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epicSocialism4tw
07-19-2011, 10:00 PM
According to the CDC:
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...it's abortion.

This group sees abortion as the greatest civil rights battle of our time.

Boomhauer
07-20-2011, 05:15 AM
I blame MTV. #1 killer of wiggers too.

W*GS
07-20-2011, 07:00 AM
Oh brother.

I assume, then, epicFail, that to eliminate abortion, you advocate free contraception to anyone who asks, free prenatal care for all pregnant women, free health screenings for all women of reproductive age, and a vast network of folks willing to adopt?

Otherwise, just STFU.

Pony Boy
07-20-2011, 09:22 AM
Black Men Live Longer Inside Prison Than Out

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/07/black-men-live-longer-inside-prison-out/40063/

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-20-2011, 09:23 AM
Black Men Live Longer Inside Prison Than Out

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/07/black-men-live-longer-inside-prison-out/40063/

Oh, and Michele Bachmann says things were WAY better for black people during slavery. So there's that.

Garcia Bronco
07-20-2011, 09:40 AM
Oh, and Michele Bachmann says things were WAY better for black people during slavery. So there's that.

In a way...her point is valid. She however was not advocating a return to slavery, but pointing out that statically the Black man in this country had a better chance of a better family life under the conditions on the 1800''s than today.

Outside of abortion...the number 1 killer of black men is black men.

cutthemdown
07-20-2011, 11:33 AM
The black community has its work cut our for them. My band played an event for the city in a black neighborhood recently. One little black kid who was hanging around was really a great kid, smart, outgoing, funny, about 4-5 yrs old. He was there all day while we set up and played. After gig I asked him where his mommy was, he said home sleeping. I asked if he comes to park to play alot, he says yes. I ask if he comes by himself he says YEP! So there you have it a 5 yr old kid who has to entertain and look after himself because mom home sleeping during the day and no dad around. Until the black community gets it **** together these kids don't stand a chance.

He was such a great kid though, I seriously thought about just taking him home with me, calling police and saying I found a lost kid with no parents in site. Maybe get him into the system where he has somewhat of a chance. Parents who don't care for kids should be punished IMO. This is the crap that is leading to our demise as a nation.

In comparison we played one 2 yrs ago in a white area and its all parents with kids sitting together as families. At the black park it's kids running wild all over, hardly any families sitting together. It's a huge problem.

epicSocialism4tw
07-20-2011, 03:01 PM
The black community has its work cut our for them. My band played an event for the city in a black neighborhood recently. One little black kid who was hanging around was really a great kid, smart, outgoing, funny, about 4-5 yrs old. He was there all day while we set up and played. After gig I asked him where his mommy was, he said home sleeping. I asked if he comes to park to play alot, he says yes. I ask if he comes by himself he says YEP! So there you have it a 5 yr old kid who has to entertain and look after himself because mom home sleeping during the day and no dad around. Until the black community gets it **** together these kids don't stand a chance.

He was such a great kid though, I seriously thought about just taking him home with me, calling police and saying I found a lost kid with no parents in site. Maybe get him into the system where he has somewhat of a chance. Parents who don't care for kids should be punished IMO. This is the crap that is leading to our demise as a nation.

In comparison we played one 2 yrs ago in a white area and its all parents with kids sitting together as families. At the black park it's kids running wild all over, hardly any families sitting together. It's a huge problem.

We have convinced poor people that they need Jesse Jackson or Bill Clinton types to give them handouts to live, and when successful people like Bill Cosby challenge that, they get shouted down by race baiters.

We need to be teaching African American kids about their forebearers in the revolution and throughout American history and not teaching them that they are nothing but the children of slaves who are destined to themselves be slaves to the welfare state.

The modern civil rights tragedy is that of dems and their plantation-style welfare state. It gives people just enough to survive and makes them dependent on the government instead of each other.

Garcia Bronco
07-20-2011, 04:14 PM
I have to agree with both of you. I wish there was something I could do.

Requiem
07-20-2011, 04:22 PM
Lol. . .

cutthemdown
07-20-2011, 04:27 PM
Lyndon Johnson and his war on poverty gave us institutionalized poverty.

That One Guy
07-20-2011, 07:49 PM
We just need more rappers to sing about the virtues of stickin' it in the butt. Less pregnancies and everyone wins.

alkemical
07-21-2011, 06:09 AM
We just need more rappers to sing about the virtues of stickin' it in the butt. Less pregnancies and everyone wins.

Isn't that what they learn in prison....


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Tombstone RJ
07-21-2011, 10:43 AM
There are some black preachers who are effective in shining the light on this vast and unfortunate genocide.

where is the modern woman (the feminist) in this plight? Oh yah, she's all about abortion on demand. She is not concerned about the ONE-HUNDRED AND SIXTY MILLION WOMEN who have been wipped out of existence through infanticide and abortion in Asia.

she don't care

where are all the librals? this is a tragedy of epic proportions, this is death on demand. Why is gay marriage so important but these vast killing fields mean nothing?

this is so sad...

W*GS
07-21-2011, 10:52 AM
There are some black preachers who are effective in shining the light on this vast and unfortunate genocide.

where is the modern woman (the feminist) in this plight? Oh yah, she's all about abortion on demand. She is not concerned about the ONE-HUNDRED AND SIXTY MILLION WOMEN who have been wipped out of existence through infanticide and abortion in Asia.

she don't care

where are all the librals? this is a tragedy of epic proportions, this is death on demand. Why is gay marriage so important but these vast killing fields mean nothing?

this is so sad...

I assume, then, that to eliminate abortion, you advocate honest and open sex education to all youth, free contraception to anyone who asks, free prenatal care for all pregnant women, free health screenings for all women of reproductive age, and a vast network of folks willing to adopt?

Otherwise, just STFU.

That One Guy
07-21-2011, 11:26 AM
I assume, then, that to eliminate abortion, you advocate honest and open sex education to all youth, free contraception to anyone who asks, free prenatal care for all pregnant women, free health screenings for all women of reproductive age, and a vast network of folks willing to adopt?

Otherwise, just STFU.

I do think getting your tubes tied should be a free procedure at Planned Parenthood or something. And none of this wait until you're 25 nonsense. Let people get 'em tied at 16 if the parents and kids are good with it.

Requiem
07-21-2011, 11:37 AM
Surprised it wasn't Popeye's and Purple Drank.

Tombstone RJ
07-21-2011, 12:31 PM
I assume, then, that to eliminate abortion, you advocate honest and open sex education to all youth, free contraception to anyone who asks, free prenatal care for all pregnant women, free health screenings for all women of reproductive age, and a vast network of folks willing to adopt?

Otherwise, just STFU.

How about the promotion of families where the father actually stays with the woman? That's a pretty simple solution. I know you are gonna say "that's not realistic!!" but another way around this is--and try to stick with me on this--abstaining from sex until you are married!!

But I understand, you want to let abortions happen as a form of birth control, rather than promoting the family and marriage between one man and one woman.

I know that abortions are still gonna happen, even if the breakdown of the family was not so amplified as it is in the African American community. However, I think the abortion rates would substantially decrease if the basic family unit was celebrated and promoted (one husband, one wife and then kids).

You may call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one....

alkemical
07-21-2011, 12:32 PM
How about the promotion of families where the father actually stays with the woman? That's a pretty simple solution. I know you are gonna say "that's not realistic!!" but another way around this is--and try to stick with me on this--abstaining from sex until you are married!!

But I understand, you want to let abortions happen as a form of birth control, rather than promoting the family and marriage between one man and one woman.

I know that abortions are still gonna happen, even if the breakdown of the family was not so amplified as it is in the African American community. However, I think the abortion rates would substantially decrease if the basic family unit was celebrated and promoted (one husband, one wife and then kids).

You may call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one....



Anal sex makes everyone equal

snowspot66
07-21-2011, 01:03 PM
How about the promotion of families where the father actually stays with the woman? That's a pretty simple solution. I know you are gonna say "that's not realistic!!" but another way around this is--and try to stick with me on this--abstaining from sex until you are married!!


And in the mean time? Changing culture for the better is great but it's a long slow process. Also, expecting people to wait until they are married to have sex is the most unrealistic of all solutions.

DivineBronco
07-21-2011, 01:11 PM
You may call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one....

I hope you are attempting to use that quote ironically...because nothing you seem to stand for has an parallel to the message of that song

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 01:21 PM
And in the mean time? Changing culture for the better is great but it's a long slow process. Also, expecting people to wait until they are married to have sex is the most unrealistic of all solutions.

Its a universally just solution. Its a pragmatic solution. Its a culturally congruent solution. It is a solution that advocates the highest standard and allows for corrections to be made for those who do not meet it.

Dropping the standard to the lowest common denominator is the worst thing you could possibly do.

Hey...people have problems keeping themselves from assaulting other people when they are provoked. Maybe we should just allow everyone to assault each other because people can't control themselves and its bound to happen? Nope. Those things have adverse effects on our society, just as the culture of non-responsibility and abortion-on-demand have had in poor communities.

That One Guy
07-21-2011, 01:28 PM
I hope you are attempting to use that quote ironically...because nothing you seem to stand for has an parallel to the message of that song

Maybe it's because he's taking the role of the annoying guy in Dinner for Schmucks?

Tombstone RJ
07-21-2011, 01:30 PM
Maybe it's because he's taking the role of the annoying guy in Dinner for Schmucks?

love that movie, how'd you know?

cutthemdown
07-21-2011, 01:37 PM
And in the mean time? Changing culture for the better is great but it's a long slow process. Also, expecting people to wait until they are married to have sex is the most unrealistic of all solutions.

Then we can't we fix it unless we start steralizing men and women who have a kid and don't care for it. Since that will never happen, and people want to be sluts, then I guess we will be stick with a ton of unwanted and uncared for babies of every color.

Seriously though how many abortions, children into the system, children parents don't care for should someone be able to have before they lose their right to have a kid? It's something America not prepared to face because it sounds so NAZI Germany.

That One Guy
07-21-2011, 01:42 PM
Then we can't we fix it unless we start steralizing men and women who have a kid and don't care for it. Since that will never happen, and people want to be sluts, then I guess we will be stick with a ton of unwanted and uncared for babies of every color.

Seriously though how many abortions, children into the system, children parents don't care for should someone be able to have before they lose their right to have a kid? It's something America not prepared to face because it sounds so NAZI Germany.

It's simple. If you can't care for a kid, the kid gets removed from the house. No social aid. Let bad parents starve to death and stop letting them have kids and live off the money that child brings in through food stamps, welfare, etc.

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 01:48 PM
Then we can't we fix it unless we start steralizing men and women who have a kid and don't care for it. Since that will never happen, and people want to be sluts, then I guess we will be stick with a ton of unwanted and uncared for babies of every color.

Seriously though how many abortions, children into the system, children parents don't care for should someone be able to have before they lose their right to have a kid? It's something America not prepared to face because it sounds so NAZI Germany.

Abortion is our little "gift" from the same movement that spawned Nazism.

Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, rationalized abortion to people by saying that it could be used to control minority populations...especially African Americans. It was literally a subversive policy to limit the number of poor (at that time, mostly african american) children born. This is very well documented. Abortion is the lone survivor of racist public policies in the united states.

snowspot66
07-21-2011, 01:48 PM
Its a universally just solution. Its a pragmatic solution. Its a culturally congruent solution. It is a solution that advocates the highest standard and allows for corrections to be made for those who do not meet it.

Dropping the standard to the lowest common denominator is the worst thing you could possibly do.

Hey...people have problems keeping themselves from assaulting other people when they are provoked. Maybe we should just allow everyone to assault each other because people can't control themselves and its bound to happen? Nope. Those things have adverse effects on our society, just as the culture of non-responsibility and abortion-on-demand have had in poor communities.

I can prevent more STD's, abortions, and unwanted welfare babies by handing out free condoms than you can by standing on a soap box lecturing people on your ideal vision of sex only after marriage.

Policy and social programs have to be based in the real world. In the real world people ****. A lot. Always have and always will regardless of marital status.

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 01:50 PM
It's simple. If you can't care for a kid, the kid gets removed from the house. No social aid. Let bad parents starve to death and stop letting them have kids and live off the money that child brings in through food stamps, welfare, etc.

You don't remove the kid, you just stop giving rewards for each one born. The govt gives single mothers financial assistance for each child.

You encourage that people stick together through problems for the good of the children in that way, and if not, you let charities and the good will of our people handle the problem.

cutthemdown
07-21-2011, 01:50 PM
It's simple. If you can't care for a kid, the kid gets removed from the house. No social aid. Let bad parents starve to death and stop letting them have kids and live off the money that child brings in through food stamps, welfare, etc.

Then we have a ton of kids who don't know parents, know they are babies just fed into system, no one to care for them, and taxpayers can't afford to pay for it all. How is that any kind of solution to a problem. I'd say back to the drawing board.

cutthemdown
07-21-2011, 01:52 PM
I can prevent more STD's, abortions, and unwanted welfare babies by handing out free condoms than you can by standing on a soap box lecturing people on your ideal vision of sex only after marriage.

Policy and social programs have to be based in the real world. In the real world people ****. A lot. Always have and always will regardless of marital status.

They have actually shown in some studies that handing out condoms doesn't increase condom use.

snowspot66
07-21-2011, 01:55 PM
They have actually shown in some studies that handing out condoms doesn't increase condom use.

That brings up W*GS other points. It needs to be a part of a larger education program on birth control, etc. People won't necessarily use it if you just give it to them but if you give them a good reason to use it they will.

It's not a perfect solution but there are no silver bullets in this debate.

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 01:55 PM
I can prevent more STD's, abortions, and unwanted welfare babies by handing out free condoms than you can by standing on a soap box lecturing people on your ideal vision of sex only after marriage.

Policy and social programs have to be based in the real world. In the real world people ****. A lot. Always have and always will regardless of marital status.

You can't spout myth at assumptions and expect to address the issue.

The issue is one of responsibility. Instead of educating children on sex alone, you educate them on responsibility. Responsibility to their families and their greater communities. In that responsibility is the reality that children should refrain from sex because they cannot support a child on their own. That is the crux of the issue. Its an issue that we need to be adult about.

You don't encourage kids to have sex and then expect that they actually follow the guidelines put forth in a classroom by a teacher who is tangentially related to their life for some short period of time. Kids can't even get simple things right like doing their homework (where repurcussions for mistakes are minimal), and we're supposed to believe the hogwash that they'll actually take the time to use best practices in all sexual situations (when lives are at stake)? Ha!

cutthemdown
07-21-2011, 01:57 PM
I don't think it has to be free. What schools, public restrooms need are more bathroom condom dispensers. Especially around colleges and HS where kids may still be shy about going into the safeway for a pack of trojans. Free though? no I don't think so. At least make them 25 cents or something. We can't keep just making things free for people. LIFE IS NOT FREE. People on welfare should just be cut off at some point. Paying someone for doing nothing is unAmerican!

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 01:57 PM
It's not a perfect solution but there are no silver bullets in this debate.

Which is exactly why holding people to higher standards is what needs to be done.

W*GS
07-21-2011, 02:01 PM
Also, expecting people to wait until they are married to have sex is the most unrealistic of all solutions.Its a universally just solution. Its a pragmatic solution. Its a culturally congruent solution. It is a solution that advocates the highest standard and allows for corrections to be made for those who do not meet it.

When has forbidding couples from having sex actually worked, ever?

You're ladling in all sorts of "sex is something filthy and should only be done by married couples with the lights off" pseudo-puritanical crap into your brain, and spewing that nonsense here.

If you think that making sex outside of certain narrow rules a punishable offense, and that doing so will actually work, you're deranged.

cutthemdown
07-21-2011, 02:02 PM
We need a baby doll that is high tech, and can be programmed to be just like a real brat. Puking, ****ting, crying, and ruining all a teenagers fun. Or start a program that takes kids to see what caring for a baby all about. Have adult supervision, like a nurse or something, and make teenagers spend a whole day around a baby. Then also educate on how to have sex without having kids. I say we push oral sex, condoms, sodomy, and pearl necklaces.

W*GS
07-21-2011, 02:06 PM
Which is exactly why holding people to higher standards is what needs to be done.

When has that ever worked in regards to sex?

snowspot66
07-21-2011, 02:11 PM
You don't encourage kids to have sex and then expect that they actually follow the guidelines put forth in a classroom by a teacher who is tangentially related to their life for some short period of time. Kids can't even get simple things right like doing their homework (where repurcussions for mistakes are minimal), and we're supposed to believe the hogwash that they'll actually take the time to use best practices in all sexual situations (when lives are at stake)? Ha!

Yes it is an issue of responsibility. We agree there. But it won't change over night and honestly will never fix the problem entirely. Human nature and all.

And who is encouraging kids to have sex? Do you mean by teaching them about birth control?

True story. There's a kid that went to a school that didn't allow teachers to explain birth control of any kind. It was abstinence only. This poor kid runs up to his sex ed teacher in a panic and tells the teacher he got his girlfriend pregnant. The teacher asks if he used birth control (could have been fired for that I believe) and he replies he "used a rubber". The "rubber" he used was actually a rubber band he had wrapped around his penis. He didn't know what a condom was.

The responsible thing to do would have been to explain to him how to reduce risk in case he just couldn't help himself to not make bad decisions. People make bad decisions. We can be on a high horse about it or we can recognize that fact and as a society proactively attempt to diminish the impact of those bad decisions.

That One Guy
07-21-2011, 02:14 PM
Then we have a ton of kids who don't know parents, know they are babies just fed into system, no one to care for them, and taxpayers can't afford to pay for it all. How is that any kind of solution to a problem. I'd say back to the drawing board.

To be honest, I'd rather the kids grow up raised in a group home than to continue passing on the lessons of the street that poor people (I'm talking ghetto and trailer park both) pass on. At least if they're a family struggling, they'll learn a good work ethic from the parent. It's the quitter mentality that we don't want passed on.

That One Guy
07-21-2011, 02:14 PM
You don't remove the kid, you just stop giving rewards for each one born. The govt gives single mothers financial assistance for each child.

You encourage that people stick together through problems for the good of the children in that way, and if not, you let charities and the good will of our people handle the problem.

Don't punish a child for having bad parents.

Garcia Bronco
07-21-2011, 02:15 PM
You can't spout myth at assumptions and expect to address the issue.

The issue is one of responsibility. Instead of educating children on sex alone, you educate them on responsibility. Responsibility to their families and their greater communities. In that responsibility is the reality that children should refrain from sex because they cannot support a child on their own. That is the crux of the issue. Its an issue that we need to be adult about.

You don't encourage kids to have sex and then expect that they actually follow the guidelines put forth in a classroom by a teacher who is tangentially related to their life for some short period of time. Kids can't even get simple things right like doing their homework (where repurcussions for mistakes are minimal), and we're supposed to believe the hogwash that they'll actually take the time to use best practices in all sexual situations (when lives are at stake)? Ha!

This

that other bull**** is a copout excuse for why these kids can't follow the rules.

bowtown
07-21-2011, 02:17 PM
If llama can't have sex... no one should be having sex!

W*GS
07-21-2011, 02:18 PM
You can't spout myth at assumptions and expect to address the issue.

Indeed. Take your own advice. For example:

You don't encourage kids to have sex [...]

It's ignorance about sex that leads to problems, not knowledge about it.

But then again, the hard-right has never promoted knowledge, just blind worship of some kind of "authority" (God, the State, etc.). No wonder so many right-wingers are basically authoritarian fascist wanna-bes.

snowspot66
07-21-2011, 02:23 PM
This

that other bull**** is a copout excuse for why these kids can't follow the rules.

What rules? There are rules for who can and can't have sex?

cutthemdown
07-21-2011, 02:36 PM
To be honest, I'd rather the kids grow up raised in a group home than to continue passing on the lessons of the street that poor people (I'm talking ghetto and trailer park both) pass on. At least if they're a family struggling, they'll learn a good work ethic from the parent. It's the quitter mentality that we don't want passed on.

Have you been to a group home? I have and I am telling you they are not places we want to fill up. They get pushed onto the street at 18, still kids, they haven't enough supervision, and often the kids in the home with you have serious problems. Talk about dysfunctional. There is no good solution for kids whose parents are crap. The only solution is to make sure bad parents lose the ability to procreate.

W*GS
07-21-2011, 03:17 PM
What rules? There are rules for who can and can't have sex?

Yep - in Iran. epicFail ought to move there.

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 05:31 PM
Indeed. Take your own advice. For example:
It's ignorance about sex that leads to problems, not knowledge about it.

But then again, the hard-right has never promoted knowledge, just blind worship of some kind of "authority" (God, the State, etc.). No wonder so many right-wingers are basically authoritarian fascist wanna-bes.

You're in Gaffney land.

W*GS
07-21-2011, 05:36 PM
You're in Gaffney land.

Uhhh, no. I haven't blamed the Jews for abortion.

I must say, you're giving gaffe a run for the most asinine posts on the OM.

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2011, 05:53 PM
no. I haven't blamed the Jews for abortion.

I must say, you're giving gaffe a run for the most asinine posts on the OM.

I haven't seen a consistent run of posts from you containing anything more than personal attacks in several years.

Gaffney has you beat there. He only launches personal attacks after his wackoisms back him into a corner. You on the other hand...its your M.O. Personal attacks first, crazy moonbatisms second.

TonyR
07-21-2011, 07:07 PM
Don't punish a child for having bad parents.

Exactly. I understand where he's coming from but he doesn't see that he's punishing the kids by punishing the parents. That's part of the reason this problem, and welfare in general, are so difficult to solve (and impossible to solve in the way simpletons like epic want).

Garcia Bronco
07-21-2011, 07:59 PM
What rules? There are rules for who can and can't have sex?

The rule of not ****ing up your life before you make it out of your teens by having an unplanned pregnancy or getting social deseases. Kids are grown folks and they shouldn't be making grown folk decisions

chadta
07-22-2011, 01:27 PM
im with cut on this, sure they need education, and access to condoms, but how the heck is it my problem to pay for it ? nobody paid for my rubbers when i was growing up, I managed to not have any kids until i was married and ready too, you know why, because i was raised right, I knew that no matter how good it felt you had to pull it out and blow it in her face.

snowspot66
07-22-2011, 01:47 PM
im with cut on this, sure they need education, and access to condoms, but how the heck is it my problem to pay for it ? nobody paid for my rubbers when i was growing up, I managed to not have any kids until i was married and ready too, you know why, because i was raised right, I knew that no matter how good it felt you had to pull it out and blow it in her face.

You know what's cheaper than a kid on welfare?

Condoms.

That One Guy
07-22-2011, 02:45 PM
im with cut on this, sure they need education, and access to condoms, but how the heck is it my problem to pay for it ? nobody paid for my rubbers when i was growing up, I managed to not have any kids until i was married and ready too, you know why, because i was raised right, I knew that no matter how good it felt you had to pull it out and blow it in her face.

LOL

It's a fine line we have to walk. Nobody wants to see starving children anywhere but, at the same time, we also don't want to support mothers who have kids irresponsibly.

cutthemdown
07-22-2011, 05:37 PM
I'd like to see the stats on how many free condoms get used. At event I have seen them handed out at you end up just seeing tons thrown around and wasted, not used for sex. Passing them out free may not be a good use of funds. Its probably better to make them cheap, and increase access by adding tons on condom dispensing machines in public places, including schools etc etc.

ChrisToker
07-23-2011, 08:27 PM
Has any one read or seen Freakonomics? The #1 reason for crime decrease is not more efficient police force, not gun control, but ABORTION. Think about it. Your struggling to get by for yourself living hand to mouth now you got your girl pregnant and its unwanted do to non planning. Or female gets pregnant dude dips out now mom stuck w/ being single parent. Either way the child will most likely grow up felling unwanted leading to a greater RISK of turning to crime. Also the unwanted child will most likely have there own unwanted children and cycle will never end.

barryr
07-23-2011, 08:31 PM
Has any one read or seen Freakonomics? The #1 reason for crime decrease is not more efficient police force, not gun control, but ABORTION. Think about it. Your struggling to get by for yourself living hand to mouth now you got your girl pregnant and its unwanted do to non planning. Or female gets pregnant dude dips out now mom stuck w/ being single parent. Either way the child will most likely grow up felling unwanted leading to a greater RISK of turning to crime. Also the unwanted child will most likely have there own unwanted children and cycle will never end.

If I remember correctly, I think the point they made was not just abortion, but abortion of minorities in particular, namely blacks, has helped reduce crime. So is that great? Not sure what to think of that.

epicSocialism4tw
07-23-2011, 08:47 PM
If I remember correctly, I think the point they made was not just abortion, but abortion of minorities in particular, namely blacks, has helped reduce crime. So is that great? Not sure what to think of that.

Planned Parenthood approves.

That One Guy
07-23-2011, 09:54 PM
If I remember correctly, I think the point they made was not just abortion, but abortion of minorities in particular, namely blacks, has helped reduce crime. So is that great? Not sure what to think of that.

It was just that they were most likely to get abortions.

That said, why dance around the reality? If population X produces more criminals than anyone else, I don't mind if they choose not to have a good reproduction rate. The exact correlation would be less population X, less criminals, less crime.

epicSocialism4tw
07-23-2011, 09:57 PM
It was just that they were most likely to get abortions.

That said, why dance around the reality? If population X produces more criminals than anyone else, I don't mind if they choose not to have a good reproduction rate. The exact correlation would be less population X, less criminals, less crime.

Put 'em on welfare and abort their children.

Margaret Sanger is smiling in her grave.

That One Guy
07-23-2011, 10:00 PM
Put 'em on welfare and abort their children.

Margaret Sanger is smiling in her grave.

Until they figure out how to expel crime and irresponsibility from their society, maybe it's the best thing for them.

Quit trying to turn it political. We don't care about that angle and nobody is taking the bait. You've introduced it about 500 gazillion times and that particular horse is already hamburger. Quit hitting it.

ChrisToker
07-23-2011, 10:17 PM
Education is really the only "trickle down effect" that really works. The problem is the parents fault that kids aren't fully aware of dangers of sex, or get there poor work ethic. Yes most of this comes from the dead beat dad that dips out after feeling the stress of being a father. He most likely learned it from his dad dipping out and so on and so on... But mom is so tired after working two jobs she would prefer to watch "reality tv" then spend time teaching morals and skills to the child, then he does the same ish. Never ending cycle...untill you make a stand for humanity and get an ABORTION. Better yet get off your ass and raise that child right. By bettering yourself as a person first b4 that 9mon are over. That way we can end many pitfalls we see on daily basis.

barryr
07-23-2011, 11:38 PM
It was just that they were most likely to get abortions.

That said, why dance around the reality? If population X produces more criminals than anyone else, I don't mind if they choose not to have a good reproduction rate. The exact correlation would be less population X, less criminals, less crime.

People generally tend to be branded racists whenever even hinting that minorities, mainly blacks, commit more cimes than anyone else. Whether that is reality is besides the point to some.

epicSocialism4tw
07-24-2011, 09:59 AM
Until they figure out how to expel crime and irresponsibility from their society, maybe it's the best thing for them.


Wow.

Its hard to believe that you actually said that.

That's called 'genocide'.

TonyR
07-24-2011, 11:17 AM
That's called 'genocide'.

Dipsh*t, people choose to have abortions, they aren't forced to do it.

TonyR
07-24-2011, 11:20 AM
During health-care-reform deliberations in December 2009, the Senate approved the Women’s Health Amendment (known as the Mikulski Amendment), which requires private health insurance plans to provide preventative services for women free of charge. But to avoid a political storm over contraception, the law wisely punted the decision of what would be covered off to HHS, which in turn asked for guidance from the IOM. What this has done is take the decision out of the political realm and left it up to medical experts. This not only makes it more likely that contraception will be covered but makes it harder for an anti-abortion, anti-contraception president to come along and strip it from the law.

That such a maneuver was necessary is a testament to how anti-abortion activists have succeeded in making something as popular as contraception a political lightning rod. Contraception is extremely popular, and polls show broad support for making it affordable. But that hasn’t stopped them for successfully cutting off access. In a stroke of genius, the anti-choice movement has managed to repackage their resistance to contraception by folding it into their opposition to abortion. And what better way to do that than to name-drop Planned Parenthood?

http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=another_bfd

That One Guy
07-24-2011, 11:29 AM
Wow.

Its hard to believe that you actually said that.

That's called 'genocide'.

I'm not signing up anyone for death nor killing them myself, turd.

epicSocialism4tw
07-24-2011, 08:36 PM
Dipsh*t, people choose to have abortions, they aren't forced to do it.

Yeah, put 'em on welfare and put 'em in a position where they can't handle a child...then abort the child.

You may as well change Planned Parentood's name to "Young poor black women enter here".