Biggest Lame-Dock Today

[Boomhauer]

...... considering who/how many aren't listening, how important the job is, etc.

Too close for me to call, but I'd put Boehner at the back because that's just Congress.
Bernanke, Hildo and little-O being the epic-fails they are is a much more serious problem.

[That One Guy]

Well, Clinton already said she's leaving so she's going on her own terms. Hardly comparable to the others.

[Rigs11]

Tanned Boner wants to go back to what Biden proposed last month.oh and he opposed it then.durrrr

http://m.examiner.com/examiner/pm_60979/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=hvJWeRq8

[Boomhauer]

Boehner might be the top "Biggest Lame Duck" consideration this week by absolutely floundering and caving on deficit reductions.

~ Proposed just $1tril in cuts over 10yrs to match $1tril in ceiling, but only $9bil would be recognized next year
~ Couldn't get his own House members to agree until guaranteeing it's tax-free, will never pass and is just symbolic
~ No discussion of long term 10:1 / cuts:taxes spending plan, only the fraudulent $4tril proposed by Biden
~ Boehner hasn't mentioned abolishing the practice of raising the debt ceiling and using the Fed's bloated account to cover excess spending until the budget is balanced. It's taken another House member, Ron Paul, to do that.
~ Lastly, he's yet to call out TresSec Geithner's fictitious Aug 2nd deadline or mention it's possibly Aug 9-10 (below), while other projections have it late-Aug or mid-Sept. Either way, little-O and his puppet Geithner are both liars. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/22/debt-ceiling-august-10_n_907480.html
http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4e29e6f349e2ae4605310000/chart-of-the-day-opening-cash-balance-outlays-july-2011.jpg

[That One Guy]

Boehner might be the top "Biggest Lame Duck" consideration this week by absolutely floundering and caving on deficit reductions.

~ Proposed just $1tril in cuts over 10yrs to match $1tril in ceiling, but only $9bil would be recognized next year
~ Couldn't get his own House members to agree until guaranteeing it's tax-free, will never pass and is just symbolic
~ No discussion of long term 10:1 / cuts:taxes spending plan, only the fraudulent $4tril proposed by Biden
~ Boehner hasn't mentioned abolishing the practice of raising the debt ceiling and using the Fed's bloated account to cover excess spending until the budget is balanced. It's taken another House member, Ron Paul, to do that.
~ Lastly, he's yet to call out TresSec Geithner's fictitious Aug 2nd deadline or mention it's possibly Aug 9-10 (below), while other projections have it late-Aug or mid-Sept. Either way, little-O and his puppet Geithner are both liars. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/22/debt-ceiling-august-10_n_907480.html
http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4e29e6f349e2ae4605310000/chart-of-the-day-opening-cash-balance-outlays-july-2011.jpg

There's just a huge split in the R party right now. In a Ron Paul interview a while back, he talked about how he basically had to be an R to get national recognition and spoke of basically taking over the party. It sounded like they had to take it over and keep the name for national recognition. I think there are a lot of conservatives who are ideally aligned with the Tea Party and if there were a split of the traditional Rs and the Tea Party, I could see the Tea Party folk holding their ground. They're more fiscally conservative where the traditional Rs are often more socially conservative. I wonder if the traditional R role isn't old and played out already.

[That One Guy]

Tanned Boner wants to go back to what Biden proposed last month.oh and he opposed it then.durrrr

http://m.examiner.com/examiner/pm_60979/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=hvJWeRq8

It sounded like the developments from today are showing Boner is done. When he had to throw out a bone that'd never pass the senate just to get his own guys on board, there's a problem.

[That One Guy]

The term for "traditional R' is GOP. They died years ago once they agreed to big Gov and civil/human rights abuses. Same with the 'traditional D' party, or Progressives, that have done the same, committed the same and are now dead because of it.

I think by traditional I mean basically just pre-Tea Party. I don't really know enough to know what the party once was, I've only known politics (aside from general history) for about the last 10ish years. In the time I've really paid attention, the two parties have been arguing over details rather than any real substance so I'd like to see a bigger divide.

[Boomhauer]

I don't really know enough to know what the party once was, I've only known politics (aside from general history) for about the last 10ish years.

Brief history since industrialization began;
~ Dems were the big Gov(conservative) and socially conservative party (ie; Plantation owners) while Reps were limited Gov(liberal) and socially liberal through the early 1900's.
~ After WWII, the social conservatives poached the Rep party and Dems re-marketed themselves as civil rights champions, but the big Gov/small Gov divide remained. At that point, there was no longer a complete Liberal and Conservative party, but two parties that were half and half (Gov size and social values).
~ Beginning in the 70's, Reps abandoned small Gov ideals for the military industrial complex funding and later (last decade) completely sold out. Though they still claimed small Gov, they'd become what the Dems were a hundred years earlier. At the same time, Dems abandoned the civil rights agenda for the clandestine (later terrorism) industrial complex funding. At that point, the only difference between Dems and Reps were marque social issues like gays and abortion. Everything else was big Gov agreement (ie; deficit money train, corporate welfare and civil/human rights abuses).
~ But in politics, like commerce, demand breeds supply and the absence of liberal value representation has empowered Tea-Party and Libertarians to offer alternatives (first glimpse was Green Party-Nader) to the two-headed beast of Progressives and the GOP.