former CIA agent: Israel will attack Iran in September

[mhgaffney]

Robert Baer is the author of Sleeping with the Devil.
MHG


Ex-CIA officer: Israel likely to attack Iran in September

Robert Baer tells LA KPFK radio that strike on Tehran likely to happen before vote on Palestinian state, that PM wants US to be involved


http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=229605

While Robert Baer didn’t reveal the sources behind his prediction, he referred to former Mossad chief Meir Dagan’s warnings of an Israeli attack on Iran as “no bluff.”

Baer told the KPFK Radio on Tuesday recent comments made by Dagan that an Israeli attack on Iran could lead to a regional war, “tell us with near certainty that [Prime Minister Binyamin] Netanyahu is planning an attack, and in as much as I can guess when it’s going to be, it’s probably going to be in September, before a [UN General Assembly] vote on the Palestinian state.”

Netanyahu is “also hoping to draw the United States into the conflict – and in fact, there’s a warning order inside the Pentagon to prepare for conflict with Iran,” Baer said.

The retired senior CIA officer predicted that Israel would attack the Natanz nuclear facility, as well as “a couple of others to degrade their capabilities.”

“The Iranians will strike back where they can, and that will be in Basra and in Baghdad,” where the US has a reduced troop presence, Baer said.

“We’ve started to look at Iran’s targets in Iraq and across the border,” he said.

Baer, however, said a regional war was unlikely.

“What we’re facing here is an escalation, not a planned all-out war,” he said.

There was no response from the Prime Minister’s Office in Jerusalem.

[underrated29]

the source was that guy who thought the world would end a few months ago and changed it to octoboer. This falls into his timeline.

[W*GS]

This is a re-run of an episode of "Gaffe's Wacky World of Jew Hatred" that was originally shown three years ago.

[DenverBrit]

Gaffney, you need to update your act!

http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/zoltar-2.jpg

[That One Guy]

Gaff, wanna put your Mane account on this guy's reputation?

If Israel does a full on attack (None of this they cyber attacked BS) by Oct 1, we'll stop making fun of all your threads. If there's no attack by Oct 1, you can't post anything but football talk until next season. Deal? Or do you not believe this fool either?

[theAPAOps5]

Did he talk to that Russian general who said the same thng 2 years ago.

[The Lone Bolt]

So when no such military action occurs are you just going to go to "cyber attack" like last time Gaff?

[mhgaffney]

As usual the knee jerks attack the messenger. If you don't like the prediction -- take it up with Robert Baer.

W*G's standard reaction of accusing me of being anti semitic would be humorous if the issues were not so dire.

As for Brit's post about me updating my act -- someone please inform him that history has a way of repeating every few years. The updates are in fact the same old story -- endlessly repeated.

MHG

[That One Guy]

As usual the knee jerks attack the messenger. If you don't like the prediction -- take it up with Robert Baer.

W*G's standard reaction of accusing me of being anti semitic would be humorous if the issues were not so dire.

As for Brit's post about me updating my act -- someone please inform him that history has a way of repeating every few years. The updates are in fact the same old story -- endlessly repeated.

MHG

Idiots make silly predictions every day. We don't make a thread about every one of them. It'd be the equivalent of making a thread about every rapture prediction and get perturbed because no one is taking the prediction serious. Has any of your insight ever come to fruition?

[mhgaffney]

Yeah sure -- but this one is a former CIA agent, author and celebrity.

As for insight coming to fruition -- yes of course. Many of us predicted the attack on Iraq beforehand and attempted to stop it. Even though millions of people demonstrated against another war -- we failed to stop it.

There were many idiots like you -- back then too -- sitting on their hands, or cheering Bush, or jeering at the peace activists.

The only thing that is certain is that history will repeat again -- IF we do not turn the tide.
MHG

[DenverBrit]

As usual the knee jerks attack the messenger. If you don't like the prediction -- take it up with Robert Baer.

W*G's standard reaction of accusing me of being anti semitic would be humorous if the issues were not so dire.

As for Brit's post about me updating my act -- someone please inform him that history has a way of repeating every few years. The updates are in fact the same old story -- endlessly repeated.

MHG

Nothing to do with history and everything to do with your conspiracy and predictive posts.

As for 'informing' me about history, you can't be serious.

No one has posted as much laughably inaccurate nonsense as you.

[ant1999e]

IMO Robert Baer is a respectable source. I'm not saying it'll happen or that Gaff isn't crazy.

[The Lone Bolt]

Yeah sure -- but this one is a former CIA agent, author and celebrity.

As for insight coming to fruition -- yes of course. Many of us predicted the attack on Iraq beforehand and attempted to stop it. Even though millions of people demonstrated against another war -- we failed to stop it.

There were many idiots like you -- back then too -- sitting on their hands, or cheering Bush, or jeering at the peace activists.

The only thing that is certain is that history will repeat again -- IF we do not turn the tide.
MHG

About two years ago you predicted (based on a statement by Scott Ritter) that an attack on Iran by the United States was "imminent."

Then when no military attack on Iran occurred you insisted that the U.S. did attack Iran as predicted but it was a "cyber attack."

So my questions is this: if no military action against Iran occurs in this instance as well, are you just going to fall back on "cyber attack" again (or some equally lame excuse) or are you going to step up and admit that Baer was wrong?

[mhgaffney]

Nothing to do with history and everything to do with your conspiracy and predictive posts.

As for 'informing' me about history, you can't be serious.

No one has posted as much laughably inaccurate nonsense as you.

My predictive posts?

I have made none except to warn about history repeating.

Yours is the response of a clown -- a guy who never in his whole life went two steps out of his way to learn the truth about anything --

except for maybe trivia.

[DenverBrit]

My predictive posts?

I have made none except to warn about history repeating.

Yours is the response of a clown -- a guy who never in his whole life went two steps out of his way to learn the truth about anything --

except for maybe trivia.

Bull****!!
This report speaks for itself. MHG

http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=100487


America will attack Iran, Syria in October: Gul

RAWALPINDI: The former chief of ISI, Maj. Gen (R) Hameed Gul has "predicted" that America would definitely attack Iran and Syria simultaneously in October.

He was talking after attending the Hamdard Majlis Shoora, Tuesday evening. He also condemned the lackluster and weak reaction of Pakistan and Islamic bloc about Israel’s attack of Lebanon.

Analyzing the current war scenario he observed that war has both political and strategic factors and despite "using" Israel, America has lost the war in Lebanon, where masses have united against the recent Israeli onslaught, and would have been more formidable if the generals of Saddam had not sold out to American dollars.

He analyzed that Israel would soon be "forced" to stop its land strikes but would continue its horrific and heinous air strikes against Lebanon, converting it to ruins.

He also "predicted" that after Iran and Syria, Saudi Arabia would also meet the same fate, followed by Pakistan.

[Boomhauer]

Israel has long declared they'll launch preeminent attacks against Iran because Iran doesn't like them. Would Iran be more justified in launching preeminent attacks against Israel for their declaration of intended war?

Despite who shoots first, the world will be a lot better place once Israel is toast. Too bad Israeli citizens won't take action to prevent destruction at the hands of their own leadership like citizens of many other countries in the MidEast have done.

[ant1999e]

Israel has long declared they'll launch preeminent attacks against Iran because Iran doesn't like them. Would Iran be more justified in launching preeminent attacks against Israel for their declaration of intended war?

Despite who shoots first, the world will be a lot better place once Israel is toast. Too bad Israeli citizens won't take action to prevent destruction at the hands of their own leadership like citizens of many other countries in the MidEast have done.

I don't remember Israel threatening to wipe Iran off the face of the earth like Iran has threatened to do to Israel.
The world will be a better place once Israel is toast? Wow!

[epicSocialism4tw]

Israel should destroy every nuclear and military installation in Iran.

And then they should leave a horse head in the bed of Achmadinejad.

[ant1999e]

Israel should destroy every nuclear and military instillation in Iran.

And then they should leave a horse head in the bed of Achmadinejad.

Or they could just take akmed jed's head.

[Boomhauer]

Israel should destroy every nuclear and military installation in Iran. ...

Should the US, likewise, destroy every nuclear and military installation in Israel? Likewise- fence in, starve, arrest-torture-execute Israeli citizens, then fire burning phosphate at them and use their children to set off mines during 'pacification' exercises. Likewise- roll tanks through Israel and declare the land a foreign country, then start building on what land wasn't taken and declare that foreign territory as well.

... or do the methods and rules Israel uses not apply against them ...

[Spider]

Israel should destroy every nuclear and military installation in Iran.

And then they should leave a horse head in the bed of Achmadinejad.

Take your meds ......... your starting to blather

[mhgaffney]

Israel should destroy every nuclear and military installation in Iran.

And then they should leave a horse head in the bed of Achmadinejad.

This clown Epic calls himself a Christian. What a bat crazy fool his is. Like so many fundamentalists.

Epic has more in common with the fanatical Jidahists than with any genuine Christian.

[mhgaffney]

Should the US, likewise, destroy every nuclear and military installation in Israel? Likewise- fence in, starve, arrest-torture-execute Israeli citizens, then fire burning phosphate at them and use their children to set off mines during 'pacification' exercises. Likewise- roll tanks through Israel and declare the land a foreign country, then start building on what land wasn't taken and declare that foreign territory as well.

... or do the methods and rules Israel uses not apply against them ...

It's a double standard. Israel gets away with murder on a regular basis. But point it out -- and you are tarred and feathered with the anti semite nonsense...

[cutthemdown]

So Gaff are you saying Obamas October surprise will be a September war? That is crazy talk. Israel wouldn't want to tangle with Iran unless they had no choice. So many would die, that would be crazy.

[mhgaffney]

I agree Cut. But if the economy tanks real bad -- later this summer-fall -- they may have no option but to distract us with another war.

Either another war or another 9/11.

This is the pattern of history.

[cutthemdown]

No Gaff it is not plausible. If anything he is letting Gaddaffi hang around, then later will drum up some reason to need more American involvement to get the job done. Iran though is right now as we speak trying to get rid of the President. They have their own power struggle going on and IMO we don't want to give him any reason to go nuts.

[Boomhauer]

I agree Cut. But if the economy tanks real bad -- later this summer-fall -- they may have no option but to distract us with another war.
Either another war or another 9/11. This is the pattern of history.

South China Sea and the reinvention of wooden Mosquito boats.

[mhgaffney]

I know most of you clowns have an attention deficit disorder -- but a few of you may nonetheless recall that Saddam Hussein sealed his fate when he stopped taking US dollars for his oil -- and shifted to Euros and other currencies.

Well -- guess what? Iran is now doing the same.

Robert Baer is looking more like a prophet than a kook.

MHG

Iran Opens Oil Bourse - Harbinger of Trouble for New York and London?

Written by John Daly
Monday, 18 July 2011 13:32

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Iran-Opens-Oil-Bourse-Harbinger-of-Trouble-for-New-York-and-London.html

The last three years of global recession have dealt a major blow to American capitalist ideas trumpeted throughout the world on the value of “free markets.” Wall St has been revealed as a form of casino economy, with the bankster insiders gambling with other people’s, and eventually, the government’s money in the form of bailouts. As the Republicans in Congress, scenting victory in the 2012 presidential elections, hold a gun to the Obama administration’s head and rating agencies consider downgrading U.S. government bonds in light of Washington’s possible defaulting, many ideas around the world that previously seemed implausible because of the dominance of the U.S. economy are garnering renewed interest.

Not surprisingly, many of these concepts originate in countries not enamored with Washington’s influence, perhaps none so more than “Axis of Evil” charter member Iran, which has seen its economy hammered by more than three decades of U.S.-led sanctions. Now Iran is working a program, that, if it succeeds, could help undermine the dollar’s preeminence as the world’s reserve currency more effectively than a Republican filibuster.

Iran’s sly weapon against the Great Satan’s currency? An oil bourse on Kish Island in the Persian Gulf, which has now begun selling high-grade Iranian crude oil.

Mohsen Qamsari, deputy director for international affairs of the Iranian National Oil Company was modest about the exchange’s initial capabilities, saying, "The commodity stock exchange has been pursuing a mechanism for offering crude oil on the stock exchange for a long time, and it has taken the preliminary steps, to the extent possible. Considering the existing banking problems, foreign customers are not expected to be taking part in the first phase of offering crude oil on the stock exchange, and this will be done on a trial basis. Today Bahregan heavy, high quality, low sulfur crude oil with less sourness will be offered on the stock exchange for the first time. In the first phase, a 600,000 barrel shipment will be offered."

Given that the world currently consumes roughly 83 million barrels of crude oil each day, the initial oil offerings at the Iranian stock exchange are hardly going to make or break the market, but they do represent an attempt by a significant oil producer to divert revenue streams from New York Mercantile Exchange, the world's largest physical commodity futures exchange, which handles West Texas Intermediate benchmark futures, and London's Intercontinental Exchange, which deals in North Sea Brent. All trades are in dollars, effectively giving the U.S. currency a monopoly.

The Kish Exchange dates back to February 2008, when instead of Tehran, Kish was chosen because it had designated as a free trade zone. The Exchange was set up to trade contracts in euros, Iranian rials and a basket of other currencies other than dollars. The previous year, Iran had requested that its petroleum customers pay in non-dollar currencies. But the Exchange initially traded contracts only for oil-derived products, such as those used as feedstocks for plastics and pharmaceuticals. Now the institution has taken the next step.

Even as Congress remains tone-deaf to the recession’s effect on American jobs and the economy, others have taken careful note. On 17 June 2008, addressing the 29th meeting of the Council of Ministers of the OPEC Fund for International Development in the Iranian city of Isfahan, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told those in attendance, "The fall in the value of the dollar is one of the biggest problems facing the world today. The damage caused by this has already affected the global economy, particularly those of the energy-exporting countries. ... Therefore, I repeat my earlier suggestion, that a combination of the world's valid currencies should become a basis for oil transactions, or (OPEC) member countries should determine a new currency for oil transactions."

What it would take for Iran’s new exchange to survive and flourish are some heavy-duty customers that Washington would be wary of picking a fight with, and Tehran already has one – China.

China, the world's largest buyer of Iranian crude oil, has renewed its annual import pacts for 2011. In 2010 Iran supplied about 12 percent of China's total crude imports. According to the latest report of the China Customs Organization, Iran's total oil exports to China stood at 8.549 million tons between January and April 2011, up 32 percent compared with the same period last year. Iran is currently China's third largest supplier of crude oil, providing China with nearly one million barrels per day.

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China simply ignores Washington’s squeals about sanctions, but it is concerned about the bottom line, and unless Iran makes its oil prices more attractive versus competing supplies from the rest of the Middle East or South American exporters, it may be hard for the OPEC member to boost its share in the rapidly expanding Chinese market.

Enter the Kish Exchange.

China's Ambassador to Tehran Yu Hung Yang, addressing the Iran-China trade conference in Tehran on Monday, said that the value of the two countries' trade exchanges surged 55 percent during the first four months of 2011 over the same period a year ago to $13.28 billion and further predicted that the figure would surpass $40 billion by the end of the year.

So much for sanctions, eh?

So, while Washington prepares to commit political hara-kiri, Iran is preparing to take away a little of the capitalist glow from New York and London. If the Chinese decide to start paying for their Iranian purchases strictly in yuan, expect the trickle away from the dollar in energy pricing to become a stampede. That ought to give Washington politicos an issue to think about besides gay marriage.

By. John C.K. Daly of OilPrice.com

[The Lone Bolt]

Again Gaffney, give us a clear definition of "attack" in this context so we can clearly judge whether Baer is right or wrong.

Exactly what kind of "attack" are we talking about here? A full-scale military attack? A "cyber" attack? Harsh words?

What constitutes an "attack" on Iran come the fall?

[alkemical]

This is just disinformation.

[mosca]

Robert Baer is a credible source on the matter. Whether or not his prophecy comes to be true, he's usually a voice worth listening to in regard to international issues.

[ant1999e]

Robert Baer is a credible source on the matter. Whether or not his prophecy comes to be true, he's usually a voice worth listening to in regard to international issues.

I agree. He has a little experience on the subject.

[mhgaffney]

I should add that Gerald Celente has been saying the same thing. It appears that our psychopathic leaders have decided to distract the American people from the economic crisis with another war. The scheme is to divert the people's anger away from themselves.
MHG

Russian Envoy to UN: 'NATO planning military attack on Iran'

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/192596.html

Russia's envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin says the NATO is planning a military strike against the Islamic Republic to overthrow the Iranian government.

Rogozin said in an interview with Russia's Izvestia daily newspaper published on Friday that the NATO was pursuing a long-reaching goal of preparing an attack on Iran, adding that the alliance intends to change governments whose views do not coincide with those of the West.

"The noose around Iran is tightening. Military planning against Iran is underway. And we are certainly concerned about an escalation of a large-scale war in this huge region," Rogozin added.

The Russian envoy further pointed out that Syria and later Yemen could be NATO's last steps on the way to launch an attack on Iran.

This comes as there are speculations that Israel is preparing for an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities to divert attention from Palestinian efforts to join the United Nations.

Last month, former CIA agent Robert Baer said he is almost certain that such an attack has been scheduled for September ahead of a UN vote on recognizing a Palestinian state.

[That One Guy]

So you're upping the ante? It's not just an "attack" but it's a "military attack"?

Just want to be sure so we can tell you to eat **** if this turns into another one of your whackjob threads. Not saying it is, just preparing in the very, very unlikely chance that it turns out these predictions you thought so important to warn us about don't really happen.

[SoCalBronco]

Gaff weren't you saying this would happen like 3 years ago?

[mhgaffney]

Gaff weren't you saying this would happen like 3 years ago?

I first warned about it in 2003 -- here:

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article3288.htm

[DenverBrit]

LOL

Only Gaffney would point to another of his stupid predictions that never happened and claim he was right! Hilarious!

[W*GS]

We got ourselves our very own Miss Cleo in gaffe...

[mhgaffney]

LOL

Only Gaffney would point to another of his stupid predictions that never happened and claim he was right! Hilarious!

Except that it did. Since I made the warning, we learned that

1. the CIA is deeply involved inside Iran, providing funding and other military support for terrorism. Yes, your CIA is doing terrorism.

2. The US also slapped heavy economic sanctions on the country -- that were without doubt an act of war.

3. The US also engaged in covert cyber war -- against Iran. This happened more recently.

3. We learned that criminal elements -- with US support -- have flooded Iran with heroin from Afghanistan. This is also happening to Iraq.

4. The US has continued with threatening behavior -- toward Iran. Everyone knows who the bully on the block is.

Except you clowns.

[broncocalijohn]

As usual the knee jerks attack the messenger. If you don't like the prediction -- take it up with Robert Baer.

W*G's standard reaction of accusing me of being anti semitic would be humorous if the issues were not so dire.

As for Brit's post about me updating my act -- someone please inform him that history has a way of repeating every few years. The updates are in fact the same old story -- endlessly repeated.
MHG

So once again you give us a fake attack against Iran......just like you have before. You are correct that history will repeat itself every few years. I am just not certain what Israel vs Iran attack will be in those history books; The one from a few years ago or this one?

I guess the next attack from Israel to Iran will be sometime in 2013 according to Gaffney.

[W*GS]

Remember, folks - since the official Iranian government position is that the US is the Great Satan, and the official gaffe position is that the US is the Great Satan, gaffe loves Iran.

[DenverBrit]

Except that it did. Since I made the warning, we learned that

1. the CIA is deeply involved inside Iran, providing funding and other military support for terrorism. Yes, your CIA is doing terrorism.

2. The US also slapped heavy economic sanctions on the country -- that were without doubt an act of war.

3. The US also engaged in covert cyber war -- against Iran. This happened more recently.

3. We learned that criminal elements -- with US support -- have flooded Iran with heroin from Afghanistan. This is also happening to Iraq.

4. The US has continued with threatening behavior -- toward Iran. Everyone knows who the bully on the block is.

Except you clowns.

No, what you do is declare an attack is coming, and when it doesn't, you claim you meant a "cyber attack" or "heroin attack."

You're a charlatan who simply moves the goalpost and the definition. Hilarious!

[TheDave]

Just a thought... what if everyone ignored Gaf and his issues for a couple of days?

JMO, but the parasite would quickly move on to more fertile grounds if everyone just ignored him for a while. I don't think he has much staying power.

[TailgateNut]

Just a thought... what if everyone ignored Gaf and his issues for a couple of days?

JMO, but the parasite would quickly move on to more fertile grounds if everyone just ignored him for a while. I don't think he has much staying power.


It may have worked with macgruder, He is also annoying as hell.

[The Lone Bolt]

No, what you do is declare an attack is coming, and when it doesn't, you claim you meant a "cyber attack" or "heroin attack."

You're a charlatan who simply moves the goalpost and the definition. Hilarious!

QFT.

[broncocalijohn]

Just a thought... what if everyone ignored Gaf and his issues for a couple of days?

JMO, but the parasite would quickly move on to more fertile grounds if everyone just ignored him for a while. I don't think he has much staying power.

Obvious from this post that TheDave has been missing in action from the Mane. Gaffney doesnt care if we redicule him (as 95% of the responses are) as long as he gets his message out to LABF. Sure they can PM all they want but he is like the crazy guy with the bullhorn at sporting events reciting the bible. No one stops and listens but the guy feels good about spreading the word. Same with Gaffney.

[mhgaffney]

Just a thought... what if everyone ignored Gaf and his issues for a couple of days?

JMO, but the parasite would quickly move on to more fertile grounds if everyone just ignored him for a while. I don't think he has much staying power.

I've been in here for almost 5 years.

And counting. I have no plans to leave.

I am the burr under your skin -- the itch in your comfort zone.

Get used to it.