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TheReverend
09-12-2011, 11:54 PM
Congrats to kyle!

And congrats on the free 9 million bro!


(Figured I'd make a thread for the Orton knobs to beat each other off in--looking at you: HAT, TGN, errand, peacepipe, Beantown :(, yerner, etc)

Popps
09-12-2011, 11:56 PM
And here I was worried there would be a lack of threads about this.

peacepipe
09-12-2011, 11:56 PM
Congrats to kyle!

And congrats on the free 9 million bro!


(Figured I'd make a thread for the Orton knobs to beat each other off in--looking at you: HAT, TGN, errand, peacepipe, Beantown :(, yerner, etc)Oh please. I'm no orton fan. thinking tebow sucks doesn't make me a fan of orton.

bronco militia
09-12-2011, 11:57 PM
LOL

and 0-16

strafen
09-12-2011, 11:57 PM
He's 0-1 when the defense allows 23 points or less this season! :~ohyah!:

WABronco
09-12-2011, 11:57 PM
/wrists

Orange4Life
09-12-2011, 11:58 PM
Orton was terrible. But he was Kyle Orton tonight. He is what he is. Truthfully I don't blame Kyle for the loss. No one should of expected anything different. I blame the FO office for putting us in this situation. I say a big **** you to all of them!

You make us watch a QB that trips over his own left foot getting out of bed in morning when we have a guy that can run threw the wall without breaking a sweat?? It's all bull ****. I'm so frustrated!!!!!

DBroncos4life
09-12-2011, 11:58 PM
Tom Brady's 8000+ yard pace is more impressive. ;D

Broncos4Life
09-12-2011, 11:58 PM
Congrats to kyle!

And congrats on the free 9 million bro!


(Figured I'd make a thread for the Orton knobs to beat each other off in--looking at you: HAT, TGN, errand, peacepipe, Beantown :(, yerner, etc)

Hes really racking up the fantasy points man...Cuz thats what counts.....
Hes rally a great QB. This is not what he wanted tonight. he didn't want to turn the ball over twice...... Nevermind what the rest of the team did. Orton does not and will not ever inspire anyone...... He just can't do "IT".

The Joker
09-12-2011, 11:59 PM
That TD drive to get us within three right near the end was all-world.

You know had our stupid defense gotten the ball back for him then orton would have marched it down for the game winning TD like it wasnt no thang!

Boy is going to the Pro Bowl son, need to get him locked up!

underrated29
09-12-2011, 11:59 PM
Yes but he did have perfect mechanics on that interception

Dedhed
09-13-2011, 12:00 AM
Congrats to kyle!

And congrats on the free 9 million bro!


(Figured I'd make a thread for the Orton knobs to beat each other off in--looking at you: HAT, TGN, errand, peacepipe, Beantown :(, yerner, etc)

You forgot that "theelusivekyleorton" clown.

Dedhed
09-13-2011, 12:00 AM
Yes but he did have perfect mechanics on that interception

His form did look perfect when he literally dropped the ball.

Dedhed
09-13-2011, 12:01 AM
That TD drive to get us within three right near the end was all-world.

You know had our stupid defense gotten the ball back for him then orton would have marched it down for the game winning TD like it wasnt no thang!

Boy is going to the Pro Bowl son, need to get him locked up!

Not sure if serious.

HAT
09-13-2011, 12:02 AM
Denver's defense is on pace to give up 3,040 yards on the ground. Thanks for capitalizing my name Rev.

RADRHATR
09-13-2011, 12:04 AM
[QUOTE=strafen;3291141]He's 0-1 when the defense allows 23 points or less this season! :~ohyah!:[/QUOTE

Are you kidding me? Turnovers put are defense with thier backs against the wall.

Que
09-13-2011, 12:04 AM
Yes but he did have perfect mechanics on that interception

Perfect positioning in the pocket too

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:05 AM
****:

Kyle Orton
Andre Goodman
JD Walton
Zane Beadles
Orlando Franklin
Chris Kuper (sorry Kupesdad, this week he gets it)
Joe Mays
Gase
McCoy
John Fox
John Elway
Pat Bowlen

Props:

Brian Dawkins
Eric Decker
Jay Cutler
Mike Shanahan

Punisher
09-13-2011, 12:05 AM
lol!

HAT
09-13-2011, 12:05 AM
His form did look perfect when he literally dropped the ball.

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Punisher
09-13-2011, 12:06 AM
I think Pat is trying to sell the team lol

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:06 AM
Denver's defense is on pace to give up 3,040 yards on the ground. Thanks for capitalizing my name Rev.

Anytime. Anytime such a massive douche sticks that far out for being such an idiot, the details become vivid.

Like Kyle falling all over himself and throwing the ball to random locations like he was playing with a blindfold after being spun around 10 times like it was pin the tail on the... donkey :(

epicSocialism4tw
09-13-2011, 12:07 AM
It was all the OL's fault. But it wasn't the OL's fault when Tebow kept getting mauled in preseason.

When Ortie threw that pick and dropped that ball, there was clearly a player within 20 feet of him.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:07 AM
You forgot that "theelusivekyleorton" clown.

My bad

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:09 AM
It was all the OL's fault. But it wasn't the OL's fault when Tebow kept getting mauled in preseason.

When Ortie threw that pick and dropped that ball, there was clearly a player within 20 feet of him.

LOL, don't ask for consistency from idiots.

Orton gets a boo boo on a finger and "Let's ignore a 3 pick and horrid day", but Cutler's kneecap is waving in the wind in the huddle and it's "he quit on his team!"

These people are adorable.

DBroncos4life
09-13-2011, 12:20 AM
****:

Kyle Orton
Andre Goodman
JD Walton
Zane Beadles
Orlando Franklin
Chris Kuper (sorry Kupesdad, this week he gets it)
Joe Mays
Gase
McCoy
John Fox
John Elway
Pat Bowlen

Props:

Brian Dawkins
Eric Decker
Jay Cutler
Mike Shanahan

You missed Vickerson.

jutang
09-13-2011, 12:22 AM
I recently moved to Chicago and really have seen Culter play except for a few playoff games since he left Denver. I still am bitter about the fall out he had with the organization. After watching the atlanta game, Cutler consistently had less time then Orton had with the Raiders. I was impressed with the way he stood in the pocket and his improvement in his decision making. He uses his outlet options much more frequently and doesn't try and jam it in there all the time.

He still complains way too much to the refs and still has that mopey look on his face, but the guy is a hard worker at becoming a better qb.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:23 AM
You missed Vickerson.

I really didn't.

Agamemnon
09-13-2011, 12:24 AM
Oh please. I'm no orton fan. thinking tebow sucks doesn't make me a fan of orton.

It just makes you an idiot who forms opinions from nothing. Bravo.

DBroncos4life
09-13-2011, 12:25 AM
I really didn't.

So you were impressed with his personal foul that cause the Raiders to not run the clock out and kick a 63 yard FG?

Agamemnon
09-13-2011, 12:25 AM
I recently moved to Chicago and really have seen Culter play except for a few playoff games since he left Denver. I still am bitter about the fall out he had with the organization. After watching the atlanta game, Cutler consistently had less time then Orton had with the Raiders. I was impressed with the way he stood in the pocket and his improvement in his decision making. He uses his outlet options much more frequently and doesn't try and jam it in there all the time.

He still complains way too much to the refs and still has that mopey look on his face, but the guy is a hard worker at becoming a better qb.

Cutler >>>> Orton

But he's still only an average starting QB.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:28 AM
So you were impressed with his personal foul that cause the Raiders to not run the clock out and kick a 63 yard FG?

He had some good plays. He was still not "good". He also wasn't one of the abortions to cost us the game in what should have been a run away with the volume of free "personal foul" yardage and first downs handed to us.

OBF1
09-13-2011, 12:29 AM
That TD drive to get us within three right near the end was all-world.

You know had our stupid defense gotten the ball back for him then orton would have marched it down for the game winning TD like it wasnt no thang!

Boy is going to the Pro Bowl son, need to get him locked up!

I am serious... I think the drugs are in full effect now. Just say NO

DBroncos4life
09-13-2011, 12:32 AM
He had some good plays. He was still not "good". He also wasn't one of the abortions to cost us the game in what should have been a run away with the volume of free "personal foul" yardage and first downs handed to us.

His lead to them getting points.

peacepipe
09-13-2011, 12:32 AM
It just makes you an idiot who forms opinions from nothing. Bravo.

from nothing? your boy wasn't good enough to beat quinn out for back up. then again you wouldn't know with head so up his ass.

Archer81
09-13-2011, 12:32 AM
Watching Orton is sapping my will to live.

Completely uninspiring, unemotional play.


:Broncos:

Hamrob
09-13-2011, 12:33 AM
Orton Sucks. I'm not sure that anyone on this board honestly felt otherwise.

What lost this game?

Turnovers: We had 3 of them in critial moments. Had we not had just one of those 3 we might have won this game.

We lost to the faid by 45 last year. They came in this year and tried to man handle us. Our guys were somewhat surprised as to how rough they were....but, they hung in there.

Losing by 3 to a team that beat you by 45 last year...is not the end of the world. This team will wins some games.

Having said that, Kyle Orton is not the answer. I truly hop we give Tebow a chance. I think he could be the answer.

But, if we don't have the patience for Tebow....go ahead and draft Luck, Barkley or Landry...and let's get on with it!

Agamemnon
09-13-2011, 12:34 AM
from nothing? your boy wasn't good enough to beat quinn out for back up. then again you wouldn't know with head so up his ass.

Seriously dude you are a retard. Just stop.

Hamrob
09-13-2011, 12:34 AM
Does anyone wish we had Jay Cutler hear with our offensive weapons:

Lloyd
Royal
Decker
Fells
Thomas
Thomas
Could have been Schefler
Could have been Hillis

I sure do!

Archer81
09-13-2011, 12:35 AM
Orton Sucks. I'm not sure that anyone on this board honestly felt otherwise.

What lost this game?

Turnovers: We had 3 of them in critial moments. Had we not had just one of those 3 we might have won this game.

We lost to the faid by 45 last year. They came in this year and tried to man handle us. Our guys were somewhat surprised as to how rough they were....but, they hung in there.

Losing by 3 to a team that beat you by 45 last year...is not the end of the world. This team will wins some games.

Having said that, Kyle Orton is not the answer. I truly hop we give Tebow a chance. I think he could be the answer.

But, if we don't have the patience for Tebow....go ahead and draft Luck, Barkley or Landry...and let's get on with it!


Pretty much my thinking. End this nightmare for the love of God. Orton is not our guy. If it is not Tebow, go get the guy and make it happen.

:Broncos:

Broncochica
09-13-2011, 12:35 AM
I am serious... I think the drugs are in full effect now. Just say NO

Hilarious!

Agamemnon
09-13-2011, 12:35 AM
Orton Sucks. I'm not sure that anyone on this board honestly felt otherwise.

What lost this game?

Turnovers: We had 3 of them in critial moments. Had we not had just one of those 3 we might have won this game.

We lost to the faid by 45 last year. They came in this year and tried to man handle us. Our guys were somewhat surprised as to how rough they were....but, they hung in there.

Losing by 3 to a team that beat you by 45 last year...is not the end of the world. This team will wins some games.

Having said that, Kyle Orton is not the answer. I truly hop we give Tebow a chance. I think he could be the answer.

But, if we don't have the patience for Tebow....go ahead and draft Luck, Barkley or Landry...and let's get on with it!

If we draft another QB due to impatience we are well and truly doomed...

Cito Pelon
09-13-2011, 12:36 AM
Anytime. Anytime such a massive douche sticks that far out for being such an idiot, the details become vivid.

Like Kyle falling all over himself and throwing the ball to random locations like he was playing with a blindfold after being spun around 10 times like it was pin the tail on the... donkey :(

Orton didn't fall all over himself and throw to random locations. He knew exactly where he was throwing the ball. Trouble is, where Orton decides to throw the ball often doesn't result in a first down. Or, he's in the red zone and doesn't throw an INt, but he doesn't throw a TD either. The only QB on the team with potential is Tebow.

Edit: Orton threw a couple nice passes that were dropped. Short passes, sure, but right on the hands of Royal and McGahee.

LongDongJohnson
09-13-2011, 12:36 AM
I think over half the nfl is on pace for 4800 yards this year.

Archer81
09-13-2011, 12:37 AM
Does anyone wish we had Jay Cutler hear with our offensive weapons:

Lloyd
Royal
Decker
Fells
Thomas
Thomas
Could have been Schefler
Could have been Hillis

I sure do!


Wish in one hand, **** in the other. Which one fills up first?

can't look backwards.

:Broncos:

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:38 AM
His lead to them getting points.

The rest of them lead to a lot MORE points.

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 12:41 AM
Just think, at the end of the season Kyle Orton will be the best option for us to win in 2012..........according to his 2011 stats.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:42 AM
Wish in one hand, **** in the other. Which one fills up first?

can't look backwards.

:Broncos:

The **** you can't.

Our owner is a goddamn senile retard that ****ed our franchise into the ground and them came on our corpse's faces.

**** Pat Bowlen forever. Seriously.

**** him.

And then the cock bag has the ****ing NERVE to say "we're 25 million under the cap, but we hit our cash limit" while he passes on legit young franchise players in the most unique FA period of all time.

That's because of YOUR dumbass mistakes you **** bag.

peacepipe
09-13-2011, 12:43 AM
Seriously dude you are a retard. Just stop.are your feelings hurt? shedding tears cause your boy tebust can't get off of bench warming duty.

SoCalBronco
09-13-2011, 12:43 AM
The **** you can't.

Our owner is a goddamn senile retard that ****ed our franchise into the ground and them came on our corpse's faces.

**** Pat Bowlen forever. Seriously.

**** him.

And then the cock bag has the ****ing NERVE to say "we're 25 million under the cap, but we hit our cash limit" while he passes on legit young franchise players in the most unique FA period of all time.

That's because of YOUR dumbass mistakes you **** bag.

FTW

:thumbsup:

Archer81
09-13-2011, 12:44 AM
Just think, at the end of the season Kyle Orton will be the best option for us to win in 2012..........according to his 2011 stats.


No matter how this season goes, people will be upset when Orton is not resigned.They will complain and cry and use his 2011 and 2010 and 2009 stats to "prove" he is the guy. If we only a. develop the best offensive line ever and b. develop the best defense ever.


:Broncos:

DBroncos4life
09-13-2011, 12:45 AM
The rest of them lead to a lot MORE points.

And they all get their share of the blame in my book. I just don't get why Vickerson gets a pass here.

RunSilentRunDeep
09-13-2011, 12:46 AM
Everyone relax. The most important thing to remember is Orton looked great in the red penny against the scout team Raiders this past week.

Hamrob
09-13-2011, 12:46 AM
If we draft another QB due to impatience we are well and truly doomed...No we're not, we're just not tough enough to believe in a kid..........who we should believe in.

Why?

Because he was maybe the best College football player ever.
Because he has moe heart than just about anyone in the NFL
Because his preseason stats have proven he's capable


You have to be tough to tackle the national media who all like to hate on Tebow. When you're a new Exec like Elway and you have a lamb of a GM in Xanders...it's tough. Your dilemma are the fans. That's why they have tried the media campaign to discourage fans against Tebow. Their problem is that Orton is so poor, that they're campaign has failed.

Their only options are to play Tebow (swim or sink), which I think they will later this season...or to draft a guy next year.

I love Elway, I grew up with him. I met him when I was a ball boy at Broncos training camp in Greeley in 86-87 and had him sign several cards for me as a fan in 84-85. There can be no better (to me). John Elway started for 5 Super Bowl teams (an NFL Record)...he is a God!

But, I don't think Elway wants to risk it with Tebow. He's just trying to find a reason to see Tebow to the door and draft a QB. The only exception is, if Tebow tears it up when he plays later this season. The odds are definitely against him.

And so is John Elway!

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:47 AM
And they all get their share of the blame in my book. I just don't get why Vickerson gets a pass here.

15 yards.

He had plenty of offsetting good plays.

The others were all embarrassing abortions that I wouldnt even blink if they got flat out cut. Regardless of the investment.

Cito Pelon
09-13-2011, 12:49 AM
I don't like to bag on the starting QB, but that was failure. Decker gets the team back into the game, and next thing you know is an INT, followed by the infamous fumble. The D actually kept the team in the game despite all the turnovers, a 63-yd FG, and the ineptitude of Oaklands passing O. Time to regroup, not too many stellar performances this game. Champ, Dawkins, Decker, Fells, maybe Woodyard, that was about it for stellar performances.

DBroncos4life
09-13-2011, 12:49 AM
15 yards.

He had plenty of offsetting good plays.

The others were all embarrassing abortions that I wouldnt even blink if they got flat out cut. Regardless of the investment.

The Raiders were just going to run the clock out without that play. Instead they got three cheap points and won by three points.

Archer81
09-13-2011, 12:51 AM
The Raiders were just going to run the clock out without that play. Instead they got three cheap points and won by three points.


And then Orton fumbled in the 2nd half...four plays later Oakland is up 23-13.


:Broncos:

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 12:51 AM
The Raiders were just going to run the clock out without that play. Instead they got three cheap points and won by three points.

We can play "What if" with about 90 plays.

Right now I'm EAGER to put more ****sticks name on the ****ty/please cut list.

I personally can't justify adding Vickerson. And I dont even like Vickerson.

KO5K
09-13-2011, 12:51 AM
http://s3.postimage.org/9xsdhpp38/Orton_fumble_1.gif

WAY TO GO KO5K !!!

OBF1
09-13-2011, 12:52 AM
SO what are you saying???

DBroncos4life
09-13-2011, 12:56 AM
We can play "What if" with about 90 plays.

Right now I'm EAGER to put more ****sticks name on the ****ty/please cut list.

I personally can't justify adding Vickerson. And I dont even like Vickerson.

I don't really see how it was a "What if" at all. We saw that they wanted to just run the clock out Rev. It's whatever though if you don't want to blame him for that that's fine. Him being part of a DLine that just allowed 190 yards doesn't help his case any either IMO.

smoke4815162342
09-13-2011, 01:00 AM
cant believe so many people let a high passing yard number fool them

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 01:04 AM
I don't really see how it was a "What if" at all. We saw that they wanted to just run the clock out Rev. It's whatever though if you don't want to blame him for that that's fine. Him being part of a DLine that just allowed 190 yards doesn't help his case any either IMO.

I agree in some veins... but him and Bunkley both stepped up and played a decent game. Honestly I think they deserve to be in that same Von Miller category of... well, some good and some real bad.

Ratboy
09-13-2011, 01:05 AM
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Only to win the game.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 01:06 AM
I'm totally anxious for the next Lloyd quote slandering Tebow and annointing Orton.

Along with some more Front Office leak doing the same.

epicSocialism4tw
09-13-2011, 01:33 AM
I'm totally anxious for the next Lloyd quote slandering Tebow and annointing Orton.

Along with some more Front Office leak doing the same.

Lloyd likes Orton because their cuddlebuddies on the field. Orton locks in on Lloyd on every play and Lloyd defends his boy in the press.

montrose
09-13-2011, 01:38 AM
Media comments on Orton:

@wingoz - Trey Wingo
I wonder if all those people chanting for Tebow realized what Orton just did while getting pummeled on every play

@priscoCBS - Pete Prisco
Dumbest thing is Broncos fans cheering for Tebow. Come on

@TonyDRadio - Tony Deisere
Tebow does not lead that drive for a touchdown...stop the talk

@espn4d - Pat Forde
I've been critical of the guy, but gotta give Orton his due for leading that drive in the rain, fans chanting Tebow, Lloyd on sideline.

@natekreckman - Nate Kreckman
Tebow is impervious to a wet football. I think Aquaman is also.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 01:38 AM
Lloyd likes Orton because their cuddlebuddies on the field. Orton locks in on Lloyd on every play and Lloyd defends his boy in the press.

Well it's obvious why. In a decade in the NFL Lloyd had never even come remotely CLOSE to breaking 1k yards, let alone leading the league with almost 1500.

Once a selfish prick... always a selfish prick.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 01:39 AM
Media comments on Orton:

@wingoz - Trey Wingo
I wonder if all those people chanting for Tebow realized what Orton just did while getting pummeled on every play

@priscoCBS - Pete Prisco
Dumbest thing is Broncos fans cheering for Tebow. Come on

@TonyDRadio - Tony Deisere
Tebow does not lead that drive for a touchdown...stop the talk

@espn4d - Pat Forde
I've been critical of the guy, but gotta give Orton his due for leading that drive in the rain, fans chanting Tebow, Lloyd on sideline.

@natekreckman - Nate Kreckman
Tebow is impervious to a wet football. I think Aquaman is also.

OMFG you've got to be kidding me...

Agamemnon
09-13-2011, 01:40 AM
Media comments on Orton:

@wingoz - Trey Wingo
I wonder if all those people chanting for Tebow realized what Orton just did while getting pummeled on every play

@priscoCBS - Pete Prisco
Dumbest thing is Broncos fans cheering for Tebow. Come on

@TonyDRadio - Tony Deisere
Tebow does not lead that drive for a touchdown...stop the talk

@espn4d - Pat Forde
I've been critical of the guy, but gotta give Orton his due for leading that drive in the rain, fans chanting Tebow, Lloyd on sideline.

@natekreckman - Nate Kreckman
Tebow is impervious to a wet football. I think Aquaman is also.

Wow that's some kind of stupid right there...

epicSocialism4tw
09-13-2011, 01:59 AM
Media comments on Orton:

@wingoz - Trey Wingo
I wonder if all those people chanting for Tebow realized what Orton just did while getting pummeled on every play

@priscoCBS - Pete Prisco
Dumbest thing is Broncos fans cheering for Tebow. Come on

@TonyDRadio - Tony Deisere
Tebow does not lead that drive for a touchdown...stop the talk

@espn4d - Pat Forde
I've been critical of the guy, but gotta give Orton his due for leading that drive in the rain, fans chanting Tebow, Lloyd on sideline.

@natekreckman - Nate Kreckman
Tebow is impervious to a wet football. I think Aquaman is also.

None of those guys has the least idea of what has gone on in Denver Broncos football for the past three years.

Rother8
09-13-2011, 02:04 AM
h8 ko8.

myMind
09-13-2011, 02:13 AM
But, I don't think Elway wants to risk it with Tebow. He's just trying to find a reason to see Tebow to the door and draft a QB. The only exception is, if Tebow tears it up when he plays later this season. The odds are definitely against him.

And so is John Elway!


Wrong team I know, but @ 00:35 is what I'm wondering.
Classic comedy either way, like tonights showing.

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Agamemnon
09-13-2011, 02:19 AM
No we're not, we're just not tough enough to believe in a kid..........who we should believe in.

Why?

Because he was maybe the best College football player ever.
Because he has moe heart than just about anyone in the NFL
Because his preseason stats have proven he's capable


You have to be tough to tackle the national media who all like to hate on Tebow. When you're a new Exec like Elway and you have a lamb of a GM in Xanders...it's tough. Your dilemma are the fans. That's why they have tried the media campaign to discourage fans against Tebow. Their problem is that Orton is so poor, that they're campaign has failed.

Their only options are to play Tebow (swim or sink), which I think they will later this season...or to draft a guy next year.

I love Elway, I grew up with him. I met him when I was a ball boy at Broncos training camp in Greeley in 86-87 and had him sign several cards for me as a fan in 84-85. There can be no better (to me). John Elway started for 5 Super Bowl teams (an NFL Record)...he is a God!

But, I don't think Elway wants to risk it with Tebow. He's just trying to find a reason to see Tebow to the door and draft a QB. The only exception is, if Tebow tears it up when he plays later this season. The odds are definitely against him.

And so is John Elway!

If we lack the toughness and patience to at least see what a 1st round pick has to offer, we are ****ed as an organization. Period.

Flex Gunmetal
09-13-2011, 02:27 AM
Long+short is orton is goddamn pussy who couldn't carry an offense to save his own life. I just got back from the game and I'm not crushed. I was at the oakland game last year, and while I see progress, I know orton is a guy who must rely on others to be successful. He cannot and will not make plays. Unless he hops on a team with a top 3 defense and competent running game, he, and whatever sorry ass team he starts for wont win sht.

Get him the ***k out of denver and let someone make some plays make moves. Im tired of relying on a babysitter.

Cito Pelon
09-13-2011, 02:29 AM
Media comments on Orton:

@wingoz - Trey Wingo
I wonder if all those people chanting for Tebow realized what Orton just did while getting pummeled on every play

@priscoCBS - Pete Prisco
Dumbest thing is Broncos fans cheering for Tebow. Come on

@TonyDRadio - Tony Deisere
Tebow does not lead that drive for a touchdown...stop the talk

@espn4d - Pat Forde
I've been critical of the guy, but gotta give Orton his due for leading that drive in the rain, fans chanting Tebow, Lloyd on sideline.

@natekreckman - Nate Kreckman
Tebow is impervious to a wet football. I think Aquaman is also.

Hmmmm. Orton gave it a good try, but he's not good enough. I thought Orton would be serviceable this year to let Tebow season in, but no. Tebow is gonna have to be thrown into the fire. He made some progress during the PS, it's his time, he's the only QB on the roster with winning potential.

epicSocialism4tw
09-13-2011, 02:45 AM
Hmmmm. Orton gave it a good try, but he's not good enough. I thought Orton would be serviceable this year to let Tebow season in, but no. Tebow is gonna have to be thrown into the fire. He made some progress during the PS, it's his time, he's the only QB on the roster with winning potential.

That's pretty much the best way to think about this.

errand
09-13-2011, 03:40 AM
The **** you can't.

Our owner is a goddamn senile retard that ****ed our franchise into the ground and them came on our corpse's faces.

**** Pat Bowlen forever. Seriously.

**** him.

And then the cock bag has the ****ing NERVE to say "we're 25 million under the cap, but we hit our cash limit" while he passes on legit young franchise players in the most unique FA period of all time.

That's because of YOUR dumbass mistakes you **** bag.

I'm sorry I missed the part of where you were ceo the denver broncos.... it is not "our" franchise it is his franchise pat bowlen owns the broncos......not us.

There are 31 other nfl franchises that you can root for if you're so tired of the broncos..... or the guy that owns them

WolfpackGuy
09-13-2011, 06:10 AM
4800 yards and zero wins!

Awesome!

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 06:52 AM
I'm sorry I missed the part of where you were ceo the denver broncos.... it is not "our" franchise it is his franchise pat bowlen owns the broncos......not us.

There are 31 other nfl franchises that you can root for if you're so tired of the broncos..... or the guy that owns them

5 star post. Shouldn't you be celebrating your Raider win?

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 06:53 AM
Media comments on Orton:

@wingoz - Trey Wingo
I wonder if all those people chanting for Tebow realized what Orton just did while getting pummeled on every play

@priscoCBS - Pete Prisco
Dumbest thing is Broncos fans cheering for Tebow. Come on

@TonyDRadio - Tony Deisere
Tebow does not lead that drive for a touchdown...stop the talk

@espn4d - Pat Forde
I've been critical of the guy, but gotta give Orton his due for leading that drive in the rain, fans chanting Tebow, Lloyd on sideline.

@natekreckman - Nate Kreckman
Tebow is impervious to a wet football. I think Aquaman is also.

Let me guess, every one of those guys watched a very, very shortened version of our "highlights" and missed 94% of the actual game?

montrose
09-13-2011, 06:58 AM
Let me guess, every one of those guys watched a very, very shortened version of our "highlights" and missed 94% of the actual game?

No, in fairness those tweets were coming in as the game was played in realtime.

Drek
09-13-2011, 07:03 AM
I'm sorry I missed the part of where you were ceo the denver broncos.... it is not "our" franchise it is his franchise pat bowlen owns the broncos......not us.

There are 31 other nfl franchises that you can root for if you're so tired of the broncos..... or the guy that owns them

Then I guess Pat won't mind if we all just stop giving him our money on Sundays then, right?

After all, its his team so what does he need fan support for?

BroncosSR
09-13-2011, 07:10 AM
If we draft another QB due to impatience we are well and truly doomed...

While I understand your position, just because we drafted a QB in the 1st round doesn't necessarily mean that we drafted a good QB. Hopefully that can be determined at some point this year. We still may need to correct the situation and draft a franchise QB.


Plain and simple, McD has decimated this organization. He set it back 5+ years with his inept coaching and talent acquisition.

Punisher
09-13-2011, 07:23 AM
Then I guess Pat won't mind if we all just stop giving him our money on Sundays then, right?

After all, its his team so what does he need fan support for?

Your right let protesting begin!

http://www.rafahtoday.org/newsphotos/07/december/4th/Gaza%20women%20protesting.jpg

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 07:33 AM
No, in fairness those tweets were coming in as the game was played in realtime.

Montrose - how do you feel about our starting QB? I've always had respect for your insight so i'm curious.

I know there's a lot of problems with the entire team - our O-line play is horrible, bunch of hodge podge backups with the exception of Clady. Our RB is a complete waste, and not just as a 1st rounder, overall he's just garbage regardless of what round he was chosen in. The D? Heh, do we really need to go there?

My biggest issue is that we know what we're getting with Orton - as does the rest of the league - blitz him, pressure him, and he'll beat us for them. Can anyone honestly say that we were the only team that was blitzed this entire opening weekend? I think not. So, how did all of the other QB's fair against the blitzes that were thrown against them? Does every single QB in the league fold under pressure or is everyone claiming that our o-line was completely ineffective against the blitz? Orton doesn't have the ability to slide in the pocket, to avoid anything and make a play. His idea of making a play is to blindly throw in the direction of Lloyd whenever there is pressure. We need more athleticism at the position when teams are going to pin their ears back and blitz non-stop. Why can't we adjust to that? If he's going to stand there with cement feet and lob up prayer passes why not just put in a QB that is more athletic and see what happens?

If we are truly sucking for Luck Orton is the best option - but do we really need to make it this painfully obvious? If the FO thinks Tebow is that bad and they want Luck, why not just throw him out there so he can lose? What do they care if he gets mentally beaten into the ground if they want Luck? I don't get it.

I'm still seething so this post may not make much sense. I just can't believe that 2011 had a Week 18 to it.

errand
09-13-2011, 07:42 AM
No matter how this season goes, people will be upset when Orton is not resigned.They will complain and cry and use his 2011 and 2010 and 2009 stats to "prove" he is the guy. If we only a. develop the best offensive line ever and b. develop the best defense ever.


:Broncos:

i wouldn't be upset if he left anymore than I'd bitch if he stayed.....I don't care who our QB is, i believe we can win with either guy provided the team plays well too. Tebow wouldn't fare any better with 38 yards rushing, several dropped passes, no blocking, no pressure on opposing QB and opposing RB's running thru our d like the hulk thru a day care.

Last night was a complete failure of our team in every area possible...offense, defense and special teams (despite Decker's 90 yard Td return)

jhns
09-13-2011, 07:48 AM
i wouldn't be upset if he left anymore than I'd b**** if he stayed.....I don't care who our QB is, i believe we can win with either guy provided the team plays well too. Tebow wouldn't fare any better with 38 yards rushing, several dropped passes, no blocking, no pressure on opposing QB and opposing RB's running thru our d like the hulk thru a day care.

Last night was a complete failure of our team in every area possible...offense, defense and special teams (despite Decker's 90 yard Td return)

Tebow did better with this exact same situation last season. When are you going to stop embarrassing youself? Wasn't it you that claimed it didn't matter if we score 20 or 25 ppg? That logic sure worked out...

errand
09-13-2011, 07:49 AM
And then Orton fumbled in the 2nd half...four plays later Oakland is up 23-20.


:Broncos:

Orton doesn't get a pass for his fumble...that was an "Oh no he didn't/ c'mon man!" moment for the ages.....but he also doesn't deserve all the blame for the loss either.

Sure his fumble set them up first and 10 around the 50...but he wasn't the one flailing frantically at McFadden as he sliced thru our D for a long TD run.

He also wasn't the up back who failed to block the guy who blocked the punt....nor did he have a holding call.....nor did he drop a pass...and he's not expected to sack the opposing QB....

If you wanna blame just one guy, blame Fox...his team was woefully unprepared last night.

errand
09-13-2011, 07:58 AM
Tebow did better with this exact same situation last season. When are you going to stop embarrassing youself? Wasn't it you that claimed it didn't matter if we score 20 or 25 ppg? That logic sure worked out...

Whatever clown...for the record I said it doesn't do you any good to score 25 if your d is surrendering 28.....

only an idiot like yourself would think a defense that sacks opposing QB once and allows 145 yards rushing (again) to McFadden as having no culpability in the loss.

Orton's two glaring mistakes were the fumble, and perhaps getting sacked inside red zone by Seymour. Interception wasn't as bad as vickerson's personal foul put Raiders in Jack-offkowski's range.

How many holding calls did we have?

38 yards rushing...(Orton had 10 of them himself)

One poster said he counted at least 3-4 dropped passes....

blocked punt that set up the first Raider TD...compounded by Rahim moore forgetting that Raider's FB is an eligible receiver....

Orton made his share of ****-ups...but to blame him only is ignorant...but then again you clowns can't help who or what you are.

errand
09-13-2011, 08:00 AM
Tebow did better with this exact same situation last season. When are you going to stop embarrassing youself? Wasn't it you that claimed it didn't matter if we score 20 or 25 ppg? That logic sure worked out...

how did Tebow do "better"...we got beat by ****ing 16 points. You do realize that 16 point losses count just as much as 45 point losses do right? and they don't make me feel any better either....i hate 1 point losses just as much....

Archer81
09-13-2011, 08:02 AM
Orton doesn't get a pass for his fumble...that was an "Oh no he didn't/ c'mon man!" moment for the ages.....but he also doesn't deserve all the blame for the loss either.

Sure his fumble set them up first and 10 around the 50...but he wasn't the one flailing frantically at McFadden as he sliced thru our D for a long TD run.

He also wasn't the up back who failed to block the guy who blocked the punt....nor did he have a holding call.....nor did he drop a pass...and he's not expected to sack the opposing QB....

If you wanna blame just one guy, blame Fox...his team was woefully unprepared last night.


We get a gift fumble inside the 10...we settle for 3. We finally drive into the RZ in the third qtr, captain amazing takes a sack and we settle for another 3. Orton chucks it deep to Lloyd...it got picked.

He may not be the only problem the offense has...but he does not exactly minimize the other issues. If anything he makes them 10x worse.

:Broncos:

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:03 AM
Whatever clown...for the record I said it doesn't do you any good to score 25 if your d is surrendering 28.....

only an idiot like yourself would think a defense that sacks opposing QB once and allows 145 yards rushing (again) to McFadden as having no culpability in the loss.

Orton's two glaring mistakes were the fumble, and perhaps getting sacked inside red zone by Seymour. Interception wasn't as bad as vickerson's personal foul put Raiders in Jack-offkowski's range.

How many holding calls did we have?

38 yards rushing...(Orton had 10 of them himself)

One poster said he counted at least 3-4 dropped passes....

blocked punt that set up the first Raider TD...compounded by Rahim moore forgetting that Raider's FB is an eligible receiver....

Orton made his share of ****-ups...but to blame him only is ignorant...but then again you clowns can't help who or what you are.

Yeah, you did make that retarded claim as I continually said this isn't last years defense and it still is good to improve the offense. You didn't agree because you have an IQ that matches your favorite players number...

I love the excuses but you clearly don't watch football. The defense had a good game. They worked with short fields all game and still did pretty good. Yes, the rest of the offenee sucks. That doesn't change the fact that Orton sucks or that Tebow completely outplayed him with the same offense. You are a joke. You are never right about anything...

errand
09-13-2011, 08:04 AM
Then I guess Pat won't mind if we all just stop giving him our money on Sundays then, right?

After all, its his team so what does he need fan support for?


If you don't wanna go to the stadium to watch them, that's your decision...but just as you get to decide how your life is run, he gets to decide how his team is run. You don't like it?, the NFL made sure that there are 31 other franchises for you to move onto.....and if that's not enough, you can always move onto CFL games

Archer81
09-13-2011, 08:06 AM
If you don't wanna go to the stadium to watch them, that's your decision...but just as you get to decide how your life is run, he gets to decide how his team is run. You don't like it?, the NFL made sure that there are 31 other franchises for you to move onto.....and if that's not enough, you can always move onto CFL games


So we as a fanbase is supposed to just accept continual suckage?


:Broncos:

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:07 AM
how did Tebow do "better"...we got beat by ****ing 16 points. You do realize that 16 point losses count just as much as 45 point losses do right? and they don't make me feel any better either....i hate 1 point losses just as much....

You are an idiot. The Tebow led Broncos have never scored less than 23 points. The Orton led Broncos scored around 19 on average, which was good for 22nd in the league. How did he do better? He scored more TDs. You know, the objective of the offense?

Keep defending Orton. It isn't like anyone takes you seriously.

errand
09-13-2011, 08:14 AM
5 star post. Shouldn't you be celebrating your Raider win?

You're an idiot....a hero worshipping idiot.

You love Tebow, not the Broncos.....

don't worry, if last night is indicative of how we'll play all year, your boy will get his chance......God help you if he doesn't produce wins.

See, if Kyle fails, it's no big deal...he's an average talent, remember? He's a journeyman at best according to most casual fans...he was an afterthought in the cutler trade right? He's just here in a lame duck season keeping the seat warm for Tim to take over.

But if Tebow can't produce any wins...he's a bust. why? Because the majority of fans think he's better than he probably is...and we spent a 1st round pick on him...and he's a former Heisman winner, not to mention one of the NCAA's greatest players ever, right?

Kyle has nothing to lose and everything to gain...Tim can't go anywhere but down. thanks to all the hype people like you hero worshippers produce for him.

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:16 AM
You're an idiot....a hero worshipping idiot.

You love Tebow, not the Broncos.....

don't worry, if last night is indicative of how we'll play all year, your boy will get his chance......God help you if he doesn't produce wins.

See, if Kyle fails, it's no big deal...he's an average talent, remember? He's a journeyman at best according to most casual fans...he was an afterthought in the cutler trade right? He's just here in a lame duck season keeping the seat warm for Tim to take over.

But if Tebow can't produce any wins...he's a bust. why? Because the majority of fans think he's better than he probably is...and we spent a 1st round pick on him...and he's a former Heisman winner, not to mention one of the NCAA's greatest players ever, right?

Kyle has nothing to lose and everything to gain...Tim can't go anywhere but down. thanks to all the hype people like you hero worshippers produce for him.

Why do you hate the Broncos?

This is exactly why I hate on you McFans. You all love what is bad for this franchise.

errand
09-13-2011, 08:18 AM
You are an idiot. The Tebow led Broncos have never scored less than 23 points. The Orton led Broncos scored around 19 on average, which was good for 22nd in the league. How did he do better? He scored more TDs. You know, the objective of the offense?

Keep defending Orton. It isn't like anyone takes you seriously.


Oh, losing is OK as long as you look "better" doing it? Ok got it...we can go 0-16 according to you as long as we look good doing so.

****ing moron....

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:19 AM
Oh, losing is OK as long as you look "better" doing it? Ok got it...we can go 0-16 according to you as long as we look good doing so.

****ing moron....

That is what you got out of my argument? I guess I didn't expect more.

errand
09-13-2011, 08:19 AM
Why do you hate the Broncos?

This is exactly why I hate on you McFans. You all love what is bad for this franchise.

I'm not the one in here trashing the franchise or the players...that's your job, you hero worshipping pseudo-fan

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:22 AM
I'm not the one in here trashing the franchise or the players...that's your job, you hero worshipping pseudo-fan

LOL

You support things that are bad for the team. I support things that are good for the team. From this, you think you are the good fan. Seriously, I have never interacted with a dumber person than you.

Who cares about a better offense, then I wouldn't get to watch my hero Orton! ...

errand
09-13-2011, 08:23 AM
That is what you got out of my argument? I guess I didn't expect more.

you said Tebow did better....I guess my standard for "better" is higher than yours.

See losing 59-14 is bad...so is losing 39-23. Each loss counts as a loss. ast the end of the day your team either won or lost the game....the Broncos with Kyle lost to the Raiders...and so did the Broncos with Tebow

what's better than a loss? A ****ing win....get it now clown?

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 08:24 AM
Errand - what is your prediction on our W/L record this year?

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 08:24 AM
DoYou're an idiot....a hero worshipping idiot.

You love Tebow, not the Broncos.....

don't worry, if last night is indicative of how we'll play all year, your boy will get his chance......God help you if he doesn't produce wins.

See, if Kyle fails, it's no big deal...he's an average talent, remember? He's a journeyman at best according to most casual fans...he was an afterthought in the cutler trade right? He's just here in a lame duck season keeping the seat warm for Tim to take over.

But if Tebow can't produce any wins...he's a bust. why? Because the majority of fans think he's better than he probably is...and we spent a 1st round pick on him...and he's a former Heisman winner, not to mention one of the NCAA's greatest players ever, right?

Kyle has nothing to lose and everything to gain...Tim can't go anywhere but down. thanks to all the hype people like you hero worshippers produce for him.

You caught me dude. I'm not a Broncos fan, I'm a Tebow fan.

I've been lying about being a fan since I was a kid and I joined this message board the better part of a decade to herald his coming!

Reality: Orton sucks. Sorry you keep getting repeatedly smacked in the face by that reality but that's what it is. you blamed his last mile high chokeland performance on the 5 even though kyle was throwing touchdowns to silver and black and putting the ball on the ground. Now? Yup, despite giving them almost half their points in TOs and not executing at ALL, you blame the D again.

Its laughable. Who are you?

Trent Dilfer? Go celebrate your Raider win. Bronco fans want a football player.

Archer81
09-13-2011, 08:28 AM
I am waiting for the Kyle was dinged up excuse. "Hyper-extended vag" or some such thing.


:Broncos:

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:29 AM
you said Tebow did better....I guess my standard for "better" is higher than yours.

See losing 59-14 is bad...so is losing 39-23. Each loss counts as a loss. ast the end of the day your team either won or lost the game....the Broncos with Kyle lost to the Raiders...and so did the Broncos with Tebow

what's better than a loss? A ****ing win....get it now clown?

We could have won with a little better offense last night. You are an idiot. At worst, we could at least evaluate the young QB so we know if he is the future. Are you really expecting Orton to take this team places. Why would anyone not at least want to see if Tebow continues outplaying Orton in live games? Oh, I know why! You are McFans that hate the Broncos...

errand
09-13-2011, 08:29 AM
Yeah, you did make that retarded claim as I continually said this isn't last years defense and it still is good to improve the offense. You didn't agree because you have an IQ that matches your favorite players number...

I love the excuses but you clearly don't watch football. The defense had a good game. They worked with short fields all game and still did pretty good. Yes, the rest of the offenee sucks. That doesn't change the fact that Orton sucks or that Tebow completely outplayed him with the same offense. You are a joke. You are never right about anything...

One sack...McFadden runs for 150 yards (again)....letting them convert 3rd and 13...sure the did better than allowing 59 or 39 points, but you cannot be serious. Orton is to be held accountable for his mistakes...not the mistakes of the defense, special teams, OL, Wr's or coaching staff.

See i watch the game and i see a tream that let me down by playing like a bad pop warner squad...you watch the same game and all you see is the #8.....standing in the way of #15.

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 08:30 AM
Excessive hemorrhaging

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 08:31 AM
Errand - what is your prediction on our W/L record this year?

Curious

vonqkilla
09-13-2011, 08:32 AM
Orton has no clutch in him, 0.

No escapability.

No playmaking. If the ball isnt out to his first guy, he's looking to QUIT and throw it away.

He's bears backup trash that McDs horrible gameplanning made look good by providing plenty of garbage time and no balance.

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:32 AM
One sack...McFadden runs for 150 yards (again)....letting them convert 3rd and 13...sure the did better than allowing 59 or 39 points, but you cannot be serious. Orton is to be held accountable for his mistakes...not the mistakes of the defense, special teams, OL, Wr's or coaching staff.

See i watch the game and i see a tream that let me down by playing like a bad pop warner squad...you watch the same game and all you see is the #8.....standing in the way of #15.

You don't watch the games. This is very obvious. The defense worked with a short field all day and did pretty well. You are a joke. Why do you hate this franchise? Why do you throw evertone else under the bus just to protect your hero?

errand
09-13-2011, 08:34 AM
We could have won with a little better offense last night. You are an idiot. At worst, we could at least evaluate the young QB so we know if he is the future. Are you really expecting Orton to take this team places. Why would anyone not at least want to see if Tebow continues outplaying Orton in live games? Oh, I know why! You are McFans that hate the Broncos...

Yes, we could have won with a little better offense...

we also could have won with a little better special teams play...

or a little better pass rush...

or a lot better run defense....

or better pass protection....

or fewer penalties...

or fewer dropped passes....

or better play calling....

or better conditioning...

this list can go on forever

again i see a team that lost the game...all you see is Kyle Orton's name in front of Tebow's on depth chart

Archer81
09-13-2011, 08:34 AM
One sack...McFadden runs for 150 yards (again)....letting them convert 3rd and 13...sure the did better than allowing 59 or 39 points, but you cannot be serious. Orton is to be held accountable for his mistakes...not the mistakes of the defense, special teams, OL, Wr's or coaching staff.

See i watch the game and i see a tream that let me down by playing like a bad pop warner squad...you watch the same game and all you see is the #8.....standing in the way of #15.


You would expect a 7 year NFL vet to not throw into triple coverage. Know how to slide around in the pocket and leave it if necessary and to elevate the play of the guys around you.

Orton does not scare defensive coordinators. They stack the box killing the run game. If Orton manages to stumble out of the way of pressure or gets rid of the ball before they get to him, it gets batted down. He locks on to one or two guys and everyone else gets completely ignored. Way too quick to take the checkdown and seems incapable of throwing it 8 yards on 3rd and 7.

Orton was not the only problem last night...he just happens to be the most obvious one.

:Broncos:

errand
09-13-2011, 08:35 AM
You don't watch the games. This is very obvious. The defense worked with a short field all day and did pretty well. You are a joke. Why do you hate this franchise? Why do you throw evertone else under the bus just to protect your hero?

not protecting anyone...just don't understand how you can blame one guy for what happened last night. then again you've only ever blamed one guy..and it's because he's starting over your hero Run-Tim-Tim

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 08:36 AM
you said Tebow did better....I guess my standard for "better" is higher than yours.

See losing 59-14 is bad...so is losing 39-23. Each loss counts as a loss. ast the end of the day your team either won or lost the game....the Broncos with Kyle lost to the Raiders...and so did the Broncos with Tebow

what's better than a loss? A ****ing win....get it now clown?

Wow you're an idiot...

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 08:37 AM
Errand - what is your prediction on our W/L record this year?

Still wondering.

frerottenextelway
09-13-2011, 08:42 AM
Nobody is only blaming the QB position, but the QB position is the most important position on the field. We lost with #8 in a game that there's a very good chance we would've won with #15.

Que
09-13-2011, 08:43 AM
Orton has no clutch in him, 0.

No escapability.

No playmaking. If the ball isnt out to his first guy, he's looking to QUIT and throw it away.

He's bears backup trash that McDs horrible gameplanning made look good by providing plenty of garbage time and no balance.

I kinda want know where the old Elway went. The guy talks like a NFL wonk now and quite honestly acts likes one. In fact, if the young Elway were judged with the same mindset that the Old Elway is applying to young Tebow, I seriously doubt he would have been a franchise Broncos QB. Hell, I don't even know if Elway would have been a Broncos starter. Remember the days:

1. Always scrambling outside the pocket
2. Always throwing into double coverage
3. Gunning the ball in WAY too hard every... single... pass...
4. Unable to read even basic NFL defenses
5. Relying on his physical talents rather than his finely honed skills to will a team to victory

So what gives Elway? Oh ya, it is all about the Benjamin's.... now isn't it?

OABB
09-13-2011, 08:43 AM
errorand, you make great points. especially the point that you are a ****ing idiot.

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:43 AM
Yes, we could have won with a little better offense...

we also could have won with a little better special teams play...

or a little better pass rush...

or a lot better run defense....

or better pass protection....

or fewer penalties...

or fewer dropped passes....

or better play calling....

or better conditioning...

this list can go on forever

again i see a team that lost the game...all you see is Kyle Orton's name in front of Tebow's on depth chart

The Tebow led Broncos have never scored less than 23. The Tebow led Brobcos didn't keep putting the defense in bad positions. Keep throwing everyone else under the bus to protect your hero though. Us Bronco fans want what is best for the Broncos.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 08:44 AM
Nobody is only blaming the QB position,

I will.

jhns
09-13-2011, 08:46 AM
not protecting anyone...just don't understand how you can blame one guy for what happened last night. then again you've only ever blamed one guy..and it's because he's starting over your hero Run-Tim-Tim

Why do you hate the Broncos and claim to be a Broncos fan? Are you leavinv when Orton is benched? This will only make me want Tebow even more.

frerottenextelway
09-13-2011, 08:47 AM
I will.

You blamed 12 different people on the first page of this thread!

Broncoman13
09-13-2011, 08:48 AM
Do

You caught me dude. I'm not a Broncos fan, I'm a Tebow fan.

I've been lying about being a fan since I was a kid and I joined this message board the better part of a decade to herald his coming!

Reality: Orton sucks. Sorry you keep getting repeatedly smacked in the face by that reality but that's what it is. you blamed his last mile high chokeland performance on the 5 even though kyle was throwing touchdowns to silver and black and putting the ball on the ground. Now? Yup, despite giving them almost half their points in TOs and not executing at ALL, you blame the D again.

Its laughable. Who are you?

Trent Dilfer? Go celebrate your Raider win. Bronco fans want a football player.

QFT, some 'fans' are making asses of themselves today!

Archer81
09-13-2011, 08:48 AM
I will.


x2.


:Broncos:

uplink
09-13-2011, 08:49 AM
Orton was not good but wasn't terrible last night. The thing is I watched Henne, and I don't think Orton would have beat him out if Orton had been traded to the Dolphins. Henne is not too bad.

Que
09-13-2011, 08:49 AM
Tebow (or even Quinn) plays in the RZ for that game and we win. Simple as that. Period.

zdoor
09-13-2011, 08:49 AM
Give Orton a first rate D, a great line and he can be... well... Mediocre

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 08:50 AM
You blamed 12 different people on the first page of this thread!

Hilarious! Repped!

vonqkilla
09-13-2011, 08:50 AM
I kinda want know where the old Elway went. The guy talks like a NFL wonk now and quite honestly acts likes one. In fact, if the young Elway were judged with the same mindset that the Old Elway is applying to young Tebow, I seriously doubt he would have been a franchise Broncos QB. Hell, I don't even know if Elway would have been a Broncos starter. Remember the days:

1. Always scrambling outside the pocket
2. Always throwing into double coverage
3. Gunning the ball in WAY too hard every... single... pass...
4. Unable to read even basic NFL defenses
5. Relying on his physical talents rather than his finely honed skills to will a team to victory

So what gives Elway? Oh ya, it is all about the Benjamin's.... now isn't it?
So true, Elway was the golden boy, frustratingly bad cutler like ints, just with sound mechanics.

I remember them, one in SB 32, but he got a pass.

errand
09-13-2011, 08:50 AM
Errand - what is your prediction on our W/L record this year?


Well, we'll finish somewhere between 1-15 and 15-1....

Objectively i thought prior to last night that we could actually challenge for a playoff spot as I believed we'd be able to execute better than we did.....

If we play to our potential i still think we can challenge for a playoff spot....if last night is indicative of what we can look forward to, then I'm guessing we'll finish as poorly as we did last season..

this team was poorly prepared last night, and that falls on the coaches for the most part....but also the players themselves....ALL of them.

We had 3-4 turnovers....Orton's fumble and pick, Moreno's fumble....you can't give even a bad team that many chances

we couldn't generate a real pass rush....we had 1 measly sack.

we allowed McFadden to run for 150 yards (again)....while we managed 38 yards (Orton had 10 of them himself)

special teams allowed a punt to be blocked....

WR's dropped too many passes....

OL struggled with pass protection, and run blocking....

Too many penalties that called back a few decent plays we did make....

If this **** doesn't get fixed very quickly, then we might be looking at a top 5 draft pick again.

Que
09-13-2011, 08:50 AM
Orton was not good but wasn't terrible last night. The thing is I watched Henne, and I don't think Orton would have beat him out if Orton had been traded to the Dolphins. Henne is not too bad.

Indica or Sativa? I think Indica but not sure. Can you hook me up cause that stuff must be Grrrreat!

oubronco
09-13-2011, 08:51 AM
I am waiting for the Kyle was dinged up excuse. "Hyper-extended vag" or some such thing.


:Broncos:

How's this one:

Offensive lineman Chris Kuper on the booing of Orton:

I dont know why. If were not doing the job up front, no one else can do their job. We couldnt move them and establish a running game and that affected everything.

OABB
09-13-2011, 08:51 AM
not protecting anyone...just don't understand how you can blame one guy for what happened last night. then again you've only ever blamed one guy..and it's because he's starting over your hero Run-Tim-Tim

no. its because sucks. like super hard.


sa-ucks. suckity suckity suck sucks.

suckity suckity suckity su****cks.

(now im doing an 1849er gold miner dance while i scrram..)


SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKIIIIITTTT TTYYYYYYYYYYYYY SUCK SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



HE ****ING SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!


get it?

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 08:51 AM
Give Orton a first rate D, a great line and he can be... well... Mediocre

85 Bears D, 98 Broncos ground game, 07 Pats receivers

...and we MIGHT make the playoffs.

"Let's build around this guy!" - EFX

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 08:53 AM
How's this one:

Offensive lineman Chris Kuper on the booing of Orton:

I dont know why. If were not doing the job up front, no one else can do their job. We couldnt move them and establish a running game and that affected everything.

He deserves his captain role.

Smart statement and he took responsibility for his own poor play and that of his unit.

But Orton ****ing suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkZ (with a goddamn capital Z)

Dagmar
09-13-2011, 08:55 AM
How's this one:

Offensive lineman Chris Kuper on the booing of Orton:

I dont know why. If were not doing the job up front, no one else can do their job. We couldnt move them and establish a running game and that affected everything.

When Orton had all day to throw he threw an INT that let to 3 points and the fumble that led to 7 points.

oubronco
09-13-2011, 08:55 AM
He deserves his captain role.

Smart statement and he took responsibility for his own poor play and that of his unit.

But Orton ****ing suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkZ (with a goddamn capital Z)

LOL Yes he does

Archer81
09-13-2011, 08:56 AM
1. We had 3-4 turnovers....Orton's fumble and pick, Moreno's fumble....you can't give even a bad team that many chances

2. we couldn't generate a real pass rush....we had 1 measly sack.

we allowed McFadden to run for 150 yards (again)....3. while we managed 38 yards (Orton had 10 of them himself)
special teams allowed a punt to be blocked....

WR's dropped too many passes....

4. OL struggled with pass protection, and run blocking....

Too many penalties that called back a few decent plays we did make....

If this **** doesn't get fixed very quickly, then we might be looking at a top 5 draft pick again.

1. 3. Of course when you are gifted a fumble inside the 10 and only manage 3 points...yeah.

2. 3rd and short will do that to you.

3. Hard to run the ball when your QB has the ability to check into TE screens.

4. You know why Shanny was able to get away with having the smallest o-line here in Denver? He usually had QB's who could get outside the pocket when things break down. Orton is incapable of such things, and makes his offensive line look worse than they really are.

:Broncos:

oubronco
09-13-2011, 08:56 AM
When Orton had all day to throw he threw an INT that let to 3 points and the fumble that led to 7 points.

sirhcyennek81 was looking for another excuse so I gave him one

alkemical
09-13-2011, 08:57 AM
85 Bears D, 98 Broncos ground game, 07 Pats receivers

...and we MIGHT make the playoffs.

"Let's build around this guy!" - EFX

Well, the philosophy is working. Suck bad enough and get all the top end draft picks...then by the time they mature, Orton should be gone...

wait...errr

Dagmar
09-13-2011, 08:59 AM
The Broncos have never made the playoffs after losing their first game.

Start Tebow and see what he has before the 2012 draft. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 09:00 AM
Well, we'll finish somewhere between 1-15 and 15-1....

Objectively i thought prior to last night that we could actually challenge for a playoff spot as I believed we'd be able to execute better than we did.....

If we play to our potential i still think we can challenge for a playoff spot....if last night is indicative of what we can look forward to, then I'm guessing we'll finish as poorly as we did last season..

this team was poorly prepared last night, and that falls on the coaches for the most part....but also the players themselves....ALL of them.

We had 3-4 turnovers....Orton's fumble and pick, Moreno's fumble....you can't give even a bad team that many chances

we couldn't generate a real pass rush....we had 1 measly sack.

we allowed McFadden to run for 150 yards (again)....while we managed 38 yards (Orton had 10 of them himself)

special teams allowed a punt to be blocked....

WR's dropped too many passes....

OL struggled with pass protection, and run blocking....

Too many penalties that called back a few decent plays we did make....

If this **** doesn't get fixed very quickly, then we might be looking at a top 5 draft pick again.

Wow, I seriously cannot bash you for that optimism. With this schedule and this rebuilding team tho? Not being a dick but are/were you drinking? Yes, that's an honest question. You have much more faith than I do when I look at this current team and more importantly our schedule this year. If you're serious, then props for the optimism. Honestly.

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:03 AM
The Broncos have never made the playoffs after losing their first game.

Start Tebow and see what he has before the 2012 draft. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Please so we can get the jizzfest over with and draft Luck

Dedhed
09-13-2011, 09:03 AM
If you wanna blame just one guy, blame Fox...
I do. I blame him for being dumb enough to agree with morons like you who think Orton gives us the best chance to win games.


Orton is pathetic, it was on display as clear as you could ever hope to see it last night. Get over him already.

WolfpackGuy
09-13-2011, 09:05 AM
He must be Orton or a relative.

alkemical
09-13-2011, 09:09 AM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDqjDDnoQTuwOGJ6y6Zcjl9HTZmUmy2 bDXs2NZdk-vxX9cejXP

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:11 AM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDqjDDnoQTuwOGJ6y6Zcjl9HTZmUmy2 bDXs2NZdk-vxX9cejXP

LOL Hilarious!

Archer81
09-13-2011, 09:11 AM
Please so we can get the jizzfest over with and draft Luck


Or know for sure that Tim is the guy and we as fans can at least see a speck of light in the rape room that has been the 2009-2011 Broncos.

:Broncos:

jhns
09-13-2011, 09:12 AM
I do. I blame him for being dumb enough to agree with morons like you who think Orton gives us the best chance to win games.


Orton is pathetic, it was on display as clear as you could ever hope to see it last night. Get over him already.

This has been my one worry with Fox. He loves crao QBs. He would have been a better hire for a team with a good, established, QB. I hope he realizes his hatred of good QB play soon or this franchise will be mediocre for a while.

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:13 AM
Or know for sure that Tim is the guy and we as fans can at least see a speck of light in the rape room that has been the 2009-2011 Broncos.

:Broncos:

I would like to see as well but i'm sure as hell not going in thinking he should be in the HOF already

Teboner
09-13-2011, 09:13 AM
They need to bench this bum and start the MILE HIGH MESSIAH:tebow:

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:14 AM
They need to bench this bum and start the MILE HIGH MESSIAH:tebow:

Luck's not on the team yet

Archer81
09-13-2011, 09:14 AM
I would like to see as well but i'm sure as hell not going in thinking he should be in the HOF already


Of course not. But it would be nice to know we had another QB with that potential.


:Broncos:

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:15 AM
This has been my one worry with Fox. He loves crao QBs. He would have been a better hire for a team with a good, established, QB. I hope he realizes his hatred of good QB play soon or this franchise will be mediocre for a while.

Games are won and lost in the trenches as we see year in and year out and until they fix the problem it won't matter who the QB is

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:16 AM
Of course not. But it would be nice to know we had another QB with that potential.


:Broncos:

I guess i'm in the minority that just don't see it

zdoor
09-13-2011, 09:16 AM
Yes, we could have won with a little better offense...

we also could have won with a little better special teams play...

or a little better pass rush...

or a lot better run defense....

or better pass protection....

or fewer penalties...

or fewer dropped passes....

or better play calling....

or better conditioning...

this list can go on forever

again i see a team that lost the game...all you see is Kyle Orton's name in front of Tebow's on depth chart

Man you are dumb. yes the team didn't play well. But, the QB was epically awful. The TEAM despite an extremely poor outing was good enough to win the game. The Raiders did their best to give the Broncos the game, Orton gave it back. Orton absolutely played like **** and as per usual and consistent with the last 2 years, absolutely choked and crapped the bed at key points of the game. And as per usual, he put up stats that didn't mean shiat.

While Tebow may or may not be the answer, Orton is definitely not. And, for as raw as Tebow is, He has never played a preseason or regular season game that bad.

Mountain Bronco
09-13-2011, 09:17 AM
Its funny, if you looked at stats alone, you would think well, Orton played ok, but had a couple mistakes. The reality if you watched the games is that Orton is awful and inspires no confidence in anyone. When a real pass rush comes his way, he is terrified of it. He can't do jack in the redzone (nice work on the initial turnover by the D, but going backwards won't cut it Kyle) Coaches, use your eyes man don't look at the yardage stats. The longer we stick with this clown the worse this season is going to be.

Not that there aren't a ton of other holes on this team, but Orton is awful, just as Mays is awful. I say try Mr. Irving (we already know what Haggan is and it isn't much better) for that matter.

Mountain Bronco
09-13-2011, 09:20 AM
I am not necessarily advocating for Tebow either, hell I would rather see Quinn get the shot than Orton. Dude sucks. Maybe Tebow sucks as well, it is a real possibility, but we KNOW Orton sucks.

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:22 AM
Its funny, if you looked at stats alone, you would think well, Orton played ok, but had a couple mistakes. The reality if you watched the games is that Orton is awful and inspires no confidence in anyone. When a real pass rush comes his way, he is terrified of it. He can't do jack in the redzone (nice work on the initial turnover by the D, but going backwards won't cut it Kyle) Coaches, use your eyes man don't look at the yardage stats. The longer we stick with this clown the worse this season is going to be.

Not that there aren't a ton of other holes on this team, but Orton is awful, just as Mays is awful. I say try Mr. Irving (we already know what Haggan is and it isn't much better) for that matter.

Kinda hard not to be when the O-line doesn't even slow it down

Archer81
09-13-2011, 09:24 AM
I guess i'm in the minority that just don't see it


Denver will never go anywhere with Kyle at QB. I would prefer to know if Tebow can do it. If he can't, then I would be more than OK with getting a guy in the 2012 draft.

But I want to know what we have on the roster already before another 1st round pick is used on a QB.

*BTW, I am not saying Tebow is a hall of famer. I would like it very much if he had that potential to be. I would like to know if he does or doesnt.

:Broncos:

DarkHorse
09-13-2011, 09:24 AM
So asking him to at least make an attempt at avoiding a pass rush is too much?

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:26 AM
Denver will never go anywhere with Kyle at QB. I would prefer to know if Tebow can do it. If he can't, then I would be more than OK with getting a guy in the 2012 draft.

But I want to know what we have on the roster already before another 1st round pick is used on a QB.

*BTW, I am not saying Tebow is a hall of famer. I would like it very much if he had that potential to be. I would like to know if he does or doesnt.

:Broncos:

I would like to see what he can do as well but I just don't get the " If Tebow is in there we win easily" crowd

It's like why even play the game if Tebow is in there

alkemical
09-13-2011, 09:28 AM
I would like to see what he can do as well but I just don't get the " If Tebow is in there we win easily" crowd

It's like why even play the game if Tebow is in there

"God works in mysterious ways"

???

jhns
09-13-2011, 09:29 AM
Games are won and lost in the trenches as we see year in and year out and until they fix the problem it won't matter who the QB is

I fully agree with you. Why not see if Tebow can continue completely outpkaying Orton though? We would have won last night if Tebow matched his play from last season. He definately makes it easier for the line and gives us a run game. Why not develope the young QB as we build the team? The worst that can happen is we learn we also need a QB along with an o and d line.

WolfpackGuy
09-13-2011, 09:29 AM
I'm just tired of watching Bore-ton.

Good or bad, at least Teboz has the potential for excitement, and I hate the freakin guy.

The number one goal of this season has to be figuring out the QB situation going into next year's draft.

The front office is kidding themselves if they think they're contenders this year.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 09:29 AM
I would like to see what he can do as well but I just don't get the " If Tebow is in there we win easily" crowd

It's like why even play the game if Tebow is in there

Because it was a close game despite how unprecedently terrible Orton played?

It's not "We would win because of Tebow because he's awesome"

But rather "We would win because of Tebow because he isn't a talentless retard"

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:32 AM
Because it was a close game despite how unprecedently terrible Orton played?

It's not "We would win because of Tebow because he's awesome"

But rather "We would win because of Tebow because he isn't a talentless retard"

I Know Orton sucks but I don't think Tebow is all world either some of the shyt around here is ridiculous

Dagmar
09-13-2011, 09:33 AM
I Know Orton sucks but I don't think Tebow is all world either some of the shyt around here is ridiculous

Worst case scenario, Tebow plays as bad as Orton. Even though we saw in 3 games last year where he averaged 25 PPG.

People don't understand, this isn't about Tebow - we hate Orton starting for the Broncos.

bendog
09-13-2011, 09:36 AM
Fox and Elway are not going to dumb down the offense for Tebow, and they're not going to install some half assed college offense schemed to give him ten rushes. He's getting reps to work on reads and his inexcusable and inexplicable lack of skills, given that he's been in the NFL for over a year know and has had time to get the f over Urban Meyers. I'm glad Tebow's got faith and all, but it'd be nice if he had put in the practice time offseason.

They ought to win next week, and then drop at least two of the next three. 1-4 coming out of the bye, it's tebow time. Sink or swim time. Worst case is that by week 10, they're 3-7 and have two game losing streak. Or, maybe I should say that's the best case for this "team." Tebow gets six games to show he's the guy.

BMF Bronco
09-13-2011, 09:38 AM
Worst case scenario, Tebow plays as bad as Orton. Even though we saw in 3 games last year where he averaged 25 PPG.

People don't understand, this isn't about Tebow - we hate Orton starting for the Broncos.

That's precisely it, it's about the constant ineptitude in the red zone.

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:38 AM
Worst case scenario, Tebow plays as bad as Orton. Even though we saw in 3 games last year where he averaged 25 PPG.

People don't understand, this isn't about Tebow - we hate Orton starting for the Broncos.

I get that but he doesn't deserve "ALL" the blame like most are saying he does

Beantown Bronco
09-13-2011, 09:38 AM
The Broncos have never made the playoffs after losing their first game.

Ummmm, what? Where were you in 2000? What about 2005?

Punisher
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
Luck's not on the team yet

this

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
I Know Orton sucks but I don't think Tebow is all world either some of the shyt around here is ridiculous

Link where someone says that?

Or something CLOSE to that?

canadianbroncosfan
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
Because it was a close game despite how unprecedently terrible Orton played?

It's not "We would win because of Tebow because he's awesome"

But rather "We would win because of Tebow because he isn't a talentless retard"

I totally agree, this game would have been a blowout if Oakland's defense didn't get a **** load of penalties in the third to move the Broncos down the field when Denver couldn't. First and goal from the four and had to settle for a FG? That's Tebow's specialty and that could've been the game changer!

Mountain Bronco
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
Kinda hard not to be when the O-line doesn't even slow it down

It was actually interesting to watch Brady then immediately watch Orton. Brady's Oline lost his starting center and has a rookie LT. There were times where Brady would have to slide around in the pocket due to pressure (admittedly not as much pressure on Brady as Orton had), but he always managed to get himself into a position to release the ball. With Orton, if he even tries to take two steps forward, sideways etc... the play is basically over, because Orton can't make it happen unless the ball is gone on rhythm. A QB can do a lot to help his Oline out. Orton does nothing.

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
Link where someone says that?

Or something CLOSE to that?

Just start reading

Dagmar
09-13-2011, 09:40 AM
Fox and Elway are not going to dumb down the offense for Tebow, and they're not going to install some half assed college offense schemed to give him ten rushes. He's getting reps to work on reads and his inexcusable and inexplicable lack of skills, given that he's been in the NFL for over a year know and has had time to get the f over Urban Meyers. I'm glad Tebow's got faith and all, but it'd be nice if he had put in the practice time offseason.


This is such ****. There were constant reports about him meeting up with receivers, including Lloyd. Just because the other things he did like promote a book and charity functions were well publicized doesn't mean he did no practice.

Have we accounted for every second of Orton's time during the off-season?

KO5K
09-13-2011, 09:41 AM
I get that but he doesn't deserve "ALL" the blame like most are saying he does

http://s3.postimage.org/9xsdhpp38/Orton_fumble_1.gif

Whenever you do that, you deserve all the blame you get.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 09:41 AM
Fox and Elway are not going to dumb down the offense for Tebow, and they're not going to install some half assed college offense schemed to give him ten rushes. He's getting reps to work on reads and his inexcusable and inexplicable lack of skills, given that he's been in the NFL for over a year know and has had time to get the f over Urban Meyers. I'm glad Tebow's got faith and all, but it'd be nice if he had put in the practice time offseason.

They ought to win next week, and then drop at least two of the next three. 1-4 coming out of the bye, it's tebow time. Sink or swim time. Worst case is that by week 10, they're 3-7 and have two game losing streak. Or, maybe I should say that's the best case for this "team." Tebow gets six games to show he's the guy.

Um, what do you feel would need to be "dumbed down"?

Is it, "dump off to RB" or "stare down first read, if not open, run into closest DL/throw terrible pick/just drop football"?

Because I think Tebow can execute that pretty easily.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 09:42 AM
Just start reading

Yeah, no. YOU need to start reading.

WHAT PART OF MY POST DID YOU DISAGREE WITH?

Ya know, since you randomly changed the subject and then just now refused to provide any supporting evidence.

WolfpackGuy
09-13-2011, 09:44 AM
It was actually interesting to watch Brady then immediately watch Orton. Brady's Oline lost his starting center and has a rookie LT. There were times where Brady would have to slide around in the pocket due to pressure (admittedly not as much pressure on Brady as Orton had), but he always managed to get himself into a position to release the ball. With Orton, if he even tries to take two steps forward, sideways etc... the play is basically over, because Orton can't make it happen unless the ball is gone on rhythm. A QB can do a lot to help his Oline out. Orton does nothing.

Teams rightfully respect Brady to make them pay deep, so they have to pick and choose when to attack him with extra rushers.

The one time Orton had all day to set up for a deep one, he underthrew Lloyd badly down the left sideline.

Lloyd had a couple steps on his man when the ball was thrown, but had to slow down because ****head couldn't get it to him leading to a breakup.

bendog
09-13-2011, 09:44 AM
Um, what do you feel would need to be "dumbed down"?

Is it, "dump off to RB" or "stare down first read, if not open, run into closest DL/throw terrible pick/just drop football"?

Because I think Tebow can execute that pretty easily.

And sadly it appears Tebow cannot execute it as well as Orton. You're a internet bully asshat. And you cannot even tell from plan a. being to trade Orton, the only reason Tebow is not playing is .... Tebow.

oubronco
09-13-2011, 09:45 AM
Yeah, no. YOU need to start reading.

WHAT PART OF MY POST DID YOU DISAGREE WITH?

Ya know, since you randomly changed the subject and then just now refused to provide any supporting evidence.

Dude all i'm saying is it wasn't "ALL" Orton's fault they lost and there is no guarantees so take it how you want

jhns
09-13-2011, 09:46 AM
And sadly it appears Tebow cannot execute it as well as Orton. You're a internet bully asshat. And you cannot even tell from plan a. being to trade Orton, the only reason Tebow is not playing is .... Tebow.

LOL

Yeah! He can't execute as well even though he has every time he has been in!

How intelligent.

Tombstone RJ
09-13-2011, 09:50 AM
And sadly it appears Tebow cannot execute it as well as Orton. You're a internet bully asshat. And you cannot even tell from plan a. being to trade Orton, the only reason Tebow is not playing is .... Tebow.

Tebow is a gamer dude, what part of "gamer" don't you understand? Orton is the opposit. He's super duper in practice and then he ****s his pants in the game.

Put Tebow in. Hell, put Quinn in. Just get Orton the hell out.

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 10:01 AM
And sadly it appears Tebow cannot execute it as well as Orton. You're a internet bully asshat. And you cannot even tell from plan a. being to trade Orton, the only reason Tebow is not playing is .... Tebow.

I think it's funny that every time you call me that, it's you actually trying to do it.

You're just not smart enough to pull it off, sadly.

Drek
09-13-2011, 10:20 AM
Tebow is a gamer dude, what part of "gamer" don't you understand? Orton is the opposit. He's super duper in practice and then he ****s his pants in the game.

Put Tebow in. Hell, put Quinn in. Just get Orton the hell out.

My thoughts exactly. Maybe Tebow or Quinn would suck just as much, but at least there would be a chance for growth.

The raiders are an undisciplined, one dimensional team that most of the league will have a field day with. Orton **** himself all over the field last night. It doesn't get much, if any worse.

Quinn probably sucks too. Its entirely likely that Tebow sucks. But at least with them you have the promise of youth and the unknown. With Orton we have seven years of play ranging from mediocre to horrible. He isn't suddenly going to change.

DrFate
09-13-2011, 11:25 AM
I Know Orton sucks but I don't think Tebow is all world either some of the shyt around here is ridiculous

I don't think I've seen any posters say the above. They want to see Tebow to see IF he can play, not because they KNOW he can.

Please feel free to provide at least one post that contradicts

TheReverend
09-13-2011, 11:40 AM
I don't think I've seen any posters say the above. They want to see Tebow to see IF he can play, not because they KNOW he can.

Please feel free to provide at least one post that contradicts

As he showed earlier: He won't.

He'd rather just run around in circles reciting fallacies because he has no point.

montrose
09-21-2011, 11:08 AM
Montrose - how do you feel about our starting QB? I've always had respect for your insight so i'm curious.

Just saw this, in short here'd be me thoughts on Orton. He has the skillset" to be a very effective NFL QB. I think he can read defenses well enough, and has enough arm strength and accuracy to be effective. Now that word effective is subjective, I'd define it as I think Orton's "skillset" (I'll explain later) is good enough that on a team with a pretty good defense and supporting cast on offense he could be the QB of a team with that competes in the playoffs. Again, I'm just talking about his abilities - this takes me to the major issue I have with Orton and that's the way he wilters in the clutch. In short, I don't blame a lack of arm strength or athleticism for his struggles as much as the Kyle Orton that plays in the 4th quarter of a close game is essentially a worse version of the Orton that plays in the 1st quarter. That's a problem, a big one because I don't see any amount of added talent or experience fixing that.

Inkana7
09-21-2011, 01:10 PM
I don't think I've seen any posters say the above. They want to see Tebow to see IF he can play, not because they KNOW he can.

Please feel free to provide at least one post that contradicts

I mean, we did have that one thread where people were predicting we win 9 games the rest of the season with Tebow and 3 with Orton.

bendog
09-21-2011, 01:40 PM
Well, Dedhed is currently posting not only that Tebow had a superior pre-season showing to Orton, but there is a conspiracy not to play Tebow to avoid paying the guy escalators. That's right folks, EFX are purposefully throwing away wins and pissing off fans to save a few million dollars.

alkemical
09-21-2011, 01:58 PM
Well, Dedhed is currently posting not only that Tebow had a superior pre-season showing to Orton, but there is a conspiracy not to play Tebow to avoid paying the guy escalators. That's right folks, EFX are purposefully throwing away wins and pissing off fans to save a few million dollars.


...Wouldn't those $'s be recouped in ticket sales, advertising, concessions, jersey sales, etc etc?

bendog
09-21-2011, 02:00 PM
...Wouldn't those $'s be recouped in ticket sales, advertising, concessions, jersey sales, etc etc?

I'd think. Unless, of course, Tebow's nowhere near ready to play under center

alkemical
09-21-2011, 02:01 PM
I'd think. Unless, of course, Tebow's nowhere near ready to play under center

When I was looking at the $ side of why he's not starting - it didn't make sense to me. The sooner this team starts "winning" - the cash flow problems go away.

jhns
09-21-2011, 02:13 PM
When I was looking at the $ side of why he's not starting - it didn't make sense to me. The sooner this team starts "winning" - the cash flow problems go away.

What cash flow problems? This franchise brings in more than most and still sells out every game...

CEH
09-21-2011, 02:20 PM
More than likely we will be 1-4 into the bye week and a QB change will need to be made. Got to let Tebow play the rest of the season. If we are 2-3 or better Orton sticks

peacepipe
09-21-2011, 02:32 PM
More than likely we will be 1-4 into the bye week and a QB change will need to be made. Got to let Tebow play the rest of the season. If we are 2-3 or better Orton sticksyou do know Brady Quinn is next at starter if Orton is benched or hurt?

jhns
09-21-2011, 02:34 PM
you do know Brady Quinn is next at starter if Orton is benched or hurt?

How can you be so wrong about something that is so easy to look up?

CEH
09-21-2011, 02:45 PM
you do know Brady Quinn is next at starter if Orton is benched or hurt?

Only one QB has a contract with Denver through this year. What would playing Quinn solve? No long term benefit playing Quinn. Tebow might have some long term potential

peacepipe
09-21-2011, 02:47 PM
Only one QB has a contract with Denver through this year. What would playing Quinn solve? No long term benefit playing Quinn. Tebow might have some long term potentialI understand what you're saying but I doubt Fox is going to skip over Quinn.

peacepipe
09-21-2011, 02:50 PM
How can you be so wrong about something that is so easy to look up?

Really?
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18830600

If Orton gets hurt this season and has to leave a game for good or miss some playing time, Quinn is the primary backup. That's why Quinn, a former first-round draft pick from Notre Dame, wasn't released.

TailgateNut
09-21-2011, 02:51 PM
...Wouldn't those $'s be recouped in ticket sales, advertising, concessions, jersey sales, etc etc?


....but Taco would lose money. Losing 1000 Tebow posts a day reduces his pay per click income.:wiggle:


I think Taco= Macgruder, Jhizz, OABB, Alpha Seirra Seirra, etc.

jhns
09-21-2011, 02:53 PM
Really?
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18830600

Really? Do you take all random speculation as fact? Did you watch the preseason or look at the depth chart?

Again, how can you be so wrong about something that is so easy to look up?

bronco militia
09-21-2011, 02:53 PM
Orton on pace to be a free agent


Hey pal, just play better so we can all shut the hell up about who's the next QB for the Denver Broncos.


that is all.

:thanku:

peacepipe
09-21-2011, 03:04 PM
Really? Do you take all random speculation as fact? Did you watch the preseason or look at the depth chart?

Again, how can you be so wrong about something that is so easy to look up?

you must be the only person in the country that thinks tebow is actually ahead of quinn in the depth chart. everyone knows quinn is the primary back up.

jhns
09-21-2011, 03:06 PM
you must be the only person in the country that thinks tebow is actually ahead of quinn in the depth chart. everyone knows quinn is the primary back up.

Actually, they don't. If Fox does, he needs to be fired now. If you do, you haven't been watching football.

What is it with McFans and Ortonites? Why is it that none of you know what a fact is?

myMind
09-21-2011, 03:21 PM
It is pretty silly how the media can speculate on what an "inside source" says and the weakminded swallow it whole and start regurgitating it as fact.
The fact is that Fox has both of them listed at 2, so there is no way to actually know.

robbieopperude
09-21-2011, 04:36 PM
Quinn maybe be listed as 2 on the depth chart but everyone knows he will be yanked within 3 possessions once he gets out on the field.

Dedhed
09-21-2011, 04:49 PM
It is pretty silly how the media can speculate on what an "inside source" says and the weakminded swallow it whole and start regurgitating it as fact.
The fact is that Fox has both of them listed at 2, so there is no way to actually know.

It is silly, but I think it's pretty clear who's actually #2 by watching the sidelines of both games. Tebow in his helmet ready to go. Quinn wearing an earpiece and baseball cap.

Flex Gunmetal
09-21-2011, 05:49 PM
you must be the only person in the country that thinks tebow is actually ahead of quinn in the depth chart. everyone knows quinn is the primary back up.

Lmao.
Tebow goes out before quinn, no question. I guess you haven't been paying attention to anything.

OrangeSe7en
09-21-2011, 06:10 PM
Congrats to kyle!

And congrats on the free 9 million bro!


(Figured I'd make a thread for the Orton knobs to beat each other off in--looking at you: HAT, TGN, errand, peacepipe, Beantown :(, yerner, etc)

The passing rules are a joke. Everyone is going to get over 4000 yards this year.

Bronx33
09-21-2011, 07:47 PM
This thread delivers the

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peacepipe
09-21-2011, 07:51 PM
This thread delivers the

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one of the worst movies ever made.























j/k

myMind
09-21-2011, 08:46 PM
This thread delivers the

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The Good, The Ugly, and the Bad?
Never heard of it.

TheChosen15One
09-22-2011, 07:04 PM
Kyle Orton on pace for 4800 yards mowed after this season

Fixed it.

Pendejo
09-22-2011, 08:40 PM
Fixed it.

Your avatar is great.

Rock Chalk
09-23-2011, 01:26 PM
[QUOTE=strafen;3291141]He's 0-1 when the defense allows 23 points or less this season! :~ohyah!:[/QUOTE

Are you kidding me? Turnovers put are defense with thier backs against the wall.

Not for nothing but both turnovers from Kyle in that first game came on the Raiders side of the field. Not exactly putting the defense back against the wall.

Oh wait, anytime they are on the field their backs are against the wall because they cant stop the ****ing run. My bad.

Agamemnon
09-24-2011, 05:38 PM
Not for nothing but both turnovers from Kyle in that first game came on the Raiders side of the field. Not exactly putting the defense back against the wall.

Oh wait, anytime they are on the field their backs are against the wall because they cant stop the ****ing run. My bad.

"While Orton definitely took a **** in that game, he didn't actually **** in my mouth, so I'm okay with it." -Rock Chalk