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ZONA
08-25-2011, 10:11 PM
Just watched a very clean hit on Vick. it was a sack that turned into an INT for the Browns and wouldn't you know it, the official thew the flag for roughing the QB. Watch the play and you'll see what I mean. The dude wasn't late and he didn't hit Vick in the head and he didn't spear him. WTF do you want from these guys, holy ****. Rush the QB and when you get there ask him nicely to fall down. What a frickin wuss league this is becoming. They might as well put the QB's in red jerseys or something and say you can only touch them, no tackling allowed. The commish is turning the NFL into a joke. Get his ass out there.

HAT
08-25-2011, 10:17 PM
Stop watching then.

baja
08-25-2011, 10:38 PM
Stop watching then.

yes never never express yourself just accept or leave those are your only options. Why is it not OK to not agree with something that is happening to something you love. Geez....

OBF1
08-25-2011, 11:38 PM
Soccer is a great alternative for some people.

Archer81
08-26-2011, 12:49 AM
I thought the call was a little puswahtastic, but on the replay I can see how the ref would think it was a little rough. But he did not lead with his helmet. Hit Vick in the chest with his shoulder.

I'm also kind of amazed at how quickly the announcers are denouncing valid hits. Even Moore's hit was a good hit. Steve Atwater-esque.

Not all change is good.

:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
08-26-2011, 01:36 AM
I shrugged at that call too.

The worst thing about the NBA is the whole concept of super star calls.

It looks like the NFL is creating an atmosphere where they coddle certain players in a similar way. You just hope that its consistent...they dont give Tebow the benefit of the doubt.

Quoydogs
08-26-2011, 01:38 AM
I think they should have to review the play before ejecting someone from the game.

boltaneer
08-26-2011, 02:00 AM
A lot of fans complained that defensive players hit Vick too hard without penalty last year.

This year fans are going to complain that Vick is being protected by the NFL?

Or maybe some people just like to complain about everything.

cutthemdown
08-26-2011, 02:54 AM
Just watched a very clean hit on Vick. it was a sack that turned into an INT for the Browns and wouldn't you know it, the official thew the flag for roughing the QB. Watch the play and you'll see what I mean. The dude wasn't late and he didn't hit Vick in the head and he didn't spear him. WTF do you want from these guys, holy ****. Rush the QB and when you get there ask him nicely to fall down. What a frickin wuss league this is becoming. They might as well put the QB's in red jerseys or something and say you can only touch them, no tackling allowed. The commish is turning the NFL into a joke. Get his ass out there.

He's like the McDaniels of commissioners. It's ruining the game just like you said. They need to just let refs throw a flag when they feel someone crossed the line. Not this BS they have now.

It's really just a tax on the players and IMO has nothing to do with safety. There I said it.

cutthemdown
08-26-2011, 02:54 AM
A lot of fans complained that defensive players hit Vick too hard without penalty last year.

This year fans are going to complain that Vick is being protected by the NFL?

Or maybe some people just like to complain about everything.

That was when he ran. I think this is a sack he is complaining about. Also it was only Philly that complained lol.

FADERPROOF
08-26-2011, 02:55 AM
It was a bad call, D'qell Jackson did what he was supposed to do, just ****ty that the ref would call a penalty on a play like that.

cutthemdown
08-26-2011, 02:57 AM
I shrugged at that call too.

The worst thing about the NBA is the whole concept of super star calls.

It looks like the NFL is creating an atmosphere where they coddle certain players in a similar way. You just hope that its consistent...they dont give Tebow the benefit of the doubt.

Tebow is a god fearing man who wants to wait until he's married to have sex. He spends a ton of time doing charitable work and is an all around good guy.

Vick is a gambling, dog killing felon, who asked for forgiveness once he was caught so he could play football again.

It's obvious who most people have the most in common with nowdays.....It's Vick, because we live in the its only wrong if you get caught or it turns out bad mentality.

ZONA
08-26-2011, 03:12 AM
It was a bad call, D'qell Jackson did what he was supposed to do, just ****ty that the ref would call a penalty on a play like that.

Honestly, I think they should give each team 1 special challenge per game in which they can review a penalty. I don't see why they can't do this. If that game had been regular season, they would have used that challenge because the play resulted in a TO. I understand the refs are trying to protect the players and in real time it may have looked worse then it was. But if the ref could review that play, I bet they would pick up that flag and let the play stand. But commish won't have that. It might make his refs look bad, lol. As if they're not human and can't make mistakes.

ZONA
08-26-2011, 03:14 AM
Stop watching then.

That was pretty weak dude. Hang out with grown ups much?

hambone13
08-26-2011, 03:18 AM
Honestly, I think they should give each team 1 special challenge per game in which they can review a penalty. I don't see why they can't do this. If that game had been regular season, they would have used that challenge because the play resulted in a TO. I understand the refs are trying to protect the players and in real time it may have looked worse then it was. But if the ref could review that play, I bet they would pick up that flag and let the play stand. But commish won't have that. It might make his refs look bad, lol. As if they're not human and can't make mistakes.

I think we have to assume that the NFL is reducing it's liability to past and current players and their long-term financial commitment to the leagues association with them. They're avoiding bad press for past players, while assuming a defensive posture against long-term liability for a violent sport that is incredibly profitable. The NFL is entirely too profitable to have a conscience. Sad but true IMO.

gunns
08-26-2011, 05:42 AM
I think we have to assume that the NFL is reducing it's liability to past and current players and their long-term financial commitment to the leagues association with them. They're avoiding bad press for past players, while assuming a defensive posture against long-term liability for a violent sport that is incredibly profitable. The NFL is entirely too profitable to have a conscience. Sad but true IMO.

We all know what can happen when you ass/u/me.

Blueflame
08-26-2011, 05:53 AM
I thought the call was a little puswahtastic, but on the replay I can see how the ref would think it was a little rough. But he did not lead with his helmet. Hit Vick in the chest with his shoulder.

I'm also kind of amazed at how quickly the announcers are denouncing valid hits. Even Moore's hit was a good hit. Steve Atwater-esque.

Not all change is good.

:Broncos:

Old-school defensive players like Atwater and Dennis Smith couldn't play "their game" today. We saw it with John Lynch in the last couple seasons before he retired; the all-too-frequent flags and fines for hitting the way he'd been taught to hit since he played Pop Warner.

How often would Goodell fine Ronnie Lott or Jack Lambert? Or Deacon Jones or Dick Butkus? It boggles the mind to even imagine it.... those players would get ejected for their first hit.

WolfpackGuy
08-26-2011, 06:40 AM
Saw it when it happened on TV.

Totally clean hit, and Jackson better appeal that if he gets a fine.

I don't know how they got illegal blow to the head because his facemask was up and into Vick's chest, and it's not like he drove him into the ground

tnedator
08-26-2011, 06:54 AM
Saw it when it happened on TV.

Totally clean hit, and Jackson better appeal that if he gets a fine.

I don't know how they got illegal blow to the head because his facemask was up and into Vick's chest, and it's not like he drove him into the ground

Worse, the ref called it a blow to the QB's head/helmet, which was not the case.

That was a horrible call, and was a result of the the ref's position. He had a bad angle, and I'm guessing from his angle, which was completely blocked by the rusher, he didn't realize how clean the hit was.

Horrible call.

Play2win
08-26-2011, 06:58 AM
Soccer is a great alternative for some people.

This is actually the goal of the current commissioner, to turn the NFL into Soccer.

alkemical
08-26-2011, 07:05 AM
This is actually the goal of the current commissioner, to turn the NFL into Soccer.

I think a version of Option Volley Pass.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
08-26-2011, 07:19 AM
I shrugged at that call too.

The worst thing about the NBA is the whole concept of super star calls.

It looks like the NFL is creating an atmosphere where they coddle certain players in a similar way. You just hope that its consistent...they dont give Tebow the benefit of the doubt.

i'm pretty sure if someone ran over to the Broncos sideline to put a hit on Tebow, sitting on the bench, that the official would make that call.

supermanhr9
08-26-2011, 07:21 AM
It's not really Goodell, it's the owners who invest MILLIONS on these guys, especially the QB's, who want them protected. In a way I understand it, I would probably want the same thing if I had millions invested.

Beantown Bronco
08-26-2011, 07:28 AM
These types of calls on the QB and the ridiculousness that has become pass interference probably make up about 20-30% of the reason why I stopped watching this year.

gyldenlove
08-26-2011, 08:50 AM
I shrugged at that call too.

The worst thing about the NBA is the whole concept of super star calls.

It looks like the NFL is creating an atmosphere where they coddle certain players in a similar way. You just hope that its consistent...they dont give Tebow the benefit of the doubt.

Lets be honest they have had that for years, Tom Brady and a few others get calls that Kyle Orton, Matt Stafford or Alex Smith would never get.

epicSocialism4tw
08-26-2011, 12:02 PM
Lets be honest they have had that for years, Tom Brady and a few others get calls that Kyle Orton, Matt Stafford or Alex Smith would never get.

Oh, absolutely.

OrangeSe7en
08-26-2011, 12:14 PM
It's not really Goodell, it's the owners who invest MILLIONS on these guys, especially the QB's, who want them protected. In a way I understand it, I would probably want the same thing if I had millions invested.

Its chicken-egg. By continously changing the rules that favor the passing game, they continuously increase the significance of QBs, which, in turn, drives up what they get paid.

ZONA
08-26-2011, 03:12 PM
Worse, the ref called it a blow to the QB's head/helmet, which was not the case.

That was a horrible call, and was a result of the the ref's position. He had a bad angle, and I'm guessing from his angle, which was completely blocked by the rusher, he didn't realize how clean the hit was.

Horrible call.

Exactly. And I say this when I watch the NBA also. Call what you can see you ****in assholes. Don't just ****ing guess and call the penalty. If you can't see it, you can't see it. There are other officials on the frickin field.

It's come down to, any type of hard hit on a QB is going to be a penalty, clean hit or not. Sure I want the QB's protected some, but not to the extent the integrity of the game is lost.

I'm guessing soon the NFL is going to be the NFFL (National Flag Football League)

Captain 'Dre
08-26-2011, 06:01 PM
I shrugged at that call too.

The worst thing about the NBA is the whole concept of super star calls.

It looks like the NFL is creating an atmosphere where they coddle certain players in a similar way. You just hope that its consistent...they dont give Tebow the benefit of the doubt.

How many 4th stringers DO get that benefit? :sunshine:

epicSocialism4tw
08-26-2011, 06:19 PM
How many 4th stringers DO get that benefit? :sunshine:

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