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Rulon Velvet Jones
08-20-2011, 05:56 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/20/todd-haley-upset-with-john-harbaugh/

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Todd Haley upset with John Harbaugh

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 20, 2011, 7:18 AM EDT

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Chiefs coach Todd Haley was upset with Ravens coach John Harbaugh after Friday night’s preseason game, telling Harbaugh that he didn’t appreciate the Ravens running up the score in their 31-13 win.

Baltimore scored two touchdowns in the last two minutes of the game, including one with just five seconds left, and Haley thought Harbaugh should have had his quarterback taking a knee, not leading a touchdown drive.

Harbaugh began his post-game press conference by addressing the issue.

“I want to apologize to the Chiefs if they feel like we were not doing the right thing at the end of the game,” Harbaugh said. “That wasn’t the midset, OK? The mindset was – this is the preseason. If this had been the regular season, we would’ve been on a knee. The idea in that situation is to give those young guys who work hard and who are trying to make a football team – this football team or another football team – to play the whole 60 minutes and give them a chance to show what they can do. Offensive line, running backs, everybody.”

In other words, Harbaugh would rather get his third-string offense some work than spare the feelings of the Chiefs’ players who didn’t want the score run up on them.

“I know that’s debatable, I know there’s a point of view both ways, I understand that,” Harbaugh said. “But I just feel like that was the right thing to do for our players, to give them a chance to play the game out and see what they can do.”

Harbaugh said Haley made it clear to him that he wasn’t happy about it, and Harbaugh made clear that he meant no offense.

“I think he said something like, ‘I don’t know about that,’” Harbaugh said. “I understood, and I just said, ‘Preseason, preseason for the young guys.’ He said ‘OK.’ I’ve got a lot of respect for Todd Haley, and a lot of respect for the Chiefs.”

Haley was involved in a similar incident last season, when he refused to shake the hand of Broncos coach Josh McDaniels after the Broncos blew out the Chiefs. Haley clearly doesn’t like it when opposing teams score a lot of points on his team. Maybe his anger would be better directed at his own defense than at opposing coaches.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-20-2011, 05:59 AM
Harbaugh makes a great point. Who cares about the score or winning or losing preseason games? It's glorified practice. These guys in the 4th quarter are out there trying to bust their asses to make the team. It would be unfair to them to take a knee when they're trying to showcase themselves for a potential spot on the team. As a coach, I'd rather have Haley mad at me than a portion of the locker room that thought they were going to get to play and were instead told to take a knee to spare someone's feelings.

Shananahan
08-20-2011, 06:09 AM
Unless the fear of injury is so great that a coach feels he simply cannot afford to have his players on the field beyond the absolute minimum, I will never understand 'playing to win' or playing it safe in other areas in preseason. Hell, outside of a few opportunities with the right field position I don't even understand punting on fourth down.

This is a pretty stupid article, though. Unless there's more to it beyond what Harbaugh said happened, and he apologized to make Haley look bad for complaining or something, this writeup is just trying to create drama over nothing. If Haley really was upset about the final score of a preseason game then he's an oversensitive pusssy who deserves to be made fun of for it. If all he did was give Harbaugh a 'come on, man' then who cares.

crush17
08-20-2011, 06:35 AM
F*** Todd Haley.

I hope we freaking DESTROY the Chiefs this season.

Goobzilla
08-20-2011, 06:35 AM
Maybe his anger would be better directed at his own defense than at opposing coaches.

This. F Haley and his crybaby schtick. Guys are fighting for their careers and he cares about the scoreboard?

strafen
08-20-2011, 06:45 AM
That guy is really an idiot. What a jewel Ha!

Dr. Broncenstein
08-20-2011, 06:56 AM
http://www.selectspecs.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/blublocker-demi-tortoise-nylon-zach-galifianakis.jpg

He's a Ruh-Todd.

cmhargrove
08-20-2011, 07:02 AM
Nobody gets pissed at the Patriots for putting up 30-40 points every preseason game.

I hate being on the losing end, but Harbaugh is right. He is giving his players a chance to be seen by other teams and get a job somewhere. For some of these kids, this preseason will be the end of their lifetime of football - let them have their moment.

Haley is starting to earn his reputation as a whiner. That sets up a culture of complaining all the way down. For all his drawbacks, my favorite Chiefs coach in recent memory has always been Dick Vermeil. I think he had a way of staying positive, even in defeat.

Haley is setting up a breeding ground for discontent, and that is probably what he will reap.

DarkHorse
08-20-2011, 08:19 AM
This guy seems to whine an awful lot.

Broncoman13
08-20-2011, 08:24 AM
I think Haley probably understands this as well. If Harbaugh brought out Rice to score in the late part of the game, sure it would be unprofessional... But that wasn't the case.

dbfan21
08-20-2011, 08:30 AM
What a doucher! :clown:

oubronco
08-20-2011, 08:39 AM
Harbaugh said Haley made it clear to him that he wasn’t happy about it, and Harbaugh made clear that he meant no offense.


In other words Harbaugh made it clear he didn't give a shyt what Haley thought and could go **** himself

BowlenBall
08-20-2011, 08:45 AM
It's nice to have such an unlikeable, whiny bitch coaching the Chiefs -- makes it that much easier to root against them.

gyldenlove
08-20-2011, 09:04 AM
Come on, the dude has a team that has scored 13 points through 2 games in the preseason, do you expect him to come out and say the truth? "I am an awful coach and it is my fault that this team couldn't win an egg and spoon race against some paraplegic 3rd graders". It is much easier to a pissy little bitch and blame it on someone else for not playing fair.

IA-Broncosfan53
08-20-2011, 09:08 AM
This attitude makes what kind of statement to his players? I have no idea what he is trying to prove with these irrational comments.

boltaneer
08-20-2011, 09:11 AM
Wow. What a baby.

Seriously?

Gcver2ver3
08-20-2011, 09:20 AM
he should be better preparing his team and holding himself and his players accountable...vs worrying about what the oppssing coaches are doing...

Aftermath
08-20-2011, 09:28 AM
Man, Todd Haley is a puss.

Gcver2ver3
08-20-2011, 09:44 AM
Haley is embarrasing himself and chiefs fans...

i went to chiefsplanet and even those yahoos are up in arms over Haley's crybaby tactics...

Pendejo
08-20-2011, 09:53 AM
Wow. What a baby.

Seriously?

He's just passionate.

Perry1977
08-20-2011, 09:53 AM
How stupid can he be? Doesn't he want to see what his guys can do in pressure, red zone situations? Doesn't he want tape of what he's got in this shortened preseason?

Well I guess the Ravens showed him what he's got. LOL

Gcver2ver3
08-20-2011, 09:59 AM
He's just a passion fruit.

fixed...

Shananahan
08-20-2011, 10:07 AM
The funniest thing about this is that nobody will ever get sympathy with the 'running up the score' complaint. Nobody will ever be understanding or feel bad for the coach and team that got raped on the field. The only thing one can hope to accomplish by complaining about this is making the other coach look like a bad guy. That might work when it's an evil genius like Belichick or something, but it's definitely not going to pan out when you have a history of losing your temper and confronting opposing head coaches following a loss. The preseason element of this just takes it to the nth degree of pathetic.

broncswin
08-20-2011, 10:15 AM
all he is trying to do is "LOSE A MOTHER F-ING GAME BY LESS THAN 20 POINTS"....can't anyone understand that

Gort
08-20-2011, 10:16 AM
It's nice to have such an unlikeable, whiny b**** coaching the Chiefs -- makes it that much easier to root against them.

we really are blessed as Broncos fans.

Al Davis, Philip Rivers, and now Todd Haley.

it makes it easy to dislike our conference foes.

now, if only we didn't suck so bad.

DenverBrit
08-20-2011, 10:19 AM
Message to Haley:

"It's KC's job to keep the opponents score down".

Pendejo
08-20-2011, 10:37 AM
Todd Haley is a soccer mom.

brncs_fan
08-20-2011, 10:37 AM
I think i was almost two sentences into the article before I stopped and said out loud, " wtf...its the preseason?!?"

broncosteven
08-20-2011, 10:51 AM
Todd Haley is a soccer mom.

I am a soccer dad and I have seen less soccer moms complaining than Haley, we like to see our 8 year old compete, Haley should do something about his team getting their asses kicked or shut up.

DarkHorse
08-20-2011, 11:05 AM
Wow. What a baby.

Seriously?


You know, I rarely get into the bashing the divisional rival teams game with other fans but you're exactly right on this. Seriously, what a ****ing crybaby this guy is showing himself to be.

ChrisToker
08-20-2011, 11:08 AM
How stupid can he be? Doesn't he want to see what his guys can do in pressure, red zone situations? Doesn't he want tape of what he's got in this shortened preseason?

Well I guess the Ravens showed him what he's got. LOL

If any thing he should thank the coach for going for it so he knows to cut the person that allowed the TD

gunns
08-20-2011, 11:11 AM
As mentioned before, without risking injury to your guys, I don't have a problem with anyone, in preseason or regular season, running up the score. Haley seems to miss the biggest point of all as said on sports news last night, your team has some serious problems. And you are the coach. Fix it or live with it.

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Cito Pelon
08-20-2011, 11:39 AM
Harbaugh, in effect, was saying in coachspeak, "This guy Haley is a jackass."

KipCorrington25
08-20-2011, 12:47 PM
It's because he's never worn a jock before, he was on the golf team in high school and the son of some former NFL exec so he's had his path paved for him.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-20-2011, 12:48 PM
Todd Haley > your coach

Premier-Ace55
08-20-2011, 01:07 PM
I see nothing wrong with it. It's the preseason with no OTA's because of the lockout, you have to see what you have as a coach. Todd Haley just suffers from B--tch A--ness.

dbfan21
08-20-2011, 01:08 PM
Todd Haley > your coach

:rofl: my dad can beat up your dad...blah blah blah...

Premier-Ace55
08-20-2011, 01:09 PM
Todd Haley > your coach

Negative

DenverBrit
08-20-2011, 01:10 PM
Todd Haley > your coach

At whining? Absolutely!!

broncosteven
08-20-2011, 02:01 PM
Todd Haley > your coach

Todd Haley ever guide a team to the SB?

gunns
08-20-2011, 02:01 PM
It's because he's never worn a jock before, he was on the golf team in high school and the son of some former NFL exec so he's had his path paved for him.

His first job with the NFL was with the Jets, his Dad was working for the team.

Then there was his fight with Warner and a blowup on camera with Boldin in one game. He claims it's his way of motivating. Ok. Seems to me he likes to blame everyone else for his failures. Oh, he also owns an 87 Camaro. He's perfect for the Chiefs!

broncosteven
08-20-2011, 02:05 PM
His first job with the NFL was with the Jets, his Dad was working for the team.

Then there was his fight with Warner and a blowup on camera with Boldin in one game. He claims it's his way of motivating. Ok. Seems to me he likes to blame everyone else for his failures. Oh, he also owns an 87 Camaro. He's perfect for the Chiefs!

I bet he wears that hat on the sidelines to hide his mullet.

Kaylore
08-20-2011, 02:17 PM
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. It's the freaking preseason.

DBroncos4life
08-20-2011, 02:52 PM
KC finally will get someone to use up all the leftover tampons from the Dick V era.

Steve Prefontaine
08-20-2011, 02:55 PM
How embarrassing for the Chiefs. They look like total pussies now.

cutthemdown
08-20-2011, 03:06 PM
I can see why the Chiefs players hate their coach. Baldwin probably just caught off guard by a coach that really whines and bitches like a little pussy all the time.

Gort
08-20-2011, 03:10 PM
Todd Haley just suffers from B--tch A--ness.

why's everyone being so hard on Haley? just get him some Midol and he'll be fine until next month.

TheReverend
08-20-2011, 03:29 PM
why's everyone being so hard on Haley? just get him some Midol and he'll be fine until next month.

Lol

I like Haley and have defended him against some things I view as unfair criticism

...but this is ****ing stupid.

Congrats to Harbaugh for calling him out.

Miss I.
08-20-2011, 03:57 PM
Seriously? An article on a coach's "Feelings?" Really? This is newsworthy? Sportmanship, perhaps Haley could look it up and while he's at it maybe he can use a GPS to locate his spine, which evidently was removed so he could coach the Chiefs.

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/b/bc/FeelingsLP.jpg

Kaylore
08-20-2011, 03:59 PM
Seriously? An article on a coach's "Feelings?" Really? This is newsworthy? Sportmanship, perhaps Haley could look it up and while he's at it maybe he can use a GPS to locate his spine, which evidently was removed so he could coach the Chiefs.



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DENVERDUI55
08-20-2011, 04:23 PM
Todd Haley got ran out of AZ. Yeah the best thing to do to your best players is bench them in crunch time.

maher_tyler
08-20-2011, 04:49 PM
:Whaaaa!::Whaaaa!::Whaaaa!::Whaaaa!::Whaaaa!:

There doing it for the practice...****in idiot!!

Pendejo
08-20-2011, 04:57 PM
why's everyone being so hard on Haley? just get him some Midol and he'll be fine until next month.

Hah! Yeah...the opposing coach should present him with a chocolate bar at the post-game handshake.

bronco militia
08-20-2011, 04:57 PM
How embarrassing for the Chiefs. They look like total pussies again.

fixed

;D

Bronco Boy
08-20-2011, 05:12 PM
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/crapola/butthurtometer.gif

myMind
08-20-2011, 05:37 PM
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2954/sandyir.jpg

Dr. Broncenstein
08-21-2011, 05:32 AM
http://i.eprci.net/centipedes-in-my-vagina

cutthemdown
08-21-2011, 04:16 PM
Larry Fitz just said that Haley once cried because all the players saw his penis. He always tried to shower after everyone was gone and they found out why. He has like a 2 inch penis. The whole team started to call him NUB and that was the main reason he left Arizona to go coach the Chiefs. So most of his personality querks are because of that and he treats all the brothers with contempt because they have big tools.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-21-2011, 04:39 PM
If anything, Harbaugh is the bigger pussy for making an issue out of this in the media.

Why did he bring it up?

Bronco Boy
08-21-2011, 05:25 PM
Larry Fitz just said that Haley once cried because all the players saw his penis. He always tried to shower after everyone was gone and they found out why. He has like a 2 inch penis. The whole team started to call him NUB and that was the main reason he left Arizona to go coach the Chiefs. So most of his personality querks are because of that and he treats all the brothers with contempt because they have big tools.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

broncosteven
08-21-2011, 05:35 PM
If anything, Harbaugh is the bigger p***Y for making an issue out of this in the media.

Why did he bring it up?

You just want to hide under your Star Wars sheets and dream about how your new Steve Bono is going to take your team to the SB even while Thomas Jones is throat punching the RB's on his own team don't you.

missingnumber7
08-21-2011, 06:17 PM
If anything, Harbaugh is the bigger p***Y for making an issue out of this in the media.

Why did he bring it up?

To further the douchbaggery of Haley.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-21-2011, 06:23 PM
Jesus, Bob, it's ok to criticize members of the Chiefs organization. You can't suck their balls ALL the time. Quit trying to spin everything.

cutthemdown
08-21-2011, 07:51 PM
If anything, Harbaugh is the bigger p***Y for making an issue out of this in the media.

Why did he bring it up?

You are right they are both huge pussies, just like you.

Paul Finebaum PWNS!
08-21-2011, 08:37 PM
You are right they are both huge pussies, just like you.

What do Boob and Todd Haley have in common?

Neither one ever has ever played football in their life.

Steve Sewell
08-22-2011, 07:25 AM
What do Boob and Todd Haley have in common?

Neither one ever has ever played football in their life.

Little Todd's background is pretty hilarious. He played golf in college and basically got a job in the NFL because of his daddy. He's probably the biggest p***Y in all of pro sports to boot. The fact that he's the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs is just icing on the cake.

I think we should now refer to him as "Toddles". Pretty cute.

Crushaholic
08-22-2011, 09:00 AM
:vermeil: This emoticon needs to be officially changed from Vermeil to Haley. When Vermeil cried, he was just emotional. When Haley cries, he's a whiner...