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MVP-06
09-01-2011, 12:31 PM
Is he a HOF'er in your book. I was surprised at alot of his stats considering how much time he missed. If he stays relatively healthy he retires in the top 10 in rushing easy. Personally at first glance I didn't think he belonged in the HOF, but after reading this I would put him in based on producing on such bad teams. Small market probably didn't help as well. I know he wasn't a Bronco but figured it was news worthy on a slow day.





RB Taylor retires after 13 seasons

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Fred Taylor is retiring from the NFL after 13 seasons and nearly 12,000 yards
He'll sign a one-day contract with the Jaguars so he can retire with the team
Taylor still has a house in Jacksonville, but he likely will retire in South Florida
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Fred Taylor spent 11 seasons in Jacksonville and remains the franchise's leading rusher with 11,271 yards.
Fred Taylor spent 11 seasons in Jacksonville and remains the franchise's leading rusher with 11,271 yards.
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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) -- Running back Fred Taylor is retiring from the NFL after 13 seasons and nearly 12,000 yards.

Taylor will sign a one-day contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars on Friday so he can formally retire with the team that drafted him ninth overall in 1998.

The ceremony surely will be an emotional one, with family members, friends and former teammates on hand. The former Florida star spent 11 seasons in Jacksonville and remains the franchise's leading rusher with 11,271 yards. He ranks third with 286 catches and fourth with 2,361 receiving yards.

More telling than his stats was his transition from a shy college kid who seemed to find trouble in Gainesville into a model player who became a team leader and a strong voice for league issues. Coaches and teammates lauded Taylor as one of the hardest-working players in Jacksonville's locker room. Media members and team personnel regarded him as the easiest to deal with, a class act on and off the field, regardless of wins or losses.

Taylor spent the last two seasons playing sparingly in New England, where he ran 106 times for 424 yards and four touchdowns.

"I want to thank every1 who has directly or indirectly supported my career and help shape my character," Taylor wrote on his Twitter account, saluting all "Gators/Jags/Pats."

Taylor ranks 15th on the NFL's all-time rushing list with 11,695 yards. He is 379 yards behind Thurman Thomas and 343 ahead of John Riggins - both in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Taylor's induction might not be a guarantee. He missed chunks of time because of injuries early in his career, never made the Super Bowl - not even with the Patriots - and played in just one Pro Bowl.

He ran for 1,202 yards and five touchdowns in 2007 and earned his first trip to Hawaii. He probably should have made it before, but playing in small-market Jacksonville did little to help his cause. He often joked that he was the NFL's version of famed daytime actress Susan Lucci.

As Taylor's career started winding down, he talked openly about wanting to pass Jim Brown (12,312 yards) on the all-time rushing list. But once the Jaguars parted ways with Taylor after the 2008 season, he started to realize it might not happen.

Injuries might have been the real culprit.

Taylor missed 24 games over his first four seasons and was ineffective in several more because of various injuries. He had a strained hamstring that sidelined him six games in 1999, a strained knee ligament that kept him out of the first three games in 2000, and a torn groin muscle that prevented him from playing the final 14 games in 2001. That three-year stretch left him labeled as soft, brittle and injury prone.

But "Fragile Fred" proved all the naysayers wrong by starting 46 consecutive games between 2002 and 2004, an impressive streak at a position that deals with more pain and punishment than any other. Taylor even played through a broken bone in his foot in 2004.

Through it all, he became the face of the small-market franchise.

Taylor had hoped to spend his entire career in Jacksonville, but the Jaguars released him following the 2008 season as part of a rebuilding project. By then, Taylor had admittedly lost a step and knew the team wanted to turn the offense over to Maurice Jones-Drew. Coach Jack Del Rio flew to South Florida to personally give Taylor the news.

Taylor still has a house in Jacksonville, but he likely will retire in South Florida where he can watch his son play high school football. Kelvin Taylor, a junior at Glades Day School, has turned heads since making the varsity team as an eighth-grader. He is less than 2,500 yards shy of the state's career rushing record of 8,804 yards (Emmitt Smith) and has become one of the most coveted recruits in the country.

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bronco militia
09-01-2011, 12:33 PM
no way on the HOF

Dedhed
09-01-2011, 12:35 PM
HOF?

Not IMO. I'm not a big fan of putting people in the hall of fame because they had long careers. I like great players like Gale Sayers and TD.

That One Guy
09-01-2011, 12:40 PM
He can go in after Rod Smith does.

MVP-06
09-01-2011, 12:42 PM
I think now a days you need a long career to justify being a HOF. If you read the articel he did most of his damage over an 8-9 year span on some pretty bad teams. I'm not saying he is a lock, but being right behind Thurman Thomas and ahead of Riggins is pretty good company

Smilin Assassin
09-01-2011, 12:42 PM
He can go in after Rod Smith does.

and after Terrell Davis does.

Man-Goblin
09-01-2011, 12:43 PM
Just shows how unfortunate TD's injuries really were. He and Taylor were the best two backs in the league at one point, and that seems forever ago.

epicSocialism4tw
09-01-2011, 12:44 PM
Terrell Davis.

DBroncos4life
09-01-2011, 12:46 PM
He passed the magic 10K mark so he will be in the HOF.

That One Guy
09-01-2011, 12:47 PM
I think now a days you need a long career to justify being a HOF. If you read the articel he did most of his damage over an 8-9 year span on some pretty bad teams. I'm not saying he is a lock, but being right behind Thurman Thomas and ahead of Riggins is pretty good company

The competition is so fierce, you really need a long career of successful years. A long career makes you a lock for the hall of pretty good but I would say guys like LT2 didn't even hold up long enough to really justify HOF. At the same time though, I can't think of a single RB in the game still that I'd say fits that bill.

broncosteven
09-01-2011, 12:47 PM
I still think you have to have some back story or accomplishments that put you over the top to make it into a hall of FAME. It isn't the Hall of Longevity.

A guy who one a league MVP, SB MVP, broke 2000 yards in one year, won more than one SB should be a lock no matter how long he played.

MVP-06
09-01-2011, 12:48 PM
TD got screwed by his knee, finished 4,000 yards shy of Taylor though. Kind of hard to put TD over Taylor, although I believe he was the superior back.

epicSocialism4tw
09-01-2011, 12:49 PM
He passed the magic 10K mark so he will be in the HOF.

If thats the case then there's some serious problems with the way the HOF evaluates players.

I could see Taylor as one of those players who does not get in until all of the media from the current generation have left or died off, and some guys who only really have his stats to look at vote him in.

epicSocialism4tw
09-01-2011, 12:49 PM
TD got screwed by his knee, finished 4,000 yards shy of Taylor though. Kind of hard to put TD over Taylor, although I believe he was the superior back.

Nobody believes that Davis was the superior back.

Everybody knows it.

DBroncos4life
09-01-2011, 12:59 PM
If thats the case then there's some serious problems with the way the HOF evaluates players.

I could see Taylor as one of those players who does not get in until all of the media from the current generation have left or died off, and some guys who only really have his stats to look at vote him in.

I can only think of 3 RBs that have topped the 10K mark that are not in the HOF. Corey Dillion, Warrick Dunn, and Rickey Watters.

Goobzilla
09-01-2011, 01:14 PM
I can only think of 3 RBs that have topped the 10K mark that are not in the HOF. Corey Dillion, Warrick Dunn, and Rickey Watters.

And none of the 4 are worthy IMO. No one feared Fragile Fred Taylor in his heyday, no coaches gameplanned to stop Fred Taylor. If there was a Hall of Very Good, I'd probably vote for him and the other 3.

UberBroncoMan
09-01-2011, 01:14 PM
66 rushing TD's in 13 years along with 2.4k receiving yards and 8 TD's.

Sorry, that's not a complete player.

He just had a long ****ing career. Good for him on that. He's no HOF'er. He was a consistent, quality RB.

To put into perspective, Davis had 56 rushing TD's in his first FOUR YEARS, along with around 1.2k receiving and 5 TD's.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-01-2011, 01:14 PM
LOL HOF

DBroncos4life
09-01-2011, 01:17 PM
And none of the 4 are worthy IMO. No one feared Fragile Fred Taylor in his heyday, no coaches gameplanned to stop Fred Taylor. If there was a Hall of Very Good, I'd probably vote for him and the other 3.

No coaches game planned to stop him? You know this how???

TheChamp24
09-01-2011, 01:20 PM
I can only think of 3 RBs that have topped the 10K mark that are not in the HOF. Corey Dillion, Warrick Dunn, and Rickey Watters.

So Jamal Lewis is a HOFer? Dillon? Eddie George? Edgerrin James? What about Ricky Williams who is only 500 yards short of 10,000?
People overrate total yardage for a career IMO in terms of HOF status.

Smiling Assassin27
09-01-2011, 01:22 PM
no way on the HOF

nuff said.

Goobzilla
09-01-2011, 01:26 PM
So Jamal Lewis is a HOFer? Dillon? Eddie George? Edgerrin James? What about Ricky Williams who is only 500 yards short of 10,000?
People overrate total yardage for a career IMO in terms of HOF status.

Yes, absolutely. 52 YPG for 12 seasons gets you to 10,000 career rushing yards. Yawn.

DBroncos4life
09-01-2011, 01:28 PM
So Jamal Lewis is a HOFer? Dillon? Eddie George? Edgerrin James? What about Ricky Williams who is only 500 yards short of 10,000?
People overrate total yardage for a career IMO in terms of HOF status.

I would say yes to Lewis, James and George. Dillon might over time as well. I doubt Williams does because of the drugs.

Kaylore
09-01-2011, 01:30 PM
Fred Taylor is the kind of back that would get in several years after eligibility if he played on the Giants or the Cowboys. He doesn't so he won't but its these types of players going in in lieu of others that makes me despise the HOF.

DBroncos4life
09-01-2011, 01:34 PM
Yes, absolutely. 52 YPG for 12 seasons gets you to 10,000 career rushing yards. Yawn.

How many RBs have done this in the history of the NFL?

broncosteven
09-01-2011, 01:39 PM
How many RBs have done this in the history of the NFL?

How many have gone over 2k in one season?

Actually if you include the playoffs TD holds the record for rushing yards in one season.

DBroncos4life
09-01-2011, 01:47 PM
How many have gone over 2k in one season?

Actually if you include the playoffs TD holds the record for rushing yards in one season.

I never said TD didn't belong in the HOF either. Some posters act like rushing for 11k or playing for 12 years in the NFL is easy.

I think there was a run of good backs that went over 10K in a short span. Soon I think there will be less and less backs doing it and then the ones that did will get bumped into the HOF.

Crushaholic
09-01-2011, 01:59 PM
Only players with national exposure get into the HOF, these days. That leaves out Fred Taylor...

Mountain Bronco
09-01-2011, 02:00 PM
I hope the **** not. It isn't the hall of good people. He was a very good back in a leauge filled with good backs. There was never anything special about the guy.

ColoradoDarin
09-01-2011, 03:03 PM
No.

Fred Taylor was the Kyle Orton of RBs. Put up a lot of yards between the 20s and always get hurt.

broncosteven
09-01-2011, 03:09 PM
I never said TD didn't belong in the HOF either. Some posters act like rushing for 11k or playing for 12 years in the NFL is easy.

I think there was a run of good backs that went over 10K in a short span. Soon I think there will be less and less backs doing it and then the ones that did will get bumped into the HOF.

Not going after you dude.

I think that both are big accomplishments. I agree we both think TD should be in I just think it is harder to break off 2k than it is to run for 10k over a long period in time and it irritates me that people are so quick to dismiss what TD accomplished before SOB and the lepsis ruined his career.

broncosteven
09-01-2011, 03:10 PM
Only players backed by Rik Gosslin get into the HOF, these days. That leaves out Fred Taylor...

Fixed it for you.

briane
09-01-2011, 03:14 PM
First Joe Horn gets cut then Fred Taylor Retires.....its been a rough week. :-/

Mile High Mojoe
09-01-2011, 03:30 PM
No way does he belong in the HOF. He was hurt for more than half his career. He could be effective when he wasn’t hurt but most notably he was a bad fumbler and at critical times in games. Another thing about his stats that people may forget was he seemed to buckle in playoff games. He wasn’t a money guy, he'd rip off 200 yards in one game then a measly 25 the next. He had great speed to the outside but he wasn’t a power back who could be counted to break the first tackle. He's just another good RB but not an elite one and certainly not worthy of the HOF.

Requiem
09-01-2011, 04:03 PM
Fred Taylor was a great football player. If he gets into the Hall, great! If he doesn't, that's unfortunate. One of my favorite runners to watch growing up. :)

gunns
09-01-2011, 04:10 PM
Hell no. If TD's injuries are held against him, then so should Taylors. 7 less years but only 6 less rushing TD's, only 4000 less rushing yds. Taylor wasn't as good in his first 4 years or accomplish half of what TD did in 4 years.

Bronx33
09-01-2011, 05:41 PM
So Jamal Lewis is a HOFer? Dillon? Eddie George? Edgerrin James? What about Ricky Williams who is only 500 yards short of 10,000?
People overrate total yardage for a career IMO in terms of HOF status.


It a depends on the biased media which always seems to get in the way of legit deserving players.

gunns
09-01-2011, 06:04 PM
So Jamal Lewis is a HOFer? Dillon? Eddie George? Edgerrin James? What about Ricky Williams who is only 500 yards short of 10,000?
People overrate total yardage for a career IMO in terms of HOF status.

Yes.

The one that will piss me off if he ever gets in is Jerome Bettis. Overoveroverrated. Let him go into the Bowling HOF.

epicSocialism4tw
09-01-2011, 06:45 PM
Yes.

The one that will piss me off if he ever gets in is Jerome Bettis. Overoveroverrated. Let him go into the Bowling HOF.

Absolutely.

He'll get in though because he's a Steeler sentimental favorite.

Lestat
09-01-2011, 07:28 PM
is he a first ballot guy? no, but he is definitely a guy who had the career to be a HOF'er.
he was the man on some really bad Jags teams when everyone knew what they were going to do and he still gashed them.

the problem with him is that while he had a very good career and a long one. he wasn't the oomph type of player that most HOF players are. they were considered "special" and had certain seasons to back it up.
he's more like that guy in baseball who racks up the numbers by steadily having very good seasons but never those plateau MVP nominated seasons where he gets all-star accolades.

Agamemnon
09-01-2011, 10:18 PM
Greatness should outweigh longevity in my opinion. Unfortunately the idiots that run the HoF don't seem to agree.

TD>>>>>>>>>Fred Taylor

ZONA
09-01-2011, 11:48 PM
Nope - way too many great player in front of him that still haven't gotten in. Simple as that.

Punisher
09-01-2011, 11:54 PM
no

colonelbeef
09-02-2011, 07:15 AM
If Terrell Davis isn't in the HOF, then Fred Taylor certainly doesn't belong.

TheChamp24
09-02-2011, 07:54 AM
is he a first ballot guy? no, but he is definitely a guy who had the career to be a HOF'er.
he was the man on some really bad Jags teams when everyone knew what they were going to do and he still gashed them.

the problem with him is that while he had a very good career and a long one. he wasn't the oomph type of player that most HOF players are. they were considered "special" and had certain seasons to back it up.
he's more like that guy in baseball who racks up the numbers by steadily having very good seasons but never those plateau MVP nominated seasons where he gets all-star accolades.

Jaguars were actually a pretty solid team during his tenure there. They weren't "really bad" like you say.
He never was a superstar, elite talent. That is what gets me these days. People look at stats instead of looking at film and he players did comparatively to their peers. Taylor was not better than his peers.

Agamemnon
09-02-2011, 09:49 AM
If Terrell Davis isn't in the HOF, then Fred Taylor certainly doesn't belong.

There are quite a few backs already in there that this could be said of.

Goobzilla
09-02-2011, 10:09 AM
His kid can play a little RB too

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