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cutthemdown
08-15-2011, 09:03 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/15/jonathan-baldwin-off-to-slow-start-with-chiefs/


The Chiefs drafted wideout Jonathan Baldwin in the first round partly because they were very thin at the position.

Jerheme Urban looked like a returning starter, and someone like Kevin Curtis played snaps for the Chiefs in the playoffs just a week after signing with them. Not to mention Dwayne Bowe is in a contract year.

The Chiefs would love for Baldwin to step into a sizable role right away, but hes off to a sluggish start. The Pitt product has reportedly struggled to get off the line of scrimmage because hes getting jammed. Hes also dealt with a hamstring injury, and is currently listed as a third-team receiver, no higher than fifth on the depth chart. Baldwin says hes 100% now.

Urban remains a starter, while free agent pickup Steve Breaston is set to play the slot role. This group still has holes. Baldwin gained 14 yards in his preseason debut, playing with the deep reserves.

That production sadly was good for second among Chiefs wideouts in receiving yards during an ugly preseason outing.


THIS GUY HAS BUST WRITTEN ALL OVER HIM!

cutthemdown
08-15-2011, 09:04 AM
Sounds like another Ashley Lelie to me!

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 09:10 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2n18a5x.jpg

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 09:10 AM
Between Bowe, Breaston and Urban they should be fine.

But Baldwin was always an extremely ****ty pick.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 09:12 AM
Between Bowe, Breaston and Urban they should be fine.

But Baldwin was always an extremely ****ty pick.

50 catches, 750 yards, 5 TD.

bare minimum

physical freak that will own old, slow, small guys like Andre Goodman...

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 09:12 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2n18a5x.jpg

You post the BEST football .gif's ever.

First Dorsey getting stonewalled to his knees.

NOW you decide to show Baldwin not able to get any separation against a #5 corner.

Bravo, Bobby. Ha!

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 09:13 AM
50 catches, 750 yards, 5 TD.

bare minimum

physical freak that will own old, slow, small guys like Andre Goodman...

Hilarious!

Gotta get on the field first...

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 09:15 AM
chiefs got BLANKED. A goose ege on the scoreboard is embarrasing in the preseason. Especially going against 3rd stringers

Aftermath
08-15-2011, 09:20 AM
Awesome GIF. Screw the queefs. Go Broncos!

DeuceOfClub
08-15-2011, 09:21 AM
Haley + Cassel = Great success.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 09:25 AM
chiefs got BLANKED. A goose ege on the scoreboard is embarrasing in the preseason. Especially going against 3rd stringers

Is this real life?

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 09:29 AM
Is this real life?

Unrelated, but how do you feel about Bob's gif where he calls Baldwin a physical freak and then shows him unable to separate from a roster bubble guy?

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 09:33 AM
You post the BEST football .gif's ever.

First Dorsey getting stonewalled to his knees.

NOW you decide to show Baldwin not able to get any separation against a #5 corner.

Bravo, Bobby. Ha!


ya i would expect a 1st round pick to tear up 3rd string CBs

ColoradoDarin
08-15-2011, 09:33 AM
Maybe he'd be better in the arena league where he could go in forward motion every snap?

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 09:40 AM
Unrelated, but how do you feel about Bob's gif where he calls Baldwin a physical freak and then shows him unable to separate from a roster bubble guy?

The same way I feel about a lot of things in pre season. Completely unmoved and unconvinced of the value of the information and how it correlates to the regular season good or bad.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 09:47 AM
You post the BEST football .gif's ever.

First Dorsey getting stonewalled to his knees.

NOW you decide to show Baldwin not able to get any separation against a #5 corner.

Bravo, Bobby. Ha!

And yet he still caught the ball.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 09:49 AM
0-25

Sweet way to start the season.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 09:49 AM
0-25

Sweet way to start the season.

The what?

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 09:50 AM
And yet he still caught the ball.

Catching a ball against a #5/6 corner is so impressive to you you feel the need to make a gif?

Impressive indeed.

Btw... was that his ONLY catch despite playing multiple quarters against scrubs?

Ya know, just so I know. I'd imagine a physical freak was able to tear it up against scrub depth.

The same way I feel about a lot of things in pre season. Completely unmoved and unconvinced of the value of the information and how it correlates to the regular season good to bad.

So do you agree or disagree with the OP article or indifferent for now?

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 09:52 AM
The what?

The football season.

0-25.

Awesome.

DarkHorse
08-15-2011, 09:52 AM
I thought the Chiefs put up a goose egg the other night?


This Baldwin guy didn't score 6 TD's on his own?

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 09:53 AM
Catching a ball against a #5/6 corner is so impressive to you you feel the need to make a gif?

Impressive indeed.

Btw... was that his ONLY catch despite playing multiple quarters against scrubs?

Ya know, just so I know. I'd imagine a physical freak was able to tear it up against scrub depth.



So do you agree or disagree with the OP article or indifferent for now?

Only a handful of receivers in the league can make a catch like that.

That was a Larry Fitzgerald type play.

I disagree big time with the article. Knee jerking about a rookie who has only been playing pro football for a couple of weeks is retarded.

And just so you know, our 2nd and 3rd team OL couldn't pass block for **** the other night so it's not surprising Baldwin only got 4 targets.

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 09:55 AM
chiefs were the only team not to score in opening weekend

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 09:55 AM
Only a handful of receivers in the league can make a catch like that.

That was a Larry Fitzgerald type play.

I disagree big time with the article. Knee jerking about a rookie who has only been playing pro football for a couple of weeks is retarded.

And just so you know, our 2nd and 3rd team OL couldn't pass block for **** the other night so it's not surprising Baldwin only got 4 targets.

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Only a few receivers in the league can make a catch against DJ Johnson!

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 09:58 AM
Baldwin is going to be better than any receiver the Broncos have drafted since Brandon Marshall.

And he'll probably be better than Marshall considering he's bigger, faster and has a higher vertical.

DarkHorse
08-15-2011, 09:58 AM
Knee jerking about a rookie who has only been playing pro football for a couple of weeks is retarded.

And jerking off about said guy is any different?


Hilarious!


Larry Fitz - you did not just go there with this guy LOLLOLLOL

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 09:59 AM
Only a handful of receivers in the league can make a catch like that.

That was a Larry Fitzgerald type play.

I disagree big time with the article. Knee jerking about a rookie who has only been playing pro football for a couple of weeks is retarded.

And just so you know, our 2nd and 3rd team OL couldn't pass block for **** the other night so it's not surprising Baldwin only got 4 targets.



i made a jack nicklaus shot this weekend in golf. So I am now jack nicklaus

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 09:59 AM
Baldwin in action:

1-10-KC 20 (11:18) 4-T.Palko pass short left to 89-J.Baldwin to KC 34 for 14 yards (33-E.Mack; 50-T.McKenzie).
1-10-KC 34 (10:45) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete deep left to 89-J.Baldwin.
2-6-KC 22 (12:19) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete short right to 89-J.Baldwin.
1-10-KC 20 (6:08) 13-R.Stanzi pass incomplete deep right to 89-J.Baldwin (29-D.Johnson).

----------------------------------------------

So he caught one of 4 targets against 5th CBs or worse.

"Physical freak"

cutthemdown
08-15-2011, 09:59 AM
A lot of this just isn't from the game. Baldwin can't get off the LOS in practice either. Small fish, meet big pond type situation. Eric Decker will be a better pro.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 09:59 AM
So do you agree or disagree with the OP article or indifferent for now?

Indifferent, other camp reports have been up on Baldwin and he was doing good work when I saw him with my own eyes up on St. Joe. Obviously...as with all the rookies he has a lot to prove and a difficult learning curve.

However, I have faith in Haley's ability to get the most out of a talented WR in the long term.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 10:00 AM
Baldwin is going to be better than any receiver the Broncos have drafted since Brandon Marshall.

And he'll probably be better than Marshall considering he's bigger, faster and has a higher vertical.

Totally.

Now only if he can work on that "catching the ball" thing...

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:00 AM
Baldwin in action:

1-10-KC 20 (11:18) 4-T.Palko pass short left to 89-J.Baldwin to KC 34 for 14 yards (33-E.Mack; 50-T.McKenzie).
1-10-KC 34 (10:45) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete deep left to 89-J.Baldwin.
2-6-KC 22 (12:19) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete short right to 89-J.Baldwin.
1-10-KC 20 (6:08) 13-R.Stanzi pass incomplete deep right to 89-J.Baldwin (29-D.Johnson).

----------------------------------------------

So he caught one of 4 targets against 5th CBs or worse.

"Physical freak"

2nd pass was overthrown and the third was thrown wide...uncatchable balls

the fourth pass was an incredible catch but his head came down out of bounds

cutthemdown
08-15-2011, 10:00 AM
Baldwin is going to be better than any receiver the Broncos have drafted since Brandon Marshall.

And he'll probably be better than Marshall considering he's bigger, faster and has a higher vertical.

I bet Decker does better this yr.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:00 AM
chiefs were the only team not to score in opening weekend

Dexter McCluster was awesome. He had 6 yards on 2 carries.

The KFC OL was dominant, allowing only 7 sacks.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:00 AM
chiefs were the only team not to score in opening weekend

What do you think that means?

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:01 AM
A lot of this just isn't from the game. Baldwin can't get off the LOS in practice either. Small fish, meet big pond type situation. Eric Decker will be a better pro.

This is all stemming from one report from a radio dip**** in KC that no one takes seriously.

Baldwin is 230 ****ing pounds...he'll be fine.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 10:01 AM
Indifferent, other camp reports have been up on Baldwin and he was doing good work when I saw him with my own eyes up on St. Joe. Obviously...as with all the rookies he has a lot to prove and a difficult learning curve.

However, I have faith in Haley's ability to get the most out of a talented WR in the long term.

I agree with your back end statement, but he's going to have to EARN playing time in a pretty talented receiving corps... and I REALLY REALLY think it was an insanely dumb pick.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:02 AM
And jerking off about said guy is any different?


Hilarious!


Larry Fitz - you did not just go there with this guy LOLLOLLOL

Baldwin has elite ball skills.

He is going to be making Randy Moss type catches in this league.

Not just with his hands, but with his leaping ability, too. He had the highest vertical at the combine in 7 years.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:02 AM
Dexter McCluster was awesome. He had 6 yards on 2 carries.

The KFC OL was dominant, allowing only 7 sacks.

I will be sure to have a sit down with our starting center. Chris Herr the rookie out of Tennessee-Chattanooga. I had to Google it.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 10:03 AM
2nd pass was overthrown and the third was thrown wide...uncatchable balls

the fourth pass was an incredible catch but his head came down out of bounds

Translation:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=13796&stc=1&d=1133560577

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:04 AM
I agree with your back end statement, but he's going to have to EARN playing time in a pretty talented receiving corps... and I REALLY REALLY think it was an insanely dumb pick.

He has really long arms and from what everyone has said...a good attitude. He goes up and fights for the ball. If I had to predict right now I expect a lot of good but inconsistent play out of him this year.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:05 AM
Be honest guys, what is Andre Goodman's 5-10 ass going to do against this?

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000JfWh0Jfg14U/s/860/860/Pitt-wide-receiver-Jon-Baldwin-MG-2329.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:05 AM
Also of note in this game, Da'Quan Bowers made his debut for Tampa. Apparently he has been having a good camp.

They got he and Adrian Clayborn in the same draft...added them to Gerald McCoy.

That's how you build a defense, folks.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:06 AM
By the way, Sammy Knight was a solid player for the Chiefs for two years. It wasn't coincidence our defense improved when he arrived.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 10:07 AM
Be honest guys, what is Andre Goodman's 5-10 ass going to do against this?

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000JfWh0Jfg14U/s/860/860/Pitt-wide-receiver-Jon-Baldwin-MG-2329.jpg

I'm no fan of Goodman, but considering he IS an NFL level CB, he'll probably easily do this:

1-10-KC 34 (10:45) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete deep left to 89-J.Baldwin.
2-6-KC 22 (12:19) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete short right to 89-J.Baldwin.
1-10-KC 20 (6:08) 13-R.Stanzi pass incomplete deep right to 89-J.Baldwin (29-D.Johnson).

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:08 AM
Be honest guys, what is Andre Goodman's 5-10 ass going to do against this?

He's going to laugh as Cassel fires the ball over his head for an incomplete pass.

GreatBronco16
08-15-2011, 10:08 AM
Be honest guys, what is Andre Goodman's 5-10 ass going to do against this?

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000JfWh0Jfg14U/s/860/860/Pitt-wide-receiver-Jon-Baldwin-MG-2329.jpg

I don't know, watch him drop it?

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:09 AM
I am glad our organization isn't so obsessed with old broke dick players and is building itself up with young talent but I will say Knight had one of the hardest hits at the end of that Rams game. It capped off a nice win that I enjoyed amongst all my STL friends in college.

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ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:09 AM
I'm no fan of Goodman, but considering he IS an NFL level CB, he'll probably easily do this:

1-10-KC 34 (10:45) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete deep left to 89-J.Baldwin.
2-6-KC 22 (12:19) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete short right to 89-J.Baldwin.
1-10-KC 20 (6:08) 13-R.Stanzi pass incomplete deep right to 89-J.Baldwin (29-D.Johnson).

He will be Tyler Palko throwing nowhere near Baldwin?

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:10 AM
He will be Tyler Palko throwing nowhere near Baldwin?

Its hard to tell the difference between Palko and Cassel.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:12 AM
Its hard to tell the difference between Palko and Cassel.

27/7

vs

Never played an NFL game

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:14 AM
Its hard to tell the difference between Palko and Cassel.

Maybe if you don't know anything about or watch football.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:16 AM
Maybe if you don't know anything about or watch football.

They're both backup quality. Palko may be further down the depth chart, I don't know. I guess that's up to Cassel.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:16 AM
I think how hard some of you are reaching is a more encouraging sign about the Chiefs than any preseason game.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:18 AM
They're both backup quality. Palko may be further down the depth chart, I don't know. I guess that's up to Cassel.

Alrighty.

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/matt-cassel-7-2011-nfl-pro-bowl-nfc-afc-5541-8Bryvk.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:19 AM
They're both backup quality. Palko may be further down the depth chart, I don't know. I guess that's up to Cassel.

What does that make Orton? You're all trying to run him out of town for a lefty with horrible accuracy.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:20 AM
Alrighty.

The final nail in the coffin of the pro-bowl's legitimacy: Matt Cassel made it.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:21 AM
The final nail in the coffin of the pro-bowl's legitimacy: Matt Cassel made it.

Cool story bro.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:22 AM
What does that make Orton? You're all trying to run him out of town for a lefty with horrible accuracy.

We have no delusions about Orton, though he is clearly superior to Matt Cassel.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 10:22 AM
He will be Tyler Palko throwing nowhere near Baldwin?

Palko fared a lot better throwing to other Chief receivers Ha!

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:24 AM
Cool story bro.

If you like irredeemable, catastrophic horror stories then you'll love the one about Matt Cassel and the pro bowl.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:24 AM
Palko fared a lot better throwing to other Chief receivers Ha!

Did he? He was 4\8.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:25 AM
If you like irredeemable, catastrophic horror stories

Then you will really enjoy the Broncos organizational and on the field performances lately.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 10:26 AM
Then you will really enjoy the Broncos organizational and on the field performances lately.

I have no delusions about where the Broncos are.

Chiefs fans on the other hand...delusion is the natural state. You guys have to lie to yourselves before every season to maintain some kind of hope.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:27 AM
ROFL!

gyldenlove
08-15-2011, 10:35 AM
Baldwin is such a freak that even at his college (which is not stacked with offensive talent) they didn't script plays for him and didn't target him that much because he can't get open consistently.

Oh and he didn't have the best Vertical of all time. Virgil Green (7th round pick TE) jumped higher than him this year. Gerald Sensabaugh holds the record, he jumped 4 inches higher than Baldwin did, even Eric Berry jumps higher than Baldwin.

Kaylore
08-15-2011, 10:37 AM
Chiefs suck.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:37 AM
Baldwin is such a freak that even at his college (which is not stacked with offensive talent) they didn't script plays for him and didn't target him that much because he can't get open consistently.

Oh and he didn't have the best Vertical of all time. Virgil Green (7th round pick TE) jumped higher than him this year. Gerald Sensabaugh holds the record, he jumped 4 inches higher than Baldwin did, even Eric Berry jumps higher than Baldwin.

I didn't say he had the best vertical of all time.

He had the best vertical in seven years and definitely the best vertical this year among WIDE RECEIVERS.

In any case a 42-inch vertical is freaking insane.

cmhargrove
08-15-2011, 10:37 AM
The Chiefs fans around here are slipping.

I would have brought up Demarius Thomas in my first post (had I been a Chorfs fan).

gyldenlove
08-15-2011, 10:37 AM
Did he? He was 4\8.

Tyler Palko throwing to Baldwin 1/4 for 14 yards.
Tyler Palko throwing to everyone else 3/4 for 20 yards.

I don't think Palko is the problem in that equation if you see what I am saying.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 10:38 AM
Did he? He was 4\8.

And 1/3 of that was to your "physical freak" vs a 5th string CB.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:38 AM
Tyler Palko throwing to Baldwin 1/4 for 14 yards.
Tyler Palko throwing to everyone else 3/4 for 20 yards.

I don't think Palko is the problem in that equation if you see what I am saying.

Preseason games, how do they work.

Jesus. Who gives a **** about Tyler Palko? Trying to extrapolate player success based on preseason is like using Madden to predict season results.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 10:39 AM
I didn't say he had the best vertical of all time.

He had the best vertical in seven years and definitely the best vertical this year among WIDE RECEIVERS.

In any case a 42-inch vertical is freaking insane.

...but he just showed you're full of ****.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 10:40 AM
Preseason games, how do they work.

Jesus. Who gives a **** about Tyler Palko? Trying to extrapolate player success based on preseason is like using Madden to predict season results.

Yet you took the time to make a gif of a third string pre-season play...

Soul-Bronco
08-15-2011, 10:41 AM
Baldwin has elite ball skills.He is going to be making Randy Moss type catches in this league.

Not just with his hands, but with his leaping ability, too. He had the highest vertical at the combine in 7 years.


yea im sure......seems like a pre-req to be a chief, elite "BALL" skills, Definitely a trait that rolls down the chin of head coach Failey onto his players

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 10:42 AM
...but he just showed you're full of ****.

My mistake.

Second-best in six years among WR by half an inch.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#year=2006-2007-2008-2009-2010-2011&workout=VERTICAL_JUMP&position=WR

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:43 AM
Tyler Palko throwing to Baldwin 1/4 for 14 yards.
Tyler Palko throwing to everyone else 3/4 for 20 yards.

I don't think Palko is the problem in that equation if you see what I am saying.

Honestly.

I don't.

lol.

Stagger Lee
08-15-2011, 10:47 AM
Honestly.

I don't.

lol.

Shocking. A KC fan struggling with simple math.

gyldenlove
08-15-2011, 10:49 AM
Honestly.

I don't.

lol.

I.

Am not.

Surprised.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 10:52 AM
Shocking. A KC fan struggling with simple math.

No.

Just struggling with people extrapolating information from a preseason game to mean more than they really do.

Palko wasn't throwing to Baldwin and other WRs in a bubble. The flow of the game...plays called...blocking effectiveness (or lack of), and defensive play call are what shape the progression of those plays in addition to throws and catches.

"Durrr Palko threw gud to othur reseevers but your 1 rnd pik is a bust" rings extremely hollow to me.

It also shows these people simply did not watch the game with their own eyes. I don't blame them for that. It was a meaningless preseason game. Some of the passes that they are crediting for being thrown "at" Baldwin are being very generous to Tyler Palko.

Inkana7
08-15-2011, 10:59 AM
My mistake.

Second-best in six years among WR by half an inch.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#year=2006-2007-2008-2009-2010-2011&workout=VERTICAL_JUMP&position=WR

Wow that's some really narrow criteria you've come up with. How does he rank in the last 4 years among WR's from the Big East who declared early?

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 11:01 AM
is this the first year in awhile that the chiefs havent had a top 10 pick?

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 11:02 AM
Wow that's some really narrow criteria you've come up with. How does he rank in the last 4 years among WR's from the Big East who declared early?

A 6 year spin amongst his own position?

I didn't read his original statement but I don't see how saying you were good at something amongst your own position in the NFL with all its amazing athletes in the last 6 years is that much of an outlier.

broncocalijohn
08-15-2011, 11:11 AM
Just for points, I see posters here putting way to much credit (or lack of) for a preseason game. Hell, Epic is calling the 25 to 0 loss "the start of the season". WTF is that? They sucked in their first preseason game, but it is preseason! The Chargers went 0-4 in their preseason the year they went to the SuperBowl. Then we have this "bust" making a great catch. Sure, he is playing against scrubs but it is a very athletic catch. I don't care who you are or who you played against, that is nice concentration. Ball thrown behind him and the receiver and he makes the catch. Does that move him up the charts for the Chiefs? Probably not and he will be looked at as a failure for being a 3rd string receiver as a #1 pick. Some just love to argue. Laugh at their pick but nitpicking is unbelievable when we were the 2nd worst team in the league.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 11:12 AM
So when are the Chafes going to have something to brag about other than being slightly possibly better than the Broncos while the Broncos are coming out of their worst season in decades?

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 11:17 AM
Wow that's some really narrow criteria you've come up with. How does he rank in the last 4 years among WR's from the Big East who declared early?

How is that narrow?

Wide receiver is a huge position group.

I'd go back further than six years but the data isn't available.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 11:19 AM
So when are the Chafes going to have something to brag about other than being slightly possibly better than the Broncos while the Broncos are coming out of their worst season in decades?

Slightly?

The Broncos are not the measuring stick for success for the Chiefs. We got to the playoffs in year 3 of a rebuild not that far away from a 2 win season with young ascending players. The goal has not been even close to being met but then again this team has not even begun to peak.

For fans of simple math that popped up in this thread you can multiply the Broncos record last year by 2 and still fall 2 games short of having as many wins as the Chiefs.

Bottom dwelling Broncos are not the goal.

Inkana7
08-15-2011, 11:22 AM
Slightly?

The Broncos are not the measuring stick for success for the Chiefs. We got to the playoffs in year 3 of a rebuild not that far away from a 2 win season with young ascending players. The goal has not been even close to being met but then again this team has not even begun to peak.

For fans of simple math that popped up in this thread you can multiply the Broncos record last year by 2 and still fall 2 games short of having as many wins as the Chiefs.

Bottom dwelling Broncos are not the goal.

Really? Did you guys hold a convention and shake things up?

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 11:23 AM
Slightly?

The Broncos are not the measuring stick for success for the Chiefs. We got to the playoffs in year 3 of a rebuild not that far away from a 2 win season with young ascending players. The goal has not been even close to being met but then again this team has not even begun to peak.

For fans of simple math that popped up in this thread you can multiply the Broncos record last year by 2 and still fall 2 games short of having as many wins as the Chiefs.

Bottom dwelling Broncos are not the goal.

The Broncos are not the "goal", but they are the mark twain.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 11:23 AM
Really? Did you guys hold a convention and shake things up?

Nah, we just built a young good team.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 11:25 AM
The Broncos are not the "goal", but they are the mark twain.

They are not any of those things.

All the Broncos are at this point are an organization in the 1st year of a rebuild with a new coach trying to turn things around in a labor shortened off season with only a few of the pieces needed. That is making no mention of the QB drama\hilarity.

DENVERDUI55
08-15-2011, 11:25 AM
Baldwin=D. Thomas. Both busts. One preseason game and this guy is a bust for different reasons.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 11:26 AM
They are not any of those things.

All the Broncos are at this point are an organization in the 1st year of a rebuild with a new coach trying to turn things around in a labor shortened off season with only a few of the pieces needed. That is making no mention of the QB drama\hilarity.

The Broncos' franchise and history of success is certainly a measure that the Chafes keep in mind.

Houshyamama
08-15-2011, 11:28 AM
Baldwin is going to be better than any receiver the Broncos have drafted since Brandon Marshall.

And he'll probably be better than Marshall considering he's bigger, faster and has a higher vertical.

you are such a ******

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 11:30 AM
The Broncos' franchise and history of success is certainly a measure that the Chafes keep in mind.

It is the MLS that started in 1996. Not the NFL.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-STYoKDEKf0k/TeTgAH3udsI/AAAAAAAABdI/aCyF2SGd0Cg/s640/mls.gif

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 11:32 AM
It is the MLS that started in 1996. Not the NFL.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-STYoKDEKf0k/TeTgAH3udsI/AAAAAAAABdI/aCyF2SGd0Cg/s640/mls.gif

The Chiefs have been irrelevant for so long that their fanbase doesn't even know what its like to win.

The Broncos? 6 superbowls for this generation.

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 11:36 AM
It is the MLS that started in 1996. Not the NFL.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-STYoKDEKf0k/TeTgAH3udsI/AAAAAAAABdI/aCyF2SGd0Cg/s640/mls.gif


sorted by franchise wins

http://mcubed.net/nfl/fwtot.shtml

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 11:37 AM
The Chiefs have been irrelevant for so long that their fanbase doesn't even know what its like to win.

The Broncos? 6 superbowls for this generation.

the broncos won more superbowls in just 2 years then the chiefs have one in their entire existence.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 11:40 AM
the broncos won more superbowls in just 2 years then the chiefs have one in their entire existence.

You just threw a paradox in right there that is both wrong and right at the same time.

I am not even mad that was amazing.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 11:41 AM
Since we are not talking about football in the here and now I expect this thread to be absolutely flooded.

Houshyamama
08-15-2011, 11:46 AM
The Chiefs franchise is close to irrelevant. They haven't mattered for the last... 40 years?

Congrats on winning the AFC West special olympics last year, it's very unlikely you'll repeat the feat.

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 11:48 AM
You just threw a paradox in right there that is both wrong and right at the same time.

I am not even mad that was amazing.


It takes skillz

Houshyamama
08-15-2011, 11:58 AM
Chiefs playoff victories since they became the Chiefs in 1963: 7 (4 of them prior to 1970 LOL )

Playoff wins since 1970:

Kansas City

Wildcard: 2
Divisional: 1
Conference: 0 Hilarious!
Super Bowl: 0 Hilarious!

Denver

Wildcard: 1
Divisional: 8
Conference: 6
Super Bowl: 2

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

The Chiefs are the Stoke City of the NFL.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 11:59 AM
you are such a ******

Just the facts, my man.

u mad?

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 11:59 AM
Oh wow. EPL talk from a team that would have been relegated last year.

DenverBrit
08-15-2011, 12:14 PM
physical freak that will own ........yadda, yadda.

You say that about every KC draft pick. Ha!

DaFace
08-15-2011, 12:18 PM
Weird. I wonder if PFT's writers actually watched the preseason games or read anything about how camp is going. This is the polar opposite of everything I've been reading.

Houshyamama
08-15-2011, 12:20 PM
Oh wow. EPL talk from a team that would have been relegated last year.

I'm going to call KC Stoke City from now on. Your optimism is just adorable.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 12:22 PM
I'm going to call KC Stoke City from now on. Your optimism is just adorable.

Sounds like a sick burn.

Houshyamama
08-15-2011, 12:25 PM
Sounds like a sick burn.

:)

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 01:11 PM
You say that about every KC draft pick. Ha!

There is literally zero history of this. In fact, I am going to do a search on my user name right now to prove you wrong.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 01:17 PM
There is literally zero history of this. In fact, I am going to do a search on my user name right now to prove you wrong.

But... you really do.

You have an extremely long history of completely over-valuing really ****ty football players.

The funny thing is, if you said Breaston was going to own Goodman, I'll bet a lot of people would grudgingly nod their heads. But when you say it about a kid who can't get space against one of the worst players in the NFL... Ha!

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 01:20 PM
Here is the ONE occurrence of me calling a player a "freak" in the past 7 years.

I'm pretty happy with all of KC's picks so far. The WR we just grabbed has great measurables. He looks like a freak:

http://photos.signonsandiego.com/gallery1.5/albums/aztecs/JBsdsuUclaA244827x0033.jpg

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper741/stills/3o5w2x5g.jpg

Yep, that totally points to a history of overvaluing draft picks!

DenverBrit
08-15-2011, 01:23 PM
Here is the ONE occurrence of me calling a player a "freak" in the past 7 years.



Yep, that totally points to a history of overvaluing draft picks!

You do it all the time.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 01:23 PM
You have an extremely long history of completely over-valuing really ****ty football players.


I don't, actually.

I made a terrible mistake with the Chiefs' 2005 free agent class, mostly Kendrell Bell, and I once said something stupid about Samie Parker, but other than that I'm pretty objective.

I certainly wasn't on here crowing about Mike Vrabel when we picked him up.....or anyone like Broderick Bunkley.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 01:24 PM
You do it all the time.

There is literally no proof of it.

I have trashed picks like Tyson Jackson, Dexter McCluster, etc.

DenverBrit
08-15-2011, 01:24 PM
But... you really do.

You have an extremely long history of completely over-valuing really ****ty football players.

The funny thing is, if you said Breaston was going to own Goodman, I'll bet a lot of people would grudgingly nod their heads. But when you say it about a kid who can't get space against one of the worst players in the NFL... Ha!

Yeah, but he jumps really high. Ha!

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 01:25 PM
Yeah, but he jumps really high. Ha!

Like Randy Moss. He jumped high.

Kaylore
08-15-2011, 01:42 PM
Did someone say "Sturugaling."

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Gc65NC44dSk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peoples Champ
08-15-2011, 01:46 PM
what will come first?

chiefs win a superbowl

or

Tiger Woods winning a major?

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 01:59 PM
what will come first?

chiefs win a superbowl

or

Tiger Woods winning a major?

The rapture.

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 02:13 PM
even if baldwin pans out, all it will take is a jeff gillooly to hire a goon and wack the wr in the knee with a baseball bat. stay down b****!

Thanks, bob.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 02:23 PM
Thanks, bob.

Actually this is your own homegrown troll. He has a long history of threats of violence and death on me even unwanted usage of my phone number.

No biggie. Just someone who is unbalanced and has serious issues but lets just leave the jokes aside and call this one what it is.

ColoradoDarin
08-15-2011, 02:27 PM
even if baldwin pans out, all it will take is a jeff gillooly to hire a goon and wack the wr in the knee with a baseball bat. stay down b****!

Is this the same poster who just got banned a day or two ago?

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 02:55 PM
I don't, actually.

I made a terrible mistake with the Chiefs' 2005 free agent class, mostly Kendrell Bell, and I once said something stupid about Samie Parker, but other than that I'm pretty objective.

I certainly wasn't on here crowing about Mike Vrabel when we picked him up.....or anyone like Broderick Bunkley.

...Link to someone crowning Bunkley?

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 02:59 PM
There is literally no proof of it.

I have trashed picks like Tyson Jackson, Dexter McCluster, etc.

Sure you have.

Tyson Jackson made two huge plays tonight, BTW. Tipped pass for a pick six, sack on third down. Beat the guard on pure quickness and strength.

Stud.

Marvin Harrison was just as frail.

We hit gold with McCluster. I can't wait to see Brian Dawkins attempt to tackle him.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-15-2011, 03:41 PM
Holy crap, Bob, tap the breaks on the overrating of players. Fitzgerald? Moss comparisons?

And most guys, regardless of draft position, look pretty damn good. They're all physical freaks and work hard to get to where they are. Looking good and playing good are two different things.

KCStud
08-15-2011, 04:04 PM
I'm still laughing my ass off at the Bronco fans on this site that take anything a team does in preseason to be legitimate.

Oh and on the Baldwin play, he wasn't trying to get separation from the defender. Stanzi underthrew the ball and Baldwin had to come back to get it.

KCStud
08-15-2011, 04:07 PM
Baldwin in action:

1-10-KC 20 (11:18) 4-T.Palko pass short left to 89-J.Baldwin to KC 34 for 14 yards (33-E.Mack; 50-T.McKenzie).
1-10-KC 34 (10:45) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete deep left to 89-J.Baldwin.
2-6-KC 22 (12:19) 4-T.Palko pass incomplete short right to 89-J.Baldwin.
1-10-KC 20 (6:08) 13-R.Stanzi pass incomplete deep right to 89-J.Baldwin (29-D.Johnson).

----------------------------------------------

So he caught one of 4 targets against 5th CBs or worse.

"Physical freak"

I'm not claiming Baldwin is going to be an all-pro, but why don't we wait until the regular season when a first string QB is throwing him the ball to see his real skills.

JCsuperstar
08-15-2011, 04:11 PM
The real question is why would you make a gif of a play that wasn't even a catch?

cutthemdown
08-15-2011, 04:15 PM
The post wasn't really saying he would never be any good. It was that he is struggling. I don't see many rookie WR doing well because they had no offseason to learn the route tree and the adjustments of those route dependent on formation, and what the defensive coverage is.

I did say he has bust written all over him, and I say that because:

a- wr bust a whole lot
b- the lockout keeping him from learning
c- He had some character issues
d- I hate the Queefs and like to hope for them having bad luck
e- the buzz is he hasn't looked good in practices or games.

cutthemdown
08-15-2011, 04:17 PM
I always do argue you can tell a lot from preseason games. Not from the score, but if you know what to look for you can see what positions are deep, what ones are not, if players have recovered from injuries, and how individual players look doing their job.

I only needed to see Bailey on 1 play last yr to know wow he looks healthy, in good shape, and recovered from his injury. Same with this yr he looks great already.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-15-2011, 04:21 PM
Does it matter if it's preseason or the regular season if a guy is 5th on the depth chart and can't separate from a no-name CB?

KCStud
08-15-2011, 04:22 PM
The post wasn't really saying he would never be any good. It was that he is struggling. I don't see many rookie WR doing well because they had no offseason to learn the route tree and the adjustments of those route dependent on formation, and what the defensive coverage is.

I did say he has bust written all over him, and I say that because:

a- wr bust a whole lot
b- the lockout keeping him from learning
c- He had some character issues
d- I hate the Queefs and like to hope for them having bad luck
e- the buzz is he hasn't looked good in practices or games.

He doesn't have character issues like people are making it out to be.

KCStud
08-15-2011, 04:25 PM
Does it matter if it's preseason or the regular season if a guy is 5th on the depth chart and can't separate from a no-name CB?

He wasn't separating. Stanzi underthrew the ball and he had to come back to get it.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 04:32 PM
I'm still laughing my ass off at the Bronco fans on this site that take anything a team does in preseason to be legitimate.

Oh and on the Baldwin play, he wasn't trying to get separation from the defender. Stanzi underthrew the ball and Baldwin had to come back to get it.

L-O-L

I'm not claiming Baldwin is going to be an all-pro, but why don't we wait until the regular season when a first string QB is throwing him the ball to see his real skills.

He's gotta get on the field first.

cutthemdown
08-15-2011, 04:36 PM
He doesn't have character issues like people are making it out to be.

Which is why it was number 3 lol, also I only said some, not like I said serious character issues. :strong:

KCStud
08-15-2011, 04:54 PM
L-O-L



He's gotta get on the field first.


Well he is a first round pick who just started practicing 2 weeks ago. Haley doesn't want to rush players, especially the rookies. He's being extremely conservative.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 04:57 PM
Let's be honest, there is no way Andre Goodman is stopping Baldwin this year.

Champ might, but then Goodman has to cover Bowe.

I think you'll see the Broncos double Bowe and try to stop Sir Baldwin with Champ.

KCStud
08-15-2011, 05:06 PM
Let's be honest, there is no way Andre Goodman is stopping Baldwin this year.

Champ might, but then Goodman has to cover Bowe.

I think you'll see the Broncos double Bowe and try to stop Sir Baldwin with Champ.

Stop being ignorant Bob. Champ shut down Bowe last time they played. He's one of the best.
Champ is able to shut any of our receivers down. That's why I'm glad we have Breaston and Baldwin.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 05:13 PM
Well he is a first round pick who just started practicing 2 weeks ago. Haley doesn't want to rush players, especially the rookies. He's being extremely conservative.

And that's a very fair assessment.

Are you sure you don't want to run out and make a gif of him catching one ball in several quarters of play against a bubble player?

MagicHef
08-15-2011, 05:15 PM
And that's a very fair assessment.

Are you sure you don't want to run out and make a gif of him not catching one ball in several quarters of play against a bubble player?

FYP

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 05:22 PM
Stop being ignorant Bob. Champ shut down Bowe last time they played. He's one of the best.
Champ is able to shut any of our receivers down. That's why I'm glad we have Breaston and Baldwin.

He's also a year older, a year slower, and six inches shorter than Baldwin.

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 05:25 PM
He's also a year older, a year slower, and six inches shorter than Baldwin.

...and has a top career in the NFL as opposed to Mr 3rd String.

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 05:28 PM
...and has a top career in the NFL as opposed to Mr 3rd String.

ROFL! Oh you.

oubronco
08-15-2011, 05:29 PM
http://s.myniceprofile.com/myspacepic/106/10608.gif

oubronco
08-15-2011, 05:36 PM
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2011/0815/20110815__broncos-eric-decker-camp~p1.jpg

KCStud
08-15-2011, 06:02 PM
And that's a very fair assessment.

Are you sure you don't want to run out and make a gif of him catching one ball in several quarters of play against a bubble player?

Ha! we'll let Clayton stick to that. This place would be boring without his banter.

Steve Sewell
08-15-2011, 06:08 PM
Bob has been following this young man for quite some time:

29027

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Eric Decker's so awesome he's behind Eddie freaking Royal. ROFL!

Besides, White Men Can't Jump.

http://i55.tinypic.com/34pm5ut.jpg

Crushisback
08-15-2011, 06:29 PM
I'm not claiming Baldwin is going to be an all-pro, but why don't we wait until the regular season when a first string QB is throwing him the ball to see his real skills.

The point is. If he's Fitzgeraldesque why is he trying to catch passes from backups instead of your starter?

ZachKC
08-15-2011, 06:34 PM
The point is. If he's Fitzgeraldesque why is he trying to catch passes from backups instead of your starter?

Our starter didn't throw a single pass.

cutthemdown
08-15-2011, 06:39 PM
Baldwin won't be smart enough to play much early in the yr. It will Bowe and Breaston. Decker further along which is why i say he will probably play better. Royal I am not sold on really but for now he is the starter. I see Decker playing a ton though.

DaFace
08-15-2011, 06:41 PM
I think there's been more discussion about the Chiefs preseason game on here than on ChiefsPlanet.

Ironlung
08-15-2011, 07:03 PM
What is there to discuss about a shutout beatdown?

epicSocialism4tw
08-15-2011, 07:20 PM
I think there's been more discussion about the Chiefs preseason game on here than on ChiefsPlanet.

Of course.

You guys are probably acting like it never happened.

DaFace
08-15-2011, 07:25 PM
Of course.

You guys are probably acting like it never happened.

No, we're acting like it was the first preseason game in which one-third of our starters never even took the field. I know you guys are hard up for some good news, but come on...there are far worse indicators for the Chiefs that you could latch onto than anything that happened in that game.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 07:35 PM
Sure you have.

Unlike you, I can admit when I have been owned, and you just owned me.

Tombstone RJ
08-15-2011, 07:56 PM
I think there's been more discussion about the Chiefs preseason game on here than on ChiefsPlanet.

Da Nile ain't just a river in Egypt...

TheReverend
08-15-2011, 08:16 PM
Unlike you, I can admit when I have been owned, and you just owned me.

Lol I don't have a problem admitting it at all.

HAT just got me today or yesterday after I claimed Grossman looked good against "solid defenses" last year. Couldve tried to spin some stat where the defenses he played look good, but he was right so I admitted it and repped him like I should.

You're just going to have to do better than lying about Dorsey

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 08:31 PM
:strong:

http://i54.tinypic.com/rwrrqq.png

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2011, 08:32 PM
You're just going to have to do better than lying about Dorsey

Statistical proof from the internet's foremost authority on NFL player evaluation is lying?

Whatever.

Agamemnon
08-15-2011, 08:36 PM
I think there's been more discussion about the Chiefs preseason game on here than on ChiefsPlanet.

So what do you guys talk about if not the first game in 8 months? How much of douche-nozzle your coach is? How you've spent all those top picks on defensive lineman that all suck? What's the topic that keeps you morons going?

DaFace
08-15-2011, 08:40 PM
So what do you guys talk about if not the first game in 8 months? How much of douche-nozzle your coach is? How you've spent all those top picks on defensive lineman that all suck? What's the topic that keeps you morons going?

Oh, the usual BS makes up the majority of discussion. Most of the Chiefs-related discussion at the moment, however, revolves around training camp. Go figure.

Steve Sewell
08-16-2011, 08:06 AM
So Chiefs fans, are you prepared for your beatdown by a bad Broncos team at Mile High again this year?

If Josh McDaniels hurt Todd's widdle feewings last year, imagine what John Fox is going to do.

Dagmar
08-16-2011, 08:11 AM
So Chiefs fans, are you prepared for your beatdown by a bad Broncos team at Mile High again this year?

If Josh McDaniels hurt Todd's widdle feewings last year, imagine what John Fox is going to do.

Depends if Orton goes fetal again.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-16-2011, 08:25 AM
Bob, going by your gif and the pictures you keep posting, is there anyone on that Chiefs roster that's capable of throwing a clean ball to your guy?

DaFace
08-16-2011, 09:49 AM
Bob, going by your gif and the pictures you keep posting, is there anyone on that Chiefs roster that's capable of throwing a clean ball to your guy?

Cassel, but he didn't play last Friday. (Not saying that he's necessarily "capable of throwing a clean ball" either, but he's at least better than the other guys.)

Stagger Lee
08-16-2011, 09:57 AM
Cassel, but he didn't play last Friday. (Not saying that he's necessarily "capable of throwing a clean ball" either, but he's at least better than the other guys.)

That's the most honest assessment of Cassel I've seen from a Chiefs fan.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 10:40 AM
So Chiefs fans, are you prepared for your beatdown by a bad Broncos team at Mile High again this year?

If Josh McDaniels hurt Todd's widdle feewings last year, imagine what John Fox is going to do.

1. You need to realize the Broncos are one of the worst teams in the NFL: No QB, one threat on offense, no d-line, an aging secondary.

2. You need to realize that John Fox sucks.

3. By Week 8 or 9 the realization of these truths will hit you like a freight train.

BMF Bronco
08-16-2011, 10:45 AM
1. You need to realize the Broncos are one of the worst teams in the NFL: No QB, one threat on offense, no d-line, an aging secondary.

2. You need to realize that John Fox sucks.

3. By Week 8 or 9 the realization of these truths will hit you like a freight train.

And the Chiefs are???

Peoples Champ
08-16-2011, 11:18 AM
And the Chiefs are???


in their "good years"

DaFace
08-16-2011, 11:19 AM
That's the most honest assessment of Cassel I've seen from a Chiefs fan.

Not that I necessarily plan to stick around, but I don't really get into the home-team mentality of argument that some people do. That's a lot of the reason I tend to stay off of other teams' boards - it's tough to cut through the BS and find unbiased discussion.

Peoples Champ
08-16-2011, 11:28 AM
Not that I necessarily plan to stick around, but I don't really get into the home-team mentality of argument that some people do. That's a lot of the reason I tend to stay off of other teams' boards - it's tough to cut through the BS and find unbiased discussion.


Ya thats a great point. Are there a lot of Broncos fans on Chiefs boards?

DaFace
08-16-2011, 11:51 AM
Ya thats a great point. Are there a lot of Broncos fans on Chiefs boards?

Oh, we probably have maybe 5-10 regulars on ChiefsPlanet who are Broncos fans, and they run the gamut from one ultra-homer to others who are pretty level-headed. I'd be lying if I said that those who are pretty realistic don't have to put up with their fair share of BS from some Chiefs fans who are big on taking sides, though. It's just kind of the way message boards work - not anything that's specific to either OM or CP.

Stagger Lee
08-16-2011, 12:25 PM
Not that I necessarily plan to stick around, but I don't really get into the home-team mentality of argument that some people do. That's a lot of the reason I tend to stay off of other teams' boards - it's tough to cut through the BS and find unbiased discussion.

Very true.

oubronco
08-16-2011, 12:26 PM
Do you see how perfectly the QB lays the ball out for the reciever? Broncos Football!!
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2011/0815/20110815__broncos-eric-decker-camp~p1.jpg

KCStud
08-16-2011, 01:05 PM
A lot of WR's bust, but I think it's because they didn't make many big plays in college, think they're above everyone else and don't practice hard, or they simply don't focus on AND off the field.

Heyward Bey, Crabtree, Rogers, Buster Davis. All those guys have one of those traits.

For a long time Bowe thought he was above everyone and didn't focus off the field and it showed, until Haley came to town and made him better.

As for Baldwin, he reminds me of Calvin Johnson. He isn't as talented as Johnson is and probably won't be as good as him in the NFL, but I think Baldwin has the right material to make the plays and be a similar playmaker to Johnson (same build, good hands, long strider who can jump for the ball).

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-16-2011, 01:14 PM
Baldwin = Fitzgerald, Moss and now Calvin Johnson. Swell.

KCStud
08-16-2011, 01:18 PM
Baldwin = Fitzgerald, Moss and now Calvin Johnson. Swell.

Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points, is it?

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 01:34 PM
Baldwin = Fitzgerald, Moss and now Calvin Johnson. Swell.

He has the ball skills of Larry Fitzgerald, the leaping and catching ability of Randy Moss and the physique of Calvin Johnson.

If he had elite speed he would be better than all three of those players but he runs in the low 4.4s.

Still. :strong:

TheReverend
08-16-2011, 01:39 PM
He has the ball skills of Larry Fitzgerald, the leaping and catching ability of Randy Moss and the physique of Calvin Johnson.

If he had elite speed AND SHOWED THAT HE COULD PRODUCE IN COLLEGE IN A ****TY CONFERENCE he would be better than all three of those players but he runs in the low 4.4s.

Still. :strong:

Fixed bro.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 01:49 PM
Baldwin didn't have elite numbers in college because he played with god awful QBs.

Agamemnon
08-16-2011, 01:49 PM
A lot of WR's bust, but I think it's because they didn't make many big plays in college, think they're above everyone else and don't practice hard, or they simply don't focus on AND off the field.

Heyward Bey, Crabtree, Rogers, Buster Davis. All those guys have one of those traits.

For a long time Bowe thought he was above everyone and didn't focus off the field and it showed, until Haley came to town and made him better.

As for Baldwin, he reminds me of Calvin Johnson. He isn't as talented as Johnson is and probably won't be as good as him in the NFL, but I think Baldwin has the right material to make the plays and be a similar playmaker to Johnson (same build, good hands, long strider who can jump for the ball).

A WR that talented would at least be the #2 or #3 guy on your team, even as a rookie. Baldwin's sitting at #5 right now.

TheReverend
08-16-2011, 01:50 PM
Baldwin didn't have elite numbers in college because he played with god awful QBs.

Should've been balanced out by the dog **** level of competition, don't ya think?

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 01:52 PM
Should've been balanced out by the dog **** level of competition, don't ya think?

No, not really. What is he supposed to do, leap 5 yards extra for overthrown passes? Break the tackle of every defender on the balls that are actually catchable?

No. Baldwin did well in college. You are a fool, Reverend. A FOOL.

DEMARYIUS THOMAS? HAHAHAHA!

KCStud
08-16-2011, 01:52 PM
Fixed bro.

Nah he didn't produce at all.
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ZachKC
08-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Nothing about Baldwin had led me to believe he won't pan out as a solid starter for his. The article the OP linked is honestly the first negative assessment of Baldwin I have read.

KCStud
08-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Should've been balanced out by the dog **** level of competition, don't ya think?

More of Baldwin underachieving in a bad conference.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uSEQJPwjgo&feature=related

KCStud
08-16-2011, 01:56 PM
And even more just for you Rev :wave:

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KCStud
08-16-2011, 01:58 PM
Nothing about Baldwin had led me to believe he won't pan out as a solid starter for his. The article the OP linked is honestly the first negative assessment of Baldwin I have read.

I agree. I was skeptical of Bowe because he had serious trouble catching balls at the in Mobile and the combine, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe he's going to bust. His work ethic has been great so far.

ZachKC
08-16-2011, 01:59 PM
I agree. I was skeptical of Bowe because he had serious trouble catching balls at the in Mobile and the combine, but I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe he's going to bust. His work ethic has been great so far.

This is NFL football so he may do well and he may not. I am not one to make over reaching statements but yea...signs point to him fitting in well with the offense in Kansas City.

Peoples Champ
08-16-2011, 02:01 PM
why are we talking trash about this rookie, he could turn out bad or he could turn out good? We should talk crap about players we know are bad, like Matt "white" Cassell.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-16-2011, 02:24 PM
Reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points, is it?

I understood what you wrote. Maybe you and your brethren should step away from even remotely mentioning other big-name WR talents when comparing some nobody. Lots of NFL WRs are long, tall and capable of stretching out for a catch.

And now you're using college games from Youtube as your evidence of his play? Let's dig up some tape of Jamarcus Russell or Charles Rogers. They looked awesome in college, too. But I like how you guys are all reacting. Someone posts one knock on Baldwin and 3-4 of you coming running with videos and photos as your defense. I could care less about the kid - best of luck to him with his career. It's pointless to overreact to someone that's having a hard time climbing the depth chart right now. Hey! He was good in college!

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 02:52 PM
Lots of NFL WRs are long, tall and capable of stretching out for a catch.


Yeah but not all of them can track the ball can bring it in.

Baldwin has incredible, elite ability to do this.

TheReverend
08-16-2011, 02:54 PM
No, not really. What is he supposed to do, leap 5 yards extra for overthrown passes? Break the tackle of every defender on the balls that are actually catchable?

No. Baldwin did well in college. You are a fool, Reverend. A FOOL.

DEMARYIUS THOMAS? HAHAHAHA!

He's an "upside" draft pick, nothing more, nothing less. And that's the truth.

You invested a first round pick for him to do something he has yet to do against steeper competition.

I'm sorry if that's the reality. Oh and I didn't and still don't like the Demaryius Thomas pick, so maybe throw that one in a different direction?

TheReverend
08-16-2011, 02:55 PM
Yeah but not all of them can track the ball can bring it in.

Baldwin has incredible, elite ability to do this.

Pinnacle of his career: THIRD team All-American. In 09.

DENVERDUI55
08-16-2011, 04:47 PM
No, not really. What is he supposed to do, leap 5 yards extra for overthrown passes? Break the tackle of every defender on the balls that are actually catchable?

No. Baldwin did well in college. You are a fool, Reverend. A FOOL.

DEMARYIUS THOMAS? HAHAHAHA!

The only way you can argue is with stats because you don't understand the game right?

Jimmy
08-16-2011, 04:48 PM
cant wish failure upon this guy, no matter what his deal is. i hope he goes onto have a hall of fame career but that the chiefs go 0-16 the next 10 years.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 05:00 PM
The only way you can argue is with stats because you don't understand the game right?

Rev is the one arguing with stats.

KCStud
08-16-2011, 08:01 PM
A WR that talented would at least be the #2 or #3 guy on your team, even as a rookie. Baldwin's sitting at #5 right now.

It's preseason...

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-16-2011, 08:06 PM
Julio Jones seems to be having little trouble with it.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 08:13 PM
Julio Jones seems to be having little trouble with it.

Do you really think, in the grand scheme of things, a preseason depth chart means ****

Jesus Christ. This is standard Todd Haley ****.

Literally no one will remember this NEXT MONTH.

Bronx33
08-16-2011, 08:15 PM
And yet bob is here?

The Joker
08-16-2011, 08:46 PM
Preseason depth charts mean very little to be fair.

Regardless, I still think he was a strange choice for the Chiefs. Bowe stepped up and showed he can get it done as a #1 WR last year, they should be looking to build their offense around Charles so spending a high pick on a WR seemed odd to me.

maher_tyler
08-16-2011, 09:20 PM
Late to the party but I would be slightly worried if our 1st round WR couldn't beat 3rd string DB's...

McDman
08-16-2011, 09:50 PM
Late to the party but I would be slightly worried if our 1st round WR couldn't beat 3rd string DB's...

Too bad we'll never actually know what out 1st round receiver is going to look like.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 10:05 PM
Late to the party but I would be slightly worried if our 1st round WR couldn't beat 3rd string DB's...

Yeah man, he can't beat anybody.

http://i56.tinypic.com/15glfa.jpg

Perry1977
08-16-2011, 10:05 PM
Lol, better than Brandon Marshall because he can jump higher? Fool, Marshall has more game in his pinky than this chump has in his entire body. Measurables do not matter when it comes to being a baller, son.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 10:12 PM
Lol, better than Brandon Marshall because he can jump higher? Fool, Marshall has more game in his pinky than this chump has in his entire body. Measurables do not matter when it comes to being a baller, son.

Ballin'

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Purple_Faithful/Jonathan_Baldwin.jpg

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000ZUsTwbLpJPk/s/860/860/Jonathan-Baldwin-makes-a-36-yard-TD-catch-MG-5632.jpg

Inkana7
08-16-2011, 10:13 PM
Yeah man, he can't beat anybody.

http://i56.tinypic.com/15glfa.jpg

So, not only is a snapshot worthless evidence of anything, it's a snapshot of practice, and contradicts every refutation of "Baldwin sucks" you've made in this thread.

Btw, Baldwin sucks.

Inkana7
08-16-2011, 10:14 PM
Ballin'

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/Purple_Faithful/Jonathan_Baldwin.jpg

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000ZUsTwbLpJPk/s/860/860/Jonathan-Baldwin-makes-a-36-yard-TD-catch-MG-5632.jpg

Looks like Dwayne Jarrett to me.

Perry1977
08-16-2011, 10:18 PM
Ballin'


No, idiot.

Ballin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgEYUZaUItk

Making catches and going down to first contact 90% of the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbzuT2K0B68

It's not even close. Not even remotely close. You're an idiot if you think it is.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-16-2011, 11:07 PM
So, not only is a snapshot worthless evidence of anything, it's a snapshot of practice, and contradicts every refutation of "Baldwin sucks" you've made in this thread.

Btw, Baldwin sucks.

Like preseason games are anything beyond glorified practice. ROFL!

He beat someone in that photo...and beat them so bad they're long gone and he's stiff-arming Eric Berry way down the field.

He makes Berry look small, too. :strong:

Andre Goodman is gonna look like Mugsy Bogues next to this guy.

U scared?

Rausch 2.0
08-17-2011, 04:29 AM
So, not only is a snapshot worthless evidence of anything, it's a snapshot of practice, and contradicts every refutation of "Baldwin sucks" you've made in this thread.

Btw, Baldwin sucks.

Keeping this one.

Could be good for laughs in the future...

TheReverend
08-17-2011, 06:07 AM
Rev is the one arguing with stats.

Eh. I'm more arguing with production in this case... or the lack thereof while you cling to his measurables and literally nothing else.

But congratulations. A first round pick on a "physical freak" who netted 800 yards in the Big ****ing East is QUITE the accomplishment!

:thumbsup:

DENVERDUI55
08-17-2011, 09:25 AM
Eh. I'm more arguing with production in this case... or the lack thereof while you cling to his measurables and literally nothing else.

But congratulations. A first round pick on a "physical freak" who netted 800 yards in the Big ****ing East is QUITE the accomplishment!

:thumbsup:

Funny how they compare him to fitz who had garbage qb too but produced. Yeah he was questioned on his speed too for pro game.

TheReverend
08-17-2011, 09:35 AM
Funny how they compare him to fitz who had garbage qb too but produced. Yeah he was questioned on his speed too for pro game.

Most of these guys have god awful QBs, yet some how produce like crazy.

FFS, Megatron's QB was Reggie ****ing Ball! Dude threw for 1800 yards, but that didn't stop CJ from getting over 1200 and 15 TDs.

Can Baldwin develop? Sure. And Haley's a guy that can really help with that.

But it was an upside pick all the way. Kid looks great. Just can't play football.

Kaylore
08-17-2011, 09:42 AM
No, idiot.

Ballin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgEYUZaUItk

Making catches and going down to first contact 90% of the time:

It IS Ashley Lelie!!!

Bob's your Information Minister
08-17-2011, 09:54 AM
It IS Ashley Lelie!!!

Yeah, let's compare a 6-3, 190 lb stick to a 6-5, 230 lb beast...

DENVERDUI55
08-17-2011, 09:57 AM
It IS Ashley Lelie!!!

I was thinking more of dwayne garret/mike Williams mold.

KCStud
08-17-2011, 02:02 PM
Most of these guys have god awful QBs, yet some how produce like crazy.

FFS, Megatron's QB was Reggie ****ing Ball! Dude threw for 1800 yards, but that didn't stop CJ from getting over 1200 and 15 TDs.

Can Baldwin develop? Sure. And Haley's a guy that can really help with that.

But it was an upside pick all the way. Kid looks great. Just can't play football.

I think Haley will bring the best out of him. Haley's success with WR's speaks for itself.

DENVERDUI55
08-17-2011, 04:12 PM
I think Haley will bring the best out of him. Haley's success with WR's speaks for itself.

Let me guess your going to say he was responsible for Arizona's Boldin/Fitz success with a borderline hall of fame QB?

KCStud
08-17-2011, 09:23 PM
Let me guess your going to say he was responsible for Arizona's Boldin/Fitz success with a borderline hall of fame QB?

Larry Fitzgerald is an elite receiver whether Kurt Warner is his QB or not.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-19-2011, 09:57 AM
And now the rumor that Baldwin hurt his wrist in a scuffle with Thomas Jones and will miss the rest of the preseason. (per Nick Wright)

Hard to climb that depth chart if you're getting hurt in a slap fight with an old man.

TheReverend
08-19-2011, 09:59 AM
And now the rumor that Baldwin hurt his wrist in a scuffle with Thomas Jones and will miss the rest of the preseason. (per Nick Wright)

Hard to climb that depth chart if you're getting hurt in a slap fight with an old man.

"Physical freak" Ha!

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-19-2011, 10:03 AM
And even before that:

Jonathan Baldwin hasn't practiced with the Chiefs since Wednesday, and Nick Wright of 610 Kansas City tweeted Thursday that he's "hearing bad things" about the rookie's mysterious absence.
Wright admits he's still working to confirm on whatever information he has on Baldwin. Wright does insist Baldwin's absence is "NOT injury related." The 26th overall pick in the draft, Baldwin has made zero headway on the Chiefs' receiver depth chart since training camp began. He's ticketed for a backup role.

Flex Gunmetal
08-19-2011, 10:04 AM
And even before that:

Jonathan Baldwin hasn't practiced with the Chiefs since Wednesday, and Nick Wright of 610 Kansas City tweeted Thursday that he's "hearing bad things" about the rookie's mysterious absence.
Wright admits he's still working to confirm on whatever information he has on Baldwin. Wright does insist Baldwin's absence is "NOT injury related." The 26th overall pick in the draft, Baldwin has made zero headway on the Chiefs' receiver depth chart since training camp began. He's ticketed for a backup role.

http://i.imgur.com/bO5CK.gif

TheReverend
08-19-2011, 10:06 AM
Who knew you couldn't count on a Pitt WR that can't catch a football?

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-19-2011, 10:07 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/19/report-jonathan-baldwin-hurts-wrist-in-locker-room-fight/related/

Grumps
08-19-2011, 10:08 AM
Per Rotoworld:

Nick Wright of 610 Kansas City reports that rookie Jonathan Baldwin is likely done for the preseason after injuring his wrist in a locker-room brawl with running back Thomas Jones.
Well, this won't help Baldwin move up the depth chart or endear him to teammates. Jones has always been a locker-room favorite. A Chiefs source tells Wright that Baldwin, "is as advertised. Diva, spoiled, doesn't wanna listen. Can run a Go and a Slant, and doesn't wanna work." Baldwin reportedly refused to learn how to beat press coverage before the injury. He's safe to leave off fantasy draft boards. Dwayne Bowe, Jerheme Urban, and Steve Breaston will open the year as Kansas City's top three receivers


:spit:

gyldenlove
08-19-2011, 10:11 AM
Per Rotoworld:

Nick Wright of 610 Kansas City reports that rookie Jonathan Baldwin is likely done for the preseason after injuring his wrist in a locker-room brawl with running back Thomas Jones.
Well, this won't help Baldwin move up the depth chart or endear him to teammates. Jones has always been a locker-room favorite. A Chiefs source tells Wright that Baldwin, "is as advertised. Diva, spoiled, doesn't wanna listen. Can run a Go and a Slant, and doesn't wanna work." Baldwin reportedly refused to learn how to beat press coverage before the injury. He's safe to leave off fantasy draft boards. Dwayne Bowe, Jerheme Urban, and Steve Breaston will open the year as Kansas City's top three receivers


:spit:

Well color me surprised - not.

Good luck with this one Chiefs, you are going to need it.

SoDak Bronco
08-19-2011, 10:13 AM
Report: Jonathan Baldwin hurts wrist in locker room fight (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/19/report-jonathan-baldwin-hurts-wrist-in-locker-room-fight/)

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 19, 2011, 1:05 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/j-baldwinhaley.jpg?w=144 AP Chiefs first round wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6431/jonathan-baldwin) was mysteriously missing from Chiefs practice on Wednesday.
A radio report in Kansas City hinted there may be more to the story, but we passed on mentioning it until more information came out. Well, it’s out now. If Nick Wright of 610 radio in Kansas City is right, the story is a doozy.
Wright reports that Baldwin will likely miss the rest of the preseason (http://twitter.com/#!/getnickwright/status/104583615618363392) after injuring his wrist during a locker room scuffle with teammate Thomas Jones (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2408/thomas-jones). Baldwin’s work ethic has reportedly been an issue.
“He’s as advertised (http://twitter.com/#!/getnickwright/status/104583615618363392),” a source tells Wright. “Diva, spoiled, doesn’t wanna listen. Can run a Go and a Slant, and doesn’t wanna work.”
The Chiefs flew to Baltimore on Thursday in preparation for Friday’s preseason game. The team hasn’t said whether Baldwin was on the flight with them.
Baldwin was already struggling (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/15/jonathan-baldwin-off-to-slow-start-with-chiefs/) in Chiefs camp before this news came out. He looks unlikely to play much early in the year.

SoDak Bronco
08-19-2011, 10:14 AM
Bahaha what a POS. Glad they jumped all over that "talent".

TheReverend
08-19-2011, 10:15 AM
Bears repeating:

Between Bowe, Breaston and Urban they should be fine.

But Baldwin was always an extremely ****ty pick.

Steve Sewell
08-19-2011, 10:18 AM
Haha the curse of Bob strikes again.

DarkHorse
08-19-2011, 10:23 AM
Very entertaining pick so far.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-19-2011, 10:35 AM
**** me

TheReverend
08-19-2011, 10:37 AM
**** me

"I'll take 'Things You'll Never Hear a Woman Say' For $1000, Alex"

Steve Sewell
08-19-2011, 10:41 AM
**** me

If you would stop anointing players, your Chiefs might win something once in awhile.

One thing to remember Bobo...everyone in the NFL is a "beast"...there's a reason some perform better than others, and most of it is mental.

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-19-2011, 10:45 AM
I'm just thankful my Mavs survived the Bob Jinx long enough to pull off winning the title.

yerner
08-19-2011, 11:02 AM
that's awesome.

LetsGoBroncos
08-19-2011, 11:02 AM
"I'll take 'Things You'll Never Hear a Woman Say' For $1000, Alex"

Gold

KCStud
08-19-2011, 11:14 AM
Welll Mr. Baldwin, you're gonna get some pretty hard treatment (see Dwyane Bowe 2009). Get ready to go through hell. It's a great thing we have Breaston who is a solid #2 receiver already.

On a side note, I think Thomas Jones would be one of the last people on our team anyone would want to fight.

DaFace
08-19-2011, 11:18 AM
No way of spinning this one. If it's true, dude's a complete and utter dumbass of epic proportions.

PRBronco
08-19-2011, 11:21 AM
Welll Mr. Baldwin, you're gonna get some pretty hard treatment (see Dwyane Bowe 2009). Get ready to go through hell. It's a great thing we have Breaston who is a solid #2 receiver already.

On a side note, I think Thomas Jones would be one of the last people on our team anyone would want to fight.

That's what i took away from it too. He's lucky he only hurt his wrist.

I only have one rule: don't fight people who neck tattoos and cut six packs.

Ray Finkle
08-19-2011, 11:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
**** me
"I'll take 'Things You'll Never Hear a Woman Say' For $1000, Alex"

playing on that....

"Things Bob says to the Tranny on the corner For $800, Alex"

broncocalijohn
08-19-2011, 11:35 AM
No way of spinning this one. If it's true, dude's a complete and utter dumbass of epic proportions.

Well, we havent seen KCStud come in. Are there any bets he tells us no big deal as he was a 4th string Wide receiver anyways?

Edit: meant our other KC fan (with the car). KCStud did roll in.

McDman
08-19-2011, 11:48 AM
**** me

If Bob was MacGruder he'd make up a story about this so he didn't look wrong.

Stagger Lee
08-19-2011, 11:51 AM
"I'll take 'Things You'll Never Hear a Woman Say' For $1000, Alex"

Fact.LOL