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Inkana7
07-10-2011, 06:11 PM
This thread is spectacular.

orangeatheist
07-10-2011, 06:25 PM
I guess not enough to create a fake account to piss people off. LOL

No, you don't get it. Look at Baja's avatar and how he capitalized "Self." It's a New Age thing. He loves his Self, not himself. Get a Course in Miracles, that should explain it to you. :peace:

GreatBronco16
07-10-2011, 06:48 PM
Yes there IS. It's all over..

Weather modification is a well known technology.. so are directed energy weapons - microwave technology. They were in use in the 80s and were going to be used in the Star Wars missile defense program.

Seriously.. all this banter and shenanigans is fun but I am not joking here. I understand why people are skeptical. I didn't believe it. but give it a real listen and I think you will be shocked at the real data this woman has to offer..

watch all 5 episodes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXYvvwJ5IQg&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.drjudywood.com/




Here is another good interview..

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/01/RIR-110118.php

This is STEEL turning into dust.. if you understand what you are looking at this is smoking gun evidence... conventional fires and collapse would not cause this.. we are not accustomed to technology like this in the public sector.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlRhkn8LLeE

LOLHilarious!LOLHilarious!LOLHilarious!


Thanks, that made my evening.

bowtown
07-10-2011, 06:57 PM
But as former Nixon aide G. Gordon Liddy once told me (and he should know!), the problem with government conspiracies is that bureaucrats are incompetent and people canít keep their mouths shut. Complex conspiracies are difficult to pull off, and so many people want their quarter hour of fame that even the Men in Black couldnít squelch the squealers from spilling the beans. So thereís a good chance that the more elaborate a conspiracy theory is, and the more people that would need to be involved, the less likely it is true.

Why do people believe in highly improbable conspiracies? In previous columns I have provided partial answers, citing patternicity (the tendency to find meaningful patterns in random noise) and agenticity (the bent to believe the world is controlled by invisible intentional agents). Conspiracy theories connect the dots of random events into meaningful patterns and then infuse those patterns with intentional agency. Add to those propensities the confirmation bias (which seeks and finds confirmatory evidence for what we already believe) and the hindsight bias (which tailors after-the-fact explanations to what we already know happened), and we have the foundation for conspiratorial cognition.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-people-believe-in-conspiracies

Dagmar
07-10-2011, 06:59 PM
Thank you MacGruder, you wonderful retard.

Archer81
07-10-2011, 07:00 PM
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-people-believe-in-conspiracies


Well clearly that is what they want us to think.

Classic misdirection...

...


:Broncos:

MacGruder
07-10-2011, 07:09 PM
the Men in Black couldnít squelch the squealers from spilling the beans.

This is an article posted on another message board.. the article is from one of the most respected aviation journals around.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message907287/pg1

UFOs my Ass - all man made attempts at Electrogravitic (antigravity) technology
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Paul LaViolette: The U.S. Antigravity Squadron.

Electrogravitic (antigravity) technology, under development in U.S. Air Force black R&D programs since late 1954, may now have been put to practical use in the B-2 Advanced Technology Bomber to provide an exotic auxiliary mode of propulsion. This inference is based on the recent disclosure that the B-2 charges both its wing leading edge and jet exhaust stream to a high voltage.

Positive ions emitted from its wing leading edge would produce a positively charged parabolic ion sheath ahead of the craft while negative ions injected into it's exhaust stream would set up a trailing negative space charge with a potential difference in excess of 15 million volts. According to electrogravitic research carried out by physicist T. Townsend Brown, such a differential space charge would set up an artificial gravity field that would induce a reactionless force on the aircraft in the direction of the positive pole.

An electrogravitic drive of this sort could allow the B-2 to function with over-unity propulsion efficiency when cruising at supersonic velocities.

For many years rumors circulated that the U.S. was secretly developing a highly advanced, radar-evading aircraft. Rumor turned to reality in November of 1988, when the Air Force unveiled the B-2 Advanced Technology Bomber. Although military spokesmen provided the news media with some information about the craft's outward design, and low radar and infrared profile, there was much they were silent about. However, several years later, some key secrets about the B-2 were leaked to the press.

On March 9, 1992, "Aviation Week and Space Technology" magazine made a surprising disclosure that the B-2 electrostatically charges its exhaust stream and the leading edges of its wing-like body. Those familiar with the electrogravitics research of American physicist T. Townsend Brown will quickly realize that this is tantamount to stating that the B-2 is able to function as an antigravity aircraft.

"Aviation Week" obtained their information about the B-2 from a small group of renegade west coast scientists and engineers who were formerly associated with black research projects. In making these disclosures, these scientists broke a code of silence that rivals the Mafia's. They took the risk because they felt that it was important for economic reasons that efforts be made to declassify certain black technologies for commercial use.

Two of these individuals said that their civil rights had been blatantly abused (in the name of security) either to keep them quiet or to prevent them from leaving the tightly controlled black R&D community.

Several months after "Aviation Week" published the article, black world security personnel went into high gear. That sector of the black R&D community received VERY STRONG warnings and, as a result, the group of scientists subsequently broke off contact with the magazine. Clearly, the overseers of black R&D programs were substantially concerned about the information leaks that had come out in that article.

To completely understand the significance of what was said about the B-2, one must first become familiar with Brown's work. Beginning in the mid 1920's, Townsend Brown discovered that it is possible to create an artificial gravity field by charging an electrical capacitor to a high-voltage.

He specially built a capacitor which utilized a heavy, high charge-accumulating (high K-factor) dielectric material between its plates and found that when charges with between 70,000 to 300,000 volts, it would move in the direction of its positive pole. When oriented with its positive side up, it would proceed to lose about 1 percent of it's weight.

He attributed this motion to an electrostatically-induced gravity field acting between the capacitor's oppositely charged plates. By 1958, he had succeeded in developing a 15 inch diameter model saucer that could lift over 110% of its weight!

Brown's experiments had launched a new field of investigation which came to be known as electrogravitics, the technology of controlling gravity through the use of high-voltage electric charge.

As early as 1952, an Air Force major general witnessed a demonstration in which Brown flew a pair of 18 inch disc airfoils suspended from opposite ends of a rotatable arm. When electrified with 50,000 volts, they circuited at a speed of 12 miles per hour. About a year later, he flew a set of 3 foot diameter saucers for some Air Force officials and representatives from a number of major aircraft companies.

When energized with 150,000 volts, the discs sped around the 50 foot diameter course so fast that the subject was immediately classified. "Interavia" magazine later reported that the discs would attain speeds of several hundred miles per hour when charged with several hundred thousand volts.

Thomas Valone: Electrogravitics For Advanced Propulsion.

Recently, two 1956 military documents, "Electrogravitics Systems" and "The Gravitics Situation," originally published by the Gravity Research Group of London (Special Weapons Study Unit), were declassified. Outlining T. Townsend Brown's antigravity discovery (see Atlantis Rising, Number 22, p.35; AIR International, Jan., 2000; Janeís Defence Weekly, 10 June 1995, p.34), and the subsequent Project Winterhaven, they were a vital new chapter in aviation research. For example, the documents state, "Unlike the turbine engine, electro-gravitics is not just a new propulsion system, it is a new mode of thought in aviation and communications, and it is something that may become all-embracing."

To explain, "electrogravitics" is the science of using high voltage electricity to provide propulsive force to aircraft or spacecraft of certain geometries. Or as Jeane Manning explains, "The apparatus is pulled along by its self-generated gravity field, like a surfer riding a wave." Its discovery is often credited to Thomas Townsend Brown, a physicist who was encouraged by his professor, Dr. Paul Biefield, a former classmate of Albert Einstein. However, there are those who say that Professor Francis Nipher's experiments, electrically charging lead balls, published in the Electrical Experimenter, in 1918, predates Biefield/Brown.

MacGruder
07-10-2011, 07:14 PM
Watch this video and see what an old black project engineer says about how the government goes to incredible and disturbing lengths to keep secrets..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3975546396136405829

One of the most respected aviation journalists around wrote a book showing the documented evidence since WWII showing the antigravity technology that has been developed in secret. He is the host of the above video.. If you watch that video closely and read between the lines you see what he is trying to get across..how this alien stuff is all part of a massive disinfo campaign to keep these super technologies secret. It's called disinformation. You don't need to keep something secret.. you just bury it in nonsense or discredit it.

baja
07-10-2011, 07:16 PM
I got some remote land for sale in Baja. Water, good soil, year round growing and 360 days of sun. Perfect to survive the coming storm so as to be healthy to start rebuilding. ;D

epicSocialism4tw
07-10-2011, 07:17 PM
MacGruber, do Sasquatches fly the UFO's?

baja
07-10-2011, 07:22 PM
Watch this video and see what an old black project engineer says about how the government goes to incredible and disturbing lengths to keep secrets..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3975546396136405829

One of the most respected aviation journalists around wrote a book showing the documented evidence since WWII showing the antigravity technology that has been developed in secret. He is the host of the above video.. If you watch that video closely and read between the lines you see what he is trying to get across..how this UFO alien stuff is all part of a massive disinfo campaign to keep these super technologies secret. It's called disinformation. You don't need to keep something secret.. you just bury it in docid nonsense or discredit it.

I looked into this extensively years ago and decided it didn't matter if it were true or not. What is important is all systems seem to be breaking down with no political solution in sight. We are headed for some very difficult times. Best to be self sufficient and prepared to live in a remote location on short notice.

BTW; Enjoy your life each and every day.

DBroncos4life
07-10-2011, 07:27 PM
MacGruber, do Sasquatches fly the UFO's?

They are called wookies.

MacGruder
07-10-2011, 07:27 PM
I looked into this extensively years ago and decided it didn't matter if it were true or not. What is important is all systems seem to be breaking down with no political solution in sight. We are headed for some very difficult times. Best to be self sufficient and prepared to live in a remote location on short notice.

BTW; Enjoy your life each and every day.

That is true. Society seems to be breaking down so much and as you can see on this site - people have such an incredible disregard for individuality or common decency.. pretty scary. And they won't let technologies that allow people to live a self sustaining yet comfortable life be developed.

MacGruder
07-10-2011, 07:28 PM
They are called wookies.

Sounds like you and your crew of cronies.. hahah

HAT
07-10-2011, 07:38 PM
I like McGruder.

He's playing you all like a fiddle.

Wow....What a fall for baja. From power poster to running around snuggling up to the resident troll du jour.

How does it feel to play the part of dragster to MacGuano's jhns?

tsk tsk

epicSocialism4tw
07-10-2011, 07:38 PM
They are called wookies.

bwahahahaha! LOL

I guess MacGruber is Han Solo.

baja
07-10-2011, 07:44 PM
Wow....What a fall for baja. From power poster to running around snuggling up to the resident troll du jour.

How does it feel to play the part of dragster to MacGuano's jhns?

tsk tsk

Relax dude I agree with some of your stuff too. ;D

It's all good ya know....

epicSocialism4tw
07-10-2011, 07:49 PM
Relax dude I agree with some of your stuff too. ;D

It's all good ya know....

Most people have a crazy uncle or something. Mine's a crazy aunt. She's into all kinds of weird conspiracy and holisitc stuff.

She's pretty cool, though. Even though she's weird.

You and MacGruber can be someone's crazy uncle. Gaffney though...that dude's more like Ted Kaczynksi without the math genius.

Don't be Ted Kaczynski, Baja.

baja
07-10-2011, 08:11 PM
Most people have a crazy uncle or something. Mine's a crazy aunt. She's into all kinds of weird conspiracy and holisitc stuff.

She's pretty cool, though. Even though she's weird.

You and MacGruber can be someone's crazy uncle. Gaffney though...that dude's more like Ted Kaczynksi without the math genius.

Don't be Ted Kaczynski, Baja.

I respect all living entities. In simple terms I see them as part of the same thing I am part of therefore I would never harm them. They are me, I would only be harming myself. Do unto others and all that...

baja
07-10-2011, 08:13 PM
Why do you think I endure the insults to bring real news here. Because I care about all of you that's why.

MacGruder
07-10-2011, 09:18 PM
I respect all living entities. In simple terms I see them as part of the same thing I am part of therefore I would never harm them. They are me, I would only be harming myself. Do unto others and all that...

I have the same philosophy.. it seems that we all might live every life over time. It seems like the only fair system.

OABB
07-10-2011, 09:36 PM
I have the same philosophy.. it seems that we all might live every life over time. It seems like the only fair system.

interesting. When do you think you will get to live mine. You could use the intelligence boost.

baja
07-10-2011, 09:41 PM
interesting. When do you think you will get to live mine. You could use the intelligence boost.

At least he doesn't question one's military service in the annoying OM pack dog fashion newly infamous around here.

Only a real idiot would do something like that.

OABB
07-10-2011, 09:49 PM
At least he doesn't question one's military service in the annoying OM pack dog fashion newly infamous around here.

Only a real idiot would do something like that.

what's wrong with questioning service? aren't you a person for free expression and discussion? besides, if it's a ridiculous notion than why does it bother you?
You can question if I'm a black midget wrestler and it wouldn't matter to me in the least.

MacGruder
07-10-2011, 10:04 PM
interesting. When do you think you will get to live mine. You could use the intelligence boost.

More insecurity on display from the BOOB... Oh.. I mean OABB Such an easy slip of the fingers in your case there..

gunns
07-10-2011, 10:05 PM
he said Jesus... so obviously it's Tebow and Quinn (Notre Dame).

however, if he'd said Satan instead, then it would have been Orton.

sorry Kyle, but time for you to move on. i suggest Oakland. the Prince of Darkness is in firm control of that franchise.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/gallery/al-davis-face/al-davis.jpg

Dude looks like he's been smoking a ton.

strafen
07-10-2011, 10:14 PM
he said Jesus... so obviously it's Tebow and Quinn (Notre Dame).

however, if he'd said Satan instead, then it would have been Orton.

sorry Kyle, but time for you to move on. i suggest Oakland. the Prince of Darkness is in firm control of that franchise.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/gallery/al-davis-face/al-davis.jpgMan, I can't tell whether that's a real Al Davis or a photoshop! ROFL! LOL

OABB
07-10-2011, 10:15 PM
More insecurity on display from the BOOB... Oh.. I mean OABB Such an easy slip of the fingers in your case there..

You could use the humor boost as well.

epicSocialism4tw
07-10-2011, 10:16 PM
Dude looks like he's been smoking a ton.

That picture is monsterous. He looks like a bunch of loose skin folded over shark cartilage.

Someone needs to start helping that guy. I mean look at his fingernails.

baja
07-10-2011, 10:35 PM
what's wrong with questioning service? aren't you a person for free expression and discussion? besides, if it's a ridiculous notion than why does it bother you?
You can question if I'm a black midget wrestler and it wouldn't matter to me in the least.

It didn't bother me I considered the sources.

I mention it to point out a prime example of some people's herd mentality and the ignorance that conveys to other more well reasoned people.

You might want to review you style of "asking" about my service in the thread where this took place.

MacGruder
07-10-2011, 10:35 PM
You could use the humor boost as well.

Is that supposed to be an example of it? LOL

Quite a fantasy world YOU have there...

OABB
07-10-2011, 10:46 PM
It didn't bother me I considered the sources.

I mention it to point out a prime example of some people's herd mentality and the ignorance that conveys to other more well reasoned people.

You might want to review you style of "asking" about my service in the thread where this took place.

You may want to. I never questioned it. i dont care.at all. I just thought it was funny that you called me weak for not posting a picture of myself, and than when you were asked to do the same you ran away.

Its a good example of your continual inability to practice what you preach. Many others assumed you never served. I never said anything.

baja
07-10-2011, 10:49 PM
You may want to. I never questioned it. i dont care.at all. I just thought it was funny that you called me weak for not posting a picture of myself, and than when you were asked to do the same you ran away.

Its a good example of your continual inability to practice what you preach. Many others assumed you never served. <b> I never said anything.

If that is true than I apologize but I remember it differently. Not saying I got a great memory especially for mundane things.

OABB
07-10-2011, 10:51 PM
If that is true than I apologize but I remember it differently. Not saying I got a great memory especially for mundane things.

No worries. Still the best thread ever imho.

Its where I won the belt.

Boobs McGee
07-10-2011, 11:00 PM
what's wrong with questioning service? aren't you a person for free expression and discussion? besides, if it's a ridiculous notion than why does it bother you?
You can question if I'm a black midget wrestler and it wouldn't matter to me in the least.

Whoa whoa whoa. Black midget WRESTLER? Come on dude, we ALL know you're a black midget carnie. Let's not sugar coat for the sake of sugar coating. Be proud of that cabbage smell ;)

And ps what the Hell is this thread about, anyways? Abbreviated F-18 face melting version please.

OABB
07-10-2011, 11:03 PM
Whoa whoa whoa. Black midget WRESTLER? Come on dude, we ALL know you're a black midget carnie. Let's not sugar coat for the sake of sugar coating. Be proud of that cabbage smell ;)

And ps what the Hell is this thread about, anyways? Abbreviated F-18 face melting version please.

Macgruder is stupid. He said tom brady made sam bradford a high pick. And than insulted everyone that asked him to explain. Than he said more stupid stuff.

We should invite socal to a beer with us.

Boobs McGee
07-10-2011, 11:09 PM
Macgruder is stupid. He said tom brady made sam bradford a high pick. And than insulted everyone that asked him to explain. Than he said more stupid stuff.

We should invite socal to a beer with us.

Wow. And its twenty pages! Kudos to your internet kickassery...I'm sure goading that clown along wasn't TOO terribly exciting, but sometimes being the undisputed champ isn't all sunshine and unicorn farts.

That's cool with me, always up for meetin maners! Did I mention I'm gonna be out there till the 31st now?

HAT
07-10-2011, 11:11 PM
Macgruder is stupid. He said tom brady made sam bradford a high pick. And than insulted everyone that asked him to explain. Than he said more stupid stuff.

We should invite socal to a beer with us.

Let's not forget......"The SEC is tougher than the NFL" /paraphrase.

MacGruder
07-10-2011, 11:56 PM
Macgruder is stupid. He said tom brady made sam bradford a high pick. And than insulted everyone that asked him to explain. Than he said more stupid stuff.

We should invite socal to a beer with us.

The fact you have to rewrite history to make your case proves you have no case..

Thank you, moron.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:06 AM
Let's not forget......"The SEC is tougher than the NFL" /paraphrase.

How else do you explain Tebow being a better runner in the NFL than he was in college then?

Tebow isn't facing SEC speed in these games now.. the same evaluating system that made scrubs like Bradford and McCoy Heisman favorites over Tebow overrates all the other players entering the NFL.. just as Tebow was underrated coming out of the SEC by playing SEC competition. Even Peyton manning was underrated coming out of college for the same reason.

The very process that made Tebow so immensely and unbelievably underrated is actually what makes the NFL less of a challenge than the SEC. Because the NFL is watered down and filled with overrated players relative to the SEC...

I am sure you will pull a TheRev level disappearing act now... and simply scoff and provide no support for your scoffing..

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:10 AM
Wow. And its twenty pages! Kudos to your internet kickassery...I'm sure goading that clown along wasn't TOO terribly exciting, but sometimes being the undisputed champ isn't all sunshine and unicorn farts.

That's cool with me, always up for meetin maners! Did I mention I'm gonna be out there till the 31st now?

It has been fun actually. Macruder is after me in other threads too. 31st? we will both be 300 pounds by that time.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 12:11 AM
How else do you explain Tebow being a better runner in the NFL than he was in college then?

Tebow isn't facing SEC speed in these games now.. the same evaluating system that made scrubs like Bradford and McCoy Heisman favorites over Tebow overrates all the other players entering the NFL.. just as Tebow was underrated coming out of the SEC by playing SEC competition. Even Peyton manning was underrated coming out of college for the same reason.

The very process that made Tebow so immensely and unbelievably underrated is actually what makes the NFL less of a challenge than the SEC. Because the NFL is watered down and filled with overrated players relative to the SEC...

I am sure you will pull a TheRev level disappearing act now... and simply scoff and provide no support for your scoffing..

The first overall pick in the 1998 draft was underrated? GTFO!!!!

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:13 AM
Let's not forget......"The SEC is tougher than the NFL" /paraphrase.

Oh yeah! Forgot that one. Jeez...so much gold in that head of his.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:16 AM
How else do you explain Tebow being a better runner in the NFL than he was in college then?

Tebow isn't facing SEC speed in these games now.. the same evaluating system that made scrubs like Bradford and McCoy Heisman favorites over Tebow overrates all the other players entering the NFL.. just as Tebow was underrated coming out of the SEC by playing SEC competition. Even Peyton manning was underrated coming out of college for the same reason.

The very process that made Tebow so immensely and unbelievably underrated is actually what makes the NFL less of a challenge than the SEC. Because the NFL is watered down and filled with overrated players relative to the SEC...

I am sure you will pull a TheRev level disappearing act now... and simply scoff and provide no support for your scoffing..

You are the best thing to happen here in a long time.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:18 AM
The first overall pick in the 1998 draft was underrated? GTFO!!!!

Yes he was... Many people said it was a debate between him and Leaf.. which is just unbelievably asinine.. as asinine as it was drafting a guy who couldn't stay healthy in the soft BIG12 behind the best line in college football over Tebow in the NFL.

That would be like putting your money on Uzzi in an MMA fight over Brock Lesnar because Uzzi dominated a preschooler in his division more than Lesnar dominated Randy Couture...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw1X9dzHcqg

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:19 AM
You are the best thing to happen here in a long time.

See.. numbnuts did exactly what I said he would...

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:20 AM
See.. numbnuts did exactly what I said he would...

And what was that?

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 12:23 AM
Yes he was... Many people said it was a debate between him and Leaf.. which is just unbelievably asinine.. as asinine as it was drafting a guy who couldn't stay healthy in the soft BIG12 behind the best line in college football over Tebow in the NFL.

That would be like putting your money on Uzzi in an MMA fight over Brock Lesnar because Uzzi dominated a preschooler in his division more than Lesnar dominated Randy Couture...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw1X9dzHcqg

The debate was over the 1st and 2nd pick in the draft. People saw Leaf as the better QB and that is ****ing it. ONE PLAYER. There was only one player in the 1998 draft that was underrated and that should feel like he was slapped in the face. I'm sure with all your football knowledge you know who that is.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:26 AM
The debate was over the 1st and 2nd pick in the draft. People saw Leaf as the better QB and that is ****ing it. ONE PLAYER. There was only one player in the 1998 draft that was underrated and that should feel like he was slapped in the face. I'm sure with all your football knowledge you know who that is.

Brian griese?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:27 AM
The debate was over the 1st and 2nd pick in the draft. People saw Leaf as the better QB and that is ****ing it. ONE PLAYER. There was only one player in the 1998 draft that was underrated and that should feel like he was slapped in the face. I'm sure with all your football knowledge you know who that is.


You don't get it.. we are talking about Peyton Manning.. arguably the best QB in NFL HISTORY.

And it was a debate between him and a guy who couldn't even hack it in the league.. do you really think that same debate would have been there if Leaf was on a comparable teams to Manning's in the SEC?

No chance in the world.. because Leaf would have been exposed in the SEC.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:31 AM
You don't get it.. we are talking about Peyton Manning.. arguably the best QB in NFL HISTORY.

And it was a debate between him and a guy who couldn't even hack it in the league.. do you really think that same debate would have been there if Leaf was on a comparable teams to Manning's in the SEC?

No chance in the world.. because Leaf would have been exposed in the SEC.

Manning was obly underrated because tom brady was underrated.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:32 AM
Manning was obly underrated because tom brady was underrated.


Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 12:33 AM
You don't get it.. we are talking about Peyton Manning.. arguably the best QB in NFL HISTORY.

And it was a debate between him and a guy who couldn't even hack it in the league.. do you really think that same debate would have been there if Leaf was on a comparable teams to Manning's in the SEC?

No chance in the world.. because Leaf would have been exposed in the SEC.
That's why he was picked number one overall, and again the SEC wasn't the major power conference back then.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:34 AM
Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

Yes. But only because tom brady changed the way i look at food.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 12:37 AM
Brian griese?

Randy Moss, one of the best WR's in the history of the NFL. He went 21st, but he wasn't from the SEC so I doubt he makes it to the HOF.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:41 AM
That's why he was picked number one overall, and again the SEC wasn't the major power conference back then.

Right.. because the people drafting always get it right...

They still were THE power.. they just weren't as much a power as they are right now...

That the SEC can win championships year after year even going THROUGH the SEC is unbelievable.. It's why Tebow's accomplishment was so unbelievable and why it was so ridiculous his accomplishments were undervalued.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 12:48 AM
Right.. because the people drafting always get it right...

They still were THE power.. they just weren't as much a power as they are right now...

That the SEC can win championships year after year even going THROUGH the SEC is unbelievable.. It's why Tebow's accomplishment was so unbelievable and why it was so ridiculous his accomplishments were undervalued.

You do know that NU won 3 out of 4 NC while Manning was in college right? They even beat two SEC schools. One was 62 to 24 and the other was against Manning 42 to 17.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:55 AM
You do know that NU won 3 out of 4 NC while Manning was in college right? They even beat two SEC schools. One was 62 to 24 and the other was against Manning 42 to 17.

Go read my last post a few more times then get back to me..

Let's say 2 teams were going to face each other in a championship game.. one team had to run a marathon the day before.. the other didn't.. who should win the championship game?

Now go read my last post again a few more times...

Shananahan
07-11-2011, 01:09 AM
Can the mods please make it so this is the only thread the guy is allowed to post in from now on? I feel like it's much more enjoyable when it is contained and localized, and it would prevent him from becoming a distraction elsewhere.

Cito Pelon
07-11-2011, 01:45 AM
I'm undecided if this thread should go into the cluster**** category, or the fubar category.

Doggcow
07-11-2011, 02:22 AM
Go read my last post a few more times then get back to me..

Let's say 2 teams were going to face each other in a championship game.. one team had to run a marathon the day before.. the other didn't.. who should win the championship game?

Now go read my last post again a few more times...

I'll go with the team that's so bad ass they run marathons before games, for fun. Seems like an obvious answer to me.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 07:41 AM
How else do you explain Tebow being a better runner in the NFL than he was in college then?

Tebow isn't facing SEC speed in these games now.. the same evaluating system that made scrubs like Bradford and McCoy Heisman favorites over Tebow overrates all the other players entering the NFL.. just as Tebow was underrated coming out of the SEC by playing SEC competition. Even Peyton manning was underrated coming out of college for the same reason.

The very process that made Tebow so immensely and unbelievably underrated is actually what makes the NFL less of a challenge than the SEC. Because the NFL is watered down and filled with overrated players relative to the SEC...

I am sure you will pull a TheRev level disappearing act now... and simply scoff and provide no support for your scoffing..

...I went away for the weekend. My apologies some of us have things to do.

Don't worry, I'm back now... and what a fantastic post to invoke me in. After all, who knew when SEC players were talking about the time needed to adjust to the speed of the NFL they meant adjusting to a slower game.

Sounds legit!

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 07:44 AM
You don't get it.. we are talking about Peyton Manning.. arguably the best QB in NFL HISTORY.

And it was a debate between him and a guy who couldn't even hack it in the league.. do you really think that same debate would have been there if Leaf was on a comparable teams to Manning's in the SEC?

No chance in the world.. because Leaf would have been exposed in the SEC.

Tell me more about these dominant QBs in this conference that's more dominant than the NFL:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolnews.com/media/2007/03/jamarcus.jpg

TheChamp24
07-11-2011, 08:44 AM
How else do you explain Tebow being a better runner in the NFL than he was in college then?

Tebow isn't facing SEC speed in these games now.. the same evaluating system that made scrubs like Bradford and McCoy Heisman favorites over Tebow overrates all the other players entering the NFL.. just as Tebow was underrated coming out of the SEC by playing SEC competition. Even Peyton manning was underrated coming out of college for the same reason.

The very process that made Tebow so immensely and unbelievably underrated is actually what makes the NFL less of a challenge than the SEC. Because the NFL is watered down and filled with overrated players relative to the SEC...

I am sure you will pull a TheRev level disappearing act now... and simply scoff and provide no support for your scoffing..

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/7/20/60dcf288-6e4d-4959-afad-4253f0ed84ce.jpg
http://img.hsmagazine.net/2011/02/triple-facepalm.jpg

OABB
07-11-2011, 09:04 AM
Tebows a better runner in the nfl than he was in college?


Is this truth in the violently opposed stage yet or still the ridicule one macdoucher?

bowtown
07-11-2011, 10:05 AM
FIRST-TEAM ALL-SEC -- OFFENSE 2006

TE Martrez Milner NFL Career: out of football.
TE Jacob Tamme NFL Career: Solid back-up in Indy.
OL Arron Sears NFL Career: out of football.
OL Zac Tubbs NFL Career: never played.
OL Tim Duckworth NFL Career: Never made the active roster now out of football.
OL Tony Ugoh NFL Career: Starter until recently
C Jonathan Luigs NFL Career: out of football
C Steve Rissler NFL Career: never played
WR Robert Meachem NFL Career: Starter
WR Dwayne Bowe NFL Career: Starter
WR Dallas Baker NFL Career: CFL player
QB JaMarcus Russell NFL Career: out of football
RB Darren McFadden NFL Career: Starter
RB Kenny Irons NFL Career: out of football

Just goes to show you how hard it is to really slow your game down and play under your talent level once you reach the NFL. Most guys are unable to make that adjustment... such a disadvantage for the SEC.

OABB
07-11-2011, 10:14 AM
Awesome.

Gort
07-11-2011, 10:15 AM
on this thread, i learned:

a) SEC football > NFL football.
b) there are 3 phases to any truth/lie. no more, no less.
c) 32nd level freemasons are pulling all the strings. we are their puppets.
d) MacGruder is completely batsh*t crazy.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:28 AM
Tell me more about these dominant QBs in this conference that's more dominant than the NFL:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolnews.com/media/2007/03/jamarcus.jpg

That's your example? No one ever said Jamarcus didn't have the talent..they said he wouldn't work hard and use his talent.

Was that ever a question about Tebow? So how is it possible he is a better runner in the NFL than in college?

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 10:31 AM
That's your example? No one ever said Jamarcus didn't have the talent..they said he wouldn't work had and use his talent.

Was that ever a question about Tebow? So how is it possible he is a better runner in the NFL than in college?

...Why do you keep injecting Tebow into things that have nothing to do with him?

alkemical
07-11-2011, 10:32 AM
...Why do you keep injecting Tebow into things that have nothing to do with him?

Not to mention, the rumor is he's a virgin. I doubt he's injecting anything.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:33 AM
...Why do you keep injecting Tebow into things that have nothing to do with him?

Because he is a perfect example of the point I am trying to illustrate.. why is that an issue?

Was he not an SEC player?

Why can't you ever answer a question with a straight answer?

Is questioning why I use Tebow as an example a way of dodging the question because you have no answer? Obviously...

jhns
07-11-2011, 10:33 AM
...Why do you keep injecting Tebow into things that have nothing to do with him?

Because he is a Tebow fanboy. He doesn't care about anything else.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:35 AM
Because he is a Tebow fanboy. He doesn't care about anything else.

Who isn't a Tebow fanboy? If you aren't you got problems.. I would say most in this thread qualify there...

jhns
07-11-2011, 10:39 AM
Who isn't a Tebow fanboy? If you aren't you got problems.. I would say most in this thread qualify there...

No, most are Bronco fanboys. If Tebow was traded/cut, no one would care about him.

baja
07-11-2011, 10:41 AM
Just goes to show you how hard it is to really slow your game down and play under your talent level once you reach the NFL. Most guys are unable to make that adjustment... such a disadvantage for the SEC.

LOL good one ;D

I like McGruger, but he laid himself open for this one.

This thread is like finding a good magazine article while you are taking a shiit during an restroom stop at a never before visited place.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:42 AM
No, most are Bronco fanboys. If Tebow was traded/cut, no one would care about him.

So you admit you are a homer?

Any OBJECTIVE fan should be a Tebow fanboy....

jhns
07-11-2011, 10:43 AM
So you admit you are a homer?

Any OBJECTIVE fan should be a Tebow fanboy....

Wtf?

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 10:43 AM
Because he is a perfect example of the point I am trying to illustrate.. why is that an issue?

Was he not an SEC player?

Why can't you ever answer a question with a straight answer?

Is questioning why I use Tebow as an example a way of dodging the question because you have no answer? Obviously...

...Perfect example?

He's a horrible example. There's no ****ing sample size to work with.

He rushed 43 times last year... in comparison that's less than HALF his amount of rushes his freshman year when he barely played.

baja
07-11-2011, 10:44 AM
I think there is a good chance Elway will trade Tebow if he feels we will get a shot at Luck.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:46 AM
...Perfect example?

He's a horrible example. There's no ****ing sample size to work with.

He rushed 43 times last year... in comparison that's less than HALF his amount of rushes his freshman year when he barely played.

It doesn't matter.. his performance for it being only his first three games is what made it such an incredible accomplishment.. the sample size SUPPORTS my statement.. Imagine when he gets more experienced in his own offense and the tendencies of his opposition. His familiarity with his offense and passing game will make him an even better runner...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:46 AM
By your definition the Big East is also more talented then the NFL.


Why?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:49 AM
I think there is a good chance Elway will trade Tebow if he feels we will get a shot at Luck.

What do you think of the Broncos QB situation, Baja? I wish if Elway already made up his mind he would just make his move.. I just hope he doesn't feel pressured so he isn't following his instincts. I don't think that is good for anyone.

enjolras
07-11-2011, 10:52 AM
What do you think of the Broncos QB situation, Baja? I wish if Elway already made up his mind he would just make his move.. I just hope he doesn't feel pressured so he isn't following his instincts. I don't think that is good for anyone.

What move? He has no way of knowing who has the first overall pick next year, and you have no chance of landing a premier QB in the league today (those players are rarely traded.. Brees being the last).

Not that it matters, there is nothing on our roster that will get a team to budge from that #1 pick next year. For better or worse, this team is Tebow's team for the next few years.

baja
07-11-2011, 10:53 AM
What do you think of the Broncos QB situation, Baja? I wish if Elway already made up his mind he would just make his move.. <b>I just hope he doesn't feel pressured so he isn't following his instincts. I don't think that is good for anyone.

Didn't you post earlier you thought Elway's instincts were flawed, stuck in the NFL of yesterday?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:56 AM
What move? He has no way of knowing who has the first overall pick next year, and you have no chance of landing a premier QB in the league today (those players are rarely traded.. Brees being the last).

Not that it matters, there is nothing on our roster that will get a team to budge from that #1 pick next year. For better or worse, this team is Tebow's team for the next few years.

I just mean if Elway has already made up his mind that Tebow can't be an elite QB in the NFL. I don't know that he has or hasn't. I am just saying if he has. It just seems from watching the events that he might feel pressured to keep Tebow by the fans. Let's put it this way... if Tebow was the same guy but no one knew who he was would Tebow still be in the same position he is now? Would Elway even pretend he was taking him seriously as a potential franchise QB or would he not because Tebow is not a polished looking pocket passer?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 10:57 AM
Didn't you post earlier you thought Elway's instincts were flawed, stuck in the NFL of yesterday?

I think most guys from Elway's era are.. like I said.. I haven't seen Elway say anything at all to make me believe he isn't another one of them.

Rabb
07-11-2011, 11:04 AM
I think most guys from Elway's era are.. like I said.. I haven't seen Elway say anything at all to make me believe he isn't another one of them.

so his instincts are flawed

What do you think of the Broncos QB situation, Baja? I wish if Elway already made up his mind he would just make his move.. I just hope he doesn't feel pressured so he isn't following his instincts. I don't think that is good for anyone.

so you want him to follow, his flawed instincts then...is this some sort of vortex?

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 11:07 AM
I think there is a good chance Elway will trade Tebow if he feels we will get a shot at Luck.

A very small part of me would want this to happen just so MacGruber would follow Cutler fan and leave the Mane. I come back here and it grows 5 pages. It takes either a good post fight or one retard vs the masses.

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 11:13 AM
It's pretty hilarious ya'll mock me for conspiracy theories and you guys are the ones with the real paranoid delusions.. lol

Not a surprise at all with the IQ we are dealing with here..

Arent you the one that is scared Elway is going to get rid of Tebow? I doubt many here are thinking that but you sure do. You are paranoid.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:14 AM
Mike Vick has been a much better rushing QB in the NFL.

Mike Vick was a better rusher in the NFL than in college? I don't think so.. in fact he's worse...

Vick was a number one pick because he looked so good rushing outside of the SEC. Tebow was better running in his first three game in the NFL than Vick was.. and Vick looked like a better runner than Tebow in his conference in college.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:21 AM
Arent you the one that is scared Elway is going to get rid of Tebow? I doubt many here are thinking that but you sure do. You are paranoid.

You don't understand what I am saying at all.. and you appear to be paranoid.

I am worried Elway is keeping Tebow without committing to him fully and is half-hearted in his support and instead of trading him keeps him and possibly moves him to another position because he is afraid of pissing off the fans.

How can that even be considered an irrational fear considering the controversy regarding Tebow's NFL ability?

Most people here are Broncos homers and are worried about this scrub team more than Tebow's long term success. Crappy teams are a dime a dozen.. Tebow could be a revolutionary player and one of the all time greats if things break his way. That is why most here aren't really concerned about what happens either way.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:23 AM
so his instincts are flawed



so you want him to follow, his flawed instincts then...is this some sort of vortex?

I wish he would follow his instincts fully rather than pretend to support a player he really doesn't just to appease the fans.

I would rather see Tebow get traded in that situation because he would be more likely to reach his potential that way.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:31 AM
Vicks stats
college: Att 212 yards 1202 avg 5.7
Pros: Att 647 yards 4546 avg 7.25

You are only using his average per rush.. that doesn't equate to being a better runner.

FAIL.

Besides.. Vick was a number one pick.. Tebow was 25th.. Tebow out performed Vick in his first three starts.. and Tebow was considered a worse runner than Vick... this just illustrates my point.

Inkana7
07-11-2011, 11:33 AM
You are only using his average per rush.. that doesn't equate to being a better runner.

FAIL.

Yes it does.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:35 AM
Yes it does.

No, it doesn't. Because it doesn't factor in the number of attempts..

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 11:36 AM
The UFL is dramatically better than the NFL because Tatum Bell rushed for a full 1 ypc more in the NFL than he did in the UFL

bowtown
07-11-2011, 11:36 AM
No, it doesn't. Because it doesn't factor in the number of attempts..

Ummmm... yes actaully it does.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 11:37 AM
No, it doesn't. Because it doesn't factor in the number of attempts..

ypc=total/attempts

...

bowtown
07-11-2011, 11:38 AM
ypc=total/attempts

...

But you forgot to factor in the formula for antigravity which by it's very definition negates the "attempt" part of the equation.

BTW: This is also why Suh's rookie sack record last year doesn't count.

Rabb
07-11-2011, 11:39 AM
No, it doesn't. Because it doesn't factor in the number of attempts..

wow

you do get how an average is calculated, yes?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:41 AM
ypc=total/attempts

...

If a QB runs more per game their YPC is likely to go down.. if a QB runs less their YPC is likely to go up..

That was EXACTLY how Orton had a better YPC than Tebow and many of the Broncos runningbacks last season in games..

By that logic Orton is a better running QB than Tebow..

ULTIMATE FAIL.

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 11:46 AM
15 per game pros
14 per game college

MacGruber, you can't explain this one, can you?

Beantown Bronco
07-11-2011, 11:48 AM
That was EXACTLY how Orton had a better YPC than Tebow and many of the Broncos runningbacks last season in games..

I love how you just make stuff up:

Kyle Orton - 4.5 yds per rush
Tebow - 5.3 yds per rush

http://www.nfl.com/player/kyleorton/2506444/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/timtebow/497135/profile

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:50 AM
MacGruber, you can't explain this one, can you?

I can explain it.. but can I explain it to you halfwits.. that is the question..

You guys are actually making my case for me.. and you think it is a victory..

That just illustrates my point..

The fact is.. Tebow is a better runner than Vick and was drafted lower.. and both were better in the NFL

And you think you've WON... LOL

Ignorance truly is bliss...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 11:50 AM
If a QB runs more per game their YPC is likely to go down.. if a QB runs less their YPC is likely to go up..

That was EXACTLY how Orton had a better YPC than Tebow and many of the Broncos runningbacks last season in games..

By that logic Orton is a better running QB than Tebow..

ULTIMATE FAIL.

........ummmm you should apply to that your "Tebow is a better runner in the pros" concept because he ran DRAMATICALLY less as a pro than he did in college...

Please try to make sense just ONCE.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:51 AM
I love how you just make stuff up:

Kyle Orton - 4.5 yds per rush
Tebow - 5.3 yds per rush

http://www.nfl.com/player/kyleorton/2506444/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/timtebow/497135/profile

You REALLY need to work on your reading compression..

Note to beanbag.. all the words in a sentence are equally important and none should be ignored... LMAO

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 11:52 AM
And you think you've WON... LOL

Ignorance truly is bliss...

Dude... you're seriously retarded. Like a significant learning disability...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:53 AM
........ummmm you should apply to that your "Tebow is a better runner in the pros" concept because he ran DRAMATICALLY less as a pro than he did in college...

Please try to make sense just ONCE.

That might matter if I was using YPC as the determining factor of his running ability..

ULTIMATE ULTIMATE FAIL...

WOW

The sad thing is you think anyone buys your BS...LOL The sadder part is that in this crowd you are probably right..

alkemical
07-11-2011, 11:53 AM
Wow this thread has really hurt my brain.

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 11:53 AM
MacGruber, So now you dont mind using a very small attempts for Tebow since it fits into your theory but wasn't good enough when proven wrong with Orton or Vick. Interesting!

BTW, how many neg reps do you have compared to pos reps in just this thread? I am sure you trying to rep someone would show up as gray button.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:54 AM
Dude... you're seriously retarded. Like a significant learning disability...

So why is it if I am retarded you can't answer any question I have for you?

You got that backwards chappy...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:56 AM
So now you dont mind using a very small attempts for Tebow since it fits into your theory but wasn't good enough when proven wrong with Orton or Vick. Interesting!

I am comparing apples to apples.. You are trying to compare apples to cantaloupes because you know you have no argument and I am right...

bowtown
07-11-2011, 11:57 AM
If a QB runs more per game their YPC is likely to go down.. if a QB runs less their YPC is likely to go up..

That was EXACTLY how Orton had a better YPC than Tebow and many of the Broncos runningbacks last season in games..

By that logic Orton is a better running QB than Tebow..

ULTIMATE FAIL.

Wait, back to Vick. You just totally disproved your own point. Vick has significantly more attempts in the pros, therefore, by your little equation, his YPC should be lower than in college. But his YPC in the NFL is actually dramatically better than it was in college, every single season.

So tell me again how Vick was a better runner in college?

ULTIMATE FAIL

OABB
07-11-2011, 11:57 AM
This pwnage is devastating and hilarious. Macruder is the dumbest person i have ever met

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 11:59 AM
I messed up the stats it's actually 8 and 9.

So which was lower.. pros or college?

Where are you getting your stats?

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:00 PM
That might matter if I was using YPC as the determining factor of his running ability..

ULTIMATE ULTIMATE FAIL...

WOW

The sad thing is you think anyone buys your BS...LOL The sadder part is that in this crowd you are probably right..

Ummm... that's exactly what you used when I said the sample size for Tebow in the pros wasn't large enough to draw any conclusions...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:01 PM
This pwnage is devastating and hilarious. Macruder is the dumbest person i have ever met

This is truly the most delusional board I have ever encountered... LOL It's beyond entertaining... A study should be done on this board.. LMAO

And the best part is another person ignores the point of contention in ANOTHER post...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:01 PM
So why is it if I am retarded you can't answer any question I have for you?

You got that backwards chappy...

Lol, I've answered ALL of your questions you douche.

bowtown
07-11-2011, 12:02 PM
Wait, back to Vick. You just totally disproved your own point. Vick has significantly more attempts in the pros, therefore, by your little equation, his YPC should be lower than in college. But his YPC in the NFL is actually dramatically better than it was in college, every single season.

So tell me again how Vick was a better runner in college?

ULTIMATE FAIL

Talk about ignoring.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:03 PM
The internets. Want to address post #568?

LOL

bwaaahahahaha

I honestly almost feel bad.. it is like going to a school for mentally challenged adolescents with a pinata stick...

wow..

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:03 PM
Talk about ignoring.

Na, man, we're delusional... Uhh

In b4 "All truth" cop out

Beantown Bronco
07-11-2011, 12:04 PM
C'mon Taco.....errr, I mean MacGruder.....gotten enough hits yet? Can we end this pain?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:05 PM
Lol, I've answered ALL of your questions you douche.

You haven't answered one.. and ignored another attempt to answer another...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:06 PM
You haven't answered one.. and ignored another attempt to answer another...

Go ahead and quote one question I haven't answered then.

I'll be happy to quote me answering that question as proof I've answered all your stupid incoherent questions...

Meanwhile, YOU are the one dodging people left and right.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:06 PM
Ummm... that's exactly what you used when I said the sample size for Tebow in the pros wasn't large enough to draw any conclusions...

No it wasn't.... I never posted yards per carry... you are deluding yourself again...

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 12:06 PM
LOL

bwaaahahahaha

I honestly almost feel bad.. it is like going to a school for mentally challenged adolescents with a pinata stick...

wow..

Well, to be nice to the retarded, we won't hit you with the stick.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:08 PM
Go ahead and quote one question I haven't answered then.

I'll be happy to quote me answering that question as proof I've answered all your stupid incoherent questions...

Meanwhile, YOU are the one dodging people left and right.

I am answering EVERYONE'S questions and refuting them ALL.

You just ignored another chance to answer my question.. LOL

And I am not posting jack. If you answered my last question YOU would post it...

Better take another trip Rev.. LOL

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:10 PM
No it wasn't.... I never posted yards per carry... you are deluding yourself again...

I never said you did...

Here's me saying his sample size is too small:

...Perfect example?

He's a horrible example. There's no ****ing sample size to work with.

He rushed 43 times last year... in comparison that's less than HALF his amount of rushes his freshman year when he barely played.

Here's you saying his performance in that small sample size shows how great he is:

It doesn't matter.. his performance for it being only his first three games is what made it such an incredible accomplishment.. the sample size SUPPORTS my statement.. Imagine when he gets more experienced in his own offense and the tendencies of his opposition. His familiarity with his offense and passing game will make him an even better runner...

Then here's you arguing against what you just said in quotes above...

If a QB runs more per game their YPC is likely to go down.. if a QB runs less their YPC is likely to go up..

That was EXACTLY how Orton had a better YPC than Tebow and many of the Broncos runningbacks last season in games..

By that logic Orton is a better running QB than Tebow..

ULTIMATE FAIL.

Zero consistency or functional logic...

You're ****ing retarded.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:11 PM
I am answer EVERYONE'S questions and refuting them ALL.

You just ignored another chance to answer my question.. LOL

And I am not posting jack. If you answered my last question YOU would post it...

Better take another trip Rev.. LOL

Um no, you've been dodging Lev's post 568 and bowtown's example with Mike Vick that run completely contradictory... you haven't addressed either.

And like I said... I answered ALL of your questions. If you feel I haven't, quote you asking a question I didn't answer and I'll show you the answer.

...but you'd rather just lie and make **** up as usual, eh?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:13 PM
Do you really believe this nonsense you spew TheRev? If you do you seriously might need to talk to someone...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:15 PM
I am honestly starting to feel bad... I don't need to stroke my own go by rubbing people's noses in things.. for the record I want to make it known that that was not my intent...

I simply made an observation..

TailgateNut
07-11-2011, 12:15 PM
Dude... you're seriously retarded. Like a significant learning disability...


see "antigravity thread".^5

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:17 PM
Do you really believe this nonsense you spew TheRev? If you do you seriously might need to talk to someone...

I am honestly starting to feel bad... I don't need to stroke my own go by rubbing people's noses in things.. for the record I want to make it known that that was not my intent...

I simply made an observation..

Waiting:

Um no, you've been dodging Lev's post 568 and bowtown's example with Mike Vick that run completely contradictory... you haven't addressed either.

And like I said... I answered ALL of your questions. If you feel I haven't, quote you asking a question I didn't answer and I'll show you the answer.

...but you'd rather just lie and make **** up as usual, eh?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:20 PM
Yeah.. YOU are the one waiting Rev... LOL

This is just lame.. Rev.. if you answered my last question why don't you simply post the answer to it..

Answer.. because you didn't... just like the last time we went through this charade..

Fin.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:21 PM
Do you really believe this nonsense you spew TheRev? If you do you seriously might need to talk to someone...

Its hard not to believe the truth..especially when its on written record. you are still on stage 1 of accepting it.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:22 PM
Yeah.. YOU are the one waiting Rev... LOL

This is just lame.. Rev.. if you answered my last question why don't you simply post the answer to it..

Answer.. because you didn't... just like the last time we went through this charade..

Fin.

Holy ****!

I ANSWERED ALL YOUR ****ING QUESTIONS!

I'M NOT RE-ANSWERING WHATEVER QUESTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE I DONT KNOW WHAT ****ING QUESTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN SAYING QUOTE THE ****ING QUESTION YOU FEEL I HAVEN'T ANSWERED AND THAT I'M WAITING.

Jesus Christ, I don't know how to handle your level of stupidity...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:23 PM
Maybe larger letters will make you literate.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:30 PM
Macgruder may be the best heel this sight has ever had. He is either a maniac or the second coming of Andy Kaufman. Either way Im hooked. But there is no way anyone is thay stupid and able to type.

So maniac or comic genius.

alkemical
07-11-2011, 12:32 PM
I really like conversing with Macgruder. I find him interesting.

Archer81
07-11-2011, 12:32 PM
Macgruder may be the best heel this sight has ever had. He is either a maniac or the second coming of Andy Kaufman. Either way Im hooked. But there is no way anyone is thay stupid and able to type.

So maniac or comic genius.


Nobody beats Broncowarrior. That guy...his time was brief, but epic in doucheness.


:Broncos:

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 12:34 PM
In reality, this thread should be locked. Rev is going to pop veins and I cannot imagine MacGruber being this dumb. He is manic retarded but no one can be this much of a brick this side of Spider. Ive got to think he is now just trying to get on people's nerves. Seeing Rev's big type lettering, I am amused at his anger but still have to take his and everyone else's side. I just wished I knew if this was some joke and I can be in on it. Andy Kaufman? That could be it... mad genius!

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:34 PM
Nobody beats Broncowarrior. That guy...his time was brief, but epic in doucheness.


:Broncos:

On the douche meter I agree, but for blinding idiocy and.delusion, this guy is untouchable.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:35 PM
In reality, this thread should be locked. Rev is going to pop veins and I cannot imagine MacGruber being this dumb. He is manic retarded but no one can be this much of a brick this side of Spider. Ive got to think he is now just trying to get on people's nerves. Seeing Rev's big type lettering, I am amused at his anger but still have to take his and everyone else's side. I just wished I knew if this was some joke and I can be in on it. Andy Kaufman? That could be it... mad genius!

Therev is always like that.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:36 PM
I really like conversing with Macgruder. I find him interesting.

You should maybe look into that.

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 12:38 PM
Therev is always like that.

You don't think I personally know that? If I was him, I would just not come back to this thread. MacGruber has made it his little toy and I am beginning to think that no one can continue to think they are correct when they have been proven wrong. It would explain how someone could believe in conspiracy theories without questioning one piece of it.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 12:38 PM
In reality, this thread should be locked. Rev is going to pop veins and I cannot imagine MacGruber being this dumb. He is manic retarded but no one can be this much of a brick this side of Spider. Ive got to think he is now just trying to get on people's nerves. Seeing Rev's big type lettering, I am amused at his anger but still have to take his and everyone else's side. I just wished I knew if this was some joke and I can be in on it. Andy Kaufman? That could be it... mad genius!

Not mad, just trying to spell it out for him in large block letters because he clearly missed it when posted 5+ times prior.

alkemical
07-11-2011, 12:40 PM
You should maybe look into that.


nah, i don't like boring.

OABB
07-11-2011, 12:41 PM
You don't think I personally know that? If I was him, I would just not come back to this thread. MacGruber has made it his little toy and I am beginning to think that no one can continue to think they are correct when they have been proven wrong. It would explain how someone could believe in conspiracy theories without questioning one piece of it.

As a rev fanboy, Im counting on it. makes my day.

TheChamp24
07-11-2011, 12:46 PM
Holy mother of all things ****ing awesome, did MacGruder honestly state Tebow is a better runner than Vick?
And then dispute Vick not being better in the pro's due to his yards per attempt?
WTFLE>NGFKLNGRKLNGLKJNLlKNKSNDLGN
http://micron.thehhp.net/images/i_like_where_this_thread_is_going.jpg

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:54 PM
nah, i don't like boring.

I like talking to you too Alkemical.

But I don't dislike anyone unless they trash me for no reason.. I had no beef with most the people in this thread until they started playing follow the leader..

alkemical
07-11-2011, 12:56 PM
I like talking to you too Alkemical.

But I don't dislike anyone unless they trash me for no reason.. I had no beef with most the people in this thread until they started playing follow the leader..

Maybe they don't like where you are leading them too....

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 12:57 PM
Holy mother of all things ****ing awesome, did MacGruder honestly state Tebow is a better runner than Vick?
And then dispute Vick not being better in the pro's due to his yards per attempt?
WTFLE>NGFKLNGRKLNGLKJNLlKNKSNDLGN


It really shouldn't be a surprise.. just like it shouldn't be a surprise that Tebow will be a more successful QB than Bradford..

Tebow is built for the NFL AND has just as much talent in his own way if not more..

Vick is the more explosive runner but he's not a better NFL runner than Tebow.

Just like Vick would not have been a better SEC runner than Tebow for the same reason.

TheChamp24
07-11-2011, 12:58 PM
It really shouldn't be a surprise.. just like it shouldn't be a surprise that Tebow will be a more successful QB than Bradford..

Tebow is built for the NFL AND has just as much talent in his own way if not more..

Vick is the more explosive runner but he's not a better NFL runner than Tebow.

Just like Vick would not have been a better SEC runner than Tebow for the same reason.

Why will Tebow be more successful than Bradford?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 01:00 PM
Maybe they don't like where you are leading them too....

haha Good point. It's a scary world out there.. in more ways than one. Better to not know a lot of things to many people.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 01:03 PM
Why will Tebow be more successful than Bradford?

Because Tebow is better passer believe it or not.. AND he is far far more athletic and durable.

Bradford is actually the system QB. He only gets by on that system.. and that system doesn't work in the playoffs.

He likely will put up lots of numbers and wins in the regular season though. But it's fool's gold.. just like when he was in college.

Similar to Orton this season..

OABB
07-11-2011, 01:03 PM
I like talking to you too Alkemical.

But I don't dislike anyone unless they trash me for no reason.. I had no beef with most the people in this thread until they started playing follow the leader..

Just curious....are you just going to ignore the direct questions and responses from therev snd leyvenyse(whatever his name is..sorry)?

I would just like to know if you are going to admit defeat by quitting and slobberring on alkemicals knob? just trying to save time here.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 01:09 PM
Just curious....are you just going to ignore the direct questions and responses from therev snd leyvenyse(whatever his name is..sorry)?

I would just like to know if you are going to admit defeat by quitting and slobberring on alkemicals knob? just trying to save time here.

Why should I continue to answer their questions when they refuse to answer mine.. I won the debate. It's over. I have ran in circles with the Rev long enough.. anyone that has seen him debate should know his BS by now..

Archer81
07-11-2011, 01:13 PM
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1R828rFd2aI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:Broncos:

OABB
07-11-2011, 01:13 PM
Why should I continue to answer their questions when they refuse to answer kine.. I won the debate. It's over. I have ran in circles with the Rev long enough.. anyone that has seen him debate should know his BS by now..

ok. so you are quitting.

Thank you.

I think this thread is over now. I'm kind of sad that you lack the fortitude to try and man up, but your input was definitely enjoyable for the most part. It's rare someone loses this bad on the internet and cops out so weakly, and for that I thank you. Truly a legendary performance.

until we meet again, good luck and godspeed.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 01:15 PM
ok. so you are quitting.

Thank you.

I think this thread is over now. I'm kind of sad that you lack the fortitude to try and man up, but your input was definitely enjoyable for the most part. It's rare someone loses this bad on the internet and cops out so weakly, and for that I thank you. Truly a legendary performance.

until we meet again, good luck and godspeed.

Yeah. ok.. you win.. congratulations on your delusions.. LOL

OABB
07-11-2011, 01:17 PM
You.. ok.. you win.. congratulations on your delusions.. LOL

I won a long time ago because I am a fan of watching meltdowns. You already gave me numerous victories. I look forward to your posts from now on. The only thing that would put you in my faves would be to back up what you said and not be such a bitch about it, but that's a tall order when you are a maniac.

Beantown Bronco
07-11-2011, 01:19 PM
Maybe they don't like where you are leading them too....

Buyer beware. I told you my compound would take you places. I never said they'd be places you wanted to go.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 01:21 PM
Why should I continue to answer their questions when they refuse to answer mine.. I won the debate. It's over. I have ran in circles with the Rev long enough.. anyone that has seen him debate should know his BS by now..

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3214809&postcount=651

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wAxDMfEGhoY/TOx8QXZnYeI/AAAAAAAAAXI/YoRTFUzlA68/s1600/Not%2BSure%2Bif%2Bserious.jpg

Apparently massive block letters don't work either...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 01:36 PM
More retarded pics from the Rev.. that's how all this began.. how appropriate..

He had a big bag of nothing then and he has a big bag of nothing now..

I wonder if he got that from the Freemasons.. they have a monumental bag of nothing.. it probably took him his whole life to find that out.. which is why he is the way he is..

At least they have nothing for the people on the outside of the inside of the club..

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 01:39 PM
More retarded pics from the Rev.. that's how all this began.. how appropriate..

He had a big bag of nothing then and he has a big bag of nothing now..

I wonder if he got that from the Freemasons.. they have a monumental bag of nothing.. it probably took him his whole life to find that out.. which is why he is the way he is..

At least they have nothing for the people on the outside of the inside of the club..

If they're a "big bag of nothing" then why do you credit them with so many conspiracies?

Seems like that would be a "big bag of something", but hey, why would you bother to make sense?

MacGruder's penis (the root of his insecurities) in actual size:

8=D

alkemical
07-11-2011, 01:42 PM
The only thing I want to know about the masons, is if they actually know how to make STONES. ;)

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 01:46 PM
If they're a "big bag of nothing" then why do you credit them with so many conspiracies?

Seems like that would be a "big bag of something", but hey, why would you bother to make sense?

MacGruder's penis (the root of his insecurities) in actual size:

8=D

Wow..

Just when I thought you couldn't get any more pathetic.. more Freemason wisdom..

That's a 32nd Degree mason right there folks.. LOL

As I said in the post.. you are on the outside even though you are supposed to be a Freemason. In your section of the freemasons you do your little skits and learn your little geometry lessons and handshakes...

But the people who are in the real club deal with the big issues and secrets..

If you knew anything of value you wouldn't be wasting all our time with your little reindeer games..

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 01:48 PM
Wow..

Just when I thought you couldn't get any more pathetic.. more Freemason wisdom..

That's a 32nd Degree mason right there folks.. LOL

As I said in the post.. you are on the outside even though you are supposed to be a Freemason. In your section of the freemasons you do your little skits and learn your little geometry lessons and handshakes...

But the people who are in the real club deal with the big issues and secrets..

If you knew anything of value you wouldn't be wasting all our time with your little reindeer games..

So wait...

Are they a big bag of nothing now, because it seems like you just revised your statement?

Color me stunned that a MacGruder post completely contradicts his prior one!


























8=D

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 01:51 PM
Surprise Surprise.. TheRev finding an excuse to delude himself again.

"I reject your reality and substitute it with my own"

If you and your pals are never going to learn or do anything of value then are you really in the Freemasons?

are the Freemasons really you?

And now it's my fault for this lunacy?

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 01:57 PM
Surprise Surprise.. TheRev finding an excuse to delude himself again.

"I reject your reality and substitute it with my own"

If you and your pals are never going to learn or do anything of value then are you really in the Freemasons?

are the Freemasons really you?

And now it's my fault for this lunacy?

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/30/Tetris_failure.jpg

See thread title to discover person deluding themself

And I do **** of value all the time. Destroying you ITT, for example. Now other Maners know to never waste their time pondering your credibility. Public service is a major component of Freemasonry.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 01:57 PM
And now it's my fault for this lunacy?

ROFL!ROFL!ROFL!

Ha!Ha!Ha!

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

TheChamp24
07-11-2011, 02:07 PM
Because Tebow is better passer believe it or not.. AND he is far far more athletic and durable.

Bradford is actually the system QB. He only gets by on that system.. and that system doesn't work in the playoffs.

He likely will put up lots of numbers and wins in the regular season though. But it's fool's gold.. just like when he was in college.

Similar to Orton this season..

Tebow is not more athletic and durable than Bradford. You are an idiot if you think Bradford isn't athletic.
In no realm is Tebow a better passer than Bradford. That is just straight lunacy.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:07 PM
Wow.. your whole existence is a fantasy.. I've never seen anything like it.. It's fascinating really...

Serving the public = secret esoteric knowledge and shady bias towards fellow brothers and secret handshakes..

More delusions...

It's amazing what people will rationalize..

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 02:09 PM
Wow.. your whole existence is a fantasy.. I've never seen anything like it.. It's fascinating really...

Serving the public = secret esoteric knowledge and shady bias towards fellow brothers and secret handshakes..

More delusions...

It's amazing what people will rationalize..

Couldn't say it better myself.

On a side note, I'd like to offer my sincerest apologies for your inbred _ _ _ _ _ tree.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:12 PM
Tebow is not more athletic and durable than Bradford. You are an idiot if you think Bradford isn't athletic.
In no realm is Tebow a better passer than Bradford. That is just straight lunacy.

Then why did Tebow have a better YPA in the championship game?

Why should I think Bradford is athletic? He couldn't run at all and played garbage defenses in the BIG12. He was protected by the best O-line in college football and still got injured the 2 times he got hit..

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 02:30 PM
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1DwVovw6L3Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 02:31 PM
Then why did Tebow have a better YPA in the championship game?

Why should I think Bradford is athletic? He couldn't run at all and played garbage defenses in the BIG12. He was protected by the best O-line in college football and still got injured the 2 times he got hit..
How can he have the best O-line in college when he wasn't on a SEC team?

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 02:35 PM
Because Tebow is better passer believe it or not.. AND he is far far more athletic and durable.

Bradford is actually the system QB. He only gets by on that system.. and that system doesn't work in the playoffs.

He likely will put up lots of numbers and wins in the regular season though. But it's fool's gold.. just like when he was in college.

Similar to Orton this season..

So Tom Brady is a product of BB system and that's what made people want to pick Bradford so high right? Because of how well Brady plays in a system? Tom Brady is a system QB so explain away all of his playoff wins and championships. If Bradford is like Brady I think the Rams are in great shape and you just said so as well.

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 02:36 PM
How can he have the best O-line in college when he wasn't on a SEC team?

Exactly! IF all the best went to SEC as MacGruber stated, how can there be better in the Big 12?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:37 PM
Do you halfwits realize monkeys could post random pictures and videos like you tools constantly do?

But I know you haven't considered this because you just blindly follow what everyone else is doing..

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 02:39 PM
Do you halfwits realize monkeys could post random pictures and videos like you tools constantly do?

But I know you haven't considered this because you just blindly follow what everyone else is doing..

Well, since words escape you so easily, most figured you could relate to pictures much better.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 02:39 PM
Do you halfwits realize monkeys could post random pictures and videos like you tools constantly do?

But I know you haven't considered this because you just blindly follow what everyone else is doing..

Monkeys using youtube? What's next the gov using secret death rays in man made storms?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:42 PM
Exactly! IF all the best went to SEC as MacGruber stated, how can there be better in the Big 12?

I never said the SEC teams were always the best individual teams... I said they were the best conference..

Sam Bradford may have even had the best and Tebow still beat him..

That is also why Bradford McCoy and many others are overrated..

The elite SEC teams are at a disadvantage because they have more competition within their conference for the best players.. elite teams in other conferences get the lions share of the talented players in their conference.. AND they play weak teams with horrible defenses which lets them rest through the season.

BUT.. SEC teams do have the best individual players which gives them a big edge in championship games even though they may not have the most talent rich teams...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:43 PM
Monkeys using youtube? What's next the gov using secret death rays in man made storms?

LOOK what happens when they don't use pics and video.. LOL

yerner
07-11-2011, 02:44 PM
Anybody think we should pool some money and buy mcgrundle a helmet and drool cup? This guy shouldn't be outside on a leash without suitable protection.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:45 PM
So Tom Brady is a product of BB system and that's what made people want to pick Bradford so high right? Because of how well Brady plays in a system? Tom Brady is a system QB so explain away all of his playoff wins and championships. If Bradford is like Brady I think the Rams are in great shape and you just said so as well.

The Rams are only in great shape if they can get Bill Bellichick...

Brady is also a much better role player.. he was clutch in that system.. Bradford is not.. he gets injured against crap defenses in college..

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 02:45 PM
I never said the SEC teams were the best team... I said they were the best conference..

Sam Bradford may have even had the best team and Tebow still beat him..

That is also why Bradford McCoy and many others are overrated..

The elite SEC teams are at a disadvantage because they have more competition within their conference for the best players.. elite teams in other conferences get the lions share of the talented players in their conference.. AND they play weak teams with horrible defenses which lets them rest through the season.

BUT.. SEC teams do have the best individual players which gives them a big edge in championship games even though they may not have the most talent rich teams...

http://www.hostpublications.com/images/covers/backtracking-lg.jpg

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 02:48 PM
The Rams are only in great shape if they can get Bikll Bellichick...

Brady is also a much better role player.. he was clutch in that system.. Bradford is not.. he gets injured against crap defenses in college..

Well lucky for Bradford the NFL is so watered down with non SEC talent that he was able to take every snap his rookie season.

LOL at Texas having a crap D too.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:51 PM
http://www.hostpublications.com/images/covers/backtracking-lg.jpg

More pics.. surprise surprise.. show me where I said the SEC teams were ALWAYS the best individual teams.. I didn't.. I said they were far and away the best conference..

I said that other stars in other conferences were OVERRATED BECAUSE they were on such loaded teams in conferences with bad competition...

You don't even KNOW what you are arguing.. LOL

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 02:52 PM
More pics.. surprise surprise.. show me where I said the SEC teams were ALWAYS the best individual teams.. I didn't.. I said they were far and away the best conference..

I said that other stars in other conferences were OVERRATED BECAUSE they were on such loaded teams in conferences with bad competition...

You don't even KNOW what you are arguing.. LOL

Hilarious!

Lol, you still can't understand what anyone tells you.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:53 PM
Well lucky for Bradford the NFL is so watered down with non SEC talent that he was able to take every snap his rookie season.

LOL at Texas having a crap D too.

I didn't say Tevas had a crap D.. I said the majority of D in the BIG12 was crap.. LOL

Wow.. if you guys can't win a argument you just make up your own.. LOL

Strawman argument...

GreatBronco16
07-11-2011, 02:53 PM
Do you halfwits realize monkeys could post random pictures and videos like you tools constantly do?

Remember this the next time you want to post a bunch of youtube videos of some stupid ass people claiming the government controlled the weather which lead to the WTC towers getting hit by airplanes.:sunshine:

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:54 PM
Hilarious!

Lol, you still can't understand what anyone tells you.

More delusions... surprise surprise..

bowtown
07-11-2011, 02:56 PM
BUT.. SEC teams do have the best individual players which gives them a big edge in championship games even though they may not have the most talent rich teams...

FIRST-TEAM ALL-SEC -- OFFENSE 2006

TE Martrez Milner NFL Career: out of football.
TE Jacob Tamme NFL Career: Solid back-up in Indy.
OL Arron Sears NFL Career: out of football.
OL Zac Tubbs NFL Career: never played.
OL Tim Duckworth NFL Career: Never made the active roster now out of football.
OL Tony Ugoh NFL Career: Starter until recently
C Jonathan Luigs NFL Career: out of football
C Steve Rissler NFL Career: never played
WR Robert Meachem NFL Career: Starter
WR Dwayne Bowe NFL Career: Starter
WR Dallas Baker NFL Career: CFL player
QB JaMarcus Russell NFL Career: out of football
RB Darren McFadden NFL Career: Starter
RB Kenny Irons NFL Career: out of football

.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:56 PM
Remember this the next time you want to post a bunch of youtube videos of some stupid ass people claiming the government controlled the weather which lead to the WTC towers getting hit by airplanes.:sunshine:

A monkey could NOT do that because the internet is so full of disinformation...

That is the whole issue.. finding what is real and what isn't. That is why Youtube is flooded with hoaxed alien saucer videos.. I can even show you video of the government spreading disinfo about 9-11 with someone who worked for the people who made these directed energy weapons.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 02:59 PM
.

Do you realize you are supporting my argument.. Tebow was the most decorated college player ever and he was on the bench behind Kyle Freakin Orton all year.. and now people realize the error in that thinking... The same is true of all SEC players coming out of college.. they are undervalued the exact same way.. and likely suffer for it just the same.\

There is also the other side of it where SEC players are drafted high and have to go to terrible teams and suffer the fate of that...

So again.. the results don't mean much.. you would have to really examine each case.

bowtown
07-11-2011, 03:01 PM
Do you realize you are supporting my argument.. Tebow was the most decorated college player ever and he was on the bench behind Kyle Freakin Orton all year.. and now people realize the error in that thinking... The same is true of all SEC players coming out of college.. they are undervalued the exact same way.. and likely suffer for it just the same.\

There is also the other side of it where SEC players are drafted high and have to go to terrible teams and suffer the fate of that...

So again.. the results don't mean much.. you would have to really examine each case.

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1431/bangheadnl8.jpg

bowtown
07-11-2011, 03:03 PM
Do you realize you are supporting my argument.. Tebow was the most decorated college player ever and he was on the bench behind Kyle Freakin Orton all year.. and now people realize the error in that thinking... The same is true of all SEC players coming out of college.. they are undervalued the exact same way.. and likely suffer for it just the same.\

There is also the other side of it where SEC players are drafted high and have to go to terrible teams and suffer the fate of that...

So again.. the results don't mean much.. you would have to really examine each case.

So wait... are SEC players undervalued coming out of college or are they drafted high? You can't even get through a three sentence post without contradicting yourself.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:06 PM
There is a mixture of both.. but on a whole they are undervalued..

But also.. there are only so many SEC players.. this is another reason why the NFL is so watered down.. so they are undervalued and way way outnumbered.. Which explains why Tebow is performing better in the NFL than anyone thought he could.. especially running the ball.

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 03:06 PM
.. The same is true of all SEC players coming out of college.. they are undervalued the exact same way.. and likely suffer for it just the same.\

There is also the other side of it where SEC players are drafted high and have to go to terrible teams and suffer the fate of that...



You have to ask yourself, "So what is it MacGruber? Undervalued on draft day or overvalued and drafted too high? Only MacGruber can have it both ways.

There is a mixture of both.. but on a whole they are undervalued..

But also.. there are only so many SEC players.. this is another reason why the NFL is so watered down.. so they are undervalued and way way outnumbered.. Which explains why Tebow is performing better in the NFL than anyone thought he could.. especially running the ball.

I really wanted to just typing away on his statement but as I read it over and over, I am still baffled by it.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:06 PM
This one is good too.

Yes it was.. it still hasn't been refuted..

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:07 PM
I didn't say Tevas had a crap D.. I said the majority of D in the BIG12 was crap.. LOL

Wow.. if you guys can't win a argument you just make up your own.. LOL

Strawman argument...

Texas is one of the teams that HURT Bradford retard. You said that Bradford got hurt against crap D's.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:09 PM
I didn't say Tevas had a crap D.. I said the majority of D in the BIG12 was crap.. LOL

Wow.. if you guys can't win a argument you just make up your own.. LOL

Strawman argument...

The Rams are only in great shape if they can get Bill Bellichick...

Brady is also a much better role player.. he was clutch in that system.. Bradford is not.. he gets injured against crap defenses in college..

Right...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:10 PM
You have to ask yourself, "So what is it MacGruber? Undervalued on draft day or overvalued and drafted too high? Only MacGruber can have it both ways.

If you realize it can't be both you are brain dead.. as I said.. overall they are underrated.. but there are all kinds of weird individual situation.

Look at Cam Newton.. He was an SEC QB who WAS massively overrated in the SEC. It was just a fluke situation..

So there are no laws.. each case has to be examined on a individual bases.. but overall...

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:11 PM
Right...

Bradford didn't get injured against JUST Texas, numbnuts!

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:12 PM
http://fapit.net/imgs/560/lol.jpg

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:14 PM
This numbnuts TheRev can't even post pictures right.. LOL

All time epic fail.. LOL

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:14 PM
Bradford didn't get injured against JUST Texas, numbnuts!

I'm sure you can name the other team right?

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:17 PM
Even if you don't count everyone else in this thread it has still been refuted.

Wow.. I'm even spelling it out for you and you still can't get it.... you aren't thinking about the implications of what you are saying..

cmhargrove
07-11-2011, 03:18 PM
Just a message for people coming back to this thread.

Nothing new to see for the past 20 pages, don't bother scanning - save yourself the time.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:19 PM
I'm sure you can name the other team right?

Why does that matter? I knew it was a crap team.. It was some PAC10 team who has just as bad d as the BIG12 if not worse.. probably better though which is why Bradford was shocked to see a real D...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:20 PM
This numbnuts TheRev can't even post pictures right.. LOL

All time epic fail.. LOL

http://www.straferight.com/photopost/data/500/medium/double-facepalm.jpg

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:21 PM
Why does that matter? I knew it was a crap team.. It was some PAC10 team who has just as bad d as the BIG12 if not worse.. probably better though which is why Bradford was shocked to see a real D...

You're obviously a teenager by your complete lack of general education, but for the future of our species, I beg you not to reproduce. I'm certain no respectable woman would let you near her, but sadly there might be a crazy just like you out there somewhere.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:24 PM
You're obviously a teenager by your complete lack of general education, but for the future of our species, I beg you not to reproduce. I'm certain no respectable woman would let you near her, but sadly there might be a crazy just like you out there somewhere.

Look who is talking..

A 32nd degree Freemason grand doosh master who spends his time pic bombing threads all day...

If this is how you teach people to service humanity no wonder humanity is F'ed.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:25 PM
Why does that matter? I knew it was a crap team.. It was some PAC10 team who has just as bad d as the BIG12 if not worse.. probably better though which is why Bradford was shocked to see a real D...

Nope not a Pac 10 team. Do you know anything about college football before you spout out random dumb ass ****?

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:25 PM
Look who is talking..

A 32nd degree Freemason grand doosh master who spends his time pic bombing threads all day...

If this is how you teach people to service humanity no wonder humanity is F'ed.

See thread title.

broncocalijohn
07-11-2011, 03:27 PM
If MacGruber was to go back in time to the mid 70s , he would take Jim Jones word as gospel and be ready to follow him to Guyana. We, as time travelers, could show him the proof that all will be killed by Jim Jones, including himself. He will look at it, and tell about the 3 steps and then tell us about his fondness for purple koolaid.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:28 PM
Nope not a Pac 10 team. Do you know anything about college football before you spout out random dumb ass ****?

I knew Bradford wasn't injured by a decent D.. so what exactly is your point? Or is it like all of your posts - there is none...

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:28 PM
I knew Bradford wasn't injured by a decent D.. so what exactly is your point? Or is it like all of your posts - there is none...

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MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:29 PM
If MacGruber was to go back in time to the mid 70s , he would take Jim Jones word as gospel and be ready to follow him to New Guinea. We, as time travelers, could show him the proof that all will be killed by Jim Jones, including himself. He will look at it, and tell about the 3 steps and then tell us about his fondness for purple koolaid.

Pretty unbelievably ironic considering you and your fellow halfwits are blindly following someone who calls himself TheRev, is part of a "society with secrets" and fancies himself a DICKtator..

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:30 PM
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You post the most cliched **** I have sever seen.. do you even know you are a walking cliche?

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:30 PM
I knew Bradford wasn't injured by a decent D.. so what exactly is your point? Or is it like all of your posts - there is none...

The team that hurt him finished 11-2 and in the top 13 in 2009. You all ready proved you don't know who hurt him or how good that team is or wasn't. You just think he was hurt against some crap team which he wasn't. So figure out what team hurt him before you make claims like you know a damn thing about college football.

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:31 PM
You post the most cliched **** I have sever seen.. do you even know you are a walking cliche?


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DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:32 PM
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I could watch you post this all day Hilarious!

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:32 PM
See thread title.

That's right.. you fancy yourself the judge and jury.. reminds me of some secret society I have heard about whose members fancy their self as gods...

Dagmar
07-11-2011, 03:33 PM
30 pages...

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101117164221/uncyclopedia/images/9/96/Dance78.gif

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:34 PM
I bet Kaylore knows.

I bet he does as well ;)

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:35 PM
That's right.. you fancy yourself the judge and jury.. reminds me of some secret society I have heard about whose members fancy their self as gods...

Just like you've heard about 9-11 conspiracies, anti gravity and government weather control...

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MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:36 PM
The team that hurt him finished 11-2 and in the top 13 in 2009. You all ready proved you don't know who hurt him or how good that team is or wasn't. You just think he was hurt against some crap team which he wasn't. So figure out what team hurt him before you make claims like you know a damn thing about college football.

BWAAAHHAHAAH

BYU

OMG

Delusions run rampant here...

When Bradford was injured I was shocked he got owned by such a bad defense.. I had just forgotten which one it was.. you just proved it again..

BYU.. BWAAAHAHHAA

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:37 PM
30 pages...

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101117164221/uncyclopedia/images/9/96/Dance78.gif

Is that the Freemason Jig?

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:38 PM
BWAAAHHAHAAH

BYU

OMG

Delusions run rampant here...

Since your join date, at least.

You're as useful as a cock flavored lollipop.

Cito Pelon
07-11-2011, 03:40 PM
Just a message for people coming back to this thread.

Nothing new to see for the past 20 pages, don't bother scanning - save yourself the time.

I have to look to see what Rev is sniveling about this time.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:41 PM
Since your join date, at least.

You're as useful as a cock flavored lollipop.

Finally you have something to say about something you know about I am sure - your Freemason lollipops..

IS it true only men are allowed in Freemasonry? If so.. now we know why.. secret handshake indeed!

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:45 PM
Finally you have something to say about something you know about I am sure - your Freemason lollipops..

IS it true only men are allowed in Freemasonry? If so.. now we know why.. secret handshake indeed!

Yawn

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MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:45 PM
Never posted here under another name.. absolutely not..

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:46 PM
BWAAAHHAHAAH

BYU

OMG

Delusions run rampant here...

When Bradford was injured I was shocked he got owned by such a bad defense.. I had just forgotten which one it was.. you just proved it again..

BYU.. BWAAAHAHHAA

They finished 12th in the nation. I'm sure you have there D rank to back that claim up right??

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:46 PM
Have you ever posted here under a different username?

I had assumed this was the case because frankly, no one can be THIS stupid

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:49 PM
They finished 12th in the nation. I'm sure you have there D rank to back that claim up right??

That would all be groovy if college rankings meant anything.. it's like a Euro basketball team being ranked better than an NBA team when they don't even play NBA teams.. would that mean anything?

All college football teams play completely different levels of competition..

Well kind of.. the conferences outside of the SEC are more equal.. it's just the SEC that is so much better than the others top to bottom.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:50 PM
I had assumed this was the case because frankly, no one can be THIS stupid

So stupid you can't hang with me in an argument.. can't even attempt a response..

Me thinks the lady doth protesteth TOO MUCH!

epicSocialism4tw
07-11-2011, 03:50 PM
That would all be groovy if college rankings meant anything.. it's like a Euro basketball team being ranked better than an NBA team when they don't even play NBA teams.. would that mean anything?

All college football teams play completely different levels of competition..

Well kind of.. the conferences outside of the SEC are more equal.. it's just the SEC that is so much better than the others top to bottom.

Yeah, that's why they have been trying desperately to recruit Oklahoma and Texas for years.

TheChamp24
07-11-2011, 03:51 PM
Like seriously, I can't comprehend the overall level of stupidity in this thread.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:52 PM
Yeah, that's why they have been trying desperately to recruit Oklahoma and Texas for years.

Who has? What are you talking about?

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:53 PM
Who has? What are you talking about?

THE SEC

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:53 PM
So stupid you can't hang with me in an argument.. can't even attempt a response..

Me thinks the lady doth protesteth TOO MUCH!

The funny thing is that deep down you do realize you've been completely destroyed by EVERY poster in this thread... and every other thread... and in reality where your complete lack of self esteem has forced you to create conspiracy theories to cope with your own inadequacies because you can't accept responsibility for yourself.

It's a sickness, but I don't feel bad for you because it's just too funny.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:53 PM
Like seriously, I can't comprehend the overall level of stupidity in this thread.

So answer the question then.. why does Tebow look like a better runner in the NFL than in college?

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:54 PM
THE SEC

He's clearly such a fan he noticed... Ha!

TheReverend
07-11-2011, 03:56 PM
So answer the question then.. why does Tebow look like a better runner in the NFL than in college?

In YOUR words:

If a QB runs more per game their YPC is likely to go down.. if a QB runs less their YPC is likely to go up..

That was EXACTLY how Orton had a better YPC than Tebow and many of the Broncos runningbacks last season in games..

By that logic Orton is a better running QB than Tebow..

ULTIMATE FAIL.

MacGruder
07-11-2011, 03:56 PM
The funny thing is that deep down you do realize you've been completely destroyed by EVERY poster in this thread... and every other thread... and in reality where your complete lack of self esteem has forced you to create conspiracy theories to cope with your own inadequacies because you can't accept responsibility for yourself.

It's a sickness, but I don't feel bad for you because it's just too funny.

Project Much Rev?

Rev.. your bullying reeks of insecurity.. probably why you would join a club.. be part of a group.. be a follower..

You are especially disgruntled now because I have exposed you for what you are..

DBroncos4life
07-11-2011, 03:59 PM
He's clearly such a fan he noticed... Ha!

I don't think he knows anything about college football.