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ChrisToker
07-26-2011, 04:35 PM
So the Skins are going to give away Fat Albert, might as well be us. Yes he was childish, yes he was a cancer to them. The Skins have already paid the lions share of contract. We could give up a 6th and have the best DT on the team.

We have all done dumb ish in our life time. WWTD? He would give him another shot for redemption.

Gcver2ver3
07-26-2011, 04:37 PM
its reported the Skins would trade him for literally anything...

slide them a 5th and future considerations and call it a day...

SonOfLe-loLang
07-26-2011, 04:38 PM
I would too, but not as the first option. I'd bring him in after signing another talented one.

cmhargrove
07-26-2011, 04:38 PM
its reported the Skins would trade him for literally anything...

slide them a 5th and future considerations and call it a day...

Send them Perrish Cox. A turd for a turd.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 04:39 PM
Meh. Seems like a waste of a 5th rounder to me.

broncs2bowl
07-26-2011, 04:39 PM
Orton for Fatty and maybe a 4th?

We get a DT we get rid of Ortin finally and an extra little conditional pick

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 04:40 PM
Send them Perrish Cox. A turd for a turd.

That sounds about right. Maybe if they paid out most of the rest of his contract.

Gcver2ver3
07-26-2011, 04:41 PM
Meh. Seems like a waste of a 5th rounder to me.

what's been the result of our 5th rounders for say, the last 10 years?...

DHallblows
07-26-2011, 04:41 PM
Haynesworth may be a complete douche, but I'm gonna be honest: His dumb ass is worth a 6th round pick.

But the question is what would be his contract?

Requiem
07-26-2011, 04:42 PM
no. Way.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 04:44 PM
what's been the result of our 5th rounders for say, the last 10 years?...

What's been the result of the walking abortion that is Albert Haynesworth?

Gcver2ver3
07-26-2011, 04:45 PM
What's been the result of the walking abortion that is Albert Haynesworth?

pro bowls?...

run stopping defense?

DPOY?...

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 04:46 PM
pro bowls?...

run stopping defense?

DPOY?...

Locker room cancer?

And he's done that with much greater consistency.

ChrisToker
07-26-2011, 04:48 PM
6th gets it done right now. like said earlier a ham sandwich gets it done now. I bet the next team that gets him will be rewarded.

Gcver2ver3
07-26-2011, 04:49 PM
Locker room cancer?

And he's done that with much greater consistency.

thats why his value is low...

all i said was a 5th round pick...

considering the result of our 5th rounders, or any team's 5th rounders...what do we have to lose?...maybe he works out, if not, then its par fopr the course anyway...

oubronco
07-26-2011, 04:50 PM
no. Way.

This

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 04:51 PM
thats why his value is low...

all i said was a 5th round pick...

considering the result of our 5th rounders, or any team's 5th rounders...what do we have to lose?...maybe he works out, if not, then its par fopr the course anyway...

Let me repeat: locker room cancer. I don't want to trade anything for one of those.

Carmelo15
07-26-2011, 04:52 PM
Remember when the Raiders gave away Randy Moss to the Patriots for a 4th round pick. Look how that worked out. Albert wants to play in a 4-3. A 5th or 6th for him isn't must risk at all

ChrisToker
07-26-2011, 04:52 PM
I have faith that FOX would get this ass clowns full potential back.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-26-2011, 04:53 PM
Let me repeat: locker room cancer. I don't want to trade anything for one of those.

I dont think he's TO. I'd give him a shot. He's talented

Gcver2ver3
07-26-2011, 04:54 PM
Let me repeat: locker room cancer. I don't want to trade anything for one of those.

oh...

now that you're repeated it, i get it better now...

TDmvp
07-26-2011, 04:55 PM
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110709060615/glee/images/6/6b/Oh-hell-to-the-no.gif

snowspot66
07-26-2011, 04:55 PM
Remember when the Raiders gave away Randy Moss to the Patriots for a 4th round pick. Look how that worked out. Albert wants to play in a 4-3. A 5th or 6th for him isn't must risk at all

And they gave him away to a team that set offensive records with Moss as the focus. We are not going to be realistically contending for the Super Bowl. Asshats like Fat Albert only get worse when the team does poorly. Too risky.

Requiem
07-26-2011, 04:57 PM
Sign Mebane and Franklin. Draft another DL next year. Baaam!

ChrisToker
07-26-2011, 04:58 PM
Let me repeat: locker room cancer. I don't want to trade anything for one of those.

So you get hired to Fortune 500 firm where your told that you'll be in sales glorified by commission after a solid year the put you in customer service getting bombarded with stupid questions. Of course your pissed you were the big swinging #!#! in sales.

Hard to do an example of football. Yes Fat Albert could have not acted like an ass clown. Now he has something to prove to his peers.

BroncoMan4ever
07-26-2011, 05:00 PM
That sounds about right. Maybe if they paid out most of the rest of his contract.

he's only guaranteed about 12 million over the next 2 years and then he can be dropped without another cent owed. the 100 million dollar contract he signed was in fact basically just a 44 million guaranteed deal, the rest was incentive and performance based with team options on him. Washington has already paid him about 33 million of that 44 million guaranteed.

about 6 million a year for the next 2 seasons for a guy who when he is in the system he wants to play in and with a player friendly coach has shown the ability to be one of if not the best DT in the league is a good gamble in my opinion.

also a guy like Haynesworth bringing pressure up the gut while Doom and Von are coming off the corners would be an absolute nightmare for OC across the league.

razorwire77
07-26-2011, 05:01 PM
I was in the hell no group, but that's before we ****canned Justin Bannan, and failed to draft a single DT. If we lose out on the Mebane sweepstakes (a pretty likely possibility), we might not have a choice, unless we want to go with the epic Mock two front defense.

snowspot66
07-26-2011, 05:02 PM
Yes Fat Albert could have not acted like an ass clown.

When has he ever made the decision not to be a douche?

RunSilentRunDeep
07-26-2011, 05:02 PM
In nine seasons, Haynesworth has had more than four sacks just twice. And he's never played more than 14 games in a season.

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 05:04 PM
he's only guaranteed about 12 million over the next 2 years and then he can be dropped without another cent owed. the 100 million dollar contract he signed was in fact basically just a 44 million guaranteed deal, the rest was incentive and performance based with team options on him. Washington has already paid him about 33 million of that 44 million guaranteed.

about 6 million a year for the next 2 seasons for a guy who when he is in the system he wants to play in and with a player friendly coach has shown the ability to be one of if not the best DT in the league is a good gamble in my opinion.

also a guy like Haynesworth bringing pressure up the gut while Doom and Von are coming off the corners would be an absolute nightmare for OC across the league.

To be honest, I like the idea of a dirty player at DT.

I would rather have a budding stalwart there...a guy like Mebane.

ChrisToker
07-26-2011, 05:05 PM
In nine seasons, Haynesworth has had more than four sacks just twice. And he's never played more than 14 games in a season.

Yet sadly he would be th best DT on the team

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 05:05 PM
In nine seasons, Haynesworth has had more than four sacks just twice. And he's never played more than 14 games in a season.

We wouldn't need him for sacks.

snowspot66
07-26-2011, 05:07 PM
We wouldn't need him for sacks.

We would need him for more than 12 games a year (12 being the average number he suits up for per year, starts is even lower).

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 05:11 PM
We would need him for more than 12 games a year (12 being the average number he suits up for per year, starts is even lower).

I'd love to see the Broncos pursue two additional DT's aside from the "big fish" they're trying to reel in. So three total. I'd like to see a "big fish", a rotational guy like Tommie Harris, and maybe even a player like Haynesworth.

That would put the rotation like this:

Mebane (the big fish)
Haynesworth
Harris
Vickerson

Now THAT is a DT rotation. This team would instantly become one of the best pass defenses in the league.

RhymesayersDU
07-26-2011, 05:45 PM
I'm up for Haynesworth.

yerner
07-26-2011, 05:46 PM
No way unless he comes here as a free agent. If big Albert is forced to play by trade somewhere he doesn't want to be, it won't work out well for anybody.

Archer81
07-26-2011, 05:47 PM
Meh.

No thanks.

:Broncos:

elsid13
07-26-2011, 05:50 PM
Why would anyone want him on the team. He refuse to play when he doesn't want to, doesn't listen to his coaches and is a thug.

DBroncos4life
07-26-2011, 05:54 PM
Locker room cancer?

And he's done that with much greater consistency.

He is a HUGE character risk but lets be real here the Titans won a crap ton of games with him on there team.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 05:54 PM
Why would anyone want him on the team. He refuse to play when he doesn't want to, doesn't listen to his coaches and is a thug.

I was wondering the same thing...

zdoor
07-26-2011, 05:56 PM
His 2 big years were his contract years... No thanks

WolfpackGuy
07-26-2011, 05:56 PM
I don't think his lungs could take it.

I didn't want him before he signed with the Skins, and I still don't want him.

RhymesayersDU
07-26-2011, 06:00 PM
Why would anyone want him on the team. He refuse to play when he doesn't want to, doesn't listen to his coaches and is a thug.

It's all about risk/reward.

Was he worth the mammoth contract the Skins gave him? No, but we can get him and pay a fraction of the contract and only have to give up a late round pick.

To me, that is worth the potential reward. He's still better than any of our guys.

elsid13
07-26-2011, 06:11 PM
It's all about risk/reward.

Was he worth the mammoth contract the Skins gave him? No, but we can get him and pay a fraction of the contract and only have to give up a late round pick.

To me, that is worth the potential reward. He's still better than any of our guys.

The only reward is all the overtime pay the Denver PD will get chasing his ass around town. When London Fletcher and Vonnie Holliday call you out in the media for not playing for your teammates you have bad player that not worth the risk.

DBroncos4life
07-26-2011, 06:14 PM
The only reward is all the overtime pay the Denver PD will get chasing his ass around town. When London Fletcher and Vonnie Holliday call you out in the media for not playing for your teammates you have bad player that not worth the risk.

I'd rather pay the cops to chase someone down then our SS and FS.

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 06:26 PM
It sounds like Haynesworth's defensive teammates are just about ready to move on:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6804525/brian-orakpo-washington-redskins-tired-nonsense-albert-haynesworth

oubronco
07-26-2011, 06:45 PM
Why would anyone want him on the team. He refuse to play when he doesn't want to, doesn't listen to his coaches and is a thug.

Agreed 100x

KipCorrington25
07-26-2011, 06:58 PM
Tempting but no, these type of things rarely work out. We've had bad luck with character issues guys here in the last decade, they never work out.

Gort
07-26-2011, 07:04 PM
So the Skins are going to give away Fat Albert, might as well be us. Yes he was childish, yes he was a cancer to them. The Skins have already paid the lions share of contract. We could give up a 6th and have the best DT on the team.

We have all done dumb ish in our life time. WWTD? He would give him another shot for redemption.

this is why there should be a 100 post rule.

TonyR
07-26-2011, 07:10 PM
His 2 big years were his contract years...

A case could be made that it's about time for him to start playing for his next contract. So the timing might actually be perfect!

DomCasual
07-26-2011, 07:13 PM
I'd be all for it; but only if we could also resign Dale Carter to come back and shore up the secondary.

broncs2bowl
07-26-2011, 07:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QUKOPAAO2k

WoW

BroncoMan4ever
07-26-2011, 07:26 PM
To be honest, I like the idea of a dirty player at DT.

I would rather have a budding stalwart there...a guy like Mebane.

my dream scenario involves us landing one of Mebane, Cofield or Franklin in FA, and then trading a late rounder to the Skins for Haynesworth. I would love to see a starting DL of Ayers, Cofield, Hayneworth and Doom.

also, i am in agreement, as much as teams want to say we want nice guys and all that crap, every team needs a guy who is one step away from stomping a guys face into the turf.

Haynesworth is an absolute asshole and piece of ****. but he is a hell of a DT when he is in the 4-3 and playing for a coach he has a decent relationship with. i think Fox being a defensive minded player friendly coach is a good environment for Hayneworth. add in i tend to think he wants to prove the people in Washington and all those who say he has nothing left wrong.

broncocalijohn
07-26-2011, 09:21 PM
Remember when the Raiders gave away Randy Moss to the Patriots for a 4th round pick. Look how that worked out. Albert wants to play in a 4-3. A 5th or 6th for him isn't must risk at all

Pretty much spot on. What sucks for one team doesnt mean a suck for another. His system is right here in Denver. 5th rounders are not worth that much and we know the risk is better than what a 5th round talent will give you. Only question is the contract.

BroncoMan4ever
07-26-2011, 09:28 PM
I'd be all for it; but only if we could also resign Dale Carter to come back and shore up the secondary.

guy was an epic dick and it still annoys me that SHanahan brought him to Denver. however as bad as our defense was last season, if a guy like Carter could shore up a level of the defense, i say bring him in.

everyone wants the nice guys or the lovable guys. truth is in a violent sport like football, you need a few assholes.

Mogulseeker
07-26-2011, 09:40 PM
I'd love to see the Broncos pursue two additional DT's aside from the "big fish" they're trying to reel in. So three total. I'd like to see a "big fish", a rotational guy like Tommie Harris, and maybe even a player like Haynesworth.

That would put the rotation like this:

Mebane (the big fish)
Haynesworth
Harris
Vickerson

Now THAT is a DT rotation. This team would instantly become one of the best pass defenses in the league.

That would be a very nice rotation, assuming Haynesworth starts... would he want to be a #2?

snowspot66
07-26-2011, 09:44 PM
guy was an epic dick and it still annoys me that SHanahan brought him to Denver. however as bad as our defense was last season, if a guy like Carter could shore up a level of the defense, i say bring him in.

everyone wants the nice guys or the lovable guys. truth is in a violent sport like football, you need a few a-holes.

We want guys that the other team thinks are ass holes. Not guys that the locker room thinks are ass holes.

ZachKC
07-26-2011, 09:44 PM
Do it.

Dooooo itttttttt

ChrisToker
07-26-2011, 09:46 PM
this is why there should be a 100 post rule.

my big toe knows more football then you ever will

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 09:49 PM
That would be a very nice rotation, assuming Haynesworth starts... would he want to be a #2?

#2 what? A 4-3 defense has two starting DTs.

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 09:54 PM
We want guys that the other team thinks are a-holes. Not guys that the locker room thinks are a-holes.

What about guys who satisfy both conditions?

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 09:55 PM
That would be a very nice rotation, assuming Haynesworth starts... would he want to be a #2?

It wouldn't matter what he wants. Just by placing guys around him who compete for his minutes, you're letting everyone else know that he's just another dude unless he proves otherwise.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 09:56 PM
What about guys who satisfy both conditions?

Players that don't get along with their teammates generally aren't good for a team. Period.

Mogulseeker
07-26-2011, 10:04 PM
#2 what? A 4-3 defense has two starting DTs.

In a rotation, you have a #1 guy and a #2 guy and a #3, etc. in terms of overall playing time.

Haynesworth would probably want to be out there every 3rd down, etc.

Mogulseeker
07-26-2011, 10:05 PM
It wouldn't matter what he wants. Just by placing guys around him who compete for his minutes, you're letting everyone else know that he's just another dude unless he proves otherwise.

My point is, he won't go for that... some of these players' egos just can't be reasoned with.

BroncoMan4ever
07-26-2011, 10:07 PM
We want guys that the other team thinks are a-holes. Not guys that the locker room thinks are a-holes.

therein lies the quandary. does a team give a **** about a guy being an asshole if he is awesome at his position and contributing to wins?

figure it like this. you have a player, he is by all means an asshole, everyone agrees, teammates, coaches, fans, everyone. however, this asshole guy is not a guy causing trouble off the field, he works hard, he plays well, and is a team contributor, no one on the team will have much of a problem with that guys attitude.

boppool
07-26-2011, 10:19 PM
So the Skins are going to give away Fat Albert, might as well be us. Yes he was childish, yes he was a cancer to them. The Skins have already paid the lions share of contract. We could give up a 6th and have the best DT on the team.

We have all done dumb ish in our life time. WWTD? He would give him another shot for redemption.

So... you want their cancer... Hmm. No thanks. He's the last thing this young rebuilding team needs.

mopatt24
07-26-2011, 10:19 PM
I've been on this wagon all offseason/lockout. Slide them a 5th or 6th, get him in here, and still make a hard push for Mebane.

DBroncos4life
07-26-2011, 10:21 PM
We want guys that the other team thinks are a-holes. Not guys that the locker room thinks are a-holes.

We want W's and not for the other teams to get W's.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 10:22 PM
In a rotation, you have a #1 guy and a #2 guy and a #3, etc. in terms of overall playing time.

Haynesworth would probably want to be out there every 3rd down, etc.

Not how it works at all. When it comes to DTs there are two starters. On obvious passing downs starting DTs that aren't capable of penetrating are taken out while penetrating DTs like Haynesworth are generally left in. Starting DTs who have better conditioning usually stay in for more plays (not Haynesworth's strength). This notion of a strictly hierarchical rotation of DTs based off of playing time is pretty far off to be honest.

Old Dude
07-26-2011, 11:12 PM
I'd go for it if the skins tossed in a 3d rounder to go with him.

Mogulseeker
07-26-2011, 11:30 PM
Not how it works at all. When it comes to DTs there are two starters. On obvious passing downs starting DTs that aren't capable of penetrating are taken out while penetrating DTs like Haynesworth are generally left in. Starting DTs who have better conditioning usually stay in for more plays (not Haynesworth's strength). This notion of a strictly hierarchical rotation of DTs based off of playing time is pretty far off to be honest.

Dude I know that there are two DT starters in a 4-3 defense. I'm not an idiot. My point is Haynesworth would want to be in there every play, and wouldn't want to be a number 2 in a rotation.

Noticed in the very first post, my question was if he started, how would he deal with being a number 2 at this point in his career.

ChrisToker
07-26-2011, 11:44 PM
So Barry Cofield is now off short list of DT's available. Seahawks in lead to ink Mebane. Haynesworth is looking like a solid option all of a sudden.

ol#7
07-27-2011, 03:19 AM
Romo was the kind of A-hole you want on your team, not the Dale Carter's or Hanesworth cancers. The kind of guy you love only because he is on your team but the opponents hate.

uplink
07-27-2011, 03:37 AM
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Rother8
07-27-2011, 05:37 AM
Locker room cancer?

And he's done that with much greater consistency.


For a 6th round pick, as long as wash eats his contract, just cut him.

Bob's your Information Minister
07-27-2011, 07:07 AM
Daryl Gardener is available, too.

WolfpackGuy
07-27-2011, 07:14 AM
.

I hope he lost a diamond stud, gold tooth, or contact on that play because that's just awful.

DrFate
07-27-2011, 08:42 AM
He's worth nothing.

I wouldn't want Denver to take him AND a 6th for nothing

Pass

Beantown Bronco
07-27-2011, 08:45 AM
He's worth nothing.

I wouldn't want Denver to take him AND a 6th for nothing

Pass

That's kind of odd. If a team just came up to us and said, "Here. Have our 6th rounder next year. And we don't need anything in return. It's yours for free", you'd say no? I'm glad you don't work for the Broncos.

alkemical
07-27-2011, 08:53 AM
So you get hired to Fortune 500 firm where your told that you'll be in sales glorified by commission after a solid year the put you in customer service getting bombarded with stupid questions. Of course your pissed you were the big swinging #!#! in sales.

Hard to do an example of football. Yes Fat Albert could have not acted like an ass clown. Now he has something to prove to his peers.

I think you are being a bit optimistic when it comes to Albert's "redemption".

alkemical
07-27-2011, 08:54 AM
No way unless he comes he as a free agent. If big Albert is forced to play by trade somewhere he doesn't want to be it won't work out well for anybody.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1041086421710&id=5480ba44bf027f0a86b999ce8e4df10b&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.unicron.us%2fg%2fsrc%2f%3fwpa th%3dtf2007%2ftoypix%2fclassics_grimlock%2f107_542 2.jpg%26size%3d600

Grimlock Angry!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-27-2011, 08:55 AM
That's kind of odd. If a team just came up to us and said, "Here. Have our 6th rounder next year. And we don't need anything in return. It's yours for free", you'd say no? I'm glad you don't work for the Broncos.

This.

I don't like Haynesworth, his attitude, his laying-on-the-field-against-a-division-opponent baloney, his "hired gun" mentality, or his me-first bull**** anymore than anyone else. But if you think the guy couldn't come in to a 4-3 and contribute immediately and in a big way, especially for a player-friendly coach like Fox, I think you're crazy.

All that said, I'm completely on the fence when it comes to bringing him in. It's a risk/reward proposition, no question.

TheReverend
07-27-2011, 08:58 AM
This.

I don't like Haynesworth, his attitude, his laying-on-the-field-against-a-division-opponent baloney, his "hired gun" mentality, or his me-first bull**** anymore than anyone else. But if you think the guy couldn't come in to a 4-3 and contribute immediately and in a big way, especially for a player-friendly coach like Fox, I think you're crazy.

All that said, I'm completely on the fence when it comes to bringing him in. It's a risk/reward proposition, no question.

This is where I stand 100%

alkemical
07-27-2011, 08:58 AM
This.

I don't like Haynesworth, his attitude, his laying-on-the-field-against-a-division-opponent baloney, his "hired gun" mentality, or his me-first bull**** anymore than anyone else. But if you think the guy couldn't come in to a 4-3 and contribute immediately and in a big way, especially for a player-friendly coach like Fox, I think you're crazy.

All that said, I'm completely on the fence when it comes to bringing him in. It's a risk/reward proposition, no question.

Jeff Fischer is a players coach too.

I don't think coaches "matter" to Haynesworth.

RhymesayersDU
07-27-2011, 08:58 AM
That's kind of odd. If a team just came up to us and said, "Here. Have our 6th rounder next year. And we don't need anything in return. It's yours for free", you'd say no? I'm glad you don't work for the Broncos.

Yeah, a lot of people around here are ridiculously irrational when it comes to stuff like this.

bendog
07-27-2011, 09:00 AM
I remember when the joshlovers griped about shanny doing stuff like this.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-27-2011, 09:00 AM
Jeff Fischer is a players coach too.

I don't think coaches "matter" to Haynesworth.

Yeah, and Haynesworth had some very good seasons in Tennessee.

Shanahan is known as a players' coach too. Installing the 3-4 is what drew Haynesworth's ire, not the coaching staff.

If he's in a 4-3, he produces. Very simple.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-27-2011, 09:01 AM
Yeah, a lot of people around here are ridiculously irrational when it comes to stuff like this.

I'd like to believe they're just trying (and failing) to be humorous.

alkemical
07-27-2011, 09:04 AM
Yeah, and Haynesworth had some very good seasons in Tennessee.

Shanahan is known as a players' coach too. Installing the 3-4 is what drew Haynesworth's ire, not the coaching staff.

If he's in a 4-3, he produces. Very simple.

So he's just a lazy **** who doesn't work when he doesn't like what he's paid to do.

gotchya!

Bring him in!

Rabb
07-27-2011, 09:05 AM
I truly believe a lot of the posters here think we are fixing the team this year. We aren't...we are going to need another year at least and if Albert is what we need to limp along then bring him in. He is a dramatic upgrade to what we have...we are that bad.

In a hole this deep, you have to start clawing your way out however you can.

alkemical
07-27-2011, 09:09 AM
maybe we can trade orton for haynesworth!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-27-2011, 09:14 AM
So he's just a lazy **** who doesn't work when he doesn't like what he's paid to do.

gotchya!

Bring him in!

If you're hired to do a job in a system, and the system and job changes, you aren't very happy either. I had it happen to me, where a job wasn't what I was told it would be, and it certainly wasn't what I was hired to do. I was pissed off, and immediately started looking for other jobs.

I didn't exactly lay down on the field, but it's hardly the same thing.

For a 6th round pick, with most of the money already having been paid by the Redskins for that gawd-awful deal? Yeah, bring him in. And if it doesn't work out, we lost a 6th round pick.

There have been MUCH worse trades in the history of this organization. MUCH worse.

alkemical
07-27-2011, 09:19 AM
If you're hired to do a job in a system, and the system and job changes, you aren't very happy either. I had it happen to me, where a job wasn't what I was told it would be, and it certainly wasn't what I was hired to do. I was pissed off, and immediately started looking for other jobs.

I didn't exactly lay down on the field, but it's hardly the same thing.

For a 6th round pick, with most of the money already having been paid by the Redskins for that gawd-awful deal? Yeah, bring him in. And if it doesn't work out, we lost a 6th round pick.

There have been MUCH worse trades in the history of this organization. MUCH worse.

We just disagree, that's all.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-27-2011, 09:20 AM
We just disagree, that's all.

There ain't no good guy.
There ain't no bad guy.
There's only you and me and we just disagree.

Kumbaya.

All we are saying is give peace a chance.

And so on.