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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 04:37 PM
The War on Terror is a Fraud
A decade of war started, and both fueled & fought by the same corporate-financier interests.
by Tony Cartalucci
From the beginning, even for those wanting to believe the fairy tale that 9/11 was carried out by cave dwellers carrying box cutters directed by Osama Bin Laden, who by all accounts was dying or already dead from kidney failure in 2001 - "unfortunate blunders" in US foreign policy can still be blamed for the creation and perpetuation of the ubiquitous, unceasing terror organization known as Al Qaeda. However, in light of recent events in Libya, Syria, Iran, and Algeria, there is exposed a truth, many have known for over 10 years, and many more are catching onto now - that the "War on Terror" is an absolute fraud, started, fueled and simultaneously fought against by the same handful of corporate-financier interests for the sole purpose of spreading Wall Street and London's hegemony across the globe.
Inception: Al Qaeda Made in USA
By all accounts, including admissions by former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski (http://www.thenation.com/article/blowback-prequel), Osama Bin Laden's organization that would become Al Qaeda was created during the Soviet-Afghan war in in the late 70's and throughout the 80's. The funding of these militants did not begin after the Soviet invasion, but actually several years before the invasion. US intervention in Afghanistan by training and arming Afghanistan's Mujaheddin, along with Osama Bin Laden's Arab fighters, is one of the leading factors that led to the murderous and protracted decade-long war, according to the Nation in an article titled, "Blowback, the Prequel (http://www.thenation.com/article/blowback-prequel)."
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z0rz4CoWZ68/Tmop86L2IzI/AAAAAAAAA2w/heGbzNK7OZk/s400/ZbigniewBinLaden.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z0rz4CoWZ68/Tmop86L2IzI/AAAAAAAAA2w/heGbzNK7OZk/s1600/ZbigniewBinLaden.jpg)Photo: Former US National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski meeting with Osama Bin Laden, then leading the CIA's Arab legionaries in Afghanistan. Bin Laden's Al Qaeda would later spin off into regional terrorist organizations, covertly armed, trained, and protected by the CIA to this day, including LIFG in Libya, MEK in Iraq and Iran, and Baluchi terrorists in Pakistan.
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Bin Laden's Al Qaeda would continue to fight after the Soviets were expelled from Afghanistan, this time in Kosovo's bid for independence from Serbia in the late 1990's. Al Qaeda-trained Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) (http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/VIN204A.html) militants garnered a Serbian response which was then used by NATO as a pretext for intervention. NATO's entry into the war led to the eventual carving up of the nation. Again, the CIA was found to be propping up Bin Laden's terrorist legionaries (http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BEH502A.html). Serbia's president, Slobodan Milošević would later be removed from power by yet another arm of American interventionism, the National Endowment for Democracy via Optor (http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20001126mag-serbia.html), now known as the infamous CANVAS organization (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/06/fake-revolutions.html) which, with US funding, trained activists ahead of the now admittedly US-engineered "Arab Spring (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/04/official-arab-spring-subversion-us.html)."
Despite Al Qaeda quickly becoming America's arch enemy, filling the void left by a collapsed Soviet Union, and justifying America's continued absurd defense spending as well as its enormous tactical holdings overseas throughout the 90's, it appears the organization was still very much a vehicle carrying forward US foreign policy. And despite accusations that it was a terrorist organization, it continued receiving covert support from US and British intelligence agencies, as did many other extremist groups which eventually were integrated with Al Qaeda after September 11, 2001.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 04:39 PM
From Heroes to Villains, and Back Again
In the 80's when the CIA was fueling Afghanistan's decade-long war with the Soviet Union, in part provoked by US meddling in the region years before the invasion even took place, the Mujaheddin were portrayed as heroes and freedom fighters quite publicly. No better example can be cited of how this image was nurtured by the West's massive propaganda machine than Hollywood's Rambo III, an entire movie literally dedicated to the "gallant people of Afghanistan." Many of those that fought in Afghanistan, particularly foreign fighters armed, trained, and brought in by the CIA, would go on to become some of the world's most notorious terrorist groups, many of which are listed to this day on the US and UK foreign terrorist organization lists.
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Image: (Top) Rambo meets the Afghan Mujaheddin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqWjJdXKIXA), who aid him in his heroic exploits. These people would later fight US invaders after expelling the Soviets. (Bottom) The credits for Rambo III (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ENX7VZz78c) begin with this dedication to the "gallant people of Afghanistan." Throughout the film, the Mujaheddin are depicted as "freedom fighters" much in the same light as the current Libyan rebels are. In short time, these "gallant" "freedom fighters" would become America's arch enemies and the subject of a 10 year occupation that is still ongoing. More recently, Rambo IV featured Myanmar - still called "Burma" by neo-imperialists - and was used in a similar manner to portray an entire nation as the US State Department saw fit. The film is being used (http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/index.php/news-and-reports/news-stories/Rambo-Draws-World-Attention-to-Forgotten-Crisis-in-Burma) by US-backed youth group "Generation Wave (http://aseanyouthmovement.org/2010/03/08/more-on-generation-wave/)" as propaganda, just as the US State Department intended.
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These CIA-fostered terrorist groups include the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), which was created in Afghanistan with Libyan militants previously armed and trained by the CIA (http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field%28DOCID+ly0114%29) to overthrow Qaddafi in the early 1980's. After Afghanistan, and several failed attempts to seize Libya by force, these fighters would filter back into Afghanistan to fight US troops who were now invading the "gallant people of Afghanistan." This time, the Afghans were no longer "gallant," but rather medieval savages in need of Western democracy and UN sanctioned nation-building. The Libyans for their part would continue fighting the US in Afghanistan, and when the US invaded Iraq in 2003, they would begin fighting US troops there as well. This is of course, all according to a report from the West Point Combating Terror Center (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/09/west-point-terror-center-confirms-al.html).
And even as US forces occupy Afghanistan for their tenth year, with fighting reaching unprecedented levels of violence, Afghanistan's LIFG Libyan cohorts are receiving US and British air support, Frenc (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/29/nato-review-libya-france-arming-rebels)h (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/29/nato-review-libya-france-arming-rebels) and Qatari (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/14/libya-rebels-weapons-qatar) arms, billions in aid, NATO special forces assistance (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/08/intelligence-outfit-foreign-special.html), and full diplomatic recognition by the US State Department and the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, as they rise up against Qaddafi in Libya. It must be noted that these Libyan rebels, who like the Afghan Mujahedin were portrayed as "freedom fighters," are in fact led and consist almost entirely of LIFG militants, many of whom have spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan killing US troops. It should be noted that LIFG is listed by the US Stated Department (#26 (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm)) and the UK Home Office (http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/counter-terrorism/proscribed-terror-groups/proscribed-groups?view=Binary) as a foreign terrorist organization.
This is a narrative that first saw these militants as heroes, then the world's most scorned villains for nearly a decade of war, before emerging out the other side once again as heroes. For the thousands of US troops who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan, the tens of thousands maimed, and the hundreds of millions of Americans facing a bankrupted nation that has paid trillions for this "War on Terror" to unproportionately wealthy mega-corporations and banks, it is becoming clear that they were taken for a ride by a shadowy elite with an obscure agenda masked in a now unraveling veil of lies.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 04:41 PM
The War on Terror is Actively Kept Alive by the West
In Libya, Qaddafi has fought for nearly three decades to crush the extremist militants of Libya's eastern region, centered on the cities of Darnah and the current epicenter of the NATO-backed rebellion, Benghazi. This eastern region is considered, according to West Point's CTC report (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/09/west-point-terror-center-confirms-al.html), as one of the highest concentrations of terrorists in the world. It is also a region the CIA and MI6 have helped fund, arm, and train over the same 30 years.
At one point, Qaddafi had almost entirely extinguished the movement, in particular LIFG, most of whose leadership fled, and ironically sought refuge in London, Langley, and Washington. Qaddafi would attempt to re-approach the West by abandoning his WMD programs and inviting Western intelligence agencies in to help counter the remnants of LIFG and other regional terror organizations. The CIA and MI6 instead, rearmed, reorganized, and redirected these terrorist organizations back at the Qaddafi regime culminating in the February 17, 2011 "Day of Rage" and the subsequent NATO intervention. Indeed, the US, UK, France, Qatar, and other NATO member states are overtly deposing Qaddafi in favor for a regime made up of hardcore terrorists.
In other words, a terrorist organization on its death bed, was intentionally brought back to life by NATO. Having done so, LIFG is already shipping weapons to another notorious terrorist organization in the region, Algeria's Al Qaeda in the Islamic Magreb (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8740487/Libya-Algeria-closes-borders-as-row-rages-over-weapons-smuggling.html) (AQIM) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8740487/Libya-Algeria-closes-borders-as-row-rages-over-weapons-smuggling.html) (#37 on US State Department's list of foreign terrorist organizations (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm)). Algeria, like Libya, has fought a long battle against terrorism at the cost of protracted unrest now known as the "lost decade." After a failed attempt at stirring regime change in Algeria through Egyptian-style street protests and internal defections, it appears the US through NATO is attempting to revive AQIM and initiate a violent revolution.
Already, Bruce Riedel (http://www.brookings.edu/experts/riedelb.aspx), a Brookings Institution policy wonk and co-author of the "Which Path to Persia? (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/05/which-path-to-persia-redux.html)" report engineering the use of terrorism to destabilize Iran, is licking his chops over the prospects of Algeria "being next." In a report, aptly titled, "Algeria will be next to fall (http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/algeria-will-be-next-fall-5782)," Riedel sets the rhetorical stage, just as he helped to do with Libya, for another "spontaneous" "indigenous" uprising, with the prospect of NATO, and more specifically, French intervention looming over them. In reality, as we can clearly see, AQIM would not be in any position were it not for NATO arming and handing a neighboring nation to their allies amongst Libya's LIFG.
Similarly in Syria, the Muslim Brotherhood was all but routed by Bashar al-Assad's father, Hafez al-Assad. Now, these militants are receiving covert arms (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/08/evidence-of-us-effort-to-arm-syrian.html), the full support of the Western media's selective journalism (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/08/truth-behind-syrias-unrest.html), and both political and financial support by the US, UK, and EU. Should the West succeed, yet another extremist organization will be reanimated and unleashed on a population that has sacrificed much trying to burying it.
Iran has been fighting a battle against another State Department listed terrorist organization (list as #28) (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm), Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK.) US policy makers, after admitting MEK has the blood of US soldiers and civilians on its hands and that it has "undeniably" conducted terrorist attacks, shockingly wants to remove it from the US foreign terrorist organization list so that it can be worked with more closely in toppling the Iranian government. This is revealed in the Brookings Institution's "Which Path to Persia?" report (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/05/which-path-to-persia-redux.html).
"Potential Ethnic Proxies," page 117-118 (page 130-131 of the PDF (http://www.brookings.edu/%7E/media/files/rc/papers/2009/06_iran_strategy/06_iran_strategy.pdf)): "Perhaps the most prominent (and certainly the most controversial) opposition group that has attracted attention as a potential U.S. proxy is the NCRI (National Council of Resistance of Iran), the political movement established by the MEK (Mujahedin-e Khalq). Critics believe the group to be undemocratic and unpopular, and indeed anti-American.
In contrast, the group’s champions contend that the movement’s long-standing opposition to the Iranian regime and record of successful attacks on and intelligence-gathering operations against the regime make it worthy of U.S. support. They also argue that the group is no longer anti-American and question the merit of earlier accusations. Raymond Tanter, one of the group’s supporters in the United States, contends that the MEK and the NCRI are allies for regime change in Tehran and also act as a useful proxy for gathering intelligence. The MEK’s greatest intelligence coup was the provision of intelligence in 2002 that led to the discovery of a secret site in Iran for enriching uranium.
Despite its defenders’ claims, the MEK remains on the U.S. government list of foreign terrorist organizations. In the 1970s, the group killed three U.S. officers and three civilian contractors in Iran. During the 1979-1980 hostage crisis, the group praised the decision to take America hostages and Elaine Sciolino reported that while group leaders publicly condemned the 9/11 attacks, within the group celebrations were widespread.
Undeniably, the group has conducted terrorist attacks—often excused by the MEK’s advocates because they are directed against the Iranian government. For example, in 1981, the group bombed the headquarters of the Islamic Republic Party, which was then the clerical leadership’s main political organization, killing an estimated 70 senior officials. More recently, the group has claimed credit for over a dozen mortar attacks, assassinations, and other assaults on Iranian civilian and military targets between 1998 and 2001. At the very least, to work more closely with the group (at least in an overt manner), Washington would need to remove it from the list of foreign terrorist organizations."
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It turns out that MEK is already receiving US funding, weapons, and other assistance to conduct a militant campaign against the government of Iran. This was revealed in Seymour Hersh's New Yorker article "Preparing the Battlefield (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh)," which stated:
"The M.E.K. has been on the State Department’s terrorist list for more than a decade, yet in recent years the group has received arms and intelligence, directly or indirectly, from the United States. Some of the newly authorized covert funds, the Pentagon consultant told me, may well end up in M.E.K. coffers. “The new task force will work with the M.E.K. The Administration is desperate for results.” He added, “The M.E.K. has no C.P.A. auditing the books, and its leaders are thought to have been lining their pockets for years. If people only knew what the M.E.K. is getting, and how much is going to its bank accounts—and yet it is almost useless for the purposes the Administration intends.”
Moves have also been made to get MEK de-listed as a terrorist organization (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2011/0811/If-US-removes-Iran-s-MEK-from-list-of-terrorist-organizations-will-it-matter) by the US State Department so that even more aid can be rendered to this admitted terrorist organization. Seymore Hersh in an NPR interview (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92025860), also claims that select MEK members have received training in the US. Also implicated by Hersh in his article, were Kurdish militants straddling the Iranian, Syrian, and Iraqi borders and now wrecking havoc against Syria's Assad regime, and Baluchi militants based along the Iranian-Pakistani border. The Baluchi militants are also being directed toward the Pakistani government (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/05/it-begins-us-starting-baluchi.html) with US assistance.
In each instance, whether it is in Libya, Algeria, Syria, Iran, or Pakistan, immense efforts have been made by these governments to destroy entirely these organizations. In each case, the US purposely arms, trains, and shelters these organizations, with troupes of dissent leaders populating London, Washington, and Langley, Virginia, creating a "rouge's UN" of sorts. Careful observers who check the backgrounds of "experts" brought onto the duplicitous BBC, CNN, or Al Jazeera networks for interviews can see sometimes 2-3 of these exiled extremist leaders at a time being given airtime and dressed up as "freedom fighters." The threat of militant extremism is one the United States government and its allies have been purposefully perpetuating as a pretext for expanding military and economic power into sovereign nation-states disinterested in their Wall Street and London centric "globalization."
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 04:42 PM
War on Terror: President X's War
While many may say the "War on Terror" was Bush's war, a legacy Obama has inherited, it is clear through Obama's "actions" that the war has continued on in earnest, even expanded, following the same path with all but superficial rhetoric affixed to give it a more "progressive' look. The current conflagration in the Middle East and North Africa was planned all the way back in the early 90's with each president since then, rubber stamping the steps necessary to push the plan for a "new Middle East" forward.
It was Bush Sr. who ravaged Iraq and left US troops permanently stationed in the Middle East. Clinton oversaw Al Qaeda's ushering in of NATO intervention in the Kosovo conflict. Bush Jr. of course was in office when Afghanistan and Iraq were invaded and occupied. Now, Obama is overseeing the "Arab Spring" for which activists were trained and bankrolled by the US State Department before he even came into office. He is also overseeing the destruction of Libya, and the destabilization of Syria (for more information, see Globalists Coming Full Circle (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/04/globalists-coming-full-circle.html)).
As the 2012 US election nears, we are confronted with the obvious establishment candidate of choice, Rick Perry, facing off against another 4 years of Obama's servile obedience to the corporate-financier agenda driving American policy. Rick Perry assures us that he will bring change, stating that America "cannot afford four more years of this rudderless leadership." However, in reality, the same US policy makers that have engineered the last 10 years of the global "War on Terror" are already lined up behind Perry to ensure that indeed we do get "four more years of this rudderless leadership."
Foreign Policy recently reported (http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/08/10/rick_perry_the_hawk_internationalist) that warmongering Neo-Conservatives including Douglas Feith, William Luti, Andrew McCarthy, Charles Stimson, and Daniel Fata, with the help of certified warmonger and corporate fascist Donald Rumsfeld, had been introduced to Rick Perry to help him "brush up" on foreign policy. Also meeting with Perry was Dan Blumenthal of the Neo-Con, Fortune 500-funded (http://www.aei.org/docLib/2010-Annual-Report.pdf) AEI, Peter Brookes of the Fortune 500-funded Heritage Foundation (page 35) (http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2010/pdf/2009AnnualReport.pdf), and Zalmay Khalizad, a fellow Neo-Conservative warmonger, PNAC signatory, and a member of the extraterritorial meddling National Endowment for Democracy's (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/02/neo-cons-for-human-rights.html) board of directors, to help Perry define his "hawk internationalist" foreign policy stance.
By "hawk internationalist," Foreign Policy indicates that it means, "embracing American exceptionalism and the unique role we must play in confronting the many threats we face." In actual terms it means embracing more wars, more meddling abroad, and more corporate driven agendas to expand Wall Street and London's financial, military, and economic hegemony worldwide. Perry will simply take what both Bush and Obama have done, affix the appropriate spin, rhetoric, and propaganda, and continue spilling American blood and wasting American treasure. Perry is merely a public relations officer ready to take the heat for the next four years while the real policy makers continue operating out of the sight and mind of the American public.
The "War on Terror" is a Fraud
If Bush, Obama, and Perry are not making decisions, who is? Who are the chief proponents of this "War on Terror," who are the architects behind the policy and who is bankrolling them? More importantly, how can they have spent the last 10 years sending American kids to fight Al Qaeda and now are overtly handing them the nation of Libya?
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies (http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about-fdd/team-overview/) (FDD) is a corporate (http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/FDDdonors.pdf) and US State Department (http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about-fdd/frequently-asked-questions/)-funded policy institute that claims to be dedicated to promoting (http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about-fdd) "pluralism, defending democratic values, and fighting the ideologies that threaten democracy." It is decidedly "Neo-Conservative" and focuses almost exclusively on starting and maintaining wars at America's expense.
FDD's "executive team (http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about-fdd/team-overview/category/executive-team)" includes James Woolsey and Clifford May, while its "leadership council (http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about-fdd/team-overview/category/leadership-council)" includes Bill Kristol - all signatories of a recent Foreign Policy Initiative letter addressed to House Republicans (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/06/pnac-reborn-calling-for-greater-libyan.html) asking them to discard the UN mandate for NATO's Libyan intervention and commit more support specifically for regime change. Acting Senator Joseph Lieberman also can be found on FDD's "leadership council (http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about-fdd/team-overview/category/leadership-council)" and has been a chief proponent of war with Libya, as well as Syria and Iran, alongside John McCain (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/04/warmonger-mccain-in-benghazi.html). FDD has a myriad of publications expressing the elation of the "Neo-Conservative" establishment over current operations against Libya and the possible springboard the Libyan war serves toward US intervention in Syria and Iran. FDD's only criticism of Obama is that more should be done, faster, and at a greater expense to America. Michael Ledeen, a "freedom scholar," expresses this well in his article titled, "Lessons of Libya (and Syria, and, Some Day, Iran) (http://www.defenddemocracy.org/media-hit/lessons-of-libya-and-syria-and-some-day-iran/)," where he throws in his organization's collective desire to intervene in both Syria and Iran, for good measure.
The Atlantic article, "Al-Qaeda Is Winning (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/09/al-qaeda-is-winning/244701/)," written by FDD "senior fellow" Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, expresses the true contempt these individuals have toward their audience. In this piece reflecting on the last 10 years of the "War on Terror," Gartenstein-Ross claims that Al Qaeda's ability to use cheap means to provoke the United States into a multi-billion dollar defense is rendering an Al Qaeda victory through a "strategy of a thousand cuts." Of course, the x-ray machines and other security apparatuses being installed across the United States and the tremendous amount of money being used to sustain combat operations around the world "hunting terrorists," doesn't go into a black hole. Instead, it goes into the pockets of the very people funding the work of Mr. Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and his peers throughout his and other US and British think-tanks.
Other notorious think-tanks promoting the "War on Terror" as well as literally engineering the latest war in Libya, and with extensive blueprints for destabilizing and overthrowing Syria and Iran, include the Brookings Institution mentioned above, the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), and the Atlantic Council covered in depth in "Atlantic Council: Is Libya a "Global Con?" (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/09/atlantic-council-is-libya-global-con.html)" All three are predictably funded, chaired, and directed by the largest banks, oil companies, and defense contractors on earth, as well as their representatives in the corporate-owned media, public relations and law firms, as well as acting corporate board members themselves.
The Brookings Institute who wrote the definitive blueprint for covert destabilization within a foreign sovereign nation, "Which Path to Persia? (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/05/which-path-to-persia-redux.html)" is funded by, among many others, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, the Rothschilds, Citi, Exxon, Chevron, Shell, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, General Electric, Raytheon (makers of the Tomahawk cruise missile used extensively throughout NATO's Libya campaign), and Google (who has already renamed Libya's Green Square to the contrived "Martyr's Square" on Google Maps). One would assume those at Brookings would carry forward with shame and fear with such obvious conflicts of interest muddling their "policy making," instead they are beyond arrogant, bolstered by the ignorance and apathy of the masses. A full list of their corporate sponsors can be found in their 2010 annual report, starting on page 19 (http://www.brookings.edu/%7E/media/Files/about/annualreport/2010/2010_complete.pdf).
Likewise the IISS was instrumental in analyzing, promoting, and guiding NATO's military intervention in Libya as well as maintaining the myth of "global terrorism" and the necessity of continuing the "War on Terror." They too are representatives of some of the largest corporate-financier interests on earth, all of whom have enriched themselves with their self-promoted, unending war, with their board of trustees (http://www.iiss.org/about-us/iiss-governance-and-advisory-structure/the-trustees/) containing current and former representatives from Rothschild, DeBeers, the Anglo American Corporation, Merrill Lynch, Smith Barney and Bankers, Rolls-Royce, Thales, the notorious Council on Foreign Relations, and ABC News.
We have seen how in nearly every case, national governments have attempted to crush Al Qaeda, and in every case the US and UK have propped them up again. We see how each war is explicitly engineered and promoted by the same corporate-financier interests capitalizing on them at everyone else's expense. In the 1930's United States Marine Corps General Smedley Butler stated, "war is a racket (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2010/11/for-veterans-day-usmc-general-butler.html)," and explained that a racket is best described "as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes."
Clearly today, this "racket" has become so advanced, so elaborate, so pervasive in politics and culture, that the label of "racket" doesn't quite suit it. A better term could be a, "scientific dictatorship" where teams of highly trained propagandists, in tandem with the corporate-owned media, including Hollywood, the music industry, publishing houses, and PR firms, all work to manage the public's perception on a global scale. It is both terrifying as it is perhaps overreaching. The "War on Terror" is a fraud, and one that is now unraveling. For every lie that is told, a vast amount of resources must be spent to sell it and continue propping it up. No matter how much is spent, if a mind wakes up to the fraud, it does so permanently. However vast the fraudulent "War on Terror" is, those speaking the truth face a downhill battle now reaching critical mass. Libya is being handed over to terrorists by the same exact people who told our sons and daughters to lay down their lives to fight these very same people. No amount of propaganda, however scientifically formulated, can obfuscate the treason that has taken place.
The next step of course, after speaking out about the truth, is to review the above mentioned corporate-financier interests, represented by corporations and banks we depend on daily, driving this treasonous agenda, and put each one out of business by boycotting (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/04/destroy-globalists.html) and replacing them systematically (http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html). The "War on Terror" is an absolute fraud, fabricated in whole, and it is only our apathy and inaction coupled with our unwitting patronization of these corporate-financier interests that allows this fraud to continue on.
Meck77
09-11-2011, 05:05 PM
You approved this fraud by voting for Obama. Good job.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:20 PM
I approved this fraud by voting for Bush. Good job.
Fixed.
Meck77
09-11-2011, 05:26 PM
I never voted for Bush. Sorry bud.
Doesn't really matter. What matters now is Obama/democrats are the frauds in charge.
You thought you were voting for change. You were wrong.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:30 PM
I never voted for Bush.
Hilarious!
Just like you were never a republican but always an independent, eh?
Watching you guys try to distance yourselves from your boy and his record is all too funny! :D
Meck77
09-11-2011, 05:33 PM
I support Ron Paul. A republican. What is your point? You voted for Obama. A fraud. You are responsible for what is going on right now.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:34 PM
You thought you were voting for change. You were wrong.
I was the guy who said Obama wasn't that far to the left of his GOP opponents during the run-up to the election.
Your right-wing pals said he was a "socialist."
But don't let the facts interfere with your straw man construction.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:35 PM
I support Ron Paul. A republican. What is your point? You voted for Obama. A fraud. You are responsible for what is going on right now.
You supported Bush during the Smirking Sociopath's reign.
Why distance yourself from your own history?
Meck77
09-11-2011, 05:36 PM
Dude you voted for Obama. Why distance yourself from the present?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:37 PM
You voted for Obama. A fraud.
It was either Obama or something infinitely more horrible, i.e., the possibility of a Bible Barbie presidency.
But if you want to throw your vote away on a candidate who has no chance, then knock yourself out.
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 05:39 PM
One simple google of Tony Cartalucci tells the whole story.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:41 PM
One simple google of Tony Cartalucci tells the whole story.
We can always count on you for the elementary school "attack the messenger" "rebuttal."
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 05:42 PM
Knew we could count on you for the elementary school "attack the messenger" "rebuttal."
Even elementary school students can use google ( its not rocket science) and son you're no messenger ( you're a clown)
mhgaffney
09-11-2011, 05:42 PM
Both Meck and LABN are in agreement!
Come on, guys. The issue before us - is what to do now. This is the most important question.
The disinfo apparatus and corporate media work to keep us divided. I believe that 9/11 is the key -- to healing the nation because it cuts across all party boundaries.
The lesson is that our political culture is being controlled by a group of powerful men -- the bankers, industrialists, oil tycoons, necons and even neo libs.
They are the financial elite -- the new plutocracy that was greatly empowered by the 2008 bail out. They now have the cash -- which at least potentially gives them the power to shape the future of this country for the next 50-100 years. Will they succeed?
That depends on us -- what we do in the coming days. Or what we fail to do...
MHG
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 05:46 PM
Both Meck and LABN are in agreement!
Come on, guys. The issue before us - is what to do now. This is the most important question.
The disinfo apparatus and corporate media work to keep us divided. I believe that 9/11 is the key -- to healing the nation because it cuts across all party boundaries.
The lesson is that our political culture is being controlled by a group of powerful men -- the bankers, industrialists, oil tycoons, necons and even neo libs.
The enemy is the financial elite -- the new plutocracy that was greatly empowered by the 2008 bail out. They now have the cash -- which at l;east potentially gives them the power to shape the future of this country for the next 50-100 years. Will they suceed?
That depends on us -- what we do in the coming days. Or what we fail to do...
MHG
Until we the people are given true presidential candidates and not career politician yes men ( we are ******) we the people need to quit pretending ( its going to be different this time) and do something.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:47 PM
Even elementary school students can use google ( its not rocket science) and son you're no messenger ( you're a clown)
The messenger, in this case, is the author of the article, genius. :wave:
(You know - that guy whose factual assertions you have failed to challenge?)
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 05:47 PM
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2235/procra.jpg
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 05:48 PM
The messenger, in this case, is the author of the article, genius. :wave:
(You know - that guy whose factual assertions you have failed to challenge?)
Factual or opinion? i rest my case....
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:48 PM
Until we the people are given true presidential candidates and not career politician yes men ( we are ******) we the people need to quit pretending ( its going to be different this time) and do something.
This coming from a guy who just dismissed the entire OP out of hand?
Too funny!
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 05:49 PM
This coming from a guy who just dismissed the entire OP out of hand?
Too funny!
You're like talking to a cinder block.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:50 PM
Factual or opinion? i rest my case....
It's painfully obvious you don't know the difference.
Case?
You had a case?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 05:51 PM
You're like talking to a cinder block.
This from a guy who, in one breath, dismisses the article out of hand, and in the next breath says "we're f_cked?"
Keep the laughs coming! Ha!
Obushma
09-11-2011, 05:58 PM
Good post LABF. So I take it you'll be supporting the presidential candidate who has been talking about this for 30+ years?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 06:00 PM
Good post LABF. So I take it you'll be supporting the presidential candidate who has been talking about this for 30+ years?
Talk is cheap.
Some of Paul's ideas are right on target - others are just crazy.
Obushma
09-11-2011, 06:06 PM
Talk is cheap.
Some of Paul's ideas are right on target - others are just crazy.
Crazy because it's the people you're trying to expose in this thread, who are calling Paul crazy. Don't be stupid, you're smarter then that.
mhgaffney
09-11-2011, 06:09 PM
IMO Ron Paul is the only serious candidate for one and one reason only -- he is calling for an audit of the fed.
That is the most important issue -- at the moment. It's why they have sidelined him.
This needs to be a one issue race. Because this is the litmus test for whether a candidate is serious.
None of the other candidates have stepped up -- so far.
In recent months I've been investigating the big NY banks. They are all corrupt to the core. The biggest fish were complicit on 9/11 -- and they will stop at nothing to maintain and increase their control over the country.
Ron Paul is on the right path with his call for an audit. If it ever happened -- it would expose so much rot that the people would become incensed. We'd have rioting in the streets if the people ever found out how bad it is.
But we also need to audit the Bank of NY, Deutschbank, CitiGroup, Wells Fargo, BoA, Chase Manhattan, Goldman Sachs, etc
We will never get the full story about 9/11 without an audit of the big banks.
But don't stop there. We also need to audit the CIA. A rue audit would reveal numerous black operations for which there is no congressionally appropriated $. The question would become - how did the CIA fund these projects?
The truth is worst than your worst nightmare.
epicSocialism4tw
09-11-2011, 06:13 PM
You're like talking to a cinder block.
He's like talking to a spambot. Ha!
Obushma
09-11-2011, 06:16 PM
Economics and our Foreign Policy are intertwined, Paul is the only person whos explaining that. It's nice to have an Austrian perspective.
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 06:16 PM
Crazy because it's the people you're trying to expose in this thread, who are calling Paul crazy. Don't be stupid, you're smarter then that.
Not at all.
I agree with everything Paul would do to stick a shiv in those people.
What I don't agree with are his positions on domestic policy (which would stick a shiv in the most vulnerable members of society.)
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 06:17 PM
He's like talking to a spambot. Ha!
Don't interrupt when grownups are speaking, EpicBeckImpersonator.
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 06:18 PM
It's painfully obvious you don't know the difference.
Case?
You had a case?
you have a problem believing every left wing article you read ( thats the problem)
Obushma
09-11-2011, 06:20 PM
.
What I don't agree with are his positions on domestic policy (which would stick a shiv in the most vulnerable members of society.)
I can respect that, you've grown up with entitlements your whole life, it's hard to let go. What I can do is guarantee you that there is no way for Ron Paul to end those entitlements in eight years, he would just try and educate people to slowly let them go.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 06:21 PM
I can respect that, you've grown up with entitlements your whole life, it's hard to let go.
You were almost starting to sound sane until this straw man.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 06:24 PM
you have a problem believing every left wing article you read ( thats the problem)
You have a problem with actually attempting a rebuttal vs. simply engaging in "attack the messenger."
It's no wonder the criminals exposed in the article are having their way when unthinking sheep like you look the other way for them.
epicSocialism4tw
09-11-2011, 06:28 PM
Don't interrupt when grownups are speaking, EpicBeckImpersonator.
Ah yes...the adults speaking of radical conspiracy theories. Ha!
You must be referring to the adults around your table there in your mentally ill group home.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 06:35 PM
Ah yes...the adults speaking of radical conspiracy theories.
EpicBeckster waves the white flag with the elementary school "rebuttal."
So intellectually lazy and dishonest is EpicBeckster he can't challenge a single claim in the OP.
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 07:00 PM
You have a problem with actually attempting a rebuttal vs. simply engaging in "attack the messenger."
It's no wonder the criminals exposed in the article are having their way when unthinking sheep like you look the other way for them.
What is there to rebuttal? its a trash article that speaks from one end ( thats why you posted it) plus any rebuttal turns into a cluster **** when you're involved ( you never learn or you dont care to learn) like i said before you're a cinder block why waste the time going back and forth ( it will change nothing).
broncocalijohn
09-11-2011, 07:22 PM
You're like talking to a cinder block.
Only if the cinder block got graffitied and has cute cartoon characters on it. (Well, LA did give us the whole story in 4 posts without pics).
barryr
09-11-2011, 07:45 PM
Maybe Obama can pry himself away from the golf course or postpone his next monthly vacation to figure out again why we still have troops in Afghanistan.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 08:16 PM
What is there to rebuttal? its a trash article that speaks from one end ( thats why you posted it) plus any rebuttal turns into a cluster **** when you're involved ( you never learn or you dont care to learn) like i said before you're a cinder block why waste the time going back and forth ( it will change nothing).
LMAO @ you thinking your elementary school name-calling actually constitutes some sort of refutation of the claims, factual assertions, and conclusions in the article.
You dismiss an entire article out of hand as "trash" - yet you can't cite even one statement in the article that's inaccurate or false in your estimation.
Why not just admit that you're simply too intellectually lazy or ill-equipped for the task?
It's not like you haven't made this perfectly obvious already.
epicSocialism4tw
09-11-2011, 08:17 PM
LMAO @ you thinking your elementary school name-calling actually constitutes some sort of refutation of the claims, factual assertions, and conclusions in the article.
You dismiss an entire article out of hand as "trash" - yet you can't cite even one statement in the article that's inaccurate or false in your estimation.
Why not just admit that you're simply too intellectually lazy or ill-equipped for the task?
It's not like you haven't made this perfectly obvious already.
http://cdn.blogs.sheknows.com/babybanter.sheknows.com/2011/03/spambot.png
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 08:22 PM
http://cdn.blogs.sheknows.com/babybanter.sheknows.com/2011/03/spambot.png
Speaking of rebuttals and the lack thereof, there goes EpicBeckImpersonator waving the white flag again.
BTW, the idea of a guy who starts a dozen new hyperbolic, right-wing circle jerk threads per day taking someone else to task about "spam" is priceless! :D
Bronx33
09-11-2011, 08:25 PM
The F**** guy uses rambo movies as examples how intellectual does one need to be?
broncocalijohn
09-11-2011, 08:25 PM
^ I agree. LABF with his left wing spam, Epic with his right wing spam and Gaffney with his own crazy **** spam that occasionally sucks in LABF and a couple other wack jobs in on his side.
epicSocialism4tw
09-11-2011, 08:25 PM
Speaking of rebuttals and the lack thereof, there goes EpicBeckImpersonator waving the white flag again.
BTW, the idea of a guy who starts a dozen new hyperbolic, right-wing circle jerk threads per day taking someone else to task about "spam" is priceless! :D
http://piptol.qbasicnews.com/images/spambot.jpg
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 08:29 PM
The ***** guy uses rambo movies as examples how intellectual does one need to be?
No surprise that you would only notice that part.Ha!
No wonder you never fail to respond to cartoons, but anything else, not so much.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 08:31 PM
^ I agree. LABF with his left wing spam, Epic with his right wing spam and Gaffney with his own crazy **** spam that occasionally sucks in LABF and a couple other wack jobs in on his side.
*Yawn*
The way you and your fellow unthinking sheep on the right use the term "spam" has diluted the true sense of the word.
You use the word to refer to anything you disagree with.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 08:41 PM
http://piptol.qbasicnews.com/images/spambot.jpg
Let's see...
Number of new threads started so far this month...
LABF: 2
EpicBeckImpersonator: 13
Ooops!
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 08:55 PM
Maybe Obama can pry himself away from the golf course or postpone his next monthly vacation to figure out again why we still have troops in Afghanistan.
Cognitive dissonance, barryr style:
1) Under President Bush: The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are justified and necessary in the "Global War of Terror," and anyone who disagrees is a traitor who hates America.
2) Under President Obama: "When is that (insert 'N' bomb) going to end the war?"
epicSocialism4tw
09-11-2011, 08:56 PM
Let's see...
Number of new threads started so far this month...
LABF: 2
EpicBeckImpersonator: 13
!
Number of threads started with specious information from garbage far left misinformation dispensaries: 2
Number of threads started by epicSocialism4tw from accepted, commonly used news outlets: 13
epicSocialism4tw
09-11-2011, 08:57 PM
Cognitive dissonance, barryr style:
1) Under President Bush: The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are justified and necessary in the "Global War of Terror," and anyone who disagrees is a traitor who hates America.
2) Under President Obama: "When is that (insert 'N' bomb) going to end the war?"
^ TroofClown in action. Ha!
broncocalijohn
09-11-2011, 09:01 PM
*Yawn*
The way you and your fellow unthinking sheep on the right use the term "spam" has diluted the true sense of the word.
You use the word to refer to anything you disagree with.
So I guess you just see where your name pops up and responds. I stated all spammers; You, Epic and Gaffney. You guys come here with your agenda and make threads for your cause. At least Drama Llama has football takes at a football board.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 09:07 PM
Number of threads started with specious information from garbage far left misinformation dispensaries: 2
You have yet to identify even one statement in the OP which, in your estimation, is "specious."
Thanks for waving the white flag again.
Number of threads started by epicSocialism4tw from accepted, commonly used news outlets: 13
Leave it to epicSpammer to equate "commonly used" with "truthful."
Were there anything to this equation, then Fox News would have an unimpeachable rep.
In any event, EpicSpammer misses the point (which had to do with the sheer number of spam threads he creates.)
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 09:10 PM
You guys come here with your agenda and make threads for your cause.
Wow - you mean folks actually do that sort of thing on a political discussion forum which exists for that precise purpose?
Oh, the humanity! :D
broncocalijohn
09-11-2011, 09:19 PM
Wow - you mean folks actually do that sort of thing on a political discussion forum which exists for that precise purpose?
Oh, the humanity! :D
Call it what you will but you have your agenda and it is like a job for you. I am sure this is one of many boards that you frequent for political reasons. You are obviously not here for football. When we canned Shanny and McDaniels, not one post by you but we could find posts at those times in the war forum. That is why I label you a spammer. Find a thread to your liking and get the talking points ready to link away at the Mane. Not sure why you would deny your existence here.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 09:24 PM
Call it what you will but you have your agenda and it is like a job for you. I am sure this is one of many boards that you frequent for political reasons. You are obviously not here for football. When we canned Shanny and McDaniels, not one post by you but we could find posts at those times in the war forum. That is why I label you a spammer. Find a thread to your liking and get the talking points ready to link away at the Mane. Not sure why you would deny your existence here.
I must say, when it comes to deflection, you are a past master.
You're really throwing everything but the kitchen sink at me in an effort to avoid any discussion of the article I posted.
Changing the subject to football while you're on a political forum was a nice touch.
Of course, this is nothing new where you're concerned: you've always been a loyal trooper for the people who are under attack in the article.
broncocalijohn
09-11-2011, 09:49 PM
I never acted like I was discussing the article to begin with. I commented on a post where I thought it was ironic since most would label you, Epic and Gaffney as Spammers. I am conservative but I know what all sides are doing here including Epic/Drama Llama. I call it as I see it. You rarely call out your own.
IChanging the subject to football while you're on a political forum was a nice touch.
Where else could I bring it up. You are never on the football forum !Hilarious! If I need to find LABF, it is at the political forums on a football site.
mhgaffney
09-11-2011, 10:05 PM
Call it what you will but you have your agenda and it is like a job for you. I am sure this is one of many boards that you frequent for political reasons. You are obviously not here for football. When we canned Shanny and McDaniels, not one post by you but we could find posts at those times in the war forum. That is why I label you a spammer. Find a thread to your liking and get the talking points ready to link away at the Mane. Not sure why you would deny your existence here.
Fortunately, your opinion carries as much weight as piss in the wind.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2011, 10:42 PM
I never acted like I was discussing the article to begin with.
Which, by your own definition, makes you a spammer.
You're not here to discuss the topic - you're only here to derail the thread.
mosca
09-12-2011, 12:38 PM
Talk is cheap.
Some of Paul's ideas are right on target - others are just crazy.
This is just about the only argument I keep hearing from anyone when they explain why they won't vote for Paul - even though he has the most valid positions on the most important issues in this election.
You don't have to support all of the guy's views - just realize that he's standing up for what matters when no other major politicans (except maybe Bernie Sanders) are.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-12-2011, 06:11 PM
This is just about the only argument I keep hearing from anyone when they explain why they won't vote for Paul - even though he has the most valid positions on the most important issues in this election.
You don't have to support all of the guy's views - just realize that he's standing up for what matters when no other major politicans (except maybe Bernie Sanders) are.
I wish Sanders would run. He's the best man for the job, IMO.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-13-2011, 04:45 AM
Honoring 9-11: Time to audit the CIA’s incestuous relationship with Al Qaeda
Is it true that America’s Central Intelligence Agency pretty much invented, trained and funded al-Qaeda back in the days of Charlie Wilson’s secret war on Afghanistan? Or is that just another urban legend? According to BBC News, “…Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia in 1979 to fight against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The Afghan jihad was backed with American dollars and had the blessing of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. received security training from the CIA itself.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/155236.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/155236.stm). And apparently Bin Laden received approximately three billion dollars in venture capital start-up funds from the CIA.
How come the CIA never gave three billion dollars to me? Ain’t I more deserving and lovable than OBL? Humph.
Is it really true that there was NO al-Qaeda in Iraq until good old Shock and Awe gave birth to it — as a deadly branch off the CIA-created al-Qaeda tree? Or is that just another urban legend?
According to Reuters, the CIA recently stated that as of June 2011 [B]there are currently still 1,000 al-Qaeda operatives now in Iraq — even after eight long years of deadly warfare, possibly a million people killed and over a trillion dollars spent. http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/06/09/idINIndia-57605920110609
But how many al-Qaeda operatives were there in Iraq before Shock and Awe and the CIA and Paul Bremer worked their magic? There were ZERO al-Qaeda operatives in Iraq before 2003, according to recent Pentagon reports released to CNN. Zero, zilch, nada. http://articles.cnn.com/2008-03-13/us/alqaeda.saddam_1_qaeda-targets-of-iraqi-state-iraqi-state-terror-operations?_s=PM:US (http://articles.cnn.com/2008-03-13/us/alqaeda.saddam_1_qaeda-targets-of-iraqi-state-iraqi-state-terror-operations?_s=PM:US) We spent over a trillion dollars to put al-Qaeda into Iraq? Why that’s approximately three million per operative! Good job, CIA.
Then last spring Americans started hearing rumors that the “rebels” in Libya were not only CIA-created but also comprised of Al-Qaeda-connected operatives as well. Or is that just another urban legend too?
According to a recent article in Global Research, “Some 1500 jihadists from Afghanistan trained by the CIA were dispatched to fight with the ‘pro-democracy’ rebels under the helm of ‘former’ Libya Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) Commander Abdel Hakim Belhadj.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26351
According to Pepe Escobar of the Asian Times, Abdel Hakim Belhadj is a known al-Qaeda asset. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs0DPb8d-Yg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs0DPb8d-Yg)
And now we are getting intimations that the CIA and al-Qaeda are working together in Syria too. According to Global Research, ibid., “The Libyan model of rebel forces integrated by the Islamic brigades together with NATO special forces is slated to be applied in Syria, where Islamist fighters supported by Western and Israeli intelligence have already been deployed.” The CIA and al-Qaeda are now bonding in Syria too? Or perhaps that is just another urban legend?
We have also been told that al-Qaeda was responsible for the the destruction of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. Or is that another urban legend as well.
According to an FBI wanted poster, OBL has never been sought in connection with the bombing of the World Trade Center http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden (http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden). And Osama himself denied any connection to this terrible disaster until four years after the fact, perhaps hoping to buzz up his sagging terrorist image in the press? So that he wouldn’t have to just sit all alone in his lonely hidey-hole in Abbottabad, watching past promo triumphs of himself from back in the day.
According to an interview with al-Qaeda’s top guy dated September 28, 2001, OBL had stated, “I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act.” http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html (http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html)
Are we actually supposed to believe Osama? Hell no. But that’s what he said. And if al-Qaeda really was responsible for 9-11, you would at least expect them to be doing a chicken dance. And you would definitely expect an apology from the CIA for being a parent to these nasty kids.
But let’s assume that al-Qaeda was responsible for 9-11 (and not Dick Cheney — who actually did have means, motive and opportunity). If so, then the CIA is still on the hook.
According to an article from ThinkProgress.org, “Former Clinton and Bush White House top counter-terrorism adviser Richard Clarke alleges in an interview for a radio documentary commemorating the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks that then-CIA director George Tenet and other top CIA officials withheld intelligence on two al Qaeda operatives living in the United States that ended up taking part in the attacks.” http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/12/294748/clarke-cia-withheld-intel-cover-up/
We have been told again and again and again that al-Qaeda members are the BAD GUYS. Yet here, apparently, is America’s own CIA, intimately linked and tied to these Bad Guys again and again and again. And some fairly cogent proof has been offered again and again and again that these rumors are true. And yet NO ONE in America seems to questioning what is going on here? Huh?
In honor of the sad tenth anniversary of 9-11, as patriotic America citizens who love our country and resent like Hell having had it attacked — in light of these circumstances, do we not OWE it to ourselves and our fallen fellow citizens to freaking investigate and AUDIT the CIA — and its alleged incestuous relations with al-Qaeda, aka The Bad Guys?
Isn’t that the least we can do?
Or was 9-11 just another urban legend as well?
PS: And what would be the CIA’s motivation for lying down with dogs and getting up with fleas all these times (at the cost of millions of lives, including many of our own)? Here are two clues:
Today’s quote from my Franklin Planner sez, “There’s enough in the world for everyone’s need, but not enough for everyone’s greed.” Greed.
Greed appears to be the top motivator for the CIA — not love of country.
And here’s a headline from an article by Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Chris Hedges that pretty much spells out the CIA’s “modus operandi” in black and white (or at least in pixels): “America to the World: We want Everything — If You Stand in the Way we’ll Kill You.”http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/12/294748/clarke-cia-withheld-intel-cover-up/
Actually it’s not we Americans who are saying that. 99.9% of us don’t in any way benefit from any of this pillaging and killing. Only corporatists benefit — corporatists and their enforcer, the CIA. The rest of us appear to be merely zombies, cats-paws, victims and suckers. http://www.cracked.com/article_19402_6-mind-blowing-ways-zombies-vampires-explain-america_p2.html
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-13-2011, 04:47 AM
This is just about the only argument I keep hearing from anyone when they explain why they won't vote for Paul - even though he has the most valid positions on the most important issues in this election.
You don't have to support all of the guy's views - just realize that he's standing up for what matters when no other major politicans (except maybe Bernie Sanders) are.
Sure, he’s got some good ideas - ending our dumb wars, stopping illegal spying on Americans, etc., - but it comes wrapped in a lot of raging anti-government Ayn Randian stupid.
BroncoInferno
09-13-2011, 05:06 AM
This is just about the only argument I keep hearing from anyone when they explain why they won't vote for Paul - even though he has the most valid positions on the most important issues in this election.
You don't have to support all of the guy's views - just realize that he's standing up for what matters when no other major politicans (except maybe Bernie Sanders) are.
I appreciate Paul's honesty and some of his foreign policy views, and I think that is a major reason his candiacy has found so many followers. But he is an ideological purist and that is NOT what we need right now. We need someone with real world, pragmatic solutions to our problems, and Paul doesn't offer that. Just "government is always bad, private sector is always good, if we'd get rid of government the wine and cheese would be bountiful" simplistic crap, when things are more complex than that.
hazefrog
09-13-2011, 09:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98
hazefrog
09-13-2011, 09:54 PM
All one has to do to fully grasp how plausible conspiracy theories actually are is spend a fair amount of time around a true sociopath. My year-long nightmare of dealing with a violent psychopath truly opened my eyes. People like that are capable of weaving together lies and manipulation in a way that puts jedi mind tricks to shame.
epicSocialism4tw
09-13-2011, 10:37 PM
All one has to do to fully grasp how plausible conspiracy theories actually are is spend a fair amount of time around a true sociopath. My year-long nightmare of dealing with a violent psychopath truly opened my eyes. People like that are capable of weaving together lies and manipulation in a way that puts jedi mind tricks to shame.
Its quite a shame that the only videos on 9/11 that can be found on youtube are crazy conspiracy theory nonsense.
It makes sense that the gullible would be slowly convinced of insanity if it was all that was there for them to see.
"Bush and The Jews did it!"
Yeah, right.
Troofer craziness not worth a second of anyone's time.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-14-2011, 01:00 AM
Its quite a shame that the only videos on 9/11 that can be found on youtube are crazy conspiracy theory nonsense.
There's nothing crazier than believing the official story when even the co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission have admitted it was a crock of sh*t.
epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2011, 01:55 AM
There's nothing crazier than believing the official story when even the co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission have admitted it was a crock of sh*t.
I luvz d troof!
hazefrog
09-14-2011, 06:20 AM
Its quite a shame that the only videos on 9/11 that can be found on youtube are crazy conspiracy theory nonsense.
It makes sense that the gullible would be slowly convinced of insanity if it was all that was there for them to see.
"Bush and The Jews did it!"
Yeah, right.
Troofer craziness not worth a second of anyone's time.
I think the best sales pitch for getting the average american started on conspiracies is that it allows one to retain their hatred for "the other side". Liberal vs Conservative is a sham, they're both rotten liars.
All one has to do to fully grasp how plausible conspiracy theories actually are is spend a fair amount of time around a true sociopath. My year-long nightmare of dealing with a violent psychopath truly opened my eyes. People like that are capable of weaving together lies and manipulation in a way that puts Jedi mind tricks to shame.
I know what you mean. I had a sister like that. She consumed my mother and father. I left home at 14 because of her power. Ten minutes with her and you would doubt your most basic belief. She could convince the pope Jesus was a dope dealer. Scary power. 15 steps ahead of the quickest mind in the room, maybe more that was all I could figure out after the situation came and went and I had time to piece it together. She was truly a mind Jedi. She died alone last May and I still vacillate between thinking I had her all wrong and the above sentiment. Most of the time I think she was possessed by some supernatural power. So I do know what you are saying. Mostly I think David Ike has it right.
alkemical
10-21-2011, 07:20 AM
I feel the same about my sister too Baja.