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BroncoBuff
07-20-2011, 04:10 PM
At Ohio State, Hawaii, UCLA, Stanford ... home USC, Oregon, Cal.


CU's Pac 12 Debut Slate Toughest in Nation
by Nick Groke
July 19, 2011 20:11

Colorado’s first season in the Pac-12 Conference netted the toughest football schedule in the country, according to magazine magnate Phil Steele. He ranked CU No. 1 in the nation in strength of schedule in an article on his website, ahead of Iowa State, Baylor, Oregon State and LSU. Based on opponents’ collective winning percentage last season, CU ranks 14th in the nation in degree of difficulty, with teams combining for a 98-67 record (59.4 winning percentage).

Steele also lists Nebraska on his “most overrated schedules” list (as he defines as the biggest difference between his ratings and the opponents’ winning percentage). The Cornhuskers’ opponents this year had a 90-62 record last season, 16th toughest in the nation. But Steele ranks Nebraska 47th. For backbround, Nebraska’s schedule for its first year in the Big 10 includes non-conference home games against Tennessee-Chattanooga, Fresno State and Washington, and a road game at Wyoming.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/sports/files/2011/07/cu_ebieniemy.jpg
No easy yards coming this season for Eric Bieniemy's offense at Colorado.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/sports/2011/07/18/cus-football-schedule-ranks-no-1-as-toughest-in-the-country/18744/

Requiem
07-20-2011, 04:14 PM
Five wins tops.

RhymesayersDU
07-20-2011, 04:17 PM
I may have to go see USC and Oregon.

Garcia Bronco
07-20-2011, 04:17 PM
Hokies Schedule is weak this year

Mogulseeker
07-20-2011, 04:22 PM
So does that mean a #1 ranking with a winning record?

Sry, don't watch college football.

Requiem
07-20-2011, 04:33 PM
Tell us about the economics of football smurf.

Mogulseeker
07-20-2011, 04:55 PM
Tell us about the economics of football smurf.

Um yeah, so like, people buy tickets... and that creates profit... and like, the owners have to give some of that profit to the players somehow.

Kid A
07-20-2011, 04:58 PM
****, I hope Nebraska's schedule ends up being 47th toughest. Either way, adjusting to a whole new group of teams will be an added challenge for both schools. I'm going to just try to enjoy watching a new era unfold and not be too upset if they drop a few road games along the way. Will be a weird experience for both fan bases to not see Iowa St, Mizzou, KU, OU, etc on the schedule all season.

BroncoMan4ever
07-20-2011, 05:16 PM
Five wins tops.

coming from the Big 12 where they have sucked for several years, with a new coaching staff and losing their only 4 actual good prospects in the draft this year 5 wins against that schedule will be a good thing.

it is going to take Colorado probably 2 seasons before they can realistically compete against the rest of the Big 12

Archer81
07-20-2011, 05:31 PM
coming from the Big 12 where they have sucked for several years, with a new coaching staff and losing their only 4 actual good prospects in the draft this year 5 wins against that schedule will be a good thing.

it is going to take Colorado probably 2 seasons before they can realistically compete against the rest of the Pac 12


FIFY.


:Broncos:

BroncoMan4ever
07-20-2011, 05:53 PM
FIFY.


:Broncos:

i knew that. dammit, that is going to take a little time to get used to.

also calling it the Pac 12 instead of the Pac 10 is going to be odd.

El Minion
07-20-2011, 07:07 PM
http://www.2downfront.com/artist%20pics/usc-trojans.jpg ranked 7th and 4 of the top ten are from the Pac-12. Nice, no east coast bias.

tsiguy96
07-20-2011, 07:20 PM
just like you guys to know where my school plays next year to OPEN the season.

@ Florida
@ Michigan State
@ LSU
@ Auburn

then a home game in the new stadium. just an FYI

That One Guy
07-20-2011, 07:28 PM
just like you guys to know where my school plays next year to OPEN the season.

@ Florida
@ Michigan State
@ LSU
@ Auburn

then a home game in the new stadium. just an FYI

I was reading the "Owl Book" the other day and saw a full page Bio for Rusty freakin' Smith. That was as far as I gave any sports programs consideration. When he's your stud, you aint got much goin' for ya.

That One Guy
07-20-2011, 07:29 PM
Oh, and as for the thread, Pac 12 is still crap and overrated.

Michigan football is back! OOooooooh yeaaaaaaahhhhhhh...

tsiguy96
07-20-2011, 07:39 PM
I was reading the "Owl Book" the other day and saw a full page Bio for Rusty freakin' Smith. That was as far as I gave any sports programs consideration. When he's your stud, you aint got much goin' for ya.

to be fair, the program has only been here for about 10 years, still the same coach that founded the team too.

Archer81
07-20-2011, 08:03 PM
i knew that. dammit, that is going to take a little time to get used to.

also calling it the Pac 12 instead of the Pac 10 is going to be odd.


I bought NCAA 2011 a year ago. I nearly always pick CU. After winning back to back Nat'l championships with them I was invited to join the Pac-10. ASU went to the Big 12. Kinda crazy.

:Broncos:

Man-Goblin
07-20-2011, 08:10 PM
What crazy clerical error in Lincoln allowed Nebraska to get a schedule as tough as 47th?

Lev Vyvanse
07-20-2011, 08:12 PM
What crazy clerical error in Lincoln allowed Nebraska to get a schedule as tough as 47th?

That road game at Wyoming is not a road game.

El Minion
07-20-2011, 08:30 PM
just like you guys to know where my school plays next year to OPEN the season.

@ Florida
@ Michigan State
@ LSU
@ Auburn

then a home game in the new stadium. just an FYI

Really? Louisiana-Lafayette should never be confused with LSU

StugotsIII
07-20-2011, 08:51 PM
Oh, and as for the thread, Pac 12 is still crap and overrated.

Michigan football is back! OOooooooh yeaaaaaaahhhhhhh...

Any Buffalo fans that love their team…should venture out to see the OSU vs. Colorado game this year.

Great stadium for games…and a great college football experience.

PS…I've been hearing Michigan is back for the last two seasons. Let's wait and see Hoke actually win a game before we all hand them the Big Ten.

tsiguy96
07-20-2011, 08:55 PM
Really? Louisiana-Lafayette should never be confused with LSU

youre 100% right.

not LSU, i was talking to someone about it today they said LSU, guess i should look at the printed schedule myself.

That One Guy
07-20-2011, 09:05 PM
Any Buffalo fans that love their team…should venture out to see the OSU vs. Colorado game this year.

Great stadium for games…and a great college football experience.

PS…I've been hearing Michigan is back for the last two seasons. Let's wait and see Hoke actually win a game before we all hand them the Big Ten.

Michigan hasn't had a football program since Lloyd Carr was fired. I refuse to acknowledge it.

GoHAM
07-20-2011, 09:23 PM
That road game at Wyoming is not a road game.

Fully expect the stands to be predominantly red for that game. Western Nebraska (and Wyoming Nebraska) fans are buying season tickets just for the Nebraska game. The special Nebraska ticket sales rules are such that there probably won't be any single game ticket sales to the general public. Season ticket holders and Cowboy Joe Club members only. Also no extra student tickets available.

UW has already broken their season ticket sales record. This coming off of a 3-9 last place finish in the Mountain West. I'm going to guess that the NU game has something to do with it.

StugotsIII
07-20-2011, 09:31 PM
Michigan hasn't had a football program since Lloyd Carr was fired. I refuse to acknowledge it.

The last time Rich Rod was on a UM sideline for a meaningful UM win was when Carr coached his last game ever against Florida, when Carr beat Heisman trophy winning Tim Tebow…

Since then….nothing.

ZONA
07-21-2011, 01:48 AM
At Ohio State, Hawaii, UCLA, Stanford ... home USC, Oregon, Cal.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/sports/2011/07/18/cus-football-schedule-ranks-no-1-as-toughest-in-the-country/18744/

Since you were too lazy to list all the games.............lol


@ Hawaii
California
Colorado State
@ Ohio State
Washington State
@ Stanford
@ Washington
Oregon
@ Arizona State
USC
Arizona
@ UCLA
@ Utah

Agamemnon
07-21-2011, 02:00 AM
Since you were too lazy to list all the games.............lol


@ Hawaii
California
Colorado State
@ Ohio State
Washington State
@ Stanford
@ Washington
Oregon
@ Arizona State
USC
Arizona
@ UCLA
@ Utah

Wow that's a brutal schedule. Won't be surprised if they win no more than two or three games.

Man-Goblin
07-21-2011, 10:47 AM
Wow that's a brutal schedule. Won't be surprised if they win no more than two or three games.

No bye week too. That's crazy. NFL teams don't even go 13 weeks without a bye.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-21-2011, 10:59 AM
Wow that's a brutal schedule. Won't be surprised if they win no more than two or three games.

Possibly, but they also have more talent than their record the last few years indicates. I don't think non-CU fans realize just how inept Hawkins and the coaches he brought from Boise were, especially on game day. They won't be great by any means, but they've got the talent to get bowl eligible. They were a much better team the last 3 games after Hawkins was fired.

24champ
07-21-2011, 11:06 AM
@ UCLA L


Guaranteed loss for the Buffs, you guys ready to lose to slick rick? :D


http://gregdavissportsphotography.com/Images/GregDavisSportsPhotography_258_Rick%20Neuheisel_UC LA_NCAAFootball.jpg

Rock Chalk
07-21-2011, 11:44 AM
Since you were too lazy to list all the games.............lol


@ Hawaii
California
Colorado State
@ Ohio State
Washington State
@ Stanford
@ Washington
Oregon
@ Arizona State
USC
Arizona
@ UCLA
@ Utah

How is that harder than any SEC teams' schedule?

Man-Goblin
07-21-2011, 12:32 PM
How is that harder than any SEC teams' schedule?

Seems kinda funky to me. Maybe the lack of a bye week and only 5 true home games count for something in this guy's rankings.

Both conferences will have two pre-season top 5 teams (Oregon, Stanford and LSU, Alabama). But the SEC as always looks to have more quality depth and fringe top 25 teams (USC, ASU, Utah, maybe Arizona vs. South Carolina, Arkansas, Auburn, Miss State, Florida, UGA).

TheChamp24
07-21-2011, 01:45 PM
http://www.2downfront.com/artist%20pics/usc-trojans.jpg ranked 7th and 4 of the top ten are from the Pac-12. Nice, no east coast bias.

Are you freakin bragging about a supposed tough Pac12 scheduling?
Seriously how is that schedule so much harder than the Big 12 or SEC?

bombay
07-21-2011, 02:10 PM
I'm headed East to Columbuis, O, for the Buffs game against ohio st. They may have a bit of a shot now.

El Minion
07-21-2011, 02:45 PM
Are you freakin bragging about a supposed tough Pac12 scheduling?
Seriously how is that schedule so much harder than the Big 12 or SEC?

You'll never see SC or other PAC-12 programs schedule all there non-conference games at home with the likes of Appalachian State.

Pac-10 vs SEC Non-Conference Schedule (http://leaderofthepac.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/pac-10-vs-sec-non-conference-schedule/)
27 07 2010

As everyone on the west coast already knows, the paradox of the SEC being the top conference in the country should be questioned when you take a look at their non-conference schedules. Even without looking at the other conferences, I would be willing to bet that the SEC would be at the bottom when it comes to strength of schedule and comparing them to the Pac-12 is not even fair, but here’s the information in an excel chart.

http://leaderofthepac.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/non-conference1.jpg?w=510&h=72
*Rankings were determined from espn.com and nationalchamps.net

**Two different SEC opponents were ranked 25th in each poll, but unranked in the other.

Looking at the Pac-10 it looks like they typically follow a format to include one A game (BCS conference team), B game (mid-major), and C game (easy win). There are exceptions to this rule, but even the worst schedule in the Pac-10, which I would give to Arizona State for playing two FCS schools – has the Sun Devils traveling across the country to play a top ten team on the road.

In contrast, the SEC’s 48 non-conference games includes the Sisters of the South and a bunch of teams from Louisiana that they want to beat up on (Louisiana Lafayette – twice, Louisiana Monroe – three times, and Tulane). I’ve been able to deduce that either the Bayou is a recruiting hotbed, or the SEC is recruiting these teams to join the conference when they expand. How would fans react if the Miami Heat were playing 27 games a year against the D-league, or the Yankees playing 54 games a year against Triple-A teams?

Agamemnon
07-21-2011, 03:34 PM
Possibly, but they also have more talent than their record the last few years indicates. I don't think non-CU fans realize just how inept Hawkins and the coaches he brought from Boise were, especially on game day. They won't be great by any means, but they've got the talent to get bowl eligible. They were a much better team the last 3 games after Hawkins was fired.

I'm a CU fan. I know how inept Hawkins was. But that schedule is insane. Half of the teams on there will likely be ranked at some point in the season and several are National Title contenders. If Hawkins had faced a schedule like this they might have gone winless to be honest.

There's only a couple teams on that schedule that I honestly feel they are superior to. Seven or eight of those games I see them as clear underdogs.

BroncoBuff
07-21-2011, 03:35 PM
USC, Oregon, Stanford and Ohio State are elite teams, no debate there I hope.

How many schools play four Top 10 teams?

BroncoBuff
07-21-2011, 03:48 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5215/2010top25.jpg


Numbers 3, 4 and 5

Agamemnon
07-21-2011, 03:50 PM
USC, Oregon, Stanford and Ohio State are elite teams, no debate there I hope.

How many schools play four Top 10 teams?

Should be interesting to see how good Stanford is post-Harbaugh. I think the drop-off is going to be dramatic personally.

elsid13
07-21-2011, 03:55 PM
Should be interesting to see how good Stanford is post-Harbaugh. I think the drop-off is going to be dramatic personally.

A lot of NFL talent on both sides of the ball at Stanford, don't think that there will that much of drop off.

Agamemnon
07-21-2011, 04:00 PM
A lot of NFL talent on both sides of the ball at Stanford, don't think that there will that much of drop off.

Takes more than talent to be a contender. Harbaugh is the guy that made that team elite.

elsid13
07-21-2011, 04:17 PM
Takes more than talent to be a contender. Harbaugh is the guy that made that team elite.

Talent makes the team elite, coaching just ensures there is more talent in the pipeline. And no one really left that team.

BroncoBuff
07-21-2011, 04:33 PM
Harbaugh is the guy that made that team elite.

Kinda like Urban Meyer at Utah ... but they bounced back, 10-3 last season.

Now, who the hell are you 'Agamemnon'?

StugotsIII
07-21-2011, 06:38 PM
I'm headed East to Columbuis, O, for the Buffs game against ohio st. They may have a bit of a shot now.

Have you been to Columbus for a game.


If not, hit me up for the does and don't of OSU football watching...

Agamemnon
07-22-2011, 03:05 AM
Kinda like Urban Meyer at Utah ... but they bounced back, 10-3 last season.

Now, who the hell are you 'Agamemnon'?

Or like Bill McCartney and Tom Osborne. These things can go both ways.

In the case of Utah they found a good replacement. Maybe Stanford does the same. Who knows?

K.C. is a Toilet
08-06-2011, 10:44 AM
BroncoBuff

You will love these videos...

They were shown to the football team on the 1st day of practice.

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/27252716?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/27252716">Welcome Back 2011</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user7848133">Jamie Guy</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/27287476?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/27287476">it's All here for You.</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user7848133">Jamie Guy</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

BroncoBuff
08-06-2011, 06:47 PM
It's a 4-5 win season, maybe 6. Herc is right, the roster has underplayed its talent level. Replacing a malaise-infused coaching staff with a take-charge one should really turn players' heads, it usually does. Like when Red Miller stepped in for John Ralston.

Washington and UCLA roadies are the swing games ... we could win both, we could lose both.

BroncoBuff
08-06-2011, 07:11 PM
<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/27252716?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/27252716">Welcome Back 2011</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user7848133">Jamie Guy</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/27287476?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/27287476">it's All here for You.</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user7848133">Jamie Guy</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

That is GREAT footage in #1, really amazing compilation. That's a welcome back, but change the "Family" theme into something else, and it would be a good recruiting vid too, the high energy (Foo Fighters?) counterpoint to the second video. Best campus in America, best mascot anywhere. Too bad they're not worth a W.


I'd just like to say K.C., welcome to the forum. Welcome indeed. I have a good feeling about you, you seem the kind of high-character individual who makes a decision and sticks with it. Somebody we can all count on to be true to himself, tell it like he sees it, and never change his user name. Yours is a welcome infusion of integrity here, and just in time.

gunns
08-06-2011, 09:14 PM
Since you were too lazy to list all the games.............lol


@ Hawaii
California
Colorado State
@ Ohio State
Washington State
@ Stanford
@ Washington
Oregon
@ Arizona State
USC
Arizona
@ UCLA
@ Utah L

Oh yeah

TheChamp24
08-06-2011, 09:42 PM
USC, Oregon, Stanford and Ohio State are elite teams, no debate there I hope.

How many schools play four Top 10 teams?



Oklahoma plays 3 teams ranked in the preseason top 10. 5 total teams ranked in the top 25 preseason polls.
Going by last year, Tulsa was ranked 24th plus OK St 13th, FSU 17th, Missouri 18th, and A&M 19th.
I think people don't realize how competitive the Big 12 and SEC really are and why they don't want to schedule too many tough OCC games.
At least I don't have to hang my head in shame like Nebraska fans in the fact OU actually schedules competitive OCC games. FSU, Miami, in the future I think they have Ohio State.

FADERPROOF
08-07-2011, 05:42 AM
Oh, and as for the thread, Pac 12 is still crap and overrated.

Michigan football is back! OOooooooh yeaaaaaaahhhhhhh...

Can't wait to watch my Buckeyes beat the Wolverines this year...again!

Michigan football has gotten so bad that fans are actually taking pride in OSU abandoning all wins last year so they can claim that they didn't lose that game.

StugotsIII
08-07-2011, 08:32 AM
Can't wait to watch my Buckeyes beat the Wolverines this year...again!

Michigan football has gotten so bad that fans are actually taking pride in OSU abandoning all wins last year so they can claim that they didn't lose that game.

Technically, Michigan is still credited for a loss. OSU's win was the only thing vacated.

So UM can't claim the didn't lose.

PS. I was there….UM not only lost, they got murdered.

robbieopperude
08-07-2011, 10:23 AM
If Colorado can handle the running game and physical style of Ohio St. I think we have a legitimate shot of being in the game in the fourth quarter. They are going to be a different team without Pryor, there best RB and OT. I can't remember if the other two guys they have suspended are difference makers but yeah. That is some serious "O" to lose.

DENVER BRONCOS DOMINATE
08-07-2011, 03:40 PM
If Colorado can handle the running game and physical style of Ohio St. I think we have a legitimate shot of being in the game in the fourth quarter. They are going to be a different team without Pryor, there best RB and OT. I can't remember if the other two guys they have suspended are difference makers but yeah. That is some serious "O" to lose.

It sounds like Embree is going to more of a physical, run-based attack.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/44046420/ns/sports-college_football/

StugotsIII
08-07-2011, 06:21 PM
If Colorado can handle the running game and physical style of Ohio St. I think we have a legitimate shot of being in the game in the fourth quarter. They are going to be a different team without Pryor, there best RB and OT. I can't remember if the other two guys they have suspended are difference makers but yeah. That is some serious "O" to lose.

No doubt OSU will be a different team offensively without Pryor. Last year they averaged 38.8 pts per game.

They will also be missing their #1 WR Posey….who is an animal.

While they will be missing there starting LT and starting TB, they will replace them with 5 star recruits and won't miss a beat.

Jamal Berry averaged over 8 yards a carry last year and will most likely start for Herron. Rod Smith is being comported to Eddie George and Chris Wells from a size and speed standpoint and will also get a ton of carries.

One thing OSU won't be missing out on is anyone from their defense. Their defense is always loaded and always a top 10 defense at least.

It will be tough for ANY team in the country to score on them.

bombay
08-07-2011, 06:32 PM
I'll be in Columbus 9/24 pulling for a Buff win over ohio st.

Rodney Stewart will give the buffs a decent back behind a big strong line, and hanson has some experience and several good targets at wideout. the Buffs have decent talent on the d-line and at linebacker, but major questions in the secondary. The way hawkins screwed Hanson over, ripping his redshirt twice and then continuing to play his little boy, Hanson should really get an extra hardship year. hawkins is truly a scumbag.

wild horses
08-07-2011, 06:53 PM
Oh, and as for the thread, Pac 12 is still crap and overrated.

Michigan football is back! OOooooooh yeaaaaaaahhhhhhh...

There are no facts to support your claim.

No matter how much you wish it to be true, the Big Ten is not better than the Pac 12.

Big Ten vs. Pac 12

In the 2000s, Regular Season + Bowl Games
22-34 (.393)

In the 2000s, Bowl Games
4-9 (.308)

robbieopperude
08-08-2011, 04:29 AM
No doubt OSU will be a different team offensively without Pryor. Last year they averaged 38.8 pts per game.

They will also be missing their #1 WR Posey….who is an animal.

While they will be missing there starting LT and starting TB, they will replace them with 5 star recruits and won't miss a beat.

Jamal Berry averaged over 8 yards a carry last year and will most likely start for Herron. Rod Smith is being comported to Eddie George and Chris Wells from a size and speed standpoint and will also get a ton of carries.

One thing OSU won't be missing out on is anyone from their defense. Their defense is always loaded and always a top 10 defense at least.

It will be tough for ANY team in the country to score on them.

I think you may be underestimating how valuable that LT you lossed will affect your run game. That dude is an animal. Plus if you start a freshman QB you are going to see alot of 8 men in the box challenging him to throw the ball down the field.

FADERPROOF
08-08-2011, 05:03 AM
Technically, Michigan is still credited for a loss. OSU's win was the only thing vacated.

So UM can't claim the didn't lose.

PS. I was there….UM not only lost, they got murdered.

It's pretty awesome that the 1-2 game in 2006 was the last time Michigab was relevant.

1st game in 2007 they go out and lose at home to Applachian State, and since then have been fluttering around with the Indiana's and Northwestern's of the Big 10

brncs_fan
08-08-2011, 05:47 AM
That is GREAT footage in #1, really amazing compilation. That's a welcome back, but change the "Family" theme into something else, and it would be a good recruiting vid too, the high energy (Foo Fighters?) counterpoint to the second video. Best campus in America, best mascot anywhere. Too bad they're not worth a W.


I'd just like to say K.C., welcome to the forum. Welcome indeed. I have a good feeling about you, you seem the kind of high-character individual who makes a decision and sticks with it. Somebody we can all count on to be true to himself, tell it like he sees it, and never change his user name. Yours is a welcome infusion of integrity here, and just in time.

30 seconds to mars

bombay
08-12-2011, 02:05 PM
Aug. 12, 2011 2:53 p.m. (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rapid-reports/post/15429486) - by Brent Zwerneman - Texas A&M likely bound to SEC (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rapid-reports/post/15429486)
There appears to be no turning back for the Aggies to the SEC. Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe has told Texas A&M the Big 12 will survive without the Aggies, and that Texas holds the key to the conference’s future, according to an A&M official. The Big 12 also said Houston will be a viable replacement for the Aggies, according to the A&M official. Aggies RapidReports (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rapid-reports/team/TXAM)


Can't find any other college football threads. Appears that A$TM to the SEC is fait accompli. And that Beebe is an idiot.

BMF Bronco
08-12-2011, 02:18 PM
Still hung up on Nebraska comparisons I see.