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gunns
07-12-2011, 08:20 PM
Restaurant bans kids under 6. Discrimination or smart move?.
by Piper Weiss, Shine Staff, on Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:41am PDT11478

At a PA restaurant it's no shirt, no shoes, no kids, no dice. At McDain's Restaurant, in Monroeville, Pennsylvania, kids don't eat free. And starting next week, they don't get to eat at all. Mike Vuick, owner of the Pittsburgh area eatery has just announced a ban on children under 6 at his casual dining establishment.

After receiving noise complaints from customers about crying kids at neighboring tables, Vuick decided to institute the policy, which will go into effect July 16.

In an email to customers, Vuick explained: "We feel that McDain's is not a place for young children. Their volume can't be controlled and many, many times, they have disturbed other customers."

The owner of the "upscale, casual and quiet" restaurant explains to WTAE Local News, he's got nothing against kids in general, but their endless screams at public dinner tables are "the height of being impolite and selfish."

Last year, North Carolina's Olde Salty restaurant made a similar decision. Owner Brenda Armes posted a sign that read "Screaming children will not be tolerated", making it clear to parents when their kids scream, they'll be asked to take it outside. Armes said the move has boosted business, and Vuick is confident his ban will benefit McDain's as well.

But not everyone is on board. Some Monroeville locals are offended that they're being singled out for having young kids, and pointing fingers at noisy adults.

"If they're so concerned about noise, what do they plan to do about the loud people at the bar?" asks one local resident.

It's not illegal to ban kids from eating establishments, but some parents consider the move discriminatory, and potentially a violation of rights for certain special needs kids. What do you think: are kid-free restaurants a great idea or flat-out wrong?

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

Unfortunately it's not the kids, it's the parents. So many I see sit there while their kids climb all over, run up and down aisles, scream. The parents seem to think it's their kids right to do or that ignoring their screaming is working. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but don't do your parenting techniques at the expense of others. And sorry, your kids aren't cute to everyone. Remove the child or deal with the situation and solve it. For the older ones, teaching some manners might be a good idea. For the babies, I know they cry but you weren't given the right to go to a restaurant in the Bill of Rights. I'd go to this restaurant just for this reason.

Archer81
07-12-2011, 08:24 PM
Kids will do what they do. If this is a nicer restaurant, then its mandatory the folks get a sitter. Never understood that. Parents with young kids taking them to a place a kid will be bored, wont eat the food and has nothing designed specifically for them.


:Broncos:

Dr. Broncenstein
07-12-2011, 08:34 PM
Sounds reasonable. Free country.

gunns
07-12-2011, 08:35 PM
Kids will do what they do. If this is a nicer restaurant, then its mandatory the folks get a sitter. Never understood that. Parents with young kids taking them to a place a kid will be bored, wont eat the food and has nothing designed specifically for them.


:Broncos:

Exactly. I have been more than willing to help a parent out when they ARE trying to deal with a child. Hold another child, watch the other child while the parents are dealing with the other one. I know it can be frustrating. But there comes a point where it's time to leave. Lay the ground rules before leaving the house. A child of 3 can understand them as long as your consistent with them. If they don't get it, don't come or get a sitter.

Garcia Bronco
07-12-2011, 08:51 PM
Good on'em.

houghtam
07-12-2011, 09:05 PM
+1

I sometimes wish we could ban kids at the movie theater, but unfortunately they're the ones that drive our business.

I always love speaking with the parents waiting outside in the hall with their kids out of consideration for the other folks in the theater, and offer them a pass to come back every time for their courtesy. I have a 2 year old myself and we've been fortunate for him to sit through movies fairly quietly, but we always sit on the aisle and are ready to take him out into the hall at a moment's notice.

I wish everyone would just use common sense and common courtesy. Guess those things just aren't too common anymore.

That One Guy
07-12-2011, 09:07 PM
I love how at the end it says it may be discriminatory to kids with special needs. It's as if they're struggling to find ANY reason why it should be deemed illegal when special needs kids don't factor into the equation at all.

Don't like it, don't eat there. But I generally think that premise should apply for everything and we had that debate in the old thread about Rand Paul commenting on the civil rights legislation. If it's my business and I choose not to serve you because you smell bad, have kids, or look like a lizard... well, that should be my right. The government though... they don't always see it that way.

That One Guy
07-12-2011, 09:08 PM
+1

I sometimes wish we could ban kids at the movie theater, but unfortunately they're the ones that drive our business.

I always love speaking with the parents waiting outside in the hall with their kids out of consideration for the other folks in the theater, and offer them a pass to come back every time for their courtesy. I have a 2 year old myself and we've been fortunate for him to sit through movies fairly quietly, but we always sit on the aisle and are ready to take him out into the hall at a moment's notice.

I wish everyone would just use common sense and common courtesy. Guess those things just aren't too common anymore.

That's an awesome policy and I bet it's greatly appreciated.

bowtown
07-12-2011, 09:10 PM
His name is Mike Vuick and he runs a restaurant called McD's. Weird.

TDmvp
07-12-2011, 09:20 PM
His name is Mike Vuick and he runs a restaurant called McD's. Weird.



http://www.wayfaring.com/waypt/image1/24191/mcdowells-xlarge.gif

I'm McDowell's. They got the Golden Arches, mine is the Golden Arcs. They got the Big Mac, I got the Big Mick. We both got two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles and onions, but their buns have sesame seeds. My buns have no seeds.

gyldenlove
07-12-2011, 09:22 PM
This is why I prefer to go to strip clubs when I go out to dinner, I hate having noisy kids around me when I eat poorly cooked bland food.

serious hops
07-12-2011, 09:52 PM
I ****ing LOVE this. That is all.

Los Broncos
07-12-2011, 10:06 PM
Not a bad idea, I wish they did this at movies.

Who brings a newborn to a movie, I mean I love kids but when they ruin the movie that isn't cool.

Boobs McGee
07-12-2011, 10:10 PM
FanTASTIC Idea imo. Plenty of restaurants to bring young children to.

here's a link to the video:

http://www.wtae.com/video/28491075/detail.html

Bronco Vixen
07-12-2011, 10:23 PM
Not a bad idea, I wish they did this at movies.

Who brings a newborn to a movie, I mean I love kids but when they ruin the movie that isn't cool.

Not to mention sporting events. What is this new obsession with bringing infants to games? I saw a guy at the Rockies game last week with a baby that I swear was still covered in placenta.

Rule of thumb when we were kids, if you were still loading up your pantaloons, you were not setting foot in a stadium.

Broncoman13
07-12-2011, 10:33 PM
+1

I sometimes wish we could ban kids at the movie theater, but unfortunately they're the ones that drive our business.

I always love speaking with the parents waiting outside in the hall with their kids out of consideration for the other folks in the theater, and offer them a pass to come back every time for their courtesy. I have a 2 year old myself and we've been fortunate for him to sit through movies fairly quietly, but we always sit on the aisle and are ready to take him out into the hall at a moment's notice.

I wish everyone would just use common sense and common courtesy. Guess those things just aren't too common anymore.

Good post!

I have three young kids and agree completely that if your kids are acting up you should be responsible as a parent to either remove them from the environment or calm them so they are not disruptive for others. I can appreciate a business owners decision to eliminate the potential issue... Not like we are talking about McDonalds, IHOP, or Red Robin here.

ghwk
07-12-2011, 10:48 PM
I love how at the end it says it may be discriminatory to kids with special needs. It's as if they're struggling to find ANY reason why it should be deemed illegal when special needs kids don't factor into the equation at all.

Don't like it, don't eat there. But I generally think that premise should apply for everything and we had that debate in the old thread about Rand Paul commenting on the civil rights legislation. If it's my business and I choose not to serve you because you smell bad, have kids, or look like a lizard... well, that should be my right. The government though... they don't always see it that way.

Unfortunately you skipped over why the law was inacted, which proves you to be fairly ignorant in this matter, it's because people used to discriminate simply on color of skin regardless of behavior. You sort of missed the whole discrimination part.

TailgateNut
07-12-2011, 10:54 PM
Restaurant bans kids under 6. Discrimination or smart move?.
by Piper Weiss, Shine Staff, on Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:41am PDT11478

At a PA restaurant it's no shirt, no shoes, no kids, no dice. At McDain's Restaurant, in Monroeville, Pennsylvania, kids don't eat free. And starting next week, they don't get to eat at all. Mike Vuick, owner of the Pittsburgh area eatery has just announced a ban on children under 6 at his casual dining establishment.

After receiving noise complaints from customers about crying kids at neighboring tables, Vuick decided to institute the policy, which will go into effect July 16.

In an email to customers, Vuick explained: "We feel that McDain's is not a place for young children. Their volume can't be controlled and many, many times, they have disturbed other customers."

The owner of the "upscale, casual and quiet" restaurant explains to WTAE Local News, he's got nothing against kids in general, but their endless screams at public dinner tables are "the height of being impolite and selfish."

Last year, North Carolina's Olde Salty restaurant made a similar decision. Owner Brenda Armes posted a sign that read "Screaming children will not be tolerated", making it clear to parents when their kids scream, they'll be asked to take it outside. Armes said the move has boosted business, and Vuick is confident his ban will benefit McDain's as well.

But not everyone is on board. Some Monroeville locals are offended that they're being singled out for having young kids, and pointing fingers at noisy adults.

"If they're so concerned about noise, what do they plan to do about the loud people at the bar?" asks one local resident.

It's not illegal to ban kids from eating establishments, but some parents consider the move discriminatory, and potentially a violation of rights for certain special needs kids. What do you think: are kid-free restaurants a great idea or flat-out wrong?

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

Unfortunately it's not the kids, it's the parents. So many I see sit there while their kids climb all over, run up and down aisles, scream. The parents seem to think it's their kids right to do or that ignoring their screaming is working. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but don't do your parenting techniques at the expense of others. And sorry, your kids aren't cute to everyone. Remove the child or deal with the situation and solve it. For the older ones, teaching some manners might be a good idea. For the babies, I know they cry but you weren't given the right to go to a restaurant in the Bill of Rights. I'd go to this restaurant just for this reason.


:thumbs:

TailgateNut
07-12-2011, 10:57 PM
Good post!

I have three young kids and agree completely that if your kids are acting up you should be responsible as a parent to either remove them from the environment or calm them so they are not disruptive for others. I can appreciate a business owners decision to eliminate the potential issue... Not like we are talking about McDonalds, IHOP, or Red Robin here.


No wonder you haven't been at the games lately. They don't allow noisemakers at Incestco.;D

That One Guy
07-12-2011, 11:00 PM
Unfortunately you skipped over why the law was inacted, which proves you to be fairly ignorant in this matter, it's because people used to discriminate simply on color of skin regardless of behavior. You sort of missed the whole discrimination part.

No, it wasn't missed.

ghwk
07-12-2011, 11:06 PM
No, it wasn't missed.

Sorry I get it, being a racist and banning on basis of skin color is cool with you.

cutthemdown
07-13-2011, 12:54 AM
I love this. I hope some places around me do this and I will for sure go eat there. I like the idea of 18 and over movie theaters also. My brother does some legal work for the arc light cinemas that serve liquor, those are pretty cool. Kids running around being brats ruins things for other adults. People with kids should train their little snot nosed creatures better.

Doggcow
07-13-2011, 01:12 AM
Good. Kids are ****ing annoying.

I banned them from my apartment and relationships.

Bronco Boy
07-13-2011, 01:41 AM
Are there any airlines that don't allow kids? That would be awesome.

Taco John
07-13-2011, 01:45 AM
As a father with two kids under 6, I have no problem with this.

montrose
07-13-2011, 02:50 AM
Champ24 endorses this idea and prays the Broncos follow suit with training camp.

Hogan11
07-13-2011, 04:49 AM
Are there any airlines that don't allow kids? That would be awesome.

I'd pay the extra money to fly it.

Goobzilla
07-13-2011, 05:39 AM
I would eat 3 squares a day there if it was closer.

Requiem
07-13-2011, 06:25 AM
Always abhorred parents who brought their ugly, whiny kids to ruin my time in public -- whether it be at state fairs, restaurants or the movies.

GOOD JOB!

Gcver2ver3
07-13-2011, 07:54 AM
i fully support it...

I'm a father and even i get annoyed when screaming babies are in attendance...either get a sitter or don't come to a place that will disturb 80% of the establishment for your own desires...

i get 2 times more annoyed with parents that don't know how to keep their toddlers behaved...if the child is 4 years+ and you allow them to act like maniacs, you should be promptly escorted out...

Garcia Bronco
07-13-2011, 08:11 AM
Not to mention sporting events. What is this new obsession with bringing infants to games? I saw a guy at the Rockies game last week with a baby that I swear was still covered in placenta.

Rule of thumb when we were kids, if you were still loading up your pantaloons, you were not setting foot in a stadium.

People are bringing them to Phish shows now. I am not talking about the Wookie and his wouldbe wife. I am talking regular people.

ghwk
07-13-2011, 09:50 AM
I also have no problem with the ban although I would kind of hope that it was restricted to higher end restaurants. We don't take our kids to anything other than a Denny's style place where they can get exposed to going out and behaving well. We set that expactation before we leave the house. The minute someone acts up though a parent and a child are immediately outside so we don't ruin another families meal. Taking my wife somewhere nice when we are trying to get away from the kids I don't want to see another kid in the restaurant.

I don't get the people that have turned their dogs into children either and bring them into stores and some cafe's. I love dogs but WTF they are dogs and can stay home for a bit.

Taco John
07-13-2011, 09:58 AM
>> We set that expactation before we leave the house.




The key to good parenting. We've found that we have almost no troubles with our son if before we do anything, we clearly explain what we're doing, what is expected, and what the benefits and consequences will be for good/bad behavior.

Dr. Broncenstein
07-13-2011, 10:12 AM
Always abhorred parents who brought their ugly, whiny kids to ruin my time in public -- whether it be at state fairs, restaurants or the movies.

GOOD JOB!

You sound like an ugly, whiny kid.

Jesterhole
07-13-2011, 10:31 AM
Sounds awesome. Can't stand parents who bring their kids to movies/dinners/concerts and then let them run wild.

What we also need is the adult rock show.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKA1V-YcnU

Mountain Bronco
07-13-2011, 10:37 AM
I have a 3 year old and I endorse this restaurants right to choose. We take our daughter out to eat fairly often, because we like to go out and have a good meal and want her to appreciate the same. We have taken her to top notch restaurants and it usually goes fairly well, but it takes a ton of work on the parents part and the willingness to stick to the consequences you lay out.

A ton of parents these days just don't want to put in that work or battle with the kids, so they let them do what they want and I find it disgusting.

Last week my daughter wasn't great (not bad either) when she got a little loud and intentionally spilled a spoon full of rice she didn't like. It didn't bother anyone, she didn't run around or cry, but she still didn't get desert because of that instance. Most parent I know would be horrified that we denied her desert because of these "little things", but it is the only way to teach kids how to behave appropriately in these settings.

It is amazing to see young adults at nice restaurants that don't know how to behave because their parents never tought them.

Rant over.

ColoradoDarin
07-13-2011, 01:29 PM
I'm with the majority here. 1) I see no problem with the policy and 2) my 2 kids under 3 are well behaved (I can bounce a baby with one arm and eat with the other). It takes time, work and consistency to get the kids behaved that way, too many parents are more concerned with being "liked" by their kids instead of raising them, and the kids don't end up liking (or respecting) them anyways.

GreatBronco16
07-13-2011, 01:43 PM
I wish the majority of resturants would do this.

Mogulseeker
07-13-2011, 01:45 PM
Sounds reasonable. Free country.

^

worm
07-13-2011, 01:45 PM
The movie theater down the street has an 18 and over policy because they serve alcohol. The lack of kids at the movie makes going out to see a show much more palatable again.

Course, the fact that they bring me a drink to my seat every time I press a button might have something to do with my increased enjoyment level.

Pony Boy
07-13-2011, 01:54 PM
Not a bad idea, I wish they did this at movies.

Who brings a newborn to a movie, I mean I love kids but when they ruin the movie that isn't cool.

So I guess a newborn on a backpacking trip is a no-no too, wow you're hard to get along with.

OBF1
07-13-2011, 03:24 PM
I am all in on this. Nothing worse that "parents" not having a clue on how to be a PARENT. I would visit a local no children restaurant all the time.

Requiem
07-13-2011, 04:09 PM
You sound like an ugly, whiny kid.

You sound like penis.

Mogulseeker
07-13-2011, 05:37 PM
You sound like penis.

What does that's even mean?

If your penis makes a sound, perhaps the good doctor can pencil you in.

orange crusher
07-13-2011, 05:50 PM
At a PA restaurant it's no shirt, no shoes, no kids, no dice.

The way that's written, it sounds like you have to have kids...or maybe you can't have a shirt, shoes or kids.

Dr. Broncenstein
07-13-2011, 05:59 PM
What does that's even mean?

If your penis makes a sound, perhaps the good doctor can pencil you in.

The noise you refer to is the sound of lonesome crying. I can't fix that.

OBF1
07-13-2011, 06:27 PM
I'm with the majority here. 1) I see no problem with the policy and 2) my 2 kids under 3 are well behaved (I can bounce a baby with one arm and eat with the other). It takes time, work and consistency to get the kids behaved that way, too many parents are more concerned with being "liked" by their kids instead of raising them, and the kids don't end up liking (or respecting) them anyways.

I say this all the time... You are supposed to be a parent, teaching them how to become responsible, respectful and overall good human beings.

Raise them as such and then worry about being their friend once they leave the nest.

Los Broncos
07-13-2011, 06:38 PM
You sound like penis.

Remember that drawing you had of Foster is no imposter, or whatever it was.

Drunk Monkey
07-13-2011, 06:50 PM
First off I agree, it is the restaurant's option to do what ever they want. No problem with that.

Having said that have that many of you really had that many problems with kids in restaurants? I am trying to remember a really bad episode and can't. The worst was a flight from Hong Kong to Singapore where a very young baby whaled the whole way (the mother kept saying she has been traveling for 12 hours) I felt worst for the mom then the rest of us.

broncosteven
07-13-2011, 08:11 PM
As a father with two kids under 6, I have no problem with this.

Me neither. The only problem I can see is that if they have that many people bringing in kids they may be losing out on a lot of business.

We took my daughter to Del Friscos in Denver when she was pretty young but we were in from out of town and we went early and it was my wife's birthday. If we go out somewhere upscale with kids where it could be a judgement call we go very early when they aren't as busy.

Mogulseeker
07-13-2011, 08:27 PM
The way that's written, it sounds like you have to have kids...or maybe you can't have a shirt, shoes or kids.

Hooray double negatives!

That writer should go back to journalism school.

gyldenlove
07-13-2011, 08:43 PM
Can I just say that people who go to movie theatres and eat crunchy food and candy, handle loud wrapping during the movie, slurp drinks, forget to turn off their cell phones or can't keep their burger-trap shut should be viciously beaten.

Kids are annoying if they are not handled right, but kids have an excuse they don't know any better. I would never smack someone elses kid for being loud or annoying in public, I might want to smack the parent though. People who are not kids and have not outgrown their annoying habbits are antisocial and deserve every horrible thing that happens to them.

Archer81
07-14-2011, 01:28 AM
The last few times I have gone to the movies I tried to do it on a weekday before school let out. It dramatically cut down on the kids present. But what does bug me is parents who let 12-15 year olds out without some form of supervision. They move in packs, text throughout the flick and pull that bull**** teenage drama in public.

Like, look giggles. Like shut that ****ing phone off or like I will beat you with like your best friend's detatched bloody arms. So like sit the **** down and like shut the **** up.

Rant over.

:Broncos:

DBroncos4life
07-14-2011, 01:41 AM
People should learn to cook at there own house so they won't be bothered.

I don't smoke. I went places that lots of people smoked. I didn't bitch about it cause it was my choice. Now that the laws changed that's great. I didn't ask for them tho. Parents can't do anything about there kids acting out in public anyways, well that is if they want to keep there kids.

ElwayMD
07-14-2011, 07:31 AM
The last few times I have gone to the movies I tried to do it on a weekday before school let out. It dramatically cut down on the kids present. But what does bug me is parents who let 12-15 year olds out without some form of supervision. They move in packs, text throughout the flick and pull that bull**** teenage drama in public.

Like, look giggles. Like shut that ****ing phone off or like I will beat you with like your best friend's detatched bloody arms. So like sit the **** down and like shut the **** up.

Rant over.

:Broncos:

I make an effort to annoy the mobs of hooligan middle schoolers. I've purposely walked into groups of them while they hog the sidewalk looking down at their phones not paying attention to the world around them. I've knocked over some wanna be gangsters and then politely apologized saying "whoops sorry thought you saw me there and were going to make some room." They get checked enough maybe they will learn :) I can't blame it on parenting though. I teach 6th graders and I must say that they lose their minds and become so self absorbed until maybe the end of high school. In theaters I have no problem with giving them a warning and then getting the management of the theater. Half the time they just get up and leave since they aren't there to watch the movie in the first place.

Garcia Bronco
07-14-2011, 08:48 AM
Me neither. The only problem I can see is that if they have that many people bringing in kids they may be losing out on a lot of business.

We took my daughter to Del Friscos in Denver when she was pretty young but we were in from out of town and we went early and it was my wife's birthday. If we go out somewhere upscale with kids where it could be a judgement call we go very early when they aren't as busy.

I'll go there because they don't allow children under 6.

FireFly
07-14-2011, 12:11 PM
I'm on my honeymoon and the resort is Adults only. Its AMAZING.

cutthemdown
07-14-2011, 12:33 PM
I make an effort to annoy the mobs of hooligan middle schoolers. I've purposely walked into groups of them while they hog the sidewalk looking down at their phones not paying attention to the world around them. I've knocked over some wanna be gangsters and then politely apologized saying "whoops sorry thought you saw me there and were going to make some room." They get checked enough maybe they will learn :) I can't blame it on parenting though. I teach 6th graders and I must say that they lose their minds and become so self absorbed until maybe the end of high school. In theaters I have no problem with giving them a warning and then getting the management of the theater. Half the time they just get up and leave since they aren't there to watch the movie in the first place.

LOL i did same thing once. I was at mall and these stupid hoodlum teens just kept bumping into my mom, no respect. So I noticed one that had bumped us earlier starting down at cell phone, trouncing down the middle of the mall making people part for him like he's moses and they are the red sea. So I just put head down and plowed straight into him. Broke his phone and knocked him to the ground. :) Whoops thought you saw me! I love it!

chadta
07-14-2011, 02:31 PM
I love it, wish some place around here would do it, i say that not just because my kids have alwasy been the best behaved kids in the world, but becasue if they dared to act up even for a second it would be the last time we went out, and they knew it.

Few years ago i almost got into a fight on a bus at disney in florida, i had the nerve to ask a guy if he could get his kid to quiet down, it was a baby, it was 9 at night, and i guess they kept the kid at the theme parks all day, he couldnt figure out why the baby was crying, so i told him what an idiot he was and that he was being mean to the kid, oh yeah then i clapped when he got off the bus, man was he pissed.

Funny tho once i started clapping the whole bus started, which only got him even more pissed, i was halfway off the bus when my wife grabbed the back of my shirt and told me not to encourage him and to sit the **** down.

That One Guy
07-14-2011, 02:32 PM
I'm on my honeymoon and the resort is Adults only. Its AMAZING.

I've heard of those. You pay a fee and a companion joins you and your new bride for the weekend or something, right?

Or is the kind that has the parties and everyone just has random fun?

That One Guy
07-14-2011, 02:34 PM
I love it, wish some place around here would do it, i say that not just because my kids have alwasy been the best behaved kids in the world, but becasue if they dared to act up even for a second it would be the last time we went out, and they knew it.

Few years ago i almost got into a fight on a bus at disney in florida, i had the nerve to ask a guy if he could get his kid to quiet down, it was a baby, it was 9 at night, and i guess they kept the kid at the theme parks all day, he couldnt figure out why the baby was crying, so i told him what an idiot he was and that he was being mean to the kid, oh yeah then i clapped when he got off the bus, man was he pissed.

Funny tho once i started clapping the whole bus started, which only got him even more pissed, i was halfway off the bus when my wife grabbed the back of my shirt and told me not to encourage him and to sit the **** down.

Disney must be the place to have fights. I almost had one 'cause some ****ers wouldn't quit inviting their friends to join. They'd have one person wait in line and then have like 10 people come join them. I put my arm out and wouldn't let them pass. It was either punches, their friends waited, or I went in front of the guy. He ended up letting me in front. I f'ing hate that place.

Peoples Champ
07-14-2011, 03:00 PM
[QUOTE=gunns;3216186]

"If they're so concerned about noise, what do they plan to do about the loud people at the bar?" asks one local resident.

QUOTE]

Commenting on this one, I think the difference is that the loud people at the bar are dropping serious money at the bar rather then a kids chicken finger.

Also,

The bar noise is the result from many people. A kid screaming is usually just 1 kid. Usually not 1 adult will be as loud as 1 screaming kid (i said usually, because ocasionally u get the 1 drunk idiot being kinda loud, but not like a screaming kid. And that drunk idiot probably just dropped $100 at the bar)

Peoples Champ
07-14-2011, 03:02 PM
i agree with this, i was just at a sushi restuarant and there was a screaming kid next to us and it made it so bad we wanted to leave. What are 2 year olds doing eating sushi anyways?

jhns
07-14-2011, 03:13 PM
Disney must be the place to have fights.

That is where I go to pick fights. It is a great place to find people I can beat up. Very few of the kids have actually put up a good fight. I hardly ever lose.

chadta
07-14-2011, 04:13 PM
Disney must be the place to have fights. I almost had one 'cause some ****ers wouldn't quit inviting their friends to join. They'd have one person wait in line and then have like 10 people come join them. I put my arm out and wouldn't let them pass. It was either punches, their friends waited, or I went in front of the guy. He ended up letting me in front. I f'ing hate that place.

I once had an indian lady (dot not feather) bump into me 3 times to try and get by, i turned looked her in the eye and said the word you are looking for is excuse me. Then her son gave me **** cuz she didnt speak english very well, i said well this is canada we have 2 official languages, learn to speak one of them or go home, he pointed out that she has been here for 30 years, so i said she must be a really slow learner if she couldnt pick up any english in 30 years. They got on the ride, and in my best apu voice i said thank you come again. The whole line laughed hysterically.

The whole self importance thing is only amplified at theme parks, nobody would dare think that you dont want to be waiting in line either, they are the only people in the park stuck in line, and everybody else is just in the way.

davidtkd
07-14-2011, 05:09 PM
Here in Madison, a couple decided to take their kids (must have been 4 & 6) to the 10:30 PM showing of BAD TEACHER. Who does that?

Good article here about the topic of bratty kids. http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-05/opinion/granderson.bratty.kids_1_airtran-flight-kid-free-tantrum?_s=PM:OPINION

ZachKC
07-14-2011, 05:10 PM
http://www.wayfaring.com/waypt/image1/24191/mcdowells-xlarge.gif

Ha! ROFL!

ZachKC
07-14-2011, 05:12 PM
Movie theater around here is 21+ it is pretty nice.

gunns
07-14-2011, 06:24 PM
Here in Madison, a couple decided to take their kids (must have been 4 & 6) to the 10:30 PM showing of BAD TEACHER. Who does that?

Good article here about the topic of bratty kids. http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-05/opinion/granderson.bratty.kids_1_airtran-flight-kid-free-tantrum?_s=PM:OPINION

Oh hell yes! My kids still talk about "the look" and I've seen my kids use it with their kids. That article nails it.

Children are wonderful but they are not the center of the universe. The sooner their parents make them understand that, the better off we all will be.

This is the part of child-rearing people don't like to discuss, because socially, it's not OK to dislike kids. The ugly truth is it's the spineless parents who parade their undisciplined children around like royalty that make people dislike kids.



Children whose parents allow them to believe they are the center of the Universe are the children who grow up with a sense of entitlement, the ones at the welfare office with their hands out year after year.

Meck77
07-14-2011, 06:26 PM
I think restaurants should make screaming children sections. That way families with brats could torture one another!

chadta
07-14-2011, 06:37 PM
I think restaurants should make screaming children sections. That way families with brats could torture one another!

can we combine that with the smoking section, then the rest of us can have food in peace.

davidtkd
07-14-2011, 06:44 PM
Oh hell yes! My kids still talk about "the look" and I've seen my kids use it with their kids. That article nails it.



Children whose parents allow them to believe they are the center of the Universe are the children who grow up with a sense of entitlement, the ones at the welfare office with their hands out year after year.

They aren't the only ones who end up feeling they are entitled. I work at UW-Madison and have to remind these little welps that you do average work, you get a "C" not the "A" you feel entitled to.

TheReverend
07-14-2011, 07:14 PM
They aren't the only ones who end up feeling they are entitled. I work at UW-Madison and have to remind these little welps that you do average work, you get a "C" not the "A" you feel entitled to.

lol I'm a slacker than went to Whitewater, sup.

davidtkd
07-15-2011, 11:24 AM
lol I'm a slacker than went to Whitewater, sup.

That explains the inflatable lobster. And the stench. :yayaya:

sup dude?!

Bronco Yoda
07-15-2011, 11:30 AM
I'm on my honeymoon and the resort is Adults only. Its AMAZING.

... and you're here? ok :giggle:

TheReverend
07-15-2011, 11:30 AM
That explains the inflatable lobster. And the stench. :yayaya:

sup dude?!

Haha!

And I wasn't nearly good enough to play for Madison...

...but still too good for Lacross and Stevens Point :rofl:

You live in an awesome city, I'm jealous

enjolras
07-15-2011, 02:17 PM
I'm on my honeymoon and the resort is Adults only. Its AMAZING.

I leave for my yearly adults only resort vacation in one week.

I can't fricking wait.

davidtkd
07-15-2011, 03:55 PM
Haha!

And I wasn't nearly good enough to play for Madison...

...but still too good for Lacross and Stevens Point :rofl:

You live in an awesome city, I'm jealous

LOL! You should be jealous. I LOVE this city! great place to raise kids.