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lostknight
09-04-2011, 03:11 PM
Jeremy Beal and the Adam "better than Tebow" Weber have joined the Broncos P.S.

Maxdenver is reporting on Beal, from raveninsiders source (ravensinsider breaks a lot of Broncos news. What's up with that?)

Weber was earlier confirmed by his agent.

The other positions are not filled yet because the Broncos have claimed several people off of waivers, and the remaining positions are up for grabs.

First waiver pickup is DB Jonathan Wilhite.

From Vick, here is the PS squad (may change as we pick up more waivers):
Broncos PS additions: DE J.Beal, WR D.Goodwin, T A.Grant, RB J.Johnson, S K.McCarthy, WR E.Riley, FB A.Sylvester, QB A.Weber.

Kaylore
09-04-2011, 03:24 PM
Cool!

orange crusher
09-04-2011, 03:32 PM
Better then or better than?

lostknight
09-04-2011, 03:35 PM
First waiver pickup: DB Jonathan Wilhite.

Popcorn Sutton
09-04-2011, 03:39 PM
Waived McBath.

OBF1
09-04-2011, 03:39 PM
explain better than Tebow please... I know I am going to be picky, but please use statistics and facts, 2 things difficult to find on the mane.

R8R H8R
09-04-2011, 03:43 PM
Waived McBath.

WOW. A bit of a surprise to me.

DrFate
09-04-2011, 03:44 PM
Better then or better than?

than

lostknight
09-04-2011, 03:49 PM
Fixed.

The reference to better than Tebow was, of course, the article that came out earlier about Weber being better then Tebow. I've been told - but can't confirm - that there is a PR agency that has made their job in life to trash Tebow, and that P.R agency has been shopping stories about Tebow to the media.

Gort
09-04-2011, 03:50 PM
explain better than Tebow please... I know I am going to be picky, but please use statistics and facts, 2 things difficult to find on the mane.

i think it's a joke.

it's because Weber went 1 of 1 for 89 yards against the Cards for a 118.8 QB rating.

KO5K
09-04-2011, 03:56 PM
Fixed.

The reference to better than Tebow was, of course, the article that came out earlier about Weber being better then Tebow. I've been told - but can't confirm - that there is a PR agency that has made their job in life to trash Tebow, and that P.R agency has been shopping stories about Tebow to the media.

wtf?

RhymesayersDU
09-04-2011, 04:03 PM
Kicker Steven Hauschka claimed off waivers. Find Schefter's tweet.

Gcver2ver3
09-04-2011, 04:06 PM
Kicker Steven Hauschka claimed off waivers. Find Schefter's tweet.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_femhrxbNtS0/TU_XCa4nkTI/AAAAAAAAJcw/8sh5hPTgZwI/s1600/Lombardi-trophy.jpg

mwill07
09-04-2011, 04:10 PM
I was a big fan of Wilhite back in '87 or so.

Mogulseeker
09-04-2011, 04:10 PM
Damn, I had high hopes for McBath.

I'm glad Weber and McCarthy are part of the team again.

lostknight
09-04-2011, 04:12 PM
I'm excited about Eron, McCarthy and Beal. Bottom line to me is that this team still sucks depth wise.

Mogulseeker
09-04-2011, 04:12 PM
From Vick, here is the PS squad (may change as we pick up more waivers):
Broncos PS additions: DE J.Beal, WR D.Goodwin, T A.Grant, RB J.Johnson, S K.McCarthy, WR E.Riley, FB A.Sylvester, QB A.Weber.

For the most part, this is who I expected them to keep on the PS. I was uneasy about McCarthy because I thought McD was going to convince Spags to pick him up.

Start (or trade) Orton this year, Quinn at #2... and start Tebow with Weber as number 2 in 2012, FTW!

Mogulseeker
09-04-2011, 04:15 PM
Mods/really involved posters:

I would really appreciate a sticky with all the waiver/PS transactions and player statuses (claimed/on waiver/PS). If someone is willing to do it, I'm sure it would be rep gold.

lostknight
09-04-2011, 04:16 PM
There is no question to me that safety play last year was a huge huge issue. From that point of view, I'm okay with McBath being gone because of performance. I'm glad Bruton is still around, if noting else for leadership and character, but it's time for the young guns to fix last seasons mistake.

lostknight
09-04-2011, 04:16 PM
I'd sticky it if I could.

Mogulseeker
09-04-2011, 04:17 PM
There is no question to me that safety play last year was a huge huge issue. From that point of view, I'm okay with McBath being gone because of performance. I'm glad Bruton is still around, if noting else for leadership and character, but it's time for the young guns to fix last seasons mistake.

I'm still sort of upset about McBath, because he was talented and really did show some flashes. Hopefully there will be a PS space for him... still wanna try him out as a containment corner, too.

Hamrob
09-04-2011, 04:20 PM
Somebody please wake up Xanders. That's great we resigned the guys who just got their asses handed to them by the Cards backups.

How about some upgrades on the Oline, Dline, CB and RB????

lostknight
09-04-2011, 04:22 PM
It looks to me like the Broncos have made the calculation that there is nothing they can do immediately to fix the club depth problems, and are going to try and focus on cohesiveness to win games early in the schedule rather then add talent, and risk re-training new players.

Of course, they still haven't announced any waivers at all. So unless the Panthers got ever player we tried to claim, or the Broncos didn't claim anyone, more is to come.

Hamrob
09-04-2011, 04:29 PM
This is the kid I want:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/834814-waiver-wire-top-5-pickups-the-denver-broncos-need-to-improve-depth-in-2011?utm_campaign=buzztap&utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter#/articles/834814-waiver-wire-top-5-pickups-the-denver-broncos-need-to-improve-depth-in-2011/page/2

Some talented guys:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/834814-waiver-wire-top-5-pickups-the-denver-broncos-need-to-improve-depth-in-2011?utm_campaign=buzztap&utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

Mogulseeker
09-04-2011, 04:31 PM
Somebody please wake up Xanders. That's great we resigned the guys who just got their asses handed to them by the Cards backups.

How about some upgrades on the Oline, Dline, CB and RB????

Lighten up, lol. They signed a couple of guys to the practice squad who played well and deserved to be somewhere.

They're claiming guys off waivers, too and moving actives to the practice squad.

bigbucks24
09-04-2011, 04:45 PM
I'm still sort of upset about McBath, because he was talented and really did show some flashes. Hopefully there will be a PS space for him... still wanna try him out as a containment corner, too.

Not eligible for the PS. If you play 9 games or are kept on the 53 man roster for an entire year, you are not eligible. McBath played 14 games his rookie year.

Mogulseeker
09-04-2011, 04:49 PM
Not eligible for the PS. If you play 9 games or are kept on the 53 man roster for an entire year, you are not eligible. McBath played 14 games his rookie year.

That's a dumb rule...

PRBronco
09-04-2011, 04:52 PM
Wow no O linemen claimed? Are there still claims coming in?

OBF1
09-04-2011, 04:53 PM
stand back, the sky has begun to fall

broncos-rock
09-04-2011, 05:02 PM
stand back, the sky has begun to fall

no but talking about crapping away that #2 claim spot. Carolina did a much better job of taking advantage.

broncosteven
09-04-2011, 05:41 PM
I guess this means I don't have to change my Adopt a Bronco after all!

epicSocialism4tw
09-04-2011, 07:01 PM
I guess we aren't looking to improve.

Have we really become the Clippers of the NFL?

Gort
09-04-2011, 07:10 PM
I guess we aren't looking to improve.

Have we really become the Clippers of the NFL?

2006: 9-7
2007: 7-9
2008: 8-8
2009: 8-8
2010: 4-12

in that 5 year span, the Broncos are only 20-20 at Invesco.

orange&blue87
09-04-2011, 07:23 PM
no but talking about crapping away that #2 claim spot. Carolina did a much better job of taking advantage.

Carolina had similar needs and the #1 spot... perhaps it's not that they crapped away the #2 spot, but that Carolina took the players Denver would have. If the players Denver wanted weren't there, they said they graded over 900 players that would potentially be available, then why make a move?

Carolina gets anyone they want, Denver gets anyone they want that Carolina doesn't.

cutthemdown
09-04-2011, 07:41 PM
WOW. A bit of a surprise to me.

Not me the dude stinks. When I watch him run to the ball it seems like his angle always so bad you can see it way before he misses the tackle. He has poor football instincts IMO. People get so caught up in how fast players are, when its really about who diagnosis the play soonest and fights his way to the ball. I don't see Mcbath getting to the ball with enough regularity for a safety. Usually safetys are unblocked so really they should be around the ball quite often.

I remember playing football as a kid the coach would always tell the running back the safety is the guy you have to make a move on etc etc, we won't have any blocking left by that point. Mcbath just doesn't make plays, he is easily beaten.

broncocalijohn
09-04-2011, 07:42 PM
Im happy with the PS and some of those guys had some good games/plays. As for McBath, some had this as a battle between him and Bruton. Not even close IMO.

cutthemdown
09-04-2011, 07:45 PM
People need to realize that waiver additions this late will have trouble helping much because they don't know the playbook or the system. You don't cut players you are developing just to pick up some other teams trash. The bkups and role players on the team right now have been working with the coaches, learning, and defining roles. Unless some waiver move is really a good deal I don't see Denver making big changes to the back end of the roster at this point.

Dedhed
09-04-2011, 08:51 PM
Better then or better than?

I think what he was trying to say is that when Tebow starts, we'll be better then.

Inkana7
09-04-2011, 08:51 PM
Have we as a fanbase really been reduced to getting pissed that answers to our problems aren't coming from the Waiver Wire?

epicSocialism4tw
09-04-2011, 08:52 PM
Have we as a fanbase really been reduced to getting pissed that answers to our problems aren't coming from the Waiver Wire?

You can thank the front office for that. They neglected to find the answers to the team's problems in free agency like they said they were going to do.

Dedhed
09-04-2011, 08:53 PM
Waived McBath.Did they waive McBath to make room for Wilhite?

UberBroncoMan
09-04-2011, 09:00 PM
Did they waive McBath to make room for Wilhite?

Guess Mr. UDFA was better depth than McBath...kinda surprised.

Mogulseeker
09-04-2011, 09:27 PM
I thought he was a 4th rounder that starter 4 games in that Pats 18-1 season.

Que
09-04-2011, 09:43 PM
Dear John,

U R tearing this team apart!!!!! Leave now while u still can

Love,

que

Kaylore
09-04-2011, 09:52 PM
McDaniels was easily the worst at drafting talent this franchise has ever seen.

epicSocialism4tw
09-04-2011, 10:08 PM
McDaniels was easily the worst at drafting talent this franchise has ever seen.

< 40 names on the draft board, baby. We were so smart that we didn't even need to do our homework.

oubronco
09-04-2011, 10:16 PM
Well i'm a little dissappointed that they didn't pickup a couple DT's but I guess they like who they have and didn't see anyone who could upgrade the position

bombay
09-04-2011, 10:26 PM
I wish they could get a 4 or 5 for Tebow and move Weber up.

epicSocialism4tw
09-04-2011, 10:27 PM
Well i'm a little dissappointed that they didn't pickup a couple DT's but I guess they like who they have and didn't see anyone who could upgrade the position

All we can do is guess.

I don't think the Denver Post has written an article that sheds any real light on any of this stuff in years.

Are they paid by the Broncos or something?

Mogulseeker
09-04-2011, 10:28 PM
I wish they could get a 4 or 5 for Tebow and move Weber up.

Blasphemy.

epicSocialism4tw
09-04-2011, 10:36 PM
I wish they could get a 4 or 5 for Tebow and move Weber up.

I wish we could get a 5 or 6 for Ortie so that we can move Tebow into the starting lineup and watch all of the wild-eyed crazy extremist bigots flee in horror.

It would be fun, wouldn't it?

Yes. It would.

bombay
09-04-2011, 10:41 PM
Blasphemy.

He's a football player. I like Weber's chances better, and you don't need to create a new offense centered around one guy.

epicSocialism4tw
09-04-2011, 10:52 PM
He's a football player. I like Weber's chances better, and you don't need to create a new offense centered around one guy.

Run! Tebow is coming for you abortions!!! Ha!

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
09-04-2011, 11:10 PM
Dear John,

U R tearing this team apart!!!!! Leave now while u still can

Love,

que

You're kidding me right? Cause you're actting like....I don't know... he traded away a probowl QB, traded away a probowl WR, traded away our best TE for the $h!t TE, traded away a 1st round pick for a second pick, turned a top ten running attack into dead last in the league, and fired a DC that turned a bottom 1/3 defence into a top ten defense only to turn it into a dead last defense the next year.

Thanks Que.

strafen
09-05-2011, 12:08 AM
Damn, I had high hopes for McBath.

I'm glad Weber and McCarthy are part of the team again. Add Eron Riley to that list.
I think those three guys are going to be solid contributors.
Weber showed promise, but his future with the Broncos is uncertain at this point until we see more of him and the progress he may make in the future...

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
09-05-2011, 12:37 AM
Dear John,

U R tearing this team apart!!!!! Leave now while u still can

Love,

que

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UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
09-05-2011, 12:44 AM
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NSFW!

ton80
09-05-2011, 02:16 AM
You can thank the front office for that. They neglected to find the answers to the team's problems in free agency like they said they were going to do.

I would like to see EXF evaluate the talent currently on the roster in Fox's system for a year before trying to do too much. Figure out what you have now and then figure out what you really need going into year two with this regime.

Dedhed
09-05-2011, 05:04 AM
It's pretty funny that people are freaking out about the waiver wire as if these guys are going to carry us to a title.

misturanderson
09-05-2011, 08:32 AM
It's pretty funny that people are freaking out about the waiver wire as if these guys are going to carry us to a title.

It has a lot more to do with making a concerted effort to improve this team's depth. So far they have shown minimal interest in improving the team where there are options.

Bigdawg26
09-05-2011, 08:45 AM
I like the practice squad players. I'm glad we were able to keep Beal, Johnson, Riley, and McCarthy!

strafen
09-05-2011, 08:58 AM
Somebody please wake up Xanders. That's great we resigned the guys who just got their asses handed to them by the Cards backups.

How about some upgrades on the Oline, Dline, CB and RB????Haha!!!
That's so true! ROFL!
What we need to do is check the waiver wire and see who the Cardinals released LOL

bowtown
09-05-2011, 09:02 AM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... although I do find this waver wire drama enthralling, please wake me up for football.

Dedhed
09-05-2011, 09:12 AM
It has a lot more to do with making a concerted effort to improve this team's depth. So far they have shown minimal interest in improving the team where there are options.

Is two in the bush> one in the hand?

Que
09-05-2011, 09:22 AM
You're kidding me right? Cause you're actting like....I don't know... he traded away a probowl QB, traded away a probowl WR, traded away our best TE for the $h!t TE, traded away a 1st round pick for a second pick, turned a top ten running attack into dead last in the league, and fired a DC that turned a bottom 1/3 defence into a top ten defense only to turn it into a dead last defense the next year.

Thanks Que.

Lol. Ya was sarcasm. Was actually aimed at elway. Forgot Fox was a John too.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
09-05-2011, 09:55 AM
Lol. Ya was sarcasm. Was actually aimed at elway. Forgot Fox was a John too.

Sorry, I've been hanging around the "war" forum and I broke "Sarcasm" screen on my computer. :)

broncswin
09-05-2011, 10:03 AM
It's pretty funny that people are freaking out about the waiver wire as if these guys are going to carry us to a title.

Not about a title, but damn dude we need some depth...and it's not like we get in the position to be this high up on claiming young talent from good teams very often. I do agree with you about the freaking out part though Hilarious!

misturanderson
09-05-2011, 10:27 AM
Is two in the bush> one in the hand?

I don't really see how that saying applies at all to this situation.

Dedhed
09-05-2011, 10:43 AM
I don't really see how that saying applies at all to this situation.
You should.

You're talking about building depth with unknown players (the birds in the bush) from another organization as opposed to continuing to develop the guys who have been in our camp for the last month (those in hand).

If you like a guys potential and the way he's coming along, it doesn't make sense to get rid of him for a guy who might look better on paper. For every player you pick up, you have to get rid of one. And you're getting rid of a known for an unknown.

Dedhed
09-05-2011, 10:47 AM
Not about a title, but damn dude we need some depth...and it's not like we get in the position to be this high up on claiming young talent from good teams very often. I do agree with you about the freaking out part though Hilarious!
Depth in the regular season is far different from pre-season depth. In the regular season you hopefully don't have to rely on depth except at certain positions, and even then it's easier to hide that player because he's surrounded by better talent.

Yes we need better depth, but it's silly to think that a 4-12 team is going to get solid depth in a single off-season. Therefore it's silly to go chasing waiver wire players and dumping players who you have gotten to know and have a good feeling you can develop them in your system.

Cito Pelon
09-05-2011, 11:09 AM
It has a lot more to do with making a concerted effort to improve this team's depth. So far they have shown minimal interest in improving the team where there are options.

Yeah, but how often does the waiver wire improve the team's depth? And just because there are "options", it doesn't necessarily follow that said option improves the team.

R8R H8R
09-05-2011, 11:29 AM
Depth in the regular season is far different from pre-season depth. In the regular season you hopefully don't have to rely on depth except at certain positions, and even then it's easier to hide that player because he's surrounded by better talent.

Yes we need better depth, but it's silly to think that a 4-12 team is going to get solid depth in a single off-season. Therefore it's silly to go chasing waiver wire players and dumping players who you have gotten to know and have a good feeling you can develop them in your system.

This.
If EFX thinks that no one on the waiver wire was better than the fringe guys we already have, and considering their contract(big consideration), then I'll give them the benefit of the doubt because they watch the tape and do their homework, I don't.

With that being said, I have to think they are trying to renegotiate a contract on a couple of guys though. The problem with bringing in a Tommy Harris or Stichcomb (sp?) is the rule that any vets on your roster on wk 1 is now guaranteed their salary. So maybe they will wait a week to bring in a vet.

DenverBrit
09-05-2011, 12:31 PM
Exactly. It's not that difficult to understand.

Executive vice president of football operations John Elway​ and general manager Brian Xanders had talked of the potential for the Broncos to be active in waiver-wire claims because of their position to secure players. The Broncos, because of their 4-12 record last season, are in the No. 2 slot to claim players off waivers, behind only the Carolina Panthers.

But a player's contract comes with him in a waiver claim. So any players who were drafted by their former teams had multiyear deals the Broncos would have had to take on too.

Denver decided to bypass the long list of players after not seeing one it believed could contribute quickly and also had a contract it wanted to absorb under the salary cap.

The Broncos are expected to attempt to sign another veteran player or two this week. Other than Willis McGahee​ and Ty Warren, the Broncos have signed the bulk of their veteran free agents to one-year deals for at or near the NFL minimums.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18827955