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AlphaSeirra
10-09-2011, 10:43 AM
Yeah, Tebow started the last three games. His record was 1 and 2, the same as Orton's first three games this year.

Smarter and smarter,,,, I'm tellin' ya!

So, a 2010 rookie with no preseason or regular season 1st team practice time,

is just as good/productive in W/L stats,

as an NFL Vet in his 8th season, 3rd season with the Broncos....

How about listing this stat (or are you scared to) for us:

Tebow games when leading the team to less than 23 pts as the starter.

Orton games when leading the team to less than 23 pts as the starter.

That, or just admit to being yet another biased/ignorant PoS.
(that PoS is fair if you want to refer to me as a Tebownite/Tebower, etc.) :welcome:

Rohirrim
10-09-2011, 11:38 AM
Judging by your join date, you came with Tebow. No doubt, you'll leave with him too. :wave:

maven
10-09-2011, 11:52 AM
Judging by your join date, you came with Tebow. No doubt, you'll leave with him too. :wave:

The Tebow fans are going to be very disappointed if Denver somehow secures Andrew Luck.

Rohirrim
10-09-2011, 11:53 AM
The Tebow fans are going to be very disappointed if Denver somehow secures Andrew Luck.

Maybe then we can just get back to being Broncos fans. :ouwknow:

AlphaSeirra
10-09-2011, 11:54 AM
Judging by your join date, you came with Tebow. No doubt, you'll leave with him too. :wave:

What your crap statement really shows is that you're the usual 'dodge ball' moron when your dumb-chit statements are shown to be mostly just more biased (Orton and/or Lucky) bs.

However, I'll address your stupidity anyway.
When I started posting here is you standard, huh? Ha!

Actually, I came to the Broncos with one of the 3 Amigos and I was also a fan of the Orange Crush. Were you even a stain on the sheets before that?

And I am already here seldom, so when I leave should be of little concern to anyone, even to a twit like you. :yayaya:

Deal with the facts, or just continue with your weak flaming personal attacks, neither bothers me in the real world. :strong:

Rohirrim
10-09-2011, 11:55 AM
I notice you haven't visited your facebook page in a while:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19256001864

AlphaSeirra
10-09-2011, 12:00 PM
The Tebow fans are going to be very disappointed if Denver somehow secures Andrew Luck.

How so?

What that will mean is that Tim gets traded to a (probably better) team with a real 'fair' chance to become the starter.

I was initially happy that Tim went to the Broncos in 2010.
Since then, I've become more aware that the Broncos of today bear little to no resemblence to the Broncos of old. (sad really)

Tebow getting out of Denver might just be a boon to both him and to some of us who like to watch a winner in action. :sunshine:

Anyway, after one more year, Tim will be the one to choose to stay or go.
Another incompetent/crap FO/HBC year like this one, and I'm pretty sure that he's gone in 2013. ^5

maven
10-09-2011, 12:06 PM
How so?

What that will mean is that Tim gets traded to a (probably better) team with a real 'fair' chance to become the starter.

I was initially happy that Tim went to the Broncos in 2010.
Since then, I've become more aware that the Broncos of today bear little to no resemblence to the Broncos of old. (sad really)

Tebow getting out of Denver might just be a boon to both him and to some of us who like to watch a winner in action. :sunshine:

Anyway, after one more year, Tim will be the one to choose to stay or go.
Another incompetent/crap FO/HBC year like this one, and I'm pretty sure that he's gone in 2013. ^5

If the Broncos get Luck, trade Tebow for a box of bibles and a pack of underwear.

TheChamp24
10-09-2011, 07:50 PM
So are we still going for Luck? I gotta admit I'm worried about the Colts getting him :(

spdirty
10-09-2011, 08:04 PM
So are we still going for Luck? I gotta admit I'm worried about the Colts getting him :(

The Colts might be the only team Luck would pull an Elway/Eli Manning on. So that might be to our benefit if they get that pick.

snowspot66
10-09-2011, 09:14 PM
So are we still going for Luck? I gotta admit I'm worried about the Colts getting him :(

Of all the teams in the running for Luck the Colts have one of the easier schedules. They have the Jags twice and a few others that might be winnable. The Chiefs probably got their last win of the year unless they pull one out against us.

DENVERDUI55
10-09-2011, 09:16 PM
So are we still going for Luck? I gotta admit I'm worried about the Colts getting him :(

I sure hope so.

peacepipe
10-09-2011, 10:07 PM
.

Momentum
10-09-2011, 10:41 PM
Looks like the plan is officially in motion.

epicSocialism4tw
10-09-2011, 10:50 PM
Screw Luck.

This is the Denver Broncos, not Stanford. I hope he loses every game he ever plays.

redrocket
10-09-2011, 11:13 PM
good thread

maven
10-09-2011, 11:15 PM
The Colts might be the only team Luck would pull an Elway/Eli Manning on. So that might be to our benefit if they get that pick.

I can't imagine wanting to go to a team knowing you are going to sit a few years waiting for Manning(hell of a player) to hang it up.

redrocket
10-09-2011, 11:18 PM
some of u guys are amateurs tho

redrocket
10-09-2011, 11:21 PM
....... whos whith me

redrocket
10-09-2011, 11:26 PM
GETTT LIVEEEEE

Rolandftw
10-09-2011, 11:28 PM
How so?

What that will mean is that Tim gets traded to a (probably better) team with a real 'fair' chance to become the starter.

I was initially happy that Tim went to the Broncos in 2010.
Since then, I've become more aware that the Broncos of today bear little to no resemblence to the Broncos of old. (sad really)

Tebow getting out of Denver might just be a boon to both him and to some of us who like to watch a winner in action. :sunshine:

Anyway, after one more year, Tim will be the one to choose to stay or go.
Another incompetent/crap FO/HBC year like this one, and I'm pretty sure that he's gone in 2013. ^5

Lol. The Broncos weren't the same Broncos of old, when they drafted Tebow in the first place.

AlphaSeirra
10-10-2011, 06:55 AM
Lol. The Broncos weren't the same Broncos of old, when they drafted Tebow in the first place.

Just wait a day or two and even the morons have a chance to come around to reality....


Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! ^5

oubronco
10-11-2011, 02:20 PM
In this weeks Suck for Luck sweepstakes

4. Denver Broncos (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/denver-broncs/67044)
Week 5 performance: Lost 29-24 to San Diego: Tim Tebow (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/tim-tebow/766555) came off the bench to ignite a fourth quarter comeback, but it wasn’t enough.

The Quarterbacks
The Guy: Tim Tebow: 4-10, 79 yards, 1 TD, 38 rushing yards, 1 rushing TD

On the Shelf: Kyle Orton (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/kyle-orton/300245), Brady Quinn (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/brady-quinn/469549)

Would they take Luck? Yes. Tim Tebow may sell a lot of jerseys. Sure, he may be the fan favorite. And of course, he’s making first-round money. He’ll make an awfully nice H-back lining up behind Luck.

alkemical
10-11-2011, 03:53 PM
fap?

Tombstone RJ
10-11-2011, 04:23 PM
In this weeks Suck for Luck sweepstakes

4. Denver Broncos (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/denver-broncs/67044)
Week 5 performance: Lost 29-24 to San Diego: Tim Tebow (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/tim-tebow/766555) came off the bench to ignite a fourth quarter comeback, but it wasnít enough.

The Quarterbacks
The Guy: Tim Tebow: 4-10, 79 yards, 1 TD, 38 rushing yards, 1 rushing TD

On the Shelf: Kyle Orton (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/kyle-orton/300245), Brady Quinn (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/brady-quinn/469549)

Would they take Luck? Yes. Tim Tebow may sell a lot of jerseys. Sure, he may be the fan favorite. And of course, heís making first-round money. Heíll make an awfully nice H-back lining up behind Luck.

Tebow will now get a chance to prove he's worth his first round status. If he helps the Broncos win enough games to ensure they don't draft in the top 10 then he's functionally secured his job for 2012 and beyond.

Luck is so hyped up right now that whoever is drafting #1 is going to hold onto that pick and not trade it unless another team proposes a trade so out of whack it's akin to what the Saints did for Ricky Williams.

Rolandftw
10-11-2011, 06:56 PM
Just wait a day or two and even the morons have a chance to come around to reality....


Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! ^5

You really overdo smileys.

NOLA Bronco
10-11-2011, 08:05 PM
Here is a fortune I got a few weeks ago. I think it is relevant.

spdirty
10-12-2011, 07:38 AM
Tebow will now get a chance to prove he's worth his first round status. If he helps the Broncos win enough games to ensure they don't draft in the top 10 then he's functionally secured his job for 2012 and beyond.

Luck is so hyped up right now that whoever is drafting #1 is going to hold onto that pick and not trade it unless another team proposes a trade so out of whack it's akin to what the Saints did for Ricky Williams.

No it's gonna be a lot more than that. Elway would give up twice what the Saints gave up to get him.

AlphaSeirra
10-12-2011, 11:42 AM
You really overdo smileys.

I use only as many as 'I' deem appropiate. Nnyah!

I couldn't care any less about your smiley opinions and my use of them. Nnyah!

But you have a real nice day anyway now, ya hear? :wave:

schaaf
10-12-2011, 11:50 AM
I use only as many as 'I' deem appropiate. Nnyah!

I couldn't care any less about your smiley opinions and my use of them. Nnyah!

But you have a real nice day anyway now, ya hear? :wave:

You and your smiley's can go to hell.

maven
10-12-2011, 12:08 PM
In this weeks Suck for Luck sweepstakes

4. Denver Broncos (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/denver-broncs/67044)
Week 5 performance: Lost 29-24 to San Diego: Tim Tebow (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/tim-tebow/766555) came off the bench to ignite a fourth quarter comeback, but it wasnít enough.

The Quarterbacks
The Guy: Tim Tebow: 4-10, 79 yards, 1 TD, 38 rushing yards, 1 rushing TD

On the Shelf: Kyle Orton (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/kyle-orton/300245), Brady Quinn (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/brady-quinn/469549)

Would they take Luck? Yes. Tim Tebow may sell a lot of jerseys. Sure, he may be the fan favorite. And of course, heís making first-round money. Heíll make an awfully nice H-back lining up behind Luck.

since the broncos are allergic to winning, this thread will continue to the end of season.

Rolandftw
10-12-2011, 01:27 PM
I use only as many as 'I' deem appropiate. Nnyah!

I couldn't care any less about your smiley opinions and my use of them. Nnyah!

But you have a real nice day anyway now, ya hear? :wave:

The only question is who is more fake? You or Tebow?

boltaneer
10-12-2011, 04:25 PM
Nah Rams fans have said more than plenty.
I have a question for you though. Do you really think Rivers is going to take you guys to the SB?

We're talking about the same Super Bowl that Eli Manning, Rex Grossman and Jake DelHomme went to, right?

Rolandftw
10-12-2011, 07:05 PM
Rivers has only been a starter for six years. He's 3-3 in the playoffs, and if it wasn't for running into one of the best teams in all time in New England (17-0 at the time), he probably would have went to one already.

I despise the guy, but he has the best chance of any QB in the AFC West to reach the SB. Not going to say he will for sure, because a lot of great QB's never do.. but SD will be in the running for awhile. No one in the AFC is an unstoppable force.

NE, Pitt, Baltimore, SD are all real good teams.. with Buffalo a potential dark horse.

Dr. Broncenstein
10-12-2011, 07:22 PM
We're talking about the same Super Bowl that Eli Manning, Rex Grossman and Jake DelHomme went to, right?

Right. The same one Rivers couldn't go to with Tomlinson, Gates, Merriman, and Sproles. The same one he'll never see as a Charger.

Dedhed
10-12-2011, 07:28 PM
F^(k Luck!

TotallyScrewed
10-12-2011, 07:47 PM
I despise the guy, but he has the best chance of any QB in the AFC West to reach the SB. Not going to say he will for sure, because a lot of great QB's never do.. but SD will be in the running for awhile. No one in the AFC is an unstoppable force.

NE, Pitt, Baltimore, SD are all real good teams.. with Buffalo a potential dark horse.

Holry ****...watch that limb you're out on!

You mean that Rivers is better than M. Cassell, Jason Cambell and (current version) of Tim Tebow? Wow...He surely is a "great" QB.

Rolandftw
10-12-2011, 07:56 PM
He's probably top 5 in the NFL. After Rodgers, Brees, and Brady.

boltaneer
10-13-2011, 12:27 AM
Right. The same one Rivers couldn't go to with Tomlinson, Gates, Merriman, and Sproles. The same one he'll never see as a Charger.

Damn those torn ACLs.

Agamemnon
10-13-2011, 12:28 AM
He's probably top 5 in the NFL. After Rodgers, Brees, and Brady.

Not this year so far...

TheChamp24
10-13-2011, 01:52 PM
I want a QB who can do this baby:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/89wGMqET3AM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

TDmvp
10-13-2011, 02:03 PM
I want a QB who can do this baby:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/89wGMqET3AM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ooooo he caught a pass.

Impressive. Hell Tebow or Quinn could do that.



I'm about to the point I hope Luck blows both knees or stays in college another year just to break the morons who want him hearts.

As a fan living in a area where I've watched fans of the local teams hope they suck to pick so in so. It never works out and always ends in flames.
So good "luck' with that.


And no way I want anyone on this team who is related to Oliver Luck...

peacepipe
10-13-2011, 03:41 PM
Ooooo he caught a pass.

Impressive. Hell Tebow or Quinn could do that.



I'm about to the point I hope Luck blows both knees or stays in college another year just to break the morons who want him hearts.As a fan living in a area where I've watched fans of the local teams hope they suck to pick so in so. It never works out and always ends in flames.
So good "luck' with that.


And no way I want anyone on this team who is related to Oliver Luck...

why be such a hater? I can't blame you.I'm about to the point, I want to see Tebow bust both his knees throwing a pick 6 just to break the morons who think Tebow is the QBOTF.

HILife
10-17-2011, 04:47 PM
Here you go people. The offical twitter page.

http://twitter.com/suckforluck

NFLBRONCO
10-17-2011, 09:08 PM
According to Stink, 4 guys (Orton, Royal, DJ, and Champ) have a good chance of being traded, and it would be surprising to see more than 2 of them stay. And yes, it's all about Luck. The Broncos are betting that they will not get the top pick, but that the team that gets it (St. Louis) will already have their QBOF. So they're going to try to get as many picks as possible to put together a package good enough to get the top pick.

HILife
10-17-2011, 09:11 PM
According to Stink, 4 guys (Orton, Royal, DJ, and Champ) have a good chance of being traded, and it would be surprising to see more than 2 of them stay. And yes, it's all about Luck. The Broncos are betting that they will not get the top pick, but that the team that gets it (St. Louis) will already have their QBOF. So they're going to try to get as many picks as possible to put together a package good enough to get the top pick.

And were did Stink get this from?

NFLBRONCO
10-17-2011, 09:16 PM
And were did Stink get this from?

Light rail lol

Popps
10-17-2011, 09:18 PM
I just can't imagine we could "out-duel" Miami or Indy in this "battle." We'll win a few games this year. I just can't imagine Miami winning one the way they're playing at this point. Indy looks better, to me.

Now, watch them beat us next week.

Durango
10-17-2011, 09:18 PM
According to Stink, 4 guys (Orton, Royal, DJ, and Champ) have a good chance of being traded, and it would be surprising to see more than 2 of them stay. And yes, it's all about Luck. The Broncos are betting that they will not get the top pick, but that the team that gets it (St. Louis) will already have their QBOF. So they're going to try to get as many picks as possible to put together a package good enough to get the top pick.

Oh BS.

I'm not doubting you, or that these 'analysts' would come up with some pie in the sky crap like that, but that's just dumb, and very poor perspective from so-called experts.

Trading Bailey might prompt an armed insurrection among Bronco fans, I don't care what happens to Orton at this point, and DJ has a monster contract that no-one is going to take on. I don't know what's going on with Royal, if anything, but he's been an injury machine, and I just can't imagine a trading partner wanting him just for the future potential.

Everyone wanted Tebow starting here, and now he's starting. What that means is 4, 5 or even 6 wins, slotting Denver somewhere between 8 and 12 in the 2012 draft. If we had all quietly allowed Orton to take us down the tubes, we'd be right in the running.

Considering the number of desperate franchises willing to sell the farm for this Luck kid, Denver just won't have enough to go up and get him no matter who they trade for draft choices this year.

Dedhed
10-17-2011, 09:19 PM
why be such a hater? I can't blame you.I'm about to the point, I want to see Tebow bust both his knees throwing a pick 6 just to break the morons who think Tebow is the QBOTF.

Nice. Douche.

yerner
10-17-2011, 09:31 PM
According to Stink, 4 guys (Orton, Royal, DJ, and Champ) have a good chance of being traded, and it would be surprising to see more than 2 of them stay. And yes, it's all about Luck. The Broncos are betting that they will not get the top pick, but that the team that gets it (St. Louis) will already have their QBOF. So they're going to try to get as many picks as possible to put together a package good enough to get the top pick.

ha. that would be awesome to watch the drama unfold here.

rock
10-17-2011, 09:35 PM
Miami will be picking #1 this year folks.

They will have Luck and a new coach.

Bronx33
10-17-2011, 09:42 PM
rock!!! what are the winning lotto numbers in colorado? hurry!!

Dedhed
10-17-2011, 09:42 PM
Do we have the 'phins 2nd rounder, or did that already happen?

Dagmar
10-17-2011, 09:43 PM
Miami will be picking #1 this year folks.

They will have Luck and a new coach.

This. They are bloody awful.

SoCalBronco
10-17-2011, 09:46 PM
****ing Miami.

rock
10-17-2011, 09:47 PM
rock!!! what are the winning lotto numbers in colorado? hurry!!

You don't need to be a psychic to see how freaking horrible Miami is.

TheChamp24
10-17-2011, 09:47 PM
Miami will be picking #1 this year folks.

They will have Luck and a new coach.

Colts say NOT SO FAST!
But Sporano look awful as a head coach.
4th and inches on the Jets 40 yard line and you punt?

Dagmar
10-17-2011, 09:47 PM
If the Draft was held tomorrow the Broncos would have the 8th pick..

strafen
10-17-2011, 10:31 PM
Colts say NOT SO FAST!
But Sporano look awful as a head coach.
4th and inches on the Jets 40 yard line and you punt?I'm having a hell of a hard time believing the Colts are really this bad with just missing Peyton. Just saying...

TDmvp
10-17-2011, 10:37 PM
I'm having a hell of a hard time believing the Colts are really this bad with just missing Peyton. Just saying...


I don't...

Besides a aging Reggie Wayne who might be a product of having Manning and a couple if nice complementary wr's what do they have on O ?

They are the Broncos of the Dan Reeves years on O as far as one person making average guys way better then they are and making a average to poor team really good.

ScottXray
10-17-2011, 10:42 PM
I just can't imagine we could "out-duel" Miami or Indy in this "battle." We'll win a few games this year. I just can't imagine Miami winning one the way they're playing at this point. Indy looks better, to me.

Now, watch them beat us next week.

Well if we try to suck for Luck , we need to lose this week then lose out. and hope that Indy and St. Louis win one or two each.

I do not think we should attempt this.

WARNING! DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS AT HOME!

THE LOSING DEPICTED HERE IS BEING DONE BY PAID PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES, AND SHOULD NOT BE EMULATED BY ANY OTHER ORGANISATION OR FANBASE!:wave:

alkemical
10-18-2011, 06:58 AM
I think this is going to blow up in Elway's face.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrLDZYBzc_71hLG3Er8txCRn2VMiAja hn12eHEzhpTdXzr-q0oYA

TheChamp24
10-18-2011, 07:25 AM
I'm having a hell of a hard time believing the Colts are really this bad with just missing Peyton. Just saying...

Is it that hard to believe?
That offense hasn't had a running game for years and lived off of Peyton no huddling and making plays on his own.
The defense then when the offense got up, reared back and played to get to the QB.

oubronco
10-18-2011, 07:32 AM
According to Stink, 4 guys (Orton, Royal, DJ, and Champ) have a good chance of being traded, and it would be surprising to see more than 2 of them stay. And yes, it's all about Luck. The Broncos are betting that they will not get the top pick, but that the team that gets it (St. Louis) will already have their QBOF. So they're going to try to get as many picks as possible to put together a package good enough to get the top pick.

Suck for Luck is in motion

Old Dude
10-18-2011, 07:42 AM
Miami will be picking #1 this year folks.

They will have Luck and a new coach.

Miami will kick our butt this week.

eddie mac
10-18-2011, 07:45 AM
If this is indeed the franchise braintrust's plan then **** them and **** any fan that supports it. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

oubronco
10-18-2011, 07:48 AM
Miami will kick our butt this week.

I think it could happen, but surely not.............Right

chawknz
10-18-2011, 08:05 AM
Not after last nights showing. Tebow is going to have a career day.

BowlenBall
10-18-2011, 09:01 AM
This is a huge game coming up, but not for the obvious reasons.

If we beat the Dolphins, it essentially takes us out of contention for Andrew Luck (either the Dolphins or the Colts will finish at 2-14 or worse). So, in a very exciting way, Tebow controls his own destiny, against an 0-5 team which is coming off of a Monday night game and is holding a memorial night for Tebow and his college team -- no matter what happens, it's gonna be memorable.

If you support the Broncos, but not Tebow -- you want us to lose.

If you support the Broncos AND Tebow -- you want us to win.

AlphaSeirra
10-18-2011, 09:43 AM
Jus win baby....

Rohirrim
10-18-2011, 09:45 AM
If this is indeed the franchise braintrust's plan then **** them and **** any fan that supports it. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

And yet, oddly enough, I'm not. :puff:

AlphaSeirra
10-18-2011, 09:51 AM
If this is indeed the franchise braintrust's plan then **** them and **** any fan that
supports it. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Seems to me that shame can easily be found in Denver lately..... :-*

[QUOTE=Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO
According to Stink, 4 guys (Orton, Royal, DJ, and Champ) have a good chance of being traded,
and it would be surprising to see more than 2 of them stay. And yes, it's all about Luck.[QUOTE]

IF Elway would throw that useless Tebow in with 3 of the 4 in the above group and offer them all together for
the Phins Lucky pick, I'm betting that the Phins would be all over it like white on rice.... ;)

(keep Orton as a backup and helper to that Lucky newbee) :wiggle:

Rohirrim
10-18-2011, 11:10 AM
This "Suck for Luck" thing is becoming so popular now, I wonder if during the league meetings next year, they don't throw around the idea of going for a lottery in the first round.

bendog
10-18-2011, 11:21 AM
This "Suck for Luck" thing is becoming so popular now, I wonder if during the league meetings next year, they don't throw around the idea of going for a lottery in the first round.

I think it's more of a joke in that imo Indy and Mia are the two favorites. Indy's screwed because they resigned Payaton w/o realizing how bad he was hurt. There's nothing untoward in that. Mia is imploding. But they sign some free agents in the offseason, and really over achieved, imo, to go 7-9. It's not like they traded a good qb to go with Henne.

bendog
10-18-2011, 11:23 AM
Miami will kick our butt this week.

If so, Elway's a genius for unloading whomever he can for whatever. I mean if Tebow can't beat that team, McD really screwed us worse than even I think.

TonyR
10-18-2011, 11:40 AM
Why does everyone keep forgetting about the Rams? I keep hearing Miami and Indy but the Rams may be worse than both.

bendog
10-18-2011, 11:48 AM
http://www.nfl.com/teams/schedule?team=STL

I keep thinking that they outta beat cinny or ariz or even sea, but they really underperform compared to last year. I hope Lloyd gives them a boost (-:

Rohirrim
10-18-2011, 12:06 PM
Why does everyone keep forgetting about the Rams? I keep hearing Miami and Indy but the Rams may be worse than both.

I believe if the Rams end up with the #1, they'll trade it.

NFLBRONCO
10-18-2011, 12:09 PM
Would you trade our 2012 #1 2013 #1 and Von Miller for Luck?

Rohirrim
10-18-2011, 12:10 PM
Would you trade our 2012 #1 2013 #1 and Von Miller for Luck?

I would take Von Miller off the table. Period.

NFLBRONCO
10-18-2011, 12:11 PM
I know the Rams would not be able to move Bradford from the old CBA contract. If Luck is the best QB coming out since Elway couldn't they find a $$$ way to keep Luck and trade Bradford?

NFLBRONCO
10-18-2011, 12:13 PM
I would take Von Miller off the table. Period.

Don't you think it would take a package like that to get him?

maven
10-18-2011, 12:14 PM
Would you trade our 2012 #1 2013 #1 and Von Miller for Luck?

If that is it and all it was to secure Luck, then yes I would do it.

bendog
10-18-2011, 12:27 PM
I don't know about Miller, but I'm pretty sure Elway would give up a top 10 in 2012, the one in 2013, and trade the no2 in 2012 with other picks to get a mid-low 2012 first rounder to get Luck.

If Mia gets the pick, they might be desperate enough to do the deal if it included Tebow and two first rounders.

Rohirrim
10-21-2011, 02:19 PM
The latest on Suck for Luck:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/21/us/suck-for-luck-could-be-best-hope-for-nfls-worst/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

What Fox had to say:
"We don't really pay much attention to it, to be honest with you," Denver coach John Fox said this week when asked about the Luck sweepstakes. "But it's part of the popularity of our great game of NFL football. Being a competitor, I don't know many coaches or players to be different. You're trying to win every game."

What Luck had to say:
"I am aware of it," Luck told the New York Times. "A couple of guys told me about it. I think it's stupid. Simply put."

Old Dude
10-21-2011, 07:12 PM
We're going to finish around 4-12, which won't get Denver the Stanford QB unless he stinks up the combine (which he won't) but it will be bad enough to be humiliating, again.

Two or three more years of this and I think we can sniff .500 again.

Tombstone RJ
10-21-2011, 08:56 PM
Tebow can play himself right out of a job if the team drafts in the top 10 again. Even if the Broncos aren't in the Luck sweepstakes, I doubt EFX will pass on one of the other blue chip QBs.

Tebow is great under pressure. He should go into every game like his job is on the line. If he carries this team to 6 or 7 more wins he will be ok. If not, there's simply no telling what EFX will do in the upcoming draft. I doubt EFX will mortgage the future to get Luck but I think they might take the next best QB available.

Arkie
10-21-2011, 09:50 PM
I don't think we'll out-suck Miami, St. Louis, or Indianapolis, even with Orton. With Tebow, we can't out-suck Minnesota, Arizona or Carolina. Chances are not looking good.

epicSocialism4tw
10-21-2011, 10:05 PM
Tebow can play himself right out of a job if the team drafts in the top 10 again. Even if the Broncos aren't in the Luck sweepstakes, I doubt EFX will pass on one of the other blue chip QBs.

Tebow is great under pressure. He should go into every game like his job is on the line. If he carries this team to 6 or 7 more wins he will be ok. If not, there's simply no telling what EFX will do in the upcoming draft. I doubt EFX will mortgage the future to get Luck but I think they might take the next best QB available.

Tebow just has to show improvement. That's it.

He doesn't have to win another game if he shows steady improvement.

Tombstone RJ
10-21-2011, 10:16 PM
Tebow just has to show improvement. That's it.

He doesn't have to win another game if he shows steady improvement.

hell yah he has to show improvement, a lot of improvement. He also has to win games if he wants to stay a Bronco. Its naive to think that his job is safe if he just improves.

Whether you like it or not Tebow may not be Elway's guy. I'm sure John loves Tebows attitude and intangibles but he also knows that it takes a certain type of talent at the QB position to win games in the NFL. Aaron Rogers is example A. Dude can flat out throw a bb through a pinhole at 10 yards.

HAT
10-21-2011, 11:09 PM
We're going to finish around 4-12, which won't get Denver the Stanford QB unless he stinks up the combine (which he won't) but it will be bad enough to be humiliating, again.

Two or three more years of this and I think we can sniff .500 again.

They'll be .500 this year dummy.

epicSocialism4tw
10-21-2011, 11:45 PM
hell yah he has to show improvement, a lot of improvement. He also has to win games if he wants to stay a Bronco. Its naive to think that his job is safe if he just improves.

Whether you like it or not Tebow may not be Elway's guy. I'm sure John loves Tebows attitude and intangibles but he also knows that it takes a certain type of talent at the QB position to win games in the NFL. Aaron Rogers is example A. Dude can flat out throw a bb through a pinhole at 10 yards.

Tebow has given us no reason to believe that he cant get the job done.

Agamemnon
10-22-2011, 05:13 AM
We're going to finish around 4-12, which won't get Denver the Stanford QB unless he stinks up the combine (which he won't) but it will be bad enough to be humiliating, again.

Two or three more years of this and I think we can sniff .500 again.

The only thing that could drop Luck's draft position right now is a season ending injury.

Agamemnon
10-22-2011, 05:14 AM
Tebow has given us no reason to believe that he cant get the job done.

People are really good at making them up though...

Agamemnon
10-22-2011, 05:16 AM
hell yah he has to show improvement, a lot of improvement. He also has to win games if he wants to stay a Bronco. Its naive to think that his job is safe if he just improves.

Whether you like it or not Tebow may not be Elway's guy. I'm sure John loves Tebows attitude and intangibles but he also knows that it takes a certain type of talent at the QB position to win games in the NFL. Aaron Rogers is example A. Dude can flat out throw a bb through a pinhole at 10 yards.

Tebow doesn't need to be on par with Aaron Rodgers to be a great QB for us. I hope Elway isn't that delusional.

Agamemnon
10-22-2011, 05:19 AM
Tebow can play himself right out of a job if the team drafts in the top 10 again. Even if the Broncos aren't in the Luck sweepstakes, I doubt EFX will pass on one of the other blue chip QBs.

Tebow is great under pressure. He should go into every game like his job is on the line. If he carries this team to 6 or 7 more wins he will be ok. If not, there's simply no telling what EFX will do in the upcoming draft. I doubt EFX will mortgage the future to get Luck but I think they might take the next best QB available.

There is absolutely no reason to draft any QB other than Luck this upcoming draft. There's nothing special about the rest of this QB class. We have much more pressing needs, and QBs need more than 14 starts to develop.

Not to say you are necessarily wrong. You might be right. EFX is pretty freaking retarded after all...

spdirty
10-22-2011, 09:51 AM
Would you trade our 2012 #1 2013 #1 and Von Miller for Luck?

Anything and anyone except John Elways wife and kids is acceptable to me.

spdirty
10-22-2011, 09:57 AM
Tebow just has to show improvement. That's it.

He doesn't have to win another game if he shows steady improvement.

If Tebow simply "shows improvement" without wins throughout the year then that puts us at 1-15, and we get the chance to draft Luck and Tebow has to put the pom poms back on on the sideline next year. Cuz we can't trade him, that's for damn sure.

spdirty
10-22-2011, 10:03 AM
The only thing that could drop Luck's draft position right now is a season ending injury.

Not even that. Torn rotator cuff, blown knee, or even Tommy johns wouldn't threaten to budge his draft position. As long as he can make a full recovery and play 10 years afterwards hes going number 1. Only thing that might tamper with his stock would be broken neck, or amputated limb or death.

Agamemnon
10-22-2011, 06:34 PM
Not even that. Torn rotator cuff, blown knee, or even Tommy johns wouldn't threaten to budge his draft position. As long as he can make a full recovery and play 10 years afterwards hes going number 1. Only thing that might tamper with his stock would be broken neck, or amputated limb or death.

You are wrong. If it's an injury that has a history of either diminishing athletic performance and/or injury recurrence, it will drop him a bit.

spdirty
10-22-2011, 06:40 PM
You are wrong. If it's an injury that has a history of either diminishing athletic performance and/or injury recurrence, it will drop him a bit.

Like what?

Agamemnon
10-22-2011, 06:49 PM
Like what?

Certain serious ligament tears come to mind...

spdirty
10-22-2011, 07:07 PM
Certain serious ligament tears come to mind...

If Luck has an injury that forces him to miss a full NFL season but he is expected to make a full recovery he'd still be number 1.

Agamemnon
10-22-2011, 07:14 PM
If Luck has an injury that forces him to miss a full NFL season but he is expected to make a full recovery he'd still be number 1.

Not a chance.

AlphaSeirra
10-23-2011, 10:03 AM
Let's (for a much needed change) just look at what those genius scouts actually know.
What they claimed would happen, as opposed to what actually did happen.

Scout CLAIM: Tebow will never be able to run the ball against big fast NFL defenses, like he did in the SEC.
No QB can run it like that in the NFL without getting KILLED, only in college.

Tebow at UF - 4 Year Career 4.3 ypc with 57 TD's

Tebow as a 2010 NFL Rookie - 43 for 227 yds, 5.3 ypc ypc with 6 TD's, Long 40 yds, 2 runs of 20+ yds.

Tebow preseason 2011 - 8 for 55 yds, 6.9 ypc, ZERO lost poss fumbles.

Tebow 2011 regular season - 1 for 6 yds 6.0 ypc with a TD.

>>> That looks to me like those 'genius' scouts could not have been much more WRONG!
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Scout CLAIM: Tebow has a weak and inaccurate arm.

Tim has made a total of 92 pass attempts with a total of 6 TD's to just 3 Ints.
Weak = 16.3 yds/comp.
Inaccurate = 84.2 NFL Career PER (getting better 2010 = 82.1)
* Coming in Cold in 2nd half, 2011 = 101.7 PER
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Scout CLAIM: Can't take a snap or make a smooth handoff:

On the 142 plays that Tim has had as a Bronco in the 2010/11 seasons:
>>> ZERO lost poss fumbles. <<<
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But hey, keep on listening to the media morons and taking some scout CLAIMS as gospel,
you and they can't get much DUMBER and/or be more WRONG imoho..... :wave:
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For a 'FAIR' and 'UNBIASED' comparison:
This guy is supposedly a GREAT #1 Pick still, after his 21 NFL starts.
Currently 'INJURED' out and unavailable.

786 Career Pass plays = 21 TD's with 17 Ints, -- 14 Fumbles, 6 Lost poss.

PER 2010 = 76.5
PER 2011 = 72.2
Career PER = 75.4

36 Career Run plays = 2.4 ypc, 1 TD.

That's the #1 Pick, S.Bradford's actual NFL.com stats career stats.
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Lastly, without using the stupid media morons or the 'dumber than dirt' scout OPINION'S, show me how & why:
Luck is a better college QB than Tebow was,
AND,
why you believe that he will do better in the NFL than Tebow has managed to do while getting little to no help?

Go ahead, anyone, have at it, I'm looking forward to learning..... :approve:
(if you're just going to bs, that's fine too, but at least own up to it for a change)

maven
10-23-2011, 01:35 PM
Looks like the Broncos will be in the suck for luck sweepstakes. Will update records later today.

randomtask
10-23-2011, 01:38 PM
Looks like the Broncos will be in the suck for luck sweepstakes. Will update records later today.

Yup. This was one of the most disappointing games I've watched.

bendog
10-23-2011, 01:38 PM
Damn Orton for playing well enough to win v Cinny.

SJ Bronco
10-23-2011, 02:42 PM
We are officially out of the Luck sweepstakes gentleman. Might as well start getting used to that. We could get David DeCastro however.

Old Dude
10-23-2011, 02:47 PM
Screw Luck. Let's just build the kind of dominating defense that can keep Tebow within range at the end of the game.

SJ Bronco
10-23-2011, 02:48 PM
Screw Luck. Let's just build the kind of dominating defense that can keep Tebow within range at the end of the game.

OR...and this is just a thought, Get him some Oline help. I'm crazy like that.

DENVERDUI55
10-24-2011, 09:01 AM
Not a chance.
Not a chance he isn't number 1 pick. Bradford did it while getting hurt early in senior year and is half prospect luck is. Miami game was a must lose to get luck. Our best chance is rams getting pick and trading with them.

DENVERDUI55
10-30-2011, 05:26 PM
Tebow is dog shiat. Too bad we won last week and that Miami couldn't of won today. Our only hope is colts trade up which won't happen.

oubronco
10-30-2011, 05:28 PM
Don't worry we got this

snowspot66
10-30-2011, 05:34 PM
Don't worry we got this

Are you serious? We would need Miami and Indianapolis to win three games each. At the very least they would have to win two each and have the Rams lose out for us to have a shot at trading for the #1. We won't be getting Luck.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-30-2011, 06:21 PM
Too bad Tebow had to do his "thang" last week and screw you all out of Luck.

I doubt you win another game.

bombay
10-30-2011, 06:27 PM
Tebow definitely needs to start for the rest of the season.

Rohirrim
10-30-2011, 06:30 PM
Screw Luck. Let's just build the kind of dominating defense that can keep Tebow within range at the end of the game.

Broncos? Defense? Ha! Good one.

enjolras
10-30-2011, 06:39 PM
This sucks... there really is no chance we'll grab the first pick. We're going to lose almost any draft tie-breaker thanks to our really tough schedule.

maven
11-01-2011, 11:51 AM
This sucks... there really is no chance we'll grab the first pick. We're going to lose almost any draft tie-breaker thanks to our really tough schedule.

The Rams winning hurt. There's still a chance Indy/Miami might win a couple of games vaulting stl back to the top.

bendog
11-01-2011, 11:55 AM
Tyler Green has all the tools, and not much experience, but he plays in a pro style offense
He can come out in 2012

elsid13
11-01-2011, 02:57 PM
Tyler Green has all the tools, and not much experience, but he plays in a pro style offense
He can come out in 2012

Do you mean Tyler Wilson? QB for Arkansas

bendog
11-01-2011, 03:08 PM
Do you mean Tyler Wilson? QB for Arkansas

Yes. Wrong sport, freudian slip.

Common wisdom is he stays because he's only started one year, but he's having a solid season

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/382642/tyler-wilson

Tenn has a young qb too, but he's a year behind and is out with a broken thumb. Tenn is starting a Simms ... who typically sucks.

I dunno but that kid has the whole package