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Smiling Assassin27
09-02-2011, 09:55 AM
Speaker of the House had a pretty solid week. First, he told Obama that his proposed campaign speech (libs still think it's a 'jobs speech'..lol) would not work on the proposed date due to the GOP monkey debate on that night. The President caved and decided to oppose the, gulp, NFL instead.

But just slightly MORE important, Mr. Speaker sent a letter to Obama ripping the new proposed EPA Regulations and DOT rules and their costs to taxpayers on Tuesday. Today:

President Barack Obama, citing the nation's struggling economy, asked the Environmental Protection Agency to withdraw an air quality rule that Republicans and business groups have said could cost tens of billions of dollars a year or more and kill thousands of jobs.

The surprise move came as the economic recovery continued to show signs of stalling, with the labor market failing to add new jobs in August for the first time since September 2010.



President Erkel caved again. Whoodathunk that after resting up in a woefully tacky cave of affluence, Obama would come out refreshed, energized, and perfectly willing to be Boehner's biatch?

epicSocialism4tw
09-02-2011, 01:04 PM
President Erkel caved again. Whoodathunk that after resting up in a woefully tacky cave of affluence, Obama would come out refreshed, energized, and perfectly willing to be Boehner's biatch?

Ouch.

TonyR
09-02-2011, 01:27 PM
I suggest quoting your source. Unless you're the source, in which case I'd suggest just not posting...

epicSocialism4tw
09-02-2011, 01:32 PM
I suggest quoting your source. Unless you're the source, in which case I'd suggest just not posting...

You can always copy/paste his quote and google it.

Rigs11
09-02-2011, 02:28 PM
The righties changing their tune on screaming for bipartannship.interesting.

Smiling Assassin27
09-07-2011, 11:19 AM
And the hits just keep on coming. Boehner's in pwnage mode:

Republicans have decided they're not going to give a rebuttal to President Obama's jobs speech later this week, a decision House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi took as a high affront to the White House.



Say what you will about Boehner, he's put on a clinic on owning the Executive Branch over the last two weeks. In essence, he's said that Obama's masturbatory jobs speech is insignificant, irrelevant, and not even worthy of a response--and he's right. Now Pelosi's manic and doing her pretend indignance act for all to see.

Kinda sad when the grand poobah of congressional impotence still manages to make our President look, well, impotent.

Requiem
09-07-2011, 11:34 AM
Boehner's wet dream would be that Ohio would become relevant to America again. Too bad that state died 150 years ago.

TonyR
09-07-2011, 11:37 AM
LOL Yes, jobs and the economy aren't important.

TonyR
09-07-2011, 12:29 PM
Two things to point out here with respect to the Taibbi article excerpted below. First, progressives don't blindly follow Obama. There are disaffected progressives out there. Second, it's funny that so many righties call Obama a "liberal" considering the bolded part. Stop getting you reality entirely from Fox News and right wing radio and see the truth that's right there in front of you.


Listening to Obama talk about jobs and shared prosperity yesterday reminded me that we are back in campaign mode and Barack Obama has started doing again what he does best – play the part of a progressive. He's good at it. It sounds like he has a natural affinity for union workers and ordinary people when he makes these speeches. But his policies are crafted by representatives of corporate/financial America, who happen to entirely make up his inner circle. I just don't believe this guy anymore, and it's become almost painful to listen to him.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/obama-and-jobs-why-i-dont-believe-him-anymore-20110906

cutthemdown
09-07-2011, 01:57 PM
Obamas jobs bill is mostly just some biz tax cuts and some billions to fund unemployment for another yr or so. Yeah he's a real mastermind of jobs. ALso Boehnes plan to make the President identify all the big ticket changes in regulations that cost over 1 billion was a great political move, and a great move for jobs. This is how repubs create jobs even though liberals trying to say they haven't done anything.

Getting Obama to scrap the EPA ozone changes was so huge. It's the single biggest victory for the new repub majority in the house. They did that while the liberals still have 2/3 of the power. Great great work by the new speaker.

Now he should probably soon give Obama some sort of little victory, nothing too big, but it would be best for the country IMO. Show Obama that when you play ball we will give you a treat as a reward. More then likely though the repubs will be too stupid, to focused on Obama losing the upcoming election, and blow it. The parties, both sides, never go all out for what is best for the country. I don't think they always are like that, but enough to make gridlock and animosity always present. Still Obama showed he will cave to ideas that are the right ones to make. That really doesn't make him weak, it makes him smart. Really, IMO, this decision on the EPA shows Obama has gotten a tad smarter. This is one of his best decisions yet.

Funny the left is all pissed, that is a good thing, it means Obama not stupid enough to always do what they want.

cutthemdown
09-07-2011, 01:59 PM
Let Obama do some sort of a jobs bill, but maybe not 300 billion. So Obama wins a tad, but not enough to make the repubs look like the support more govt spending.

Plus unemployment actually does get spent into the economy, by people who were working at some point, so I can deal with that some.

cutthemdown
09-07-2011, 02:02 PM
Two things to point out here with respect to the Taibbi article excerpted below. First, progressives don't blindly follow Obama. There are disaffected progressives out there. Second, it's funny that so many righties call Obama a "liberal" considering the bolded part. Stop getting you reality entirely from Fox News and right wing radio and see the truth that's right there in front of you.


Listening to Obama talk about jobs and shared prosperity yesterday reminded me that we are back in campaign mode and Barack Obama has started doing again what he does best – play the part of a progressive. He's good at it. It sounds like he has a natural affinity for union workers and ordinary people when he makes these speeches. But his policies are crafted by representatives of corporate/financial America, who happen to entirely make up his inner circle. I just don't believe this guy anymore, and it's become almost painful to listen to him.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/obama-and-jobs-why-i-dont-believe-him-anymore-20110906

Here is what makes it bad for Obama. He is a liberal, he is a progressive, his big dreams for the country are radically left..........but. Obama's core beliefs are easily abandoned because he lacks character. In the end being President is what he wants most. He will play ball against his core beliefs. But cmon he is a liberal, just not a good one with core beliefs he sticks to.

Mr.Meanie
09-07-2011, 02:56 PM
Here is what makes it bad for Obama. He is a liberal, he is a progressive, his big dreams for the country are radically left..........but. Obama's core beliefs are easily abandoned because he lacks character. In the end being President is what he wants most. He will play ball against his core beliefs. But cmon he is a liberal, just not a good one with core beliefs he sticks to.

Not really. He's quite centrist, almost every one of his policy decisions have angered both the far left and far right during his entire presidency.

He skewed left because he wanted to be the anti-Bush in the '08 race, but he veered right back into centrism immediately after being elected. Even his biggest signature accomplishment, health care reform, was dead in the center of the health care debate.

Just because you want to believe Obama is some wild-eyed liberal radical doesn't make it fact.

cutthemdown
09-07-2011, 03:03 PM
Not really. He's quite centrist, almost every one of his policy decisions have angered both the far left and far right during his entire presidency.

He skewed left because he wanted to be the anti-Bush in the '08 race, but he veered right back into centrism immediately after being elected. Even his biggest signature accomplishment, health care reform, was dead in the center of the health care debate.

Just because you want to believe Obama is some wild-eyed liberal radical doesn't make it fact.

You are mistaking what he caved to for what he really wanted. He wanted a single payer system but couldn't get it. it's not that he is a centrist, its that there is enough right wing left in the govt, at the state level, to fight him. That is what pulls him to the center. Not his core beliefs.

Mr.Meanie
09-07-2011, 03:15 PM
You are mistaking what he caved to for what he really wanted. He wanted a single payer system but couldn't get it. it's not that he is a centrist, its that there is enough right wing left in the govt, at the state level, to fight him. That is what pulls him to the center. Not his core beliefs.

I can't speak to what his deepest inner dreams and desires are, only to what his politics are. I actually think he sensed a massive move to the right by the country, and (cynically) aligned his policies to more reflect that shift and keep his views relevant.

But either way, you can't keep calling someone some crazy far out liberal when every single one of his policies say exactly the opposite. Rick Perry for example, who campaigned for Al Gore in late 80's, has moved to the extreme evangelical right. Would you suggest he was a secret moderate or even liberal? Or would you look at his actual politics and call it what it is?

DarkHorse30
09-07-2011, 03:21 PM
Two things to point out here with respect to the Taibbi article excerpted below. First, progressives don't blindly follow Obama. There are disaffected progressives out there. Second, it's funny that so many righties call Obama a "liberal" considering the bolded part. Stop getting you reality entirely from Fox News and right wing radio and see the truth that's right there in front of you.


Listening to Obama talk about jobs and shared prosperity yesterday reminded me that we are back in campaign mode and Barack Obama has started doing again what he does best – play the part of a progressive. He's good at it. It sounds like he has a natural affinity for union workers and ordinary people when he makes these speeches. But his policies are crafted by representatives of corporate/financial America, who happen to entirely make up his inner circle. I just don't believe this guy anymore, and it's become almost painful to listen to him.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/obama-and-jobs-why-i-dont-believe-him-anymore-20110906

Wow - quoting "Rolling Stone"? Am I supposed to roll a blunt before reading?

A word to the wise, "hope" and "change" works only ONE time. He can dress up the pig that he rode into the white house, but it will likely have to "look" like a different animal than he started with. He should take lessons from the bluedog dems of '06 - talk like a conservative, get elected and then do whatever you want.

epicSocialism4tw
09-07-2011, 03:33 PM
I can't speak to what his deepest inner dreams and desires are, only to what his politics are. I actually think he sensed a massive move to the right by the country, and (cynically) aligned his policies to more reflect that shift and keep his views relevant.

But either way, you can't keep calling someone some crazy far out liberal when every single one of his policies say exactly the opposite. Rick Perry for example, who campaigned for Al Gore in late 80's, has moved to the extreme evangelical right. Would you suggest he was a secret moderate or even liberal? Or would you look at his actual politics and call it what it is?

He's no more an "extreme evangelical" than Pelosi is an "extreme Catholic".

You guys are hilarious with your fear of religion.

epicSocialism4tw
09-07-2011, 03:35 PM
Not really. He's quite centrist, almost every one of his policy decisions have angered both the far left and far right during his entire presidency.

He skewed left because he wanted to be the anti-Bush in the '08 race, but he veered right back into centrism immediately after being elected. Even his biggest signature accomplishment, health care reform, was dead in the center of the health care debate.

Just because you want to believe Obama is some wild-eyed liberal radical doesn't make it fact.

Obama is a centrist? Ha!

That's probably the most comical thing I have ever heard.

You guys really need to crawl out of your liberal bunkers and take a look at what the country actually looks like.

It would also help if you guys had a remedial understanding of politics. Its a bargaining game. You never survive with pure partisanship. Doesn't happen.

Mr.Meanie
09-07-2011, 04:32 PM
Obama is a centrist? Ha!

That's probably the most comical thing I have ever heard.

You guys really need to crawl out of your liberal bunkers and take a look at what the country actually looks like.

It would also help if you guys had a remedial understanding of politics. Its a bargaining game. You never survive with pure partisanship. Doesn't happen.

Your world view is so skewed that anything to the left of Saddam you view as extreme liberalism. I think I'll go ahead and disregard your opinion on political viewpoints.

Mr.Meanie
09-07-2011, 04:41 PM
He's no more an "extreme evangelical" than Pelosi is an "extreme Catholic".

You guys are hilarious with your fear of religion.

We already discussed this. Perry ran for governor on a platform of opposing the legalization of sodomy in his state, and supports a constitutional amendment outlawing gay sex. He holds prayer rallies and supports teaching creationism in public schools.

How do you get more extreme evangelical than that?

Arkie
09-07-2011, 05:12 PM
Maybe Obama just can't do whatever he wants as President. Only three Senators were more left in the 109th Congress, and only two in the 110th. He was getting worse. lol

Requiem
09-07-2011, 05:16 PM
Maybe Obama just can't do whatever he wants as President.

Obviously.

DenverBrit
09-07-2011, 06:00 PM
It's far more important to score points for the 'party' than work together and fix the economy.

Both sides are doing nothing more than posturing for the next election.

epicSocialism4tw
09-07-2011, 06:06 PM
Your world view is so skewed that anything to the left of Saddam you view as extreme liberalism. I think I'll go ahead and disregard your opinion on political viewpoints.

No, the problem is that 92% of everyone in the mainstream media identifies themselves as a liberal while ~ 20 % of the country identifies themselves as liberal.

So you guys literally have no idea what the majority of people in the country think. You being a prime example having made the utterly ridiculous statement that "Obama is a centrist", which is about the biggest pile of steaming crap anyone has ever dropped anywhere on the planet.

Spider
09-07-2011, 06:24 PM
It's far more important to score points for the 'party' than work together and fix the economy.

Both sides are doing nothing more than posturing for the next election.

yep

TonyR
09-07-2011, 06:30 PM
Wow - quoting "Rolling Stone"? Am I supposed to roll a blunt before reading?

LOL I love it when people who don't have the first clue what they're talking about run their mouths (or, in this case, keyboards) and pretend they do. What a dope. Matt Taibbi is a highly respected journalist who has written some great pieces over the last few years. If you had any intellectual curiousity you'd know this.

TonyR
09-07-2011, 06:40 PM
Righties love to criticize Obama about the state of the economy and yet they never offer any suggestions on the the economy should be fixed. What should Obama do? What should congress do?


For Obama, who also faces sinking approval ratings as he goes before a joint session of Congress and on national TV, the options are limited. Congress must approve any new measures, and congressional Republicans oppose new spending.

"Anything that would be of a big enough size to really help the labor market is going to have trouble getting through Congress," says Michael Hanson, senior economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. "And anything that can get through Congress will be too small to be much help."

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, International Monetary Fund chief Christine Lagarde and other economists have urged Congress to do more to help job growth and the economy over the next year or two -- and worry about cutting spending later.

Economist Barry Bosworth of the Brookings Institution, for example, says the government needs to spend $700 billion to $800 billion a year to generate healthy job growth.

Read the whole thing here: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obamas-best-jobs-plan-might-apf-4058833055.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

Spider
09-07-2011, 06:52 PM
Wow - quoting "Rolling Stone"? Am I supposed to roll a blunt before reading?

A word to the wise, "hope" and "change" works only ONE time. He can dress up the pig that he rode into the white house, but it will likely have to "look" like a different animal than he started with. He should take lessons from the bluedog dems of '06 - talk like a conservative, get elected and then do whatever you want.

go ahead , smoke another , you obviously did when posting this

TonyR
09-08-2011, 01:21 PM
Sen. David Vitter, the Louisiana Republican who said he would skip President Obama's speech to go to a football kickoff party, won't be participating in the pigskin festivities after all.

Majority Leader Harry Reid has scheduled a vote in the Senate immediately after the speech, a decision that is giving members who were thinking of playing hooky second thoughts. The vote is an important one, too: It will give lawmakers a chance to go on the record with their disapproval of the debt-ceiling hike passed in August, an opportunity no Republican wants to miss.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/reid-schedules-vote-obama-speech-keep-gop-lawmakers-175026515.html