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Inkana7
07-27-2011, 12:24 PM
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Filed to ESPN: Broncos traded WR Jabar Gaffney to Washington for DE jeremy Jarmon.

s0phr0syne
07-27-2011, 12:25 PM
From outta nowhere!

broncos-rock
07-27-2011, 12:25 PM
Hello Mr. Decker!!!!

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:26 PM
Great. We landed the moron that helmet hit Rogers in OT and has done nothing else in his career.

bronclvr
07-27-2011, 12:26 PM
I liked Gaff :(

ward63
07-27-2011, 12:26 PM
Jarmon is a young guy, but I don't understand the trade unless Royal is healthy and Decker is ready to play outside.

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:27 PM
He'll be a DT, though. So at least it's another human being at the spot.

BroncosSR
07-27-2011, 12:27 PM
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Filed to ESPN: Broncos traded WR Jabar Gaffney to Washington for DE jeremy Jarmon.

Now only if our 2010 1st round receiver wasn't made of glass.

alkemical
07-27-2011, 12:27 PM
I liked Gaff :(

Same, this is upside the head.

Dagmar
07-27-2011, 12:27 PM
http://i.tfster.com/cache/412.laxallstars.com/files/2010/12/Shocked2.gif

jhns
07-27-2011, 12:27 PM
It is because we are trading Orton for Marshall. Elway saw,me post that and jumped on making it happen.

Drunk Monkey
07-27-2011, 12:28 PM
Well lets hope Shannys D line talent evaluation holds true.

PRBronco
07-27-2011, 12:28 PM
295 according to wikipedia, guess he adds to our nonexistent DT depth.

SouthStndJunkie
07-27-2011, 12:28 PM
Jeremy Jarmon: 23 years old.

6'3 286 pounds from Kentucky.

11 career tackles with 0.5 career sacks.

broncosteven
07-27-2011, 12:29 PM
Decent move, I figured they were going to cut Gaff or trade him to Rams

Popcorn Sutton
07-27-2011, 12:29 PM
http://fantasyjudgment.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/lombardi-trophy.jpg

broncos-rock
07-27-2011, 12:30 PM
Rotational player at best and Decker is going to be a starter sooner than later!
Like it!

SouthStndJunkie
07-27-2011, 12:30 PM
I don't like the trade.

Gaffney had 732 and 875 yards for us in his 2 seasons as a Bronco and we are depleting what was a position of strength.

broncs2bowl
07-27-2011, 12:30 PM
Why couldn't we just get Haynesworth :( Instead of this turd for the value of Gaffney which is pretty decent

Dagmar
07-27-2011, 12:30 PM
Elway called him a DT. With Lloyd, Royal and Decker think it's a good move myself.

ward63
07-27-2011, 12:31 PM
This could free up money to get Mebane as well. I really liked Jabar though. Solid guy on and off the field.

Kaylore
07-27-2011, 12:31 PM
http://i.tfster.com/cache/412.laxallstars.com/files/2010/12/Shocked2.gif

:~ohyah!:

Sums up my thoughts.

Drunk Monkey
07-27-2011, 12:32 PM
Jarmon is due $480K this year vs Gaff's 2.4. This was a $ move.

Bob's your Information Minister
07-27-2011, 12:32 PM
Elway's genius at work. LMAO

BroncoBuff
07-27-2011, 12:33 PM
He'll be a DT, though. So at least it's another human being at the spot.

Yup. Don't overrate Gaffney, he was a McD guy anyway.

alkemical
07-27-2011, 12:33 PM
I don't like the trade.

Gaffney had 732 and 875 yards for us in his 2 seasons as a Bronco and we are depleting what was a position of strength.

agreed.

Lev Vyvanse
07-27-2011, 12:33 PM
295 according to wikipedia, guess he adds to our nonexistent DT depth.

That sounded small so I made him 325.

Bronco Boy
07-27-2011, 12:33 PM
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Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 12:33 PM
What's it gonna take to get a DT that weighs more than 290 lbs?

yerner
07-27-2011, 12:34 PM
Elway's genius at work. LMAO

Don't you have a cousin you should be ****ing? Gaff was going to get cut because of salary anyway.

Rabb
07-27-2011, 12:34 PM
I do enjoy that we actually get a warm body at a position everyone is crying about, and people are crying about it

I like Gaff also, but this makes sense for money and could help the line

DBroncos4life
07-27-2011, 12:35 PM
What's it gonna take to get a DT that weighs more than 290 lbs?

More IHops

BroncoBuff
07-27-2011, 12:36 PM
I don't like the trade.

Gaffney had 732 and 875 yards for us in his 2 seasons as a Bronco and we are depleting what was a position of strength.You're forgetting this is a different offense, very few 3-wr sets. It's a different defense too.

Rabb
07-27-2011, 12:36 PM
I am hoping this means, they are working some pre-big FA magic to get some cap room

Rulon Velvet Jones
07-27-2011, 12:37 PM
WRs are easily replaced. I like it.

broncos-rock
07-27-2011, 12:37 PM
I do enjoy that we actually get a warm body at a position everyone is crying about, and people are crying about it

I like Gaff also, but this makes sense for money and could help the line

Nicely said!

tsiguy96
07-27-2011, 12:37 PM
this opens up some more cash and competition at DT spot, for when denver gets mebane...

Bob's your Information Minister
07-27-2011, 12:38 PM
You guys are going back to the stone age on offense. Should really present problems for defensive coordinators.

SouthStndJunkie
07-27-2011, 12:38 PM
You're forgetting this is a different offense, very few 3-wr sets. It's a different defense too.

It all depends how well Jeremy Jarmon plays for us.

There are plenty of players like him we could sign in free agency without having to give up a proven and productive wide receiver.

mkporter
07-27-2011, 12:39 PM
I give the trade an overwhelming, "meh." Really excited to see us do something, though. I was starting to get concerned that EFX didn't get the message about the lockout being over.

DBroncos4life
07-27-2011, 12:40 PM
Skins got Stallworth as well.

TonyR
07-27-2011, 12:40 PM
I do enjoy that we actually get a warm body at a position everyone is crying about, and people are crying about it

I like Gaff also, but this makes sense for money and could help the line

You beat me to it. People are impossible to please. We give up a #3 receiver who looked better than he is in McD's offense for a young, inexpensive player at a position of huge need and people complain. Perspective, people.

Traveler
07-27-2011, 12:40 PM
What's it gonna take to get a DT that weighs more than 290 lbs?

It would really be nice to understand the grand plan is for this team concern the DL.

Is Jarmon replacement for McBean? I've read that Fox wants lighter, quicker linemen, but sheesh!

We've really gotta get some beef in there because towards the end of the year, most lighter weight lineman are worn down as the bigger, more physical lineman become more dominant.

srphoenix
07-27-2011, 12:40 PM
Sounds like Jarmon played 5 tech at Kentucky so although his stats might look pretty unimpressive hopefully he ends up being a decent player.

here's the tweet about it:

PostBroncos (http://twitter.com/#%21/PostBroncos) Lindsay Jones



Jarmon played end in Washington's 3-4. Sounds like he'll play inside, though, in the Broncos' 4-3. (6-3, 286)

Rock Chalk
07-27-2011, 12:40 PM
WRs are easily replaced. I like it.

God remember the time when that wasn't the case? Trotting out Rod Smith on two bum ankles as our best receiver and Ashley Lelie as our second best?

Inkana7
07-27-2011, 12:40 PM
Decker, y'all.

RunSilentRunDeep
07-27-2011, 12:42 PM
I think he may be playing defensive end. Denver is light there as well. He came out of college as a DE and the Redskins tried to make him a linebacker. He's the supplemental-draft, third-round version of Robert Ayers. I'll take a chance on a DE that did well in the SEC.

Rabb
07-27-2011, 12:42 PM
I give the trade an overwhelming, "meh." Really excited to see us do something, though. I was starting to get concerned that EFX didn't get the message about the lockout being over.

never mind that we made the first trade this year so far

Popcorn Sutton
07-27-2011, 12:42 PM
It all depends how well Jeremy Jarmon plays for us.

There are plenty of players like him we could sign in free agency without having to give up a proven and productive wide receiver.

My guess is Gaff was gone one way or another. Is it more cap friendly to trade?

ICON
07-27-2011, 12:42 PM
Jarmon got screwed because they switched to a 3-4, But he still has talent and has shown improvement. They tried to make Jarmon fit and it didn't work out, great for us he gets to go to a 4-3 team that can really utilize his talents.

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:43 PM
You beat me to it. People are impossible to please. We give up a #3 receiver who looked better than he is in McD's offense for a young, inexpensive player at a position of huge need and people complain. Perspective, people.

...because he couldn't get on the field over an all star like Kedric Golston.

Perspective, people.

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:43 PM
God remember the time when that wasn't the case? Trotting out Rod Smith on two bum ankles as our best receiver and Ashley Lelie as our second best?

Glen Martinez says hi

tsiguy96
07-27-2011, 12:43 PM
never mind that we made the first trade this year so far

denver has been outbid on 2 high profile players, charles johnson and D-williams, as well. players that carolina couldnt afford to lose.

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:44 PM
never mind that we made the first trade this year so far

...what? lol

Rulon Velvet Jones
07-27-2011, 12:44 PM
@MichaelLombardi - @JasonLaCanfora smart move for both, Denver was going to cut Gaffney had they not traded him

broncocalijohn
07-27-2011, 12:44 PM
This now puts the fire under Royal and Decker to step up and perform as we expect. Only thing that scares me is this and Thomas being injured. By any chance Dicky Lyons still looking for a job or is he assisting manager to Kasper?

tsiguy96
07-27-2011, 12:44 PM
...what? lol

true story.
mcnabb trade isnt official.

Rabb
07-27-2011, 12:45 PM
...what? lol

this is the first trade so far, what is hard to understand about that

Mogulseeker
07-27-2011, 12:45 PM
What's it gonna take to get a DT that weighs more than 290 lbs?

I don't want a DT over 290 in a 4-3 system. 285 is about right.

Drek
07-27-2011, 12:45 PM
Jarmon was taken in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft in 2009, the only player selected that year, after testing positive for a banned substance heading into his senior year. Multiple reports name the substance to be an over the counter supplement and supposedly came highly recommended by Kentucky's coaching staff despite the suspension. He was 21 years old then and had posted 17.5 sacks in 31 starts with Kentucky.

His career to this point is still a mystery. A 3rd rounder in the supplemental draft is high. He's a straight up 4-3 type by the scouting reports I saw so not playing much last year makes sense, and as a 21 year old rookie you can understand the lack of on-field time in '09. Some legitimate talent is supposed to be there but he has had very little opportunity to show it.

I can see the positives to moving Gaffney as he's too old to be a mainstay in our otherwise young offense (except Lloyd, who was a pro-bowler last year). In that light his cap number is too high for a guy who would otherwise take a spot away from a young guy we want to put to the test (Decker I'd assume). Freeing up $2M and getting a boom/bust type project for the interior DL makes sense.

They absolutely need to trade Orton if this is the approach though. He's completely useless to us if they're embracing the youth movement and his cap number would keep us out of contention on young FAs who can do more good for us long term (like Mebane).

BroncoBuff
07-27-2011, 12:45 PM
You guys are going back to the stone age on offense. Should really present problems for defensive coordinators.

You're right, good point. Same way it presented problems all through the 90s.

srphoenix
07-27-2011, 12:46 PM
MaxBroncos (http://twitter.com/#%21/MaxBroncos) MaxBroncos



Brandon Lloyd thought it was "sad" that Gaffney was traded. Thought Gaffney was best WR he's ever played with.

hehe, Lloyd obviously hasn't played with too many WR's...

Drunk Monkey
07-27-2011, 12:46 PM
When is D Thomas expected to be back?

Stagger Lee
07-27-2011, 12:46 PM
If he was great in the SEC, he'll be an absolute stud here in Denver, because everybody knows that the SEC > NFL.

mkporter
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
never mind that we made the first trade this year so far

Your facts do not concern me! I've been waiting for 3 months for any kind of real football news. I want action!

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
true story.
mcnabb trade isnt official.

since when?

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 12:47 PM
@MichaelLombardi - @JasonLaCanfora smart move for both, Denver was going to cut Gaffney had they not traded him

Cut our 2nd most productive WR each of the last two years? I don't see how unless he was completely unwilling to rework his contract even a little, which I doubt considering that's what Washington is going to make him do.

Unreal.

underrated29
07-27-2011, 12:48 PM
You guys are going back to the stone age on offense. Should really present problems for defensive coordinators.



What dont you aks knowshon moreno what he thinks about that?

DarkHorse
07-27-2011, 12:48 PM
I like the move - I think it clearly signals the team is ready to put Decker on the field a lot more this year.

TonyR
07-27-2011, 12:48 PM
...because he couldn't get on the field over an all star like Kedric Golston.

Perspective, people.

Gaffney was likely to get cut anyway. And they play a 3-4 in D.C. You should know both of these things.

alkemical
07-27-2011, 12:48 PM
When is D Thomas expected to be back?

After the chick passes out.

strafen
07-27-2011, 12:48 PM
Championship!

Houshyamama
07-27-2011, 12:49 PM
You guys are going back to the stone age on offense. Should really present problems for defensive coordinators.

your mom's a whore

DarkHorse
07-27-2011, 12:50 PM
since when?

From what I understand no trades or signings are "official" until Friday at 6pm. Even if that isn't the case the Mcnabb trade is awaiting his restructuring, so if he doesn't restructure it isn't official.

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:51 PM
Gaffney was likely to get cut anyway. And they play a 3-4 in D.C. You should know both of these things.

That has what to do with ANYTHING?

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 12:51 PM
This is a superb trade. Who needs WR's anyway considering we're now a running team with no running back. Gotta love them Broncos. It's been turd all the way since good old Mike left.

Popcorn Sutton
07-27-2011, 12:53 PM
This is a superb trade. Who needs WR's anyway considering we're now a running team with no running back. Gotta love them Broncos. It's been turd all the way since good old Mike left.

Ha. Lendale White is going to kill it!!

Drunk Monkey
07-27-2011, 12:53 PM
After the chick passes out.

I laughed, I shouldn't have but I did.

mkporter
07-27-2011, 12:53 PM
That has what to do with ANYTHING?


I'm guessing the point is that perhaps the gentleman from Washington was miscast in the 3-4, and well be much better suited to a 4-3. I have no idea if this will be the case, but it is relevant.

wolf754life
07-27-2011, 12:53 PM
This is a superb trade. Who needs WR's anyway considering we're now a running team with no running back. Gotta love them Broncos. It's been turd all the way since good old Mike left.

wow fans like you remind me how spoiled we are to be broncos fans.

mike had to go, mc D was an epic bust/mistake bowlen made, gambled on young greatness and lost, it happens, move on, fox will bring fundamentals and stability.............

razorwire77
07-27-2011, 12:54 PM
I'll be interested to see what Matt Willis does too. Kid was stretching the field pretty well in the preseason last year.

TonyR
07-27-2011, 12:54 PM
That has what to do with ANYTHING?

LOL You're all over the place today.

broncocalijohn
07-27-2011, 12:54 PM
If he was great in the SEC, he'll be an absolute stud here in Denver, because everybody knows that the SEC > NFL.

You have been here since yesterday and already have the MacGruder line down pat. Alright, what is your official moniker here at the Mane? I call alternate account.

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:54 PM
wow fans like you remind me how spoiled we are to be broncos fans.

mike had to go, mc D was an epic bust/mistake bowlen made, gambled on young greatness and lost, it happens, move on, fox will bring fundamentals and stability.............

Stability and a running game is your argument?

That was kinda HIS argument too.

BroncoBuff
07-27-2011, 12:55 PM
What part of "Gaffney's numbers were over-inflated because McD force fed him" don't you understand?

alkemical
07-27-2011, 12:55 PM
I laughed, I shouldn't have but I did.

LOL, good - it was meant too - :D

strafen
07-27-2011, 12:55 PM
This is a superb trade. Who needs WR's anyway considering we're now a running team with no running back. Gotta love them Broncos. It's been turd all the way since good old Mike left.WR is the least of our worries. That's a position we're set and have plenty of...
As far as DL goes...we're going to have to get quality amongst quantity when everything is said and done.
Bring a bunch, let them compete, and let's see who emerges...

That One Guy
07-27-2011, 12:56 PM
We traded Gaff for a DT? Awesome.

Now we can trade MacGruder for a CB and we can have the Mane back!

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 12:56 PM
LOL You're all over the place today.

Yeah I don't understand why you're saying we can't hold lack of performance at an extremely similar position against him...?

He can't succeed against Kedric Golston, but hey, we need him here!

TonyR
07-27-2011, 12:56 PM
wow fans like you remind me how spoiled we are to be broncos fans...

It also points to how talent starved a team is when people are complaining about Jabar Gaffney getting traded away.

BroncoInferno
07-27-2011, 12:57 PM
If Royal, Decker and Thomas were consistently healthy and dependable, or if Jarmon were anything more than a body to toss out on the field, I'd be fine with the move. Unfortunately, none of those things are true. We will miss Gaffney, IMHO :(

Rulon Velvet Jones
07-27-2011, 12:59 PM
The Seahawks reportedly have competition from the Broncos and Saints for free agent DT Brandon Mebane.
ESPN's John Clayton says the Broncos are "trying to get Mebane out of Seattle," so they appear to be the more aggressive of the two suitors. The Seahawks are fighting hard to keep Mebane.

snowspot66
07-27-2011, 12:59 PM
Gaffney is 30 years old and not far from 31. It's pretty obvious we aren't likely to win the Super Bowl this year. This other kid seems to have legitimate potential to pay off. I'd rather take a chance with him than watch Gaffney get old and get nothing out of it even if losing Gaffney stings a little bit right now.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:00 PM
I dont have a problem trading Gaffney for value. This is not value IMO.

As for the WR situation, last I heard Thomas will never be the same player, maybe NFL medicine has taken a twist since the 30% successful return rate.

That One Guy
07-27-2011, 01:01 PM
Gaffney is 30 years old and not far from 31. It's pretty obvious we aren't likely to win the Super Bowl this year. This other kid seems to have legitimate potential to pay off. I'd rather take a chance with him than watch Gaffney get old even if losing Gaffney stings a little bit right now.

Agreed.

Gaff was a solid role player. Why not take the chance?

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 01:02 PM
I dont have a problem trading Gaffney for value. This is not value IMO.

As for the WR situation, last I heard Thomas will never be the same player, maybe NFL medicine has taken a twist since the 30% successful return rate.

Wait wait wait...

Are you trying to tell me that trading a starter for a guy WAY less qualified than Ryan McBean isn't good value?

GTFO!

Stagger Lee
07-27-2011, 01:02 PM
You have been here since yesterday and already have the MacGruder line down pat. Alright, what is your official moniker here at the Mane? I call alternate account.

No alt. account, I just signed up yesterday, but I read that entire train wreck of a thread. Thats the one that convinced me to finally stop lurking and join in the fun.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:02 PM
wow fans like you remind me how spoiled we are to be broncos fans.

mike had to go, mc D was an epic bust/mistake bowlen made, gambled on young greatness and lost, it happens, move on, fox will bring fundamentals and stability.............

What do you mean, like the stability he brought in Carolina last year???

TonyR
07-27-2011, 01:03 PM
Some Skins fans make some positive-ish comments about Jarmon under the PFT post linked below...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/27/nfls-first-trade-broncos-send-gaffney-to-redskins-for-jarmon/

Kaylore
07-27-2011, 01:03 PM
I dont have a problem trading Gaffney for value. This is not value IMO.

As for the WR situation, last I heard Thomas will never be the same player, maybe NFL medicine has taken a twist since the 30% successful return rate.

Well if we were going to cut him anyway, this just ensures both teams don't have to get in bidding war for either players' services.

That One Guy
07-27-2011, 01:03 PM
No alt. account, I just signed up yesterday, but I read that entire train wreck of a thread. Thats the one that convinced me to finally stop lurking and join in the fun.

LOL

What a welcome to the Mane...

Steve Sewell
07-27-2011, 01:03 PM
We have Lloyd, Thomas, and Decker. No need for Gaffney, although I liked him as a player. Good trade.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:04 PM
Wait wait wait...

Are you trying to tell me that trading a starter for a guy WAY less qualified than Ryan McBean isn't good value?

GTFO!

I cant Rev. There's has to be a voice of unreason on here. 36 hours in and we still haven't spent a dime. Infact we've saved $2m. Tight drunk ****.:D

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 01:05 PM
I cant Rev. There's has to be a voice of unreason on here. 36 hours in and we still haven't spent a dime. Infact we've saved $2m. Tight drunk ****.:D

You got the sarcasm right?

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 01:05 PM
Well if we were going to cut him anyway, this just ensures both teams don't have to get in bidding war for either players' services.

It's scary that we were going to outright cut a guy who performed extremely well for us the past two years, better than 90% of the rest of the roster, and he was only going to make around $2.5 mil. It's not like he was making $10 mil or anything. I don't get it. $2.5 mil for a starter that produced is nothing.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:05 PM
Anyone counting on Thomas must like long odds.

Lestat
07-27-2011, 01:05 PM
i don't have a problem with this move at all. you have Lloyd,Royal,Decker and Thomas once he gets back(and hopefully stays healthy). you save money against the cap and bring in a need in DT whose also young.

this could/should allow us to snag Mebane or Franklin with the extra money saved.

ChrisToker
07-27-2011, 01:05 PM
He'll be a DT, though. So at least it's another human being at the spot.

Sad thats all we can really root for at this point

TonyR
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
I dont have a problem trading Gaffney for value.

LOL You seriously think Gaffney has a lot of value? He's a 30+, journeyman, #2/#3 WR. Denver clears $ and gets a cheap, young player with some upside in return.

Stagger Lee
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
LOL

What a welcome to the Mane...

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I should laugh, cry, or just take a shower.

mkporter
07-27-2011, 01:06 PM
What do you mean, like the stability he brought in Carolina last year???

If you think last year had anything to do with John Fox, then you aren't paying attention. Last year was Richardson's cash grab year in anticipation of the lockout.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:08 PM
If you think last year had anything to do with John Fox, then you aren't paying attention. Last year was Richardson's cash grab year in anticipation of the lockout.

Well if it was about the cash grab why is Fox targetting all of Carolina's free agents??? If he doesn't rate their players why the **** bother.

phibacka31
07-27-2011, 01:09 PM
If it means we get Mebane, landri/franklin, and another rb to add to Moreno than awesome! I like gaf but we've got other guys

yerner
07-27-2011, 01:09 PM
Living here in Redskinland I've been following Jarmon's career a bit. He was really young when he got into the league and has shown some flashes on the field but wasn't strong or mature enough yet to get major playing time. Being only 23, the book hasn't been written on this guy yet. He may not work out, but if Gaffney was going to be a cap casualty anyway, Jarmon is an intriguing guy that might benefit from going to a 4-3 and getting coached by Fox.

Drunk Monkey
07-27-2011, 01:09 PM
Anyone counting on Thomas must like long odds.

speaking of, when is he expected back?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-27-2011, 01:10 PM
Elway's genius at work. LMAO

Don't talk with your mouth full. Since your mouth is always full, just shut the **** up.

broncocalijohn
07-27-2011, 01:10 PM
Yeah, I wasn't sure if I should laugh, cry, or just take a shower.

Gun to the head might have been easier.

I know a few don't like the move and I totally understand. Lloyd is our primo option and it drops big time after that. Royal hasn't been anything close to his rookie season and Decker barely played last year. At tight end, McD screwed us up by getting Quinn who had one catch last year. McMicheals is getting old but I saw Chargers picking him up.

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 01:10 PM
If it means we get Mebane, landri/franklin, and another rb to add to Moreno than awesome! I like gaf but we've got other guys

We were already $20 odd million under the cap before the move. If another $2 mil is the difference in making or breaking the scenario above, we need better cap guys.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:10 PM
LOL You seriously think Gaffney has a lot of value? He's a 30+, journeyman, #2/#3 WR. Denver clears $ and gets a cheap, young player with some upside in return.

In reality it depends on how you value Jarmon. I think he's dog****, you obviously have seen something in the last 2 seasons to rate him higher. Gaffney was also a locker room leader and a dependable outlet for Tebow.

BroncoBuff
07-27-2011, 01:11 PM
speaking of, when is he expected back?

Josh made the mistake of drafting two WRs with leg injuries ... 50/50 was about what you could expect.

mkporter
07-27-2011, 01:11 PM
Well if it was about the cash grab why is Fox targetting all of Carolina's free agents??? If he doesn't rate their players why the **** bother.

Having two players worth trying get does not mean their team was good. It means they had at least two above average players.

TonyR
07-27-2011, 01:12 PM
He may not work out, but if Gaffney was going to be a cap casualty anyway, Jarmon is an intriguing guy that might benefit from going to a 4-3 and getting coached by Fox.

Are you possibly suggesting that one should trust John Fox on a defensive player over the meldown drama queens on the Mane?!?

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:12 PM
If they're trying to get Mebane out of Seattle it's simple. Open your ****ing wallet Pat.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:13 PM
Having two players worth trying get does not mean their team was good. It means they had at least two above average players.

Two??? Last I heard there was interest in all 5 of their top FA's from us. Although since then Davis has been taken off the UFA list.

bowtown
07-27-2011, 01:13 PM
Wait wait wait...

Are you trying to tell me that trading a starter for a guy WAY less qualified than Ryan McBean isn't good value?

GTFO!

You really need to settle down. Vickerson is going to make everyone around him better. We got this.

BroncoBuff
07-27-2011, 01:13 PM
If they're trying to get Mebane out of Seattle it's simple. Open your ****ing wallet Pat.

Seahawks want to keep him, but he doesn't want to stay.

Bob's your Information Minister
07-27-2011, 01:14 PM
Are you possibly suggesting that one should trust John Fox on a defensive player over the meldown drama queens on the Mane?!?

You do realize that John Fox sucks, right?

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 01:14 PM
Are you possibly suggesting that one should trust John Fox on a defensive player over the meldown drama queens on the Mane?!?

My bad. 11 tackles in 2 years is just what we need.

That One Guy
07-27-2011, 01:15 PM
Is everyone forgetting the part where they were going to cut Gaff if they didn't trade him?

A camp body is better than nothing.

broncos-rock
07-27-2011, 01:15 PM
I_PeterKing: Love the Gaffney trade for Washington. Sure-handed possession guy, excellent route-runner. Brady loved him. [via Twitter]

Okay it must be a good trade its got the King curse!

That One Guy
07-27-2011, 01:16 PM
You really need to settle down. Vickerson is going to make everyone around him better. We got this.

LOL

You actually made the new jet/bong/water pic.

snowspot66
07-27-2011, 01:16 PM
People bitched and moaned when we brought in Gaffney now it's the end of the world when we trade him for a kid with potential.

24champ
07-27-2011, 01:17 PM
If they're trying to get Mebane out of Seattle it's simple. Open your ****ing wallet Pat.

We're not getting Mebane. Everyone is just setting themselves up for a letdown by pinning the hopes on an above average DT.

yerner
07-27-2011, 01:17 PM
Are you possibly suggesting that one should trust John Fox on a defensive player over the meldown drama queens on the Mane?!?


I am. I think we're so used to the Broncos never developing defensive lineman once they get in the building that we expect that the new coaches will follow suit. I'm expecting this to change and it should be alot of fun to watch marginal guys turn to good productive players.

TonyR
07-27-2011, 01:17 PM
In reality it depends on how you value Jarmon.

If they were planning to cut Gaffney anyway than Jarmon really only needs to be a body they give a shot in camp. I liked Gaff, he did a nice job for us. But I don't think losing him is all that big of a deal for this team. Time to give the younger guys a shot while rebuilding.

phibacka31
07-27-2011, 01:17 PM
People b****ed and moaned when we brought in Gaffney now it's the end of the world when we trade him for a kid with potential.

Welcome to the orangemane

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 01:17 PM
Is everyone forgetting the part where they were going to cut Gaff if they didn't trade him?

A camp body is better than nothing.

Listen, I actually DISlike Gaffney... but why would they cut him? His price tag is low and he produced above decently. Sounds like bull**** to me.

NFLBRONCO
07-27-2011, 01:17 PM
WR is the least of our worries. That's a position we're set and have plenty of...
As far as DL goes...we're going to have to get quality amongst quantity when everything is said and done.
Bring a bunch, let them compete, and let's see who emerges...

While I agree with you a bit a strength can become a weakness FAST if injury bug hits. Remember the year it hit our RB core hard. Sounds like they were going cut him anyways so its a great trade. The only issue I have was he is healthy some of our guys aren't. I don't expect DMT to play in 11.

bowtown
07-27-2011, 01:17 PM
LOL

You actually made the new jet/bong/water pic.

I'm not a man of empty promises.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:19 PM
Unless he beefs up he wont be playing DT here anyway, only 286, looks more like a SDE to me.

BroncoBuff
07-27-2011, 01:19 PM
My bad. 11 tackles in 2 years is just what we need.

DTs don't rack up big tackle numbers. Vikes' Pat Williams has never had more than 4 in a season.

TonyR
07-27-2011, 01:19 PM
We're not getting Mebane.

Sadly you're probably right.

That One Guy
07-27-2011, 01:19 PM
Listen, I actually DISlike Gaffney... but why would they cut him? His price tag is low and he produced above decently. Sounds like bull**** to me.

Ahh...

I just accepted it as truth. Maybe that's why I'm more accepting of it (and just because I don't know anything about the Jarmon guy, very mildly hopeful).

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 01:20 PM
Listen, I actually DISlike Gaffney... but why would they cut him? His price tag is low and he produced above decently. Sounds like bull**** to me.

This x 1,000

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 01:20 PM
DTs don't rack up big tackle numbers. Vikes' Pat Williams has never had more than 4 in a season.

This is a joke, right?

He has like 600 in his career.

http://www.nfl.com/player/patwilliams/2503712/profile

bowtown
07-27-2011, 01:20 PM
DTs don't rack up big tackle numbers. Vikes' Pat Williams has never had more than 4 in a season.

Say what?

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 01:21 PM
Unless he beefs up he wont be playing DT here anyway, only 286, looks more like a SDE to me.

Vickerson is down to 285.

So we now have zero DTs on the roster?!?

Bob's your Information Minister
07-27-2011, 01:23 PM
You're right, good point. Same way it presented problems all through the 90s.

What the hell are you talking about?

The current Broncos are about as far away from the 90s Broncos as you can get.

24champ
07-27-2011, 01:25 PM
Sadly you're probably right.

Pat isn't going to open up his wallet for a DT, never has.

eddie mac
07-27-2011, 01:27 PM
Vickerson is down to 285.

So we now have zero DTs on the roster?!?

I doubt very much that he'll be playing at that weight in a couple of weeks time.

BroncoBuff
07-27-2011, 01:27 PM
My mistake on Pat Williams, meant to say game not season. But DTs don't rack up LB-like tackle numbers, plus the kid was a 20-year old rookie, what do you expect?

ward63
07-27-2011, 01:30 PM
Pat isn't going to open up his wallet for a DT, never has.

Somebody forgot about Ihop

diehardbroncosfan
07-27-2011, 01:32 PM
I don't know anything about Jarmon, but one thing this does do is take us another step down the youth movement road, freeing up playing time for Decker, Royal, Willis, and Thomas whenever he gets back. We're about to actually start developing our own young talent instead of bringing in over the hill vet free agents. Nothing wrong with that.

Gutless Drunk
07-27-2011, 01:33 PM
What's the market like for long snappers this year? Do you guys think we could package Lonnie Paxton and Russ Hochstein for something good?

Could clear about $2,000,000

snowspot66
07-27-2011, 01:34 PM
Worst case scenario the kid does **** for us for two years while Gaffney gets older. Since it is highly unlikely our Super Bowl chances rest on the shoulders of Jabar Gaffney I think there's a small chance we'll survive this trade.

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 01:35 PM
My mistake on Pat Williams, meant to say game not season. But DTs don't rack up LB-like tackle numbers, plus the kid was a 20-year old rookie, what do you expect?

You're wrong there, too. He has plenty of 4+ tackle games. 7 in 2003 alone.

http://www.nfl.com/player/patwilliams/2503712/gamelogs?season=2003

jhns
07-27-2011, 01:38 PM
Gaffney is nothing special and I don't know the guy we traded for. It will be hard to form an opinion on this trade any time soon.

DenverBrit
07-27-2011, 01:41 PM
Some Skins fans make some positive-ish comments about Jarmon under the PFT post linked below...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/27/nfls-first-trade-broncos-send-gaffney-to-redskins-for-jarmon/

Favorite post from the link.

The last time the Broncos and Redskins swapped players, Champ Bailey became a hall of famer and Clinton Portis started dressing like a clown. :spit:

DBroncos4life
07-27-2011, 01:42 PM
Gaffney is nothing special and I don't know the guy we traded for. It will be hard to form an opinion on this trade any time soon.

Thanks for the ground breaking post then. :thumbsup:

Houshyamama
07-27-2011, 01:54 PM
Gaffney is nothing special and I don't know the guy we traded for. It will be hard to form an opinion on this trade any time soon.

What is the purpose of this post?

cutthemdown
07-27-2011, 01:58 PM
Gaffney wasn't going to play much because we want Decker to get a chance. We need bodies on the dline so it makes sense. Good trade for skins they get someone who can play 3rd wr, fill in at number 2 if desperate. Probably wont solve our problems though but at least a move to get bigger upfront.

jhns
07-27-2011, 01:58 PM
What is the purpose of this post?

I'm telling you what your opinion should be. Duh.

Houshyamama
07-27-2011, 01:59 PM
I'm telling you what your opinion should be. Duh.

Just checking.

That One Guy
07-27-2011, 02:00 PM
LOL

I'm definitely going to start making more "I have no opinion on this topic" posts.

Lev Vyvanse
07-27-2011, 02:03 PM
I have an opinion but I'm not going to share it.

SouthStndJunkie
07-27-2011, 02:03 PM
LOL

I'm definitely going to start making more "I have no opinion on this topic" posts.

Don't be like Marvin:

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jhns
07-27-2011, 02:05 PM
LOL

I'm definitely going to start making more "I have no opinion on this topic" posts.

What was the purpose of this post?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-27-2011, 02:06 PM
What was the purpose of this post?

To make fun of you, I think.

Come on, jhns. Enjoy the ridicule.

DBroncos4life
07-27-2011, 02:07 PM
What was the purpose of this post?

I'm getting an 2nd opinion soon

24champ
07-27-2011, 02:08 PM
Somebody forgot about Ihop


Great, there's ONE DT in 30 years that Pat opened the checkbook for...

jhns
07-27-2011, 02:09 PM
To make fun of you, I think.

Come on, jhns. Enjoy the ridicule.

What was the purpose of this post?

It will be hard asking that after every pointless post on the mane.

No, no ond can ridicule their superiors. You all are going to hell.

Also, with the reaction I get when I do post opinions, most should be happy I don't have one.

Houshyamama
07-27-2011, 02:09 PM
What was the purpose of this post?

We wouldn't make fun of you if we didn't like you. Unless you're Bob, then your mother is a whore and no one likes you.

jhns
07-27-2011, 02:12 PM
We wouldn't make fun of you if we didn't like you. Unless you're Bob, then your mother is a whore and no one likes you.

It's okay. I do the same to others.

broncosteven
07-27-2011, 02:12 PM
Great, there's ONE DT in 30 years that Pat opened the checkbook for...

Maybe 13 years, he did pop for Neil Smith.

Lev Vyvanse
07-27-2011, 02:14 PM
Great, there's ONE DT in 30 years that Pat opened the checkbook for...

Chester McGlockton
Daryl Gardener
Dewayne Robertson
Jamal Williams
Trevor Pryce

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 02:26 PM
Chester McGlockton
Daryl Gardener
Dewayne Robertson
Jamal Williams
Trevor Pryce

Robertson and Williams were both paid less than $5 mil to play for us and were both dumped when due bonuses.....so the checkbook was never really opened for them.

McGlockton never made more than $2.5 mil in one year with us.

tsiguy96
07-27-2011, 02:32 PM
good lord, shanahan is going crazy.

santana moss
jabar gaffney
donte stallworth
BRANDON STOKELY

24champ
07-27-2011, 02:33 PM
Maybe 13 years, he did pop for Neil Smith.

Neil Smith took a discount to play with Elway.

srphoenix
07-27-2011, 02:36 PM
good lord, shanahan is going crazy.

santana moss
jabar gaffney
donte stallworth
BRANDON STOKELY

If we play them in the next couple years it will be fun to see the permanent 5 wide spread offense against our 1Dl 6LB Defense

jhns
07-27-2011, 02:37 PM
Neil Smith gave me cheese sticks and an autographed yahtzee card once.

WolfpackGuy
07-27-2011, 02:38 PM
Neil Smith took a discount to play with Elway.

Elway also restructured to bring in Smith.

I think Neil's still out of breath from that fumble return TD against MIA in the 98 playoffs.

Lev Vyvanse
07-27-2011, 02:40 PM
Neil Smith took a discount to play with Elway.

Wasn't he a DE?

broncosteven
07-27-2011, 02:40 PM
Neil Smith gave me cheese sticks and an autographed yahtzee card once.

I would love to play Yahtzee and eat cheese sticks with Gene!

Stagger Lee
07-27-2011, 02:41 PM
good lord, shanahan is going crazy.

santana moss
jabar gaffney
donte stallworth
BRANDON STOKELY

Damn that's a mess of WRs for a team that has no QB. Shanny loves his offense. Can't say he hasn't been consistent I guess.

broncosteven
07-27-2011, 02:42 PM
Wasn't he a DE?

Maha Tanavassa then.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 02:46 PM
"Whatever my opinion is, I'm sure not going to share it here with anyone." - Jhiz

"If only!" - Everyone else

bendog
07-27-2011, 02:47 PM
I'm torn between thinking Shanny's crazy or getting fired with Bowlen pissed him off so much with NFL owners that he's making it his personal mission to drive Snyder to suicide.

jhns
07-27-2011, 02:48 PM
"Whatever my opinion is, I'm sure not going to share it here with anyone." - Jhiz

"If only!" - Everyone else

That isn't even close to what I said. You fail.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 02:50 PM
That isn't even close to what I said. You fail.

Poor troll doesn't like being trolled.


Shocking.

No. You fail.

jhns
07-27-2011, 02:51 PM
Poor troll doesn't like being trolled.


Shocking.

No. You fail.

Poor troll doesn't realize that trolling doesn't work when you don't make sense. The others had a point. You are just dumb.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 02:52 PM
Poor troll doesn't realize that trolling doesn't work when you don't make sense. The others had a point. You are just dumb.

"You fail."

baja
07-27-2011, 02:54 PM
I think you guys were happier in lockout mode

jhns
07-27-2011, 02:55 PM
"You fail."

You aren't ready to play with the big boys yet. Now go sit down.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 02:56 PM
You aren't ready to play with the big boys yet. Now go sit down.

failed again

Houshyamama
07-27-2011, 02:56 PM
jhns and ColoradoDarin need to report to training camp immediately:

http://cdn.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/kamp-kumbaya-e1294234287158.jpeg

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 02:58 PM
jhns and ColoradoDarin need to report to training camp immediately:

http://cdn.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/kamp-kumbaya-e1294234287158.jpeg

Win

jhns
07-27-2011, 02:59 PM
failed again

You make this so easy.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 03:02 PM
You make this so easy.

Since you're a simpleton, I'm trying. Good thing I'm succeeding.



PS Sorry for using multisyllabic words.

jhns
07-27-2011, 03:05 PM
Since you're a simpleton, I'm trying. Good thing I'm succeeding.



PS Sorry for using multisyllabic words.

Succeeding at showing your inability to read or think for yourself? That is something you are proud of?

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 03:06 PM
Succeeding at showing your inability to read or think for yourself? That is something you are proud of?

Took you a little longer to come up with that one.

Again,

Sorry. For. The. Big. Words.

Houshyamama
07-27-2011, 03:09 PM
http://southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com/shared/sps/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/import/season_05/sp_0503_09_v6.jpg?width=480

jhns
07-27-2011, 03:09 PM
Took you a little longer to come up with that one.

Again,

Sorry. For. The. Big. Words.

I would guess that the inability to put a sentence together is related to the inability to read.

broncosteven
07-27-2011, 03:10 PM
I would guess that the inability to put a sentence together is related to the inability to read.

I love when dudes on the Internets accuse each other of not being able to read!

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 03:11 PM
I would guess that the inability to put a sentence together is related to the inability to read.

You really shouldn't put yourself down like that. One day you'll be able to read.

bendog
07-27-2011, 03:12 PM
I love when dudes on the Internets accuse each other of not being able to read!

I don't understand!?

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 03:13 PM
I don't understand!?

I have no opinion on that.

jhns
07-27-2011, 03:13 PM
I love when dudes on the Internets accuse each other of not being able to read!

How else do you explain not knowong what a post says? He can't see? He is surfing the web without a monitor? Either one of these would make him more interesting.

jhns
07-27-2011, 03:15 PM
You really shouldn't put yourself down like that. One day you'll be able to read.

LOL

I'm rubber and youre glue!

Maybe I should stop. You are making me feel sorry for you.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 03:17 PM
LOL

I'm rubber and youre glue!

Maybe I should stop. You are making me feel sorry for you.

I have no opinion on this.

jhns
07-27-2011, 03:20 PM
I have no opinion on this.

Duh. You can't read it. We have established this.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 03:21 PM
Duh. You can't read it. We have established this.

I have no opinion about that.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 03:21 PM
holy cow I should do this more often, it's like Rep city in here.

That One Guy
07-27-2011, 03:23 PM
How else do you explain not knowong what a post says? He can't see? He is surfing the web without a monitor? Either one of these would make him more interesting.

LOL

I don't have a clue why that made me laugh but it did...

jhns
07-27-2011, 03:24 PM
holy cow I should do this more often, it's like Rep city in here.

People rep you for looking like an idiot? I should try it.

OABB
07-27-2011, 03:25 PM
People rep you for looking like an idiot? I should try it.

you should...I think you might be good at it.

ColoradoDarin
07-27-2011, 03:29 PM
People rep you for looking like an idiot? I should try it.

You do realize that this whole time, I've just been posting like you do? Right? That this entire fun episode has been me mocking your regular posting? That while this is the way you actually post, it's abnormal to me (abnormal means not normal FYI)?

I'd love to continue it, (and will should the mood strike me later tonight), but I've got to take the kids to dinner. While you're about the same brain power as my 4 month old, she's a bit more likeable. :)

jhns
07-27-2011, 03:35 PM
You do realize that this whole time, I've just been posting like you do? Right? That this entire fun episode has been me mocking your regular posting? That while this is the way you actually post, it's abnormal to me (abnormal means not normal FYI)?

I'd love to continue it, (and will should the mood strike me later tonight), but I've got to take the kids to dinner. While you're about the same brain power as my 4 month old, she's a bit more likeable. :)

You do realize that you have only made yourself look like an idiot, right? I mean, the trolling is a nice spin, but it doesn't take away from the fact that you are just trying to cover up the post were you made an ass of yourself. There is no need to be a jackass just because you make a stupid post that doesn't make sense. Next time, read before responding.

bendog
07-27-2011, 03:35 PM
This thread is maybe like taking a 4 mo old to a restaurant

broncos-rock
07-27-2011, 04:44 PM
What if trading Gaff was opening a spot for Steve Smith?

Punisher
07-27-2011, 04:47 PM
Nothing can fix this team McD put us and a very big hole

Agamemnon
07-27-2011, 05:43 PM
What if trading Gaff was opening a spot for Steve Smith?

Meh.

Agamemnon
07-27-2011, 05:49 PM
Just for the record. This is a solid move. Gaffney was too big a cap hit and really wasn't needed with all the young, promising receivers we have. Especially considering how much less we are going to be running three and four receiver sets.

Meanwhile Jarmon is a young guy with potential who costs us very little. Truth be told he's the exact kind of guy you look for in low end trades like this because he's never really gotten much of a chance seeing as his second year he was buried in 3-4 system he doesn't fit.

I like the trade. It makes a lot of sense, and could really work out for us ultimately.

elsid13
07-27-2011, 05:55 PM
I like this move. You get a young guy that can play either RE or UT and has talent.

baja
07-27-2011, 06:26 PM
I Elway Fox and Pizza boy I trust - until the prove otherwise.

KipCorrington25
07-27-2011, 08:02 PM
This is great, I wasn't a Gaffney fan. He was servicable but I think he got fed the ball a lot by McCheat, like that game Marshall was benched for example... I'd rather those balls now go to Royal or Decker. And nice to see a New England guys out of here, it's a win/win.

SoCalBronco
07-27-2011, 08:16 PM
Gaffney did some good things here, good luck to him. It looks like they're trying to put together some rotational depth. I guess Royal being back to 100% and Decker's expected elevation into the Top 3 prolly moved this along. Hopefully, Thomas can help us around midseason, too. Only thing that's kind of a problem about this is that I dont think they got an equal return, but its alright I guess.

Broncoman13
07-27-2011, 08:20 PM
Gaffney did some good things here, good luck to him. It looks like they're trying to put together some rotational depth. I guess Royal being back to 100% and Decker's expected elevation into the Top 3 prolly moved this along. Hopefully, Thomas can help us around midseason, too. Only thing that's kind of a problem about this is that I dont think they got an equal return, but its alright I guess.

BLloyd was asked about Decker today and quickly said that it isn't a foregone conclusion that Decker is in line for a starting position. He said Matt Willis shouldn't be discounted and can make some noise. Personally, I think Decker is looking for some ham and will be starting!!!

mhgaffney
07-27-2011, 08:21 PM
Yup. Don't overrate Gaffney, he was a McD guy anyway.

Buff you are walking on my fighting side.

Seriously, I am not too pleased with this move.

DenverBrit
07-27-2011, 08:25 PM
Buff you are walking on my fighting side.

Seriously, I am not too pleased with this move.


It should have been you.

SoCalBronco
07-27-2011, 08:28 PM
It should have been you.

Rep. Ha!

broncosteven
07-27-2011, 08:35 PM
Buff you are walking on my fighting side.

Seriously, I am not too pleased with this move.

The board could always use another BroncoBuff(add #) or a version on Meck77 how about Broncomeck77buff?

mhgaffney
07-27-2011, 08:52 PM
You guys are obviously vying for the lowbrow of the week award.

Who can go lower?

That is par for the course around here.

DenverBrit
07-27-2011, 08:57 PM
You guys are obviously vying for the lowbrow of the week award.

Who can go lower?

That is par for the course around here.


Don't sweat, you're lower than a snakes armpit, no one will catch you.

Archer81
07-27-2011, 08:59 PM
You guys are obviously vying for the lowbrow of the week award.

Who can go lower?

That is par for the course around here.


One day someone will ham you upside the head. It will be glorious.


:Broncos:

HAT
07-27-2011, 09:05 PM
BLloyd was asked about Decker today and quickly said that it isn't a foregone conclusion that Decker is in line for a starting position. He said Matt Willis shouldn't be discounted and can make some noise. Personally, I think Decker is looking for some ham and will be starting!!!

I read 7 pages earlier on my phone but haven't read the last 3.......So, props if you were the first person to actually mention Willis in this thread. He's going to shock Bronco nation this year.

baja
07-27-2011, 10:21 PM
Gaffney did some good things here, good luck to him. It looks like they're trying to put together some rotational depth. I guess Royal being back to 100% and Decker's expected elevation into the Top 3 prolly moved this along. Hopefully, Thomas can help us around midseason, too. Only thing that's kind of a problem about this is that I dont think they got an equal return, but its alright I guess.

They're betting on the come.

SouthStndJunkie
07-28-2011, 02:52 AM
Jabar Gaffney was only due to make 2.4 million dollars this year....a decent amount of money, but not out of line for a player that stays healthy, puts up good numbers, is a great teammate, and stays out of trouble.

I liked having some depth at WR....all of our current WRs have some question marks, while Gaffney has always been a model of consistency and stability.

We are a few ankle sprains away from this:

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Requiem
07-28-2011, 04:07 AM
Lloyd, Royal, Decker and Thomas whenever he gets healthy.

I think it is safe to say with Julius Thomas and Virgil Green being drafted that the Broncos want to give Tebow some safety nets to pass to in the tight end game, which would make sense, especially with a strong rushing attack.

We are fine, although I did say a while back that we were in no position to trade a WR.

Beantown Bronco
07-28-2011, 07:45 AM
Gaffney was too big a cap hit

I don't know why people keep saying this. It's mystifying that $2.5 mil is "too big a cap hit" for a guy that put up 1600 yds the past two years here. I can probably name at least 20-30 guys that make more than that and have done far less for us.

baja
07-28-2011, 08:23 AM
I don't know why people keep saying this. It's mystifying that $2.5 mil is "too big a cap hit" for a guy that put up 1600 yds the past two years here. I can probably name at least 20-30 guys that make more than that and have done far less for us.

Maybe Fox feels we have too much locker room character.

alkemical
07-28-2011, 08:27 AM
Maybe Fox feels we have too much locker room character.

No, his offense just doesn't use WR's.

WolfpackGuy
07-28-2011, 08:37 AM
I wonder how come McClueless couldn't talk Devaney into trading a few Rams first rounders for Gaffney to man his pop gun offense.

Lev Vyvanse
07-30-2011, 02:23 PM
Bump.

Cito Pelon
02-27-2012, 06:53 PM
Hmmmmmm.

RaiderH8r
02-27-2012, 07:27 PM
Hmmmmmm.

Well if this doesn't just rip the f'ing scab off the wound...

BroncoBeavis
02-27-2012, 07:55 PM
So, props if you were the first person to actually mention Willis in this thread. He's going to shock Bronco nation this year.

Hilarious!

BroncoBeavis
02-27-2012, 08:00 PM
Jabar Gaffney was only due to make 2.4 million dollars this year....a decent amount of money, but not out of line for a player that stays healthy, puts up good numbers, is a great teammate, and stays out of trouble.

I liked having some depth at WR....all of our current WRs have some question marks, while Gaffney has always been a model of consistency and stability.

And the nominees for the 2012 offseason Miss Cleo awards are...

orinjkrush
02-27-2012, 09:03 PM
are we talking mark gaffney?

man, sorry to see him go.

TheReverend
02-27-2012, 09:51 PM
Wait wait wait...

Are you trying to tell me that trading a starter for a guy WAY less qualified than Ryan McBean isn't good value?

GTFO!

Am I ever wrong...?