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epicSocialism4tw
08-26-2011, 09:52 PM
"It‘s the inaction of the federal government that’s pushing Arizona lawmakers to take the matter of immigration into their own hands."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/arizona-lawmakers-seek-private-donations-for-border-fences/

TailgateNut
08-26-2011, 09:59 PM
It wont do any good. The damn Texans aren't doing a damn thing and So-cal is probably 25% illegal. The whole damn thing is just anothe money driven joke. We spend countless millions building fences and monitoring systems which are a waste of time until we hit the employers in the wallet.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-27-2011, 05:49 AM
It wont do any good. The damn Texans aren't doing a damn thing and So-cal is probably 25% illegal. The whole damn thing is just anothe money driven joke. We spend countless millions building fences and monitoring systems which are a waste of time until we hit the employers in the wallet.

This.

If you want to solve the problem, then you have to go after those who benefit most from illegal immigration: cheap labor conservatives.

For these sociopathic a$$holes, greed has no "off" switch, so they won't stop until the world's resources are concentrated in the smallest conceivable number of hands and the rest of us are just serfs.

Requiem
08-27-2011, 07:06 AM
Deportation efforts have stepped up immensely under Obama. However, I agree with the above ^.

Spider
08-27-2011, 07:30 AM
east Berlin wall building company looking for work .......

TailgateNut
08-27-2011, 07:49 AM
east Berlin wall building company looking for work .......


This isn't about a country seperated due to war. This is about an "illegal invasion from one country to another".

Spider
08-27-2011, 08:03 AM
This isn't about a country seperated due to war. This is about an "illegal invasion from one country to another".

I see lets be like china ........good distinction .....to me a wall is a wall , but hey

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-27-2011, 12:43 PM
Just a few short years ago, Blackwater was positioning itself to move into the border security business. Wonder what ever happened?

November 9, 2007

Full Spectrum Mercenaries

Blackwater Goes to Mexico

by JOHN ROSS

http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/11/09/blackwater-goes-to-mexico/

Bronco_Beerslug
08-28-2011, 06:09 AM
"It‘s the inaction of the federal government that’s pushing Arizona lawmakers to take the matter of immigration into their own hands."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/arizona-lawmakers-seek-private-donations-for-border-fences/
So, once again, you can't actually comment on the article, only cut and paste. This makes you what, a parrot?

TailgateNut
08-28-2011, 06:21 AM
I see lets be like china ........good distinction .....to me a wall is a wall , but hey


Good grief you are a moron 24/7/365. Just because you like those "messicans" doesn't negate the fact that they are breaking the laws. Laws like identity theft, tax fraud, and theft of services.

Spider
08-28-2011, 07:13 AM
Good grief you are a moron 24/7/365. Just because you like those "messicans" doesn't negate the fact that they are breaking the laws. Laws like identity theft, tax fraud, and theft of services.

Hilarious! u calling me a moron .............Just a few post ago you really tried to distinguish that a wall built to keep people out is different then a wall built after a war ? LMAO hello Mcfly the Berlin wall wasnt a monument Genius , LOL it had a purpose ............Guess what it was

Boomhauer
08-28-2011, 09:40 AM
This isn't about a country seperated due to war. This is about an "illegal invasion from one country to another".

That's the difference between the Berlin Wall and the Great Wall of China which was designed to keep Mongrel hoards form invading, pillaging and looting the country. The US should take a similar approach, but with modern interpretation and without the immense cost (the 'virtual wall' is just a pork pit - ineffective and incredibly expensive).

Spider
08-28-2011, 10:50 AM
That's the difference between the Berlin Wall and the Great Wall of China which was designed to keep Mongrel hoards form invading, pillaging and looting the country. The US should take a similar approach, but with modern interpretation and without the immense cost (the 'virtual wall' is just a pork pit - ineffective and incredibly expensive).

nope , just go after the companies that hire these people .. dont need to build no ****ing wall , or arm rednecks and let em patrol the border ........ **** it isnt rocket science .....no welfare , no medical , no job , they no come here .... dayum I hate being the only one that has a clue around here

barryr
08-28-2011, 03:09 PM
I also worry about terrorists able to walk into this country and we don't even know how many have already done so. Not having jobs to go to would not bother a terrorist much and make him turn back.

Boomhauer
08-28-2011, 05:57 PM
Spider - "...just go after the companies that hire these people .. dont need to build no ****ing wall...etc"

A major crackdown on illegal employment in the service and construction sectors would have a major impact on illegal immigration, as well as lower the US unemployment rate (10mil job openings immediately), but how does that stop the absolute worst type of illegal alien - Those employed by Mexican cartels? ie: Drug, human and terrorist trafficking. How does that stop importation of banned/counterfeit/lethal merchandise and money laundering?

I'm with you and LABF'er (can't believe I just typed that) with the necessity to go after illegal alien employers, but a sealed border with walls and layers in hot zones is just as much a requirement. I'll expand on how that should be implemented, including by who, if asked.

Spider
08-28-2011, 06:14 PM
Spider - "...just go after the companies that hire these people .. dont need to build no ****ing wall...etc"

A major crackdown on illegal employment in the service and construction sectors would have a major impact on illegal immigration, as well as lower the US unemployment rate (10mil job openings immediately), but how does that stop the absolute worst type of illegal alien - Those employed by Mexican cartels? ie: Drug, human and terrorist trafficking. How does that stop importation of banned/counterfeit/lethal merchandise and money laundering?

I'm with you and LABF'er (can't believe I just typed that) with the necessity to go after illegal alien employers, but a sealed border with walls and layers in hot zones is just as much a requirement. I'll expand on how that should be implemented, including by who, if asked.
I am not saying open borders , but we dont need no wall , besides just as much drugs come here in boats , TGN wall wouldnt work to well out there , even if it is built to keep people out , but then the market here for drugs is staggering , we legalize hippy lettuce that will go along ways in helping

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-28-2011, 07:42 PM
I'm with you and LABF'er (can't believe I just typed that)

Congrats: you're the stopped clock that's right twice a day.

Boomhauer
08-28-2011, 09:04 PM
I am not saying open borders , but we dont need no wall...

Land mines have been very effective, historically, and would eliminate repeat offenders that are now caught and sent back to try again. I Don't think these guys would try and cross the border after their failed attempt......
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8b4R5sEznho/S7aKZ85-TjI/AAAAAAAAMs4/gwfuia4daII/s400/landmine_cambodia_disabled_07mar08_210.jpg
Since the current, previous, or likely future administrations maintain a policy of violating human, civil, international and unalienable rights - I don't think there will be any legal challenge or objection to mining the southern border.

Boomhauer
08-28-2011, 09:21 PM
Deportation efforts have stepped up immensely under Obama...

There might be better options than deporting illegal aliens...

We could always pack them into cargo containers and ship them to Afghanistan (it's how they got here anyways). In similar fashion to the way Israel held captured Palestinian children at gunpoint and forced them to run into buildings believed to be boobytrapped during the most recent invasion of Gaza, the US could march illegal aliens in front of them to set of IEDs or mines. Since the actions don't take place on US soil, no laws would be broken (a precedent alluded to in my previous post).

broncocalijohn
08-29-2011, 12:02 AM
This.

If you want to solve the problem, then you have to go after those who benefit most from illegal immigration: cheap labor conservatives.

For these sociopathic a$$holes, greed has no "off" switch, so they won't stop until the world's resources are concentrated in the smallest conceivable number of hands and the rest of us are just serfs.

Get off the high horse and you know damn well the liberals protect the illegals like crazy. Why don't you tell everyone about Governor Brown wanting to put the Dream Act for illegal aliens and have the citizens pay for their schooling in college?

This problem is because of big business and for some reason the hispanics want their jobs to be taken over by illegal aliens. I don't care what color they are; Canadians coming here illegal and taking American jobs? They should be sent back.
I won't give money for the private border because if they do a good job, the illegals will enter into California. I support them but the effect can be worse.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 01:03 AM
Get off the high horse and you know damn well the liberals protect the illegals like crazy.

Why don't you tell everyone about Governor Brown wanting to put the Dream Act for illegal aliens and have the citizens pay for their schooling in college?

This problem is because of big business and for some reason the hispanics want their jobs to be taken over by illegal aliens. I don't care what color they are; Canadians coming here illegal and taking American jobs? They should be sent back.

I won't give money for the private border because if they do a good job, the illegals will enter into California. I support them but the effect can be worse.

All that ranting and deflecting, and you did absolutely nothing to dispute my point, i.e., that cheap labor conservatives benefit most from illegal immigration.

BTW, point me to the liberals on this forum who want to "protect" illegals or who support the Brown legislation you mentioned.

broncocalijohn
08-29-2011, 11:14 AM
All that ranting and deflecting, and you did absolutely nothing to dispute my point, i.e., that cheap labor conservatives benefit most from illegal immigration.

BTW, point me to the liberals on this forum who want to "protect" illegals or who support the Brown legislation you mentioned.

I guess you missed this part of my post while you got all heated and ready to type away (better than a cartoon so props for that).

"This problem is because of big business and for some reason the hispanics want their jobs to be taken over by illegal aliens. I don't care what color they are; Canadians coming here illegal and taking American jobs? They should be sent back. "


See bolded.
I say all big business (and even Mom and Pop construction/labor companies) and it doesn't mean they are conservative. Big Business will give money to whoever gives them what they want.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 02:26 PM
I guess you missed this part of my post while you got all heated and ready to type away (better than a cartoon so props for that).

Nice to know those cartoons have made such an impression on you that you're still thinking about them even when they're not present. Ha!


I say all big business (and even Mom and Pop construction/labor companies) and it doesn't mean they are conservative. Big Business will give money to whoever gives them what they want.

Yeah, what was I thinking? The CEOs who run those companies are all a bunch of bleeding heart liberals - not a conservative among them. ROFL!

broncocalijohn
08-29-2011, 02:43 PM
Nice to know those cartoons have made such an impression on you that you're still thinking about them even when they're not present. Ha!



Yeah, what was I thinking? The CEOs who run those companies are all a bunch of bleeding heart liberals - not a conservative among them. ROFL!

Kind of like GE. As for cartoons, it is a reflection on you, not me.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 02:57 PM
Kind of like GE.

Run by liberals?

Ha ha ha! ROFL!

You just make it up as you go along.



As for cartoons, it is a reflection on you, not me.

It's a "reflection" that republicans can't take a joke and take themselves too seriously.

Funny how their outlook on political satire was just the opposite when Clinton was in the cross hairs.

broncocalijohn
08-29-2011, 02:58 PM
You didnt see the donation they give out to liberal causes I see.

Cartoons is ok but you are known to respond by using cartoons as your answer. I am sure finger painting is a master work of art too.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 03:00 PM
You didnt see the donation they give out to liberal causes I see.

Exxon-Mobil contributed to Al Gore's campaign.

According to your logic, that makes them liberals. LOL

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 03:02 PM
Cartoons is(sic) ok but you are known to respond by using cartoons as your answer..

As always, I'd wager you couldn't prove this allegation if your life depended on it.

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2011, 03:07 PM
Funny how their outlook on political satire was just the opposite when Clinton was in the cross hairs.

You should probably watch your violent rhetoric since you liberals have decided to make it a focus of yours to silence violent rhetoric.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 03:09 PM
You should probably watch your violent rhetoric since you liberals have decided to make it a focus of yours to silence violent rhetoric.

"Violent rhetoric?"

Wow - you should seek professional help a.s.a.p.

broncocalijohn
08-29-2011, 03:09 PM
As always, I'd wager you couldn't prove this allegation if your life depended on it.

Wager for what? If you had a poll of "Which poster responds to posts with cartoons?" , you don't think you would be the #1 answer and runner up would be "everyone else"? Delusional!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 03:15 PM
Wager for what?

For you providing even one example to back this claim:

you are known to respond by using cartoons as your answer.


If you had a poll of "Which poster responds to posts with cartoons?" , you don't think you would be the #1 answer and runner up would be "everyone else"? Delusional!

Bandwagon argument.

broncocalijohn
08-29-2011, 03:24 PM
^ You are kidding yourself if you don't think posters here think of you in this order:
1) Liberal
2) likes to post cartoons
3) Rarely found in the regular Broncos forum except talking basketball

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 03:27 PM
^ You are kidding yourself if you don't think posters here think of you in this order:
1) Liberal
2) likes to post cartoons
3) Rarely found in the regular Broncos forum except talking basketball

But none of these was your original claim.

You claimed I posted cartoons in lieu of answers to people's posts, or words to that effect.

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2011, 03:35 PM
"Violent rhetoric?"

Wow - you should seek professional help a.s.a.p.

You talked about President Clinton in cross hairs. You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting to crazy people that they should shoot him.

broncocalijohn
08-29-2011, 03:37 PM
But none of these was your original claim.

You claimed I posted cartoons in lieu of answers to people's posts, or words to that effect.

I am sorry but was the word ALWAYS needed to be in there or it is not technically true? Are you hiding the fact that you respond to post with cartoons so much that people equate you with cartoon posting? That is my whole intent on the "original" post.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 03:38 PM
You talked about President Clinton in cross hairs. You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting to crazy people that they should shoot him.

Did this happen before or after the Keebler Elves broke down your door and stole your Haldol?

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2011, 03:39 PM
Did this happen before or after the Keebler Elves broke down your door and stole your Haldol?

Your violent rhetoric is typical of unhindered far left terrorists.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 03:41 PM
I am sorry but was the word ALWAYS needed to be in there or it is not technically true? Are you hiding the fact that you respond to post with cartoons so much that people equate you with cartoon posting? That is my whole intent on the "original" post.

"Respond to posts" with cartoons?

That part you're pulling out of your arse.

But I do get a kick out of watching people like you and EpicWhackjob get your panties in a wad whenever you see satire at some conservative's expense.

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2011, 03:42 PM
"Respond to posts" with cartoons?

That part you're pulling out of your arse.

But I do get a kick out of watching people like you and EpicWhackjob get your panties in a wad whenever you see satire at some conservative's expense.

Thanks for giving us the terrorist viewpoint, Saul Alinsky-lite. But we don't want your crazy to infect the rest of us.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-29-2011, 04:04 PM
But we don't want your crazy to infect the rest of us.

When you say "we" are you referring to those voices in your head?

:crazy:

epicSocialism4tw
08-29-2011, 05:24 PM
When you say "we" are you referring to those voices in your head?

Another post, another opportunity lost. You could have denounced your terrorism right here and now, but you have refused again.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-30-2011, 11:03 AM
Another post, another opportunity lost. You could have denounced your terrorism right here and now, but you have refused again.

OK, I'll play:

I'm giving you a chance to denounce your compulsion to put on a skirt and high heels and flirt with truckers down at your local Jubitz.

epicSocialism4tw
08-30-2011, 11:52 AM
OK, I'll play:

I'm giving you a chance to denounce your compulsion to put on a skirt and high heels and flirt with truckers down at your local Jubitz.

You have remained quite silent regarding the terrorists embedded in the far left. You have an opportunity to denounce their radical political philosophy, but you refuse.

Why are you harboring terrorists?

Bronx33
08-30-2011, 06:28 PM
You have remained quite silent regarding the terrorists embedded in the far left. You have an opportunity to denounce their radical political philosophy, but you refuse.

Why are you harboring terrorists?


Hes not going to offer much to contest that one but i am guessing he will come up with some epic BS that pretends to explain his position.

Requiem
08-30-2011, 06:42 PM
You have remained quite silent regarding the terrorists embedded in the far left. You have an opportunity to denounce their radical political philosophy, but you refuse.

Why are you harboring terrorists?

Why are you acting like a fifteen year old girl?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 07:14 AM
You have remained quite silent regarding the terrorists embedded in the far left.

That's because I can't see your hallucination.

You're on your own with that one, girlfriend! :wave: :crazy:

http://www.bartcop.com/rick-perry-corndog-doug.jpg

broncocalijohn
08-31-2011, 10:36 AM
^ and you wonder about my comment on you tied to cartoons/pictures/giffs. Oh wait, I didnt say pictures just cartoons. Carry on.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 11:56 AM
^ and you wonder about my comment on you tied to cartoons/pictures/giffs. Oh wait, I didnt say pictures just cartoons. Carry on.


I wonder about your reading comprehension.

But thanks for confirming that cartoons are what register the strongest with you.

peacepipe
08-31-2011, 12:05 PM
That's because I can't see your hallucination.

You're on your own with that one, girlfriend! :wave: :crazy:

http://www.bartcop.com/rick-perry-corndog-doug.jpg

LOL

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 12:42 PM
^

You had to figure that one was going to send calijohn, et al, into a whining fit. Ha!

Requiem
08-31-2011, 01:20 PM
You should probably watch your violent rhetoric since you liberals have decided to make it a focus of yours to silence violent rhetoric.

http://www.rad-dudes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/obama_flipping_the_bird.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2011, 02:57 PM
I wonder about your reading comprehension.

But thanks for confirming that cartoons are what register the strongest with you.

You still have yet to denounce your far left ties to terrorism.

Silence on your part is nothing but advocation.

Requiem
08-31-2011, 03:00 PM
You still have yet to denounce your far left ties to terrorism.

Silence on your part is nothing but advocation.

Are you going to grow th up and stop trolling L.A. in every thread calling him a terrorist?

In all there is to do in life, do you not have something better to do with your time? Do you not have a better outlet to discuss political issues?

How long is this going to continue?

Seriously. It is creepy.

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2011, 03:06 PM
Are you going to grow th up and stop trolling L.A. in every thread calling him a terrorist?

In all there is to do in life, do you not have something better to do with your time? Do you not have a better outlet to discuss political issues?

How long is this going to continue?

Seriously. It is creepy.

LA will not denounce the previously stated terrorists he is associated with.

The people are actually real terrorists. Like been in jail for terrorism terrorists.

He could denounce them if he wanted too. He doesn't want to. Why not? Because those terrorists are part of his cause...they are allies.

Requiem
08-31-2011, 03:10 PM
LA will not denounce the previously stated terrorists he is associated with.

The people are actually real terrorists. Like been in jail for terrorism terrorists.

He could denounce them if he wanted too. He doesn't want to. Why not? Because those terrorists are part of his cause...they are allies.

Maybe he would denounce them if you would stop acting like a five year old who didn't get the toy they wanted in their Happy Meal.

Nobody on the forum should have to go into the first ten threads up for discussion and read the same thing over and over again from you.

Honestly, do you not have anything better or more constructive to do?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 03:34 PM
Maybe he would denounce them if you would stop acting like a five year old who didn't get the toy they wanted in their Happy Meal.



You can't denounce delusions and hallucinations away.

They require psychiatric meds, i.e., DramaLllama's only hope for living a semi-functional life.

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2011, 03:37 PM
You can't denounce delusions and hallucinations away.

They require psychiatric meds, i.e., DramaLllama's only hope for living a semi-functional life.

You still refuse to denounce your party's ties to terrorism.

It should be clear to everyone who reads your post that you don't mind terrorism as long as it suits your purpose.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 03:39 PM
You still refuse to denounce your party's ties to terrorism.

At the risk of humoring your psychosis, what "ties to terrorism" might those be, specifically?

Further, which party is "my party?"

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2011, 03:40 PM
At the risk of humoring your psychosis, what "ties to terrorism" might those be, specifically?

Further, which party is "my party?"

Are you serious? Hilarious!

I don't think that anyone would have any problem figuring out which party you spam this forum for.

Requiem
08-31-2011, 03:40 PM
Psychosis is right.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 03:41 PM
Are you serious? Hilarious!

Not going to answer, eh?

Color me shocked.

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2011, 03:43 PM
Not going to answer, eh?

Color me shocked.

You seriously just wrote that you arent a shill for a party, which is patently hilarious.

I would think it would feel horrible to lie so much, but you do it with such ease.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 03:43 PM
Psychosis is right.

Dude is becoming more unhinged with each passing day.

I have no clue what this "ties to terrorism" stuff is that he's referring to.

Odds are, neither does he.

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2011, 03:44 PM
Dude is becoming more unhinged with each passing day.

I have no clue what this "ties to terrorism" stuff is that he's referring to.

Odds are, neither does he.

I outlined it for you yesterday and you have been running from it ever since.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 03:47 PM
You seriously just wrote that you arent a shill for a party, which is patently hilarious.

I would think it would feel horrible to lie so much, but you do it with such ease.

As I've noted so many times, you simply create your own nutty parallel universe with no relation to facts or reality in order to maintain a comfort level with your specious and/or already-discredited beliefs.

How sad for you.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 03:49 PM
I outlined it for you yesterday and you have been running from it ever since.

Then refresh my memory.

You're the boy who cried wolf, so hardly anything you say leaves a lasting impression.

epicSocialism4tw
08-31-2011, 03:49 PM
Then refresh my memory.

You're the boy who cried wolf, so hardly anything you say leaves a lasting impression.

Then why do you feel the urge to respond to everything I post? Hilarious!

Oops!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 03:57 PM
Then why do you feel the urge to respond to everything I post?

Because your posts, like your hysterical Obama attack threads, are ubiquitous.

You can't peruse this forum without running smack into at least a dozen on any given thread.

Sorry if you were expecting a more flattering explanation. :D

Requiem
08-31-2011, 05:20 PM
People don't like having water cooler conversations with DramaLlama.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-31-2011, 05:30 PM
People don't like having water cooler conversations with DramaLlama.

Because they take one look at him and ask "holy sh*t - I wonder what's in that water?"