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bronclvr
09-08-2011, 10:30 AM
You read the special section and are waiting for the Raiders' night practice updates and interviews. Killing time reading stuff from today's conference calls with Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton and coach John Fox isn't going to do much for you but here goes:

Orton was supposed to be traded to make room for Tim Tebow to start, but that was before everybody started beating up on Tebow on the field and off. Orton is still there.

"Anything in the offseason never surprises me," Orton said. "It's part of the business. I don't have any thoughts on that at all. Just excited to be here, excited with the team we have and excited with the guys we have on offense."

Does Orton even watch last year's 59-14 loss to the visiting Raiders? Or was it burned?

"We certainly watch it. We know what happened. We're not sitting here crying over spilt milk. What happened, happened. You can always learn something and certainly we're excited to get them back here at Mile High and see what they've got."

How different are Raiders without Pro Bowl CB Nnamdi Asomugha?

"We'll have to wait and see. They've had some injuries throughout the preseason. We'll have to wait and see what they have come Monday. Certainly Nnamdi was a great player no doubt about that.

Orton doesn't suddenly see a half of a field opening up with Asomugha gone, and Chris Johnson starting in his place.

"I kind of go about it the same way every time. I just go through my reads and try to throw the ball to the open guy."

^ Here's Fox on Raiders RB Darren McFadden and Broncos rookie LB Von Miller:

"(McFadden's) a very explosive player. Whether you hand it to him or throw it to him, he's got as good a burst of acceleration as top-notch backs that playing, without a doubt. And I think he was plagued by injuries earlier in his career but last year was a break-out year for him and I'm sure he's really confident coming into this year."

"(Miller's) a little but like I talked about Darren McFadden, in a different position. He's very explosive. He converts power and speed very well and he's got an excellent first step in explosion as far as rushing the passer."



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=97018#ixzz1XNoeNaW3


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=97018

Los Broncos
09-08-2011, 10:40 AM
We better contain the run or it isn't going to end well.

Dagmar
09-08-2011, 10:53 AM
We better contain the run or it isn't going to end well.

So much this. We need a lead, force them to throw and get pressure on Campbell. When was the last time we won on MNF? Chargers?

TheReverend
09-08-2011, 10:56 AM
So much this. We need a lead, force them to throw and get pressure on Campbell. When was the last time we won on MNF? Chargers?

Think so. And before that, crushed Oak the last time we played them on MNF in 08 :)

epicSocialism4tw
09-08-2011, 12:15 PM
Does Orton even watch last year's 59-14 loss to the visiting Raiders? Or was it burned?

"We certainly watch it. We know what happened. We're not sitting here crying over spilt milk. What happened, happened. You can always learn something and certainly we're excited to get them back here at Mile High and see what they've got."

...and this is why Orton is not the right guy for the team. He doesn't understand the rivalry, doesn't understand the importance to fans, and doesn't understand or care about Broncos history.

His tenure here can't end soon enough.

Crushaholic
09-08-2011, 12:25 PM
I don't know about the team, but we'll be better because I'm watching, this year. During that game, last year, I was in the hospital. I missed the whole thing. This time, I'm healthy and ready to be an unhealthy couch potato...:clown:

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-08-2011, 12:33 PM
...and this is why Orton is not the right guy for the team. He doesn't understand the rivalry, doesn't understand the importance to fans, and doesn't understand or care about Broncos history.

His tenure here can't end soon enough.

You gleaned all that from a quote where he says "we don't cry over it"?

You should definitely reach more, but be sure to stretch. Hate to see you pull something.

crush17
09-08-2011, 12:48 PM
...and this is why Orton is not the right guy for the team. He doesn't understand the rivalry, doesn't understand the importance to fans, and doesn't understand or care about Broncos history.

His tenure here can't end soon enough.

If anything he should understand the rivalry even more now since the broncos have lost 3 of 4 against the Gaiders in his tenure here.

If we don't come out and stomp on those fools I will be shocked and or appalled.

epicSocialism4tw
09-08-2011, 12:51 PM
If anything he should understand the rivalry even more now since the broncos have lost 3 of 4 against the Gaiders in his tenure here.

If we don't come out and stomp on those fools I will be shocked and or appalled.

Well, Orton thinks that "what happened happened" and that he "cant cry over spilt milk", which shouldn't make any Broncos fan confident that he wants to go out there and avenge last years loss.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-08-2011, 01:10 PM
Well, Orton thinks that "what happened happened" and that he "cant cry over spilt milk", which shouldn't make any Broncos fan confident that he wants to go out there and avenge last years loss.

I want a guy who is crying over spilt milk. That's what I'm looking for in a quarterback. A crybaby.

Because crying over spilt milk will deliver a win. Or something equally retarded.

Beantown Bronco
09-08-2011, 01:52 PM
Without looking it up, outside of 1999, I can't think of any time in the last 15-20 years that the Broncos have lost their first home game of the year.

Ironlung
09-08-2011, 02:11 PM
I live about 7 hrs from Denver so I try to make it to atleast one home game per season....last years raiders game is the game I chose...I left midway thru the 2nd qtr...I walked out of Mile High feeling like I deserved an apology/refund.

JJJ
09-08-2011, 02:36 PM
59 points to the Raiders. That really is pretty unbelievable.

In 2006 the Raiders scored 168 points..........the whole season.

Tombstone RJ
09-08-2011, 02:39 PM
I want a guy who is crying over spilt milk. That's what I'm looking for in a quarterback. A crybaby.

Because crying over spilt milk will deliver a win. Or something equally retarded.

hey douchey McDouch bag, it works for Rivers.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-08-2011, 02:43 PM
hey douchey McDouch bag, it works for Rivers.

Link?

Can you come up with a more creative nickname while you're at it?

Boy, I sure hope the guys on my team cry over losses a ****ing year later. Championship!

Hilarious!

Christ almighty, you're stupid.

epicSocialism4tw
09-08-2011, 02:47 PM
hey douchey McDouch bag, it works for Rivers.

Orton should have apologized to fans for that disaster.

Instead, he has an apathetic nonchalance about the whole thing.

Tombstone RJ
09-08-2011, 02:48 PM
Link?

Can you come up with a more creative nickname while you're at it?

Boy, I sure hope the guys on my team cry over losses a ****ing year later. Championship!

Hilarious!

Christ almighty, you're stupid.

good to know you still have a sense of humor...

OABB
09-08-2011, 02:52 PM
im still crying over it. thats the game that ended orton for me. what a heartless guy. he is cutler, just not as dumb.

ghwk
09-08-2011, 02:59 PM
I think the key is our offense staying on the field for long drives to wear down their defense.

epicSocialism4tw
09-08-2011, 02:59 PM
good to know you still have a sense of humor...

I'm glad I have that clown on ignore. Ha!

His posts read like a menstrual witch cackling about eye-of-newt that isn't up to standard.

BowlenBall
09-08-2011, 05:31 PM
One of the worst losses in Broncos history (not quite as bad as the San Francisco Super Bowl loss, but not far off, either).

I don't want to hear that "it was just one game" or "we're not thinking about it." In fact, I want them to be pissed off and obsessed about it. A horrible, embarassing performance which led directly to a franchise shake-up at season's end

UberBroncoMan
09-08-2011, 05:47 PM
Think so. And before that, crushed Oak the last time we played them on MNF in 08 :)

Eddie Royal's coming out party.

maher_tyler
09-08-2011, 06:09 PM
One of the worst losses in Broncos history (not quite as bad as the San Francisco Super Bowl loss, but not far off, either).

I don't want to hear that "it was just one game" or "we're not thinking about it." In fact, I want them to be pissed off and obsessed about it. A horrible, embarassing performance which led directly to a franchise shake-up at season's end

I agree, i'd be a lot happier if he came out and said, we're pissed about it and i can't wait to smack them in the face..nobody comes into our house and pushes us around!!

KipCorrington25
09-08-2011, 06:40 PM
Maybe Orton can manage to not throw a pick 6 on the first offensive play, God he sucks...

cabronco
09-08-2011, 06:55 PM
I think a big factor is our defense stopping a big back like Michael Bush. I think we may see a Bush / Mays collision a time or two.

BroncosinDC
09-08-2011, 09:58 PM
Here is what bugs me, this is an article in the San Francisco Chronicle. Remember when our O-Line fined each other for public statements?

What would have made me happy was, "I decline to answer to a reporter who writes for a Raiders blog" or "Interesting question, will you be covering the Raiders when the move to LA?" or "I have no comments on that game, I was so hammered on Jack and Goose and slayed like 6 skankbots the night before that my memory starts in the 4th qtr, but I saw a clip on sports center that night at shotgun willies with my boy Matty P, and it made me so mad I punched a stripper...and I feel bad about that I'd have liked to see her naked"

Ugly Duck
09-08-2011, 10:48 PM
Broncos not crying over last Years 59-14 loss

How different are Raiders without Pro Bowl CB Nnamdi Asomugha?

Asomugha didn't even play when the Raiders slapped 59 points on Denver in that win. He did play in the other win when Oakland scored 39 on the Broncos. Doesn't seem to make much of a difference against Denver....

cutthemdown
09-08-2011, 11:44 PM
I'm torn. I don't think Orton stinks, but I do think he is only slightly better then avg. But......so many just saying he outright is garbage under pressure, and some numbers to back it up have me wondering if somehow I went from really negative like last yr, to a homer this yr.

Seriously though Decker looks to have added something we didn't have last yr. I like the big rookie RT, although he is raw, when he gets on someone its over with he dominates them. He does sometimes not get his hooks into his guy though. I also think Moreno looks quicker and healthier then ever, and that Magahee can help him in short yardage and some redzone work. Maghee does that then Moreno wont lose confidence and maybe can break some bigger runs. I also think the TE look way better. They are more athletic and more of a threat in the passing game. Clady looks like his old self, sort of, not quite but better then last preseason. still worried about center and the one gaurd spot. Kuper I think rebounds for a good yr.

All those improvements have me optimistic Orton will score a TD more a game this yr. Also I think the defense will make some big plays that will help him achieve that goal.

The team is flat out more talented then last yr. Not deep yet, injuries could kill us, and probably will before yr is out, but in the meantime I think Orton can play top 15 qbs in the league stat wise. I know you guys want better, I want top 5 also, just not sure Tebow ready.

If Orton stinks it up though, i will be right there excited about tebow. I love his running potential.

cutthemdown
09-08-2011, 11:51 PM
Asomugha didn't even play when the Raiders slapped 59 points on Denver in that win. He did play in the other win when Oakland scored 39 on the Broncos. Doesn't seem to make much of a difference against Denver....

I think the Broncos got better, don't really think the Raiders did. but obviously Broncos have to tackle way better then they did that game. New defense, 4 different starters, so we will see. You are 100% correct though Raiders should be favorites and Mcfadden the number 1 ranked runner this week. Until Broncos can prove something they are trash.

It's been tough for us watching our Broncos be this bad. We know now a little how you guys have felt for so very long. Really the Raiders excited because they went 8-8 and blew Broncos out shows how far they have fallen. It used to be Superbowl are nothing. They seem content with far less nowdays.

Monday we will see. I doubt Campbell being a good QB. I think Doom and Miller can get past the tackles. I especially think Miller is going to give Barnes fits. This kid is special. He explodes with multiple moves to the QB. Raiders thin at TE with Boss out. Plus Doom on the weakside will be hard enough to deal with.

Broncos will load up the box and dare the Raiders to throw IMO. Bailey isn't scared of any raider WR 1-1 except maybe Ford he would need help deep on. We have more athletes at safety this yr though so again I think Broncos will be better down the middle and on the deep sideline stuff.

Can't ask for better then Broncos Raiders to start yr.

cutthemdown
09-08-2011, 11:57 PM
Here is what bugs me, this is an article in the San Francisco Chronicle. Remember when our O-Line fined each other for public statements?

What would have made me happy was, "I decline to answer to a reporter who writes for a Raiders blog" or "Interesting question, will you be covering the Raiders when the move to LA?" or "I have no comments on that game, I was so hammered on Jack and Goose and slayed like 6 skankbots the night before that my memory starts in the 4th qtr, but I saw a clip on sports center that night at shotgun willies with my boy Matty P, and it made me so mad I punched a stripper...and I feel bad about that I'd have liked to see her naked"

Well the NFL started fining them for not being accessible to the media. Don't blame them that the bosses changed the rules.

Win or lose Monday I just want to see the Broncos play good football. One step at a time. First step is to not suck. If Raiders played really good, and we did to, and we lost I would still be excited. I just want to see good solid football. Not 12 men on the field, or 11 guys on defense scrambling around to get into position, looking confused, stupid penalties, etc etc. No missed tackles. Our guys whiffed so often it was like the field was coke and it was an 80's hollywood party. I'm hoping Moore does better, Miller does better, Doom does better, Bunkley does better etc etc.

Lloyd, Decker, Royal has some potential on the other side. Not like Orton doesn't have some decent weapons. The oline we will see. I think how they play is more a question then the dline.

Ayers sort of good against run, not so great getting to QB, but Miller and Doom can make up for that. Vickerson I think pretty good and if Bunkley works out maybe we can be ok. We will wear down I think so Orton has to make plays early.

errand
09-09-2011, 05:33 AM
Orton should have apologized to fans for that disaster.

Instead, he has an apathetic nonchalance about the whole thing.

Your right......orton should have apologize for not scoring 48 more points.

I wonder how many yards rushing the raiders hung on us?

How does the QB deserve the bulk of blame for another team scoring 59 points? Why doesn't champ and brian owe you one? I guess if we'd have scored a TD on every possession we'd have won......

ween1980
09-09-2011, 06:23 AM
Eddie Royal's coming out party.

Does it count as a coming out party when he hasn't really done anything worthwhile since?

gunns
09-09-2011, 06:34 AM
One of the worst losses in Broncos history (not quite as bad as the San Francisco Super Bowl loss, but not far off, either).

I don't want to hear that "it was just one game" or "we're not thinking about it." In fact, I want them to be pissed off and obsessed about it. A horrible, embarassing performance which led directly to a franchise shake-up at season's end

He didn't say they weren't pissed about it. He also didn't it was just one game. The fact they watch the film to learn from it tells me they didn't take it lightly, but aren't going to boohoo over it. Kind of like the Broncos the next year after the Jacksonville game. They were devastated, at the time, but learned from it and came back strong. Hopefully this years Broncos can do the same. And if that embarrassing game led directly to a franchise shake-up, that was not a bad thing.

BHamita
09-09-2011, 11:46 AM
Asomugha didn't even play when the Raiders slapped 59 points on Denver in that win. He did play in the other win when Oakland scored 39 on the Broncos. Doesn't seem to make much of a difference against Denver....


Yes, he did. Check the tape.

Sassy
09-09-2011, 07:00 PM
I want a guy who is crying over spilt milk. That's what I'm looking for in a quarterback. A crybaby.

Because crying over spilt milk will deliver a win. Or something equally retarded.

Didn't we already have a QB like that. His name was Cutler.

Rock Chalk
09-09-2011, 07:49 PM
Yes, he did. Check the tape.

If he played he did not have one stat registered. No tackles, no passes defensed, nothing. No passes caught against him, no picks, no sacks, no fumble recoveries.

You can't find Asomugha's name anywhere in the play-by-play or the box score.

And I find that incredibly difficult to believe if he actually played in the game.

TheReverend
09-09-2011, 08:32 PM
If he played he did not have one stat registered. No tackles, no passes defensed, nothing. No passes caught against him, no picks, no sacks, no fumble recoveries.

You can't find Asomugha's name anywhere in the play-by-play or the box score.

And I find that incredibly difficult to believe if he actually played in the game.

He started and played. The games he missed were KC and PIT

http://www.nfl.com/player/nnamdiasomugha/2505580/gamelogs?season=2010

BHamita
09-09-2011, 09:04 PM
If he played he did not have one stat registered. No tackles, no passes defensed, nothing. No passes caught against him, no picks, no sacks, no fumble recoveries.

You can't find Asomugha's name anywhere in the play-by-play or the box score.

And I find that incredibly difficult to believe if he actually played in the game.


So, you probably shouldn't just check the stats. This isn't something difficult to understand...he played. Cue 2:47.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWG8jpQu528

Powderaddict
09-09-2011, 10:59 PM
John Elway and the Broncos used the devastating home loss in the playoffs to motivate them and carry them right to the superbowl.

Orton has a devastaing home loss, and "meh".

Damn straight I want a QB and a TEAM that cries over spilt milk. I am bothered that KO doesn't care.

epicSocialism4tw
09-10-2011, 01:57 PM
John Elway and the Broncos used the devastating home loss in the playoffs to motivate them and carry them right to the superbowl.

Orton has a devastaing home loss, and "meh".

Damn straight I want a QB and a TEAM that cries over spilt milk. I am bothered that KO doesn't care.

Well, to be fair to Kyle, its the way he has always played here. He has never fully become a Bronco. He has always acted as though this was just a job and that he's doing the minimum of what it takes to keep it.