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broncosteven
07-08-2011, 11:03 PM
Do you guys use these things? I find I would rather wait in line than use these if I have more than about 5 items.

I would rather have the store do the work.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43687085/ns/business-consumer_news/

Major grocer getting rid of self-checkout lanes

One of the nation's major grocery store chains is eliminating self-checkout lanes in an effort to encourage more human contact with its customers.
Albertsons LLC, which operates 217 stores in seven Western and Southern states, will eliminate all self-checkout lanes in the 100 stores that have them and will replace them with standard or express lanes, a spokeswoman said.
"We just want the opportunity to talk to customers more," Albertsons spokeswoman Christine Wilcox said. "That's the driving motivation."
Wilcox said the replacement of automated checkout lanes with human-operated lanes likely would mean more hours available for employees to work.
The move marks a surprising step back from a trend that began about a decade ago, when supermarkets began installing self-checkout lanes, touting them as a solution to long lines. Now some grocery chains are questioning whether they are really good for business.
Kroger, the largest grocery chain in the U.S. (with some 2,500 outlets), is experimenting with removing all self-checkouts in at least one Texas store, reports StorefrontBacktalk, an industry publication. Publix, another major chain, is "on the fence" about self-checkout, according to a report quoted in the story.

Requiem
07-08-2011, 11:05 PM
I'll use them if they are open and I'm getting a few items.

Otherwise, I make those pimple and lazy-eyed faces earn their $7.25 an hour.

Boobs McGee
07-08-2011, 11:21 PM
I love em...bag my own groceries and pay in about half the time. BUT, if I have more than ten or fifteen things I just go through the line.

Bronco Yoda
07-08-2011, 11:23 PM
I hate the ones at lowes and home depot. Nothing ever fits in their little system.

Taco John
07-09-2011, 12:53 AM
I prefer to use them unless I have a grip of stuff in the cart - then I let the checker do it.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-09-2011, 01:11 AM
I never buy much at the grocery store and generally use them exclusively.

HAT
07-09-2011, 02:01 AM
I'll use them if they are open and I'm getting a few items.

Otherwise, I make those pimple and lazy-eyed faces earn their $7.25 an hour.

Grocery Store checkers made double that.....................In 1985.

DBroncos4life
07-09-2011, 02:31 AM
Do you guys use these things? I find I would rather wait in line than use these if I have more than about 5 items.

I would rather have the store do the work.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43687085/ns/business-consumer_news/

Major grocer getting rid of self-checkout lanes

One of the nation's major grocery store chains is eliminating self-checkout lanes in an effort to encourage more human contact with its customers.
Albertsons LLC, which operates 217 stores in seven Western and Southern states, will eliminate all self-checkout lanes in the 100 stores that have them and will replace them with standard or express lanes, a spokeswoman said.
"We just want the opportunity to talk to customers more," Albertsons spokeswoman Christine Wilcox said. "That's the driving motivation."
Wilcox said the replacement of automated checkout lanes with human-operated lanes likely would mean more hours available for employees to work.
The move marks a surprising step back from a trend that began about a decade ago, when supermarkets began installing self-checkout lanes, touting them as a solution to long lines. Now some grocery chains are questioning whether they are really good for business.
Kroger, the largest grocery chain in the U.S. (with some 2,500 outlets), is experimenting with removing all self-checkouts in at least one Texas store, reports StorefrontBacktalk, an industry publication. Publix, another major chain, is "on the fence" about self-checkout, according to a report quoted in the story.

I loved Albertsons, truth be told it was one of the few things I knew I would miss about moving away from Billings.

DHallblows
07-09-2011, 03:05 AM
The self checkout line is fantastic. It's way quicker for everything except fruits and veggies (who buys those anyway) and there's always a shorter line because a) there are 6 registers in the space of 1 cashier and b) the old people are too confused/scared to use them.

Albertsons is like #3 or 4 on my list of stores I'd go to. This just seals them as the worst grocery store option around. I'd probably go to Walmart for food before I'd go to an Albertsons...

Broncos_OTM
07-09-2011, 03:54 AM
I'll use them if they are open and I'm getting a few items.

Otherwise, I make those pimple and lazy-eyed faces earn their $7.25 an hour.

Welcome to Kmart folks!

Jay3
07-09-2011, 05:16 AM
Seems odd to get rid of them. The obvious solution is just to make sure there are plenty of human check out lanes, and people can choose for themselves.

It really depends on how many items I have and what they are.

Garcia Bronco
07-09-2011, 05:42 AM
I use them almost exclusively. Best thing ever.

Garcia Bronco
07-09-2011, 05:44 AM
Grocery Store checkers made double that.....................In 1985.

Yep and A&P, for example, folded because of it.

elsid13
07-09-2011, 06:07 AM
Best thing ever. The only time they are pain in the ass when you have idiots in front of you that don't know how to use them and when you have to have the clerk concur you are the right age to buy beer.

That One Guy
07-09-2011, 07:34 AM
I got into using self checkouts on military bases where you're expected to tip your baggers. I hated having to tip when I rarely bought much and had just grown used to cashiers bagging your stuff at the other stores I go to. There used to be a good 10+ minute wait for self checkout there while the human lines went empty.

As long as there's no bagger scenario like that, I like the self-checkout lanes but only because they're usually quicker to get through than the other lanes. You have the gamble that one idiot can screw the whole system up and grind to a halt. You also have those people trying to check out a huge grocery cart full of stuff and you just know it's going to mess up. They should just make them express lanes, limit the items the computer can take to 20 or whatever, and keep them as a quick alternative to waiting in line.

Gcver2ver3
07-09-2011, 07:46 AM
Don't like them...for 2 reasons...

1. at first i'd use them when only buying a few items, but the scanners on the self check out lane would be so difficult that i'd spend more time trying to get the scanner to scan on the bar code, than if i had gotten in a regular check out lane...

2. also, i hated waiting behind someone in the self check out line because it seemed like whomever i was behind, had no clue what they were doing, and would take forever and a day...

gunns
07-09-2011, 08:02 AM
Absolutely love them when I have 25 items or less. Walk right up, check out, while everyone else is standing behind the idiot who has decided to write the check and doesn't start writing it until the order is rung up or doesn't know how to use the debit/credit card reader or is disagreeing on a price that has rung up. OMG!

Miss I.
07-09-2011, 08:05 AM
Absolutely love them when I have 25 items or less. Walk right up, check out, while everyone else is standing behind the idiot who has decided to write the check and doesn't start writing it until the order is rung up or doesn't know how to use the debit/credit card reader or is disagreeing on a price that has rung up. OMG!

must love the check writers in the no check lane. This one time my friend and I were behind such a dumbass, and so I started talking about this story I read in a magazine (I did actually read this too) about a woman who was shot by someone in grocery store for writing a check in the no checks line. The woman kind of glanced at us a bit worriedly while the checker was trying not to laugh.

As for the checkout things themselves, they are fine with easy scan items and small amounts, but anything big or alcohol is a pain in the ass.

Drunk Monkey
07-09-2011, 08:55 AM
My Costco also got rid of them.

In general I love them, my only problem is the bagging part of it. Nothing ever seams to fit the weight that is is supposed to. You get that anoying warning about incorrect item in bagging tray ect.

Broncoman13
07-09-2011, 08:58 AM
Don't care for them at all. Seems like every other time I use them the sensor in the bagger acts up. Please place item in bag... (I place the 6 pack of razors in the bag)... Please place item in bag... (I take the item out and put it back in this time with a little added pressure)... Please wait for attendant. SCHIT!!!!!!

Hogan11
07-09-2011, 09:00 AM
I used to use them, but then I stopped because jobs are hard to come by and this is putting some kid out of work somewhere. I generally grocery shop late at night anyways, so I'm in and I'm out in record time regardless.

Rock Chalk
07-09-2011, 09:09 AM
I hear lots of people have problems with it.

The Problem is you not the scanner.

My dad refuses to use them because he feels it takes someone's job away.

I myself will only use a checker if there is no one in line. I'd prefer the checker to be honest but I prefer not waiting more. So I rarely use checkers as there is almost always someone in line.

BroncoLifer
07-09-2011, 09:28 AM
"We just want the opportunity to talk to customers more," Albertsons spokeswoman Christine Wilcox said. "That's the driving motivation."


My main reason for preferring the self-checkout is that then I don't have to talk to the checkers. I'm at the store to buy stuff, not to chit chat or answer their inane "do you need any help out with that?" questions.

That One Guy
07-09-2011, 09:37 AM
I used to use them, but then I stopped because jobs are hard to come by and this is putting some kid out of work somewhere. I generally grocery shop late at night anyways, so I'm in and I'm out in record time regardless.

I understand the logic but it doesn't seem like that'll fix anything. There's been plenty of times I've been at a store, lines have been silly, and there's like 2 registers going out of 10. If I wait in line, it tells the stores that I'm willing to wait and they can raise their profits by cutting back on cashiers. If I don't wait in line, I tell them that I might be unwilling to accept lines or I might be saying I don't care if there's no cashiers. Either way, waiting in line isn't going to get anyone back to work (by my figurin').

Los Broncos
07-09-2011, 09:42 AM
It seems every time I use them they have to call someone over, like the machine failed or something.

Then you have a bunch of people behind you pissed off.

That One Guy
07-09-2011, 09:45 AM
My main reason for preferring the self-checkout is that then I don't have to talk to the checkers. I'm at the store to buy stuff, not to chit chat or answer their inane "do you need any help out with that?" questions.

I recently moved to Florida (and I don't mean to be racist here) but I've had some of the worst experiences with their cashiers here. Almost all my bad experiences are with the young black cashiers (who make up a very large percentage of the workers) having horrible attitudes. They scowl at you, stop ringing stuff up to talk to their buddies in the next lane, ask questions very rudely (like if I have a coupon or something), tell you to take your bags like they're barking orders in the military, and even had people getting pissed for having to help me get a fishing license the other day. I've gotten to the point that if I have a question, I look for an older lady or just don't bother getting it answered.

I never had a problem with the silly questions and trying to be proactively helpful in the past but down here it is a real problem. I never thought to just use the self checkout to avoid them (short line is usually my only consideration for checkout) but if they're anything like this, I can understand avoiding them entirely.

Meck77
07-09-2011, 09:46 AM
Food at the stores will KILL YOU. I only buy from the amish with cash. I travel to baja mexico for my whole milk which is the only place on the planet you can get it.

Bronco Yoda
07-09-2011, 09:53 AM
Or just raid your neighbors gardens late at night. You gotta get the lay of the land first. Don't want any motion lights going off. Also plastic bags are a no no. They crinkle too much. Stamp a few Alien feet or even Big Foot tracks in the soft soil for fun. ;0

Los Broncos
07-09-2011, 10:02 AM
Or just raid your neighbors gardens late at night. You gotta get the lay of the land first. Don't want any motion lights going off. Also plastic bags are a no no. They crinkle too much. Stamp a few Alien feet or even Big Foot tracks in the soft soil for fun. ;0

Hilarious!

HAT
07-09-2011, 10:08 AM
[QUOTE=broncosteven;3213424]Do you guys use these things? I find I would rather wait in line than use these if I have more than about 5 items.

I would rather have the store do the work.
QUOTE]

ATMs....Do you guys use these things? I find I would rather wait in line and have the bank do the work.

HAT
07-09-2011, 10:09 AM
Food at the stores will KILL YOU. I only buy from the amish with cash. I travel to baja mexico for my whole milk which is the only place on the planet you can get it.
^5

vancejohnson82
07-09-2011, 10:12 AM
try doing it on salvia

Popps
07-09-2011, 10:26 AM
God,

Please let football start soon.


Yours,

Popps

That One Guy
07-09-2011, 10:27 AM
God,

Please let football start soon.


Yours,

Popps

Just scan the forums, see if there's football threads, then move along. Would this place be more enjoyable if there were dead threads sitting on the main board from the draft?

Pony Boy
07-09-2011, 10:40 AM
I can't remember the last time I was in a grocery store, that's what a wife is for, she doesn't mow the yard, put gas in her car or wash it, I don't do the shopping. It's worked well for 35 years, why change it.

Man-Goblin
07-09-2011, 10:42 AM
I generally like to have someone ring me up. It's quicker.

But the self checkout is nice if I'm buying something somewhat embarassing like rubbers, KY, handcuffs, leather chaps, black candles or buttermilk.

Miss I.
07-09-2011, 10:48 AM
I generally like to have someone ring me up. It's quicker.

But the self checkout is nice if I'm buying something somewhat embarassing like rubbers, KY, handcuffs, leather chaps, black candles or buttermilk.

Why is that embarrassing? oh wait, yeah buttermilk is a little weird. :curtsey:

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-09-2011, 10:58 AM
The Albertson's in Wash Park (Alameda and Broadway) got rid of these about a year ago, at least. It's the closest store to my house, so I see the manager all the time, and I asked him why.

Apparently the self-checkout lanes they use break down all the time, leading to huge backups and really bad customer service, which is why that store got rid of them. Not sure if the "more personal contact" bit is just lip service. Kinda sounds like it is.

Boobs McGee
07-09-2011, 12:24 PM
The Albertson's in Wash Park (Alameda and Broadway) got rid of these about a year ago, at least. It's the closest store to my house, so I see the manager all the time, and I asked him why.

Apparently the self-checkout lanes they use break down all the time, leading to huge backups and really bad customer service, which is why that store got rid of them. Not sure if the "more personal contact" bit is just lip service. Kinda sounds like it is.

that's reall interesting actually, because the albertsons I USED to shop at in littleton had problems all the time with their machines. The King Soopers down on Colorado where I shop now never seems to have any problems, and neither do the ones at the Safeway down the street. Those are owned by Kroger and Safeway, respectively. I wonder if the Albertsons chain (owned by super valu I think?) just bought cheaper machines?

DHallblows
07-09-2011, 12:30 PM
that's reall interesting actually, because the albertsons I USED to shop at in littleton had problems all the time with their machines. The King Soopers down on Colorado where I shop now never seems to have any problems, and neither do the ones at the Safeway down the street. Those are owned by Kroger and Safeway, respectively. I wonder if the Albertsons chain (owned by super valu I think?) just bought cheaper machines?

I'm telling you, Albertsons is for poor people

Meck77
07-09-2011, 12:37 PM
All joking aside. If you live in the metro area try rancho loborio grocery at Colfax and peoria. It's basically a whole foods Mexican style at 1/3 the prices.

Boobs McGee
07-09-2011, 02:22 PM
will be going there tomorrow, thanks for the recommendation!

broncocalijohn
07-09-2011, 02:32 PM
I'll use them if they are open and I'm getting a few items.

Otherwise, I make those pimple and lazy-eyed faces earn their $7.25 an hour.

Dude, unless you are going to a mom and pop store, those checkers that work so hard to take a can of corn and slide it across the scanner for the price is making at least $17. Unions have decided this is a career and should be paid accordingly. I use self checkouts when I know I can do it lickity split and be out of their in moments. I think checkers hate it because it shows that the normal being with two feet, at least one hand and a wallet can do at least 85% of their work. Albertsons think we want to communicate with their checkers? How can we do that when we are rudely talking on our cell phones? :thumbs:

broncocalijohn
07-09-2011, 02:41 PM
I used to use them, but then I stopped because jobs are hard to come by and this is putting some kid out of work somewhere. I generally grocery shop late at night anyways, so I'm in and I'm out in record time regardless.
I knew Hogan would have an opinion like this. So Ray, do you still buy horse buggies instead of cars so someone still has a job? Face it, technology brings jobs but also the end result can lose jobs. It is the way we improve life. Thank God the Unions were unsuccessful at having their painters use rolls instead of the spray gun. That cost jobs too.

broncosteven
07-09-2011, 03:04 PM
My main reason for preferring the self-checkout is that then I don't have to talk to the checkers. I'm at the store to buy stuff, not to chit chat or answer their inane "do you need any help out with that?" questions.

Maybe that is the other reason for my apathy, I have nerve damage and need help getting heavy stuff loaded on the cart then out to the car, it is kinda demoralizing but It is not my fault some idiot plowed into me.

Popps
07-09-2011, 03:28 PM
Just scan the forums, see if there's football threads, then move along. Would this place be more enjoyable if there were dead threads sitting on the main board from the draft?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Coz_cpLaGSw/S9bCDcgoqBI/AAAAAAAABCQ/4njcguAZHY4/s1600/serious+business.jpg

KipCorrington25
07-09-2011, 03:41 PM
Albertsons wants more face to face with me? No thanks, I use the self checker to avoid face to face with you so I'll go elsewhere!

Actually problem soleved, Albersons failed in Denver.

Cmac821
07-09-2011, 03:48 PM
Don't care for them at all. Seems like every other time I use them the sensor in the bagger acts up. Please place item in bag... (I place the 6 pack of razors in the bag)... Please place item in bag... (I take the item out and put it back in this time with a little added pressure)... Please wait for attendant. SCHIT!!!!!!

Hilarious! happens every time I use one

broncocalijohn
07-09-2011, 04:27 PM
God,

Please let football start soon.


Yours,

Popps

I hear you man. At least this link is football talk.
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=87093&page=156&highlight

We can use some football discussion by you (and others).

epicSocialism4tw
07-09-2011, 04:39 PM
I use them all the time.

And if there are people waiting behind me in line I stand there and try to scan my butt over and over until the helper person comes over. Then I share with them how incredibly hilarious it is to scan your butt. If they don't agree, I make them watch as I do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and...

Meck77
07-09-2011, 04:45 PM
will be going there tomorrow, thanks for the recommendation!

It's actually on Havana and colfax.

You will be shocked at the amount of fresh produce. Tons of fresh baked goods, meats, seafood etc.

80smith
07-09-2011, 05:55 PM
I like both, as long as I can get in and out ASAP! With 2 kids there is nothing worse than waiting. So I'll use the self checkout anytime! But what line I do not like is the Menards checkout! That is the worst checkout line I have ever seen. Talking about not connecting with the customer!!!!!

spdirty
07-09-2011, 09:06 PM
Love the self checkout. Hardly ever have to wait in line at the stores that have em. Unless, like previously posted, I get behind someone like my dad who is scared ****less of them.

broncosteven
07-09-2011, 10:23 PM
I like both, as long as I can get in and out ASAP! With 2 kids there is nothing worse than waiting. So I'll use the self checkout anytime! But what line I do not like is the Menards checkout! That is the worst checkout line I have ever seen. Talking about not connecting with the customer!!!!!

I am glad I don't have to go there much, we were there Friday and it was more depressing than Walmart plus Lowes was cheaper on a lot of stuff. We are remodeling the master bath so we hit all 3 big box stores and found nothing worth buying at Menards.