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09-30-2011 07:57 AM

Blocking a Field Goal at the Posts
 
I realize this is stale content, given that it happened a month ago, but it's been bugging me ever since it happened and I can't find anything to set it straight.

When Janikowski kicked that long FG in week 1 @ Denver, it cleared the lower crossbar by around 12 to 18 inches. My question is:

Is it legal for the defensive team put a player with mad hops in the end zone to try and "goal tend" the kick when there is a chance that the ball will be coming in low enough to reach? Not sure what the rule allows - thought I'd ask the OM rules committee about that . . .

TIA

BroncsCheer

09-30-2011 07:58 AM

Blocking a Field Goal at the Posts
 
I realize this is stale content, given that it happened a month ago, but it's been bugging me ever since it happened and I can't find anything to set it straight.

When Janikowski kicked that long FG in week 1 @ Denver, it cleared the crossbar by around 12 to 18 inches. My question is:

Is it legal for the defensive team put a player with mad hops in the end zone to try and "goal tend" the kick when there is a chance that the ball will be coming in low enough to reach? Not sure what the rule allows - thought I'd ask the OM rules committee about that . . .

TIA

BroncsCheer

09-30-2011 08:00 AM

Failed attempt to modify thread title . .

09-30-2011 08:01 AM

That's better. ...

TheReverend 09-30-2011 08:02 AM

The cross bar is ten feet high.

The best vertical jump ever in the NFL is 46"

Would need "madder hops" than exists.

/thread

TheDave 09-30-2011 08:14 AM

http://infect.c64.org/gallery/albums...-ail-stamp.gif

What the heck has happened to this place?

Oh and in B4 CrossFitGaveMeUpsGuy posts...

Deuce 09-30-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend (Post 3312351)
The cross bar is ten feet high.

The best vertical jump ever in the NFL is 46"

Would need "madder hops" than exists.

/thread

What? A basketball hoop is 10 feet tall. Football players "dunk" over the crossbar after touchdowns all the time. So it is plausible that a player could reach high enough to reach a fg attempt that barely clears the crossbar, just don't know if its legal.

Thread/?

09-30-2011 08:17 AM

Let's to the math.

Standing vert reach for 6'3" guy (like me) is 8' (96")

add vert leap (conservative) 40" = 136"

that's 16" over the crossbar - so it's not impossible. Improbable, but by no means impossible.

goldengopher1976 09-30-2011 08:19 AM

Good grief, the thread police in this place are harsh.

Seems like an interesting question, and watching Tony Gonzalez dunk over the crossbar makes me think it might be possible. Now about the rule...?

EDIT: watching Megatron catch passes makes me think that there are a few guys with the hops (and ball tracking ability) to do it.

Deuce 09-30-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncsCheer (Post 3312362)
Let's to the math.

Standing vert reach for 6'3" guy (like me) is 8' (96")

add vert leap (conservative) 40" = 136"

that's 16" over the crossbar - so it's not impossible. Improbable, but by no means impossible.

I agree, not sure what Rev was thinking. I would still like to know if this was legal, I have thought about this before as well.

TheReverend 09-30-2011 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce (Post 3312359)
What? A basketball hoop is 10 feet tall. Football players "dunk" over the crossbar after touchdowns all the time. So it is plausible that a player could reach high enough to reach a fg attempt that barely clears the crossbar, just don't know if its legal.

Thread/?

That's a running vertical. Can't really do that from behind the goal post based on it's shape alone. Could go from side to side but now you're making an impossible event even more impossible.

TheReverend 09-30-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce (Post 3312368)
I agree, not sure what Rev was thinking. I would still like to know if this was legal, I have thought about this before as well.

::)

Yeah... what was I thinking... Ha!

DrFate 09-30-2011 08:24 AM

Illegal in college

http://smartfootball.com/grab-bag/go...g-for-football

Illegal in NFL

http://www.ehow.com/about_5403961_nf...oal-rules.html

09-30-2011 08:24 AM

Players are able to return field goals. Therefore I would assume you could try and knock it down and say you were trying to catch it... but Im also assuming you would have to knock it down before it crossed the plane of the field goal posts???

alkemical 09-30-2011 08:24 AM

What if you draft a mutant ninja turtle from ***ashima that can jump that high to karate kick the football out of play during a field goal?

09-30-2011 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrFate (Post 3312373)

Now the thread is over.

Thanks DrFate

TheDave 09-30-2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkemical (Post 3312375)
What if you draft a mutant ninja turtle from ***ashima that can jump that high to karate kick the football out of play during a field goal?

Now we're getting somewhere!

What if we drafted one of those Tia Foot-Volleyball dudes?

http://www.lee-go-blog.com/wp-conten...04/takraw1.jpg

DrFate 09-30-2011 08:30 AM

It's nonsensical to think you couldn't have an NFL player who could do this. If you can dunk a basketball flat-footed, you could jump from a standing position and block a football that doinked the crossbar.

The OP deserved better than the crap he got.

alkemical 09-30-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave (Post 3312381)
Now we're getting somewhere!

What if we drafted one of those Tia Foot-Volleyball dudes?

http://www.lee-go-blog.com/wp-conten...04/takraw1.jpg

But...I like turtles more.

09-30-2011 08:30 AM

I think it is illegal.

Deuce 09-30-2011 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend (Post 3312371)
That's a running vertical. Can't really do that from behind the goal post based on it's shape alone. Could go from side to side but now you're making an impossible event even more impossible.

You do understand how a vertical is measured don't you? There are plently of nfl players that could get high enough to get a foot above the crossbar. Nice try though.

09-30-2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55 (Post 3312385)
I think it is illegal.

Thanks Genius :notworthy

Kaylore 09-30-2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave (Post 3312358)

Oh and in B4 CrossFitGaveMeUpsGuy posts...

LOL

TheDave 09-30-2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkemical (Post 3312384)
But...I like turtles more.

They're are also harder to find.

I could probably get one of the FootVolleyBallGuys for a plane ticket and a used Kia... :clown:

Cut tebow give the dude his #15 and let the fun begin.

Kaylore 09-30-2011 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55 (Post 3312385)
I think it is illegal.

It is illegal to block a kick? What are we the NBA now? What's the penalty? Goaltending?

EDIT: I just read the rules posted and apparently it is illegal batting? I guess as long as you catch it, its legal.


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