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BroncoBuff 02-14-2008 02:42 AM

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Best.Voice.Ever.


Ingenue = Best.Album.Ever. (tie)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 02-14-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff (Post 1884137)

Best.Voice.Ever.


Ingenue = Best.Album.Ever. (tie)

???

(Reminder to self: "In matters of taste, there is no dispute.")

;)

BroncoBuff 02-14-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN (Post 1884977)
???

(Reminder to self: "In matters of taste, there is no dispute.")

;)

Are you sure you have that quote right?

I know there is a quote that goes, "reasonable men may differ in matters of taste." That is a more reasonable way to look at it, don't you think? I just cannot bring myself to be intolerant about people's musical choices .... in fact, this thread is less about music to me, and more about tolerance. We went through a couple pages there recently where I learned a few things about tolerance for what moves others, as I hope we all did.

And yes, k.d. lang's "ingenue" is as good as any album I have ever heard. Listen to "Save Me" or "Outside Myself" with an open mind. If you don't agree, fine, but at least you will have tried.

epicSocialism4tw 02-14-2008 10:08 PM

Roy Orbison is my favorite singer.

No one did melancholy melodies like Roy.

BroncoBuff 02-15-2008 03:02 AM

I really love Roy too ... Blue Angel is an all-time favorite, as is Oh Mama.


Curiously, Roy stands beside k.d. among the Top Ten vocalists of all time (Courtesy - the prestigious BroncoBuff Rating System) :thumbs:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 02-15-2008 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff (Post 1885048)
Are you sure you have that quote right?

Yep.

"In matters of taste there can be no dispute" or "De gustibus non disputandum," as the ancient Romans would have said.

The quote is from Cicero.

http://www.delphia.co.uk/dominion_latin.html

In any event, no intolerance intended, homey - I can't fathom how anyone could rate K.D. Lang so highly, but I also know it's all "in the ear of the beholder," as it were, and I'm sure a lot of my favorite things would leave you scratching your head and saying "what the I'd like to crawl in the same snuggie with is he thinking?" so it's all good. :thumbsup:

BroncoBuff 02-15-2008 03:19 AM

I doubt Cicero had the plethora of music choices we have ;D

Seriously though, check up on k.d. lang, ask your friends. She is widely - and I do mean widely - considered among the greatest of all female pop voices ... that means with the likes of Streisand, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, and for my money Benatar and Ann Wilson. You might not care for her style or her music, but there is no denying the voice. That beautiful instrument is not subject to these vagaries of taste.


I think lots of things are just imprinted, based on life experience at the time, etc. For example, Peter Frampton's 'Frampton' album - the last studio album before 'Comes Alive' - was imprinted on me at a particular period in my life. I am aware that my love of it is not widely shared, but that really shouldn't matter. If it moves you, it moves you. Lang's "Ingenue" and it's brooding moody aura came along at a similarly impressionable time for me. Unlike 'Frampton,' 'Ingenue' won Grammys and was univerally praised by critics ... but that makes no difference to my appreciation of it.

Another example shared in here, "On the Loose" by Saga, a song I've played at least 100 times the past month and still play during workouts. My adrenaline explodes with that thing, and that's a good thing. Or right now I'm practically bawling listening to Orbison's "Oh Mama," even though I have little doubt 99% of those on this board would lose their lunch over it.

Hogan11 02-15-2008 03:30 AM

I don't mind KD's voice, but I wouldn't label it as "best ever" or anything...I'll dodge debate by toting the "In matters of taste there can be no dispute" party line in keeping with the feel good vibes of the last few posts Ha!

Seriously though, wanna burn a couple of hours, go back to the beginning of this thread sometime and read it all the way through....very informative and entertaining IMHO.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 02-15-2008 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff (Post 1885325)
Seriously though, check up on k.d. lang, ask your friends. She is widely - and I do mean widely - considered among the greatest of all female pop voices ... that means with the likes of Streisand, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, and for my money Benatar and Ann Wilson. You might not care for her style or her music, but there is no denying the voice. That beautiful instrument is not subject to these vagaries of taste.

I'm familiar with her stuff - I was in a few top-40 road bands back in the early 90s that covered some of her tunes.

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff (Post 1885325)
I think lots of things are just imprinted, based on life experience at the time, etc. For example, Peter Frampton's 'Frampton' album - the last studio album before 'Comes Alive' - was imprinted on me at a particular period in my life. I am aware that my love of it is not widely shared, but that really shouldn't matter.

Frampton was one of my top five influences and musical heroes when I was a kid starting out on guitar! (Along with George Harrison, Jimmy Page and Alvin Lee.) I worshipped the guy! From The Herd to Humble Pie to his solo career, I've bought just about every record he's ever made. When I was fourteen and lived in Evergreen, CO, my favorite record was Humble Pie's "Performance: Rockin' the Fillmore." I used to wait until my folks went out, and then I'd blast it at top volume. PF is one of the most shamefully underrated rock guitarists of all time, IMO. After the success of "Comes Alive" the press started focusing too much on all the peripheral show business razzmatazz and not enough on his guitar playing, sadly. During this same period, his career was pretty much hosed by a greedy, short-sighted, and incompetent manager (Dee Anthony.)

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff (Post 1885325)
Another example shared in here, "On the Loose" by Saga, a song I've played at least 100 times the past month and still play during workouts. My adrenaline explodes with that thing, and that's a good thing.

I really dug that tune when I first saw it on MTV c. 1983. Those guys are all really accomplished musicians. I respect anyone who has really put in the time and hard work it takes to master an instrument or vocals - even if I don't care for the style.

BroncoBuff 02-15-2008 04:54 PM

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/717/66690769oc9.jpg
I want you to LOVE me
Like a Hurricane!
Frampton does "I Don't Need No Doctor" in his live set now :thumbs:
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BroncoBuff 02-15-2008 05:16 PM

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FOUR DAY CREEP



Here's another incredible Fillmore East live album released a month later ... June and July 1971
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4259/31256315by7.jpg

BroncoBuff 02-15-2008 10:09 PM

I just watched that "I Don't Need No Doctor" video, and if you pay really close attention at the very start, the screen behind him plays the original Humble Pie intro from the live album, where a giddy 19-year old Peter warbles out in an English accent, "We go 'ome oh Monday, but we wanna tell ya, we sure 'nuf had a gas this time - it's really been a gas!"

That video also include a lead vocal from the late, great Bob Mayo at 1:20 ... damn good voice!

Bronco_Beerslug 02-15-2008 10:26 PM

The incredible Peter Green and Fleetwood Mac (Jeremy Spencer)...

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And for those who don't think they have heard him before....

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L.A. BRONCOS FAN 02-15-2008 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff (Post 1886090)
I just watched that "I Don't Need No Doctor" video, and if you pay really close attention at the very start, the screen behind him plays the original Humble Pie intro from the live album, where a giddy 19-year old Peter warbles out in an English accent, "We go 'ome oh Monday, but we wanna tell ya, we sure 'nuf had a gas this time - it's really been a gas!"

That video also include a lead vocal from the late, great Bob Mayo at 1:20 ... damn good voice!

Actually, that's Steve Marriott saying "we go home on Monday..." - not Frampton.

Also, PF was born 4/22/50, so he would have been 21 when the Fillmore record was recorded.

I miss Bob Mayo! Frampton's band just hasn't been the same since he passed away.

BroncoBuff 02-16-2008 03:34 AM

Sounds like Frampton to me ...

Hogan11 02-16-2008 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug (Post 1886099)
The incredible Peter Green and Fleetwood Mac (Jeremy Spencer)

Too bad Green had to get all messed up on religion....maybe he could've saved Mac from becoming the late 70's multi-plat corportate muzak mush machine it became if he had hung around.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN 02-16-2008 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff (Post 1886268)
Sounds like Frampton to me ...

It's Marriott.

One way you can tell is by the cockney accent (listen to the way he pronounces the word "Monday" for a good example.)

(Not that I need to know this to tell the difference - Humble Pie was my favorite band when I was a teenager.)

Marriott grew up on the east end of London, and Frampton was from the middle class borough of Beckenham, Kent.

If I remember correctly, that clip that Frampton played at the start of "Doctor" in that Youtube video was also used in the Marriott memorial concert that happened a few years back.

BroncoBuff 02-17-2008 06:04 PM

I listened again, you're right.


Frampton Comes Alive!
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Hogan11 02-17-2008 08:13 PM

I always hated the weird sound from that tube mike he stuck in his mouth....to this day I cannot understand how anyone could actually like it.

Then again, I can't understand how anyone can like the sound of a sitar either, so there you go.

epicSocialism4tw 02-17-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11 (Post 1887176)
I always hated the weird sound from that tube mike he stuck in his mouth....to this day I cannot understand how anyone could actually like it.

Then again, I can't understand how anyone can like the sound of a sitar either, so there you go.

Sitar is a beautiful instrument. I'm with you on the talk box though. Pretty much a worthless 200 dollar effect if you ask me.

broncoblue 02-18-2008 04:05 AM

any you guys heard airbourne.....ac/dc ish but awsome

alkemical 02-18-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11 (Post 1887176)
I always hated the weird sound from that tube mike he stuck in his mouth....to this day I cannot understand how anyone could actually like it.

Then again, I can't understand how anyone can like the sound of a sitar either, so there you go.

I love the sitar!

Hogan11 02-18-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis (Post 1887456)
I love the sitar!

Sitar and pedal steel are like nails on a chalkboard to me.

alkemical 02-18-2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11 (Post 1887457)
Sitar and pedal steel are like nails on a chalkboard to me.


May the many arms of vishnu bonk you with a banjo... ;)

i dunno - i'm just being silly - I just like the sitar. Pedal steel has to be done..."right" -

But i've done some warping of some jazz & india-indian music on some turn tables and love it.

epicSocialism4tw 02-18-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11 (Post 1887457)
Sitar and pedal steel are like nails on a chalkboard to me.

Listen to Steve Howe of Yes play the pedal steel. The song "And You and I" has some of the coolest pedal steel Ive heard.


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