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pricejj 08-21-2012 06:41 PM

The Death Star Begins to Crumble...
 
1. Patriots cut Fanene, after having just given him a $3.85M signing bonus months ago - This is significant, because it leaves them thin at DE. Chandler Jones hasn't shown much in the preseason, and relied on his arm length to overpower OT's in his brief college career. He won't be able to do that against NFL OT's who have arm's just as long as his (Clady's arms are longer). Their starting LDE is Rob Ninkovich (who had his way with Franklin in the playoffs), but is undersized, and questionable how well he'll play as a full-time 4-3 DE.

2. Patriots OT's (especially LT Solder) getting ragdolled in the preseason - Some of you may know that Patriots LT Matt Light retired in the offseason, leaving Nate Solder to take over at LT in 2012. So far, the results have been outstanding...for opposing Defenses. A Solder breakdown led to a big hit on Brady and a fumble in the 1st preseason game. RT Sebastian Vollmer is still recovering from a back injury sustained last year, and hasn't played. He was visibly in pain at the start of training camp. Marcus Cannon has slow feet and won't work at RT.

3. Patriots RG Brian Waters may have retired - We won't know until the weekend after the last preseason game, but if the 35 year old, Waters hasn't returned from Waxahachie, TX, by then...he ain't coming back. Nobody knows except the Patriots what's going on, and they aren't telling anyone, but consider this: their starting Center from 2011 (Dan Connolly) has been practicing solely at RG all training camp long, while the team looks for a replacement for Connolly at Center. 4 players took snaps at Center during the Patriots 2nd preseason game, Monday Night.

4. The Return of Hoodie Jr. - We all know too well what this means: A crappy running game, and bubble-screens galore. The Patriots exhibited both during their loss to the Eagles last night. This ain't 2007, and B. Lloyd ain't Randy Moss.

Worst of wishes, cheating Patriots...see ya Oct. 7, Brady, if you make it that far...

enjolras 08-21-2012 06:47 PM

Do they still have Tom Brady?

They'll be fine.

Bacchus 08-21-2012 06:55 PM

You know any team with weak OTs is not gonna want to play Dnever.

55CrushEm 08-21-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3644955)
1. Patriots cut Fanene, after having just given him a $3.85M signing bonus months ago - This is significant, because it leaves them thin at DE. Chandler Jones hasn't shown much in the preseason, and relied on his arm length to overpower OT's in his brief college career. He won't be able to do that against NFL OT's who have arm's just as long as his (Clady's arms are longer). Their starting LDE is Rob Ninkovich (who had his way with Franklin in the playoffs), but is undersized, and questionable how well he'll play as a full-time 4-3 DE.

Isn't that Doom's best asset? His arm length? Just sayin'......also, I heard that Jones had a pretty big first preseason game. I think he'll be decent.

DBroncos4life 08-21-2012 07:01 PM

Your love for everything about the Pats crazy. LOL

I told you Solder wasn't a elite tackle like you claimed and that the D was in trouble with out Anderson and Carter. You can't replace 20.5 sacks that easy with two rookies. Still I think Carter will be back. Everything I have seen about Carter says he is looking to return to the Pats.

pricejj 08-21-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 55CrushEm (Post 3644980)
Isn't that Doom's best asset? His arm length? Just sayin'......also, I heard that Jones had a pretty big first preseason game. I think he'll be decent.

Doom's arms are only 32" long...Doom's best asset is 1. His leverage 2. His freaky moves.

Jones ain't got no moves...and only had 1 tackle with 1 assist in game 1. yawn

pricejj 08-21-2012 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life (Post 3644986)
Your love for everything about the Pats crazy. LOL

I told you Solder wasn't a elite tackle like you claimed and that the D was in trouble with out Anderson and Carter. You can't replace 20.5 sacks that easy with two rookies. Still I think Carter will be back. Everything I have seen about Carter says he is looking to return to the Pats.

Oh, forgot to add:

Andre Carter worked out with the Raiders today...

Tombstone RJ 08-21-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3644955)
1. Patriots cut Fanene, after having just given him a $3.85M signing bonus months ago - This is significant, because it leaves them thin at DE. Chandler Jones hasn't shown much in the preseason, and relied on his arm length to overpower OT's in his brief college career. He won't be able to do that against NFL OT's who have arm's just as long as his (Clady's arms are longer). Their starting LDE is Rob Ninkovich (who had his way with Franklin in the playoffs), but is undersized, and questionable how well he'll play as a full-time 4-3 DE.

2. Patriots OT's (especially LT Solder) getting ragdolled in the preseason - Some of you may know that Patriots LT Matt Light retired in the offseason, leaving Nate Solder to take over at LT in 2012. So far, the results have been outstanding...for opposing Defenses. A Solder breakdown led to a big hit on Brady and a fumble in the 1st preseason game. RT Sebastian Vollmer is still recovering from a back injury sustained last year, and hasn't played. He was visibly in pain at the start of training camp. Marcus Cannon has slow feet and won't work at RT.

3. Patriots RG Brian Waters may have retired - We won't know until the weekend after the last preseason game, but if the 35 year old, Waters hasn't returned from Waxahachie, TX, by then...he ain't coming back. Nobody knows except the Patriots what's going on, and they aren't telling anyone, but consider this: their starting Center from 2011 (Dan Connolly) has been practicing solely at RG all training camp long, while the team looks for a replacement for Connolly at Center. 4 players took snaps at Center during the Patriots 2nd preseason game, Monday Night.

4. The Return of Hoodie Jr. - We all know too well what this means: A crappy running game, and bubble-screens galore. The Patriots exhibited both during their loss to the Eagles last night. This ain't 2007, and B. Lloyd ain't Randy Moss.

Worst of wishes, cheating Patriots...see ya Oct. 7, Brady, if you make it that far...

:egbgb:

if Tom Brady is rushed, hurried and sacked so as to lose his ability to be an effective QB, that is just fine with me, especially if they can't run the ball. Their number 1 running back is Veneer.

hambone13 08-21-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3644988)
Doom's arms are only 32" long...Doom's best asset is 1. His leverage 2. His freaky moves.

Jones ain't got no moves...and only had 1 tackle with 1 assist in game 1. yawn

Doom's arms are the equivalent proportions to a man of 6'7". It's not the length that's significant, its how long they are for his height. It's freakish. That's a significant reason he can create such great leverage.

yerner 08-21-2012 07:38 PM

What are you babbling about? They are head over heals up in Boston with Chandler Jones in practice. They talk about his progress every day on every radio show and every coach interview.

Jetmeck 08-21-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3644955)
1. Patriots cut Fanene, after having just given him a $3.85M signing bonus months ago - This is significant, because it leaves them thin at DE. Chandler Jones hasn't shown much in the preseason, and relied on his arm length to overpower OT's in his brief college career. He won't be able to do that against NFL OT's who have arm's just as long as his (Clady's arms are longer). Their starting LDE is Rob Ninkovich (who had his way with Franklin in the playoffs), but is undersized, and questionable how well he'll play as a full-time 4-3 DE.

2. Patriots OT's (especially LT Solder) getting ragdolled in the preseason - Some of you may know that Patriots LT Matt Light retired in the offseason, leaving Nate Solder to take over at LT in 2012. So far, the results have been outstanding...for opposing Defenses. A Solder breakdown led to a big hit on Brady and a fumble in the 1st preseason game. RT Sebastian Vollmer is still recovering from a back injury sustained last year, and hasn't played. He was visibly in pain at the start of training camp. Marcus Cannon has slow feet and won't work at RT.

3. Patriots RG Brian Waters may have retired - We won't know until the weekend after the last preseason game, but if the 35 year old, Waters hasn't returned from Waxahachie, TX, by then...he ain't coming back. Nobody knows except the Patriots what's going on, and they aren't telling anyone, but consider this: their starting Center from 2011 (Dan Connolly) has been practicing solely at RG all training camp long, while the team looks for a replacement for Connolly at Center. 4 players took snaps at Center during the Patriots 2nd preseason game, Monday Night.

4. The Return of Hoodie Jr. - We all know too well what this means: A crappy running game, and bubble-screens galore. The Patriots exhibited both during their loss to the Eagles last night. This ain't 2007, and B. Lloyd ain't Randy Moss.

Worst of wishes, cheating Patriots...see ya Oct. 7, Brady, if you make it that far...

good stuff...........hope this situation gets worse for them.

Doom and Von should break him in two.

Someone insert gratuitous clip of Doom decleating Brady last year..........................please

Broncobiv 08-21-2012 07:45 PM

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/829219/bradypwn.gif

pricejj 08-21-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerner (Post 3645035)
What are you babbling about? They are head over heals up in Boston with Chandler Jones in practice. They talk about his progress every day on every radio show and every coach interview.

I do believe it's all hype. Watch his college tape, he's always the last one off the line, he has slow straight-line speed, he's cocky, has no moves, he's injury prone, and he's weak.

He's got long arms, a fast 3-cone, and he's tall. That don't make him JPP. Try again Belicheat, your latest imitation ain't getting past Clady.

Jetmeck 08-21-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broncobiv (Post 3645045)

yeah Baby...........

broncosteven 08-21-2012 07:56 PM

I am waiting to see Brady's reaction when he is told to throw it to whomever his LT is.

That ought to piss Gissell off!

razorwire77 08-21-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjolras (Post 3644963)
Do they still have Tom Brady?

They'll be fine.

/thread

DBroncos4life 08-21-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3645053)
I do believe it's all hype. Watch his college tape, he's always the last one off the line, he has slow straight-line speed, he's cocky, has no moves, he's injury prone, and he's weak.

He's got long arms, a fast 3-cone, and he's tall. That don't make him JPP. Try again Belicheat, your latest imitation ain't getting past Clady.

Where do you get all this college game tapes at for all these players you scout?

pricejj 08-21-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life (Post 3645110)
Where do you get all this college game tapes at for all these players you scout?

...this little place I found on the interwebz. If I told you, you would tell your friends, pretty soon it would be getting 4 billion hits per day.

NUB 08-22-2012 04:09 AM

Won't be the first time the Patriots have had glaring weaknesses.

Belichick will probably find a way to work around them per usual.

bowtown 08-22-2012 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life (Post 3645110)
Where do you get all this college game tapes at for all these players you scout?

pricejjsimagination.net

canadianbroncosfan 08-22-2012 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowtown (Post 3645180)
pricejjsimagination.net

LOL

And as for the original post, I think the third week in August is a little early to be writing off the Pats.

Bmore Manning 08-22-2012 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3645123)
...this little place I found on the interwebz. If I told you, you would tell your friends, pretty soon it would be getting 4 billion hits per day.

PM me that site.
And NE loves them some Chandler Jones and Hightower..

canadianbroncosfan 08-22-2012 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricejj (Post 3645123)
...this little place I found on the interwebz. If I told you, you would tell your friends, pretty soon it would be getting 4 billion hits per day.

Attention RhymesayersDU, Attention RhymesayersDU

2KBack 08-22-2012 06:28 AM

Pretty sure we are the last team that needs to be talking **** about NE at the moment. Unless we've suddenly forgotten 41-23 and 45-10.

Let's talk smack when we can hold them under 40 points

RhymesayersDU 08-22-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowtown (Post 3645180)
pricejjsimagination.net

No, the guy has no imagination. He hasn't had an original thought since the 80's. He's just got to cover up his copy/paste skills more carefully now.


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