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montrose
08-29-2011, 09:19 AM
http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2689/andre-gurode

Instant upgrade over JD Walton?

Smiling Assassin27
08-29-2011, 09:21 AM
can he play DT?

Br0nc0Buster
08-29-2011, 09:21 AM
Hmmm, something seems off here
He would certainly be an upgrade over Walton, but why would Dallas cut a pro bowl caliber center?

Smiling Assassin27
08-29-2011, 09:22 AM
Hmmm, something seems off here
He would certainly be an upgrade over Walton, but why would Dallas cut a pro bowl caliber center?

They drafted a center in round 1, i believe. still, why not keep him as a backup?

Mogulseeker
08-29-2011, 09:22 AM
I like him... bring him in.

theAPAOps5
08-29-2011, 09:22 AM
Wow, that is a drastic fall from starter to cut. I knew Andre from going to school up there and have followed him. He was always a solid starter but had fallen off, especially towards the end of last year.

ward63
08-29-2011, 09:23 AM
Even if he's not better than Walton, he's DEFINITELY better than Hoch or anybody else we could put at center.

theAPAOps5
08-29-2011, 09:23 AM
They drafted a center in round 1, i believe. still, why not keep him as a backup?

I think the center got hurt in preseason too. I think they cut him to give him a chance to land on another team before the mass cuts after the last week of preseason.

Smiling Assassin27
08-29-2011, 09:24 AM
I think the center got hurt in preseason too. I think they cut him to give him a chance to land on another team before the mass cuts after the last week of preseason.

he prolly has a pretty large cap hit too, i'm guessing.

Smiling Assassin27
08-29-2011, 09:24 AM
isn't this the guy whose face haynesworth stomped on?

illbroncsfn
08-29-2011, 09:25 AM
Wow, that is a drastic fall from starter to cut. I knew Andre from going to school up there and have followed him. He was always a solid starter but had fallen off, especially towards the end of last year.

There was a big drop off in his level of play last year....

Possible cheap depth/replacement level player signing at worst?

montrose
08-29-2011, 09:27 AM
Hmmm, something seems off here
He would certainly be an upgrade over Walton, but why would Dallas cut a pro bowl caliber center?

They're trying to go to a smaller OL - it's why they cut Leonard Davis and Marc Columbo too.

They drafted a center in round 1, i believe. still, why not keep him as a backup?

Money, he wouldn't be brought in as a backup here either, IMO. He'll command starting C money - I could see KC taking a run at him.

isn't this the guy whose face haynesworth stomped on?

Yes

jhns
08-29-2011, 09:27 AM
He isn't good. They are starting a couple rookies and are having problems on their line. That should say everything you need to know about the guys that get cut.

bendog
08-29-2011, 09:30 AM
7 MIL plus cap, 6 mil plus base salary

And he really sucks. really, really.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=0EB6199A-D12A-A5A2-606843D48459257A

broncogary
08-29-2011, 09:31 AM
They drafted a center in round 1, i believe. still, why not keep him as a backup?

* COWBOYS PICKS

1st Round, 9th Pick (9th Overall)
OT Tyron Smith, USC
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2nd Round, 8th Pick (40th Overall)
LB Bruce Carter, North Carolina
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3rd Round, 7th Pick (71st Overall)
RB DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma
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4th Round, 13th Pick (110th Overall)
OL David Arkin, Missouri St.
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5th Round, 12th Pick (143rd Overall)
DB Josh Thomas, Buffalo
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6th Round, 11th Pick (176th Overall)
WR Dwayne Harris, E. Carolina
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7th Round, 17th Pick (220th Overall)
FB Shaun Chapas, Georgia
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7th Round, 49th Pick (252nd Overall)
OL Bill Nagy, Wisconsin
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The 4th and 7th rounders could be centers, but the 1st is definitely an OT.

Carmelo15
08-29-2011, 09:35 AM
This was a salary move. The Cowboys had a very high payroll and would have cut him alongside veterans Roy Williams & Marion Barber. However Gurode was injured so that move wasn't possible. Cowboys tried him to take a paycut before releasing him. He makes $5.5M this year. That's a lot of money for a center. Thst being said theres no question he'd be an upgrade to JD Walton. This guy can play all 3 interior positions as well. I say we should bring him in

pricejj
08-29-2011, 09:38 AM
If Xanders was smart, he would bring in Andre Gurode immediately. Andre is a quality character team guy, 5 time pro-bowler, who has a lot left in the tank. This team is a center, and a quality DT away from the playoffs. Had a 30 minute conversation with Andre when he was at CU, I have always been a big fan.

Bring him in.

Get it done EFX.

bendog
08-29-2011, 09:39 AM
http://www.umterps.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/costa_phil00.html

This sucks. This is the kind of guy the broncos used to uncover. 3 year starter at three different positions. Father's a former Mr Something weightlifter and the kid LIKEs moving heavy things in the weightroom. Jerry Jones is a jerk, but he's willing to pay a guy like Houck to coach the oline.

Smiling Assassin27
08-29-2011, 09:40 AM
* COWBOYS PICKS

1st Round, 9th Pick (9th Overall)
OT Tyron Smith, USC
Bio | Highlights | Call
2nd Round, 8th Pick (40th Overall)
LB Bruce Carter, North Carolina
Bio | Highlights | Call
3rd Round, 7th Pick (71st Overall)
RB DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma
Bio | Highlights | Call
4th Round, 13th Pick (110th Overall)
OL David Arkin, Missouri St.
Bio | Highlights | Call
5th Round, 12th Pick (143rd Overall)
DB Josh Thomas, Buffalo
Bio | Call
6th Round, 11th Pick (176th Overall)
WR Dwayne Harris, E. Carolina
Bio | Call
7th Round, 17th Pick (220th Overall)
FB Shaun Chapas, Georgia
Bio | Highlights | Call
7th Round, 49th Pick (252nd Overall)
OL Bill Nagy, Wisconsin
Bio | Highlights | Call

The 4th and 7th rounders could be centers, but the 1st is definitely an OT.

thanks for the info.

bendog
08-29-2011, 09:40 AM
This sucks. This is the kind of guy the broncos used to uncover. 3 year starter at three different positions. Father's a former Mr Something weightlifter and the kid LIKEs moving heavy things in the weightroom. Jerry Jones is a jerk, but he's willing to pay a guy like Houck to coach the oline.

http://www.umterps.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/costa_phil00.html

Ziggy
08-29-2011, 09:51 AM
The Broncos can have him if they want. Carolina isn't going to claim him at that salary after paying Ryan Khalil. Denver is next up on the waiver wire. If he clears waivers, he'll probably have at least 10 teams bidding for his services. He's not only be an upgrade over JD Walton, he's be an upgrade at LG also.

BroncosSR
08-29-2011, 09:56 AM
The Broncos can have him if they want. Carolina isn't going to claim him at that salary after paying Ryan Khalil. Denver is next up on the waiver wire. If he clears waivers, he'll probably have at least 10 teams bidding for his services. He's not only be an upgrade over JD Walton, he's be an upgrade at LG also.

I believe he was cut by Dallas. He's free to sign with anybody and the waiver wire doesn't apply.

CEH
08-29-2011, 09:58 AM
Don't think he passes through waivers .
I think Denver passes unless they want to replace JD Walton.

I "assume" in otherwords I'm "guessing" put it another way this is my "theory" it hasn't been "validated" that Denver has not given up on JD and will bring in a seasoned Vet to teach JD not replace him

bronco militia
08-29-2011, 10:00 AM
Don't think he passes through waivers .
I think Denver passes unless they want to replace JD Walton.

I "assume" in otherwords I'm "guessing" put it another way this is my "theory" it hasn't been "validated" that Denver has not given up on JD and will bring in a seasoned Vet to teach JD not replace him

you think someone will fork over $5-6 million to sign him?

CEH
08-29-2011, 10:07 AM
you think someone will fork over $5-6 million to sign him?

No but I think he will have several suitors for whom he will start. Just not sure Denver will be one of them. If Denver wants to move on from JD I think Andre would be a good pickup

Kaylore
08-29-2011, 10:16 AM
He's got some knee issues of late.

Ziggy
08-29-2011, 10:16 AM
I believe he was cut by Dallas. He's free to sign with anybody and the waiver wire doesn't apply.

Every player that's cut in the NFL is subject to the waiver wire, unless they changed that rule with the new CBA.

WolfpackGuy
08-29-2011, 10:17 AM
Didn't he have problems with shotgun snaps?

I seem to remember him zinging a few by or over Romo in recent years.

DeuceOfClub
08-29-2011, 10:21 AM
Romo is too short.

pricejj
08-29-2011, 10:23 AM
Andre Gurode is the best center in the league.

Since he has more than 4 years of experience, he is not subject to the waiver wire.

I would offer him $5.5M per year...

We gave Ty Warren $4M per... he wasn't coming off of 5 straight pro-bowls.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
08-29-2011, 10:32 AM
Do we pick up the contract, when we pick a player off the wavier wire?

I believe Ty Warrens contract has a lot incentive to come to the $4 mil/per year.

Br0nc0Buster
08-29-2011, 10:33 AM
Every player that's cut in the NFL is subject to the waiver wire, unless they changed that rule with the new CBA.

Is this new to the new CBA?
Because I think under the old one anyone with over 4 years of experience was not eligible for the waiver wire

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-29-2011, 10:34 AM
When the Cowboys played the Chargers last week, a few of the reputable SD players were telling ESPN Dallas that Gurode was "done". Said he was just grabbing guys out there, could barely get out of his stance and lumbered around. Not sure if it was the knee from the offseason, but he hasn't looked great for some time now. I still think Denver should bring him in, let him recover and regain his form while working behind Walton on the depth chart. Part of his release was the money, yes, but the other part was Dallas thinking there's not a lot left in Andre. He's been a great guy here, rarely missed a start.

PRBronco
08-29-2011, 10:34 AM
Andre Gurode is the best center in the league.



ROFL! LOL

BroncosSR
08-29-2011, 10:38 AM
Is this new to the new CBA?
Because I think under the old one anyone with over 4 years of experience was not eligible for the waiver wire

That was the impression i was under as well. Not sure if it changed or not.

Ziggy
08-29-2011, 10:40 AM
Is this new to the new CBA?
Because I think under the old one anyone with over 4 years of experience was not eligible for the waiver wire

No, that was my mistake. He is indeed a free agent.

pricejj
08-29-2011, 10:51 AM
ROFL! LOL

5 straight pro-bowls don't lie.

He is recovering from knee surgery that he had in June. He also had his knee scoped after the 2009 season... could be a major problem.

StugotsIII
08-29-2011, 10:54 AM
Andre Gurode is the best center in the league.

Since he has more than 4 years of experience, he is not subject to the waiver wire.

I would offer him $5.5M per year...

We gave Ty Warren $4M per... he wasn't coming off of 5 straight pro-bowls.

Nick Mangold says hi.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-29-2011, 10:58 AM
5 straight pro-bowls don't lie.

He is recovering from knee surgery that he had in June. He also had his knee scoped after the 2009 season... could be a major problem.

I wouldn't set the bar with Pro Bowl appearances.

PRBronco
08-29-2011, 10:59 AM
5 straight pro-bowls don't lie.

He is recovering from knee surgery that he had in June. He also had his knee scoped after the 2009 season... could be a major problem.

Actually they do, the Pro Bowl is a joke.

ghwk
08-29-2011, 11:06 AM
he prolly has a pretty large cap hit too, i'm guessing.

I think I heard around 5 Mil.

Broncoman13
08-29-2011, 11:19 AM
By name I would say hell yeah, bring him in. But I freely admit that I've not heard much good about him the last couple years. His play could have significantly dropped off... but the Saints thought the same thing about Willie Roaf and he went on to have another four or five good years with the Chefs... Right?

Tombstone RJ
08-29-2011, 11:20 AM
Hmmm, something seems off here
He would certainly be an upgrade over Walton, but why would Dallas cut a pro bowl caliber center?

yah, its probably his fat contract that is the problem.

Flex Gunmetal
08-29-2011, 11:29 AM
5 straight pro-bowls don't lie.


lmao, they certainly do. Ask John Lynch.

pricejj
08-29-2011, 11:31 AM
Nick Mangold says hi.

Andre Gurode gives his regards.

pricejj
08-29-2011, 11:35 AM
lmao, they certainly do. Ask John Lynch.

LOL

All you jokers who think Andre Gurode isn't one heckuva football player... need to take your heads out of your collective a$$es. If his knee won't heal properly that's one thing. If it does....

J.D. Walton is a 2nd rate center in the prime of his career, which is still several years away.

UberBroncoMan
08-29-2011, 11:57 AM
On August 29, 2011, he was released after failing to reach an agreement on a restructured contract.

There we go.

He's 33 btw. Which isn't young by any means, but it may give Walton some development and learning from a proven vet.

gyldenlove
08-29-2011, 12:01 PM
5 straight pro-bowls don't lie.

He is recovering from knee surgery that he had in June. He also had his knee scoped after the 2009 season... could be a major problem.

He played like **** last year, the only reason he made the pro bowl was the Dallas fans stuffing the ballot box as usual - he wasn't even a top 15 center in the league last year.

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2011, 12:01 PM
Actually they do, the Pro Bowl is a joke.

Especially when it comes to the Cowboys.

I swear there's a mandated minmum of Dallas Cowboys for the pro bowl every year.

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2011, 12:02 PM
On August 29, 2011, he was released after failing to reach an agreement on a restructured contract.

There we go.

He's 33 btw. Which isn't young by any means, but it may give Walton some development and learning from a proven vet.

Isn't he 32?

UberBroncoMan
08-29-2011, 12:02 PM
He's got some knee issues of late.

Yeah, he had knee surgery in June. Didn't help him there. He got pushed by an undrafted second year center and that's why they let him go. Not a guy who is better, but pushing, a cheap contract, years younger, etc made that a pretty easy decision.

UberBroncoMan
08-29-2011, 12:03 PM
Isn't he 32?

Sorry, he's 43.

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2011, 12:04 PM
Sorry, he's 43.

Yeah, he's 32: http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/6906080/dallas-cowboys-cut-pro-bowl-center-andre-gurode

Kaylore
08-29-2011, 12:47 PM
Sorry, he's 43.

He's 73

Traveler
08-29-2011, 12:55 PM
Philly C Jamaal Jackson lost his job as starter. Wonder if Philly plans to release him?

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
08-29-2011, 01:07 PM
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NSFW! "Coming to America"

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Great13
08-29-2011, 03:01 PM
What about Leonard Davis at LG? If that doesn't open up the running game...

TonyR
08-29-2011, 03:19 PM
Philly C Jamaal Jackson lost his job as starter. Wonder if Philly plans to release him?

They drafted some kid in the 6th round who may take the job. Their new O-line coach wants to go smaller. Right now it looks like it could be a disaster, much like Denver trying that Jim Bates defense without the right players.

Punisher
08-29-2011, 03:33 PM
would be a slick move if goes down

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
08-29-2011, 03:36 PM
What about Leonard Davis at LG? If that doesn't open up the running game...

Are there any issues with Davis? Cause I'm not to confident with Beadle either.

StugotsIII
08-29-2011, 03:44 PM
Andre Gurode gives his regards.

You mean the guy that got cut?

FireFly
08-29-2011, 03:55 PM
None of the players that get cut this week are going to be world beaters, that's why they're getting cut.

The ones that get cut this week, are likely better than those cut next week though since teams release vets a bit earlier to give them a chance to catch on with other teams.

We don't have ANY decent OL depth. He would be a great acquisition imo.

extralife
08-29-2011, 04:55 PM
I'd love to have him, but he's going to want to start. We're rebuilding, we have young players at the interior of the line that we want to season, and Walton is already a team captain. They aren't going to replace him.

Rascal
08-29-2011, 05:12 PM
After talking to some Cowboy fans, who are not looking thru blue tinted classes and honestly critical, they said this was a move they expected.

Dallas is going to quicker faster lineman and Gurode can't do it. Andre has usually struggled with speed, but was excellent versus power. But the limited mobilit he did have is gone after numerous knee surgeries. Because of his knees he cannot bend anymore, and therefore cannot get leverage which means he cannot handle power either.

Stick a fork in him.

pricejj
08-29-2011, 07:23 PM
You mean the guy that got cut?

The guy who is one of the best Colorado Buffaloes EVER.... yeah him. Super nice guy. I was walking home from the grocery store once, and he was going the same way I was. He wasn't even concerned about his pro career, knew he would make it in any profession he chose no matter what. He was making plans to become a physical therapist, and got drafted #37 overall. He wanted to hook me up with a girl to go to the CU Black Student Alliance dance... and I ain't even black. What do ya know? 9 years and 5 pro bowls later he's looking for a new team. Hope the Broncos pick him up.

cutthemdown
08-29-2011, 07:28 PM
can he play DT?

he can play guard and center.

mwill07
08-29-2011, 07:39 PM
We are what...$20MM under the cap, right? If we sign him off of waivers, that's $5MM off of that...he would be a 1/4 of our upcoming "cut-down day" spending spree.

If his play is truly diminished due to injury, than we would be better off passing. If he wanted to come in at a reduced contract (i.e. after he clears waivers) and gives us a "hometown" discount, I'm all for it....we could definitely use some depth.

Also, I don't think he could come in and start immediately. Walton has two camps now of working with essentially the same guys, has the signals down, and all that. I'm no expert, but from what I understand a successful line is one that is used to working together, and it all starts with the C. Bringing in a new guy could disrupt everything that they have been building. Much easier to do in July than late August.

BMarsh615
08-29-2011, 08:10 PM
I'm told the Broncos will NOT pursue recently waived Andre Gurode

https://twitter.com/#!/VicLombardi/status/108374847721181184