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Bronco Rob 04-06-2012 03:22 AM

Free Agency Grades: AFC West
 
Free Agency Grades: AFC West



Written By: Nate Bouda April 5, 2012




Denver Broncos

Additions: QB Peyton Manning, CB Tracy Porter, TE Joel Dreessen, TE Jacob Tamme, LB Joe Mays (R), K Matt Prater (F), QB Caleb Hanie, WR Andre Caldwell, S Mike Adams

Subtractions: DT Brodrick Bunkley, QB Tim Tebow (T), WR Eddie Royal

Here we get to talk a little bit about Peyton Manning. Itís more than apparent that adding Manning would allow them to get out from under Tebowmania circus, but they also added a dynamic player that has the ability to make up for a number of the teamsí offensive deficiencies, which was evident by the Colts terrible 2011 season without him. Manningís health will ultimately dictate the success of this move, but I canít say that it really hurt the team. Signing both Joel Dreessen and TE Jacob Tamme was a very savvy move on the part of the Broncos. Both of them are underrated talents that just happen to be good at receiving and blocking and they also bring some versatility to Denverís offense. I really donít like the additions of Tracy Porter, Andre Caldwell and Caleb Hanie though. Porter has bad cover skills, but hopefully that will be mitigated by the play of Champ Bailey. God forbid Hanie sees any action next season and Caldwell was rated #111 out #115 receivers last year by Pro Football Focus. S Mike Adams could end up being a good pickup for their secondary

Getting a fourth-round draft pick in return for Tim Tebow is acceptable. Losing Brodrick Bunkley, despite the fact that DT was already a need with him, really hurts. Bunkley is solid player that should really help out the Saints. I canít see how the Broncos will be able to pass on DT at #25, especially if Michael Brockers is available.


A-



Kansas City Chiefs

Additions: WR Dwayne Bowe (F), OT Eric Winston, RB Peyton Hillis, CB Stanford Routt, TE Kevin Boss, LB Jovan Belcher (R), Brady Quinn

Subtractions: CB Brandon Carr, QB Kyle Orton

The Kansas City Chiefs entered offseason with two obvious players that they had to address in Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Carr, but even before the start of the free agency period, they signed CB Stanford Routt.

Kansas City maintained that they wanted to keep Carr despite the addition of Routt, but they never made a strong effort keep him. Carr is younger and has better upside, but Routt is definitely a serviceable player in his own right. Instead of committing to a five-year, $50.1 million contract like the Cowboys did, they got Routt for a reasonable three-year, $18 million contract that includes $6 million guaranteed. If Routt can limit the penalties in the coming yearís heíll be a great addition. Franchising Bowe is a no-brainer as heís by far their best receiving option, and his loss would have placed a lot of pressure on Jonathan Baldwin and Steve Breaston. Re-signing him will still be an issue, but at least they have some time to work with. Eric Winston qualifies as one of my favorite moves of the offseason. Thereís no way that the Texans were comfortable releasing him, and it just so happens that he fits one of the Chiefs biggest needs. Winston has the ability to be a Top 10 OT in the league and it only cost them $22 million for four-years. Peyton Hillis and Kevin Boss are decent moves but only because they limited their financial obligations to both players.

Keeping Kyle Orton would have been great because they would have had a solid backup QB in case something happened to Matt Cassel. Brady Quinn is largely unproven and the Chiefs know that, which is why rumors keep circulating that their considering drafting another QB. Once again, you donít want to lose a young CB like Carr, but keeping him was going to be very pricey. I canít blame them for finding a more reasonable option.

A-



San Diego Chargers

Additions: WR Robert Meachem, OT Jared Gaither (R), C Nick Hardwick (R), LB Jarret Johnson, WR Eddie Royal, QB Charlie Whitehurst, WR Roscoe Parrish, DE Luis Castillo (R), LeíRon McClain

Subtractions: WR Vincent Jackson, OT Marcus McNeill, RB Mike Tolbert, QB Billy Volek, S Steve Gregory

While Vincent Jackson has been great player for the Chargers the last few years, he may not be as big of a loss as it my seem initially. Jacksonís an incredible deep-threat, but he really needs to work on his route-running. Robert Meachem, on the other hand, is a well rounded receiver thatís a decent blocker and should be consistent receiving option for Phillip Rivers. I canít say that heíll be the game-changer that Jackson was at times, but I really donít him seem being that bad in the Chargers offense. San Diego was able to retain OT Jared Gaither and C Nick Hardwick which should help to stabilize their unit a bit. If the San Diego can use Jarret Johnson like the Ravens have in yearís past, then he should be solid addition. Johnson will be 31 at the start of the 2012 season, but provides plenty of versatility to a poor defensive front-seven. It will be interesting to see if either Eddie Royal or Roscoe Parrish can have an impact in the teamsí offense next season.

As Iíve already mentioned, losing Jackson changes their offense a bit, but not being on the hook for the $55 million that the Buccaneers gave him could be beneficial assuming that A.J. Smith is able to add some much needed talent to their offensive line, and defense. They seem to be willing to use LeíRon McClain at RB, much the same way that they used Mike Tolbert last season. Whether or not heíll be as effective remains to be seen. He almost ran for a 1000 yards years ago, but he hasnít seen a lot of carries since. Iím not sure Charlie Whitehurst is much of an improvement over Billy Volek, but he never played anyways.

C+



Oakland Raiders

Additions: S Tyvon Branch (F), CB Ron Bartell, CB Shawntae Spencer, G Mike Brisiel, G Cooper Carlisle (R), OT Khalif Barnes (R)

Subtractions: LB Kamerion Wimbley, CB Stanford Routt, RB Michael Bush, DT John Henderson, QB Jason Campbell, TE Kevin Boss, C Samson Satele, DE Trevor Scott

All of the Raiders decisions were actually very logical, but itís hard to give a team a good grade when they lose as much talent as they have so far.

Tyvon Branch has been the top priority of their offseason and recent reports have mentioned that theyíre currently working on a long-term agreement with him. He could end up being a game-changing talent but still needs some time to develop. Ron Bartell and Shawntae Spencer are a far cry from Nnamdi Asomugha and Stanford Routt, but hopefully they can give them at least one serviceable year. Cooper Carlisle and Khalif Barnes arenít very, but Mike Brisiel was a good addition for them.

Itís really amazing to see just how bad things were for the Raiders in terms of their financial situation. Itís almost unimaginable to think that a team would cut Kamerion Wimbley and Stanford Routt one year after they signed both of them to long-term deals, but thatís exactly what they were forced to do. Neither player is going to be easily replaced, especially when you consider that the Raiders have basically no draft picks to work with this year. Thankfully, they got a 3rd rounder for Nnamdi. The Bears signed both Michael Bush and Jason Campbell, and the Raiders responded by trading for Mike Goodson, who could actually see a decent amount of playing time next season. Kevin Boss wasnít outstanding but his replacement, Brandon Myers, is hardly an inspiring option for them.

The good news is that can now begin the process of building a sustainable franchise, even though thatís probably going to take a number of years.

D-



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eddie mac 04-06-2012 03:57 AM

A- for signing Winston/Routt and losing Carr???

Who the hell writes this ****e???

Bronco Rob 04-06-2012 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac (Post 3550320)
A- for signing Winston/Routt and losing Carr???

Who the hell writes this ****e???



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TonyR 04-06-2012 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac (Post 3550320)
A- for signing Winston/Routt and losing Carr???

Look at the $ differential between Carr and Routt though. I understand that Carr is the better player but when you factor in that they got Routt for about 1/3 the $ it's not all that bad.

delany 04-06-2012 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyR (Post 3550362)
Look at the $ differential between Carr and Routt though. I understand that Carr is the better player but when you factor in that they got Routt for about 1/3 the $ it's not all that bad.

Gotta save that coin for Cassell!

Bronco Rob 04-06-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delany (Post 3550363)
Gotta save that coin for Cassell!



I'm predicting that the Kansas City Chiefs are stuck with Matt Cassel to do his bloated and undeserved contract that Scott Pioli bestowed upon him, and Clark Hunt is too cheap to eat it.

2011 - 12,250,000
2012 - 5,250,000
2013 - 7,500,000
2014 - 9,000,000



:afro:

Play2win 04-06-2012 07:11 AM

The chiefs signed brady quinn, thats
hilarious... I had no idea... Hilarious!

Dedhed 04-06-2012 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob (Post 3550367)
2011 - 12,250,000
2012 - 5,250,000
2013 - 7,500,000
2014 - 9,000,000

Wow. Those are crazy stupid numbers for a candy boy like Cassel.

Dedhed 04-06-2012 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac (Post 3550320)
A- for signing Winston/Routt and losing Carr???

Who the hell writes this ****e???

I'm wondering how Dwayne Bowe counts as an addition.

TonyR 04-06-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedhed (Post 3550386)
I'm wondering how Dwayne Bowe counts as an addition.

I think for all teams they're including the re-signing of the team's own FA's.

boltaneer 04-06-2012 11:23 AM

His grades make no sense.

He basically endorses all of the Chargers moves but gives them a C+.

eddie mac 04-06-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyR (Post 3550362)
Look at the $ differential between Carr and Routt though. I understand that Carr is the better player but when you factor in that they got Routt for about 1/3 the $ it's not all that bad.

Routt's worse than Goodman as Manning will show this season.

Archer81 04-06-2012 02:35 PM

Little early to grade free agency, isnt it?


:Broncos:

TheReverend 04-06-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac (Post 3550767)
Routt's worse than Goodman as Manning will show this season.

Let's not exaggerate TOO much

Bob's your Information Minister 04-06-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob (Post 3550367)
I'm predicting that the Kansas City Chiefs are stuck with Matt Cassel to do his bloated and undeserved contract that Scott Pioli bestowed upon him, and Clark Hunt is too cheap to eat it.

2011 - 12,250,000
2012 - 5,250,000
2013 - 7,500,000
2014 - 9,000,000



:afro:

We can cut him, today, and owe him nothing.

Unfortunately our GM is a massive buffoon.

Gcver2ver3 04-06-2012 05:31 PM

is this a closet (or non closet) chiefs fan or something?...

the chiefs struck out on all the available QB options and they get the same grade as a team that made the biggest free agent acquistion in nfl history?...

they lost a top 5 calibur corner but i guess that doesnt matter...

he criticizes Denver for adding Caleb Hanie, but isnt' equally critical of chiefs adding brady quinn?...

dwayne bowe counts as an addition?...

whoever wroote this must reside in the chiefsplanet lounge... thats the only logical explanation...

Lestat 04-06-2012 06:45 PM

this guy has a screw lose or something. grades make no sense.

Captain 'Dre 04-06-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boltaneer (Post 3550607)
His grades make no sense.

He basically endorses all of the Chargers moves but gives them a C+.

From the looks of it, the author is a Chiefs fan. :)

Captain 'Dre 04-06-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gcver2ver3 (Post 3550888)
is this a closet (or non closet) chiefs fan or something?...

the chiefs struck out on all the available QB options and they get the same grade as a team that made the biggest free agent acquistion in nfl history?...

they lost a top 5 calibur corner but i guess that doesnt matter...

he criticizes Denver for adding Caleb Hanie, but isnt' equally critical of chiefs adding brady quinn?...

dwayne bowe counts as an addition?...

whoever wroote this must reside in the chiefsplanet lounge... thats the only logical explanation...

Even morons can be sports urinalysts. :)

04-07-2012 12:33 AM

The Chiefs have had a good off season.

04-07-2012 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob (Post 3550367)
I'm predicting that the Kansas City Chiefs are stuck with Matt Cassel to do his bloated and undeserved contract that Scott Pioli bestowed upon him, and Clark Hunt is too cheap to eat it.

2011 - 12,250,000
2012 - 5,250,000
2013 - 7,500,000
2014 - 9,000,000



:afro:

Wow no wonder they had to downgrade Carr.

400HZ 04-07-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boltaneer (Post 3550607)
His grades make no sense.

He basically endorses all of the Chargers moves but gives them a C+.

Probably taking into account losing a pro bowler while getting nothing in return. Again.

TheReverend 04-07-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 400HZ (Post 3551237)
Probably taking into account losing a pro bowler while getting nothing in return. Again.

His contract size should net you guys a 3rd round comp at least

Boltjolt 04-07-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 400HZ (Post 3551237)
Probably taking into account losing a pro bowler while getting nothing in return. Again.

True, but i did afford us being able to get more players than just keeping one. Meachem is going to do well for us. Remember when we traded John Jeferson and acquired Wes Chandler to replace him? Chandler went on to greatness and Jefferson was never the same.
Not saying VJ wont be good but he wont be as good with Tampa and Meachem will have bigger numbers with us than he had in New Orleans.

Im also thinking that writer thought losing McNeill was a big deal but Gaither was a stone wall for us and McNeill wasnt playing well and is damaged goods who is still out there in FA'cy.

Crushaholic 04-07-2012 07:39 PM

Losing Kyle Orton (as a backup), and signing Quinn is a downgrade for the Chiefs.


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