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broncs2bowl
08-13-2011, 10:53 AM
Is it just me or does Virgil Green seem like a receiver? I feel like he could be a big dominant possession receiver kind of guy, he's pretty fast right?

tsiguy96
08-13-2011, 10:56 AM
think he may be a PS guy, no idea how he makes hte team. team is relatively deep at TE and WR.

TheReverend
08-13-2011, 10:58 AM
Is it just me or does Virgil Green seem like a receiver? I feel like he could be a big dominant possession receiver kind of guy, he's pretty fast right?

4.54

Blazing fast for a TE. Hope he sticks.

Cito Pelon
08-13-2011, 11:10 AM
think he may be a PS guy, no idea how he makes hte team. team is relatively deep at TE and WR.

Hard to say right now. The team sure has a bunch of TE's competing, and at least one of them has to be a blocking specialist. They spent money on Rosario as Fox's guy (and Fells), drafted Julius ahead of Green. I guess we have to wait and see. Gronk got a pass thrown to him that he didn't catch, so they're all getting some looks. There's a couple TE's that will be cut, maybe he does make the PS since he's a rookie.

Baba Booey
08-13-2011, 11:20 AM
He's got potential, that's for sure. I hope they at least stick him on the PS.

broncs2bowl
08-13-2011, 12:08 PM
I kind of meant take him away from TE and put him out wide as a WR, I am pretty confident Julius Thomas can take on the receiving TE role without too much trouble.

broncs2bowl
08-13-2011, 12:21 PM
Virgil Green:

HEIGHT
6'3⅜"
WEIGHT
249 lbs
ARM LENGTH
33.4"
HAND SIZE
9.199"

40-Yard Dash
4.54
3-Cone Drill
6.90
20-Yard Shuttle
4.40
Bench Press
23.0
Vertical Jump
42.5
Broad Jump
130.0


Brandon Marshall:

Height
6-4
Weight
230
40 time
4.55
Broad
10 ft
vertical
37

Cito Pelon
08-13-2011, 01:13 PM
I kind of meant take him away from TE and put him out wide as a WR, I am pretty confident Julius Thomas can take on the receiving TE role without too much trouble.

Well, I don't quite see that.

tsiguy96
08-13-2011, 02:00 PM
Well, I don't quite see that.

not just that, he might not be a top 5 WR on this team right now.

lloyd, royal, decker, willis, anderson

CEH
08-13-2011, 02:03 PM
sounds like Denver does not think he will clear waivers.
Most likely Denver will keep 4 TE and deactivate him every game

UberBroncoMan
08-13-2011, 02:17 PM
not just that, he might not be a top 5 WR on this team right now.

lloyd, royal, decker, willis, anderson

The Anderson signing still makes me curious due to our TE's potential to shift to WR and our scheme's lack of 4-5 receiver packages.

Ray Finkle
08-13-2011, 02:21 PM
Virgil Green:

HEIGHT
6'3⅜"
WEIGHT
249 lbs
ARM LENGTH
33.4"
HAND SIZE
9.199"

40-Yard Dash
4.54
3-Cone Drill
6.90
20-Yard Shuttle
4.40
Bench Press
23.0
Vertical Jump
42.5
Broad Jump
130.0


Brandon Marshall:

Height
6-4
Weight
230
40 time
4.55
Broad
10 ft
vertical
37

What's Virgil's time for being stabbed by a girlfriend or flying hand first through a TV?

tsiguy96
08-13-2011, 02:22 PM
The Anderson signing still makes me curious due to our TE's potential to shift to WR and our scheme's lack of 4-5 receiver packages.

true, but anderson upgraded the roster compared to having someone else at #5, hell he might even be the #4 guy with willis at 5. i doubt fox will split any of the WR out wide, did he do that in carolina? fox seems like a guy that his TE need to be able to block first and foremost.

TheReverend
08-13-2011, 02:29 PM
The Anderson signing still makes me curious due to our TE's potential to shift to WR and our scheme's lack of 4-5 receiver packages.

A lot of guys can be amazing athletes and then become absolutely worthless the second pads and a helmet come on.

Drek
08-13-2011, 02:33 PM
The Anderson signing still makes me curious due to our TE's potential to shift to WR and our scheme's lack of 4-5 receiver packages.

Backup slot guy for Royal, and if you think McCoy isn't going to use the one really good thing McDaniels brought to Denver (an intricate and incredibly successful passing scheme) you're crazy.

We aren't going to just run with 2 WRs all the time and go run, run, pass. McCoy is going to use a run first attack but when we do pass it won't be the boring ass **** they used in Carolina. It'll be much more like McDaniels' scheme and will probably take a lot of shots down field to Lloyd.

A powerful running game paired with a game breaking passing attack is a recipe for success if we can get our defense up to or above league average.

razorwire77
08-13-2011, 02:34 PM
A lot of these borderline players 4th TE, 6th WR etc., will make the team or get cut based on their abilities to play special teams.

Virgil Green has a lot of raw athletic ability and upside, so I doubt he would clear waivers. I'm betting that we keep 4 TE's on the roster.

Cito Pelon
08-13-2011, 02:39 PM
The Anderson signing still makes me curious due to our TE's potential to shift to WR and our scheme's lack of 4-5 receiver packages.

Anderson is one of those smart guys that finds the seam in the zone, much like Rod Smith used to do. Decker may be that kind of WR also, a WR that adjusts his route to the open area and that's a QB's best friend.

Tombstone RJ
08-13-2011, 02:51 PM
With DThomas being injured, it's interesting to perhaps move Green to WR. Make Green lose some weight and move him to WR and see what happens...

Agamemnon
08-13-2011, 02:59 PM
While Virgil Green may look like he could play WR because of his speed you've got to keep in mind that he may not have the fluidity and route-running to make it work. All the same he's a nightmare of a mismatch for any DB and virtually no LBs could keep up with him. So it might work. He'd likely be the biggest WR in the league if they did transition him, which would be interesting to see.

At least his terrible blocking would no longer be a big deal...

Agamemnon
08-13-2011, 03:03 PM
With DThomas being injured, it's interesting to perhaps move Green to WR. Make Green lose some weight and move him to WR and see what happens...

Why would you make him lose weight? He's fast enough for a possession receiver right now, and what would make him stand out as a WR is his speed/size combination.

Tombstone RJ
08-13-2011, 03:05 PM
Why would you make him lose weight? He's fast enough for a possession receiver right now, and what would make him stand out as a WR is his speed/size combination.

If he loses some weight it will take some pressure off his joints, like his knees and ankles, etc. It will also help him increase his speed and his ability to break on routes, etc. He doesn't need to be a 250lbs WR. I'd rather he be a 230lbs WR who has breakaway speed and can turn on a dime.

BroncoMan4ever
08-13-2011, 10:50 PM
Is it just me or does Virgil Green seem like a receiver? I feel like he could be a big dominant possession receiver kind of guy, he's pretty fast right?

i have said that since Thomas started tearing it up in camp. he is bigger than both Thomas is and Marshall was with the same speed, a better vertical and good hands. work on his route running and he is a potential beast at WR

Mogulseeker
08-13-2011, 10:52 PM
Hard to say right now. The team sure has a bunch of TE's competing, and at least one of them has to be a blocking specialist. They spent money on Rosario as Fox's guy (and Fells), drafted Julius ahead of Green. I guess we have to wait and see. Gronk got a pass thrown to him that he didn't catch, so they're all getting some looks. There's a couple TE's that will be cut, maybe he does make the PS since he's a rookie.

Gronk has been dropping them all through camp too. How he and Nate Jones are still on the team are beyond me.

Hamrob
08-14-2011, 10:39 AM
He's a TE and will be a very good one. That's my prediction.

I think we keep:

Fells
Quinn
Thomas
Green

I think Gront and Rosario are gone. You would take a chance with Green clearing waivers and he'll be cheaper than Rosario. Fells and Quinn will be the blocking TE's and Thomas and Green the receiving TE's.

Doggcow
08-14-2011, 02:38 PM
Since when are Tight Ends NOT receivers? Well other than Stone Hands Graham?

BroncoMan4ever
08-14-2011, 11:05 PM
He's a TE and will be a very good one. That's my prediction.

I think we keep:

Fells
Quinn
Thomas
Green

I think Gront and Rosario are gone. You would take a chance with Green clearing waivers and he'll be cheaper than Rosario. Fells and Quinn will be the blocking TE's and Thomas and Green the receiving TE's.

no way is Rosario cut. he is a Fox guy and he is on a very friendly team deal. it is something like 685,000 for this year to keep him. Quinn and Gronkowski are probably the odd men out.

i think the plan originally with Green or Thomas when drafted was that whichever of them needed more time to adjust to the NFL would go onto the PS, but even though Thomas has adjusted quicker, Green has still gotten some notice and with his measurables there is no way he would clear waivers. i say he makes the 53 man roster but is inactive a lot.

Requiem
08-15-2011, 08:33 AM
Can teams still sign away players from Practice Quads?

If so, I wouldn't put Green on there. I'd keep Rosario, Thomas, Green. Maybe Quinn or Fells sticks as a fourth, but I cannot see us doing that. He has too much ability to be taken away from us. Lets give ourselves options at the position for the future, not limit them.

Br0nc0Buster
08-15-2011, 08:57 AM
Can teams still sign away players from Practice Quads?

If so, I wouldn't put Green on there. I'd keep Rosario, Thomas, Green. Maybe Quinn or Fells sticks as a fourth, but I cannot see us doing that. He has too much ability to be taken away from us. Lets give ourselves options at the position for the future, not limit them.

Im assuming they can
Fells right now is prolly out best TE for our offense, he was running with the 1s and did a good job on Thursday
I say he and Thomas are locks, with Green as a near lock
last spot has to be between Rosario and Quinn, although with Quinn being hurt I dont know

alkemical
08-15-2011, 09:11 AM
I think Quinn could be cut.

bendog
08-15-2011, 09:17 AM
I think Quinn could be cut.

Literally. (ah, it's not his fault mcd reached)

Mediator12
08-15-2011, 09:22 AM
None of our TE's can block, and Virgil green is almost as bad as Julius thomas. Quinn may have more value than people around here think.

BTW, the TE play in the DAL game was so bad I would think none of those guys have ever played tackle football.

alkemical
08-15-2011, 09:24 AM
None of our TE's can block, and Virgil green is almost as bad as Julius thomas. Quinn may have more value than people around here think.

BTW, the TE play in the DAL game was so bad I would think none of those guys have ever played tackle football.

Who would be on your list to get cut from the team?

Mediator12
08-15-2011, 09:33 AM
Who would be on your list to get cut from the team?

I have no idea. All I can say is that no TE who played got a keeper grade, even for a Preseason game. My notes say: "Does DEN even have a legit TE on the roster? He did not play tonight!"

alkemical
08-15-2011, 09:34 AM
I have no idea. All I can say is that no TE who played got a keeper grade, even for a Preseason game. My notes say: "Does DEN even have a legit TE on the roster? He did not play tonight!"

Does it look better or worse after a few beers?

Mediator12
08-15-2011, 09:39 AM
Does it look better or worse after a few beers?

"Hey, I resemble that remark!" ;D

I was really concerned with TE coming into camp, but all the glowing reports of the TE's made me feel better. However, it seems they were simply in the pass catching against air variety and when the lights came on, they looked dazed and unable to execute simple blocking assignments or run routes. I think this will be an issue unless they improve dramatically between now and the first game.

alkemical
08-15-2011, 09:40 AM
"Hey, I resemble that remark!" ;D

I was really concerned with TE coming into camp, but all the glowing reports of the TE's made me feel better. However, it seems they were simply in the pass catching against air variety and when the lights came on, they looked dazed and unable to execute simple blocking assignments or run routes. I think this will be an issue unless they improve dramatically between now and the first game.

LOL! I was looking at how much I needed to buy for football season! ROFL!

Maybe the philosophy is: "We draft guys who can make plays, and teach 'em to block later". :shrugs:

Just seems like a long year again for Broncos ball.

Mediator12
08-15-2011, 09:44 AM
LOL! I was looking at how much I needed to buy for football season! ROFL!

Maybe the philosophy is: "We draft guys who can make plays, and teach 'em to block later". :shrugs:

Just seems like a long year again for Broncos ball.

Nah, in the great scheme of things, that is probably the best position on offense to be weak, as you can scheme it more than NEED playmakers. However, it will restrict the matchups you want to create in the passing game if the TE can not pass protect or run block.