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epicSocialism4tw
07-23-2011, 07:20 PM
Players should be able to sign on Saturday.

So who will the Broncos end up with?

ICON
07-23-2011, 07:25 PM
Players should be able to sign on Saturday.

So who will the Broncos end up with?Link

epicSocialism4tw
07-23-2011, 07:37 PM
Link

http://favim.com/orig/201107/20/candy-legend-of-zelda-link-nintendo-skittles-Favim.com-110784.jpg

TDmvp
07-23-2011, 07:43 PM
http://favim.com/orig/201107/20/candy-legend-of-zelda-link-nintendo-skittles-Favim.com-110784.jpg

Hilarious!

SoCalBronco
07-23-2011, 07:45 PM
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RhymesayersDU
07-23-2011, 07:46 PM
This thread got awesome, fast. The Zelda series definitely my all-time favorite. When they release the next one, I may buy a used Wii just for it.

ICON
07-23-2011, 07:50 PM
Denver might look at Ian Williams (Notre Dame).I would also love to see them sign Mark Herlich from Boston College.

The Broncos identified defensive tackle as their greatest offseason need. They just haven't addressed it so I would love to see Mebane here or Cofield.

CB is a concern if we lose cox.If we can get him for a reasonable price, I'm always interested maybe Sharper .

When the lockouts over I'll return to this thread with my bronco wishlist

ChrisToker
07-23-2011, 07:53 PM
UDFA: RB-Derrick Locke, CB-Devon Torrence, DT-Martin Parker, DT-Ian Williams
FA: DT-Brandon Mebane
Re-sign: DT-Marcus Thomas DT-Justin Bannon
Trade: Kyle Orton and 2nd Rd pick to AZ for Dan Williams and Beanie Wells.
Restructure: Brian Dawkins from 6M to 2.5M
CUT: Perrish Cox

TDmvp
07-23-2011, 07:53 PM
This thread got awesome, fast. The Zelda series definitely my all-time favorite. When they release the next one, I may buy a used Wii just for it.



The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess isn't bad , it was one of the release titles for the wii... When the new one comes out you should try both.

RhymesayersDU
07-23-2011, 07:55 PM
I played Twilight Princess; I actually stood in line and bought a Wii on the release date. But I ended up getting rid of it. I should have just kept it.

ChrisToker
07-23-2011, 07:58 PM
For reals guys? Are we talking Zelda now.......?

Cuz Donkey Kong would kick the crap out of Link :) J/K

RhymesayersDU
07-23-2011, 08:01 PM
For reals guys? Are we talking Zelda now.......?

Cuz Donkey Kong would kick the crap out of Link :) J/K

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Tombstone RJ
07-23-2011, 08:13 PM
how about signing some ufa's first, commentator on nfln or espn said these should be the first priority and then signing the current team players, then signing the draft picks. make lots of sense to me.

barryr
07-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Mebane or Cofield would be great, though not sure what cap number the Broncos will have, so that might not be realistic since they will likely command big money. But they definately need an impact DT that is for sure and probably another CB. A RB seems pretty certain a position they will address too. More depth at LB and DE would be nice as well.

SoCalBronco
07-23-2011, 08:23 PM
The first order of business will be dealing Orton immediately for picks to give us some real breathing room under the cap. From there, Dawkins will have to also take a serious haircut to give us even more room. Then, they'll have to throw the kitchen sink at Mebane because they absolutely have to have him as we have literally nothing there due to our own negligence. They'll probably want to go after DeAngelo Williams after that, although I'm not sure there is room for two big contracts, and I dont really like the guy, anyway.

RhymesayersDU
07-23-2011, 08:26 PM
Dawkins needs to restructure at least, or else I'd outright cut him. His play on the field isn't great and even though I do think leadership and experience are tangible assets to a football team, I don't think he's worth it.

Tombstone RJ
07-23-2011, 08:31 PM
this team needs leaders, but young leaders. Bailey and Dawkins have to be in the locker room to show the young guys how to lead. Dawkins doesn't have much left in the tank physically, but I'd have him more as a sideline, locker room guy. I'd ask him to accept the role of a team captain and help coach up the young guys. I'd let Bailey be the silent leader, just executing.

Broncoman13
07-23-2011, 08:31 PM
UDFA: RB-Derrick Locke, CB-Devon Torrence, DT-Martin Parker, DT-Ian Williams
FA: DT-Brandon Mebane
Re-sign: DT-Marcus Thomas DT-Justin Bannon
Trade: Kyle Orton and 2nd Rd pick to AZ for Dan Williams and Beanie Wells.
Restructure: Brian Dawkins from 6M to 2.5M
CUT: Perrish Cox

I would rather send Kyle Orton and a pick in necessary to the Cards for DRC.

Broncoman13
07-23-2011, 09:00 PM
this team needs leaders, but young leaders. Bailey and Dawkins have to be in the locker room to show the young guys how to lead. Dawkins doesn't have much left in the tank physically, but I'd have him more as a sideline, locker room guy. I'd ask him to accept the role of a team captain and help coach up the young guys. I'd let Bailey be the silent leader, just executing.

You have your leaders now. Von Miller and TIM Tebow are your youthful leaders.... Now we need some talent.

OBF1
07-23-2011, 09:02 PM
here we go again

ChrisToker
07-23-2011, 09:15 PM
The reason I think it would be better to trade Kyle Orton and 2nd Rd pick for Dan Williams and Beanie Wells it fills high priority gaps. DRC is agreat risk reward CB that only cost 2M per season next 2yrs after that cost would be sky high. Wells and Williams would be half that to re-sign. Ppl give me flak for wanting Williams but hes gonna be a stud

Broncoman13
07-23-2011, 09:29 PM
The reason I think it would be better to trade Kyle Orton and 2nd Rd pick for Dan Williams and Beanie Wells it fills high priority gaps. DRC is agreat risk reward CB that only cost 2M per season next 2yrs after that cost would be sky high. Wells and Williams would be half that to re-sign. Ppl give me flak for wanting Williams but hes gonna be a stud

Williams is fine, Beanie Wells sucks as much wind as Knowshow... You want a RB, give a two year contract to Ronnie Brown or Ricky Williams and draft one next year to develop.

This team is so short on talent right now it really is pathetic. What is our greatest unit right now? WRs maybe? QB, lots of questions though I have lots of hope. OL, not sold on Beadles, Walton, or Franklin. TE, not yet...potential though. CB, other than Champ we have very little. LBs, DJ and Von make this a pretty good unit. DL, I think USC pays more to their DLinemen than we do!!! USC is breakin Bread man! ;D

BroncoMan4ever
07-23-2011, 09:51 PM
Players should be able to sign on Saturday.

So who will the Broncos end up with?

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ChrisToker
07-23-2011, 09:52 PM
Right now money is tight cap wise so I dont see us getting either Mebane or Cofield. So we will be getting multiple UDFA DT to field the void maybe a few lower end FA. So after we trade Kyle Orton for peanuts do to fact AZ is only real team left looking for QB and they want Kolb?!?! for some reason. Maybe Miami would upgrade over Hene, Seahawks would take Hasselback over KO because knowledge of playbook. All other teams that drafted QB's may give up 5th rd possible 4th for KO.

So we need to call up AZto try n deal. KO 2nd Rd pick fo Dan Williams (doubt they give up Darnell Dockett)and Beanie Wells (dont think they'd part w/ Hightower)

BroncoMan4ever
07-23-2011, 09:52 PM
I would rather send Kyle Orton and a pick in necessary to the Cards for DRC.

i say if we are sending Kyle and a pick to the Cards anyway, forget DRC, lets try for Docket and address the gaping hole in our defense.

ZONA
07-23-2011, 10:41 PM
this team needs leaders, but young leaders. Bailey and Dawkins have to be in the locker room to show the young guys how to lead. Dawkins doesn't have much left in the tank physically, but I'd have him more as a sideline, locker room guy. I'd ask him to accept the role of a team captain and help coach up the young guys. I'd let Bailey be the silent leader, just executing.

Sorry but I'll take the guys who can get it done on the field. We have coaches who can give advice and show leadership without taking a precious roster spot. Too many people fall in love with players (which is fine) but rarely know when it's time to say thank you but it's time for somebody else, just as it was your time to prove yourself many years before. Now I'm not saying Dawkins can't still play. But if I tell my rookies and young players to go out on the field during practice and show me you deserve to play, and they beat out a vet, even a previous star player who has aged and is well liked, sorry but that roster spot goes to that young player. That's the kinda of leadership, as the headcoach, I give to my players. The position coaches have been through it all just as much as Dawkins has and I doubt that these players can tell these young guys nothing the coaches haven't already told them or showed them on film. It's not like it was 40 years ago when there wasn't a ton of film out there and many of the coaches were not previous players. That's all changed. I think it's fine to have vet leaders on the team, but they have to get it done on the field and still out perform those young guys. If they can't, there is no reason for them to take that roster spot.

KipCorrington25
07-23-2011, 10:59 PM
this team needs leaders, but young leaders. Bailey and Dawkins have to be in the locker room to show the young guys how to lead. Dawkins doesn't have much left in the tank physically, but I'd have him more as a sideline, locker room guy. I'd ask him to accept the role of a team captain and help coach up the young guys. I'd let Bailey be the silent leader, just executing.

and talent, young talent, like the talent level where McCheat would think they suck talent... oh and not rapists... :yayaya:

TonyR
07-24-2011, 08:27 AM
This is from an article about potential Eagles targets but it's a pretty good rundown of FA's.


Cornerback
If the Eagles don't acquire the Cardinals' Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie or any other cornerback in a trade involving quarterback Kevin Kolb, corner is at the top of the list of needs. And there are a number of quality free agents, probably the most at any position. The Eagles could make a splash and sign Oakland's Nnamdi Asomugha - likely at a $17 million-a-season pop - but other options are more affordable.

Johnathan Joseph of the Bengals is the best of the lot, and would slip seamlessly into the Eagles defense. But Cincinnati has cap space to retain the 27-year-old. Antonio Cromartie has great size (6-foot-2, 210 pounds), but the N.Y. Jets aren't likely to let him walk either. The same goes for the Falcons' Brent Grimes, a Northeast High product, and the Chiefs' Brandon Carr. That leaves Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor and Washington's Carlos Rogers as the next best options, but both are in their 30s.

Defensive end
The Eagles under coach Andy Reid have always placed a high value on ends, having drafted four in the first three rounds since 2007.

The reason they need to address the position via free agency is because they haven't drafted very well. Former top pick Brandon Graham's knee woes make it all but certain the Eagles will fill a glaring hole at end. Minnesota's Ray Edwards and Carolina's Charles Johnson are at the top of the class and would likely be attractive to the Eagles because of their sack numbers and age (both are 26). Johnson is expected to stay in Charlotte, but the Vikings won't likely be able to afford Edwards' price tag.

Cliff Avril of the Lions and Mathias Kiwanuka of the Giants are also options should they reach free agency. Former Eagle Jason Babin has been linked here primarily because of his success last year in Tennessee under the direction of new Eagles defensive line coach Jim Washburn. He's 31, though, and wants to cash in.

Defensive tackle
Brandon Mebane of Seattle is probably the most attractive free agent defensive tackle. He's 26 and the kind of gap-plugger the Eagles covet, but new defensive coordinator Juan Castillo is supposedly looking for pass rushers inside. The Bears' Tommie Harris used to get after it, but his numbers have steadily declined.

Albert Haynesworth isn't a free agent, but many expect the Redskins to release the former all-pro, another of Washburn's success stories.

Linebacker
The Eagles' pursuit of a free-agent linebacker will depend solely upon whether they can or want to keep Stewart Bradley. If they choose to bid adieu to their middle linebacker or are outbid for the 27-year-old, Buffalo's Paul Posluszny, Tennessee's Stephen Tulloch, Tampa Bay's Barrett Ruud, or Jacksonville's Kirk Morrison could be in play. Posluszny could also play outside, which would allow sophomore Jamar Chaney to stay inside.

Quarterback
When Kolb goes, the Eagles will need a backup to Michael Vick. Second-year pro Mike Kafka needs another season with a clipboard, so it'll be to the scrap heap for the Eagles. Matt Hasselbeck would be a perfect fit. One problem: The Seattle quarterback wants to start. The same probably goes for Marc Bulger and Alex Smith, but they may not have a choice.

Vince Young is an intriguing alternative even though he isn't a free agent. He flamed out in Tennessee and might be willing to come here to learn under the two-headed stewardship of Reid and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg.

Running back
The easiest way for the Eagles to address their backup tailback need is to keep free agent Jerome Harrison. That's easier said than done. Harrison intimated at the end of last season that he wants an opportunity to start. He won't get that chance with LeSean McCoy ahead of him, so he may leave.

Darren Sproles of the Chargers would appear to be a match for the Eagles offense. He can run and catch and has never been the featured back. Ronnie Brown did a lot of the Wildcat in Miami and would give Reid a toy in that formation. Cadillac Williams may be willing to play backup after losing his starting spot in Tampa Bay.

Others
The Eagles have zagged when everyone else thought they would zig, so there's always the chance they could hit free agency for positions at which they seem to be set - offensive line, safety, and wide receiver.

The diagnosis on Winston Justice's knee could spur the Eagles to sign a tackle, just as Nate Allen's ruptured patellar tendon could lead to a safety acquisition. The Eagles are stocked at wide receiver, but every armchair general manager has Plaxico Burress in midnight green.

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montrose
07-25-2011, 07:32 AM
I'm interested to see how active the Broncos will be able to be, on one hand there's going to be an unprecedented amount of free agents but on the other hand there's going to be a lot of clubs with a ton of money they need to spend. It should be interesting to see how the Broncos can open up more cap space. I expect they'll restructure Dawk and try to move Orton. Then you've got vets like Gaffney, Buck and Hill that could open almost 8.5 million if they're traded or cut. I hope the Broncos dont get into bidding wars to overpay for too many FAs. The team's going to suck anyway - no reason to get in bad cap shape for guys who may not be part of the long-term plan.

tsiguy96
07-25-2011, 07:35 AM
I'm interested to see how active the Broncos will be able to be, on one hand there's going to be an unprecedented amount of free agents but on the other hand there's going to be a lot of clubs with a ton of money they need to spend. It should be interesting to see how the Broncos can open up more cap space. I expect they'll restructure Dawk and try to move Orton. Then you've got vets like Gaffney, Buck and Hill that could open almost 8.5 million if they're traded or cut. I hope the Broncos dont get into bidding wars to overpay for too many FAs. The team's going to suck anyway - no reason to get in bad cap shape for guys who may not be part of the long-term plan.

cant be in bad cap shape, the current system doesnt work like the last one. the salary floor is 99% this year and next year, which is a lot for denver to fill, and there is no such thing as dead money or anything now.

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 08:19 AM
NFL free agency might begin as soon as Monday, July 25, if the NFLPA signs off on a timeline being discussed, according to a source at the highest level. According to the projected timeline, the new league year would officially start Aug. 2 at 4 p.m. EST.

Before that, teams can sign their own free agents and begin talking with other unrestricted free agents Monday, July 25. Teams can also begin signing unrestricted free agents Tuesday, July 26, at noon EST but those contracts would not take effect until Aug. 2. As well, teams can begin talking trades Monday, July 25. Any trades would become official Saturday, July 30.

THIS IS GONNA BE WILD!!!

broncosteven
07-25-2011, 08:38 AM
I'm interested to see how active the Broncos will be able to be, on one hand there's going to be an unprecedented amount of free agents but on the other hand there's going to be a lot of clubs with a ton of money they need to spend. It should be interesting to see how the Broncos can open up more cap space. I expect they'll restructure Dawk and try to move Orton. Then you've got vets like Gaffney, Buck and Hill that could open almost 8.5 million if they're traded or cut. I hope the Broncos dont get into bidding wars to overpay for too many FAs. The team's going to suck anyway - no reason to get in bad cap shape for guys who may not be part of the long-term plan.

I would like to see what they can find in the UDFA pickings and then pick up a vet DT in FA.

I would rather see them trade Orton for a young DT who has a decent contract already set for a couple years rather then bust the bank on a FA DT or a CB. I think we are fine at CB, a little thin but we have fielded worse guys at CB and this is a rebuilding year. Can't address all needs in one year but I hope they can find a way to get as much done as possible.

I think now is a good time to cut Gaffney and Buck, I would keep Hill for depth through TC but Gaffney can likely stick on a team that needs a 50 catch guy i.e. Chicago. Buck is only good for 5-10 carries a game and I would rather see an UDFA RB back there at this point.

I just don't have a great feeling that they will make a splash with a big time FA DT, I sure hope I am wrong.

mwill07
07-25-2011, 09:10 AM
I would like to see what they can find in the UDFA pickings and then pick up a vet DT in FA.

I would rather see them trade Orton for a young DT who has a decent contract already set for a couple years rather then bust the bank on a FA DT or a CB. I think we are fine at CB, a little thin but we have fielded worse guys at CB and this is a rebuilding year. Can't address all needs in one year but I hope they can find a way to get as much done as possible.

I think now is a good time to cut Gaffney and Buck, I would keep Hill for depth through TC but Gaffney can likely stick on a team that needs a 50 catch guy i.e. Chicago. Buck is only good for 5-10 carries a game and I would rather see an UDFA RB back there at this point.

I just don't have a great feeling that they will make a splash with a big time FA DT, I sure hope I am wrong.

I don't think Buck is good for that many. IMO, it's the end of the road for him.

StugotsIII
07-25-2011, 09:15 AM
Dane Sanzenbacher please:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I08QqP7cE5A

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 09:27 AM
penis

StugotsIII
07-25-2011, 09:43 AM
penis

Please keep your cravings to yourself...

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 09:47 AM
Please keep your cravings to yourself...

I'm going to beat off so much tonight...

I'm going to watch you.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=3217754#post3217754

:/

StugotsIII
07-25-2011, 09:52 AM
http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=3217754#post3217754

:/

Like I said…please keep your cravings to yourself.


Maybe you should move to New York?

epicSocialism4tw
07-25-2011, 11:26 AM
I'm interested to see how active the Broncos will be able to be, on one hand there's going to be an unprecedented amount of free agents but on the other hand there's going to be a lot of clubs with a ton of money they need to spend. It should be interesting to see how the Broncos can open up more cap space. I expect they'll restructure Dawk and try to move Orton. Then you've got vets like Gaffney, Buck and Hill that could open almost 8.5 million if they're traded or cut. I hope the Broncos dont get into bidding wars to overpay for too many FAs. The team's going to suck anyway - no reason to get in bad cap shape for guys who may not be part of the long-term plan.

I hope that the Broncos are able to focus on just securing a long-term solution at DT this offseason.

Its the biggest hole on the team and has been for some years.

oubronco
07-25-2011, 11:28 AM
I hope that the Broncos are able to focus on just securing a long-term solution at DT this offseason.

Its the biggest hole on the team and has been for some years.

Exactly all us fans can see it why can't the front office?

BroncoMan4ever
07-25-2011, 12:47 PM
Denver might look at Ian Williams (Notre Dame).I would also love to see them sign Mark Herlich from Boston College.

The Broncos identified defensive tackle as their greatest offseason need. They just haven't addressed it so I would love to see Mebane here or Cofield.

CB is a concern if we lose cox.If we can get him for a reasonable price, I'm always interested maybe Sharper .

When the lockouts over I'll return to this thread with my bronco wishlist

JOHN CLAY!

get some power in the backfield.

i am also on board with Herzlich as I would not have minded at all had we drafted him in the middle rounds.

boppool
07-25-2011, 01:12 PM
Here are some possible targets we should be after:

Mark Herzlich, LB, Boston College:
The kid's got a chip on his shoulder and been through so much. He could definately help this team out, although the list of his suiters may be long.

Kendric Burney, CB, North Carolina:
Best CB available, which isn't saying much, but has solid coverage skills and good burst.

Ian Williams, DT, Notre Dame
Definately a position of need. Tore MCL in his Sr. year, which hurt his stock. But worth a look.

Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
Undersized, but super-fast, Sproles clone. Can be utilized as a third down guy.

razorwire77
07-25-2011, 02:23 PM
Deal Orton for a 2nd or 3rd rounder and get him off the books.
Restructure Dawkins.
Throw the kitchen sink at Mebane
sign a FA RB (Williams?)
sign a FA 2nd tier CB after the FA frenzy dies down
cut Cox

tsiguy96
07-25-2011, 02:25 PM
willis mcgahee is a FA, ravens are releasing him.

epicSocialism4tw
07-25-2011, 02:27 PM
Deal Orton for a 2nd or 3rd rounder and get him off the books.
Restructure Dawkins.
Throw the kitchen sink at Mebane
sign a FA RB (Williams?)
sign a FA 2nd tier CB after the FA frenzy dies down
cut Cox

Sounds good.

Br0nc0Buster
07-25-2011, 02:28 PM
willis mcgahee is a FA, ravens are releasing him.

meh is even any good anymore?
from what I have seen lately, havent been impressed

Br0nc0Buster
07-25-2011, 02:31 PM
Derrick Locke
Noel Devine
John Clay, why not
Mario Fannin

perhaps adding a vet like Snelling and one of these guys might do the trick

BroncoMan4ever
07-25-2011, 02:38 PM
NFL free agency might begin as soon as Monday, July 25, if the NFLPA signs off on a timeline being discussed, according to a source at the highest level. According to the projected timeline, the new league year would officially start Aug. 2 at 4 p.m. EST.

Before that, teams can sign their own free agents and begin talking with other unrestricted free agents Monday, July 25. Teams can also begin signing unrestricted free agents Tuesday, July 26, at noon EST but those contracts would not take effect until Aug. 2. As well, teams can begin talking trades Monday, July 25. Any trades would become official Saturday, July 30.

THIS IS GONNA BE WILD!!!

with the whole, we can sign them but the dels re not active until the 2nd crap. does that mean we can sign players but they aren't allowed to be at TC until the 2nd?

come on triumvirate let's get that Orton trade made.

BroncoMan4ever
07-25-2011, 02:41 PM
Derrick Locke
Noel Devine
John Clay, why not
Mario Fannin

perhaps adding a vet like Snelling and one of these guys might do the trick

i want John Clay in Denver

i say no thanks to Deangelo Williams, but would be interested in Snelling and would jump for joy if we got Michael Bush

BroncoMan4ever
07-25-2011, 02:47 PM
i am not too worried about the cap space. once Dawkins restructures, Orton is traded, and guys like Buckhalter, Marony, most of the returning Defensive players are released we should have a decent amount of spendable coin to bring in some pretty damn good FA

broncos-rock
07-25-2011, 02:49 PM
i want John Clay in Denver

i say no thanks to Deangelo Williams, but would be interested in Snelling and would jump for joy if we got Michael Bush

I read that Clay ran a 4.91 forty. I would rather have Noel Devine:strong:

BroncoMan4ever
07-25-2011, 02:55 PM
I read that Clay ran a 4.91 forty. I would rather have Noel Devine:strong:

i don't care about 40 time. realistically it is the most overrated workout number, as there are never any chances of running a straight line 40 in an NFL game.

Clay brings power, which this offense needs. we need a guy other than Tebow who can punch it into the end zone in a goal line situation or on a 3rd and short. Clay isn't a guy who is going to try and make people miss, he is going to hit his hole and knock the **** out of someone in his way.

tsiguy96
07-25-2011, 02:58 PM
meh is even any good anymore?
from what I have seen lately, havent been impressed

i think they released kelly gregg too...

broncos-rock
07-25-2011, 03:02 PM
i don't care about 40 time. realistically it is the most overrated workout number, as there are never any chances of running a straight line 40 in an NFL game.

Clay brings power, which this offense needs. we need a guy other than Tebow who can punch it into the end zone in a goal line situation or on a 3rd and short. Clay isn't a guy who is going to try and make people miss, he is going to hit his hole and knock the **** out of someone in his way.

I think we need a power guy too but 4.91 thats really really slow. Most d ends run that fast and I think its the most over/rated stat too. How about McClain from the Ravens?

epicSocialism4tw
07-25-2011, 03:02 PM
i am not too worried about the cap space. once Dawkins restructures, Orton is traded, and guys like Buckhalter, Marony, most of the returning Defensive players are released we should have a decent amount of spendable coin to bring in some pretty damn good FA

Dumping Moreno sounds like a good idea at this point.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-25-2011, 03:05 PM
I read that Clay ran a 4.91 forty. I would rather have Noel Devine:strong:

I'd want Devine too, or Locke. We havent had an effective scatback here in FOREVER. It'd be nice to have one

BroncoMan4ever
07-25-2011, 03:17 PM
I think we need a power guy too but 4.91 thats really really slow. Most d ends run that fast and I think its the most over/rated stat too. How about McClain from the Ravens?

i don't see Clay as a potential starter. i see him as a straight up the gut power runner. a situational guy. we need someone like that who can take the ball out of Tim's hands to prevent injury. i would much rather have a strong power guy like Clay who can be plugged in on short yardage and goal line situations instead of seeing Tim taking unnecessary hits.

my favorite scenario would be to have a 2 headed rushing attack of Moreno and someone like Snelling or Bush and a guy like Clay for short yardage


also, it hasn't been brought up. what about Reggie Bush? great speed, use him as kind of a swiss army knife player, occasional RB, WR and full time return man.

BroncoMan4ever
07-25-2011, 03:20 PM
I'd want Devine too, or Locke. We havent had an effective scatback here in FOREVER. It'd be nice to have one

i don't think a scat back can be effective for this team.

this running game is going to be the one cut and go ZBS again and scat backs don't seem to fit in it to my knowledge.

also, i am tired of undersized RBs in Denver. plus Moreno has supposedly gone sub 200lbs so he may be the scat back Denver needs. still need power though

broncos-rock
07-25-2011, 03:27 PM
i don't think a scat back can be effective for this team.

this running game is going to be the one cut and go ZBS again and scat backs don't seem to fit in it to my knowledge.

also, i am tired of undersized RBs in Denver. plus Moreno has supposedly gone sub 200lbs so he may be the scat back Denver needs. still need power though

I dont think Bush will be available! Isnt it nice to actually talk football!:spit:

oubronco
07-25-2011, 03:34 PM
I'd like to see a RB that could take it to the house on any given play for a change

SonOfLe-loLang
07-25-2011, 03:36 PM
i don't think a scat back can be effective for this team.

this running game is going to be the one cut and go ZBS again and scat backs don't seem to fit in it to my knowledge.

also, i am tired of undersized RBs in Denver. plus Moreno has supposedly gone sub 200lbs so he may be the scat back Denver needs. still need power though

You're crazy, with the amount of screens we run? We need elusive guys in open space.

BroncoMan4ever
07-25-2011, 04:36 PM
You're crazy, with the amount of screens we run? We need elusive guys in open space.

this isn't the McDaniels team anymore. who's to say that Fox and McCoy are going to run a screen every other play?

not only that but this team never gets the ball into the correct persons hands. our most elusive receiver that could be an absolute beast with screens has basically been a complete non factor the last 2 years. Eddie Royal

SonOfLe-loLang
07-25-2011, 05:16 PM
this isn't the McDaniels team anymore. who's to say that Fox and McCoy are going to run a screen every other play?

not only that but this team never gets the ball into the correct persons hands. our most elusive receiver that could be an absolute beast with screens has basically been a complete non factor the last 2 years. Eddie Royal

Did you watch the last 3 games of the season last year? Plus, timmy's good at em.

Killericon
07-25-2011, 05:51 PM
You're crazy, with the amount of screens we run? We need elusive guys in open space.

I doubt we'll be running as many screens as we did last year.

SoCalBronco
07-25-2011, 05:56 PM
As much as I hate to be in the position we're we will have to significantl overpay, its got to be Mebane, first and foremost.

StugotsIII
07-25-2011, 05:59 PM
DT is THE top priority...

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 06:04 PM
DT is THE top priority...

John Fox: "running back is our No. 1 priority (in free agency)," he said.

oubronco
07-25-2011, 06:05 PM
As much as I hate to be in the position we're we will have to significantl overpay, its got to be Mebane, first and foremost.

Or Cofield :strong:

oubronco
07-25-2011, 06:06 PM
John Fox: "running back is our No. 1 priority (in free agency)," he said.

I don't know MacGahee address's that statement bbut at least their trying to fix things

StugotsIII
07-25-2011, 06:06 PM
John Fox: "running back is our No. 1 priority (in free agency)," he said.

Either he is lying or he is retarded.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 06:19 PM
I don't know MacGahee address's that statement bbut at least their trying to fix things

Itd be almost as good as signing lendale white

oubronco
07-25-2011, 06:23 PM
Itd be almost as good as signing lendale white

speaking of White isn't he under contract? What kind of impact can he have coming off an torn achilles

oubronco
07-25-2011, 06:28 PM
After dropping Kelly Gregg, Willis McGahee, and Todd Heap, word has leaked out that the Ravens have also cut Derrick Mason per Jamison Hensley of the Baltimore Sun.

They are clearing alot of money to take a run at someone, hope it's not Mebane

DivineBronco
07-25-2011, 06:31 PM
After dropping Kelly Gregg, Willis McGahee, and Todd Heap, word has leaked out that the Ravens have also cut Derrick Mason per Jamison Hensley of the Baltimore Sun.

They are clearing alot of money to take a run at someone, hope it's not Mebane

god I hope not
almost has to be Nnamdi

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 06:37 PM
speaking of White isn't he under contract? What kind of impact can he have coming off an torn achilles

Yeah, it was a 2 year deal last year.

And who knows... is he finally going to put some effort into football?

SoCalBronco
07-25-2011, 06:40 PM
Yeah, it was a 2 year deal last year.

And who knows... is he finally going to put some effort into football?

From what I read, Black Hillis was working very hard in rehab and then in training. Hopefully he can contribute something this year.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 06:42 PM
From what I read, Black Hillis was working very hard in rehab and then in training. Hopefully he can contribute something this year.

LOL

Gets me every time (along with Rasputin)

oubronco
07-25-2011, 06:43 PM
Yeah, it was a 2 year deal last year.

And who knows... is he finally going to put some effort into football?

I thought I read somewhere that he was training really hard so maybe the proverbial lightbulb went off for him

KipCorrington25
07-25-2011, 06:45 PM
Dumping Moreno sounds like a good idea at this point.

He's down to 175 now he wants to be Glynn Milburn. ROFL!

Carmelo15
07-25-2011, 06:54 PM
All the best UDFAs are signing away and the Broncos have yet to sign anyone!

http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider

Great13
07-25-2011, 06:54 PM
Brandon Bing?

oubronco
07-25-2011, 06:55 PM
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz



Notre Dame DT Ian Williams to the 49ers!

Damn it

SoCalBronco
07-25-2011, 06:55 PM
Dammit....the Ravens signed Damien Berry. He would have been a good power complement to the ballerina.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 06:56 PM
C'mon Thornton!

oubronco
07-25-2011, 06:57 PM
http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/1388026928/WNTwitter_normal.jpg
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz@



@Bubba610 (http://twitter.com/Bubba610) Herzlich to Ravens, Burner to Panthers

19 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider/status/95668883662446593)


Would've like to have seen Herzlich a Bronco

24champ
07-25-2011, 06:58 PM
All the best UDFAs are signing away and the Broncos have yet to sign anyone!

http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider

There's a long pizza line at Pizza the pizza joint near Dove Valley. So Xanders is held up there and Elway is too busy twittering the fans.

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:01 PM
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz



Auburn DT Zach Clayton is a Titan

tsiguy96
07-25-2011, 07:02 PM
brandon bing, CB, rutgers is a bronco

correll buckhalter released

SoCalBronco
07-25-2011, 07:03 PM
There's a long pizza line at Pizza the pizza joint near Dove Valley. So Xanders is held up there and Elway is too busy twittering the fans.

http://i51.tinypic.com/2mg2m9s.jpg

Hat tip to Req

DBroncos4life
07-25-2011, 07:03 PM
brandon bing, CB, rutgers is a bronco

correll buckhalter released

The team needs more Huskers not less!!!

srphoenix
07-25-2011, 07:04 PM
Buckhalter's time was done, good move by the Broncos, he just couldn't stay healthy. Any word on what kind of a talent Brandon Bing is?

SoCalBronco
07-25-2011, 07:04 PM
brandon bing, CB, rutgers is a bronco

correll buckhalter released

Some CB depth is prolly good due to Cox's troubles.

Would like to see some DT's, though.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:05 PM
Ugh... it's really looking like they're getting pants-ed

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:06 PM
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz



DL Demarcus Dobbs, Georgia, to 49ers.

Niners signing D-line go figure

SoCalBronco
07-25-2011, 07:09 PM
Address the ****ing defensive line, already.

Put down the breadsticks Xanders and get on the ****ing phone.

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:10 PM
Is Bing the only one they've signed

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 07:14 PM
Dumping Moreno sounds like a good idea at this point.

Yes dumping the best back on our roster would be a great idea... :saywhat:

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:15 PM
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz



Florida Safety Will Hill to #Redskins (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Redskins)

Nice pickup by Shanny

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:20 PM
Michigan State WR Mark Dell to the Broncos.

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:20 PM
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz



Michigan State WR Mark Dell to the Broncos.

Carmelo15
07-25-2011, 07:21 PM
Marshall Williams WR, Wake Forest to Broncos

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:24 PM
Pouncing on those perimeter players lolz

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 07:24 PM
From what I read from Herzlich recently he wanted to play in a 3-4 team, so no surprise to me he went to one of the best 3-4 teams in the nation.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:24 PM
USC OL Kristofer O'Dowd is an Arizona Cardinal

GREAT pick up. I was SURE he was a mid-round pick :(

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 07:26 PM
Look at it this way if we dont address any real DT depth through UDFA we're going to have to do it via UFA or released players. Only so many rotations you can do with 2-3 DT's.

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:26 PM
Patrick Hill (FB, Miami)
Justin Jones (TE, Toledo)

Why are the Broncos going offense

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 07:26 PM
USC OL Kristofer O'Dowd is an Arizona Cardinal

GREAT pick up. I was SURE he was a mid-round pick :(

He was a 1st-2nd rounder about a year ago, his last 12-18 months have been horrible career wise.

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 07:27 PM
Patrick Hill (FB, Miami)
Justin Jones (TE, Toledo)

Why are the Broncos going offense

Probably because we drafted heavily on defense.

Great13
07-25-2011, 07:29 PM
FB Patrick Hill as well

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:29 PM
Patrick Hill (FB, Miami) to the Broncos.

Edit: Too slow

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 07:29 PM
Patrick Hill (FB, Miami)
Justin Jones (TE, Toledo)

Why are the Broncos going offense

First of all those two positions are pretty much completely empty on our roster.

Second they are undrafted free agents. They are not meant to address needs in the starting lineup. They are meant fill the roster and potentially provide depth.

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 07:29 PM
Who's this Auburn RB we agreed with Fannin??? Any good???

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:29 PM
Mario Fannin (RB, Auburn) to Broncos

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:31 PM
Auburn RB Mario Fannin to Broncos

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 07:32 PM
Is there a roster limitation under the new CBA cos we had 72 players going into today.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:33 PM
Who's this Auburn RB we agreed with Fannin??? Any good???

Fast. Great weight too. But not good.

We'll see. Measurables are fantastic, production no.

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 07:33 PM
Mario Fannin (RB, Auburn) to Broncos

Wasn't he the fastest back at the combine this year? Interesting...

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:36 PM
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz



BC LB Mark Herzlich has not decided on the Ravens. He is still deciding on a team. This news per his twitter.

55 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider/status/95683611549900802)

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:38 PM
Wasn't he the fastest back at the combine this year? Interesting...

Close. Scott from Maryland was the fastest but Fannin is 20 lbs bigger

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:40 PM
James Rogers (CB, Michigan) to Broncos

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 07:41 PM
Mario Fannin highlights for what it's worth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFRz7xxxQI8

At least he has potential physically. With good coaching who knows?

SoCalBronco
07-25-2011, 07:41 PM
Damn...that's two corners, already. Cox really is finished.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:42 PM
James Rogers (CB, Michigan) to Broncos

Yuck. He won't get to play Purdue in the NFL

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:43 PM
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz



Im hearing Kentucky RB Derrick Locke to the Rams. There it is everyone.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:43 PM
Mario Fannin highlights for what it's worth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFRz7xxxQI8

At least he has potential physically. With good coaching who knows?

He was anticipated coming into last year... injuries and fumbles blew him off the map. Not coaching.

Let's hope he's just a late bloomer.

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 07:44 PM
Damn...that's two corners, already. Cox really is finished.

They're UDFA's SoCal. What's the % that actually make NFL active rosters unless we're Green Bay these days.

Cox was a goner anyway regardless, I see us adding another CB in FA to compete/beat out Nathan Jones.

StugotsIII
07-25-2011, 07:45 PM
He was anticipated coming into last year... injuries and fumbles blew him off the map. Not coaching.

Let's hope he's just a late bloomer.

He is also not the prototypical spread option running back and couldn't translate his game to Auburns offense.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 07:46 PM
They're UDFA's SoCal. What's the % that actually make NFL active rosters unless we're Green Bay these days.

Cox was a goner anyway regardless, I see us adding another CB in FA to compete/beat out Nathan Jones.

We have 1 good corner on the roster and he's on the wrong side of 30.

We need a youth and talent injection at the position BADLY. Granted, we're still missing the talent part.

Hopefully Joseph fixes that this week :)

eddie mac
07-25-2011, 07:50 PM
We have 1 good corner on the roster and he's on the wrong side of 30.

We need a youth and talent injection at the position BADLY. Granted, we're still missing the talent part.

Hopefully Joseph fixes that this week :)

I think Goodman's not too bad and Thompson has shown some flashes. Need a better pass rush so QB's dont have all day to find an open man. Hopefully the return of Doom and addition of Miller improve that side of things.

oubronco
07-25-2011, 07:52 PM
NFLDraftInsider WVU RB Noel Devine to Falcons

cutthemdown
07-25-2011, 07:56 PM
Obviously Broncos have to squeeze another yr out of Goodman.

Great13
07-25-2011, 08:03 PM
Marshall Williams video-

http://youtu.be/80Blyux_tec

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 08:51 PM
He was anticipated coming into last year... injuries and fumbles blew him off the map. Not coaching.

Let's hope he's just a late bloomer.

Fumbles can be the result of poor coaching, as in a lack of emphasis on the fundamentals of ball security.

All I can say is he looks quite a bit more talented than your average UDFA. So here's hoping he works his ass off and makes the most of this opportunity.

TheReverend
07-25-2011, 08:53 PM
Fumbles can be the result of poor coaching, as in a lack of emphasis on the fundamentals of ball security.

All I can say is he looks quite a bit more talented than your average UDFA. So here's hoping he works his ass off and makes the most of this opportunity.

Yeah I dont really agree... almost every UDFA has the same story. OR they didn't have the measurables at all. But it's generally those two camps.

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 08:55 PM
Obviously Broncos have to squeeze another yr out of Goodman.

Goodman is a solid #2 CB. No need to replace him just yet, not when we have real needs in a lot of other areas.

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 08:57 PM
Yeah I dont really agree... almost every UDFA has the same story. OR they didn't have the measurables at all. But it's generally those two camps.

Most UDFA RBs do not have his combination of speed and size. Not even close.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-25-2011, 09:53 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_2011_nfl_free_agents_tracker_072511



Big list of free agents:



1. CB Nnamdi Asomugha(notes) – It is truly a rare thing when a player this good and who is this good of a person hits free agency.


2. CB Antonio Cromartie(notes) – When you draw up what a corner is supposed to look like, Cromartie is what you see. However, he has issues and he’s tough for coaches to handle.


3. CB Johnathan Joseph(notes) – He’s more consistent and trustworthy than Cromartie, but he has also missed 12 games over the past three seasons because of injuries and he’s only 5-foot-11.


4. WR Sidney Rice(notes) – Missed first 10 games of 2010, so this is a projection based on his great 2009 season. But he is the prototype deep threat, big receiver when he’s healthy.


5. WR Santonio Holmes(notes) – Pretty good first season in New York and the Jets would like to keep him. He’s great after the catch. The biggest concern is the off-field issues.

6. WR Braylon Edwards(notes) – Posted his best yards-after-catch average (5.7) since his rookie season. Would be better with a better passing attack. Could use a dose of humility.


*7. RB DeAngelo Williams(notes) – Missed 13 games the past two seasons with injuries, but is amazingly explosive when he’s right. In a spread offense, he might run for 2,000 yards.


8. TE Zach Miller (Raiders) – In a great era for receiving tight ends, Miller is underrated. He has performed very well while having no support from the wide receiver or quarterback spots.


*9. DE/LB Mathias Kiwanuka(notes) – Purely on talent, Kiwanuka belongs in the top 10. However, his lingering neck injury means he’ll be lucky to get a one-year deal.


*10. WR Steve Smith (Giants) – Microfracture surgery is no joke and Smith had that on his left knee in December. If he was healthy, he’d be the top wide receiver on this list.

11. CB Ike Taylor(notes) – Taylor is definitely a notch below Asomugha, Cromartie and Joseph, but he’s also durable and can play just about any system. Will get paid by somebody.


12. DE Charles Johnson(notes) – Johnson picked a good time to a have a breakout season with 12 sacks, even if they did come for a hopelessly bad Carolina team. Pass rushers get paid.

13. CB Carlos Rogers(notes) – He has never quite become the great player that so many people expected, but he’s still very good, much like Taylor.

14. DT Cullen Jenkins(notes) – Has missed 17 games in the past three seasons because of injuries and his health was a knock even before that. However, when he plays, he’s a force.

15. QB Matt Hasselbeck(notes) – If the world is right, Hasselbeck finishes his career in Seattle as the greatest QB in the history of the organization (not that there is much competition).


16. CB Chris Houston(notes) – Finally got his career going the right way in Detroit after three up-and-down seasons with Atlanta. Lions want to sign him long-term in a serious way.


17. DE Ray Edwards(notes) – Even in a bad season for the Vikings, Edwards had eight sacks. He’s not a superb talent, but a wonderful complementary player in the right system.


18. DT Barry Cofield(notes) – Has just enough pass-rush ability to play occasionally on third down. That fact should make him a fair amount of money.


19. LT Jermon Bushrod(notes) – Unheralded former fourth-round pick has turned himself into an above average left tackle in a pass-oriented offense. What else needs to be said?


20. LT Charlie Johnson(notes) – Hasn’t been as consistent as Bushrod, but is more experienced. Don’t think for a second that the Colts really want to let him go.


21. LT Jeremy Trueblood(notes) – Again, it’s not often that capable offensive tackles get to free agency. Like Bushrod and Johnson, Trueblood isn’t an All-Pro, but he’s a good pro.


22. G Davin Joseph(notes) – Hasn’t quite achieved everything expected of him, but he has been a solid player and he’s still young (27). On the offensive line, that’s enough.


23. LB Paul Posluszny(notes) – In three of his four seasons, he has at least 110 tackles, including 151 last season. In three of his four seasons, he has also missed at least two games.

24. LB Barrett Ruud(notes) – Not as physically gifted at Posluszny, but has been healthier throughout his career and that can’t be understated.


25. LB/DE Manny Lawson(notes) – Hasn’t become the kind of pass rusher the 49ers expected, but is also asked to do more things in coverage in the 3-4 scheme they have run until now.


26. LT Doug Free(notes) – Like Bushrod, Free is a former fourth-round pick who has turned himself into a solid left tackle, even if he’s simply not that good an athlete for the spot.


27. S Eric Weddle(notes) – If Weddle had better players in front of him with San Diego, he might be considered one of the best in the league. For now, he’s simply really good.

28. NT Aubrayo Franklin(notes) – Won’t put up a lot of stats and won’t wow anybody with physical ability, but he’s a terrific nose man in a 3-4 scheme and that’s valuable.


29. WR Mike Sims-Walker(notes) – Took a step backward in his development last season, but is still a good No. 2. Not exactly explosive, but he’s better than your typical possession guy.


30. RB Ahmad Bradshaw(notes) – He’s one tough nut, but he probably runs too hard for his own good and for his size (5-9, 198 pounds). Chances of him having a long career are remote, at best.


31. CB Eric Wright(notes) – Seemed on his way to great things until taking a detour this year. He was so bad at times that he got death threats – not that such fan behavior is acceptable. Then again, CBs get a lot of lives in the NFL.


32. S Melvin Bullitt(notes) – Missed 12 games last season because of injury, but has become one of the better all-around safeties in the game. Indy really needs to re-sign him.


33. WR Randy Moss(notes) – Moss is at his best when everybody thinks he’s done. He may not have much time left, but he’s worth a low-cost flyer at this point.


34. RT Tyson Clabo(notes) – Not many guys work their way from being undrafted to the practice squad to the Pro Bowl. That said, Clabo is not capable of playing left tackle.

35. G Harvey Dahl(notes) – Like teammate Clabo, Dahl is a former undrafted guy who has made a career for himself. However, right guards are really not that hard to find.

36. RB Cedric Benson(notes) – Back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons are pretty nice work for a guy who was once considered a washout. Benson isn’t electric, but he’s a workhorse.


37. RB Michael Bush(notes) – Really good power runner, but has never been the bell cow runner (his 158 carries last season was a career-high). He tends to tire quickly, perhaps limiting himself to small role.

38. RT Sean Locklear(notes) – Another offensive tackle who can’t play the left side, but is reasonably athletic for the right side. He may not be great, but he’ll get paid.

39. LT Matt Light(notes) – Has it really been 10 years of watching Light use his middling skills to become one of the most consistent left tackles in the game? Yes, and he has a few more in him.

40. RT Damien Woody(notes) – This guy is proof that you don’t have to be great to make a lot of money in the NFL.

41. TE Bo Scaife(notes) – He makes just enough plays every year for people to think he’s interesting, but the final production is just never really there.

42. G Robert Gallery(notes) – After failing at left tackle, Gallery has become a solid guard. He was the best OL the Raiders had the past two years, which is damning with faint praise.


43. TE Kevin Boss(notes) – Boss is the opposite of Scaife, a guy who doesn’t flash much talent, but ends up being very productive. He has never averaged less than 11 yards a catch per season.

44. CB Brent Grimes – Quick but undersized ballhawk who has come up with 11 interceptions the past two seasons.


45. WR Lance Moore(notes) – There are some people who believe that Moore’s flaws will be exposed if he plays with a team other than the Saints. Maybe, but somebody will take a chance.

46. DT Shaun Cody(notes) – Not even somewhat, sort of explosive as a pass rusher. He’s a pure run defender, at best a two-down player. But he’s good at that and that’s enough.


47. C Olin Kreutz(notes) – He’s only 41, but there’s 13 years of NFL trench play on that body. Kreutz is one tough hombre, but he wants to finish as a Bear.


48. DT Brandon Mebane(notes) – The key is he’s still young (26). The problem is that he’s quickly losing the bit of pass-rush skill he had early in his career. In danger of being a two-down guy.


49. S Donte Whitner(notes) – Somebody will look at his 140 tackles last year and think, “Whitner must have been awesome.” The reality is that the Bills were that bad.


50. LB Stewart Bradley(notes) – At one time, he was an up-and-coming standout at MLB. After missing 20 games in the past two seasons, he’s working on just getting on the field consistently.

51. RB Ronnie Brown(notes) – In six years, he has cracked 1,000 just once and barely at that (1,008 in 2006). Good guy, but everything about him screams mediocrity.

52. WR Malcom Floyd(notes) – He’s not fast, but he uses his 6-5 frame very well, which is why he has averaged an impressive 17.3 yards per catch for his career.


53. LT Jared Gaither(notes) – The talent is there for him to be better than guys like Bushrod and Trueblood, but a combination of injuries and attitude have gotten in the way.

54. DT Ronald Fields(notes) – Cut from the mold of Cody. Fields is a good run defender and well-suited for a 3-4 defense, but he’s a two-down player, at best.


55. S Dawan Landry(notes) – He has been overshadowed by Ed Reed(notes) for years, but Landry has become one of the more consistent tacklers in the league. Plays the run very well.


56. WR Plaxico Burress – After two years away from the game, questions about his conditioning are a given. However, his red-zone receiving skills also raise concerns.

57. S Dashon Goldson(notes) – Very similar to Landry. The only difference between Goldson and Landry is that Landry has been more consistent for a longer time.

58. S Quintin Mikell(notes) – Put Landry, Goldson and Mikell side-by-side in football gear and you’d have a hard time picking them apart. Mikell (30) is just the oldest of the three.


59. OL Marshal Yanda(notes) – Yanda has played most of his career at guard, where he’s pretty good. He has also played right tackle, which makes him valuable.

60. DL Anthony Hargrove(notes) – The most important thing is that it appears Hargrove has handled his drug issues. When he’s straight and healthy, he has great tackle/end versatility.

61. DL Marcus Spears(notes) – For the first time, Spears didn’t play in every game. The problem is that he’s a completely average player, a classic underachiever.


62. G Daryn Colledge(notes) – Any way you look at Colledge, he’s a limited player. He can only play guard and some people think he’s not that good. But he’s experienced.


63. DE Jacob Ford(notes) – In 2008, playing next to a motivated Albert Haynesworth(notes), Ford had seven sacks. Since Haynesworth left, Ford has 8½ sacks over the past two seasons.


64. DL Tony McDaniel(notes) – At 6-7, 305 pounds, McDaniel looks the part, but he’s just not very motivated. Flashed some pass-rush ability last season.

65. CB Drayton Florence(notes) – After a disastrous 2008 season in Jacksonville, Florence has rehabbed his reputation. Corners can play forever in this league if they’re decent.

66. DE/LB Jason Taylor(notes) – He has to be used carefully because age (36) and injury are catching up, but he still has a little something left in the tank if he wants to play.

67. WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh(notes) – When he left Cincinnati, more than a few people with the Bengals privately said a meltdown of his career was coming. How right they were.

*68. WR Mark Clayton(notes) – It’s the same old story with Clayton, who is coming off a torn patellar tendon in his right knee that cost him 11 games. He flashed some talent last season and then got hurt.


69. Steve Breaston(notes) – He’s a tough guy, but he’s also a little small (189 pounds). He missed three games because of a knee injury early and wore out in the second half of the season.

70. CB Fabian Washington(notes) – He can run all day, but he’s practically guaranteed to get hurt and miss at least a few games. Beyond that, he hasn’t had an interception since 2008.


71. RB Joseph Addai(notes) – Under the heading of “Disposable Running Backs,” you will see a picture of Addai. He has been plagued by injuries the last three seasons.


72. LB Justin Durant(notes) – He should be way better than he really is, but he gets hurt every year and his instincts are just average.

73. C Chris Spencer(notes) – Pretty good player, overall, but hasn’t lived up to the expectation that went with being a first-round pick.

74. S Roman Harper(notes) – Pretty much your typical safety. He will consistently make the tackle, but he doesn’t do enough other stuff to be in high demand.


75. QB Alex Smith – Considering the goofiness of the past six years in San Francisco, Smith has actually been OK. All indications are that he’ll get a fresh start with new Niners coach Jim Harbaugh.

*76. LB Thomas Davis(notes) – Former first-rounder has missed the past year and a half with injuries, but is very athletic and a good tackler when healthy.

77. DT Ron Edwards(notes) – He’s a poor man’s version of a part-time defensive tackle (yeah, he’s seriously limited). He can fill out a rotation, but he’ll never crack the regular lineup.

78. K Adam Vinatieri(notes) – We might as well start a run of kickers with a guy with Hall of Fame cred. He’s clutch, had a great year, but he’s also 38 and injury-prone.


79. K Mason Crosby(notes) – Probably not getting out of Green Bay anytime soon. He has a strong leg (10 FGs of 50-plus in four years) and he’s great in bad weather.

*80. WR Terrell Owens(notes) – Despite his agent’s insistence that he’ll be ready to go by the start of the season, offseason knee surgery severely impacts his prospects.

81. K Ryan Longwell(notes) – Over the past two years, Longwell is 43 of 46 on field goals and has moved into ninth all-time in accuracy. He’s also 36 and spent the past five years inside.

82. K Olindo Mare(notes) – Has strung together three straight good years in Seattle after a slight downward trend. Still has great leg strength on kickoffs, but he is 38.

83. QB Marc Bulger(notes) – It will be interesting to see if Bulger is still viewed as worthy of starting. If so, Minnesota and Arizona may have some interest.


84. WR James Jones(notes) – This dude has all the talent in the world to be great. But when you drop two potential TD passes in the postseason, including one in the Super Bowl, people wonder.


*85. OT Willie Colon(notes) – I’m not sure what it is about this guy that the Steelers like so much, but they do. He missed all of 2010 with a torn Achilles’ tendon.


86. G Deuce Lutui(notes) – If he could keep his weight under control, Lutui could be a great player. However, he’s constantly pushing 400 pounds.

87. DT Kevin Vickerson(notes) – It has taken awhile, but Vickerson finally figured out how to be a functional pro. He’s very limited in his role, but big-body guys are hard to find.


88. DE Ray McDonald(notes) – When you’ve only had five sacks in four seasons, you’re not exactly in high demand. However, the need for defensive linemen is constant.


89. S Abram Elam(notes) – He has carved out a decent career, but safeties aren’t that hard to find and he has no special characteristics.


90. RB Ricky Williams(notes) – At age 33 and after 12 years of one of the strangest careers in NFL history, Williams will be a free agent for the first time. Man, what could have been.

91. LB Ben Leber(notes) – Your prototype fourth linebacker who can fit in just about any spot in a pinch and does a nice job on special teams.

92. C Casey Wiegmann(notes) – If he plays again, it’s almost certain to be with Kansas City. At age 38, Wiegmann’s days of moving around the league are probably past him.

93. LB Ernie Sims(notes) – Sims did not earn the nickname “Cinnabon” because he gets eaten alive when he plays, but it sure works that way.


94. S Jarrad Page(notes) – Injuries and inconsistency have derailed what appeared to be a promising career for Page. There are still coaches who like him, but he’s not a priority.


*95. LB Clint Session(notes) – He is your typical Indianapolis linebacker. Session will run hard to the ball, make his fair share of tackles, but won’t make a lot of big plays.

96. S George Wilson(notes) – He had one solid year as a starter in 2009, but hasn’t done much before or since. He’s closing in on 30, so this is probably his last shot.

97. LB Kirk Morrison(notes) – He is an example of why tackle totals are one of the worst stats to follow. He has averaged 100 tackles a year for six years. But he’s completely average.

98. G Trai Essex(notes) – One of the many complete mediocre offensive linemen that the Steelers have collected over the past five years. Prototype JAG (“Just A Guy”).

99. LB Stephen Cooper(notes) – He has toggled his way through eight seasons as a part-time starter and backup, all the while playing well on special teams.


100. RB Brandon Jackson(notes) – He had yet another chance this season to become the starting running back with the Packers and let it slip out of his hands. Pretty decent as a third-down guy.



Who do you want?

epicSocialism4tw
07-25-2011, 09:57 PM
^ THAT is a list. Ha!

StugotsIII
07-25-2011, 09:58 PM
An notes on restricted/unrestricted?

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 10:04 PM
In a spread offense DeAngelo Williams might run for 2000 yards? Oh that's some special kind of stupid right there...

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-25-2011, 10:05 PM
I just copy and pasted from yahoo.

Shananahan
07-25-2011, 10:08 PM
Is it really necessary to copy and paste the entire gigantic list when you've already posted a link to it?

Agamemnon
07-25-2011, 10:09 PM
I just copy and pasted from yahoo.

I know. My comment wasn't directed at you.

Requiem
07-26-2011, 01:45 AM
Is it really necessary to copy and paste the entire gigantic list when you've already posted a link to it?

No, but look who posted it.

bigbucks24
07-26-2011, 05:20 AM
Orton to Miami for a 3rd.

Ratboy
07-26-2011, 06:31 AM
Broncos interested in McGahee... I hope they don't get him, I guess they are desperate for a RB.

Dedhed
07-26-2011, 06:52 AM
Maybe we should edit the thread title given that we're inside of ten minutes.

Drek
07-26-2011, 07:18 AM
Most UDFA RBs do not have his combination of speed and size. Not even close.

Please. Every year there are all world athletes who lack real football skills who go undrafted, get signed, fans get hyped, and then they're cut come the first series of roster trimming.

Mario Fannin's best hope to stick here is to show some FB/RB versatility in camp. We signed another FB already so its clear we want a positional battle at FB. Fannin has the size and is the best athlete of the bunch with more experience carrying the ball and catching out of the backfield. Thats a strong plus for him. The chances of him being a big difference maker at RB though are very slim.

Lev Vyvanse
07-26-2011, 09:23 AM
Looks like Jarvis Moss resigned with Oakland.ROFL!

Gcver2ver3
07-26-2011, 09:28 AM
"Willis McGahee is eying Denver as a landing spot once his release from the Ravens becomes official."
for more details:
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2265/willis-mcgahee

Gcver2ver3
07-26-2011, 09:36 AM
Nick Barnett cut...

he's only 30yrs old...

StugotsIII
07-26-2011, 09:38 AM
Nick Barnett cut...

he's only 30yrs old...

Yes please.

Gcver2ver3
07-26-2011, 09:40 AM
Mike Brown finally concedes that Palmer is retired...

so now both the coach and owner say Carson is retired and they wish him well and are moving on...

wouldnt that put Cincy in the market ofr a QB?...

or are they happy with what they have?...

Tombstone RJ
07-26-2011, 09:42 AM
Mike Brown finally concedes that Palmer is retired...

so now both the coach and owner say Carson is retired and they wish him well and are moving on...

wouldnt that put Cincy in the market ofr a QB?...

or are they happy with what they have?...

They'll go with Dalton...

oubronco
07-26-2011, 09:49 AM
Nick Barnett cut...

he's only 30yrs old...

We could use him

s0phr0syne
07-26-2011, 09:53 AM
Since there's some talk that Nick Barnett may be released by GB, I think that'd be a great FA target, depending on the price he commands. He was one of the leagues most consistent top performers as a 4-3 MLB prior to their shift to the 3-4, where he still played well.

Of course, the downside would be cutting out Mays opportunity and reducing the snaps to develop Irving.

What a narcissist I am. But I loves me some me.

Cmac821
07-26-2011, 09:57 AM
Pretty good list of our new UDFA http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-broncos/2011/7/26/2294631/undrafted-free-agents-denver-broncos-2011
Brandon Bing (http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-broncos/2011/ncaa-football/players/37570/brandon-bing), CB, Rutgers
Marshall Williams (http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-broncos/2011/ncaa-football/players/5658/marshall-williams), WR, Wake Forest
Mark Dell (http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-broncos/2011/ncaa-football/players/6896/mark-dell), WR, Michigan State
Patrick Hill (http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-broncos/2011/ncaa-football/players/36662/patrick-hill), FB, Miami<STRIKE></STRIKE>
Mario Fannin (http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-broncos/2011/ncaa-football/players/10082/mario-fannin), RB, Auburn
James Rogers (http://denver.sbnation.com/denver-broncos/2011/ncaa-football/players/6827/james-rogers), CB, Michigan
Chris Harris, CB, Kansas
Colby Whitlock, DL, Texas Tech
<STRIKE>Nick Bellore, LB, Central Michigan</STRIKE> (Bellore tweeted the Jets on Tuesday morning (http://twitter.com/#!/NickBellore/status/95861693929885696))
Deron Mayo, DE, Old Dominion
Curt Porter, OT, Jacksonville State

Inkana7
07-26-2011, 10:00 AM
Free agent DeAngelo Williams said Monday that he wants to retire as a lifelong Panther and will give Carolina the "first stab" at him.

Williams will meet with Panthers GM Marty Hurney Tuesday and genuinely sounds like he wants to stay. The Panthers are likely going to pitch him on new packages that feature both he and Jonathan Stewart on the field at the same time. Williams would be crazy not to at least test the open market as the best running back available, but for now signs point toward the

oubronco
07-26-2011, 10:03 AM
ESPN's Chris Mortensen advises to "watch out" for the Lions pursuing free agent CB Johnathan Joseph.

We've seen plenty of rumblings connecting Joseph to Detroit. The Lions need a top corner, are unwilling to pay Nnamdi Asomugha, and prefer Joseph to Antonio Cromartie. The Bengals have placed a higher priority on re-signing Leon Hall.
Related: Lions (http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/clubhouse/nfl/det/lions)

Source: Chris Mortensen on Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/mortreport/statuses/95899094224093184)
Jul 26, 12:58 PM

Beantown Bronco
07-26-2011, 10:11 AM
NFLDraftInsider (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider)Jared Tokarz



BC LB Mark Herzlich has not decided on the Ravens. He is still deciding on a team. This news per his twitter.

55 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider/status/95683611549900802)

He signed with the Giants.

oubronco
07-26-2011, 02:26 PM
mortreport (http://twitter.com/#!/mortreport)Chris Mortensen



I'd say DeAngelo Williams is now Panthers vs. Broncos at this moment.

1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/#!/mortreport/status/95936966952099840)

Comeon make it happen EFX

Doggcow
07-26-2011, 02:38 PM
Free agent DeAngelo Williams said Monday that he wants to retire as a lifelong Panther and will give Carolina the "first stab" at him.

Williams will meet with Panthers GM Marty Hurney Tuesday and genuinely sounds like he wants to stay. The Panthers are likely going to pitch him on new packages that feature both he and Jonathan Stewart on the field at the same time. Williams would be crazy not to at least test the open market as the best running back available, but for now signs point toward the

I'm honestly OK with that.

I rode DeAngelo in fantasy that monster year but I've never really been a big fan of him, idk why.

KevinJames
07-26-2011, 02:43 PM
If we can't get D. Williams how do you guys feel about Jerome Harrison?

Carmelo15
07-26-2011, 02:44 PM
Lee Rasizer - Broncos take wait-and-see approach with CB Cox
To date, CB Perrish Cox has been given no indication that he's unwelcome at training camp, despite sordid details emerging publicly in the player's pending sexual assault lawsuit. Team president Joe Ellis said Monday the club would let the legal process run its course and the team could "move on that later."

Falcons, Broncos among those competing for DE Johnson
Free agent DE Charles Johnson is being pursued by Carolina, Atlanta and Denver, he said. As with all unrestricted free agents, Johnson can’t sign a contract until Friday, but rest assured the Panthers have made getting him signed their top priority. “(The Panthers) threw an offer out but I have to see what happens,” Johnson said.

UFA DT Marcus Thomas "open to everybody"
The agent for UFA DT Marcus Thomas spoke with Broncos brass Tuesday but nothing is imminent with Denver or another club. Richard Burnoski said his client is "open to everybody" and doesn't expect a contract resolution until week's end

Lee Rasizer - Broncos look to restructure Dawkins' contract
The Broncos, as expected, have reached out to S Brian Dawkins about a contract restructuring to keep him in Denver. Both sides are amenable. Dawkins won't take the field until the numbers are rehashed.

HooptyHoops
07-26-2011, 02:47 PM
Lee Rasizer - Broncos take wait-and-see approach with CB Cox
To date, CB Perrish Cox has been given no indication that he's unwelcome at training camp, despite sordid details emerging publicly in the player's pending sexual assault lawsuit. Team president Joe Ellis said Monday the club would let the legal process run its course and the team could "move on that later."

Falcons, Broncos among those competing for DE Johnson
Free agent DE Charles Johnson is being pursued by Carolina, Atlanta and Denver, he said. As with all unrestricted free agents, Johnson can’t sign a contract until Friday, but rest assured the Panthers have made getting him signed their top priority. “(The Panthers) threw an offer out but I have to see what happens,” Johnson said.

UFA DT Marcus Thomas "open to everybody"
The agent for UFA DT Marcus Thomas spoke with Broncos brass Tuesday but nothing is imminent with Denver or another club. Richard Burnoski said his client is "open to everybody" and doesn't expect a contract resolution until week's end

Lee Rasizer - Broncos look to restructure Dawkins' contract
The Broncos, as expected, have reached out to S Brian Dawkins about a contract restructuring to keep him in Denver. Both sides are amenable. Dawkins won't take the field until the numbers are rehashed.

Wow, we are going after Johnson....awesome, but what about some DT's?

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 02:48 PM
Stewart Bradley is going to be available....

Carmelo15
07-26-2011, 02:49 PM
Wow, we are going after Johnson....awesome, but what about some DT's?

I guess I spoke too soon:

Panthers defensive end Charles Johnson was expected to be a sought-after free agent, but he won’t be going anywhere.

A league source tells PFT that the Panthers and Johnson have agreed on a deal that will keep Johnson in Carolina.

The Panthers’ front office and Johnson’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, have worked out a six-year, $76 million deal with $32 million guaranteed, including a $30 million signing bonus.

The 25-year-old Johnson started all 16 games for the Panthers last season and recorded 11.5 sacks.

mkporter
07-26-2011, 02:51 PM
I guess I spoke too soon:

Panthers defensive end Charles Johnson was expected to be a sought-after free agent, but he won’t be going anywhere.

A league source tells PFT that the Panthers and Johnson have agreed on a deal that will keep Johnson in Carolina.

The Panthers’ front office and Johnson’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, have worked out a six-year, $76 million deal with $32 million guaranteed, including a $30 million signing bonus.

The 25-year-old Johnson started all 16 games for the Panthers last season and recorded 11.5 sacks.

I wonder if Johnson's big payday makes it more likely that we end up wit DeAngelo.

diehardbroncosfan
07-26-2011, 02:53 PM
I guess I spoke too soon:

Panthers defensive end Charles Johnson was expected to be a sought-after free agent, but he won’t be going anywhere.

A league source tells PFT that the Panthers and Johnson have agreed on a deal that will keep Johnson in Carolina.

The Panthers’ front office and Johnson’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, have worked out a six-year, $76 million deal with $32 million guaranteed, including a $30 million signing bonus.

The 25-year-old Johnson started all 16 games for the Panthers last season and recorded 11.5 sacks.

Sheesh. I would have liked Johnson, but there's no way we could put that kind of money up for a DE with Doom and Ayers already here. Hope we get Deangleo now.

oubronco
07-26-2011, 02:53 PM
Wow, we are going after Johnson....awesome, but what about some DT's?

He resigned with Carolina

Doggcow
07-26-2011, 02:57 PM
He resigned with Carolina

For bank.

I'm ok with letting that slip by.

Carmelo15
07-26-2011, 02:57 PM
Wow, we are going after Johnson....awesome, but what about some DT's?

Per Denver Post our DT targets are Cullen Jenkins, Aubrayo Franklin, Brandon Mebane & Derek Landri

diehardbroncosfan
07-26-2011, 02:59 PM
Per Denver Post our DT targets are Cullen Jenkins, Aubrayo Franklin, Brandon Mebane & Derek Landri

Given Fox's connection I think it's almost a no brainer we wind up with Landri and then hopefully either Mebane or Franklin. I think Jenkins will end up with Shanny.

Doggcow
07-26-2011, 03:02 PM
Given Fox's connection I think it's almost a no brainer we wind up with Landri and then hopefully either Mebane or Franklin. I think Jenkins will end up with Shanny.

I will JIZZ IN MY PANTS if we get Landri and Franklin/Mebane

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phibacka31
07-26-2011, 03:03 PM
Per Denver Post our DT targets are Cullen Jenkins, Aubrayo Franklin, Brandon Mebane & Derek Landri

I LOVE this list... honestly

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 03:24 PM
Per Denver Post our DT targets are Cullen Jenkins, Aubrayo Franklin, Brandon Mebane & Derek Landri

Nice.

This is the list that we should have. I'd be stoked for any of Jenkins/Franklin/Mebane. Especially Mebane, who is a solid run stuffer who could help open things up for our ends to do their thing.

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 03:29 PM
Nice.

This is the list that we should have. I'd be stoked for any of Jenkins/Franklin/Mebane. Especially Mebane, who is a solid run stuffer who could help open things up for our ends to do their thing.

Seattle currently trying to resign him.

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 03:31 PM
Seahawks are taking a pass on Hasselbeck. Orton for them?

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 03:32 PM
Charles Johnson resigns with Panthers.

Tavaris Jackson with Seahawks. (if this is a Hasselbeck replacement, they just took a big step backward)

Baba Booey
07-26-2011, 03:35 PM
If we end up with Williams and two of those DT's, I'd climax with the force of a thousand tomahawk missiles.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9550/1310796873613.jpg

KevinJames
07-26-2011, 03:42 PM
Broncos going after LB Thomas Davis and RB DeAngelo Williams.

Inkana7
07-26-2011, 03:43 PM
Thomas Davis is a good SLB when not injured.

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 03:43 PM
Broncos going after LB Thomas Davis and RB DeAngelo Williams.

I bet Thomas Davis ends up here, which would be interesting.

Baba Booey
07-26-2011, 03:44 PM
Forgive me for my ignorance, but does Davis play ILB or OLB?

Edit: Nvm, SLB - just saw Inkana's post above.

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 03:44 PM
Forgive me for my ignorance, but does Davis play ILB or OLB?

OLB

He's a converted safety.

Wtf for DJ?

oubronco
07-26-2011, 03:46 PM
Per Denver Post our DT targets are Cullen Jenkins, Aubrayo Franklin, Brandon Mebane & Derek Landri

Add Cofield to that list and i'll take all of them for the win!!!

Baba Booey
07-26-2011, 03:47 PM
OLB

He's a converted safety.

Wtf for DJ?

That's what I thought - I remember him playing S at Georgia.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 03:49 PM
OLB

He's a converted safety.

Wtf for DJ?

Probably back to MLB. He remains the best option there honestly.

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 03:51 PM
Probably back to MLB. He remains the best option there honestly.

We drafted a billion LB'ers for a reason

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 03:54 PM
We drafted a billion LB'ers for a reason

Nate Irving is a 3rd rounder. I wouldn't rely on him being ready to start at MLB.

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 03:57 PM
Nate Irving is a 3rd rounder. I wouldn't rely on him being ready to start at MLB.

Yes, what I meant was between current on the roster potential stop gaps like Mays and Haggan, drafted players and guys that are going to be available on the market like Stewart Bradley, this move doesn't make sense.

Inkana7
07-26-2011, 03:59 PM
Thomas Davis played SLB in Carolina. Do we even have one of those?

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 04:07 PM
Thomas Davis played SLB in Carolina. Do we even have one of those?

We kinda just spent the #2 overall selection on it...

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 04:08 PM
We kinda just spent the #2 overall selection on it...

He'd be a MLB here.

Inkana7
07-26-2011, 04:08 PM
We kinda just spent the #2 overall selection on it...

Holy **** I need to remember how to think about football again.

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 04:08 PM
He'd be a MLB here.

Thomas Davis?

Gtfo

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 04:14 PM
Thomas Davis?

Gtfo

They obviously wouldn't be signing him to play Miller's spot.

I imagine that they want a versatile guy so that they can play Miller at DE occasionally on passing downs.

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 04:18 PM
They obviously wouldn't be signing him to play Miller's spot.

I imagine that they want a versatile guy so that they can play Miller at DE occasionally on passing downs.

He's not a "traffic player". Not even close.

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 04:22 PM
He's not a "traffic player". Not even close.

He has played the position before.

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 04:22 PM
Thomas Davis played SLB in Carolina. Do we even have one of those?

Btw, he was a Will not a Sam. Think you're thinking of fellow FA James Anderson.

TheReverend
07-26-2011, 04:23 PM
He has played the position before.

Yeah, no. No he hasn't.

Carmelo15
07-26-2011, 04:26 PM
If we signed Thomas Davis, Fox likely moves D.J. back to the middle. We're not cutting or trading D.J. so just get over that thought haters.

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 04:28 PM
If we signed Thomas Davis, Fox likely moves D.J. back to the middle. We're not cutting or trading D.J. so just get over that thought haters.

Yeah, I would imagine that that would be probable.

Fox is a speed backer type, and it makes sense that he'd play DJ there.

Carmelo15
07-26-2011, 04:30 PM
Davis-D.J.-Von is definitely a lot of speed

Dedhed
07-26-2011, 04:31 PM
If we signed Thomas Davis, Fox likely moves D.J. back to the middle. We're not cutting or trading D.J. so just get over that thought haters.

I just threw up on my shoes.










And I'm wearing flip-flops.

UberBroncoMan
07-26-2011, 04:31 PM
Thomas Davis makes absolutely no sense here unless it's at MLB, and that alone makes no sense.

We have Miller - (?) - DJ

Would he want to be a backup??? Doesn't make much sense to me.

UberBroncoMan
07-26-2011, 04:33 PM
Davis-D.J.-Von is definitely a lot of speed

DJ's best years in the NFL were as a WLB in a 3-4. He was good at MLB but not WLB good.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 04:43 PM
Thomas Davis makes absolutely no sense here unless it's at MLB, and that alone makes no sense.

We have Miller - (?) - DJ

Would he want to be a backup??? Doesn't make much sense to me.

DJ remains our best option at MLB as well as WLB. The acquisition of Davis would likely mean Williams moves to MLB. Williams was a solid MLB (behind a terrible line). I really don't get why so many seem to think otherwise.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 04:44 PM
DJ's best years in the NFL were as a WLB in a 3-4. He was good at MLB but not WLB good.

Gotta disagree. I think he was better at MLB than as an ILB.

Killericon
07-26-2011, 04:54 PM
DJ's best years in the NFL were as a WLB in a 3-4. He was good at MLB but not WLB good.

I think you mean 4-3.

Dedhed
07-26-2011, 05:00 PM
DJ has only ever been an impact player at Will. I would literally rather go with a sled at Mike than DJ again. The defense has been utter garbage since he was placed at the heart of it, and it's not a coincidence.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 05:02 PM
DJ has only ever been an impact player at Will. I would literally rather go with a sled at Mike than DJ again. The defense has been utter garbage since he was placed at the heart of it, and it's not a coincidence.

Linebackers can't compensate for a trash d-line. That's the reason our defense has been so bad. Not our linebacker play.

mkporter
07-26-2011, 05:05 PM
Linebackers can't compensate for a trash d-line. That's the reason our defense has been so bad. Not our linebacker play.

You don't get to last in the league by having only one weakness on your team. The d-line and linebackers were both garbage last year.

Dedhed
07-26-2011, 05:06 PM
Linebackers can't compensate for a trash d-line. That's the reason our defense has been so bad. Not our linebacker play.

Wrong. We never had even decent DL play during Shanahan's entire tenure, but when we had a real Mike who could keep it together the defense was at least middle of the pack.

WolfpackGuy
07-26-2011, 05:07 PM
Bad D-line plus an offense hellbent on producing 3 and outs = what happened the last two years.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 05:28 PM
You don't get to last in the league by having only one weakness on your team. The d-line and linebackers were both garbage last year.

No, but safety play comes in second in terms of blame. Then linebacker play, primarily from linebackers not named DJ Williams.

Williams at MLB/ILB hardly deserves the blame for our poor defense (epic's claim). In fact he's been our second or third best defender over the last few years.

Dedhed
07-26-2011, 05:30 PM
No, but safety play comes in second in terms of blame. Then linebacker play, primarily from linebackers not named DJ Williams.

Williams at MLB/ILB hardly deserves the blame for our poor defense (epic's claim). In fact he's been our second or third best defender over the last few years.

Wow, this is the worst post of the new CBA Era.

Agamemnon
07-26-2011, 05:35 PM
Wow, this is the worst post of the new CBA Era.

I love when asshats make posts like this rather making a counter-argument. It pretty much negates any credibility they might've had.

You seriously don't think our defensive problems breakdown as follows?

1. Defensive line
2. Safeties
3. Linebackers
4. Corners

Really?

Beyond that you really think DJ Williams on the inside has been the weak link?

Really?

epicSocialism4tw
07-26-2011, 05:37 PM
I love when asshats make posts like this rather making a counter-argument. It pretty much negates any credibility they might've had.

You seriously don't think our defensive problems breakdown as follows?

1. Defensive line
2. Safeties
3. Linebackers
4. Corners

Really?

Don't worry about that dude. He's an attack dog.

As for the defensive problems, I'd say that you're pretty close to accurate there. I would add that the loss of Dumervil really hurt the pass defense.