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MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:59 PM
In YOUR words:

That doesn't even address the question you numbskull.. Tebow was running a lot in each of his games..

What I said has absolutely no bearing on the issue..

I never mentioned YPC which is what you all are pointing to...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 04:01 PM
Project Much Rev?

Rev.. your bullying reeks of insecurity.. probably why you would join a club.. be part of a group.. be a follower..

You are especially disgruntled now because I have exposed you for what you are..

Lol, yup you caught me, Mr Tinfoil Hat!'

So let me get this straight...

According to you, I'm part of a group that controls the entire planet, but I'm an insecure bully?

Sounds legit man.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 04:02 PM
THE SEC

Just want to define what is being talked about.. some people who can't hang like to pretend one thing is being talked about and not another..

Why doesn't Texas and OU want to join the SEC? Because they would be exposed and would not be special at all.. it would make it much harder for them to compete for a championship..

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 04:03 PM
Lol, yup you caught me, Mr Tinfoil Hat!'

So let me get this straight...

According to you, I'm part of a group that controls the entire planet, but I'm an insecure bully?

Sounds legit man.

It makes perfect sense.. why ELSE would someone join a group like that... wow.. you are so far gone it is scary..

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 04:05 PM
That doesn't even address the question you numbskull.. Tebow was running a lot in each of his games..

What I said has absolutely no bearing on the issue..

I never mentioned YPC which is what you all are pointing to...

More evidence you have no background knowledge of what you profess because...

...no he wasnt.

In his 3 NFL starts, he averaged rushing 10x per game.

In his 3 seasons as a collegiate starter, he averaged rushing 15x per game.

And once again, here's what you said about # of carries:

If a QB runs more per game their YPC is likely to go down.. if a QB runs less their YPC is likely to go up..

That was EXACTLY how Orton had a better YPC than Tebow and many of the Broncos runningbacks last season in games..

By that logic Orton is a better running QB than Tebow..

ULTIMATE FAIL.

Summary: Thread title is accurate

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 04:06 PM
It makes perfect sense.. why ELSE would someone join a group like that... wow.. you are so far gone it is scary..

I promise, joining a "group like that" is something you'll NEVER have to worry about Ha!

epicSocialism4tw
07-11-2011, 04:09 PM
THE SEC

BLASPHEMY! Ha!

oubronco
07-11-2011, 04:14 PM
Do you realize you are supporting my argument.. Tebow was the most decorated college player ever and he was on the bench behind Kyle Freakin Orton all year.. and now people realize the error in that thinking... The same is true of all SEC players coming out of college.. they are undervalued the exact same way.. and likely suffer for it just the same.\

There is also the other side of it where SEC players are drafted high and have to go to terrible teams and suffer the fate of that...

So again.. the results don't mean much.. you would have to really examine each case.

Or maybe just maybe they aren't as good as you think and as far as Tebow is concerned he had a very loaded team surrounding him, he didn't do it all by himself

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 04:19 PM
More evidence you have no background knowledge of what you profess because...

...no he wasnt.

In his 3 NFL starts, he averaged rushing 10x per game.

In his 3 seasons as a collegiate starter, he averaged rushing 15x per game.

And once again, here's what you said about # of carries:



Summary: Thread title is accurate

This isn't a valid answer.. because he had a significant amount of rushes per game in both sets of games.. not like an Orton who ran once every blue moon...

It isn't as if teams didn't know Tebow was going to run in the NFL.. that is preposterous.. and it isn't as if the NFL wasn't prepared for the wildcat..

So again.. OWNED.. You have no argument..

Though I am sure you and your cronies will continue to believe any BS argument you put up is total ownage and embarrassing me... more DELUSIONS.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 04:21 PM
Or maybe just maybe they aren't as good as you think and as far as Tebow is concerned he had a very loaded team surrounding him, he didn't do it all by himself

Yeah.. that was what they said and then a guy who was supposed to be a better NFL prospect than Tebow in John Brantley was a complete disaster for Florida when Tebow left..

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 04:23 PM
I promise, joining a "group like that" is something you'll NEVER have to worry about Ha!

Yeah.. I can see their standards are really high by your behavior here.. bwhaha

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 04:31 PM
Alex Smith ruined Tebow's draft status. That's a fact.

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 04:31 PM
This isn't a valid answer.. because he had a significant amount of rushes per game in both sets of games.. not like an Orton who ran once every blue moon...

It isn't as if teams didn't know Tebow was going to run in the NFL.. that is preposterous.. and it isn't as if the NFL wasn't prepared for the wildcat..

So again.. OWNED.. You have no argument..

Though I am sure you and your cronies will continue to believe any BS argument you put up is total ownage and embarrassingme... more DELUSIONS.


So if you're the only one that thinks you're winning an argument, does that mean you are winning the argument?

Me no think so.

Do you like to dance? I mean you must LOVE to dance.........cause you sure are dancing around in this thread like you're trying out for dancing with the stars.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 04:31 PM
Or maybe just maybe they aren't as good as you think and as far as Tebow is concerned he had a very loaded team surrounding him, he didn't do it all by himself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Florida_Gators_football_team#Depth_chart

2 first round picks on the OL and another 2nd round pick on the OL (want to compare that with where Bradford's OL was selected with 1 first rounder in Trent Williams?)

His entire receiving corp was drafted: A first round pick at WR, a 4th round pick at receiver, a 5th round pick at WR and a 4th round pick at TE, and all are showing some pretty good signs of success without Tim.

And that's just the offensive supporting cast...

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 04:31 PM
Alex Smith ruined Tebow's draft status. That's a fact.

No no no. It was the medias fault, well atleast some of it.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 04:32 PM
This isn't a valid answer.. because he had a significant amount of rushes per game in both sets of games.. not like an Orton who ran once every blue moon...

It isn't as if teams didn't know Tebow was going to run in the NFL.. that is preposterous.. and it isn't as if the NFL wasn't prepared for the wildcat..

So again.. OWNED.. You have no argument..

Though I am sure you and your cronies will continue to believe any BS argument you put up is total ownage and embarrassing me... more DELUSIONS.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

epicSocialism4tw
07-11-2011, 04:32 PM
Alex Smith ruined Tebow's draft status. That's a fact.

I'm beginning to think that MacGruber ruined Tebow's draft status.

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 04:35 PM
So again.. OWNED.. You have no argument..

Though I am sure you and your cronies will continue to believe any BS argument you put up is total ownage and embarrassing me... more DELUSIONS.


He used your very own argument against you and you still dance around.


Dude, I don't even like Rev a whole lot(not that it hurts his feelings) but he is making you look pretty stupid.

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 04:35 PM
I'm beginning to think that MacGruber ruined Tebow's draft status.

I'm sure he can find a video of someone who use to work for the governement that has proof of this too.:giggle:

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 04:36 PM
He used your very own argument against you and you still dance around.


Dude, I don't even like Rev a whole lot(not that it hurts his feelings) but he is making you look pretty stupid.

Correction: He is making himself look pretty stupid.

And I love you too, jerk.

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 04:37 PM
Correction: He is making himself look pretty stupid.

And I love you too, jerk.

Well I stand corrected.;D

And love is such a strong word.:cowgirl:

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 04:38 PM
Alex Smith ruined Tebow's draft status. That's a fact.

It sure did.. because these people can't think for their self. They just want to categorize everything

"this person looks like so-and-so" He must be the same player..

Plus Alex Smith never would have been so successful against tougher competition... so when he fails they don;'t consider this when evaluating Tebow...

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 04:39 PM
I'm sure he can find a video of someone who use to work for the governement that has proof of this too.:giggle:

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/l1QI4P0YqtM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 04:41 PM
He used your very own argument against you and you still dance around.


Dude, I don't even like Rev a whole lot(not that it hurts his feelings) but he is making you look pretty stupid.

You might have a point if my argument applied to that situation...

It doesn't...

Comparing Orton's rushes to a true running QB is retarded.. which is the point..

I also think it's hilarious you think him using my argument is pro for him.. he can't generate his own argument.. which is the point. All through this thread he has been unable to.

He takes a stance with absolutely no rationale backin it up. Which me reminds me of someone joining a group when he doesn't even know what tehy are about... or attacking someone when he doesn't even know what their argument is or his own position...

Sometimes I wonder if the Freemasons are a way of ATTACKING THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO BLINDLY JOIN RELIGIONS OR CULTS.. maybe they use these people for their own purposes...

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 04:53 PM
You might have a point if my argument applied to that situation...

It doesn't...

Comparing Orton's rushes to a true running QB is retarded.. which is the point..


Oh my, you are stupid. Rev even highlighted the part of your argument in his post to you. It went something like this. If a QB runs more per game their YPC is likely to go down.. if a QB runs less their YPC is likely to go up..


Nowhere does that compare Tebow and Orton.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 05:01 PM
Oh my, you are stupid. Rev even highlighted the part of your argument in his post to you. It went something like this. If a QB runs more per game their YPC is likely to go down.. if a QB runs less their YPC is likely to go up..


Nowhere does that compare Tebow and Orton.

My argument.. LOL

The Rev highlighted MY argument.. you mean he had no argument of his own?

You are illustrating my point for me.

I was talking about extreme situations..

The difference between 10-15 is not extreme.. both are high numbers for running QBs..

So again.. the argument is not relevant to the point he is trying to make...

Try again team defect...

At least we have finally determined that the Rev has no argument of his own.. he can't deny that any longer. Thank you both.

Cito Pelon
07-11-2011, 05:10 PM
"A fool climbs a ladder one rung at a time." Confucius

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 05:17 PM
I like how he says Russell was a bust only because of his work ethic and not because lack of talent and at the same time is upset that some people thought Ryan Leaf should have been the first pick over Manning, which in his mind made Manning underrated. Ryan Leaf was very talented he just had zero work ethic just like Russell.

Hell if Russell would have been in the same draft as Manning I bet we would have heard arguments on why Russell should be picked number one over all and not Manning.

Boobs McGee
07-11-2011, 05:22 PM
Holy **** dude. Your obsession for the rev and his "group" is seriously comedic. Are you feeling left out? For as much as you love preaching about being a unique, original entity, you sure love pining for a love apparently lost.

As for your football "discussion"... I can safely say your inability to admit defeat has surpassed the likes of the llama and lostknight ( or was it jhns?) in NBA threads similar to this. I believe we have our new orangemane champion of obtusity. Congratulations!

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 05:22 PM
That is not what I said.

FAIL again

Forget which person you were logged in as??

Boobs McGee
07-11-2011, 05:23 PM
That is not what I said.

FAIL again

Wait wait, so YOU'RE macgruber?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 05:23 PM
I like how he says Russell was a bust only because of his work ethic and not because lack of talent and at the same time is upset that some people thought Ryan Leaf should have been the first pick over Manning, which in his mind made Manning underrated. Ryan Leaf was very talented he just had zero work ethic just like Russell.

Hell if Russell would have been in the same draft as Manning I bet we would have heard arguments on why Russell should be picked number one over all and not Manning.

Did Leaf turn into a fat ass? No.. Leaf might not have been Tebow or Manning in terms of work ethic but he sure as hell isn't Jamarus.. Jamarucus just went on vacation after entering the NFL. His coaches said he would binge eat! LOL

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 05:25 PM
Wait wait, so YOU'RE macgruber?

Boom goes the dynamite.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 05:25 PM
Holy **** dude. Your obsession for the rev and his "group" is seriously comedic. Are you feeling left out? For as much as you love preaching about being a unique, original entity, you sure love pining for a love apparently lost.

As for your football "discussion"... I can safely say your inability to admit defeat has surpassed the likes of the llama and lostknight ( or was it jhns?) in NBA threads similar to this. I believe we have our new orangemane champion of obtusity. Congratulations!

Now that's ironic..

These tools can't even address MY argument and you claim I lost it? LOL

The things you all say are so absurd they are comical..

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 05:27 PM
Wait wait, so YOU'RE macgruber?

Nice witch hunt..

Now there's a shocker.. these guys on a witch hunt.. who would have guessed that...

And people wonder how the Nazi's got started...

Boobs McGee
07-11-2011, 05:27 PM
Boom goes the dynamite.

Uhh ....I'm actually kind of embarrassed for him right now. He used to be one of my favorite posters :( sad day

oubronco
07-11-2011, 05:30 PM
Forget which person you were logged in as??

Hilarious!

bowtown
07-11-2011, 05:35 PM
Oops.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 05:43 PM
Uhh ....I'm actually kind of embarrassed for him right now. He used to be one of my favorite posters :( sad day

Don't worry the mistake is easily explained away....

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1663/bajaracingnewsbajaweath.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/bajaracingnewsbajaweath.jpg/)

What we see here is the US government hacking into Baja computer.

Dagmar
07-11-2011, 05:49 PM
baja outs himself in spectacular fashion!

http://www.tinygif.com/data/media/8/oh_damn.gif

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 05:51 PM
Are you guys going to make us wear stars of David now? Or see if we sink or float?

Cmac821
07-11-2011, 05:53 PM
I'm here to see this "outing" which page?

Dagmar
07-11-2011, 05:54 PM
I'm here to see this "outing" which page?

Previous page.

Cmac821
07-11-2011, 05:59 PM
Previous page.

:thumbs: Thanks, that is great and very obvious outing :rofl:

oubronco
07-11-2011, 06:01 PM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlz8jiO4Jpq0I2A7qcP5zWX-j9502YdTR-Krf1iNid4YFRJPCs&t=1

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 06:06 PM
Witch hunt?:rofl:
You forgot to switch your login. You did the same thing with your Josh McDaniels handle. You got busted.

It's funny because people are so paranoid and about the wrong things.. it has to be by design.. why would people spend all their time on trivial things and ignore the big issues?

Broncobiv
07-11-2011, 06:10 PM
It's funny because people are so paranoid and about the wrong things.. it has to be by design.. why would people spend all their time on trivial things and ignore the big issues?
Oh, so YOU'RE the leader of Team Deflect, too?

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 06:27 PM
That is not what I said.

FAIL again

Well, well, well. Look who MacGruber is? Part of me says way to go on pushing some buttons here but the biggest part says, "ASSHOLE!"

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 06:30 PM
It's funny because people are so paranoid and about the wrong things.. it has to be by design.. why would people spend all their time on trivial things and ignore the big issues?

Like Aspartame thread, unsafe USA vs Mexico thread, Raw milk thread, etc.? Dude, you got nailed and not sure what the penalties here for that are but I think if TJ (or any mod) had the gonads, you would be on a nice and safe aspartame free vacation in sunny Mexico.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 06:32 PM
Like Aspartame thread, unsafe USA vs Mexico thread, etc.? Dude, you got nailed and not sure what the penalties here for that are but I think if TJ (or any mod) had the gonads, you would be on a nice and safe aspartame free vacation in sunny Mexico.

+1

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Oh, The Rev is either going to be ecstatic for finding out the truth or pissed Baja got under his skin with the pseudo username.

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 06:51 PM
Forget which person you were logged in as??

Bahahahaha, busted.


It makes me feel kinda good knowing it was my post that caused Baja to mess up like this.


*Doing the happy dance*

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 06:52 PM
Nice thread title change.


My hunch is that Baja is currently in PMs with one of the Mods to have this thread deleted to help save what little face he probably doesn't have left.

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 06:56 PM
Well, here is his times posting you be the judge (and you probably wont find him here). BOLD IS MACGRUBER TIME
BAJA 7/11 MacGuber 7/11
4:39 5:06
4:26 Raw milk thread 4:51 to 4:27
4:21 4:25
2:33 Slurpee thread 4:23 to 4:01
9:55 3:41 to 2:36
9:53 2:32/2:30
9:44 .....9:57
9:56
9:49
9:46
9:42
9:35
9:33
9:28

Not one time matches up. He must do some serious log on and log off as you can see the posts are one or two minutes apart from each other and typing takes time too.
9:41
BAJA 7/10 MacGruber 7/10
9:49 11:55 -10:52
9:35 9:35 (first post that matches time)
8:41 9:04
7:13 8:20
7:11 8:18
6:44 6:28 to 6:09
6:22 3:45
6:16 3:28
4:53 3:13
3:01 2:52

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 06:56 PM
Man I have owned you guys bad.. You are so incredibly desperate it's unbelievable..

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 07:04 PM
I think it is best for Baja to come back and just state he was trying to piss off TheRev and anyone else. If he really believes in what he typed, he should stick to anti gravity and conspiracy theorist.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 07:10 PM
How so? You admit you're baja right?

No.. that you have to hope I have an alias because you can't hang in an argument. Listen to yourselves...

Tombstone RJ
07-11-2011, 07:15 PM
the fail is strong in this thread...

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 07:17 PM
Very strong indeed.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 07:17 PM
You know what is bizarre? All the people blindly following TheRev are claiming that me and Baja are one and the same...

Pretty ironic.. and telling IMO...

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 07:20 PM
No.. that you have to hope I have an alias because you can't hang in an argument. Listen to yourselves...

Baja is the one pretending to be you. That doesn't make you the least upset?

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 07:21 PM
You know what is bizarre? All the people blindly following TheRev are claiming that me and Baja are one and the same...

Pretty ironic.. and telling IMO...

Wiener it's OK just say it's your package and get over it.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 07:25 PM
Baja is the one pretending to be you. That doesn't make you the least upset?

That's my point.. you are claiming that Baja is pretending to be me by making some similar comment.. yet you guys are mirror images of TheRev in every way.. which is more unlikely.. Baja making some offhand comment that sounded the same as me.. or multiple people acting exactly like TheRev... then claiming others are suspicious..

No wonder you are playing dumb right now..

Steve Prefontaine
07-11-2011, 07:25 PM
That is not what I said.

FAIL again

Holy

Mother

****ing

****

OM Dramabomb!

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 07:26 PM
Yes. You.

I would rather be bizarre than a boring mindless follower...

Tombstone RJ
07-11-2011, 07:26 PM
I hear Myrtle Beach is nice this time of year...

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 07:30 PM
I would rather be bizarre than a boring mindless follower...

You would think that closing this account or at least hiding out for awhile would be the smart move. Smart move? Haven't seen that from Baja's alter ego. Baja ****ed up and had nothing to do with TheRev or any other poster. Keep playing it off Baja but you were caught and pretty much verified.

Jay3
07-11-2011, 07:38 PM
He's not baja.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 07:48 PM
He's not baja.

Careful Jay.. they are going to claim you are me.. that's what happens when you try to talk sense into a mindless mob!

HAT
07-11-2011, 07:49 PM
He's not baja.

Concur.

If you follow the chain of events.....MacGuano had already responded to GB16's thread. (The same one that baja quoted, when baja answered.."That's not what I said")

I think the crazy old coot just got confused and thought GB16 was talking to him when GB16 was actually talking to MacGuano.

DivineBronco
07-11-2011, 07:50 PM
all are baja......rabbit hole time

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 07:52 PM
Why the **** would baja post as tho he was macgruder?

Odds are Jay3 is one of his names as well. I mean they did agree with each other. :rofl:

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 07:55 PM
Concur.

If you follow the chain of events.....MacGuano had already responded to GB16's thread. (The same one that baja quoted, when baja answered.."That's not what I said")

I think the crazy old coot just got confused and thought GB16 was talking to him when GB16 was actually talking to MacGuano.

The quote of "Fail again" smells of MacGruber. Unless you can post and tie it in with Fail Again, it is him. I also put the times when they both posted and that seems way to coincedence. I am going with Baja is MacGruber.

BAJA'S last post before the "Fail Again" post? 9:53 AM.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 07:57 PM
The quote of "Fail again" smells of MacGruber. Unless you can post and tie it in with Fail Again, it is him. I also put the times when they both posted and that seems way to coincedence. I am going with Baja is MacGruber.

Then you just failed the IQ test - again

DHallblows
07-11-2011, 08:00 PM
http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/whats-going-on-in-this-thread.jpg

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 08:01 PM
Then you just failed the IQ test - again

keep on fighting.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 08:03 PM
keep on fighting.

Keep believing...

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 08:03 PM
That's my point.. you are claiming that Baja is pretending to be me by making some similar comment.. yet you guys are mirror images of TheRev in every way.. which is more unlikely.. Baja making some offhand comment that sounded the same as me.. or multiple people acting exactly like TheRev... then claiming others are suspicious..

No wonder you are playing dumb right now..

I'm not claiming anything. With the way the events happend, I'm saying you two are one in the same.

It isn't any more foolish to think this than it is to think some of the backassward stuff you spout off here on a daily basis is true.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 08:07 PM
I think all these guys are TheRev.. The rev was the one saying me and Baja were the same well before this. TheRev also disappeared for a couple days and someone else took his place with mindless attacks.. Now a new crew has appeared. Or maybe it's just his Freemason Cronies haha

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 08:07 PM
Keep believing...

I will. :thumbs:

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 08:10 PM
I think all these guys are TheRev.. The rev was the one saying me and Baja were the same well before this. TheRev also disappeared for a couple days and someone else took his place with mindless attacks.. Now a new crew has appeared. Or maybe it's just his Freemason Cronies haha

Maybe you should do a video up on it.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 08:10 PM
I think all these guys are TheRev.. The rev was the one saying me and Baja were the same well before this. TheRev also disappeared for a couple days and someone else took his place with mindless attacks.. Now a new crew has appeared. Or maybe it's just his Freemason Cronies haha

Which ones? Most of ones posting that you are Baja were here before TheRev. :rofl:

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 08:11 PM
ISP checks all around. I'm down with that.

DO IT!!!

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 08:14 PM
Which ones? Most of ones posting that you are Baja were here before TheRev. :rofl:

Pay dirt! Look how guilty he sounds there.. try to act nonchalant.. Busted. this totally sounds like something theRev would do.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 08:15 PM
ISP checks all around. I'm down with that.


Sure you are Rev.. because you are using multiple computers with anonymous IP proxies I am sure..

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 08:16 PM
Maybe you should do a video up on it.

Look how Random all your avatars are too..

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 08:19 PM
Mac was the one using "FAiL", so "FAIL AGAIN" would come out of left-field. Baja hadn't posted in 200 posts, even he could not get that confused.

Just word searched this thread and the word "FAIL" was used once by Tombstone, Bowtown and Oabb (OABB not in the same text as the others). How many times did MacGruber use the word "FAIL"? 9 times! Add Baja using it once too. I am going with Baja and MacGruber the same person... again. More evidence. At least we got off the bat crazy part of him and his SEC can do no wrong type posts.

Blueflame
07-11-2011, 08:21 PM
The IP addresses for Baja and for MacGruder do not match. FWIW.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 08:24 PM
How do you know that all the people who have ever used the word fail on this site aren't actually me?

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 08:28 PM
Fail is used on this site but in this thread, you used it extremely more than all combined! You 9 times and two others (OABB did not use it in the same way as you and others) once each. Baja used it once (thinking he was logged in as you). Too much points to you and him as the same person.

Blueflame
07-11-2011, 08:29 PM
Yeah, I think he just explained that.

Whatever. The IP evidence supports a conclusion that they are two different posters.

oubronco
07-11-2011, 08:30 PM
Conspiracy I say

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 08:39 PM
Whatever. The IP evidence supports a conclusion that they are two different posters.

Foxyproxy.

HAT
07-11-2011, 08:48 PM
Whatever. The IP evidence supports a conclusion that they are two different posters.

Not by any stretch of the imagination.....Regardless, I don't think they are the same poster.

Cut from the same wack job cloth, absolutely......

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 09:33 PM
Forget which person you were logged in as??

Owned

Why would you ****ing troll on the Internet with a second username. Talk about trivial, that's the definition.

He's trolling on the internet on a second username because I have "baja" on ignore. Look at the threads... they have the same crazy take on everything. He's really done this just so he can make another push for my attention.

I feel even sadder for that pathetic old man than I ever have before...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 09:35 PM
I think it is best for Baja to come back and just state he was trying to piss off TheRev and anyone else. If he really believes in what he typed, he should stick to anti gravity and conspiracy theorist.

...he does believe it.

Baja even admits to believing people can survive off ****ing sunlight and no food/water...

And you'll notice baja was the only one being nice to himself in this thread... it's hysterically pathetic.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 09:36 PM
That's my point.. you are claiming that Baja is pretending to be me by making some similar comment.. yet you guys are mirror images of TheRev in every way.. which is more unlikely.. Baja making some offhand comment that sounded the same as me.. or multiple people acting exactly like TheRev... then claiming others are suspicious..

No wonder you are playing dumb right now..

Ron Dayne is facing palming how terrible this spin move is...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 09:40 PM
Whatever. The IP evidence supports a conclusion that they are two different posters.

...and you absolutely have no preexisting bias in this potential scandal, right?

:rofl:

Maybe you should delete this thread since it's baja being made fun of again?

...Or did you just lock the last one? Refresh my memory?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 09:42 PM
Notice how all the weird TheRev supporters disappeared and now TheRev is back.. And claiming aliases again...

MagicHef
07-11-2011, 09:46 PM
I think everyone on this site is baja, including myself.

HAT
07-11-2011, 09:49 PM
Notice how all the weird TheRev supporters disappeared and now TheRev is back.. And claiming aliases again...

Look bro....Just because I ate a lobster once doesn't mean I'm Rev.

Actually.....MacGuano/Baja may have just given us a solid clue here. Someone go back and see if bajalito refers to Rev as 'TheRev'.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 09:53 PM
Look bro....Just because I ate a lobster once doesn't mean I'm Rev.

Actually.....MacGuano/Baja may have just given us a solid clue here. Someone go back and see if bajalito refers to Rev as 'TheRev'.

Yup.

And he refers to me as having "cronies" etc.

For years.

Jig's up.

Know what's funny? I honestly didn't think I could pity a human being more than I did baja when I put him on ignore... but today marks a new era.

Boobs McGee
07-11-2011, 09:53 PM
Honestly man, just take a break. This is going from bad to worse in a hurry

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:03 PM
Yup.

And he refers to me as having "cronies" etc.

For years.

Jig's up.

Know what's funny? I honestly didn't think I could pity a human being more than I did baja when I put him on ignore... but today marks a new era.

It sounds like YOUR jig is up.. you are the one with the "Cronies for years"... I wondered why people were copying your actions like you are some messiah.. They ARE you...

What else would a petty person like this do with their time.. He is the one that started this nonsense in this thread in the first place as well.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 10:10 PM
It sounds like YOUR jig is up.. you are the one with the "Cronies for years"... I wondered why people were copying your actions like you are some messiah.. They ARE you...

What else would a petty person like this do with their time.. He is the one that started this nonsense in this thread in the first place as well.

Ive been turning steal into dust way before TheReve was born.

IHaveALight
07-11-2011, 10:10 PM
That does it. Time to get the TSA involved in monitoring mane members.
Everyone prepare to get raped every time you log on.

HAT
07-11-2011, 10:12 PM
That does it. Time to get the TSA involved in monitoring mane members.
Everyone prepare to get raped every time you log on.

dragster's been doing that for years. ;D

Blueflame
07-11-2011, 10:13 PM
...and you absolutely have no preexisting bias in this potential scandal, right?

:rofl:

Maybe you should delete this thread since it's baja being made fun of again?

...Or did you just lock the last one? Refresh my memory?

Baja hasn't asked for... nor does he need... my assistance. And no, I have no bias whatsoever regarding this thread. One would have to have an opinion one way or the other before forming bias and I simply don't care. People will believe what they will.

Although I do acknowledge having a mental image of a naked guy with a stalk of celery up his butt whenever I see the username "MacGruber"...

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 10:14 PM
The IP addresses for Baja and for MacGruder do not match. FWIW.

It doesn't mean much actually. FWIW

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 10:15 PM
Baja hasn't asked for... nor does he need... my assistance. And no, I have no bias whatsoever regarding this thread. One would have to have an opinion one way or the other before forming bias and I simply don't care. People will believe what they will.

You sure it wasn't Baja under one of his other names? hmmmmmm;D

HAT
07-11-2011, 10:20 PM
Although I do acknowledge having a mental image of a naked guy with a stalk of celery up his butt whenever I see the username "MacGruber"...

BRB.....Off to the name change thread. !Booya!

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 10:25 PM
BRB.....Off to the name change thread. !Booya!

Please tell me she didn't change the thread.

Blueflame
07-11-2011, 10:26 PM
http://crunchbang.org/uploads/102307110452-beaker.jpg

You didn't see that movie? ;D At any rate, it makes it damn near impossible to take anything MacGruber posts seriously...

Dagmar
07-11-2011, 10:29 PM
900 freaking posts. Little did I know when I started this thread...

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 10:30 PM
Yup.

And he refers to me as having "cronies" etc.

For years.

Jig's up.

Know what's funny? I honestly didn't think I could pity a human being more than I did baja when I put him on ignore... but today marks a new era.

You are me since I was here first. ;D

Blueflame
07-11-2011, 10:31 PM
I did. Apparently it has been successfully blocked from my memory.

Some things (like naked guys with celery in their butts) can't be "unseen"... LOL

HAT
07-11-2011, 10:31 PM
Please tell me she didn't change the thread.

Haha....No, I meant the "Who changed their username thread".

HAT
07-11-2011, 10:33 PM
900 freaking posts. Little did I know when I started this thread...

Post more Rusty.....Post more!

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 10:39 PM
It sounds like YOUR jig is up.. you are the one with the "Cronies for years"... I wondered why people were copying your actions like you are some messiah.. They ARE you...

What else would a petty person like this do with their time.. He is the one that started this nonsense in this thread in the first place as well.

You have been here since Jan. of 2011 yet you can make that comment bolded?

That does it. Time to get the TSA involved in monitoring mane members.
Everyone prepare to get raped every time you log on.

Well they will have no problem cavity searching a 95 year old Baja.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:39 PM
Baja hasn't asked for... nor does he need... my assistance. And no, I have no bias whatsoever regarding this thread. One would have to have an opinion one way or the other before forming bias and I simply don't care. People will believe what they will.

Although I do acknowledge having a mental image of a naked guy with a stalk of celery up his butt whenever I see the username "MacGruber"...

Imagine it as John Gruden with the celery.. in one of his QB interrogation sessions... even better...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:40 PM
You have been here since Jan. of 2011 yet you can make that comment bolded?

He just said it... and I experienced the cronies first hand..

HAT
07-11-2011, 10:41 PM
You are me since I was here first. ;D

That's not what I said!!!!

HAT
07-11-2011, 10:46 PM
Well they will have no problem cavity searching a 95 year old Baja.

Yeah but....Will he bump his "What age were you when you had your best sex ever" thread after said cavity search?

I can see it now......."I'm 95 and thanks to a lifelong diet low in preservatives & aspartame, it was awesome!"

Archer81
07-11-2011, 10:54 PM
Yeah but....Will he bump his "What age were you when you had your best sex ever" thread after said cavity search?

I can see it now......."I'm 95 and thanks to a lifelong diet low in preservatives & aspartame, it was awesome!"


and nettie pots...


:Broncos:

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 11:11 PM
That's not what I said!!!! damn you for being first.

OABB
07-11-2011, 11:35 PM
Hof thread...

That One Guy
07-12-2011, 01:12 AM
After much too long spent looking into it (and wanting it to be true), I have to think Baja was just off his rocker. I don't think they're the same. If they are, he's putting more effort into it than I would've ever expected and he deserves to get away with it.

Cito Pelon
07-12-2011, 01:33 AM
He's not baja.

Of course MacGruder isn't baja.

But it's interesting to see who sucks Rev off.

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 02:11 AM
Of course MacGruder isn't baja.

But it's interesting to see who sucks Rev off.

Big fan of watching dudes get head are ya?

Cito Pelon
07-12-2011, 02:33 AM
Big fan of watching dudes get head are ya?

Only in a prosecutorially sort of way. Good shot, though.

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 02:34 AM
Only in a prosecutorially sort of way. Good shot, though.

I couldn't let that or this thread go ;D

Cito Pelon
07-12-2011, 02:49 AM
I couldn't let that or this thread go ;D

"A thread lost is often greater than a weevil." Confucius

McDman
07-12-2011, 09:14 AM
So I think Fox likes Tebow.

baja
07-12-2011, 09:27 AM
That is not what I said.

FAIL again

Here is you chance to witness "Herd Mentality" first hand.

Read from the quoted post above to this post you are reading now and you will see a perfect illustration of how "Herd Mentality", given some time, takes on a life of it's own. I especially enjoyed rev's responses. Dude if your head were any bigger you would be unable to drive do to being unable to fit your head behind the wheel.

From a well placed 7 word post the herd mentality became a raging river in a few short posts.

Try thinking for yourselves sometime soon, you'll love the experience.

Baja has another successful fishing trip. Just threw out a naked hook this time and filled the boat.

Are you being duped by in life my very clever people. I think you are ripe for it.....

Blessings,

baja

jhns
07-12-2011, 10:00 AM
Are you being duped by in life my very clever people.

Nice writing skills.

Rabb
07-12-2011, 10:03 AM
I never had (or have for that matter) anything against you baja...but this is pretty sad

Chris
07-12-2011, 10:31 AM
Does the naked hook involve some unzipping baja?

baja
07-12-2011, 10:47 AM
Does the naked hook involve some unzipping baja?

All I had to do was make one short post than could be taken many ways including me slipping up and posting with the wrong account. I knew many here would run with it (especially rev because he make the leap first a few days ago and we all know how very important it is to him to come off as clever ).

The lynch mod took over and I was hung without a shred of real evidence.

You all hung an innocent man, I am not McGruger. LOL

oubronco
07-12-2011, 10:50 AM
All I had to do was make one short post than could be taken many ways including me slipping up and posting with the wrong account. I knew many here would run with it (especially rev because he make the leap first a few days ago and we all know how very important it is to him to come off as clever ).

The lynch mod took over and I was hung without a shred of real evidence.

You all hung an innocent man, I am not McGruger. LOL

What about MacGoober?

worm
07-12-2011, 10:51 AM
All I had to do was make one short post than could be taken many ways including me slipping up and posting with the wrong account. I knew many here would run with it (especially rev because he make the leap first a few days ago and we all know how very important it is to him to come off as clever ).

The lynch mod took over and I was hung without a shred of real evidence.

You all hung an innocent man, I am not McGruger. LOL

So you are saying you are a troll and not a dual personality, nut job conspiracy theorist with horrendous football knowledge?

baja
07-12-2011, 10:52 AM
What about MacGoober?

Oh ya I'm definitely him.

I can't wait till you all find out I am rev too. ;D

baja
07-12-2011, 10:53 AM
So you are saying you are a troll and not a dual personality, nut job conspiracy theorist with horrendous football knowledge?

I am whatever you think I am.










To you...

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 11:02 AM
So you are saying you are a troll and not a dual personality, nut job conspiracy theorist with horrendous football knowledge?

The two are not mutually exclusive for him.

The best part is that his BEST spin for this is that he "intentionally" made us think he was MacGruder... because that makes sense... more of the baja standard of dishonesty and cowardice.

Thank God all senior citizens aren't this stupid and pathetic and that the ones that are have left the country.

baja
07-12-2011, 11:12 AM
The two are not mutually exclusive for him.

The best part is that his BEST spin for this is that he "intentionally" made us think he was MacGruder... because that makes sense... more of the baja standard of dishonesty and cowardice.

Thank God all senior citizens aren't this stupid and pathetic and that the ones that are have left the country.

So funny! It will be impossible for you to admit you were dubbed by your own desire to have guessed right. You will never except the truth, too threatening to your ego.

I'm the stupid guy that planned the whole game of Surviver to get YOU. I begged and borrowed points from other killed players to use against you to snatch victory from you grasp. I knew how important it was to your ego to win Surviver and show all how very clever you are. That's when you hate for me began. You're a trip dude. ;D

baja
07-12-2011, 11:14 AM
It's amusing to watch you build yourself up by attacking others. Pretty mushy ground you are standing on there rev.

My my where has the lynch mob gone? ;D

OABB
07-12-2011, 11:40 AM
It's amusing to watch you build yourself up by attacking others. Pretty mushy ground you are standing on there rev.

My my where has the lynch mob gone? ;D

I think we are sad that you are pretending like this was intentional. It's kind of gross.

GreatBronco16
07-12-2011, 11:44 AM
It's amusing to watch you build yourself up by attacking others. Pretty mushy ground you are standing on there rev.

My my where has the lynch mob gone? ;D


Well I'm at work LMAO at you.

rugbythug
07-12-2011, 11:45 AM
I think he wants tebow to start too.

Hey wait a second did I miss something?

baja
07-12-2011, 11:46 AM
I think we are sad that you are pretending like this was intentional. It's kind of gross.

I am telling you straight out I am not the poster known as McGruger yet you will choose to believe you collectively "discovered" the "truth'.

Interesting stuff.

When the thin veneer of society breaks down this human trate will cause things to become very ugly very fast. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 11:46 AM
And the people who claimed conspiracies don't work just got suckered...

Ironic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD25S5lWCzo

Please watch all parts of this video... to learn about Herd mentality..

alkemical
07-12-2011, 11:48 AM
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/images/Grasshopper.gif

= ZARATHUD'S ENLIGHTENMENT =

Before he became a hermit, Zarathud was a young Priest, and took great delight in making fools of his opponents in front of his followers.

One day Zarathud took his students to a pleasant pasture and there he confronted The Sacred Chao while She was contentedly grazing.

"Tell me, you dumb beast." demanded the Priest in his commanding voice, "why don't you do something worthwhile. What is your Purpose in Life, anyway?"

Munching the tasty grass, The Sacred Chao replied "MU".*

Upon hearing this, absolutely nobody was enlightened. Primarily because nobody could understand Chinese.

* "MU" is the Chinese ideogram for NO-THING

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/images/ContentedCow.gif

jhns
07-12-2011, 11:51 AM
And the people who claimed conspiracies don't work

What exactly does this mean?

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 11:55 AM
What exactly does this mean?

That he's pathetic and still clinging to the "maybe I convinced them I'm not me!" ...but he's too dumb to realize they're even whining about the same thing now with "herd mentality" as "MacGruder" and "baja" have been for a dozen thread pages now.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:00 PM
What exactly does this mean?

It means conspiracies do work.. people are suckers and incredibly easy to fool. It appears Baja just hosed you.. he gave you what you wanted to believe.. and you swallowed it hook line and sinker.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:05 PM
That he's pathetic and still clinging to the "maybe I convinced them I'm not me!" ...but he's too dumb to realize they're even whining about the same thing now with "herd mentality" as "MacGruder" and "baja" have been for a dozen thread pages now.

So if Baja and I can prove that we are not the same person will you admit you were completely owned and you are a completely braindead and have no life and would make an ideal candidate for a Heaven['s Gate style cult?

alkemical
07-12-2011, 12:07 PM
So if Baja and I can prove that we are not the same person will you admit you were completely owned and you are a completely braindead and have no life and would make an ideal candidate for a Heaven['s Gate style cult?

Here's the fact of all this:

there's no proof that you and baja could provide that would make anyone believe any different.

jhns
07-12-2011, 12:10 PM
It means conspiracies do work.. people are suckers and incredibly easy to fool. It appears Baja just hosed you.. he gave you what you wanted to believe.. and you swallowed it hook line and sinker.

Baja hosed me with a conspiracy? Interesting. Can you show me where this happened?

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:12 PM
Baja hosed me with a conspiracy? Interesting. Can you show me where this happened?

If you weren't part of it then you are exempt.. I have seen you following the herd in this thread though..

It was the figurative YOU

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:14 PM
Here's the fact of all this:

there's no proof that you and baja could provide that would make anyone believe any different.

Actually I think there is some way I could provide pretty decent proof we are not the same person...

To reasonable people that is..

OABB
07-12-2011, 12:17 PM
If you weren't part of it then you are exempt.. I have seen you following the herd in this thread though..

It was the figurative YOU

Is it herd mentality when, lets say, someone is incredibly wrong and everyone clearly sees it?

If so, herd mentality has saved this world many times over.

OABB
07-12-2011, 12:19 PM
Actually I think there is some way I could provide pretty decent proof we are not the same person...

To reasonable people that is..

The fact thay baja isnt smart enough to play someone so stupid is enough for me. i think he just typed what he said accidently and now is trying to pretend it was part of some lesson.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:21 PM
Is it herd mentality when, lets say, someone is incredibly wrong and everyone clearly sees it?

If so, herd mentality has saved this world many times over.

No.. because "everyone" is usually wrong.... the majority is usually behind the minority that actually knows what is going on.

Why do you think someone has to be proved right or wrong? Why not just take opinions and consider them...

jhns
07-12-2011, 12:32 PM
If you weren't part of it then you are exempt.. I have seen you following the herd in this thread though..

It was the figurative YOU

What a horrible answer. It is sad that so many lack an education in a country that makes it so easy to get one.

That One Guy
07-12-2011, 12:33 PM
Here is you chance to witness "Herd Mentality" first hand.

Read from the quoted post above to this post you are reading now and you will see a perfect illustration of how "Herd Mentality", given some time, takes on a life of it's own. I especially enjoyed rev's responses. Dude if your head were any bigger you would be unable to drive do to being unable to fit your head behind the wheel.

From a well placed 7 word post the herd mentality became a raging river in a few short posts.

Try thinking for yourselves sometime soon, you'll love the experience.

Baja has another successful fishing trip. Just threw out a naked hook this time and filled the boat.

Are you being duped by in life my very clever people. I think you are ripe for it.....

Blessings,

baja

Keep in mind, Baja, that it DID look quite convincing at first glance that you responded under a wrong username. It's hardly everyone just jumping on Rev's lobster and riding along. To say you did this as a deliberate attempt to get them riled up is silly.

OABB
07-12-2011, 12:36 PM
No.. because "everyone" is usually wrong.... the majority is usually behind the minority that actually knows what is going on.

Why do you think someone has to be proved right or wrong? Why not just take opinions and consider them...

That is what I do. thats why i have been making fun of you. you have stupid opinions sometimes (which is fine, i loved mcd!) and you wont admit it. i can admit it. You are the type that i cant stand because instead of being open to being wrong, you hide behind a psuedo.intellectual shell and fiegned superiority when you are clearly not superior or intelligent.

baja
07-12-2011, 12:36 PM
The fact thay baja isnt smart enough to play someone so stupid is enough for me. i think he just typed what he said accidently and now is trying to pretend it was part of some lesson.

Not a lesson but an example. For it to be a lesson you would have had to learn something and clearly you have not. ;D

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:37 PM
What a horrible answer. It is sad that so many lack an education in a country that makes it so easy to get one.

You didn't get it...

You are another mindless herder..

When are people going to learn that everyone doesn't have to be the same or fit into the same cookie cutter pattern..

It's you that needs to be educated.. small mindedness...

OABB
07-12-2011, 12:40 PM
Not a lesson but an example. For it to be a lesson you would have had to learn something and clearly you have not. ;D

Not true. Intent is the important thing here. I have intentionally done things to teach a lesson and paid the price here. The difference is that when i did it it was calculated and my intent was clear. You may have stumbled on to a good point, but to pretend that this was all planned is gross. And Lame.

Rabb
07-12-2011, 12:42 PM
there is no way TJ isn't involved with this as well...it's either blatant trolling, multiple accounts or he is aware of it for some off season traffic

either way, it's really effing sad

baja
07-12-2011, 12:45 PM
Not true. Intent is the imortant thing here. I have intentionally done things to teach a lesson and paid the price here. The difference is that when i did it it was calculated and my intent was clear. You may have stumbled on to a good point, <b>but to pretend that this was all planned is gross. And Lame.

Ha It's not that hard but think as will.

It was exactly my plan and you all took it hook line and sinker.

Opps I just used the same phrase as MacGruger, have I messed up again?

broncocalijohn
07-12-2011, 12:45 PM
And the people who claimed conspiracies don't work just got suckered...

Ironic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD25S5lWCzo

Please watch all parts of this video... to learn about Herd mentality..

I thought posters putting up cute videos and pictures is part of the herd mentality. Now you are doing it?

baja
07-12-2011, 12:46 PM
there is no way TJ isn't involved with this as well...it's either blatant trolling, multiple accounts or he is aware of it for some off season traffic

either way, it's really effing sad

Ah the conspiracy deepens.... LOL

OABB
07-12-2011, 12:48 PM
Ha It's not that hard but think as will.

It was exactly my plan and you all took it hook line and sinker.

Opps I just used the same phrase as MacGruger, have I messed up again?

Where did i take it? i never said that. there you go again with that herd mentality...twice in 24 hours you have accused me of a falsehood.

Perhaps you shoukd start practicing what you preach?

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:48 PM
I thought posters putting up cute videos and pictures is part of the herd mentality. Now you are doing it?

No.. mindless funny videos and pictures that any monkey could choose from for any situation...

A monkey would not be able to tell the real info from the disinfo..


A monkey would post a clip from Tropic Thunder rather than actually focus on what is important..

That One Guy
07-12-2011, 12:51 PM
Just for a quick rundown on why I came to the conclusion that Baja and MacGoob aren't the same.

No real correlation in post counts. On days when MacBoob never posted, Baja has 10-15 posts. On days when MacLube went off for 125+, Baja still has 10-15 posts.

MacNewb uses periods everywhere. That's usually a subconscious typing thing that symbolizes a break in thought or something when people use them like that. Pull up his recent posts and look at how many use ellipses in completely random, useless spots - oftentimes just instead of periods. Then pull up Baja's and compare. Baja has more concise posts, to the point, and uses punctuation fairly accurately (though his spelling sometimes leaves much to be desired).

Then, consider the content of the posts. Baja has mentioned a couple times his mother. MacGruder made a reference only in his posts where he was talking about his dad seeing the spaceship back in the day. In that regard, the two just seem to come across as having a different sentiment towards the parents.

Finally, MacGruder makes reference to his father working(ING) at Boeing and having been in HS in the late 60s. The timeline for the entire "my dad saw a spaceship" thread fits that very reasonably. Baja, meanwhile, was most likely either out of HS or about to graduate in the late 60s as well. The whole spaceship story was too intricate to just be a total fabrication made up on a whim.

Finally, just the things they know about are different. Baja thinks people can live on sunshine and fresh air while Mac is trying to draw us schematics on anti-gravity. I've never seen Baja show a technical prowess even remotely comparable to what MacGruder uses.

It just doesn't work out.

Oh, and the infamous "Baja gets outed post"... MacGruder had already responded to that exact same post 20 minutes earlier. Unless there's something wrong in Baja's noggin, it wouldn't take him 20 minutes to come up with what amounts to an impulsive response and forget that he's logged into the wrong account (and forget he already responded so he'd look goofy responding to it again).

broncocalijohn
07-12-2011, 12:52 PM
No.. because "everyone" is usually wrong.... the majority is usually behind the minority that actually knows what is going on.

Why do you think someone has to be proved right or wrong? Why not just take opinions and consider them...

I know what you are saying here. Perfect example of minority (Nazi Germany) being correct over the majority (most of the World)?

jhns
07-12-2011, 12:55 PM
You didn't get it...

You are another mindless herder..

When are people going to learn that everyone doesn't have to be the same or fit into the same cookie cutter pattern..

It's you that needs to be educated.. small mindedness...

You keep making claims that you aren't able to back. This is only proving my point...

It is never too late. You can go back to school at any time. Don't be afraid to better yourself.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:55 PM
I know what you are saying here. Perfect example of minority (Nazi Germany) being correct over the majority (most of the World)?

That makes absolutely no sense.. I am not saying a fascist dictatorship needs to be in place.. but people need to recognize just because the minority believes something doesn't mean they are right.. I was never the one that said I MYSELF was definitely right. I am saying don't lynch people because they disagree with the majority because they could be right.

broncocalijohn
07-12-2011, 12:56 PM
The Mane would have been better with just one and not two of these guys. I would take Baja anyday of the week of MacGruber. Some would rather have none of the above but I have never seen a brick like MacGruber ever at the Mane (even though Spider can be one and does it to perfection).

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 12:57 PM
You keep making claims that you aren't able to back. This is only proving my point...

It is never too late. You can go back to school at any time. Don't be afraid to better yourself.

You show your own ignorance by saying what you are saying... if you knew many intelligent and creative people you would understand the error in your thinking..

That One Guy
07-12-2011, 01:03 PM
The Mane would have been better with just one and not two of these guys. I would take Baja anyday of the week of MacGruber. Some would rather have none of the above but I have never seen a brick like MacGruber ever at the Mane (even though Spider can be one and does it to perfection).

The baja of yesteryear? Absolutely. The aggressive, irritable baja of late? Maybe not.

I'd take Mac over baja and Gaff every day of the week. Mac is a conspiracy nut but won't force it down your throat and throw the personal jabs that the other two will.

DHallblows
07-12-2011, 01:04 PM
That makes absolutely no sense.. I am not saying a fascist dictatorship needs to be in place.. but people need to recognize just because the minority believes something doesn't mean they are right.. I was never the one that said I MYSELF was definitely right. I am saying don't lynch people because they disagree with the majority because they could be right.

But the majority is a herd following the minority. You're ****ing retarded.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:07 PM
But the majority is a herd following the minority. You're ****ing retarded.

Don't just follow ONE person, idiot.. LOL

I can'y believe I need to explain this to people..

I am saying listen to everyone.. don't just listen to one person or one group.. USE YOUR OWN MIND.

Don't assume someone is wrong because they aren't following the one person you are..

55CrushEm
07-12-2011, 01:09 PM
No.. mindless funny videos and pictures that any monkey could choose from for any situation...

A monkey would not be able to tell the real info from the disinfo..


A monkey would post a clip from Tropic Thunder rather than actually focus on what is important..

I like funny monkey videos......

<iframe width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-Em-vnwUPNE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SzVlC-lpCU0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oRc8njN6C-E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:14 PM
Just for a quick rundown on why I came to the conclusion that Baja and MacGoob aren't the same.



You are a very intelligent guy.. I hope you look into the info I have mentioned because I think a level headed guy like yourself would see what is going on if you look into all this deeply.

I could use someone like you to help sort through all this. The more people sorting through it the more likely we discover where all this is leading and how to fight it.

TDmvp
07-12-2011, 01:17 PM
You are a very intelligent guy.. I hope you look into the info I have mentioned because I think a level headed guy like yourself would see what is going on if you look into all this deeply.

I could use someone like you to help sort through all this. The more people sorting through it the more likely we discover where all this is leading and how to fight it.

Hilarious!

OABB
07-12-2011, 01:17 PM
You are a very intelligent guy.. I hope you look into the info I have mentioned because I think a level headed guy like yourself would see what is going on if you look into all this deeply.

I could use someone like you to help sort through all this. The more people sorting through it the more likely we discover where all this is leading and how to fight it.

Not to speak for that one guy(who may be the most level headed and objective poster on tbis sight, certainly a favorite of mine), but why would he waste his time helping someone who cant even speak clearly? perhaps you should be asking what you coukd do for him.

OABB
07-12-2011, 01:18 PM
I suck at.smartphone typing...

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:19 PM
All truth goes through three phases..

First it is ridiculed

Second it is violently opposed

third it is accepted as self evident


They laughed as cold fusion just like that 20 years ago.. no it is being proven to be real.. Imagine if they had taken it seriously then...

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:22 PM
Not to speak for that one guy(who may be the most level headed and objective poster on tbis sight, certainly a favorite of mine), but why would he waste his time helping someone who cant even speak clearly? perhaps you should be asking what you coukd do for him.

Have you ever heard of the phrase throwing the baby out with the bath water?

DHallblows
07-12-2011, 01:22 PM
Now now champ, nice try. Here is what you're saying...


You start with one specific, dumb statement:
No.. because "everyone" is usually wrong.... the majority is usually behind the minority that actually knows what is going on.

Why do you think someone has to be proved right or wrong? Why not just take opinions and consider them...


Then someone points out your hyperbole:
I know what you are saying here. Perfect example of minority (Nazi Germany) being correct over the majority (most of the World)?


Then you tweak your stance to make your original statement look less stupid:
That makes absolutely no sense.. I am not saying a fascist dictatorship needs to be in place.. but people need to recognize just because the minority believes something doesn't mean they are right.. I was never the one that said I MYSELF was definitely right. I am saying don't lynch people because they disagree with the majority because they could be right.


Then someone points out that you have contradicted yourself:
But the majority is a herd following the minority. You're ****ing retarded.


So you modify your already tweaked, original statement another time:
Don't just follow ONE person, idiot.. LOL

I can'y believe I need to explain this to people..

I am saying listen to everyone.. don't just listen to one person or one group.. USE YOUR OWN MIND.

Don't assume someone is wrong because they aren't following the one person you are..


Then I point out the progression of your opinion somehow changing with time and I win.

OABB
07-12-2011, 01:22 PM
You arent cold fusion, bro. Things that become true, that make it through ridicuke have to at least be smart.

Your dumb theories are ridiculed because they are, in fact, deserving of ridicule.

Dont you get it?

OABB
07-12-2011, 01:25 PM
Now now champ, nice try. Here is what you're saying...


You start with one specific, dumb statement:



Then someone points out your hyperbole:



Then you tweak your stance to make your original statement look less stupid:



Then someone points out that you have contradicted yourself:



So you modify your already tweaked, original statement another time:



Then I point out the progression of your opinion somehow changing with time and I win.


Like i said...the truth that he is stupid is still in phase one in his head. Next will be violent oppisiton and than finally he wilk see.

jhns
07-12-2011, 01:25 PM
You show your own ignorance by saying what you are saying... if you knew many intelligent and creative people you would understand the error in your thinking..

You, again, are not making any sense. Go back to school. You need it.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:25 PM
Now now champ, nice try. Here is what you're saying...


You start with one specific, dumb statement:



Then someone points out your hyperbole:



Then you tweak your stance to make your original statement look less stupid:



Then someone points out that you have contradicted yourself:



So you modify your already tweaked, original statement another time:



Then I point out the progression of your opinion somehow changing with time and I win.

You are wrong.. because none of the things I said are mutually exclusive.. You can do more than one thing at a time..

One person can be more right than the majority but that doesn't mean they are right about everything...

Again. I can't believe I need to explain this stuff.. it should be self explanatory...

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:26 PM
You, again, are not making any sense. Go back to school. You need it.

You are a left-brained simpleton.

jhns
07-12-2011, 01:29 PM
You are a left-brained simpleton.

I am superior to you in every way.

broncocalijohn
07-12-2011, 01:29 PM
Now we are away from his horrible takes in football and are in his favorite territory; Himself and me vs the world mentality.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:29 PM
You arent cold fusion, bro. Things that become true, that make it through ridicuke have to at least be smart.

Your dumb theories are ridiculed because they are, in fact, deserving of ridicule.

Dont you get it?

But see.. YOU don't get it.. that is the entire POINT of the quote.. because people never know what is and isn't TRUTH. If they did they would never mock the actual truth along with things that are wrong. Just because something sounds ridiculous doesn't mean it is.. that attitude is what slows progress down so much.

DHallblows
07-12-2011, 01:30 PM
You are wrong.. because none of the things I said are mutually exclusive.. You can do more than one thing at a time..

One person can be more right than the majority but that doesn't mean they are right about everything...

Again. I can't believe I need to explain this stuff.. it should be self explanatory...

Well obviously. If anything they are mutually inclusive...because each is a new, updated form of your original opinion

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:31 PM
I am superior to you in every way.

Why? Because you are a punctuation and grammar nazi? LOL I can tell by your posting what a big zero you are... All the schooling in the world won't change that..

No soup for you!

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 01:32 PM
I gotta give some credit to baja, he actually did lay down enough smoke screen to suck you guys back in...

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:33 PM
Well obviously. If anything they are mutually inclusive...because each is a new, updated form of your original opinion

No they are not.. that is the point... I didn't say the SAME minority was always right.. I said the minority.. not the majority..

And I never said to blindly follow anyone.. your pea brain can't join these together without someone explaining it to you..

That is probably why you are a herder...

TDmvp
07-12-2011, 01:34 PM
You are a left-brained simpleton.


Proving once again you know little about most ...


Left brained people.

When a person devolpes a dominance toward one side of their brain, they tend to have certain characteristics and areas of intest in common. The left side of the brain is often thought of as the logical, thinking side. Also, people of left brain dominance tend to choose similar occupations.
Below is a list of things that left brained people are good at or they like and things that are done in the left brain.

Good at math
Like to read
Very Logical
Prefer Classical Music
Usually rational
Good at algebra
Almost never absent minded

Here are some occupations that are USUALLY fufilled by a left-brained person. (There are always exceptions)

Lab scientist
Banker
Judge
Lawyer
Mathematician



I think you ment to say RIGHT brained because it's normally the side linked to being dingy or absent minded ...

That One Guy
07-12-2011, 01:35 PM
But see.. YOU don't get it.. that is the entire POINT of the quote.. because people never know what is and isn't TRUTH. If they did they would never mock the actual truth along with things that are wrong. Just because something sounds ridiculous doesn't mean it is.. that attitude is what slows progress down so much.

No, conspiracy theorists that sling massive quantities of poo and hope to be right (but rarely are) slows the process. You have the misfortune of coming to a place where the walls are already marked with Gaff's poo. We should've been in Nuclear War #4 by now according to Gaff's predictions yet here I am, fingering my belly button as usual. When you introduce a radical concept, you have to have enough evidence to overcome the traditional thought process on a given subject. Instead, you come in with anecdotal (or worse) accounts and cliches like "Take off the blinders!" and expect that to be weight enough to turn the world upside down.

The only ones who can regularly be convinced seem to be the ones who, for ego purposes, seem to want to be part of the enlightened club. They want to think they know what's going on while all the simpletons around them are left in the dark. They want so badly to believe that they're willing to cast out a mountain of conventional thought for a pebble's worth of new evidence.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:40 PM
Proving once again you know little about most ...


Left brained people.

When a person devolpes a dominance toward one side of their brain, they tend to have certain characteristics and areas of intest in common. The left side of the brain is often thought of as the logical, thinking side. Also, people of left brain dominance tend to choose similar occupations.
Above are just some things associated with the left cerebal hemisphere of the brain. People who are left brain dominant are usually good with these things. Below is a list of things that left brained people are good at or they like and things that are done in the left brain.

Good at math
Like to read
Very Logical
Prefer Classical Music
Usually rational
Good at algebra
Almost never absent minded

Here are some occupations that are USUALLY fufilled by a left-brained person. (There are always exceptions)

Lab scientist
Banker
Judge
Lawyer
Mathematician



I think you ment to say RIGHT brained because it's normally the side linked to being dingy or absent minded ...

No.. I was dead on.. I have researched this subject a lot. A grammar nazi is going to be a left brained person..

Did you know that left brain dominant people will LIE to themselves to create order in their own minds? if they don't know the answer to something they will LIE to themselves in order to remove that lack of knowledge. When you understand this you will understand WHY our society is so F'ed up.. We live in a left brain world.

Right brain people see the big picture and see things as they actually ARE. They are intuitive and see patterns.. make creative leaps that the left cannot because they are mired in convention and rigid structure..

Einstein was extremely right brain dominant..

Which was why he could do what no other scientists of his time could do...

vancejohnson82
07-12-2011, 01:40 PM
This definitely isn't where I parked my car

DHallblows
07-12-2011, 01:40 PM
No they are not.. that is the point... I didn't say the SAME minority was always right.. I said the minority.. not the majority..

And I never said to blindly follow anyone.. your pea brain can't join these together without someone explaining it to you..

That is probably why you are a herder...

1. I never said otherwise. 2. Again, that was not the point of your original post. But another nice change of your opinion to fit your current arguing needs.

By the way, I can think you're a crazy person without being a herder.

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 01:42 PM
I gotta give some credit to baja, he actually did lay down enough smoke screen to suck you guys back in...

So true.... Ha!

jhns
07-12-2011, 01:46 PM
Why? Because you are a punctuation and grammar nazi? LOL I can tell by your posting what a big zero you are... All the schooling in the world won't change that..

No soup for you!

I haven't said anything about punctuation or grammar. To the uneducated, this makes me a grammar nazi. In reality, the uneducated are just self conscious about their poor English skills.

It must suck knowing that a big zero is so much better than you.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:46 PM
No, conspiracy theorists that sling massive quantities of poo and hope to be right (but rarely are) slows the process. You have the misfortune of coming to a place where the walls are already marked with Gaff's poo. We should've been in Nuclear War #4 by now according to Gaff's predictions yet here I am, fingering my belly button as usual. When you introduce a radical concept, you have to have enough evidence to overcome the traditional thought process on a given subject. Instead, you come in with anecdotal (or worse) accounts and cliches like "Take off the blinders!" and expect that to be weight enough to turn the world upside down.

The only ones who can regularly be convinced seem to be the ones who, for ego purposes, seem to want to be part of the enlightened club. They want to think they know what's going on while all the simpletons around them are left in the dark. They want so badly to believe that they're willing to cast out a mountain of conventional thought for a pebble's worth of new evidence.

I'm not in that club.. I have said repeatedly that I was not a conspiracy theorist.. it took an INCREDIBLE chain of events to allow me to see what is going on (partially). I repeatedly say that I don't blame people for not beliving it... I doubt I would believe it if I was in your shoes. I think it makes things even harder for people when they don't have knowledge of science.

I am not trained but it is something I have had a very very strong interest in my whole life. I think I may be more passionate about it than many who are trained.. I think that is what kept me from making it a career believe it or not.. but that is a long story,.

The other problem is that to see what is going on you have to really dig into this.. read books etc.. So I know people are unlikely to believe it and do that research.. but I try to find ways that might spark them.

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 01:50 PM
....and wait for it:

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 01:50 PM
lol @ 1000

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 01:54 PM
It figures TheRev would get 999...

Masonic numerology... This thread is probably some kind of masonic sacrifice to his coven or whatever the hell they call themselves..

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 01:56 PM
ok baja

Dagmar
07-12-2011, 01:56 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/159596/loud-noises-o.gif

TDmvp
07-12-2011, 01:59 PM
Damn those Masons and Shriners for their burn hospitals , charity work , silly little parade cars and funny hats ...

I knew all that had to be some sorta cover and they was really monsters...

The Masons in my town help fund a homeless shelter by doing little dinners and music events... Pure evil...


Edit: /sarcasm for those slower members .

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 02:05 PM
Damn those Masons and Shriners for their burn hospitals , charity work , silly little parade cars and funny hats ...

I knew all that had to be some sorta cover and they was really monsters...

The Masons in my town help fund a homeless shelter by doing little dinners and music events... Pure evil...


Edit: /sarcasm for those slower members .


The US sends food to foreign countries and bombs them at the same time.. do you know how many presidents and politicians are Freemasons or connected to Freemasonry?

Noticing a theme here?

It's like our government creating the image that Americans are fat, dumb, happy and idealistic and then internally they are as ruthless as imaginable..

bowtown
07-12-2011, 02:08 PM
Mexico must be really boring.

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 02:14 PM
ok baja

We are still doing the virgin sacrifice tonight to please the US government weather machine tonight right?

GreatBronco16
07-12-2011, 02:34 PM
We are still doing the virgin sacrifice tonight to please the US government weather machine tonight right?

Damn I forgot. Was it at 8 or 9 tonight?

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 02:37 PM
Damn I forgot. Was it at 8 or 9 tonight?

8 o'clock, I want to have my head in the sand by 10 tonight.

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 02:59 PM
8 o'clock, I want to have my head in the sand by 10 tonight.

I think I can make it, but I have a Masonic virgin sacrifice at 6 that MAY run late and I need to be done in time to help start the next conspiracy with the new Ground Zero design late this evening while paying off the FDA with checks from "Big Aspartame". Oh, and I need to traffic weapons to Mexico in exchange for drugs because that toilet of a country is all our fault.

Fortunately I have a super sonic anti gravity vehicle, so I think I can cram it all in.

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 03:23 PM
I think I can make it, but I have a Masonic virgin sacrifice at 6 that MAY run late and I need to be done in time to help start the next conspiracy with the new Ground Zero design late this evening while paying off the FDA with checks from "Big Aspartame". Oh, and I need to traffic weapons to Mexico in exchange for drugs because that toilet of a country is all our fault.

Fortunately I have a super sonic anti gravity vehicle, so I think I can cram it all in.

Damn that is a busy day :)

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 03:25 PM
Damn that is a busy day :)

Only because you've been conditioned to think that. The conference that my days are in is so much better than your overrated conferences that your busiest day would be average in my day conference.

(This is starting to get confusing)

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 03:36 PM
You "guys" are giving too much away about yourselves.. you are obviously comedy writers by this incredibly witty patter...

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 03:40 PM
You "guys" are giving too much away about yourselves.. you are obviously comedy writers by this incredibly witty patter...

I want to confess the truth baja:

The episode was supposed to air around season 6, but it was mysteriously cut. The “official” story about the episode was that it featured Elaine purchasing a firearm after being mugged, but many elements about this episode were never revealed until recently. NBC Executives refused to officially report on the episode until the Seinfeld season 6 DVD commentary. I have the tape but as someone who works within NBC, unfortunately I can’t reveal my sources.

I work at the GE building in Rockefeller Plaza, and I have access to their digital archives, that’s as much as I can divulge. We also have the entire original Seinfeld series in multiple formats, including original reels and VHS tapes. I noticed an episode with the production code “607” was missing from the tape set, and it was relocated in a set of old news reels. The replacement episode “The Mom and Pop Store” was filmed a season later to replace the missing episode. It is oddly titled “The Mason”

The episode starts out as normal, with Jerry’s apartment, but the camera is much more steady. Jerry walks out as though he’s been drugged and remarks that all of his family and friends have been dying lately. His buzzer rings and it’s George. George runs up, half crying and tells Jerry he’s seen something terrible. He’s mumbling and stuttering for about five minutes until he can form a sentence. There are still pauses for humor, but there is no audience or laugh track. George informs jerry that planes have crashed into the twin towers due to a terrorist attack on New York.


Jerry turns on the news and you can see modern footage of the 9/11 attacks, all prefilmed several years beforehand. George says that isn’t the worst part: Elaine and Kramer were in the towers at the time of the bombing. What proceeds is a graphic and explicit phone call of screaming and crying and Kramer saying that something terrible has happened, and elaine is dead. Kramer screams there’s no air in the building, and he’s burning to death, and that he’s going to jump.

The camera cuts to live footage of a man falling from the twin towers. George genuinely looks upset and says “I’m sorry Larry I can’t go through with this” and he tries to walk off the set but people stop him and push him towards the stage. He walks out jerry’s prop window and you can hear him calling his agent. There’s a lot of mumbling and you can see candles being lit behind the stage.

Jerry goes over to the bookcase and pulls it aside, revealing a ceremonial black table with candles, a dinner plate and a strange box. There is a Masonic symbol against black cloth just outside where the fake stage window would be. Jerry says some weird things in a foreign dialect, and one cut of the camera shows a poster of Barack Obama (This episode originally aired in 1995). The scene ends with jerry waking up in bed, as though it’s all a nightmare. Kramer comes in and asks if jerry has seen a lizard. Jerry laughs and says “we are the lizards” and the camera zooms slightly. His eyes become slivered, like almonds.

The tape is only 7 minutes long and what proceeds is just 20 minutes of dead air. If you continue watching to the end, it seems there are three more news reports tacked on. The first is about an outbreak of swine flu, the second about a train bombing, and the third...

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:00 PM
Now imagine the above attempt by TheRev if he actually had some talent or creativity...

It's so amazing how people with talent make something look so easy... then you see someone without talent try it and it looks like the hardest thing in the world.. lol

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 04:05 PM
Now imagine the above attempt by TheRev if he actually had some talent or creativity...

It's so amazing how people with talent make something look so easy... then you see someone without talent try it and it looks like the hardest thing in the world.. lol

http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Seinfeld_Lost_Episode

Ha!

OABB
07-12-2011, 04:07 PM
macruder just walks right into them.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:08 PM
figures... the rev even trying to take credit for some talentless hacks work....

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:11 PM
macruder just walks right into them.

How is that me walking into something? The rev plagarizing someones lame idea because he can't even come up with his own stuff? It's the equivalent of posting tired pics and vids and acting like he is funny...

But he's a follower.. we know that.. why else would you join the Masons?

GreatBronco16
07-12-2011, 04:14 PM
But he's a follower.. we know that.. why else would you join the Masons?


But I thought you said he was our leader? So he follows then leads?

Make up your mind.

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 04:15 PM
How is that me walking into something? The rev plagarizing someones lame idea because he can't even come up with his own stuff? It's the equivalent of posting tired pics and vids and acting like he is funny...

But he's a follower.. we know that.. why else would you join the Masons?

where else can you kill virgins and not get in trouble?

GreatBronco16
07-12-2011, 04:16 PM
where else can you kill virgins and not get in trouble?

Florida.

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 04:17 PM
But I thought you said he was our leader? So he follows then leads?

Make up your mind.

The night time is the right time. The streets will flow of with the blood of the nonbelievers.

DBroncos4life
07-12-2011, 04:18 PM
Florida.

ZING!

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:20 PM
But I thought you said he was our leader? So he follows then leads?

Make up your mind.

I didn't say he was a real leader.. I said he was YOUR leader.. You are all followers...

A DISCKtator isn't a true leader anyway.. they lead by intimidation.. sound familiar...

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 04:20 PM
How is that me walking into something? The rev plagarizing someones lame idea because he can't even come up with his own stuff? It's the equivalent of posting tired pics and vids and acting like he is funny...

But he's a follower.. we know that.. why else would you join the Masons?

To help people and strengthen communities?

Novel concept I know...

Your idea of helping the modern world is to concoct conspiracies and complain about them on NFL football forums while running away to Mexico.

My idea of helping the modern world is to actually do something about it.

Go figure.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:22 PM
To help people and strengthen communities?

Novel concept I know...

Your idea of helping the modern world is to concoct conspiracies and complain about them on NFL football forums while running away to Mexico.

My idea of helping the modern world is to actually do something about it.

Go figure.

The greatest evils are done under the guise of "helping"....

It's all about power, control and rationalization..

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 04:22 PM
The night time is the right time. The streets will flow of with the blood of the nonbelievers.

Repped for obscure Sandler reference.

I didn't say he was a real leader.. I said he was YOUR leader.. You are all followers...

A DISCKtator isn't a true leader anyway.. they lead by intimidation.. sound familiar...

What's a DISCKtator, bro?

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 04:24 PM
The greatest evils are done under the guise of "helping"....

Yup.

Burn hospitals, college scholarships, feeding the needy, etc

Some really great and sinister evils...

GreatBronco16
07-12-2011, 04:27 PM
I didn't say he was a real leader.. I said he was YOUR leader.. You are all followers...

A DISCKtator isn't a true leader anyway.. they lead by intimidation.. sound familiar...

Ohhhhhhh, so when he's not a follower, he's MY leader, is that correct?


So who's the leader with your clan? You or Baja?

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:28 PM
Yup.

Burn hospitals, college scholarships, feeding the needy, etc

Some really great and sinister evils...

That would be fine if that was ALL taht was done... I am sure people do these things and then it's a justification for doing other things because they feel they have the right.. they are "good" people who know what's best for everyone... They' earned it.. They are special..

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:30 PM
Ohhhhhhh, so when he's not a follower, he's MY leader, is that correct?


So who's the leader with your clan? You or Baja?

Look at the military.. they have "leaders" who are followers..

No leader of me.. I don't blindly follow people and I'm not easily intimidated..

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 04:31 PM
Look at the military.. they have "leaders" who are followers..

No leader of me.. I don't blindly follow people and I'm not easily intimidated..

...then why did you run away to Mexico again?

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:34 PM
...then why did you run away to Mexico again?

Because I heard they had good lobster in Rosarito...

GreatBronco16
07-12-2011, 04:36 PM
Look at the military.. they have "leaders" who are followers..

No leader of me.. I don't blindly follow people and I'm not easily intimidated..

You just blindly follow the conspiricy theory crowd.

MacGruder
07-12-2011, 04:54 PM
You just blindly follow the conspiricy theory crowd.

No.. because the conspiracy theory crowd is convinced the government is hiding aliens.. that's the problem. That is why disinfo is so effective..

When my dad saw what he did I din't believe it was aliens or the government.. I didn't believe the government could keep the tech secret so long...

But then something major happened and it made me realize that it really wasn't a secret.. because everyone was aware of it.. And the reason no one had developed it is because they are actively suppressing education and technology and they have tied the concept of aliens and antigravity together so tightly no one takes it seriously. You can discredit a theory or subject just like you can discredit a person.. a smear campaign..

TheReverend
07-12-2011, 04:59 PM
No.. because the conspiracy theory crowd is convinced the government is hiding aliens.. that's the problem. That is why disinfo is so effective..

When my dad saw what he did I din't believe it was aliens or the government.. I didn't believe the government could keep the tech secret so long...

But then something major happened and it made me realize that it really wasn't a secret.. because everyone was aware of it.. And the reason no one had developed it is because they are actively suppressing education and technology and they have tied the concept of aliens and antigravity together so tightly no one takes it seriously. You can discredit a theory or subject just like you can discredit a person.. a smear campaign..

Never change.