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ICON
07-17-2011, 08:16 PM
Rookie vs rookie.

Heads up choices between two opposing. Who do you feel will have the better rookie season? Take into account...The role, playing time, depth chart etc...

***This is not who the better player is but rather who will do better given their situation.***


QB's

Cam Newton vs. Jake Locker
Christian Ponder vs. Andy Dalton

RB's

Mark Ingram vs. Ryan Williams
Mikel LeShoure vs. Shane Vereen
Daniel Thomas vs. DeMarco Murray
Roy Helu vs. Kendall Hunter

WR's

A.J. Green vs. Julio Jones
Jon Baldwin vs. Titus Young
Greg Little vs. Torrey Smith
Jerrel Jernigan vs. Randal Cobb
Austin Pettis vs. Leonard Hankerson

TE's

Kyle Rudolph vs. Lance Kendricks
Rob Housler vs. Luke Stocker
DJ Williams vs. Jordan Cameron
Julius Thomas vs Virgil Green

OL

Tyron Smith vs. Gabe Carimi
Nate Solder vs. Anthony Costanzo
Danny Watkins vs. Mike Pouncey
Ben Ijalana vs. Derek Sherrod

CB's

Patrick Peterson vs. Prince Amukamara
Jimmy Smith vs. Ras-I Dowling
Brandon Harris vs. Marcus Gilchrist
Curtis Marsh vs. DeMarcus Van Dyke

S's

Rahim Moore vs. Jaiquawn Jarrett
Quinton Carter vs. Robert Sands

DE's

Robert Quinn vs. JJ Watt
Adrian Clayborn vs. Aldon Smith
Cameron Jordan vs. Ryan Kerrigan
Cameron Heyward vs. Da'Quan Bowers

LB's

Von Miller vs. Akeem Ayers
Dontay Moch vs Nate Irving
Martez Wilson vs. Mason Foster
Akeem Dent vs. KJ Wright

DT's

Marcell Dareus vs. Nick Fairley
Corey Liuget vs. Phil Taylor
Jarvis Jenkins vs. Marvin Austin
Stephen Paea vs Terrell McClain

OBF1
07-17-2011, 08:27 PM
Marcus Nash

OABB
07-17-2011, 08:29 PM
adrian madise

ICON
07-17-2011, 08:32 PM
Marcus NashFormer Broncos First-Round Pick Marcus Nash who Suffered Broken Neck in Arena Football
nice job dude...

ICON
07-17-2011, 08:39 PM
Example for the sarcastic jerks above.

QB's

Cam Newton vs. Jake Locker
Christian Ponder vs. Andy Dalton

RB's

Mark Ingram vs. Ryan Williams
Mikel LeShoure vs. Shane Vereen
Daniel Thomas vs. DeMarco Murray
Roy Helu vs. Kendall Hunter

WR's

A.J. Green vs. Julio Jones
Jon Baldwin vs. Titus Young
Greg Little vs. Torrey Smith
Jerrel Jernigan vs. Randal Cobb
Austin Pettis vs. Leonard Hankerson

TE's

Kyle Rudolph vs. Lance Kendricks
Rob Housler vs. Luke Stocker both will suck
DJ Williams vs. Jordan Cameron
Julius Thomas vs Virgil Green


OL

Tyron Smith vs. Gabe Carimi
Nate Solder vs. Anthony Costanzo
Danny Watkins vs. Mike Pouncey
Ben Ijalana vs. Derek Sherrod
Orlando Franklin vs.Marcus Gilbert

CB's

Patrick Peterson vs. Prince Amukamara
Jimmy Smith vs. Ras-I Dowling
Brandon Harris vs. Marcus Gilchrist
Curtis Marsh vs. DeMarcus Van Dyke

S's

Rahim Moore vs. Jaiquawn Jarrett
Quinton Carter vs. Robert Sands

DE's

Robert Quinn vs. JJ Watt
Adrian Clayborn vs. Aldon Smith
Cameron Jordan vs. Ryan Kerrigan
Cameron Heyward vs. Da'Quan Bowers

LB's

Von Miller vs. Akeem Ayers
Dontay Moch vs Nate Irving
Martez Wilson vs. Mason Foster
Akeem Dent vs. KJ Wright

DT's

Marcell Dareus vs. Nick Fairley
Corey Liuget vs. Phil Taylor
Jarvis Jenkins vs. Marvin Austin
Stephen Paea vs Terrell McClain

SoCalBronco
07-17-2011, 08:52 PM
Hankerson is the steal of the draft for Washington. He'll be one of the premier possession recievers in the league.

ICON
07-17-2011, 08:58 PM
Hankerson is the steal of the draft for Washington. He'll be one of the premier possession recievers in the league.Surprised to see so few comparisons on this board between Hankerson and Brandon Marshall, another big possession receiver drafted by Shanahan in the mid-rounds (4th round, 119 overall). Of course, Hankerson was a far more productive collegiate receiver facing far more difficult competition, without the character concerns that Marshall brings.

Agamemnon
07-17-2011, 09:06 PM
Will they still be considered rookies in 2012?

ICON
07-17-2011, 09:19 PM
Will they still be considered rookies in 2012?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/DigiDisk/CmonMan.gif

Okay, nevermind. Let's continue talking about nothing. rolling_eyes

You people are ridiculous Any chance we can talk football? Edit: there we go

Agamemnon
07-17-2011, 09:27 PM
Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Carry on.

ICON
07-17-2011, 09:43 PM
Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Carry on.That's real nice ****head...maybe you can fix your posts...I don't care what you think, your an idiot...BTW,,,were do you work? Did they expand your cubicle?

ICON
07-17-2011, 09:53 PM
adrian madiseOMG OMG THAT IS SO AWESOME! That's funny!!!!!1!221#!!!1Shift!!onetwo!11!2!!!212!shift !

OABB
07-17-2011, 09:56 PM
willie middlebrooks?

ICON
07-17-2011, 09:57 PM
willie middlebrooks?I am an engineer. Do you ever see me shaking down bums in the Loin for a calculator and sliderule? No, you don't. Because engineering is the main thing I do, I went and bought myself a calculator. The main thing you do is crack. How do you get by without a crackpipe? The other crackheads must clown on you non-stop. I mean, the ****ing post you used to saw off my Thread is probably worth·less. Why not sell or trade it for a crackpipe? You really haven't put much thought into this, have you?

Agamemnon
07-17-2011, 09:59 PM
That's real nice ****head...maybe you can fix your posts...I don't care what you think, your an idiot...BTW,,,were do you work? Did they expand your cubicle?

^Evidence of the power of the internet to make people act like twelve year olds no matter what their actual age.

ICON
07-17-2011, 10:04 PM
^Evidence of the power of the internet to make people act like twelve year olds no matter what their actual age.Over 63 people saw the same Thread —but you're different. You acted, others didn't they moved along.

strafen
07-17-2011, 10:05 PM
QB's
Cam Newton vs. Jake Locker
Christian Ponder vs. Andy Dalton
RB's
Mark Ingram vs. Ryan Williams
Mikel LeShoure vs. Shane Vereen
Daniel Thomas vs. DeMarco Murray
Roy Helu vs. Kendall Hunter
WR's
A.J. Green vs. Julio Jones
Jon Baldwin vs. Titus Young
Greg Little vs. Torrey Smith
Jerrel Jernigan vs. Randal Cobb
Austin Pettis vs. Leonard Hankerson
TE's
Kyle Rudolph vs. Lance Kendricks
Rob Housler vs. Luke Stocker
DJ Williams vs. Jordan Cameron
Julius Thomas vs Virgil Green
OL
Tyron Smith vs. Gabe Carimi
Nate Solder vs. Anthony Costanzo
Danny Watkins vs. Mike Pouncey
Ben Ijalana vs. Derek Sherrod
CB's
Patrick Peterson vs. Prince Amukamara
Jimmy Smith vs. Ras-I Dowling
Brandon Harris vs. Marcus Gilchrist
Curtis Marsh vs. DeMarcus Van Dyke
S's
Rahim Moore vs. Jaiquawn Jarrett
Quinton Carter vs. Robert Sands
DE's
Robert Quinn vs. JJ Watt
Adrian Clayborn vs. Aldon Smith
Cameron Jordan vs. Ryan Kerrigan
Cameron Heyward vs. Da'Quan Bowers
LB's
Von Miller vs. Akeem Ayers
Dontay Moch vs Nate Irving
Martez Wilson vs. Mason Foster
Akeem Dent vs. KJ Wright
DT's
Marcell Dareus vs. Nick Fairley
Corey Liuget vs. Phil Taylor
Jarvis Jenkins vs. Marvin Austin
Stephen Paea vs Terrell McClain

OABB
07-17-2011, 10:09 PM
I am an engineer. Do you ever see me shaking down bums in the Loin for a calculator and sliderule? No, you don't. Because engineering is the main thing I do, I went and bought myself a calculator. The main thing you do is crack. How do you get by without a crackpipe? The other crackheads must clown on you non-stop. I mean, the ****ing post you used to saw off my Thread is probably worth·less. Why not sell or trade it for a crackpipe? You really haven't put much thought into this, have you?

Paul Toviessi?

ICON
07-17-2011, 10:10 PM
Paul Toviessi?Lol yes, engineers can be pretty awkward indeed. I'm a geek at heart though so I fit right in.

Br0nc0Buster
07-17-2011, 10:14 PM
Ill say Locker over Newton, with that running game he shouldnt have to do a ton
Ponder over Dalton, same reason

Julio over AJ Green, Cinci's offense could be pretty ugly this year

Patrick Peterson over Prince, doubt Prince starts this year, Peterson should
Rahim Moore over Jarrett

Quinn over Watts
Bowers over Heyward, doubt Heyward gets a ton of snaps this year, it seems Pitt likes to gradually work their linemen in

Dareus over Fairly, think Fairly is gonna have to work on his technique before he becomes a consistent contributor

oh and Miller over Akeem Ayers, Miller is much better and a good candidate for DROY

Paul Finebaum PWNS!
07-17-2011, 10:25 PM
How dare you compare the Defensive Rookie of the Year (Von Miller) to some stiff like Akeem Ayers!

What a slap in the face. Negative rep puto.

ICON
07-17-2011, 10:31 PM
How dare you compare the Defensive Rookie of the Year (Von Miller) to some stiff like Akeem Ayers!

What a slap in the face. Negative rep puto.100 post rule! Welcome to the Mane:welcome:

ICON
07-17-2011, 10:34 PM
How dare you compare the Defensive Rookie of the Year (Von Miller) to some stiff like Akeem Ayers!

What a slap in the face. Negative rep puto.And your Negative rep doesn't count yet noob! LOL.......http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/stfu_noob3.jpg

s0phr0syne
07-17-2011, 10:38 PM
Feels like an eternity since when these guys were drafted, can't even remember which teams they're on and what situation theyre in. Will have to revisit before I can make an educated response....

ICON
07-17-2011, 10:44 PM
Who do you feel will... 07-17-2011 09:40 PM Paul Finebaum PWNS! F you, your family and your gay smiley faces, puto.
Who do you feel will... 07-17-2011 09:36 PM Paul Finebaum PWNS! I hope your family burns you POS.
Who do you feel will... 07-17-2011 09:26 PM Paul Finebaum PWNS! Ayers is Queef scum. Don't ever mention him again in the same sentence with the great Von Miller.

tHANKS FOR THE HATE mail....

3 Reasons You Should Be Banned From The OM.

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Paul Finebaum PWNS!
07-17-2011, 10:49 PM
Who do you feel will... 07-17-2011 09:26 PM Paul Finebaum PWNS! Ayers is Queef scum. Don't ever mention him again in the same sentence with the great Von Miller.

3 Reasons You Should Be Banned From The OM.

Yeah, I should be banned for making an anti-Chiefs remark on a Broncos board. You are a sh!thead.

ICON
07-17-2011, 10:50 PM
Yeah, I should be banned for making an anti-Chiefs remark on a Broncos board. You are a ****head.Who do you feel will... 07-17-2011 09:36 PM Paul Finebaum PWNS! I hope your family burns you POS.

:-*http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVlV9uoNvLqg5-TvBfR_kgLFS96i6mOXHd--8k7JKap92ZTcEM&t=1

I know some crazy Chinese fools who can track you down. I will haunt you down and pay you a visit. I hope it was worth it, a-hole.

strafen
07-17-2011, 10:55 PM
Is there anyway we could have a decent football thread here anymore without turning into a pissing match, name calling and insults for no reason?
I know it's been a long off-season, but come on!

Br0nc0Buster
07-17-2011, 11:07 PM
looks like that Bronco CB guy is back...

ICON
07-17-2011, 11:22 PM
Is there anyway we could have a decent football thread here anymore without turning into a pissing match, name calling and insults for no reason?
I know it's been a long off-season, but come on!You know Ive been thinking the same thing! I think we all should ck our ego's at the door. I love this place too! I am embarrassed now. As for myself i have gained so much from here it's Great.

ZachKC
07-18-2011, 12:41 AM
Yeah, I should be banned for making an anti-Chiefs remark on a Broncos board. You are a ****head.

Ha!:rofl:Ha!

ICON
07-18-2011, 01:13 AM
Ha!:rofl:Ha!The best football is played in Dixie. Bow down to the Stars n Bars! The South shall rise again!

signed by your racist friend Paul Finebaum PWNS!




Obviously all KC fans are classless criminals.

StugotsIII
07-18-2011, 01:19 AM
OMG OMG THAT IS SO AWESOME! That's funny!!!!!1!221#!!!1Shift!!onetwo!11!2!!!212!shift !

Holy **** dude, get over yourself.

ZachKC
07-18-2011, 01:21 AM
signed by your racist friend Paul Finebaum PWNS!




Obviously all KC fans are classless criminals.

I am laughing at him. Not with him.Unbalanced idiot with a long history of others getting under his skin.

I love his meltdowns.

ICON
07-18-2011, 01:27 AM
Holy **** dude, get over yourself.

Get over Myself for starting a football Thread I've received Physical threats and mocked just because I started a football related Thread

StugotsIII
07-18-2011, 01:31 AM
Get over Myself for starting a football Thread I've received Physical threats and mocked just because I started a football related Thread

You are getting threats because you are a giant douche bag.

ICON
07-18-2011, 01:32 AM
I am laughing at him. Not with him.Unbalanced idiot with a long history of others getting under his skin.

I love his meltdowns.

I don't know how to trust anymore Don’t know who to trust No surprise
Everyone feels so far away from me Heavy thoughts sift through dust
And the lies .

ICON
07-18-2011, 01:36 AM
You are getting threats because you are a giant douche bag.How come you press harder on a remote control when you know the battery is low ... I am sure your life is difficult...you know, you, obviously, are a giant douche bag too.

ICON
07-18-2011, 01:41 AM
You are getting threats because you are a giant douche bag.obviously you are a giant douche bag too. you saw the last post? So STOP trolling. You are just causing trouble, so go away. None of the normals want you here. This is REAL football talk and we don't need you here trying to hurt the credibility of good people here on the OM. So listen really good, most people know already that ICON is a trusted poster and they do not trust fake posters like you . In fact your post are BS So get the f out and don't come back!You are an idiot...I am sorry I wasted my time with this.

cmhargrove
07-18-2011, 07:09 AM
The list is missing one of the rookies I think could be a great player. I think Muhammad Wilkerson for the Jets could be a stud. It may take him a bit to break the starting lineup, but he is in the perfect situation for his skillset, with great positional coaching.

As much as any of these rookies, I am interested to see the immediate impact of Mark Ingram on the Saints. He has the chance to step right in. take the job, and help his team make a solid run (no pun intended).

I hope, hope, hope that by the end of the year we find out that Nate Irving was truly worthy of a first round grade. I'm not saying he will be, but i'm hoping.

Cito Pelon
07-18-2011, 09:19 AM
Nice thread, but I don't have the faintest idea. Sorry I couldn't help you out more.

But, before the draft I was big on Jimmy Smith, Von Miller, Peterson, Kaepernick, Dareus, Locker, Robert Quinn, so I'll go with them to have good rookie years and that's the best I can do right now.

TheReverend
07-18-2011, 09:59 AM
Rookie vs rookie.

Heads up choices between two opposing. Who do you feel will have the better rookie season? Take into account...The role, playing time, depth chart etc...

***This is not who the better player is but rather who will do better given their situation.***


QB's

Jake Locker
Christian Ponder

RB's

Mark Ingram
Mikel LeShoure
DeMarco Murray
Roy Helu

WR's

A.J. Green
Titus Young
Torrey Smith
Jerrel Jernigan
Leonard Hankerson

TE's

Lance Kendricks
Luke Stocker
DJ Williams
Julius Thomas vs Virgil Green

OL

Gabe Carimi
Anthony Costanzo
Mike Pouncey
Ben Ijalana

CB's

Patrick Peterson
Ras-I Dowling
Brandon Harris
DeMarcus Van Dyke

S's

Rahim Moore
Robert Sands

DE's

JJ Watt
Adrian Clayborn
Ryan Kerrigan
Cameron Heyward

LB's

Von Miller
Dontay Moch
Mason Foster
Akeem Dent

DT's

Nick Fairley
Corey Liuget
Marvin Austin
Stephen Paea

^

TheReverend
07-18-2011, 10:02 AM
Never mind, clearly this thread derailed immediately.

StugotsIII
07-18-2011, 10:12 AM
obviously you are a giant douche bag too. you saw the last post? So STOP trolling. You are just causing trouble, so go away. None of the normals want you here. This is REAL football talk and we don't need you here trying to hurt the credibility of good people here on the OM. So listen really good, most people know already that the ICON is a trusted poster and they do not trust fake posters like you . In fact your post are BS So get the f out and don't come back!You are an idiot...I am sorry I wasted my time with this.

Cool story bro.

McDman
07-18-2011, 10:13 AM
Get over Myself for starting a football Thread I've received Physical threats and mocked just because I started a football related Thread

You realize no one would've kept messing with you had you not freaked out so bad. Just ignore them.

Dagmar
07-18-2011, 10:42 AM
Who the hell is this Paul Finebaum??

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55CrushEm
07-18-2011, 10:45 AM
^Evidence of the power of the internet to make people act like twelve year olds no matter what their actual age.

No kidding. Someone clearly is on the rag today.....

bronco militia
07-18-2011, 10:45 AM
it looks like Paul Finebaum doesn't like asians.....;D

Captain 'Dre
07-18-2011, 11:22 AM
Of course, Hankerson was a far more productive collegiate receiver facing far more difficult competition, without the character concerns that Marshall brings.

But otherwise, they're identical! Ha!

underrated29
07-18-2011, 11:44 AM
Rookie vs rookie.

Heads up choices between two opposing. Who do you feel will have the better rookie season? Take into account...The role, playing time, depth chart etc...

***This is not who the better player is but rather who will do better given their situation.***


QB's

Cam Newton vs. Jake Locker
Christian Ponder vs. Andy Dalton

RB's

Mark Ingram vs. Ryan Williams
Mikel LeShoure vs. Shane Vereen
Daniel Thomas vs. DeMarco Murray
Roy Helu vs. Kendall Hunter

WR's

A.J. Green vs. Julio Jones
Jon Baldwin vs. Titus Young
Greg Little vs. Torrey Smith
Jerrel Jernigan vs. Randal Cobb
Austin Pettis vs. Leonard Hankerson

TE's

Kyle Rudolph vs. Lance Kendricks
Rob Housler vs. Luke Stocker
DJ Williams vs. Jordan Cameron
Julius Thomas vs Virgil Green

OL

Tyron Smith vs. Gabe Carimi
Nate Solder vs. Anthony Costanzo
Danny Watkins vs. Mike Pouncey
Ben Ijalana vs. Derek Sherrod

CB's

Patrick Peterson vs. Prince Amukamara
Jimmy Smith vs. Ras-I Dowling
Brandon Harris vs. Marcus Gilchrist
Curtis Marsh vs. DeMarcus Van Dyke

S's

Rahim Moore vs. Jaiquawn Jarrett
Quinton Carter vs. Robert Sands

DE's

Robert Quinn vs. JJ Watt
Adrian Clayborn vs. Aldon Smith
Cameron Jordan vs. Ryan Kerrigan
Cameron Heyward vs. Da'Quan Bowers

LB's

Von Miller vs. Akeem Ayers
Dontay Moch vs Nate Irving
Martez Wilson vs. Mason Foster
Akeem Dent vs. KJ Wright

DT's

Marcell Dareus vs. Nick Fairley
Corey Liuget vs. Phil Taylor
Jarvis Jenkins vs. Marvin Austin
Stephen Paea vs Terrell McClain



Locker- by far, I think he is best in class.
Dalton went to the vikes right? Hes the one, the new Vikings QB.



Busy now at work. I will have to come back to finish this....

Pony Boy
07-18-2011, 11:55 AM
Cam Newton vs. Jake Locker
Christian Ponder vs. Andy Dalton

Terrelle Pryor
Cam Newton vs. Jake Locker
Christian Ponder vs. Andy Dalton

ICON
07-18-2011, 11:59 AM
Terrelle Pryor
Cam Newton vs. Jake Locker
Christian Ponder vs. Andy Dalton

seahawks, raiders, bears, dolphins,browns,Redskins = expect future starter by start of 2nd season

Eagles,Pats,Steelers = develop him, then a future starter or trade him for a 2nd rounder.

Pony Boy
07-18-2011, 12:03 PM
seahawks, raiders, bears, dolphins,browns,Redskins = expect future starter by start of 2nd season

Eagles,Pats,Steelers = develop him, then a future starter or trade him for a 2nd rounder.

I'm not a Terrelle Pryor fan but just think the Dolphins will go after him and if he ends up there, he will see a lot of time on the field.

strafen
07-18-2011, 01:06 PM
Locker- by far, I think he is best in class.
Dalton went to the vikes right? Hes the one, the new Vikings QB.



Busy now at work. I will have to come back to finish this....I think it;s Christian Ponder who went to the vikes...

Rockies Fan Douche
07-18-2011, 01:38 PM
comparing ayers to miller is like comparing percy snow to randy gradishar