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Taco John
06-15-2011, 01:08 AM
Wicked!

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Doggcow
06-15-2011, 01:34 AM
If I still wasted my life on MMO's, this would be my choice.

Archer81
06-15-2011, 01:52 AM
I can already tell that Bioware is going to eat a vast majority of 2012 for me. ME3, The Old Republic and Dragon Age 3...

Good God I love vidjo games.

:Broncos:

Garcia Bronco
06-15-2011, 02:15 AM
Darth Malgus is bad ass. He also takes the Jedi Temple. There is video on it and he's also the main character in The Old Republic: Deceived

UberBroncoMan
06-15-2011, 02:44 AM
I can already tell that Bioware is going to eat a vast majority of 2012 for me. ME3, The Old Republic and Dragon Age 3...

Good God I love vidjo games.

:Broncos:

I'd scratch Dragon Age 3 off that list if it was released a mere year after Dragon Age 2. ME3 should be hot though, granted you're not going to play with exclusive companions from beginning to end like the first two games.

As for ToR. It's WoW with voice acting, different class leveling areas and of course...the Star Wars license. Don't expect this game to reinvent the wheel. Though, you can probably expect a more story driven game than you've experienced from past MMO's.

BTW, that Jedi from the into, Satele, is a direct decedent of Bastila Shan from the original Knights of the Old Republic...in all likelihood related to Revan as well. We all know Reven tapped that.

srphoenix
06-15-2011, 06:16 AM
well we at least know who should've made the 3 prequels instead of Lucas and his crap. That may have been the best intro movie I've ever seen. This might be the one mmo that I would start playing again, looks fantastic.

Grumps
06-15-2011, 06:36 AM
That was awesome. Will you have to pay a monthly fee to play?

TheReverend
06-15-2011, 07:01 AM
I plan on playing

Flex Gunmetal
06-15-2011, 07:40 AM
Giggity goo

TheReverend
06-15-2011, 07:50 AM
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Flex Gunmetal
06-15-2011, 08:01 AM
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hnnnnnnnngggg.

You sign up for the miscguild? There's like 100 members lol.

TheReverend
06-15-2011, 08:04 AM
hnnnnnnnngggg.

You sign up for the miscguild? There's like 100 members lol.

Na. I used to be one of the top WoW players (lol - I know, I just LOVE nerd games) so I'll play with those guys again. I just like seeing and completing all the content so playing with top US guilds is nice. Let me know if you want in though.

Flex Gunmetal
06-15-2011, 08:18 AM
Na. I used to be one of the top WoW players (lol - I know, I just LOVE nerd games) so I'll play with those guys again. I just like seeing and completing all the content so playing with top US guilds is nice. Let me know if you want in though.

I signed up but those clowns banned me for a post that wasn't mine. Apparently I threatened to kill some russians? lol. But I'll be in the guild.
I reregged as "beliedat".
I'm gonna pick this up for sure when it comes out. Gonna have to spend a sizeable amount upgrade for this and BF3.

TheReverend
06-15-2011, 08:27 AM
I signed up but those clowns banned me for a post that wasn't mine. Apparently I threatened to kill some russians? lol. But I'll be in the guild.
I reregged as "beliedat".
I'm gonna pick this up for sure when it comes out. Gonna have to spend a sizeable amount upgrade for this and BF3.

I grabbed a new video card for Cataclysm and ending up hating it and quitting so I should be good lol.

I love the misc but they're gonna blow bro.

Flex Gunmetal
06-15-2011, 08:30 AM
I grabbed a new video card for Cataclysm and ending up hating it and quitting so I should be good lol.

I love the misc but they're gonna blow bro.

Ya true. I haven't done endgame/raid stuff since AoC, which was avg. Stopped WoW after like 1.5 years, once lich king came out.
No release date for old republic, fuuu.

Garcia Bronco
06-15-2011, 08:48 AM
They've been developing it for almost 5 years. Get on with it.

BroncoFiend
06-15-2011, 08:49 AM
Looks really good, but it's weird how many of those scenes seemed to come directly from one of the star wars movies.

broncosteven
06-15-2011, 11:24 AM
well we at least know who should've made the 3 prequels instead of Lucas and his crap. That may have been the best intro movie I've ever seen. This might be the one mmo that I would start playing again, looks fantastic.

If they made this rather than the last 3 crappy movies I might have become an even bigger Sci Fi Geek!

Kaylore
06-15-2011, 11:30 AM
It's a video clip and shows nothing of the game play or how the actual game part is supposed to be. I'll reserve my excitement for when I see what I would be doing.

bronco militia
06-15-2011, 11:38 AM
no offense guys, but this looks as cheesy as the last three movies

enjolras
06-15-2011, 11:47 AM
no offense guys, but this looks as cheesy as the last three movies

I saw no sign of:

1) An annoying kid
2) A floppy eared gumby-wannabe (or teddy bears for that matter)
3) An emo-teen who's *really* upset cause like nobody respects him
4) The sith guy didn't scream "noooo" just before the other guy offed him

I really don't see the resemblance:)

bronco militia
06-15-2011, 12:07 PM
I saw no sign of:

1) An annoying kid
2) A floppy eared gumby-wannabe (or teddy bears for that matter)
3) An emo-teen who's *really* upset cause like nobody respects him
4) The sith guy didn't scream "noooo" just before the other guy offed him

I really don't see the resemblance:)


well yeah, that guy died.

anyway, I thought it was a ripoff off all six movies. I didn't see anything new here

Kaylore
06-15-2011, 01:29 PM
well yeah, that guy died.

anyway, I thought it was a ripoff off all six movies. I didn't see anything new here

It wasn't even a game. It was a CGI FMV. There's no there, there.

UberBroncoMan
06-15-2011, 02:06 PM
well yeah, that guy died.

anyway, I thought it was a ripoff off all six movies. I didn't see anything new here

That's kind of the mandate. Lucas actually has his hand in this game regardless of what people want to believe. This game is as big as a movie in terms of money, and brand reach. Not a surprise to hear identical lines corresponding with repetitive conclusions. The original trilogy were special. It had an actual dark nature to it. The problem with the new trilogy is that Lucas wanted to cater to everyone...including and especially little kiddies so he could indoctrinate them into the brand.

I may bash how ****ing unoriginal everything is; especially sine the original KotoR was so ****ing amazing...but baring some epic issues, I'll be buying this game too.

Willynowei
06-15-2011, 08:29 PM
That's kind of the mandate. Lucas actually has his hand in this game regardless of what people want to believe. This game is as big as a movie in terms of money, and brand reach. Not a surprise to hear identical lines corresponding with repetitive conclusions. The original trilogy were special. It had an actual dark nature to it. The problem with the new trilogy is that Lucas wanted to cater to everyone...including and especially little kiddies so he could indoctrinate them into the brand.

I may bash how ****ing unoriginal everything is; especially sine the original KotoR was so ****ing amazing...but baring some epic issues, I'll be buying this game too.

MMOs are far far bigger than movies

Willynowei
06-15-2011, 08:30 PM
If I still wasted my life on MMO's, this would be my choice.

100% agree with this.

I do enjoy reading about this stuff though, its awesome.

Taco John
06-15-2011, 09:00 PM
I loved the KOTOR stuff, but this, as an MMO, worries me. I'm already addicted to SC2, I don't need another video game addiction.

Kaylore
06-15-2011, 09:47 PM
I loved the KOTOR stuff, but this, as an MMO, worries me. I'm already addicted to SC2, I don't need another video game addiction.

My brother's hooked on SC2. I was a KOTOR fan as well, but all MMO's are the same to me. I think once we see how the game plays we'll know where they're going with it.

Garcia Bronco
06-15-2011, 09:56 PM
I've been reading the books. There are two that are good

Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
Old Republic: Disceived

There is a third book under way called

Old Republic: Revan

And Drew is writing it.

FireFly
06-15-2011, 10:06 PM
This will steal a HUGE market share away from WOW imo. It's going to be BIG. They're going to make millions.

Star Wars fans, KOTOR fans, MMO fans and those that were too scared to step into other MMOs will find themselves drawn to this game.

The only thing that could get in the way of WOW like success is... a bad product. If they take the time to test, test and test again this will be a huge success. If it's launched and falls over because of glitches and bugs people will be very, very unhappy.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-15-2011, 10:17 PM
Too bad its an MMO.

Could have been a badass single player RPG like Fallout 3.

Taco John
06-15-2011, 10:37 PM
I've been reading the books. There are two that are good

Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
Old Republic: Disceived

There is a third book under way called

Old Republic: Revan

And Drew is writing it.

Been a couple years since I've read any Star Wars books. I read Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and it fixed Star Wars for me completely. I know how people feel about a the prequels, but the Revenge of the Sith is a literature as far as I'm concerned. If anybody is a Star Wars fan, and they haven't read that book, they're doing themselves a great disservice.

I guess I haven't been paying attention, because I didn't know there were any Old Republic books out. Sounds interesting!

UberBroncoMan
06-15-2011, 10:47 PM
If you liked KotoR throw that out the window. This is an MMO not a Single Player RPG. You'll have fetch quests, escort quests, collection quests, etc. The difference is you'll arrive at culmination points where you'll get to make "decisions," that are supposed to influence how future missions play out.

Luckily nothing can take KotoR away, so it will always be an amazing playthrough.

I want very badly for ToR to be an amazing game that revolutionized the leveling experience so it's not a grind, but I'm not going to get all my hopes caught up in that thought with what's been seen.

UberBroncoMan
06-15-2011, 10:49 PM
Been a couple years since I've read any Star Wars books. I read Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and it fixed Star Wars for me completely. I know how people feel about a the prequels, but the Revenge of the Sith is a literature as far as I'm concerned. If anybody is a Star Wars fan, and they haven't read that book, they're doing themselves a great disservice.

I guess I haven't been paying attention, because I didn't know there were any Old Republic books out. Sounds interesting!

You should read the Darth Bane series. It's dark as ****. Drew writes them too.

extralife
06-16-2011, 01:46 AM
a bizarro world where people are actually interested in this thing

Pseudofool
06-16-2011, 01:49 AM
Bioware has really downgraded their aesthetic in recent years. For those that appreciated the gritty, emotional reality of KOTOR, be ready for a much more stream-lined, easy-to-get-into experience. I felt both ME2 and DA2 were steps back as far as what Bioware did well, story, chacters, and making gameplay meaningful--that's long gone, I'm afraid.

That said, Deus X: revolution is worth checking out. And, of course, Witcher 2 if you already haven't.

Eventually, these companies that succeeeded with making games for mature gamers will come back. As cable (not just premium) TV eventually buckled to good writing and a quality product, gaming publications will too, even if limited. (Though I might not care anymore.)

UberBroncoMan
06-16-2011, 01:57 AM
Bioware has really downgraded their aesthetic in recent years. For those that appreciated the gritty, emotional reality of KOTOR, be ready for a much more stream-lined, easy-to-get-into experience. I felt both ME2 and DA2 were steps back as far as what Bioware did well, story, chacters, and making gameplay meaningful--that's long gone, I'm afraid.

That said, Deus X: revolution is worth checking out. And, of course, Witcher 2 if you already haven't.

Eventually, these companies that succeeeded with making games for mature gamers will come back. As cable (not just premium) TV eventually buckled to good writing and a quality product, gaming publications will too, even if limited. (Though I might not care anymore.)

If BioWare keeps the **** up since EA bought em out, Bethesda will be the last great Western RPG developer. I honestly think Mass Effect 3 will be fine though.

As for ToR. People need to understand that the team making it is not the one that made the original game, they didn't do Mass Effect, or Dragon Age: Origins. Sure a few people in the team did, like their creative director, etc. But that's a handful of guys.

BioWare Austin in large was recruited from the ground up and is made up of cannibalized teams from games like Tabula Rasa and Warhammer Online. Austin is the hub of MMO development in the US, hence, why the studio was built there. Tons of people to hire, as well as some to poach.

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2011, 04:29 AM
You should read the Darth Bane series. It's dark as ****. Drew writes them too.

Yep...I have all 3 in hardback for my library.

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2011, 04:33 AM
Been a couple years since I've read any Star Wars books. I read Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and it fixed Star Wars for me completely. I know how people feel about a the prequels, but the Revenge of the Sith is a literature as far as I'm concerned. If anybody is a Star Wars fan, and they haven't read that book, they're doing themselves a great disservice.

I guess I haven't been paying attention, because I didn't know there were any Old Republic books out. Sounds interesting!

'Desceived' is based on the e3 2009 Old Republic trailer. Which also has Malgus in it but after Shan ****s him up. She becomes Grand Master of the Jedi Order.

DrFate
06-16-2011, 06:42 AM
It's a video clip and shows nothing of the game play or how the actual game part is supposed to be. I'll reserve my excitement for when I see what I would be doing.

I wish they'd make these video trailers into a series/movies rather than the tripe we've seen on screen (Clone Wars on CN is good, but these clips are better)

And yes, the gameplay looks nothing like these clips

Willynowei
06-16-2011, 09:29 AM
I loved the KOTOR stuff, but this, as an MMO, worries me. I'm already addicted to SC2, I don't need another video game addiction.

Speaking of SC2, Zerg is now almost universally considered the strongest race. Funny because you were QQing about the race after the most recent patch, and I was telling you that we should wait a few months.

These days I get pretty annoyed at the fact that a ling roach all in that takes absolutely no skill or practice can bust a near perfect 3 gate expand on just about any map.

Played a top rated master the other day, and his only strategy is a hatch cancel into roach rush. I mean, seriously?? About as bad as the people who cannon rush into GM.

TheChamp24
06-16-2011, 09:29 AM
This will steal a HUGE market share away from WOW imo. It's going to be BIG. They're going to make millions.

Star Wars fans, KOTOR fans, MMO fans and those that were too scared to step into other MMOs will find themselves drawn to this game.

The only thing that could get in the way of WOW like success is... a bad product. If they take the time to test, test and test again this will be a huge success. If it's launched and falls over because of glitches and bugs people will be very, very unhappy.

lol. I highly doubt it will steal a HUGE market share from WoW. People keep on saying that about all these games and they all don't even come close to WoW in terms of subscribers.
Blizzard continues to pump out new expansion packs for WoW, people keep on playing. To me though, they need to finally finish WoW and come out with something else.
Heck, Star Wars already had a MMO, Star Wars Galaxies and that failed miserably. Final Fantasy has another MMO, and that isn't exactly coming close to WoW numbers.

Reason why WoW is so popular? Casuals can play it easily and you don't have to invest a ton of time all day to get anywhere.

I have reservations about this though because to me its difficult making characters unique in this type of MMO. Others, you have a warrior, rogue, hunter, cleric, mage, etc. What do you have in Star Wars? 3 types?

TheReverend
06-16-2011, 10:26 AM
lol. I highly doubt it will steal a HUGE market share from WoW. People keep on saying that about all these games and they all don't even come close to WoW in terms of subscribers.
Blizzard continues to pump out new expansion packs for WoW, people keep on playing. To me though, they need to finally finish WoW and come out with something else.
Heck, Star Wars already had a MMO, Star Wars Galaxies and that failed miserably. Final Fantasy has another MMO, and that isn't exactly coming close to WoW numbers.

Reason why WoW is so popular? Casuals can play it easily and you don't have to invest a ton of time all day to get anywhere.

I have reservations about this though because to me its difficult making characters unique in this type of MMO. Others, you have a warrior, rogue, hunter, cleric, mage, etc. What do you have in Star Wars? 3 types?

Convo from my friends that are more into this than I am:

Tyrone wrote:
So my understanding of the Sith,

Sith Warrior: Marauder (Tank/dps), Juggernaut (Fury Warrior)

Sith Inquisitor: Sorcerer (Healer/dps), Assassin (tank/dps)

Imperial Agent: Operative (Healer/dps), Sniper (Ranged Death)

Bounty Hunter: Power Tech (Tank/dps), Mercenary (dps/healer)

I was just looking at all this today and from what it looks like they aren't doing it exactly like wow. It seems like it will be the class then 2 subdivisions then each of those divisions will have 3 different trees you can choose from. From the descriptions it seems all off the specs can dps but a few of them can also tank or heal like the 2 of you said.

Seems like there's more versatility. Plus if they implement multiple specs like WoW then it should be real fun exploring the potential of your class.

Yes there are 6 specs per class the way they are doing it

And then exploration into this link:

http://www.swtor.com/info/systems/advanced-classes

TerrElway
06-16-2011, 10:42 PM
Been a couple years since I've read any Star Wars books. I read Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and it fixed Star Wars for me completely. I know how people feel about a the prequels, but the Revenge of the Sith is a literature as far as I'm concerned. If anybody is a Star Wars fan, and they haven't read that book, they're doing themselves a great disservice.

I guess I haven't been paying attention, because I didn't know there were any Old Republic books out. Sounds interesting!

Same here Taco. The ones written in the 90's were pretty decent but they lost me with the New Jedi Order and Han and Leia's kids and all that bullsh*t. The series with the Yuzhan Vong as the baddies was the last one I read and it was decent. May have to try these new ones. May have to find the ROTS novelization and read that one too. I actually thought that film fits with the first 3. They should have started the new trilogy there and had the other two movies be the Clone Wars and Vader hunting down the Jedi. Oh well, when I develop an original idea, execute it and make it a social phenomena as well as revolutionize filmaking, then I can use my ideas to do what I want and listen to all the nerds tell me how I raped their childhood.

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2011, 10:48 PM
Same here Taco. The ones written in the 90's were pretty decent but they lost me with the New Jedi Order and Han and Leia's kids and all that bullsh*t. The series with the Yuzhan Vong as the baddies was the last one I read and it was decent. May have to try these new ones. May have to find the ROTS novelization and read that one too. I actually thought that film fits with the first 3. They should have started the new trilogy there and had the other two movies be the Clone Wars and Vader hunting down the Jedi. Oh well, when I develop an original idea, execute it and make it a social phenomena as well as revolutionize filmaking, then I can use my ideas to do what I want and listen to all the nerds tell me how I raped their childhood.

Get all three of the Darth Bane books.

Taco John
06-16-2011, 11:19 PM
Speaking of SC2, Zerg is now almost universally considered the strongest race.



:rofl:

Are you high man? In what parallel universe is Zerg now "universally" considered the strongest race? I don't want to derail this thread, but that's a pretty good laugh.

Zerg is better off, finally, after the last patch that buffed infestors and nerfed the 4gate, but nowhere are they "universally" considered the strongest race.

By the way - the Roach/Speedling build is supposed to bust the 3 gate expand. That's it's purpose. MC showed it's counter at MLG using a 3 gate stargate expand build that quite effectively neutralizes the Roach Ling opener.

Taco John
06-16-2011, 11:41 PM
Get all three of the Darth Bane books.

I'm going to check that out. Drew Karpyshyn sounds like a talented Star Wars writer.

Likewise, I'd recommend anything by Matthew Stover. He's got a real feel for the universe.

Willynowei
06-17-2011, 05:20 AM
:rofl:

Are you high man? In what parallel universe is Zerg now "universally" considered the strongest race? I don't want to derail this thread, but that's a pretty good laugh.

Zerg is better off, finally, after the last patch that buffed infestors and nerfed the 4gate, but nowhere are they "universally" considered the strongest race.

By the way - the Roach/Speedling build is supposed to bust the 3 gate expand. That's it's purpose. MC showed it's counter at MLG using a 3 gate stargate expand build that quite effectively neutralizes the Roach Ling opener.

God you're so biased.

For sure, the metagame has shifted in their favor tremendously, it is acknowledged they now have the upper hand in both matchups.

roach ling is not supposed to bust 3 gate expand because 3 gate expand is like a 20 hatch, its supposed to be safe. Toss cannot scout early game at all, 3 gate stargate only works cause its MC overpowering the opponent.

Its been shown that at 7:45 an economic stargate fails to defend in the GSL team league matches. 3 gate stargate is not an economic build at all btw, it is an extra safe build that creates a gambling situation for the toss player.

Do you understand the dynamics of early game scouting in Zerg related matchups? speedlings make it impossible for information gathering before 8 minutes, do you understand the indications of that?

ElwayMD
06-17-2011, 05:52 AM
Can't wait for this to come out so I can finally quit WoW. Star Wars galaxies was such a crappy MMO, I'm glad Bioware is doing this. Bioware kicks ass in making RPGs and the fact that your actions lead to story lines opening and closing really has me geeked.

Taco John
06-17-2011, 11:39 AM
For sure, the metagame has shifted in their favor tremendously, it is acknowledged they now have the upper hand in both matchups.

Acknowledged by who? What are you talking about? Zerg doesn't have the upper hand in either matchup. Both Terran and Protoss can still apply early pressure to great effect. If you're losing to zerg, it's because you're letting them get comfortable on 3 or more bases without any amount of early pressure.



roach ling is not supposed to bust 3 gate expand because 3 gate expand is like a 20 hatch, its supposed to be safe. Toss cannot scout early game at all, 3 gate stargate only works cause its MC overpowering the opponent.

I'll bust every 3 gate expand with roach-ling. It's perfect timing for that rush. I'm not sure why you think it's supposed to be safe. Toss can easily scout early roach ling. Just look for the gas and the pool at 14, and do what Toss always does: just 4 gate.


Its been shown that at 7:45 an economic stargate fails to defend in the GSL team league matches. 3 gate stargate is not an economic build at all btw, it is an extra safe build that creates a gambling situation for the toss player.


Maybe in the GSL. On the ladder though, nobody is as good as MC.


Do you understand the dynamics of early game scouting in Zerg related matchups? speedlings make it impossible for information gathering before 8 minutes, do you understand the indications of that?

There's a probe in my base nearly every game, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. It's easy for Protoss to scout roach ling. If you're missing it, that's on you.

Willynowei
06-17-2011, 01:04 PM
Acknowledged by who? What are you talking about? Zerg doesn't have the upper hand in either matchup. Both Terran and Protoss can still apply early pressure to great effect. If you're losing to zerg, it's because you're letting them get comfortable on 3 or more bases without any amount of early pressure.





I'll bust every 3 gate expand with roach-ling. It's perfect timing for that rush. I'm not sure why you think it's supposed to be safe. Toss can easily scout early roach ling. Just look for the gas and the pool at 14, and do what Toss always does: just 4 gate.





Maybe in the GSL. On the ladder though, nobody is as good as MC.




There's a probe in my base nearly every game, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. It's easy for Protoss to scout roach ling. If you're missing it, that's on you.

Dude, i can't even argue with this you're just wrong on almost every point.

1.) you can't 4 gate a competent 14 pool.
2.) the fact that you say every toss 4 gates indicates you have no idea what the hell you're talking about -4 gate is dead vs. good zergs
3.) the problem is your 4 lings pop and you can go almost anywhere from there
4.) 3 gate expand was always safe, the delay caused a hallucination timing delay, no scouting.
5.) it is impossible to scout roach ling all in before the zerg cuts drones cause it looks the same as standard.

finally. A perfect 3 gate expand holds a roach ling all in, but its hard and doesn't work on all maps. THe fact that you say you can bust any 3 gate expand with roach ling all in indicates to me that you play vs. sucky protoss players.

The 3 gate expand was created to mash out entirely defensive troops - early sentries with no offensive ability, to give the protoss the guarantee that they can safely expand between 5:55 and 6:20. After the WG nerf, this is no longer safe at that timing, and any later, the zerg out masses. Ontop of that toss cannot properly scout until hallu finishes at around the 8:30 mark.

My gamer profile is under the email address: willyallthewei@gmail.com

If you want we can play this out and I'll show you why a proper roach ling all in is undefendable and unscoutable without gambling.