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L.A. BRONCOS FAN 11-20-2013 04:35 PM

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UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 11-23-2013 01:15 PM

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Fear the Hawk 11-23-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun (Post 3975727)

I suppose it would be futile to mention that this is pure BS. That those "cancellations" are actually people who are still able to get insurance. That calling them simply "cancellations" without elaboration is a half truth and deliberately misleading.

I thought not.

cutthemdown 11-23-2013 07:27 PM

liberals complaining statements are misleading is pretty funny. It's not misleading people that were young and healthy, with cheap insurance, are getting cancelled and forced into to higher cost plans.

Rich people got off easy Obama delayed the employer mandate and the tax on caddilac insurance plans. Those are what pays for a lot of this when the time comes in 2015/16. The problem is Obama knows they are destroyers of the economy and that even more people will then lose insurance plans. His ACA will be blowing up long after he is gone as the next president tries to pay for it and make it work.

BroncoBeavis 11-23-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lone Bolt (Post 3975779)
I suppose it would be futile to mention that this is pure BS. That those "cancellations" are actually people who are still able to get insurance. That calling them simply "cancellations" without elaboration is a half truth and deliberately misleading.

I thought not.

Yeah. Fail. By that definition nobody's insurance ever gets cancelled because they can usually get coverage somewhere else.

Fear the Hawk 11-23-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3975785)
Yeah. Fail. By that definition nobody's insurance ever gets cancelled because they can usually get coverage somewhere else.

Oh please. You know as well as I do that the BS narrative the repubs are pushing now is that millions have lost their insurance for good because of the PPACA.

I watched that immoral dishonest creep Ted Cruz promote this horseshyte on CNN.

Six months from now, if the majority of those "cancelled" find policies just as good or better on their state exchanges do you think Cruz or the rest of the hypocritical repub "leaders" will own up to it? Of course not.

Lying sleazebag f--ks.

BroncoBeavis 11-24-2013 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lone Bolt (Post 3975812)
Oh please. You know as well as I do that the BS narrative the repubs are pushing now is that millions have lost their insurance for good because of the PPACA.

I watched that immoral dishonest creep Ted Cruz promote this horseshyte on CNN.

Six months from now, if the majority of those "cancelled" find policies just as good or better on their state exchanges do you think Cruz or the rest of the hypocritical repub "leaders" will own up to it? Of course not.

Lying sleazebag f--ks.

Your chiggers would win the Lombardi every year with that kind of goalpost shifting.

From "If you like your plan you can keep it, Period" to "Well, if we outlaw your plan, I'm sure you can find something else"

And you have the nuts to call someone counting cancellations a liar. LOL

Fear the Hawk 11-24-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3975828)
Your chiggers would win the Lombardi every year with that kind of goalpost shifting.

From "If you like your plan you can keep it, Period" to "Well, if we outlaw your plan, I'm sure you can find something else"

And you have the nuts to call someone counting cancellations a liar. LOL

So when republicans deliberately distort, mislead, and give only half the truth about these "cancellations" it's not lying.

Uh huh. You keep telling yourself that.

BroncoBeavis 11-25-2013 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lone Bolt (Post 3975879)
So when republicans deliberately distort, mislead, and give only half the truth about these "cancellations" it's not lying.

Uh huh. You keep telling yourself that.

Using your definition, cancellations could basically never exist. But deep down you know that. Cheerleaders gotta cheer. Regardless of how ridiculous it makes them sound.

Fear the Hawk 11-25-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis (Post 3980361)
Using your definition, cancellations could basically never exist. But deep down you know that. Cheerleaders gotta cheer. Regardless of how ridiculous it makes them sound.

You're missing the point. By omitting certain fact the republicans are trying to push the false narrative that millions of Americans lost great insurance policies and are now permanently uninsured because of Obamacare. That's a big, fat lie no matter how you want to spin it.

BroncoBeavis 11-25-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lone Bolt (Post 3980767)
You're missing the point. By omitting certain fact the republicans are trying to push the false narrative that millions of Americans lost great insurance policies and are now permanently uninsured because of Obamacare. That's a big, fat lie no matter how you want to spin it.

"Great" is in the eye of the beholder. This much is undoubtedly true.

If left intact, Obamacare will result in many millions of people being forced into plans THEY consider to be worse than what they already had. So far as they don't ignore Obama's Choice and drop out entirely.

Ultimately, the individual's judgement is the one that counts. Obama knew this when he sold the central lie to protect the ACA's narrow passage. To squeeze it through, he had to pretend to respect the individual's choice in health care while ultimately knifing it in the back. Now that the truth is revealing itself, it's a little late in the game to start crying foul over "spin"

barryr 12-06-2013 04:22 AM

Interesting how the liberals have decided to change the subject in regards to Obamacare and talk about anything but that. Wear your farce with pride bozos.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 02-07-2014 05:36 PM

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houghtam 02-09-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun (Post 4057341)

Why are you posting this now?

Your join date was 2004.

Can you provide a link to your posting this (or anything like it) before Obama was elected, you know, much closer to when the Patriot Act was enacted?

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 02-10-2014 01:25 PM

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houghtam 02-10-2014 01:58 PM

Thought so.

Coward.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 02-11-2014 01:25 PM

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houghtam 02-11-2014 03:57 PM

LOL

Do you know what a black card can be used for? Tanning. The ACA taxes tanning salons. Planet Fitness is CHOOSING to apply this tax to all black card holders when they could easily charge a separate fee instead. Since not all black card holders use the service, Planet Fitness is essentially using the ACA as an excuse to gouge their customers. They are bringing in more money by doing this.

Try again, numb nuts!

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Requiem 02-11-2014 03:58 PM

I'll ask them about it tomorrow when I go workout.

houghtam 02-11-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 4058272)
I'll ask them about it tomorrow when I go workout.

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Nice summary right here.

cutthemdown 02-11-2014 04:25 PM

Maybe it was too much trouble to come up with new cards, or figure out who uses the tanning beds. It makes sense to just charge extra for a tax to the service offered with your membership. I doubt they are making more money. They probably just passed the tax along, just like conservatives said they would.

Tax never hits anyone harder then consumers.

houghtam 02-11-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown (Post 4058285)
Maybe it was too much trouble to come up with new cards, or figure out who uses the tanning beds. It makes sense to just charge extra for a tax to the service offered with your membership. I doubt they are making more money. They probably just passed the tax along, just like conservatives said they would.

Tax never hits anyone harder then consumers.

They are absolutely bringing in more money than the tax would cost. They are charging it to people who do not use the service. The ACA taxes tanning services, not everything that goes along with them.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun 02-21-2014 11:41 AM

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cutthemdown 02-21-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by houghtam (Post 4058293)
They are absolutely bringing in more money than the tax would cost. They are charging it to people who do not use the service. The ACA taxes tanning services, not everything that goes along with them.

Yeah but if i join a gym and dont use the pool, i still have to pay for pool maintenance and such in my membership.

Its like saying i don't watch food channel, subtrack that from my bill. Nope if food channel is part of your plan, and govt raises the tax on food channel, guess whose cable is going up?

You don't get to lower your gym membership by saying I don't use free weights, subtrack some money, i only use the stairclimber. That isn't how a gym works.

If tanning is inclluded, and a tax on tanning goes through, then guess what everyone pays for it.

If the govt said movies are a dangerous place. We pass a law saying all theaters must have an armed guard, guess what movie prices go up. Even if you say i don't want the guard to protect me, give me lower price, they will say sorry everyone pays.

Thats how it works. Welcome to the world you helped bring about. It's only going to get worst. Hell liberals have it there way you won't even be able to buy pot without a huge tax.


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