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Bronco Rob 09-14-2012 06:22 AM

Three Cheers For Wesley Woodyard
 
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Instead of talking about it (joemays) Dubya squared is being about it!



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Kaylore 09-14-2012 06:31 AM

He can't cover (strangely) but he was beasting it up against the run. All the linebackers were for the most part.

TheReverend 09-14-2012 06:34 AM

Love me some Woodyard, but let's take these websites with a grain of salt...

PFF had a mega boner over Jamarcus Webb in week 1 as well and were pretty horrid with your evaluations last season.

Not sayin, just sayin.

CEH 09-14-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3666832)
He can't cover (strangely) but he was beasting it up against the run. All the linebackers were for the most part.

Well to be honest this is a good thing to stop the run first and foremost
if you can't stop the run you can't do anything creative on defense
If teams want to throw the ball against Denver I'm all for it cause we can match any team except most teams can't go 80 yards in 2 plays or put 3 80 yards drives up back to back

GreatBronco16 09-14-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3666832)
He can't cover (strangely) but he was beasting it up against the run. All the linebackers were for the most part.

Well it's kinda like pick your poison. Do you want them to do better against the run or the pass? Cause they can't do both equally well.

fontaine 09-14-2012 07:26 AM

Woodyard couldn't cover, had problems bringing down Big Ben, lost contain on the outside a few times, but yeah apart from that he tackled well.

eddie mac 09-14-2012 07:49 AM

someone said 11 tackles were on the one play, he missed the first 10.LOL

Kaylore 09-14-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatBronco16 (Post 3666878)
Well it's kinda like pick your poison. Do you want them to do better against the run or the pass? Cause they can't do both equally well.

It's just odd that he is small, athletic and yet plays the run better than the pass. I mean this is a guy many thought would play safety coming out of college.

socalorado 09-14-2012 08:08 AM

I am just glad hes on DEN.

lonestar 09-14-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3666832)
He can't cover (strangely) but he was beasting it up against the run. All the linebackers were for the most part.

I find it strange also since he was a safety in college before moving to LB because of an injury to one of the starting LB's

lonestar 09-14-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fontaine (Post 3666888)
Woodyard couldn't cover, had problems bringing down Big Ben, lost contain on the outside a few times, but yeah apart from that he tackled well.

like 98% of the defenders in the NFL..

bronco militia 09-14-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar (Post 3667001)
I find it strange also since he was a safety in college before moving to LB because of an injury to one of the starting LB's

this may come as a surprise, but there's probably a better reason why he's not a safety anymore

enjolras 09-14-2012 09:02 AM

He had perhaps the worst missed tackle of the day. Ben was flushed to his right and Woodyard and nothing but turf between him and the QB. He literally went running right by him, and Ben ended up converting a third down with about a 30 yard pass down to the Broncos 10 yard line or so. I believe that play led to a touchdown a couple fo plays later.

Inkana7 09-14-2012 09:12 AM

He looks bigger this year. That may have something to do with it.

On another note, does anyone remember the game against Carolina when Shanny started him at safety? Watching that idea collapse into disaster sure was fun.

09-15-2012 04:54 AM

I don't think dj is coming back, Woodyard will lead the te in tackles

s0phr0syne 09-15-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7 (Post 3667013)
He looks bigger this year. That may have something to do with it.

On another note, does anyone remember the game against Carolina when Shanny started him at safety? Watching that idea collapse into disaster sure was fun.


hahah, I was just reflecting on the Jets game where Shanny trotted out Woodyard and Josh Barrett at safety! Hillis unleashed! Ah, the memories!

boppool 09-15-2012 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim (Post 3667610)
I don't think dj is coming back, Woodyard will lead the te in tackles

If we wanted to dump DJ, they would've done it before the season. He'll be back as soon as his suspension is over. Woody is too big of a liability against the pass, he can't be an everydown LB.

TheReverend 09-15-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7 (Post 3667013)
He looks bigger this year. That may have something to do with it.

On another note, does anyone remember the game against Carolina when Shanny started him at safety? Watching that idea collapse into disaster sure was fun.

He was a fourth linebacker. They tried a 4-4 that game to try and stem the major run issues we'd been having.

But inaccurately regurgitating information outside of context is pretty cool too.

09-15-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3666923)
It's just odd that he is small, athletic and yet plays the run better than the pass. I mean this is a guy many thought would play safety coming out of college.

People need to give it more time. His pass defense might improve, especially since he wont always be playing against a team whose QB doesnt buy extra time so routinely. Conversely, there might also be games where he struggles against the run bringing his % down some.

09-15-2012 09:48 AM

BTW, I thought that was intersting analysis.

Some things I found interesting:

> Griffin III has the highest accuracy rating, even though it's only one game.

> I thought Locker being on the list was interesting given that a lot was made out of his completion % in college. Granted it's only one game.

> Von Miller was on the list as being an efficient pass rusher. Confirmed what we would have guessed. His thumb injury last year sealed our fate. He had 2 against Big Ben. He might have 20+ this year. If he and Doom get it going, Im going to cringe at the Freeney-Mathis comparisons.

>I think I counted 4 Broncos on those lists, which is good.

razorwire77 09-15-2012 10:12 AM

I like WW. I think he makes an excellent situational depth LB'er, special teamer, etc. But for a fast, athletic, player he absolutely sucks in coverage and it's a passing league.

That One Guy 09-15-2012 12:06 PM

Let's not forget there was that article about Champ telling everyone to just stop the run and the corners would stop the pass. If the team really took that to heart, they could've been playing run 1st, pass 2nd. Not sure that it should've had that much impact but they did what Champ challenged them to do.

Cito Pelon 09-15-2012 04:07 PM

Dude led the team in tackles in 2011 IIRC, and is currently the tackle boss in 2012. He doesn't backpedal and get some PD's or INT's, but he tackles. DJ Williams was right up there with Woodyard as the leading tackler in 2011. Too bad one of those two don't get the PD's and INT's, sure would be nice to see a Bronco LB get some INT's. Been a looooong time since we've seen that.

ZONA 09-15-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore (Post 3666923)
It's just odd that he is small, athletic and yet plays the run better than the pass. I mean this is a guy many thought would play safety coming out of college.

He's not ever going to be a safety, he just can't cover good enough for that. He's not a great LB either. He's bench material as far as that goes. He is good at ST's and I think that's how he stays in the league. Good ST's and as a back up LB.

With the off the field problems from DJ, Woodyard and Mays not being that great, Irving not showing much still, how can we not draft at 2 LB's in the draft next year. I doubt we find a gem like Miller again, partially because we will be picking last next year (:strong:) but I'm hoping we can find a nice solid guy in the middle with our 1st or 2nd pick.

2013 Draft:

1) MLB
2) DT
3) OL
4) Safety
5) CB
6) DT/LB

ZONA 09-15-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by boppool (Post 3667624)
If we wanted to dump DJ, they would've done it before the season. He'll be back as soon as his suspension is over. Woody is too big of a liability against the pass, he can't be an everydown LB.

I just don't get how some people can't get this fact through their thick skull. Woodyard will not be the starter once DJ comes back people. Just deal with it.


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