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Williams
07-27-2011, 07:26 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/27/broncos-bidding-for-brandon-mebane/

Perhaps the best under the radar defensive tackle available in this year’s free agent agent class is getting attention from the team most desperate for defensive tackles.

Brandon Mebane and the Broncos are involved in “serious” negotiations, according to Mike Klis of the Denver Post. The Seahawks are also trying to keep Mebane, and ESPN reported that the Saints could be interested.

We think Mebane will get a surprisingly big contract. There just aren’t many quality young defensive linemen and the Broncos desperately need run-stuffing help.
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Hopefully we can pull it off.... this would be another great move for Elway/Fox/Xanders.

BroncoDoug
07-27-2011, 07:27 PM
yeah, like many have said before anyone with a DT in the POS column will be a happy addition for me

mwill07
07-27-2011, 07:27 PM
pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

Cmac821
07-27-2011, 07:27 PM
How much is this going to cost the team is what worries me

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 07:30 PM
I'd like to punch Klis in the ****ing mouth.

Thanks for the 12 hours old "breaking news" you ****ing douche.

(I know you're reading this)

WolfpackGuy
07-27-2011, 07:32 PM
It's gonna be a whip out the ham sammich contest.

OrangeSe7en
07-27-2011, 07:32 PM
How much is this going to cost the team is what worries me

How much does it cost the team when they go 3-13?

StugotsIII
07-27-2011, 07:32 PM
Can someone breakdown Mebane's game?


I know nothing about him other than he's a DT from Seattle.


People are acting like he's the 2nd coming of Warren Sapp or something….

bowtown
07-27-2011, 07:34 PM
Since when is Mebane under the radar?

Ratboy
07-27-2011, 07:34 PM
I would love to see the Broncos resign Marcus Thomas and get Brandon Mebane.

FireFly
07-27-2011, 07:35 PM
How much is this going to cost the team is what worries me

We need a DT and we're going to pay BIG for it. I'm worried about it as well and when we sign him people will be psyched but I hope that his contract isn't so ridiculous that it prevents us from signing other key positions.

But, still, if we're going to over spend on a player it better be a DT! :strong:

Bigdawg26
07-27-2011, 07:35 PM
According to Rotoworld, the Seahawks are talking to Jimmy Wilkerson and spent alot of money on sidney rice and robert gallery. So I hope that's good news that the broncos have the upper hand to sign Mebane!

FireFly
07-27-2011, 07:37 PM
Can someone breakdown Mebane's game?


I know nothing about him other than he's a DT from Seattle.


People are acting like he's the 2nd coming of Warren Sapp or something….

I was under the impression that he was more of a run stuffer than a penetrating DT

broncosteven
07-27-2011, 07:37 PM
I'd like to punch Klis in the ****ing mouth.

Thanks for the 12 hours old "breaking news" you ****ing douche.

(I know you're reading this)

He did get on NFLN today, it would have been cool if Kahn had got him to hold his new Video card so I could see it and OK it for his newly built PC.

That way he would have accomplished something of value today.

OrangeSe7en
07-27-2011, 07:37 PM
I'd like to punch Klis in the ****ing mouth.

Thanks for the 12 hours old "breaking news" you ****ing douche.

(I know you're reading this)

There's already a line.

TD30
07-27-2011, 07:37 PM
Alfred Williams said the guy is average and stink agreed with him said we'd be better off with bannon and another cheap run stopper. They seem to think he is definitely not worth the money it would take to lure him away. I guess when you have garbage average looks good

snowspot66
07-27-2011, 07:40 PM
I was under the impression that he was more of a run stuffer than a penetrating DT

Regardless of his play style he's done enough to be considered a talented young player. You also have to consider that at only four years into his career he's just now about to enter the prime of his career. It's entirely possible he will continue to improve. I'm willing to over pay a bit for that.

broncosteven
07-27-2011, 07:40 PM
Can someone breakdown Mebane's game?


I know nothing about him other than he's a DT from Seattle.


People are acting like he's the 2nd coming of Warren Sapp or something….

He is going to go all HAM for us if we sign him.

Unless it is for a big payday in which case he will go all Tommie Harris for us.

mwill07
07-27-2011, 07:41 PM
Alfred Williams said the guy is average and stink agreed with him said we'd be better off with bannon and another cheap run stopper. They seem to think he is definitely not worth the money it would take to lure him away. I guess when you have garbage average looks good

I wish we could have an average DL...

I also wish we could end the turn-style DT position it's been since when...well, ever, I suppose. IMO Mebane, if he's even average, could become the cornerstone of a multi-year average line, and at this point, I'm ok with that.

Tim
07-27-2011, 07:42 PM
Alfred Williams said the guy is average and stink agreed with him said we'd be better off with bannon and another cheap run stopper. They seem to think he is definitely not worth the money it would take to lure him away. I guess when you have garbage average looks good

I heard that too and disagree, he is a above average dt in his prime. Heres a old video of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKue90I5_0Y&feature=related

GoBroncos84
07-27-2011, 07:56 PM
Can someone breakdown Mebane's game?


I know nothing about him other than he's a DT from Seattle.


People are acting like he's the 2nd coming of Warren Sapp or something….

ESPN:

Grade 83 (80-89=Outstanding Player)

Expert's Take:
Mebane has been a productive starter on the interior of the defensive line. He has a short, wide body and good initial quickness, agility and body control. He is quick to read blocking schemes and locate the ball and knows how to squeeze the play down. He has just enough girth to hunker down and clog things up on the inside but is more effective on the move and penetrating to create problems in the backfield. He knows how to use his hands to defeat and shed blockers and does not generally stay blocked for long. He fights pressure but lacks the overall bulk and strength to fight through double teams.

He is an elite run defender, I really hope we sign him. He generates a decent pass rush, but in this defense it will be Doom, Ayers, and Von getting most of the pressure. We need run stoppers. He is perfect for us, and would allow those other guys to thrive.

bowtown
07-27-2011, 07:59 PM
Alfred Williams said the guy is average and stink agreed with him said we'd be better off with bannon and another cheap run stopper. They seem to think he is definitely not worth the money it would take to lure him away. I guess when you have garbage average looks good

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HAT
07-27-2011, 08:01 PM
How much is this going to cost the team is what worries me

Bowlen owe you money bro?

ant1999e
07-27-2011, 08:02 PM
http://blog.pumapac.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/thatsracist.gif

I think this is in the wrong thread.

Archer81
07-27-2011, 08:04 PM
The team needs defensive tackles. Mebane is a defenisve tackle. Therefore, the Broncos need Brandon Mebane.

Its logic.

:Broncos:

GoBroncos84
07-27-2011, 08:05 PM
How much is this going to cost the team is what worries me

Barry Cofield signed for 6 years/$36 million/$12.5 million guaranteed. I would imagine the contract would be around that figure, as Cofield and Mebane are around the same age (26,27) and are widely considered the top 2 DTs available in this free agent class. Cullen Jenkins is also in that discussion, but he is 30 and has injury concerns. Getting Mebane as he is entering his prime would be well worth that contract, IMO

wolf754life
07-27-2011, 08:06 PM
everyone that is good is getting paid, don't worry about the cost, we have to spend the scrill

TD30
07-27-2011, 08:08 PM
I heard that too and disagree, he is a above average dt in his prime. Heres a old video of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKue90I5_0Y&feature=related

he definitely looks like an upgrade

cmhargrove
07-27-2011, 08:09 PM
Barry Cofield signed for 6 years/$36 million/$12.5 million guaranteed. I would imagine the contract would be around that figure, as Cofield and Mebane are around the same age (26,27) and are widely considered the top 2 DTs available in this free agent class. Cullen Jenkins is also in that discussion, but he is 30 and has injury concerns. Getting Mebane as he is entering his prime would be well worth that contract, IMO

That's a hell of a lot better than Charles Johnson for 72 mil.

TD30
07-27-2011, 08:09 PM
I think this is in the wrong thread.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that didn't get that

ant1999e
07-27-2011, 08:12 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one that didn't get that

It would make sense in the HAM thread.

elsid13
07-27-2011, 08:12 PM
i think that we are going to overpaying for average starting DT in the NFL. We should have gone after one in the draft.

bowtown
07-27-2011, 08:12 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one that didn't get that

Don't know how much clearer I can make it.

Mebane = Black

Bannan and another cheap run stopper = White

Alfred Williams and Stink = Racist

DBroncos4life
07-27-2011, 08:12 PM
he definitely looks like an upgrade

I think a fat head of Warren Sapp would be a upgrade.

ant1999e
07-27-2011, 08:14 PM
Don't know how much clearer I can make it.

Mebane = Black

Bannan and another cheap run stopper = White

Alfred Williams and Stink = Racist

that's like calculus.

mkporter
07-27-2011, 08:17 PM
Barry Cofield signed for 6 years/$36 million/$12.5 million guaranteed. I would imagine the contract would be around that figure, as Cofield and Mebane are around the same age (26,27) and are widely considered the top 2 DTs available in this free agent class. Cullen Jenkins is also in that discussion, but he is 30 and has injury concerns. Getting Mebane as he is entering his prime would be well worth that contract, IMO

I'm thinking Mebane goes for more than Cofield. more like the 6yr/45m 20m guaranteed. Still worth it IMO.

SoCalBronco
07-27-2011, 08:19 PM
This is what I'm hoping for. I'm glad we lost the bidding for DeAngelo Williams. More money for DT.

GoBroncos84
07-27-2011, 08:19 PM
I'm thinking Mebane goes for more than Cofield. more like the 6yr/45m 20m guaranteed. Still worth it IMO.

Yeah, I would still do that in a heartbeat

TD30
07-27-2011, 08:21 PM
that's like calculus.

I gotta go back to the urban dictionary

Broncoman13
07-27-2011, 08:33 PM
I'm thinking Mebane goes for more than Cofield. more like the 6yr/45m 20m guaranteed. Still worth it IMO.

DeAngelo Williams was pretty easy to guess what the contract would be to stay in Carolina. I have no idea what Mebane will get, but 6/$45m would be pretty good, imo. 7.5m per season is okay with me.

I also think we should get Ronnie Brown signed. I know he has had a lot of injuries, but put him in a more traditional running scheme as the ZBS has become and he will put up very good numbers. If he can be had in the 4/$20m range, do it!

McDman
07-27-2011, 08:38 PM
If we sign him I'll pop a Mebone!

*cue the drums*

ward63
07-27-2011, 09:04 PM
Mebane and Bernard would be a great ex-tandem to get back together

RhymesayersDU
07-27-2011, 09:09 PM
If we sign him I'll pop a Mebone!

*cue the drums*

Oh man, for us to have Tebowners AND Meboners.... Well man, that'd be just swell.

theAPAOps5
07-27-2011, 09:13 PM
Don't know how much clearer I can make it.

Mebane = Black

Bannan and another cheap run stopper = White

Alfred Williams and Stink = Racist

Yeah that racist comment failed and not because it wasn't clear..... :kiss:

Captain 'Dre
07-27-2011, 09:13 PM
I'd like to punch Klis in the ****ing mouth.

Thanks for the 12 hours old "breaking news" you ****ing douche.

(I know you're reading this)

Spoken like a true Reverend! Ha!

Dagmar
07-27-2011, 09:34 PM
Oh man, for us to have Tebowners AND Meboners.... Well man, that'd be just swell.

LOL:strong::yayaya:

broncos-rock
07-27-2011, 09:49 PM
Daniel Muir - DL - Colts
Free agent DT Daniel Muir is reportedly drawing interest from the Broncos and Rams.
Not exactly consolation for losing out on Brandon Mebane. The Broncos are interested in seemingly every defensive tackle available, so their inclusion is no surprise. Muir is more of a rotational tackle than starter-caliber.


Maybe just a typo or something?

SoCalBronco
07-27-2011, 09:55 PM
Daniel Muir - DL - Colts
Free agent DT Daniel Muir is reportedly drawing interest from the Broncos and Rams.
Not exactly consolation for losing out on Brandon Mebane. The Broncos are interested in seemingly every defensive tackle available, so their inclusion is no surprise. Muir is more of a rotational tackle than starter-caliber.


Maybe just a typo or something?

I really hope that's not true.

Gutless Drunk
07-27-2011, 09:58 PM
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snowspot66
07-27-2011, 10:00 PM
Ah so it's a Rams source. I feel better now.

cutthemdown
07-27-2011, 10:01 PM
Not that any player in FA a savoir but it would be cool to snag at least one of the DT. At least we are trying then. No way we can play with the ones on the roster.

Mediator12
07-27-2011, 10:01 PM
I really hope that's not true.

Muir is OK, INDY wants to keep Antonio Johnson IMHO.

Let's put it this way, Muir is a steady backup DT that can start in a pinch. Not a starter caliber player, but as good as anything on the roster currently ;D

epicSocialism4tw
07-27-2011, 10:03 PM
We should target Mebane and Tommie Harris.

Tommie Harris could be had for relatively cheap and could have dominant spells during the season. Tommie Harris is a typical third down DT who can get upfield and can also play two ways as well. Vickerson fits in as a guy who can step in and play when needed. Re-sign Thomas and call it an offseason on the defensive line.

snowspot66
07-27-2011, 10:04 PM
Harris is done for. He's down to the rims.

Mediator12
07-27-2011, 10:04 PM
We should target Mebane and Tommie Harris.

Tommie Harris could be had for relatively cheap and could have dominant spells during the season. Tommie Harris is a typical third down DT who can get upfield and can also play two ways as well. Vickerson fits in as a guy who can step in and play when needed. Re-sign Thomas and call it an offseason on the defensive line.

Harris has never been the same after the injury. Not even close. There is a reason he is not being highly sought after in FA. Rather have Starks and Mebane taking the DT money.

SoCalBronco
07-27-2011, 10:07 PM
Muir is OK, INDY wants to keep Antonio Johnson IMHO.

Let's put it this way, Muir is a steady backup DT that can start in a pinch. Not a starter caliber player, but as good as anything on the roster currently ;D

Med, we just traded for some rotational depth. We need to get some quality starting DT's, already. I'm sure they're dragging the old man into it kicking and screaming but he simply has to accept that they have to spend some real money at the position (and in general). No more dicking around on the periphery with "rotational" players. We need a real ****ing DT.

epicSocialism4tw
07-27-2011, 10:12 PM
Harris has never been the same after the injury. Not even close. There is a reason he is not being highly sought after in FA. Rather have Starks and Mebane taking the DT money.

I'd rather have Starks as well, but I'm just too cynical to believe it.

I'd rather have Harris than anything on our roster currently.

Carmelo15
07-27-2011, 10:14 PM
Mebane92 Brandon Mebane
"Got on ma suede shoes...Im in a great mood" #RickRoss
1 hour ago

Sounds like someone who just got paid. Hopefully by the Broncos!

Mediator12
07-27-2011, 10:16 PM
Med, we just traded for some rotational depth. We need to get some quality starting DT's, already. I'm sure they're dragging the old man into it kicking and screaming but he simply has to accept that they have to spend some real money at the position (and in general). No more dicking around on the periphery with "rotational" players. We need a real ****ing DT.

Nah, let's just get Mario Fatefehi and Darius Holland back on the horn and reinstall that 3rd ranked run "D" from 2003 ;D Who the hell needs real DL, oh Wait, crap, WE DO!

ChrisToker
07-27-2011, 10:18 PM
DeAngelo Williams was pretty easy to guess what the contract would be to stay in Carolina. I have no idea what Mebane will get, but 6/$45m would be pretty good, imo. 7.5m per season is okay with me.

I also think we should get Ronnie Brown signed. I know he has had a lot of injuries, but put him in a more traditional running scheme as the ZBS has become and he will put up very good numbers. If he can be had in the 4/$20m range, do it!

Ricky Williams would be in the 4:20 range :)

Boomhauer
07-27-2011, 10:18 PM
Daniel Muir - DL - Colts
Free agent DT Daniel Muir is reportedly drawing interest from the Broncos and Rams.
Not exactly consolation for losing out on Brandon Mebane. The Broncos are interested in seemingly every defensive tackle available, so their inclusion is no surprise. Muir is more of a rotational tackle than starter-caliber.

I'm all for bringing in Muir - 6'2" 310lbs. He's a solid UT with great lateral agility or could rotate in as DT on passing downs. In comparison; I'd call him a 'more rush, less anchor' version of Vickerson with equally high football awareness.

strafen
07-27-2011, 10:21 PM
Mebane represents the blue chip of the broncos FO. That's the guy they should be getting...

epicSocialism4tw
07-27-2011, 10:21 PM
Nah, let's just get Mario Fatefehi and Darius Holland back on the horn and reinstall that 3rd ranked run "D" from 2003 ;D Who the hell needs real DL, oh Wait, crap, WE DO!

Elway and Fox have mentioned bringing back the Orange Crush.

I think that the mindset is here to go after and secure the talent that is needed to make this a competitive defense. Drafting Miller and Moore was a good start.

Now they need to come through for the team during what could be the biggest free agent free-for-all in NFL history.

On Thursday, all sorts of solid rotational players are going to hit the open market. The odds are pretty good that Denver will get a shot to secure other players at positions of need who can fill gaps.

This probably isnt the best time to have a green front office...other GM's will be trying to take them to the woodshed. Unfortunately, Elway has to hold strong and make his acumen show or else he'll get a rep as a dupe.

broncos-rock
07-27-2011, 10:23 PM
Sounds like someone who just got paid. Hopefully by the Broncos!

i like how someone tweeted that Elvis(Doom):strong: wears blue suede shoes

Carmelo15
07-27-2011, 10:24 PM
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Seattle is still working on Brandon MeBane but Denver is making big push along with others.
1 minute ago

C'mon John it's the 4th quarter

Mediator12
07-27-2011, 10:24 PM
I'm all for bringing in Muir - 6'2" 310lbs. He's a solid UT with great lateral agility or could rotate in as DT on passing downs. In comparison; I'd call him a 'more rush, less anchor' version of Vickerson with equally high football awareness.

No. Muir is a 4-3 NT with limited explosiveness at the snap. He is a 4-3 Anchor on run down only rotational player. However, DEN currently needs a few of these players and if his price is right, he could be a solid run rotational NT.

SoCalBronco
07-27-2011, 10:27 PM
C'mon John it's the 4th quarter

Man...I'm getting really nervous right now. I'm glad their making a big push, but they have to close the deal.

Mediator12
07-27-2011, 10:33 PM
Man...I'm getting really nervous right now. I'm glad their making a big push, but they have to close the deal.

The problem is, this is like Texas holdem poker, with no real cards in the river to evaluate deals. The agents are likely to bluff deals from other teams and FA has never been this way before. So, teams low bid until they reach their value ceiling and fold. The top players are still available in a lot of cases. All the top CB's are still on the market as are 3 of the top 4 DT's IMHO.

Lot's of top Players still getting offers and with so many potential deals out there the FO are much slower to respond than usual. I just hope DEN gets Starks and then Mebane or Jenkins. Ohterwise, they are going to be pedestrian in the Front seven for the sixth straight year......

SoCalBronco
07-27-2011, 10:39 PM
The problem is, this is like Texas holdem poker, with no real cards in the river to evaluate deals. The agents are likely to bluff deals from other teams and FA has never been this way before. So, teams low bid until they reach their value ceiling and fold. The top players are still available in a lot of cases. All the top CB's are still on the market as are 3 of the top 4 DT's IMHO.

Lot's of top Players still getting offers and with so many potential deals out there the FO are much slower to respond than usual. I just hope DEN gets Starks and then Mebane or Jenkins. Ohterwise, they are going to be pedestrian in the Front seven for the sixth straight year......

It's certainly uncharted territory, Med. I think we're going to get a prime DT here, just because we've got to have one and they'll probably overpay to make sure it gets done.

Archer81
07-27-2011, 10:41 PM
It's certainly uncharted territory, Med. I think we're going to get a prime DT here, just because we've got to have one and they'll probably overpay to make sure it gets done.


Considering our HC knows what he wants in a defensive lineman and has the ability to get them to play it seems likely one of the "big name" DT's out there will be a Bronco.


:Broncos:

cutthemdown
07-27-2011, 10:46 PM
I wouldn't worry you guys.Nothing happening as fast as the media predicted. Teams are cutting players more then signing them right now.

Mediator12
07-27-2011, 10:46 PM
Couple of things here not mentioned:

1. Fox knows Cullen Jenkins from coaching his brother in CAR. Kris and Fox had a tempestous relationship, because the GM would not give him big money after his injury.

2. The name NO ONE is talking about is Kelly Gregg getting released from BAL. Gregg is better than Bannan, and he is a legit 4-3 NT who knows how to stop the run. More so than any other DT available, outside a potential trade for Starks, he is the top 4-3 NT available to me.

3. There will be other cuts of high priced DL as teams sign FA's the next 2 days. Over paid DL will be on the market and there are a couple more names that will be in the second wave worth looking at IMHO.

epicSocialism4tw
07-27-2011, 10:49 PM
Couple of things here not mentioned:

1. Fox knows Cullen Jenkins from coaching his brother in CAR. Kris and Fox had a tempestous relationship, because the GM would not give him big money after his injury.

2. The name NO ONE is talking about is Kelly Gregg getting released from BAL. Gregg is better than Bannan, and he is a legit 4-3 NT who knows how to stop the run. More so than any other DT available, outside a potential trade for Starks, he is the top 4-3 NT available to me.

3. There will be other cuts of high priced DL as teams sign FA's the next 2 days. Over paid DL will be on the market and there are a couple more names that will be in the second wave worth looking at IMHO.

I like Gregg as well, and I have wondered if the BBT have him as a back pocket kind of get and are driving the price up on Mebane to take Seattle out of the market.

cutthemdown
07-27-2011, 10:51 PM
Broncos may be looking to sign 2 DT. It could be Mebane, and then another older vet like Gregg. Thats what I would do if I was in charge.

Broncojef
07-27-2011, 10:55 PM
I like Gregg as well, and I have wondered if the BBT have him as a back pocket kind of get and are driving the price up on Mebane to take Seattle out of the market.

I certainly hope so I talked about Gregg being released yesterday in this forum and they mentioned him again on the fan (Alfred and Stink) as being the best out there in their opinion along with Jenkins. I'm still hoping we skip Mebane and sign Jenkins and Gregg.

Boomhauer
07-27-2011, 10:59 PM
Muir is a 4-3 NT with limited explosiveness at the snap. He is a 4-3 Anchor on run down only rotational player...

That's incorrect. I'm assuming you checked IND's depth chart, being unfamiliar with him, but forgot their defensive scheme.

snowspot66
07-27-2011, 11:02 PM
Gregg's age scares me but it looks like he's been pretty healthy for most of his career. Missed 08 but other than that nothing really worth mentioning. Why not, bring him in.

cutthemdown
07-27-2011, 11:07 PM
Gregg's age scares me but it looks like he's been pretty healthy for most of his career. Missed 08 but other than that nothing really worth mentioning. Why not, bring him in.

Those older players like Gregg only make sense if they also get the younger player Mebane. Older guys need to be used in situations they will thrive in, and not asked to much of or they will be busts. Broncos go out and sign only some older DT, then try to play him 60 plays a game, they will kill the dude lol.

UberBroncoMan
07-28-2011, 12:51 AM
Sign Mebane and trade Orton to Miami for Starks. Boom, done.

Houshyamama
07-28-2011, 12:59 AM
Sign Mebane and trade Orton to Miami for Starks. Boom, done.

Then bring in Fat Albert and we're set.

Requiem
07-28-2011, 01:18 AM
That's incorrect. I'm assuming you checked IND's depth chart, being unfamiliar with him, but forgot their defensive scheme.

I'm sure you don't know much about IND, especially in comparison to Mediator. Stop kidding yourself.

ZONA
07-28-2011, 01:50 AM
Get Mebane - it will all work out for the best.

Boomhauer
07-28-2011, 03:03 AM
I'm sure you don't know much about IND, especially in comparison to Mediator. Stop kidding yourself.

Than I'm sure he also knows Muir's played well under 300lbs and at the RDT position too, but moved over to LDT and added weight for a 2-DT rather than NT/UT look. But if he knew that, why would he call Muir a 4-3 NT?

ozomulsion
07-28-2011, 03:10 AM
I'm sure you don't know much about IND, especially in comparison to Mediator. Stop kidding yourself.

Naa man, this dude knows his stuff. He informed me that Steve Slaton is significantly better than Moreno, and that Cadillac Williams is the answer to our RB troubles. Along with Marion Barber of course. ROFL! Sorry boom, I try not to dump on people like that, but I'll never forget that post, like ever.

Boomhauer
07-28-2011, 04:12 AM
... but I'll never forget that post, like ever.Yet you've already misquoted it. [Facepalm]
Daniel Muir - DL - Colts
Free agent DT Daniel Muir is reportedly drawing interest from the Broncos and Rams...Bill Williamson of ESPN.com, formerly of the DPost, also reported/quoted that from Jason La Canfora
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/29415/late-afc-west-notes
Denver is reportedly looking at defensive tackle Danny Muir.
The Broncos also are trying to sign Seattle defensive tackle Brandon Mebane.

Requiem
07-28-2011, 04:31 AM
Than I'm sure he also knows Muir's played well under 300lbs and at the RDT position too, but moved over to LDT and added weight for a 2-DT rather than NT/UT look. But if he knew that, why would he call Muir a 4-3 NT?

Best fit, and FWIW -- Med knows a lot about Indy.

Broncoman13
07-28-2011, 05:26 AM
That's incorrect. I'm assuming you checked IND's depth chart, being unfamiliar with him, but forgot their defensive scheme.

Good post, you really know your stuff! One day, when Med grows up, he will hope to know as much about the Colts.

Dont worry about what everyone else is saying. You're killing it with your posts. Everyone else is wrong and just wishes they knew as much as you. I may be interested in hiring you to manage my fantasy football team. I usually do alright on my own, but someone with the overall knowledge of the game that you display could put me over the top. Keep an eye out for my PM.

/S

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 07:42 AM
That's incorrect. I'm assuming you checked IND's depth chart, being unfamiliar with him, but forgot their defensive scheme.

That might be the funniest thing I've read all year. Hilarious!

Dagmar
07-28-2011, 07:57 AM
That might be the funniest thing I've read all year. Hilarious!

Did you not see his post last night claiming Brandstater was better than Orton?? ROFL!

Mediator12
07-28-2011, 08:25 AM
That's incorrect. I'm assuming you checked IND's depth chart, being unfamiliar with him, but forgot their defensive scheme.

Dude I have seen him play EVERY game the last 2 years. He never plays on third downs and rotates the NT position with Antonio Johnson based on the playcall and series. Get a grip. He was a basic run stuffer for the Colts, and played below his breakout season last year.

Jimmy
07-28-2011, 08:30 AM
My explanation as to why Mebane isn't inked yet:

http://i51.tinypic.com/m8o70x.jpg

Requiem
07-28-2011, 08:34 AM
Who you callin' names now Boomhooper?

BAAAAAAAAM!

baja
07-28-2011, 08:46 AM
This is what I'm hoping for. I'm glad we lost the bidding for DeAngelo Williams. More money for DT.

So what has happened to Elway's much touted "Open book" policy at Dove Valley?

Mediator12
07-28-2011, 08:48 AM
My explanation as to why Mebane isn't inked yet:

http://i51.tinypic.com/m8o70x.jpg

That is Freaking hilarious! Almost as good as the one gap photo from a few years ago.

TheReverend
07-28-2011, 09:04 AM
That is Freaking hilarious! Almost as good as the one gap photo from a few years ago.

Indy @ Jags game, this year, btw?

Come down.

Tombstone RJ
07-28-2011, 09:17 AM
Don't know how much clearer I can make it.

Mebane = Black

Bannan and another cheap run stopper = White

Alfred Williams and Stink = Racist

let's play connect the dots!

RaiderH8r
07-28-2011, 09:32 AM
Oh man, for us to have Tebowners AND Meboners.... Well man, that'd be just swell.

It could well last 20 weeks or more. That's stamina baby. That's teamwork. That's priapism...that's.....OWWWW!!!

srphoenix
07-28-2011, 11:18 AM
Looks like were still in the hunt for Mebane. Hopefully we can get Orton shipped out and ink Mebane by the end of the day.

ClaytonESPN (http://twitter.com/#%21/ClaytonESPN) John Clayton



Just making sure everyone is on same page. Brandon MeBane remains unsigned still talking Sea, Den and others

Kaylore
07-28-2011, 11:21 AM
My explanation as to why Mebane isn't inked yet:

http://i51.tinypic.com/m8o70x.jpg

LOL

theAPAOps5
07-28-2011, 11:26 AM
That's incorrect. I'm assuming you checked IND's depth chart, being unfamiliar with him, but forgot their defensive scheme.

This post is so humorous for so many reasons!

MABroncoFan
07-28-2011, 11:27 AM
from rotoworld.com

According to Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times, the Seahawks have now made re-signing DT Brandon Mebane their "No. 1 priority" in free agency.

We haven't heard much movement on the Mebane front since a number of reports on interested teams trickled out late last night. Mebane was a top-notch run stuffer in Pete Carroll's defense last year, even if his sack numbers were down. The Broncos are believed to be Seattle's main competition. The Rams have sniffed around the situation, but don't seem willing to pay up. Jul 28, 1:00 PM

bendog
07-28-2011, 11:28 AM
Muir would be good

bronclvr
07-28-2011, 11:28 AM
According to Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times, the Seahawks have now made re-signing DT Brandon Mebane their "No. 1 priority" in free agency.

We haven't heard much movement on the Mebane front since a number of reports on interested teams trickled out late last night. Mebane was a top-notch run stuffer in Pete Carroll's defense last year, even if his sack numbers were down. The Broncos are believed to be Seattle's main competition. The Rams have sniffed around the situation, but don't seem willing to pay up. Jul 28, 1:00 PM

http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4367/brandon-mebane

theAPAOps5
07-28-2011, 11:30 AM
Echo, echo, echo

zdoor
07-28-2011, 11:32 AM
Bowen has signed with the Redskins.

MABroncoFan
07-28-2011, 11:41 AM
I read the Redskins were considered to be close to landing Cullen Jenkins. This was before Bowen signed, but that may have no impact.

Rabb
07-28-2011, 11:43 AM
hey has anyone checked on what rotoworld has to say?

BroncoInferno
07-28-2011, 11:44 AM
I read the Redskins were considered to be close to landing Cullen Jenkins. This was before Bowen signed, but that may have no impact.

The Skins run a 3-4...Cofield and Bowen are both DEs in the alignment. Jenkins isn't a NT. So, it would seem like Jenkins may be off the radar, unless they plan to use him as strictly a pass rusher? Interesting. Maybe Jenkins is not out of play after all.

Beantown Bronco
07-28-2011, 11:49 AM
The Skins run a 3-4...Cofield and Bowen are both DEs in the alignment. Jenkins isn't a NT. So, it would seem like Jenkins may be off the radar, unless they plan to use him as strictly a pass rusher? Interesting. Maybe Jenkins is not out of play after all.

The Skins apparently told Cofield that he'd play mostly NT.

MABroncoFan
07-28-2011, 11:56 AM
Ultimately I think Mebane returns to Seattle, and we sign a couple of DTs like Hargrove, Muir, and Landri.


JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Teams like CHI, CLE, STL, DEN shopping for DTs, also, but could be more bargains. Anthony Hargrove and Danny Muir also drawing attention

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Still hearing Dallas and New Orleans in the mix for Cullen Jenkins. Overall market for DTs been soft to form. SEA wants to keep Mebane...
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BroncoInferno
07-28-2011, 12:00 PM
The Skins apparently told Cofield that he'd play mostly NT.

Ah, gotcha.

Mediator12
07-28-2011, 12:34 PM
OK, SIGN HIM ALREADY! AND, YES I AM SHOUTING!!!!!

DarkHorse
07-28-2011, 12:43 PM
Every f'ing team out there who has contacted FA's so far has been able to lock their deals into place.


WTF is going on with us???


Do we suck at closing deals or what?

bowtown
07-28-2011, 12:45 PM
Elway told Xanders to go get some DTs this morning and he came back with 2 Double Thick crust pizzas.

cutthemdown
07-28-2011, 12:45 PM
It's hard to compete with Seattle unless we offer way more. The owner super rich, they have their own plane, they stay in 5 star hotels etc etc. Probably a pretty cool owner to play for. Skins have that allure as well, cowboys etc etc.

rbackfactory80
07-28-2011, 12:46 PM
I assume it is probably difficult to sign free agents in Denver right now. Look at where they are and where they have been the last couple years. If I was a free agent I would definitely need to be sold the team is in fact moving in the right direction.

Rabb
07-28-2011, 12:47 PM
It's hard to compete with Seattle unless we offer way more. The owner super rich, they have their own plane, they stay in 5 star hotels etc etc. Probably a pretty cool owner to play for. Skins have that allure as well, cowboys etc etc.

Uhh

cutthemdown
07-28-2011, 12:47 PM
Every f'ing team out there who has contacted FA's so far has been able to lock their deals into place.


WTF is going on with us???


Do we suck at closing deals or what?

Put yourself in a FA shoes. Would you rather sign with a team that is winning, or losing? A lot of times for the good players the money is there from 2-3 teams. Remember when Elway was playing and we could get players easily? Well we stink now and it's not the same. Until our draft picks play well, and the team shows its not a laughingstock, it could be tough. All the off field problems from Darrent's murder, to Marshalls run ins with Denver PD, to Cox, etc etc also probably don't help.

Rabb
07-28-2011, 12:49 PM
All the off field problems from Darrent's murder, to Marshalls run ins with Denver PD, to Cox, etc etc also probably don't help.

yes I know, god damn the team for those things!

yerner
07-28-2011, 12:50 PM
Tony Brown? Justin Harrell? Both released.

ozomulsion
07-28-2011, 12:50 PM
I'd sign with whatever team has Jesus, and the Broncos (Tebow)
as close as it can get. Jesus > Cool & rich owner

Beantown Bronco
07-28-2011, 12:51 PM
Put yourself in a FA shoes. Would you rather sign with a team that is winning, or losing? A lot of times for the good players the money is there from 2-3 teams. Remember when Elway was playing and we could get players easily? Well we stink now and it's not the same. Until our draft picks play well, and the team shows its not a laughingstock, it could be tough. All the off field problems from Darrent's murder, to Marshalls run ins with Denver PD, to Cox, etc etc also probably don't help.

Free agents love the Redskins, and it's certainly not because of their record!

ghwk
07-28-2011, 01:04 PM
Put yourself in a FA shoes. Would you rather sign with a team that is winning, or losing? A lot of times for the good players the money is there from 2-3 teams. Remember when Elway was playing and we could get players easily? Well we stink now and it's not the same. Until our draft picks play well, and the team shows its not a laughingstock, it could be tough. All the off field problems from Darrent's murder, to Marshalls run ins with Denver PD, to Cox, etc etc also probably don't help.

But but but we have Jesus at quarterback! People should come play here for FREE! Ha!

oubronco
07-28-2011, 01:06 PM
They need to pay these mother****ers so we can field a competent defense for a change

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 01:10 PM
Tony Brown? Justin Harrell? Both released.

Maybe Ayers would play better with Harrell.

MABroncoFan
07-28-2011, 01:12 PM
rotoworld

Talks between the Redskins and free agent DE Cullen Jenkins are dead, according to Profootballtalk's Mike Florio.
The Redskins chose to go with Stephen Bowen as their defensive end addition and won't be breaking the bank for another one. The Broncos, Cowboys and Saints are in the mix for Jenkins, one of the best free agents still out there. Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com Jul 28, 3:10 PM

BroncosMT
07-28-2011, 01:15 PM
rotoworld

Talks between the Redskins and free agent DE Cullen Jenkins are dead, according to Profootballtalk's Mike Florio.
The Redskins chose to go with Stephen Bowen as their defensive end addition and won't be breaking the bank for another one. The Broncos, Cowboys and Saints are in the mix for Jenkins, one of the best free agents still out there. Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com Jul 28, 3:10 PM

The Cowboys will show him the $$$$

Houshyamama
07-28-2011, 01:16 PM
excellent.

Houshyamama
07-28-2011, 01:17 PM
The Cowboys will show him the $$$$

I know they cut a bunch of players, but I think they're still short on cap space.

broncos-rock
07-28-2011, 01:18 PM
The Cowboys will show him the $$$$

I dont know they kind of broke the bank to sign that oline tackle.

BroncosMT
07-28-2011, 01:19 PM
I dont know they kind of broke the bank to sign that oline tackle.

I would agree but Jerry has to compete with Daniel somehow!

Hercules Rockefeller
07-28-2011, 01:23 PM
Wasn't Harrell the reason they traded up for Moss? After Harrell, JM was the last of their targets?

yerner
07-28-2011, 01:48 PM
Wasn't Harrell the reason they traded up for Moss? After Harrell, JM was the last of their targets?

Don't know. He has been more of a injury guy than a bust though.

Also, Okoye from Houston has been given permision to seek a trade. Might be better than nothing.

bendog
07-28-2011, 01:50 PM
Wasn't Harrell the reason they traded up for Moss? After Harrell, JM was the last of their targets?

That's my recollection. Timmons was another guy on their board, as I recall. Maybe Carriker too, that I have no recollection of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_Draft

ozomulsion
07-28-2011, 02:07 PM
That's my recollection. Timmons was another guy on their board, as I recall. Maybe Carriker too, that I have no recollection of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_Draft

That's so F*#*ing sad, and disappointing.

Rulon Velvet Jones
07-28-2011, 02:09 PM
Cowboys, as currently built, don't have the money for Jenkins or Mebane. They'd have to restructure Romo and Ware and maybe cut Newman. They still need to find a safety and a 3rd WR, too. I don't know how they do it, especially with the price tags on either of those guys.

gyldenlove
07-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Wasn't Harrell the reason they traded up for Moss? After Harrell, JM was the last of their targets?

Yup, the 3 players they had targeted were Moss, Harrell and Timmins, since both Timmins and Harrell got picked they didn't want to risk Moss being drafted before us and moved up.

Another solid Shanahan draft.

mkporter
07-28-2011, 02:13 PM
That's my recollection. Timmons was another guy on their board, as I recall. Maybe Carriker too, that I have no recollection of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_Draft

Wasn't it Willis? Now that would've been nice.

WolfpackGuy
07-28-2011, 02:16 PM
I thought Calvin Johnson is who they were going for before that megadeal fell through with DET.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-28-2011, 02:21 PM
I thought Calvin Johnson is who they were going for before that megadeal fell through with DET.

Megatron megadeal

Rumored tradeups at some point for any of the following: Peterson, Anderson, Okoye, and Willis

Realistic targets: Moss, Timmons, and Harrell

Kaylore
07-28-2011, 02:40 PM
It's nice to see the cap working like it's supposed to where the rich franchises aren't able to sign every free agent available, purely to out penis-measure each other.

bendog
07-28-2011, 02:42 PM
We never had a shot at Willis. When it came down to Moss, I was a bit ill. He had bust all over him. Harrell, however, was a solid prospect, but he just has had horrible injury luck. Timmons is having a decent career. Four DBs were picked after the Moss pick. It wasn't one of those Deltha Oneal or Nash drafts where Shanny just reached. I dunno if he could have moved back out, but he did take a calculated risk that one of his targeted guys would be there. I just didn't like Moss.

Personally, I recall being unhappy when he moved up at all, because I was ok with all 4 dbs, and worst case was they'd still have had a shot at Anthony Spencer if they had to go front 7. Ironically Mebane was taken with the third round pick AFTEr the one Den gave up to move up in the 1st.

Mediator12
07-28-2011, 03:50 PM
SIGN HIM NOW and stop Screwing around! Seriously, FO you are just about to lose me again. Come on FOX, step in and get these amateurs moving on a REAL DT please!

oubronco
07-28-2011, 03:51 PM
SIGN HIM NOW and stop Screwing around! Seriously, FO you are just about to lose me again. Come on FOX, step in and get these amateurs moving on a REAL DT please!

Bravo med Bravo ^5

HooptyHoops
07-28-2011, 04:02 PM
SIGN HIM NOW and stop Screwing around! Seriously, FO you are just about to lose me again. Come on FOX, step in and get these amateurs moving on a REAL DT please!

my sentiments exactly!!

cutthemdown
07-28-2011, 04:03 PM
Players may just be using Broncos offers to get the offer the want from another team. Sucks but lets face it we are rebuilding, players don't flock to come to Denver right now.

oubronco
07-28-2011, 04:04 PM
Players may just be using Broncos offers to get the offer the want from another team. Sucks but lets face it we are rebuilding, players don't flock to come to Denver right now.

well damn it they need to change that by paying them

eddie mac
07-28-2011, 04:04 PM
That's my recollection. Timmons was another guy on their board, as I recall. Maybe Carriker too, that I have no recollection of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_Draft

Quite right.

It was

1. Timmons
2. Harrell
3. Moss

Oh how lucky we got.

eddie mac
07-28-2011, 04:07 PM
SIGN HIM NOW and stop Screwing around! Seriously, FO you are just about to lose me again. Come on FOX, step in and get these amateurs moving on a REAL DT please!

They're going to have to do more than signing 1 DT to win me back, it'll be a small step but one they need to make right now. I'm not going to put up with this Jarmon and Landri bollocks.

They ****ed this fanbase over with their belt-tightening approach and change of management scenery which quite frankly has been a laughing stock since.

ant1999e
07-28-2011, 04:08 PM
Players may just be using Broncos offers to get the offer the want from another team. Sucks but lets face it we are rebuilding, players don't flock to come to Denver right now.

They flock to Washington and they've been rebuilding for 20 years. Show me the money.

eddie mac
07-28-2011, 04:10 PM
Players may just be using Broncos offers to get the offer the want from another team. Sucks but lets face it we are rebuilding, players don't flock to come to Denver right now.

If Denver offer them what they want, they will come. It's as simple as that and has been that way since this game became a bottomless $$ pit. Problem is we haven't shown anyone that kind of respect since Shanahan left, bar our own draftee.

Mediator12
07-28-2011, 04:11 PM
They're going to have to do more than signing 1 DT to win me back, it'll be a small step but one they need to make right now. I'm not going to put up with this Jarmon and Landri bollocks.

They ****ed this fanbase over with their belt-tightening approach and change of management scenery which quite frankly has been a laughing stock since.

Getting Mebane is step one, and needs to be DONE! Period, no more BS negotiating unless Jenkins is still an option too. Then, they need to get a VET like Kelly Gregg to show all the young pukes what it takes to sacrifice as a NT in the NFL every play. Right now, they have zero Veteran DL to help with the young guys development and that is completely unacceptable going into your first TC as a staff.

GoBroncos84
07-28-2011, 04:12 PM
OK, SIGN HIM ALREADY! AND, YES I AM SHOUTING!!!!!

My feeling exactly. Screaming on the inside.

eddie mac
07-28-2011, 04:14 PM
Getting Mebane is step one, and needs to be DONE! Period, no more BS negotiating unless Jenkins is still an option too. Then, they need to get a VET like Kelly Gregg to show all the young pukes what it takes to sacrifice as a NT in the NFL every play. Right now, they have zero Veteran DL to help with the young guys development and that is completely unacceptable going into your first TC as a staff.

Exactly Med, they chose the non-DT path in the draft so they know they have to get this right in FA otherwise they'll just go backwards this year which I didn't even think was possible.

cutthemdown
07-28-2011, 04:16 PM
If Denver offer them what they want, they will come. It's as simple as that and has been that way since this game became a bottomless $$ pit. Problem is we haven't shown anyone that kind of respect since Shanahan left, bar our own draftee.

The problem comes when Sea just keeps saying we will match. Because he already probably is comfy living there etc etc. You agree there is some point where you can't just give some player 10 million a yr right? Broncos have to be realistic and say we will offer 10-15% more then market. At this point that may not be enough if the seahwaks wants to keep Mebane. Just like Champ re-upped with us, its easier to stay put.

Shananahan
07-28-2011, 04:16 PM
otherwise they'll just go backwards this year which I didn't even think was possible.
It isn't.

eddie mac
07-28-2011, 04:18 PM
It isn't.

Technically it is. We had the 2nd pick in 2011. The 1st pick in 2012 is certainly not out of reach.

eddie mac
07-28-2011, 04:20 PM
The problem comes when Sea just keeps saying we will match. Because he already probably is comfy living there etc etc. You agree there is some point where you can't just give some player 10 million a yr right? Broncos have to be realistic and say we will offer 10-15% more then market. At this point that may not be enough if the seahwaks wants to keep Mebane. Just like Champ re-upped with us, its easier to stay put.

I thought I read on here someone posted he didn't want to stay in Seattle so why would he allow them to match if that indeed was the case. I know what you're saying Cutts about players using our offers to get a better deal elsewhere and that could certainly be an issue but at some point if a team is offering the right money a good player will take it.

Drek
07-28-2011, 04:23 PM
Getting Mebane is step one, and needs to be DONE! Period, no more BS negotiating unless Jenkins is still an option too. Then, they need to get a VET like Kelly Gregg to show all the young pukes what it takes to sacrifice as a NT in the NFL every play. Right now, they have zero Veteran DL to help with the young guys development and that is completely unacceptable going into your first TC as a staff.

They need to sign Mebane and/or Jenkins

If its only one of those two they then need to sign Gregg or trade Orton to get Randy Starks.

Then they need to add someone like Derek Landri or Okoye as additional depth.

Go into the season with Mebane/Jenkins and Gregg/Starks with Vickerson, Jarmon, and Landri/Okoye at DT with Vickerson, Jarmon, and even Jenkins if we sign him stepping out to DE on occasion.

We've got no one at strong side end other than Ayers at this point as well. Adding some guys who can play inside or out to the DE mix would help a lot.

cutthemdown
07-28-2011, 04:24 PM
I'm not saying Broncos should not step up. They should but in my heart I know they are. I just think its tougher then you guys think sometimes. Sort of that Madden era where a lot of you younger fans just think you should be able to push a button and get it done. Then you say things like its mind boggling, i am losing faith in FO, and they just signed the number 1 pick, and the 2nd round pick, and are negotiating to try and get stuff done. They are smart to not move Orton for a 5th when KOLB got a great player and a 2nd. Orton at least worth a 3rd cmon! Elway and Xanders right now are being tested by the other GMS. I want them to hold firm, they are impressing me with the way even the media surprised Orton taking reps. Most times you sit the guy so he doesn't get hurt. That tells teams don't think we won't play the guy. He's only here for one more yr, we don't care if we lose out on a lousy 5th round pick. Not much better then udfa to tell you the truth.

Now with the DT I heard Broncos tried hard to get Bowers in but he wouldnt come. Probably not their fault. Mebane has his home team trying to keep him. He may go back and forth between Broncos and Hawks to see how high it goes. We don't know that Broncos won't still outbid for him. Trust me though we pay him 60 million, then he gets hurt or doesn't play well, people will say it was a stupid signing. Remember only us fans get hindsight. Elway and Xanders right now IMO not doing a bad job. Other GMS will take notice they didn't fire sale Orton and not come looking to push Broncos around every yr.

Funny because I used to be the negative one around here remember? What the hell is going on?

cutthemdown
07-28-2011, 04:26 PM
I thought I read on here someone posted he didn't want to stay in Seattle so why would he allow them to match if that indeed was the case. I know what you're saying Cutts about players using our offers to get a better deal elsewhere and that could certainly be an issue but at some point if a team is offering the right money a good player will take it.

I agree but there is still the possibility of having 2-3 teams all willing to keep bidding. Then it comes down to defensive scheme, then numbers they think they will get, winning, living in the city etc etc.

Just be patient something will get done on the dline, but be realistic even Mebane probably won't solve all our problems in the front 7.

I want him just as bad as you trust me. Him someone, I totally get being antsy about it.

fdf
07-28-2011, 04:28 PM
If Denver offer them what they want, they will come. It's as simple as that and has been that way since this game became a bottomless $$ pit. Problem is we haven't shown anyone that kind of respect since Shanahan left, bar our own draftee.

And then we showed it to IHOP, Carter et al. Our track record in high and low priced free agents is terrible.

mkporter
07-28-2011, 04:31 PM
I agree but there is still the possibility of having 2-3 teams all willing to keep bidding. Then it comes down to defensive scheme, then numbers they think they will get, winning, living in the city etc etc.

Just be patient something will get done on the dline, but be realistic even Mebane probably won't solve all our problems in the front 7.

I want him just as bad as you trust me. Him someone, I totally get being antsy about it.


Love the optimism, Cut. I think some teams & FAs (clearly not all) are also hesitant right now, because deals can't actually be signed until tomorrow.

eddie mac
07-28-2011, 04:33 PM
And then we showed it to IHOP, Carter et al. Our track record in high and low priced free agents is terrible.

Well we haven't drafted any, we have no young 2nd/3rd year players coming through at the position so we have to find quality from somewhere.

serious hops
07-28-2011, 04:42 PM
Well we haven't drafted any, we have no young 2nd/3rd year players coming through at the position so we have to find quality from somewhere.

"Have to" is such a strong term. The Duke saw how long Shanahan lasted here with garbage odds and ends on the DL-- maybe he's thinking about giving it a shot himself if Mebane's price goes any higher.

Somebody needs to tell him he's about to pull the front office equivalent of that whole lining up under guard fiasco, if we don't get a couple of actual NFL-caliber linemen.

LOL

broncos-rock
07-28-2011, 04:43 PM
One of the sports talk guys was saying Elway was really surprised by the big dollars that teams are paying right now and said that the Broncos are going to be patient.

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Does Bowlen ****ing understand that there's a cap floor?

Open your ****ing wallet.

We NEED to get a prime DT.

ghwk
07-28-2011, 04:51 PM
One of the sports talk guys was saying Elway was really surprised by the big dollars that teams are paying right now and said that the Broncos are going to be patient.

I read that as the Bronco's will be bottom feeding again and probably having to overpay anyway because anything worth paying for will already be gone.

Here's looking forward to the 2012 season and Andrew Luck!

ant1999e
07-28-2011, 04:52 PM
I read that as the Bronco's will be bottom feeding again and probably having to overpay anyway because anything worth paying for will already be gone.

Here's looking forward to the 2012 season and Andrew Luck!

Can Luck play DT?

broncos-rock
07-28-2011, 04:54 PM
I read that as the Bronco's will be bottom feeding again and probably having to overpay anyway because anything worth paying for will already be gone.

Here's looking forward to the 2012 season and Andrew Luck!

I think thats a fair statement. I'm a little concerned that the front office is not more prepared. I still think that pizza boy needs to go.

oubronco
07-28-2011, 04:56 PM
One of the sports talk guys was saying Elway was really surprised by the big dollars that teams are paying right now and said that the Broncos are going to be patient.

Jeez more of this shyt!! Really

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 05:02 PM
One of the sports talk guys was saying Elway was really surprised by the big dollars that teams are paying right now and said that the Broncos are going to be patient.

Why wait. Go sign all the cheap broken **** that no one wants now or a week from now and get them in camp ASAP. Good ****ing players won't sit around waiting to make less money. Our ****ING FO IS RETARDED.

ghwk
07-28-2011, 05:03 PM
Can Luck play DT?

No we move Tebow there. ROFL!

Popcorn Sutton
07-28-2011, 08:24 PM
Mebane just tweeted "I pray I made the right choice."

Sounds like we will know something soon...

Popcorn Sutton
07-28-2011, 08:25 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/Mebane92

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 08:26 PM
Mebane just tweeted "I pray I made the right choice."

Sounds like we will know something soon...

I heard from Montrose that we dropped out of the bidding. That better not be true. I'm going to be ****ing pissed. We lost out on other guys...why not spend a little more for a DT? Ofcourse we're going to have to overpay...why the **** else would someone want to come here?

I'm going to be royally pissed if we struck out on this, too. The cheap POS old man strikes again.

Popcorn Sutton
07-28-2011, 08:28 PM
I heard from Montrose that we dropped out of the bidding. That better not be true. I'm going to be ****ing pissed. We lost out on other guys...why not spend a little more for a DT? Ofcourse we're going to have to overpay...why the **** else would someone want to come here?

I'm going to be royally pissed if we struck out on this, too. The cheap POS old man strikes again.

Man, I hope not. The one thing the fans need here in Denver is a DT we can actually be excited about.

Ratboy
07-28-2011, 08:29 PM
Sounds like he resigned with Seattle...

Abqbronco
07-28-2011, 08:29 PM
Why wait. Go sign all the cheap broken **** that no one wants now or a week from now and get them in camp ASAP. Good ****ing players won't sit around waiting to make less money. Our ****ING FO IS RETARDED.

LOL Take a xanax dude. Chill... Tomorrow the sun will come up, the birds will chirp, and the little baby Jesus will still love you.

Popcorn Sutton
07-28-2011, 08:29 PM
Ha, his next tweet "Lighten up, I just picked a DVD"

oubronco
07-28-2011, 08:31 PM
Mebane just tweeted "I pray I made the right choice."

Sounds like we will know something soon...

Mebane92Brandon Mebane

Lighten up! I just picked up a DVD!!!!

Shananahan
07-28-2011, 08:32 PM
This guy has been nonstop and pretty accurate so far:

Working on this Mebane stuff right now.. Hear an hour ago he was leaning towards Seattle or Denver (Could have changed will see now)

cmhargrove
07-28-2011, 08:32 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/Mebane92

Twitter.


The final nail in the coffin that used to be the English language.

oubronco
07-28-2011, 08:33 PM
I heard from Montrose that we dropped out of the bidding. That better not be true. I'm going to be ****ing pissed. We lost out on other guys...why not spend a little more for a DT? Ofcourse we're going to have to overpay...why the **** else would someone want to come here?

I'm going to be royally pissed if we struck out on this, too. The cheap POS old man strikes again.

This sucks if true

HBK
07-28-2011, 08:34 PM
Suspense is killing me. I'd say that if he prays he made the right choice he is taking a risk and leaving Seattle?

Bob's your Information Minister
07-28-2011, 08:35 PM
Insane in the Mebane!

oubronco
07-28-2011, 08:36 PM
Dumbass in the Bob brain!

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 08:41 PM
LOL Take a xanax dude. Chill... Tomorrow the sun will come up, the birds will chirp, and the little baby Jesus will still love you.

I don't give a ****. Don't go after top players that are FA's then get shocked that teams are paying lots for them. This **** didn't start happening this year. Don't waste our time as fans by bringing in good players to visit when you know damn well we are not willing to spend the money to get them. Sign and trade for the **** guys early and fast and lets move on towards are second top 5 pick in back to back years.

oubronco
07-28-2011, 08:42 PM
Earlier on the ticket they were asking "where are the moves" for Denver. The friggin Broncos are sitting on their ass and not doing ****

TheReverend
07-28-2011, 08:44 PM
Earlier on the ticket they were asking "where are the moves" for Denver. The friggin Broncos are sitting on their ass and not doing ****




...Any other headlines from the Obvious News Network?

Gutless Drunk
07-28-2011, 08:45 PM
28930

Now who the hell is Arnie Stapleton?

oubronco
07-28-2011, 08:47 PM
I don't know but that is one helluva an ass in your avatar

Gutless Drunk
07-28-2011, 08:48 PM
Focus Man!!! Arnie Stapleton...GO!

snowspot66
07-28-2011, 08:48 PM
Unless we're talking about a Dan Snyder handout to Fat Albert I don't want to hear "too expensive" bull****. We have to spend the money on somebody.

TheReverend
07-28-2011, 08:49 PM
I don't know but that is one helluva an ass in your avatar

It really is, isn't it?

It's the bright point of the day.

Side note: I'll bet she could operate the FO better than these clowns.

montrose
07-28-2011, 08:51 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=28930&d=1311907522

Now who the hell is Arnie Stapleton?

To clarify, I wasn't reporting the Broncos are out of the bidding - I told SoCal about this report. I've heard nothing on Mebane or Jenkins other than the Broncos were one of the teams in the bidding.

And FYI, Arnie is the AP writer assigned to the Broncos beat.

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 08:51 PM
28930

Now who the hell is Arnie Stapleton?

Very respected AP writer.

Thanks alot, Bowlen. You ****ing cheap piece of ****.

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 08:52 PM
Focus Man!!! Arnie Stapleton...GO!

beat writer for Denver

montrose
07-28-2011, 08:53 PM
Very respected AP writer.

Thanks alot, Bowlen. You ****ing cheap piece of ****.

Turn that frown upside down!

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Stanley+Cup+Finals+Pittsburgh+Penguins+v+Detroit+-9ueMz920Eyl.jpg

oubronco
07-28-2011, 08:53 PM
Very respected AP writer.

Thanks alot, Bowlen. You ****ing cheap piece of ****.

F***************************************CK

Dr. Broncenstein
07-28-2011, 08:54 PM
WTF do we do now? Hope to re-sign HAM and beg Bannon to come back?

Ray Finkle
07-28-2011, 08:55 PM
Very respected AP writer.

Thanks alot, Bowlen. You ****ing cheap piece of ****.

why would you overpay for a DT? Really let's say he wants 25 mil guaranteed....

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 08:55 PM
Turn that frown upside down!

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Stanley+Cup+Finals+Pittsburgh+Penguins+v+Detroit+-9ueMz920Eyl.jpg

Dude...that picture just makes me even more sad, since we dont know if Sid will be the same.

Outside of the possibility of Denver signing Jenkins AND prying Starks from Miami for Orton, its hard to see how this situation is going to turn out well for Denver if in fact Bowlen cheaped out on Mebane.

Dr. Broncenstein
07-28-2011, 08:56 PM
why would you overpay for a DT? Really let's say he wants 25 mil guaranteed....

Whatever it takes to land the guy you publicly targeted... especially since we didn't have shiat to start with and ignored the position in the draft.

ant1999e
07-28-2011, 08:57 PM
why would you overpay for a DT? Really let's say he wants 25 mil guaranteed....

What if he wants 100 zillion dollars???

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 08:57 PM
why would you overpay for a DT? Really let's say he wants 25 mil guaranteed....

Why would we overpay?

How bout because we have to since:
1. We have absolutely nothing of value on the roster.
2. We ignored it in the draft.
3. We ignored it in the UDFA round.
4. We haven't spent any money anywhere else, so putting a little more here isn't going to end the world.
5. No one respectable is going to willingly come here without getting a really really nice paycheck. Why would any stud sign here for less or equal to what they could get on a team that isn't a mess?

Garcia Bronco
07-28-2011, 08:58 PM
Dude...that picture just makes me even more sad, since we dont know if Sid will be the same.

Outside of the possibility of Denver signing Jenkins AND prying Starks from Miami for Orton, its hard to see how this situation is going to turn out well for Denver if in fact Bowlen cheaped out on Mebane.

overpaying for any player is stupid. That's what got us to where we are now, from Dale Carter to now

Garcia Bronco
07-28-2011, 09:00 PM
Why would we overpay?

How bout because we have to since:
1. We have absolutely nothing of value on the roster.
2. We ignored it in the draft.
3. We ignored it in the UDFA round.
4. We haven't spent any money anywhere else, so putting a little more here isn't going to end the world.
5. No one respectable is going to willingly come here without getting a really really nice paycheck. Why would any stud sign here for less or equal to what they could get on a team that isn't a mess?

And that's why we have to keep building through the draft. This is gonna hurt for a few years more...if thing turn around.

Perry1977
07-28-2011, 09:00 PM
Ugh.

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 09:00 PM
why would you overpay for a DT? Really let's say he wants 25 mil guaranteed....

I would be happy if we just paid a DT period.

Atwater His Ass
07-28-2011, 09:01 PM
overpaying for any player is stupid. That's what got us to where we are now, from Dale Carter to now

This isn't even remotely true.

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 09:02 PM
And that's why we have to keep building through the draft. This is gonna hurt for a few years more...if thing turn around.

You can't build from something you chose to ignore.

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 09:02 PM
overpaying for any player is stupid. That's what got us to where we are now, from Dale Carter to now

No one is going to sign for equal value in Denver as opposed to a team that isn't a ****ing mess. You are living in a fantasy world. We're also forced to overpay because our green FO refused to address the position until now. I don't want to hear that they aren't willing to go slightly above above market value when its their own ****ing fault. It's called unclean hands and they've got it.

Ratboy
07-28-2011, 09:04 PM
We're a joke.

ant1999e
07-28-2011, 09:04 PM
And that's why we have to keep building through the draft. This is gonna hurt for a few years more...if thing turn around.

When do we start???

Popcorn Sutton
07-28-2011, 09:05 PM
Why would we overpay?

How bout because we have to since:
1. We have absolutely nothing of value on the roster.
2. We ignored it in the draft.
3. We ignored it in the UDFA round.
4. We haven't spent any money anywhere else, so putting a little more here isn't going to end the world.
5. No one respectable is going to willingly come here without getting a really really nice paycheck. Why would any stud sign here for less or equal to what they could get on a team that isn't a mess?

How about the fact that we just signed the number 2 pick in the draft for half of what we would have last season. Time to apply that money to a stud DT.

extralife
07-28-2011, 09:06 PM
it's ok guys Kevin Vickerson is just gonna put on a lot of weight and play 3 tech and NT at the same time

snowspot66
07-28-2011, 09:06 PM
This guys says we were still in it about an hour ago and he seems to be pretty on top of things.

http://twitter.com/#!/incarceratedbob

Ratboy
07-28-2011, 09:08 PM
I wonder if our FO thinks the lockout is still going on?

mkporter
07-28-2011, 09:08 PM
I've been pretty patient up to this point, but if it turns out that Mebane signed for something reasonable to stay with the seadogs, I might start to lose it a little.

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 09:09 PM
When do we start???

The bust rate for DT's is too high. Over paying for DT's is bad. Not being able to stop the run is ****ing awesome. Someday we will wear down a other teams O because we forced them to break off too many 40 plus yard runs.

Baba Booey
07-28-2011, 09:10 PM
If we really did drop out of the bidding, so much for being active in free agency.

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 09:10 PM
This guys says we were still in it about an hour ago and he seems to be pretty on top of things.

http://twitter.com/#!/incarceratedbob

He better be right...because if they strike out on all the prime DT's and then try to address it with a bunch of B List candidates like Landri and Muir and some other rotational guys, they better get ready for a full scale revolt.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-28-2011, 09:12 PM
This guys says we were still in it about an hour ago and he seems to be pretty on top of things.

http://twitter.com/#!/incarceratedbob

If his rumors are as accurate as his hockey trade rumors, I wouldn't believe a word that Incarcerated Bob says.

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 09:12 PM
He better be right...because if they strike out on all the prime DT's and then try to address it with a bunch of B List candidates like Landri and Muir and some other rotational guys, they better get ready for a full scale revolt.

I like Landri. He has potential.

snowspot66
07-28-2011, 09:13 PM
If his rumors are as accurate as his hockey trade rumors, I wouldn't believe a word that Incarcerated Bob says.

Well he just called Nnamdi to the Jets. Don't see that anywhere else yet. Guess we'll find out soon.

DenverBrit
07-28-2011, 09:13 PM
If we really did drop out of the bidding, so much for being active in free agency.

Free agency signings start tomorrow, Fri.

MABroncoFan
07-28-2011, 09:13 PM
Broncos unlikely to land Jenkins or Mebane

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15367581

OrangeSe7en
07-28-2011, 09:13 PM
Why would we overpay?

How bout because we have to since:
1. We have absolutely nothing of value on the roster.
2. We ignored it in the draft.
3. We ignored it in the UDFA round.
4. We haven't spent any money anywhere else, so putting a little more here isn't going to end the world.
5. No one respectable is going to willingly come here without getting a really really nice paycheck. Why would any stud sign here for less or equal to what they could get on a team that isn't a mess?

6. If the team finishes 3-13 again, it will cost them more than what they'd be paying Mebane.

MABroncoFan
07-28-2011, 09:16 PM
He better be right...because if they strike out on all the prime DT's and then try to address it with a bunch of B List candidates like Landri and Muir and some other rotational guys, they better get ready for a full scale revolt.


I have a feeling that is going to be what happens - sign 2 or 3 of Landri, Muir, Hatcher, M. Thomas, etc. instead of 1 big name DT.

ant1999e
07-28-2011, 09:16 PM
Free agency signings start tomorrow, Fri.

In case you've been under a rock, teams are agreeing to terms with players.

DenverBrit
07-28-2011, 09:17 PM
In case you've been under a rock, teams are agreeing to terms with players.

So you know which players are going where??

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 09:17 PM
Broncos unlikely to land Jenkins or Mebane

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15367581

I won't be remotely surprised if that happens. Not one bit. Does the FO realize that no one is going to watch this ****? Don't you see that, old man? You have to make a commitment to the fans...if they think you don't give a ****, the average joe isn't going to watch the product after Game 3 or 4. The hardcore people like us on this site will still watch, grudgingly and unhappily, but the vast majority of casual fans aren't going to put time and money into it after awhile.

Being cheap is just going to cost them in the long run. Just as OrangeSe7en mentioned above. It will cost more in the end if we're 3-13. ****ing clowns.

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 09:19 PM
So you know which players are going where??

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/0/Football-Headlines?rw=1

Gutless Drunk
07-28-2011, 09:19 PM
Broncos unlikely to land Jenkins or Mebane

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15367581

28931

LOL..seeking value is what we did last year. If I recall we were still trying to set up "visits" for guys signing elsewhere

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 09:20 PM
I have a feeling that is going to be what happens - sign 2 or 3 of Landri, Muir, Hatcher, M. Thomas, etc. instead of 1 big name DT.

Yep...that's exactly what's going to happen. I can totally feel it. Marcus Thomas and a couple rotational DT's and a couple guys with "potential". Basically nothing, in other words.

snowspot66
07-28-2011, 09:20 PM
Where is this limited cap room bull**** coming from? We are under the floor.

Baba Booey
07-28-2011, 09:21 PM
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i403/dperry7/Reaction%20Images/1308535231780.jpg

NFLBRONCO
07-28-2011, 09:23 PM
I won't be remotely surprised if that happens. Not one bit. Does the FO realize that no one is going to watch this ****? Don't you see that, old man? You have to make a commitment to the fans...if they think you don't give a ****, the average joe isn't going to watch the product after Game 3 or 4. The hardcore people like us on this site will still watch, grudgingly and unhappily, but the vast majority of casual fans aren't going to put time and money into it after awhile.

Being cheap is just going to cost them in the long run. Just as OrangeSe7en mentioned above. It will cost more in the end if we're 3-13. ****ing clowns.


While I agree with your view posted above its pretty clear Denver is going to bolster talent with high picks for a few years.

TheReverend
07-28-2011, 09:23 PM
Other needs?

Like RB? Because there aren't so many talented names left there either...

CB? We haven't even been rumored to have CALLED one worth a ****.

epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2011, 09:25 PM
Broncos unlikely to land Jenkins or Mebane

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15367581

If this is true, this is a crappy time to be a Broncos fan.

Denver is talking about putting Orton on the field again, and things have not changed in a year other than that the Broncos have actually gotten worse by cutting loose Gaffney, Graham, Buckhalter, Hill, and Bannan. D. Thomas is out hurt. Cox is about to be suspended. Not a single solid vet has been added to either the offensive or defensive line.

Ugh.

No reason to expect a different result than last year at this point.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-28-2011, 09:25 PM
Well he just called Nnamdi to the Jets. Don't see that anywhere else yet. Guess we'll find out soon.

Huh? Clayton and Schefter were talking about that 2 days ago.

snowspot66
07-28-2011, 09:26 PM
Huh? Clayton and Schefter were talking about that 2 days ago.

He said the deal is final. I haven't seen anybody else say that yet.

TheReverend
07-28-2011, 09:27 PM
You guys are blind.

John Fox is just gonna invent the 1-6 defense.

Just wait. You'll see.

epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2011, 09:27 PM
While I agree with your view posted above its pretty clear Denver is going to bolster talent with high picks for a few years.

Which means some unwatchable Broncos football for years, and then devoting football hope to the draft, which is a crapshoot.

SoCalBronco
07-28-2011, 09:28 PM
While I agree with your view posted above its pretty clear Denver is going to bolster talent with high picks for a few years.

That's the only way it seems we're going to get talent, which means its going to be a long and painful journey back to respectability.

Go on old man, keep swimmin in your money like Scrooge McDuck, you selfish ****ing POS.

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mkporter
07-28-2011, 09:29 PM
No reason to expect a different result than last year at this point.

While I mostly agree with you, Von Doom is a significant addition from last year.

epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2011, 09:30 PM
It's times like this when you wish Mark Cuban owned all of your favorite teams.

DBroncos4life
07-28-2011, 09:30 PM
You guys are blind.

John Fox is just gonna invent the 1-6 defense.

Just wait. You'll see.

I'm a big fan of the 2-5-4 D.

Baba Booey
07-28-2011, 09:30 PM
It's times like this when you wish Mark Cuban owned all of your favorite teams.

This.