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TheReverend
07-21-2011, 04:59 PM
1 hour till the players conference call.

Ball's in their court. Cross fingers.

Agamemnon
07-21-2011, 05:01 PM
Awesome news! Football may be just around the corner after all...

TheReverend
07-21-2011, 05:02 PM
31-0

1 abstain. Michael Lombardi claiming Al Davis was the abstain lol

SonOfLe-loLang
07-21-2011, 05:04 PM
Hopefully the players follow suit and we'll be signing FAs by next week!

Chris
07-21-2011, 05:06 PM
http://members.iinet.net.au/~dwomen/files/nlSept182009/450election_cantwell_fingers.jpg

TDmvp
07-21-2011, 05:11 PM
Al Davis most likely thought they was voting on what to have for dinner and didn't care/know what he wanted and had no clue what he was there for.

They should really get him some help to avoid these types of situations.


now onto the important stuff ...
RELEASE THE TEBOW !!!

Dedhed
07-21-2011, 05:19 PM
Doors open as early as Saturday.

Taco John
07-21-2011, 05:21 PM
http://members.iinet.net.au/~dwomen/files/nlSept182009/450election_cantwell_fingers.jpg

I thought that was Al Davis for a second there...

Dedhed
07-21-2011, 05:24 PM
I thought that was Al Davis for a second there...

Wait, that isn't Al?

gunns
07-21-2011, 05:25 PM
No free agency until recertification

Tentatively hoping it begins Wednesday

El Minion
07-21-2011, 05:30 PM
AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



A firm 10-year agreement with NO opt outs. Labor peace till 2021 if NFLPA ratifies deal.

2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter/status/94186761596583937)

Dedhed
07-21-2011, 05:34 PM
AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



A firm 10-year agreement with NO opt outs. Labor peace till 2021 if NFLPA ratifies deal.

2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/AdamSchefter/status/94186761596583937)

2020.

Dedhed
07-21-2011, 05:35 PM
Bowlen just had face time. Didn't appear at all drunk.

Drek
07-21-2011, 05:35 PM
One aspect of the lockout that may help the Broncos: all the FA/cap/etc. rules will work differently now. As a result John Elway and co. won't be as behind the eight ball as he might have otherwise since now everyone has to learn and play by the new rules.

El Minion
07-21-2011, 05:39 PM
Goodell says facilities can open Saturday, league year can start Wednesday (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/goodell-says-facilities-can-open-saturday-league-year-can-start-wednesday/)

Posted by Michael David Smith on July 21, 2011, 7:33 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/roger-goodell-getty.jpg?w=250 Getty Images

Although the NFLPA* hasn’t accepted anything yet, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says today’s vote of NFL owners means that team facilities can open in less than 48 hours.

“We will be prepared to open the training facilities beginning on Saturday — this Saturday,” Goodell said at the NFL owners’ meeting. “We will then be prepared to start the new league year next Wednesday, subject to the full membership of the players ratifying the agreement and re-certifying as a union.”

So from Goodell’s perspective, the ball is squarely in the players’ court: The owners will be ready to go ASAP, but that depends on the players ratifying and re-certifying.

For his part, Goodell seems to think the players agreeing should be smooth sailing.

“The clubs approved an agreement that was negotiated with the players,” Goodell said. “We also approved a supplemental revenue sharing system for the next 10 years.”

Goodell said he’s been in regular contact with NFLPA* Executive Director DeMaurice Smith.

“I just spoke to DeMaurice probably 20 minutes ago,” Goodell said. “He’s going to go take care of his business.”

Doggcow
07-21-2011, 05:41 PM
Yessss

Dedhed
07-21-2011, 05:41 PM
One aspect of the lockout that may help the Broncos: all the FA/cap/etc. rules will work differently now. As a result John Elway and co. won't be as behind the eight ball as he might have otherwise since now everyone has to learn and play by the new rules.

I don't see how there's any way the Broncos benefit from the lockout, at least on a net basis.

Any team with continuity has a huge advantage over teams that have hired new coaches, are expecting new starters at key positions, etc. Not many teams have to make significant adjustments based on the new cap. The new rules aren't much of an issue for this year, imo.

worm
07-21-2011, 05:50 PM
I don't see how there's any way the Broncos benefit from the lockout, at least on a net basis.

Any team with continuity has a huge advantage over teams that have hired new coaches, are expecting new starters at key positions, etc. Not many teams have to make significant adjustments based on the new cap. The new rules aren't much of an issue for this year, imo.

Drek is a company man. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

gunns
07-21-2011, 05:58 PM
Can we go to on season mode now?

Mediator12
07-21-2011, 06:01 PM
Yep, just like I thought. Coaches all went back this week, and The FO guys are living at the facilities right now ;D

Drek
07-21-2011, 06:06 PM
I don't see how there's any way the Broncos benefit from the lockout, at least on a net basis.

Any team with continuity has a huge advantage over teams that have hired new coaches, are expecting new starters at key positions, etc. Not many teams have to make significant adjustments based on the new cap. The new rules aren't much of an issue for this year, imo.

I wouldn't call it a benefit per se, just lessens the handicap we were looking at with John Elway's lack of NFL experience.

In a different thread I outlined all these handicaps and then some. We're arguably the most screwed over team for the 2011 season in the entire league by the lockout. I'd argue that. But Elway's learning curve has been somewhat softened because now everyone has to learn these new rules and the league office is going to have multiple seminars to teach these rules to FOs. Having one tomorrow in fact.

El Minion
07-21-2011, 06:08 PM
SBJLizMullen Liz Mullen
Breaking--NFLPA's De Smith says Players did not agree to terms passed by NFL owners today, in letter Smith just sent to Players
8 minutes ago

tnedator
07-21-2011, 06:08 PM
De Smith email to player reps:
RT @SI_JimTrotter: i've received a copy of an email that demaurice smith has sent to the player reps. it reads as follows: ...
RT @SI_JimTrotter: 1) "As you know the Owners have ratifified their proposal to settle our differences. It is my understanding they are forwarding it to us.
RT @SI_JimTrotter: 2) As u may have heard, they apparently approved a supplemental revenue sharing proposal. Obly, we hv not bn a part of those discussions.
RT @SI_JimTrotter: 3) As you know from yesterday, issues that need to be collectively bargained remain open. ...
RT @SI_JimTrotter: 4) other issues such as workers compensation, economic issues and end of deal terms remain unresolved.
RT @SI_JimTrotter: 5) There is no agreement between the NFL and the Players at this time. I look forward to our call tonight.
Kind of a wet blanket thrown on fan enthusiasm.

Wet blanket part 2:
Here’s the key two sections section as we see it:
“[The settlement] gives the players only three days–Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday of next week–to try to bargain any changes to the old CBA. Any such changes would have to be agreed to by the owners in order to be incorporated into the Agreement, which would then become final on Saturday, July 30. If the NFL does not agree to the players’ proposed changes, the old CBA terms on benefits, discipline, safety, etc. will remain unchanged for another ten years,” the email reads.
It gets worse.
“In addition to depriving the players of the time needed to consider forming a union and making needed changes to the old Agreement, this proposed procedure would in my view also violate federal labor laws. Those laws prohibit employers from coercing their employees into forming a union, and could result in any Agreement reached through the procedure being declared null and void,” the email finishes.
Read the rest here: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/email-to-nflpa-reps-questions-nfl-procedure-to-end-lockout/

Mogulseeker
07-21-2011, 06:14 PM
NFLN said the vote was anonymous.

El Minion
07-21-2011, 06:16 PM
31-0

1 abstain. Michael Lombardi claiming Al Davis was the abstain lol



LATimesfarmer (http://twitter.com/#%21/LATimesfarmer) Sam Farmer LA Times by SBJLizMullen



Raiders CEO Amy Trask says Raiders abstained because of "profound philosophical differences of both a football and economic nature."

2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/LATimesfarmer/status/94198148678959104)

Houshyamama
07-21-2011, 06:22 PM
Yep, just like I thought. Coaches all went back this week, and The FO guys are living at the facilities right now ;D

That's going to be a CRAZY three days. After all this waiting and waiting and waiting, we'll get three straight days of constant signings and news.

Can't wait.

Hamrob
07-21-2011, 06:22 PM
I think shows who the idiots have been all along:

THE PLAYERS!

They get a damn good deal...and they're going to piss up wind. What a bunch of over paid dumb asses!

El Minion
07-21-2011, 06:23 PM
MikeSilver (https://twitter.com/#%21/MikeSilver) Michael Silver



The owners' conditional acceptance was a power play--daring the players to swallow terms that have not yet been negotiated. Stay tuned.

3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/#%21/MikeSilver/status/94199743726616576)

Drunk Monkey
07-21-2011, 06:26 PM
De Smith email to player reps:

Kind of a wet blanket thrown on fan enthusiasm.

Wet blanket part 2:

Read the rest here: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/email-to-nflpa-reps-questions-nfl-procedure-to-end-lockout/

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

El Minion
07-21-2011, 06:27 PM
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/351605399/Glaze_head_shot_normal.jpg (http://mobile.twitter.com/jay_glazer) Jay_Glazer (http://mobile.twitter.com/jay_glazer) I'm now hearing the players will NOT vote bc they haven't even seen what owners have done w changes players made to the owners' proposal.
2 minutes ago (http://mobile.twitter.com/jay_glazer/status/94201199024287744)

tnedator
07-21-2011, 06:30 PM
As expected:
RT @dkaplanSBJ: USA Today reporting players have rejected the deal.

Houshyamama
07-21-2011, 06:32 PM
OK, even I am getting tired of this now. Get it ****ing done.

tnedator
07-21-2011, 06:37 PM
...
RT @dkaplanSBJ: Now hearing USA Today report not accurate. Dosn't mean players like the owners proposal, just no rejection, yet


RT @AlbertBreer: On our air, @Jay_Glazer just said there's gonna be NO player vote. I'm hearing this call is not going well right now.

tnedator
07-21-2011, 06:38 PM
****, I'm going to go do something interesting like watch Royal Pains.

Inkana7
07-21-2011, 06:43 PM
Power play by Owners. Cockbags.

TheReverend
07-21-2011, 06:53 PM
Lol Rich Eisen looks like he's about to lose his ****.

Side note: I hope De Smith chokes on a dick.

Dedhed
07-21-2011, 06:57 PM
I wouldn't call it a benefit per se, just lessens the handicap we were looking at with John Elway's lack of NFL experience.

In a different thread I outlined all these handicaps and then some. We're arguably the most screwed over team for the 2011 season in the entire league by the lockout. I'd argue that. But Elway's learning curve has been somewhat softened because now everyone has to learn these new rules and the league office is going to have multiple seminars to teach these rules to FOs. Having one tomorrow in fact.
Yeah, I see it as a positive in the fact that there is one less thing the Broncos are behind the rest of the league on.

rugbythug
07-21-2011, 06:57 PM
Power play by Owners. Cockbags.

Please-When you check don't be pissed when people raise. Don't ****ing check if you can't take it.

Inkana7
07-21-2011, 07:11 PM
Lol Rich Eisen looks like he's about to lose his ****.

Side note: I hope De Smith chokes on a dick.

You mean Roger Goodell, right? Or maybe Jerry Richardson?

TheReverend
07-21-2011, 07:12 PM
You mean Roger Goodell, right? Or maybe Jerry Richardson?

My bad.

A more accurate statement would've been:

I hope De Smith chokes on YOUR dick (and vice versa).

Mediator12
07-21-2011, 07:21 PM
You mean Roger Goodell, right? Or maybe Jerry Richardson?

Uh, no. The players were stupid to elect De Smith in the first place and now their Lawyer contingent just let them get screwed to hell for being greedy and shortsighted. The negotiating team was faced with leaking info if they informed the players of what was negotiated. The owners already had complete knowledge of the agreement and were able to seize the opportunity to vote first and put the onus back on the players AGAIN!

The players just got hammered back for their decertifying tactic. This is the con of decertifying and it just bit them in the ass ;D

Houshyamama
07-21-2011, 07:28 PM
This really feels like an ace up the sleeve from the owners. If the players reject this deal it will reflect very poorly on them in the eyes of the fans.

Inkana7
07-21-2011, 07:29 PM
Man you guys must be PFT commenters. All that's missing are some jokes about De Smith's hats.

tnedator
07-21-2011, 07:38 PM
Man you guys must be PFT commenters. All that's missing are some jokes about De Smith's hats.

What are you De's PA or PR person?

rugbythug
07-21-2011, 07:43 PM
Man you guys must be PFT commenters. All that's missing are some jokes about De Smith's hats.

Nope just the fans. We get it even if you don't. If the players **** up at this point the fans may riot. We don't care about your workmans comp or if goodell fines guys to much. We want a game played.

Mediator12
07-21-2011, 07:45 PM
The thing about this is that the Owners took back the initiative. The players had a chance to strike first and pressure the owners yesterday, they dropped the ball and let the owners recover it.

Greg Aiello just confirmed that the owners voted to the terms negotiated by Smith and his lawyers, and that Smith was dealing in semantics with his players. This is exactly where the Players tactic to decertify is going to come back and haunt them. There are certain things that the UNION has to vote to approve before they can be agreed to by the owners. Right now they have to recertify under this agreement to get to those terms. If they recertify, they lose their court cases and ability to sue the league. They went all in to decertify, and forgot what could happen if they lost...........

bronco militia
07-21-2011, 07:56 PM
The thing about this is that the Owners took back the initiative. The players had a chance to strike first and pressure the owners yesterday, they dropped the ball and let the owners recover it.

Greg Aiello just confirmed that the owners voted to the terms negotiated by Smith and his lawyers, and that Smith was dealing in semantics with his players. This is exactly where the Players tactic to decertify is going to come back and haunt them. There are certain things that the UNION has to vote to approve before they can be agreed to by the owners. Right now they have to recertify under this agreement to get to those terms. If they recertify, they lose their court cases and ability to sue the league. They went all in to decertify, and forgot what could happen if they lost...........

wow!.....do you think we lost the rest of the pre-season?

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 07:58 PM
The thing about this is that the Owners took back the initiative. The players had a chance to strike first and pressure the owners yesterday, they dropped the ball and let the owners recover it.

Greg Aiello just confirmed that the owners voted to the terms negotiated by Smith and his lawyers, and that Smith was dealing in semantics with his players. This is exactly where the Players tactic to decertify is going to come back and haunt them. There are certain things that the UNION has to vote to approve before they can be agreed to by the owners. Right now they have to recertify under this agreement to get to those terms. If they recertify, they lose their court cases and ability to sue the league. They went all in to decertify, and forgot what could happen if they lost...........

Ouch.

If that's the case and this Smith fellow is as obstinant as he seems, I don't think we'll be getting football this season.

DivineBronco
07-21-2011, 07:59 PM
wow!.....do you think we lost the rest of the pre-season?

if the players think they can't get the union back until the 30th and thus wont sign anything until then smells like we would lose at least 2 weeks of pre season

eddie mac
07-21-2011, 08:04 PM
I cant stop laughing at 3500 odd dicks.

Dedhed
07-21-2011, 08:25 PM
The thing about this is that the Owners took back the initiative. The players had a chance to strike first and pressure the owners yesterday, they dropped the ball and let the owners recover it.
Pretty much. If the players had gotten their poop together and ratified their own deal yesterday, they would be in the driver's seat. Instead they pooped their pants.

Falconer
07-21-2011, 08:30 PM
Heath Evans (sp?) was just on NFL network. Earlier he tweeted that the owners were trying to pull a fast one on the players by ratifying things that weren't agreed to. When Eisen asked what those things were he said they were some of the parameters. When Eisen again asked if he could spell out those parameters Evans said he didn't know. Really?!! You make an announcement that people are being dishonest and when you are specifically questioned you admit you don't know. How stupid can you be?

crush17
07-21-2011, 08:32 PM
Players really shat the bed here.

Dedhed
07-21-2011, 08:33 PM
Heath Evans (sp?) was just on NFL network. Earlier he tweeted that the owners were trying to pull a fast one on the players by ratifying things that weren't agreed to. When Eisen asked what those things were he said they were some of the parameters. When Eisen again asked if he could spell out those parameters Evans said he didn't know. Really?!! You make an announcement that people are being dishonest and when you are specifically questioned you admit you don't know. How stupid can you be?

99.9% of the players don't have a clue about any of this.

TheReverend
07-21-2011, 09:41 PM
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/764022/x2011-July-21-20-13-57.jpg.pagespeed.ic.oFRwmwq_6k.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 10:17 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if that dude was Demaurice Smith.

Arkie
07-21-2011, 10:33 PM
http://members.iinet.net.au/~dwomen/files/nlSept182009/450election_cantwell_fingers.jpg

It's okay to make fun of Al Davis, but his daughter is off limits! This forum has a policy against insulting family members.

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 10:36 PM
It's okay to make fun of Al Davis, but his daughter is off limits! This forum has a policy against insulting family members.

Thats his granddaughter.