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Dukes
09-10-2011, 09:01 PM
How many combined sacks will Von and Elvis have this year?

After what I've seen so far from both of them, I don't think 25 is outside the realm of possibility.

enjolras
09-10-2011, 09:05 PM
It really depends. How often can our defense force passing downs? We play a LOT of good running teams this year. If we can get teams into passing situations, then 25 would be a disappointment to me.

theAPAOps5
09-10-2011, 09:07 PM
A zillion

ICON
09-10-2011, 09:07 PM
Chicago Bears had 72 sacks in 1984 combined sacks in a season
right?

Team combined sacks for the 2011 Denver Broncos 52

Doom 17
Von 15

Bob's your Information Minister
09-10-2011, 09:08 PM
15-20

ShutDownPoster
09-10-2011, 09:09 PM
I wouldn't mind Doom getting lower sack totals if it means he improved his overall game.

I say 25

strafen
09-10-2011, 09:13 PM
A zillionI'd go 2 zillions

vancejohnson82
09-10-2011, 09:21 PM
32 bushels

SoCalBronco
09-10-2011, 09:21 PM
20-25 is a reasonable estimate.

schaaf
09-10-2011, 09:24 PM
23 is my guess ****as

OBF1
09-10-2011, 09:29 PM
1 million

TheReverend
09-10-2011, 09:55 PM
20 would be very good.

I'm expecting 15, all things considered, but they certainly have the ability to post up 25

BroncoDoug
09-10-2011, 09:57 PM
24

That One Guy
09-10-2011, 10:00 PM
Two.

Each guy has one.

The Joker
09-10-2011, 10:11 PM
I'll say Doom has 12 and Miller gets 7.

15-25 seems a decent guess, as long as neither misses significant time. Doom will get the lion's share.

Broncoman13
09-10-2011, 10:36 PM
It really depends. How often can our defense force passing downs? We play a LOT of good running teams this year. If we can get teams into passing situations, then 25 would be a disappointment to me.

25 sacks from two players would be a disappointment??? I don't see any way that is a disappointing season. In fact, that would put us up around 45 as a team and in the top 10. They get 25 sacks combined and somebody is winning rookie of the year honors... that or Doom is breaking a record, either way I'm a happy camper!

Broncoman13
09-10-2011, 10:45 PM
Btw, my guess would be 28... 15.5 for Doom and 12.5 for Von.

HAT
09-10-2011, 10:46 PM
15-25 seems a decent guess, .

Agreed.......4-100 seems like a decent guess too.

HAT
09-10-2011, 10:47 PM
17 is the correct answer BTW.

TheReverend
09-10-2011, 10:56 PM
17 is the correct answer BTW.

Wouldn't be surprised.

Quite frankly I think people have both too high and the wrong expectations for Von Miller. He's going to do a LOT of different things while people are judging him solely as a pass rush specialist... He'll probably only really rush 50% of passing plays.

I think a VERY good rookie year outing for him would be:

100-ish tackles, 2 INTs, 6 sacks

Talented enough for more, yes, but that's an extremely good year for a rookie player.

Broncoman13
09-10-2011, 11:04 PM
Wouldn't be surprised.

Quite frankly I think people have both too high and the wrong expectations for Von Miller. He's going to do a LOT of different things while people are judging him solely as a pass rush specialist... He'll probably only really rush 50% of passing plays.

I think a VERY good rookie year outing for him would be:

100-ish tackles, 2 INTs, 6 sacks

Talented enough for more, yes, but that's an extremely good year for a rookie player.

I think he'll rush on closer to 75% of passing plays. If he gets to 100 tackles I will be super pleased. I am thinking closer to 80 tackles, 12.5 sacks and 1 INT. Hopefully about 12-15 of those tackles are for losses.

The only thing that concerns me is how many opportunities he will have on obvious passing downs. We are going to face 1st down runs of 5+ yards a lot I'm afraid.

mkporter
09-10-2011, 11:10 PM
I'll take 24. 14 for Doom, 10 for Von. This is fun, we should post our predictions for next week's game too.

Play2win
09-10-2011, 11:44 PM
42. :)

BroncoLover
09-11-2011, 01:02 AM
How many combined sacks will Von and Elvis have this year?

After what I've seen so far from both of them, I don't think 25 is outside the realm of possibility.

Are you attention whore ? There was a similar thread few weeks back.

If a new guy on the block starts new thread, whole mane goes gaga.. but a guy keeps creating similar threads.. there a bunch of folks happy to tag along. I now see how most of them have over 10K posts here.

DBroncos4life
09-11-2011, 01:09 AM
Thomas had ten his rookie year. If Von is as fast as they say he is then I think the 20-25 range is a good guess.

uk bronco
09-11-2011, 02:54 AM
i bet a raiders fan they would get 5 on monday night. cant wait to see miller going low doom going high and cut a qb in half

Dukes
09-11-2011, 06:38 AM
Are you attention whore ? There was a similar thread few weeks back.

If a new guy on the block starts new thread, whole mane goes gaga.. but a guy keeps creating similar threads.. there a bunch of folks happy to tag along. I now see how most of them have over 10K posts here.

Of coarse I'm an attention whore. Can't you tell my posts and threads are everywhere?

Edit** Nevermind...just another ****ing noob

BroncoLover
09-11-2011, 07:44 AM
Of coarse I'm an attention whore. Can't you tell my posts and threads are everywhere?

Edit** Nevermind...just another ****ing noob

I pointed the obvious, if you cannot take it..it is up to you. when you cannot add on to existing threads and need new one. You are attention whore.

Dukes
09-11-2011, 08:25 AM
I pointed the obvious, if you cannot take it..it is up to you. when you cannot add on to existing threads and need new one. You are attention whore.

Good thing you weren't around during the Cutler years. Absolute embarrass

Garcia Bronco
09-11-2011, 08:38 AM
Gosh...if they get 10 each that would be awesome.

theAPAOps5
09-11-2011, 10:02 AM
Are you attention whore ? There was a similar thread few weeks back.

If a new guy on the block starts new thread, whole mane goes gaga.. but a guy keeps creating similar threads.. there a bunch of folks happy to tag along. I now see how most of them have over 10K posts here.

Why so angry?

Dukes
09-11-2011, 11:58 AM
Why so angry?

Someone pissed in his cheerios

Tim
09-11-2011, 12:31 PM
31

peacepipe
09-11-2011, 02:27 PM
15-20 let's not forget that miller is playing OLB in a 4-3 not a 3-4. completely different responsibilities. how many 4-3 LBS are there getting 10+ sacks a season. outside of obvious passing downs & blitzes miller is not going to be going after the QB.OLB in a 4-3 isn't responsible for pressure on the QB the DEs are.

Tim
09-11-2011, 03:07 PM
15-20 let's not forget that miller is playing OLB in a 4-3 not a 3-4. completely different responsibilities. how many 4-3 LBS are there getting 10+ sacks a season. outside of obvious passing downs & blitzes miller is not going to be going after the QB.OLB in a 4-3 isn't responsible for pressure on the QB the DEs are.

did you watch how he was used in preseason? And to give a recent example of a 4-3 sam backer that had double digit sacks is Brian Orakpo in 2009

snowspot66
09-11-2011, 03:12 PM
15-20 let's not forget that miller is playing OLB in a 4-3 not a 3-4. completely different responsibilities. how many 4-3 LBS are there getting 10+ sacks a season. outside of obvious passing downs & blitzes miller is not going to be going after the QB.OLB in a 4-3 isn't responsible for pressure on the QB the DEs are.

He won't be used strictly as a traditional 4-3 linebacker on all downs though.

peacepipe
09-11-2011, 03:22 PM
He won't be used strictly as a traditional 4-3 linebacker on all downs though.no,but Fox isn't known for being a outside the box thinker when it comes to pressure on the QB. his defenses have always depended on DEs pressuring the QB. Unless our defense is blitz heavy, I don't see miller getting into dbl digits.

peacepipe
09-11-2011, 03:23 PM
did you watch how he was used in preseason? And to give a recent example of a 4-3 sam backer that had double digit sacks is Brian Orakpo in 2009

Gregg williams blitzed alot that yr.

enjolras
09-11-2011, 03:25 PM
Gregg williams blitzed alot that yr.

I think we will too.

Agamemnon
09-11-2011, 03:28 PM
I predict 22 total sacks (12 for Dumervil and 10 for Miller), but I wouldn't be totally shocked if it was more like 28.

Agamemnon
09-11-2011, 03:31 PM
no,but Fox isn't known for being a outside the box thinker when it comes to pressure on the QB. his defenses have always depended on DEs pressuring the QB. Unless our defense is blitz heavy, I don't see miller getting into dbl digits.

From what I saw this preseason, I don't really expect a traditional Fox defense this year.

Agamemnon
09-11-2011, 03:32 PM
Wouldn't be surprised.

Quite frankly I think people have both too high and the wrong expectations for Von Miller. He's going to do a LOT of different things while people are judging him solely as a pass rush specialist... He'll probably only really rush 50% of passing plays.

I think a VERY good rookie year outing for him would be:

100-ish tackles, 2 INTs, 6 sacks

Talented enough for more, yes, but that's an extremely good year for a rookie player.

They used him primarily as a pass rusher in the preseason. Not sure why that would change in the regular season. He is a pass rush specialist. That's why we drafted him.

BroncoLover
09-11-2011, 03:57 PM
Why so angry?

Bcos if the same thread was created by a new guy on OMane, everyone will jump on him as though a offense has been commited. Asking him to look at past threads and bringing up the 100 post rule. So can we not the same ? Is that wrong ?

BroncoLover
09-11-2011, 03:59 PM
Someone pissed in his cheerios

If that is what you eat your cheerios with go ahead .... i can see you cannot take no for answer and accept you were wrong Hilarious!

theAPAOps5
09-11-2011, 04:48 PM
Bcos if the same thread was created by a new guy on OMane, everyone will jump on him as though a offense has been commited. Asking him to look at past threads and bringing up the 100 post rule. So can we not the same ? Is that wrong ?

Man girl, you sure are angry.

mkporter
09-11-2011, 05:35 PM
Bcos if the same thread was created by a new guy on OMane, everyone will jump on him as though a offense has been commited. Asking him to look at past threads and bringing up the 100 post rule. So can we not the same ? Is that wrong ?

100 post rule...

TheReverend
09-11-2011, 06:02 PM
They used him primarily as a pass rusher in the preseason. Not sure why that would change in the regular season. He is a pass rush specialist. That's why we drafted him.

And if only every passing down were blatantly telegraphed, you'd have a point.

Maximus
09-11-2011, 06:35 PM
Since they are the answer to everything around here... I expect them to have at least 1,600 sacks on the season!

Rock Chalk
09-11-2011, 08:15 PM
Since they are the answer to everything around here... I expect them to have at least 1,600 sacks on the season!

Definitely about to break of 2K in this system.

Chris
09-11-2011, 08:30 PM
23

maven
09-11-2011, 08:59 PM
I'm going with Elvis at 12 and Von with 8.

ZONA
09-12-2011, 03:41 AM
I'll say Doom has 12 and Miller gets 7.

15-25 seems a decent guess, as long as neither misses significant time. Doom will get the lion's share.

Say what? Miller 7 sacks? Maybe in the first 4 games.

I'm giving Doom 13 and Miller 15. Sounds about right after what I saw in the preseason. We were running vanilla defense and it was just those guys getting around the edge, pure talent and physical ability. It's going to be something teams really have to pay attention to, way more then usual. Both these guys are special pass rushers. I think both guys will be in double digits for sacks, if they stay healthy all season.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-12-2011, 08:39 AM
Wouldn't be surprised.

Quite frankly I think people have both too high and the wrong expectations for Von Miller. He's going to do a LOT of different things while people are judging him solely as a pass rush specialist... He'll probably only really rush 50% of passing plays.

I think a VERY good rookie year outing for him would be:

100-ish tackles, 2 INTs, 6 sacks

Talented enough for more, yes, but that's an extremely good year for a rookie player.

And then all we'll hear is "OMG BUST BECUZ UF DRAFT PUZISHUN!"

Can't wait! Weee!

jhns
09-12-2011, 08:45 AM
7 sacks for Miller and 18 for Elvis. They got that in my first season of Madden so it will probably hapoen like that IRL.

Ray Finkle
09-12-2011, 09:01 AM
I'm going to say 12 for Doom and 8 for Miller. He's going to hit the rookie wall at some point.

~Crash~
09-12-2011, 10:20 AM
25-30 they are going to make some OT's look silly.

~Crash~
09-12-2011, 10:21 AM
what we should really be guessing is how many QB's knocked out of atleast one game by the two.

My guess 5 .

Gutless Drunk
12-30-2011, 05:30 PM
23

Arkie
12-30-2011, 05:58 PM
They'll be teeing off on Kyle Orton this week!

ohiobronco2
12-30-2011, 06:44 PM
May have approached 30 if both were healthy all year. Definitely one of the best pass rush duo's in the league.

HAT
03-19-2012, 09:00 PM
So what is this going to be in 2012 when playing with a lead?

The Joker
03-19-2012, 09:02 PM
30 combined I'll say.

Lestat
03-19-2012, 09:04 PM
if we upgrade DT then i say Doom with 16, Von with 18.5.

if we don't upgrade DT then i say Doom with 13, Von with 14.