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baja
06-14-2011, 07:30 AM
http://youtu.be/rixyrCNVVGA

Requiem
06-14-2011, 07:35 AM
Mexican citizen, what are you doing to stop the Zetas Cartel from kidnapping children for twenty bucks a head?

Requiem
06-14-2011, 07:47 AM
Try again Alkoholical.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 07:57 AM
Try again Alkoholical.

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(want to try this game still?)

alkemical
06-14-2011, 08:04 AM
http://youtu.be/rixyrCNVVGA

California’s largest for-profit health insurer, Anthem Blue Cross, is expected to raise premiums by 30 to 39 percent on an unknown number of its 800,000 members. The announcement isn’t sitting well with a wide range of people — from government officials to Anthem members.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius demanded that the insurer reveal how much they stand to profit from the rate hike in a to the company earlier this week.

An inquiry is also being launched by California Insurance Commissioner Steven Poizner. While the increase doesn’t require state approval, he wants to ensure that it abides by state regulation and 70 percent of income from premiums will be directed to medical costs.

A video released today by Sick For Profit includes an interview with an dissatisfied Anthem member and a look at how the some of the company’s money is being spent on compensation and on lobbyists in Washington, D.C.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:10 AM
I will when you stop molesting kids.

(want to try this game still?)

Keep fighting the system alternatively, it is noble work. Lol.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:11 AM
Sucks for those people. My insurance rocks.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 08:13 AM
Keep fighting the system alternatively, it is noble work. Lol.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxociMEdWsAQeVWtqGT6CzvzECoZtHG VgT5OuEhQGByRcHZpVI

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:18 AM
That is one messed up picture. You just made me sick, and you didn't profit.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 08:20 AM
That is one messed up picture. You just made me sick, and you didn't profit.

Sure I did: Schadenfreude

baja
06-14-2011, 08:20 AM
Mexican citizen, what are you doing to stop the Zetas Cartel from kidnapping children for twenty bucks a head?

Nice approach to a very serious problem for YOU.

"Hey! Look over there Requiem, while we poison you and your family via the food you pay for."

It's people like you that make it possible for the coperate world to do this to you.

Most 1st world countries do not allow what the US does relative to the food supply but that is of no concern to you right.

The USA is number 1 in the world in one thing - CANCER - THE USA HAS THE HIGHEST RATES OF CANCER IN THE WORLD!

baja
06-14-2011, 08:24 AM
Mexican citizen, what are you doing to stop the Zetas Cartel from kidnapping children for twenty bucks a head?

MANY BRAVE SOULS DIED TO GIVE YOU THE COUNTRY YOU INHERITED - TO BAD YOU ARE UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO CONTINUE THE VIGILANCE.

GreatBronco16
06-14-2011, 08:24 AM
But are we still safer in our own streets here in the states? I mean, that's all I care about.:approve:

alkemical
06-14-2011, 08:24 AM
Nice approach to a very serious problem for YOU.

"Hey! Look over there Requiem, while we poison you and your family via the food you pay for."

It's people like you that make it possible for the coperate world to do this to you.

Most 1st world countries do not allow what the US does relative to the food supply but that is of no concern to you right.

The USA is number 1 in the world in one thing - CANCER - THE USA HAS THE HIGHEST RATES OF CANCER IN THE WORLD!


Did you have your meat-glue today Baja?


www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss_b-dRIOOg

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/food/meat-glue-or-how-to-make-a-filet-mignon-out-of-stew-meat-2469917

Meat Glue: Or how to make a filet mignon out of stew meat.

It has recently come to my attention that a substance called transglutaminase (i.e. meat glue) has been used in the food industry for many years in order to trick us into thinking the food we eat is of a better quality.

According to Wiki, meat glue "...is produced by Streptoverticillium mobaraense fermentation in commercial quantities or extracted from animal blood, and is used in a variety of processes, including the production of processed meat and fish products. It can be used as a binding agent to improve the texture of protein-rich foods such as surimi or ham." (Surimi is a fish used to make imitation crab meat. Suprise! There's animal blood extract in your crab!)

"Transglutaminase can be used in these applications:

* Improving texture of emulsified meat products, such as sausages and hot dogs.
* Binding different meat parts into a larger ones ("portion control"), such as in restructured steaks
* Improving the texture of low-grade meat such as so-called "PSE meat" (pale, soft, and exudative meat, whose characteristics are attributed to stress and a rapid postmortem pH decline)
* Making milk and yogurt creamier (seriously??? there's pig blood extract in my yogurt???)
* Making noodles firmer"

How to spot a meat-glued steak - this video is not for the faint of heart

Meat glue is banned in the EU, but in the US, the FDA classifies it under GRAS (generally recognized as safe). Transglutaminase is not required to be posted on the ingredients list.

So the next time I order a steak at a restaurant, I will raise holy hell if they are unable to tell me if my steak was made with meat glue. Then again, how can I truly believe them, if I don't see it with my own eyes? According to the video above, it is impossible to tell the difference between a cooked, meat-glued steak, and a cooked, non-meat-glued steak.

baja
06-14-2011, 08:26 AM
Did you have your meat-glue today Baja?

Actually I'm on day 19 of a fresh juice fast.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 08:27 AM
Actually I'm on day 19 of a fresh juice fast.

How long yet, till you're done? :D

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:33 AM
Shut the **** up Baja.

Everyone here is sick of your granduer and telling us how we do or don't live our lives the right way.

Why aren't you here fighting the "good" fight?

Why cop out and leave?

I eat fresh fruits and veggies. I stay low on carbs and sodium. I spend more money for organic goods from a local shop of people I know. I can't eat most of the food people here do because my kidney disease doesn't process crap well.

I manage myself, help others and do what I can. I do well for myself.

I choose the battles I know I can win for myself snd those dearest to me.

Sorry, but I'm not gonna piss on America here or myself.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 08:36 AM
Baja,

here's a cool article on farmpunk:

http://technoccult.net/archives/2011/03/16/the-rise-of-farmpunk/

Mr. Jones, 30, and his wife, Alicia, 27, are among an emerging group of people in their 20s and 30s who have chosen farming as a career. Many shun industrial, mechanized farming and list punk rock, Karl Marx and the food journalist Michael Pollan as their influences. The Joneses say they and their peers are succeeding because of Oregon’s farmer-foodie culture, which demands grass-fed and pasture-raised meats. [...]

The problem, the young farmers say, is access to land and money to buy equipment. Many new to farming also struggle with the basics.

In Eugene, Ore., Kasey White and Jeff Broadie of Lonesome Whistle Farm are finishing their third season of cultivating heirloom beans with names like Calypso, Jacob’s Cattle and Dutch Ballet.

They have been lauded — and even consulted — by older farmers nearby for figuring out how to grow beans in a valley dominated by grass seed farmers.

But finding mentors has been difficult. There is a knowledge gap that has been referred to as “the lost generation” — people their parents’ age may farm but do not know how to grow food. The grandparent generation is no longer around to teach them.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:37 AM
But are we still safer in our own streets here in the states? I mean, that's all I care about.:approve:

The irony of it all was that he was preaching security and safety in Mexico, and about a half a dozen legal cases came across my desk dealing with child abduction and trafficking through Latin America, but mostly within Mexico in the past two weeks.

FunnyBot says, Awkward!

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:39 AM
good thing my mom and grandparents taught me good fsrming and gardening techniques. Too bad my dads dad died early. Woulda loved to raise horses woooo.

baja
06-14-2011, 08:41 AM
But are we still safer in our own streets here in the states? <b> I mean, that's all I care about.:approve:

Number of Americans dying of cancer per year = 500,000 (many preventable with better food choices)

Number of people killed in Mexico by drug cartels per year = 34,612



* How widespread is cancer?

It is estimated that one out of three persons will have cancer in their lifetimes. About one in six persons will die of cancer. No one knows the exact number of new cancer cases diagnosed in the U.S. each year because no nationwide cancer registry exists. We do know that about 500,000 cancer deaths occur annually in the U.S. Cancer is the second leading cause of death after heart disease. (Watch the vid in the OP to see how many are caused by processed food.)

* http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=deaths+per+year+in+Mexico+by+drug+cartels&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 08:52 AM
Number of Americans dying of cancer per year = 500,000 (many preventable with better food choices)


* How widespread is cancer?

It is estimated that one out of three persons will have cancer in their lifetimes. About one in six persons will die of cancer. No one knows the exact number of new cancer cases diagnosed in the U.S. each year because no nationwide cancer registry exists. We do know that about 500,000 cancer deaths occur annually in the U.S. Cancer is the second leading cause of death after heart disease. (Watch the vid in the OP to see how many are caused by processed food.)

Do you have a link to legitimate research that proves this point? I'd like to read it if you do because I'm not watching an 18 minute video of a woman with no scientific, medical or nutritional qualifications talking about this point.

Bronco Yoda
06-14-2011, 08:53 AM
http://youtu.be/rixyrCNVVGA

Good video and a very important topic. Thanks for posting this.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:54 AM
A minute portion of cancer issues in the United States are due to food intake.

and that number of deaths is grossly underreported, but we all know that.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:55 AM
but yes I wish there were better regulations on food and I wish more ppez eated the rights way. But if fatty mcfats wants six quarter pounders a day, she can have em. Her life, herr choice.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 08:57 AM
Baja, give us the top ten cancers that kill in America and please report on how, and to what magnitude, food processing and intake have on them.

thank you in advance.

but I know you will not do it.

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 09:02 AM
but yes I wish there were better regulations on food and I wish more ppez eated the rights way. But if fatty mcfats wants six quarter pounders a day, she can have em. Her life, herr choice.

Agree.

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 09:04 AM
Baja, give us the top ten cancers that kill in America and please report on how, and to what magnitude, food processing and intake have on them.

thank you in advance.

but I know you will not do it.

The only one that I know of off the top of my head that actually has research supporting food intake (though it has nothing to do with processed foods) as a risk factor for developing a specific cancer is the link between high red meat diets and colorectal cancer.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 09:08 AM
Even research that shows those links, almost by a unanimous margin, saw it is a slow contributor and developing agent.

I'm also not stupid enough to believe welness in one's life is based just on ohysical nature and demands.

sorry for typos, I'm on my pre.

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 09:13 AM
Even research that shows those links, almost by a unanimous margin, saw it is a slow contributor and developing agent.

I'm also not stupid enough to believe welness in one's life is based just on ohysical nature and demands.

sorry for typos, I'm on my pre.

Absolutely.

I guess at least it won't hurt people to believe the BS that's being spouted here and will probably be beneficial if they truly start eating healthier foods as a result. I just don't get why someone has to think that they are going to get cancer from their food before they start making healthier decisions.

But these are the same people that villainized MSG completely despite its only real problem being that SOME people MAY have a negative reaction to it.

broncocalijohn
06-14-2011, 10:01 AM
Actually I'm on day 19 of a fresh juice fast.

Then you start your sun ray diet?

baja
06-14-2011, 10:04 AM
Do you have a link to legitimate research that proves this point? I'd like to read it if you do because I'm not watching an 18 minute video of a woman with no scientific, medical or nutritional qualifications talking about this point.

I would think you would be concerned enough to do your own research.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:04 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319562/McDonalds-Happy-Meal-bought-Sally-Davies-shows-sign-mould-6-months.html

Looking almost as fresh as the day it was bought, this McDonald's Happy Meal is in fact a staggering six months old.

Photographed every day for the past half a year by Manhattan artist Sally Davies the kids meal of fries and burger is without a hint of mould or decay.

In a work entitled The Happy Meal Project, Mrs Davies, 54, has charted the seemingly indestructible fast food meals progress as it refuses to yield to the forces of nature.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319562/McDonalds-Happy-Meal-bought-Sally-Davies-shows-sign-mould-6-months.html#ixzz1PGr9EJWj


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/21/article-1319562-0B90CC72000005DC-891_634x471.jpg


6 months and it doesn't decompose? Blech.

baja
06-14-2011, 10:08 AM
Baja, give us the top ten cancers that kill in America and please report on how, and to what magnitude, food processing and intake have on them.

thank you in advance.

but I know you will not do it.

You're damn right I won't do it. I gave you a heads up on a very important issue if you are to stupid to do some research on the matter so be it!

Over the years I have linked dozens od sites on health issues and how Americans are being violated because they allow it.

Just read this thread to see the apathy.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:08 AM
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/how-to-make-oatmeal-wrong/

The oatmeal and McDonald’s story broke late last year, when Mickey D’s, in its ongoing effort to tell us that it’s offering “a selection of balanced choices” (and to keep in step with arch-rival Starbucks) began to sell the cereal. Yet in typical McDonald’s fashion, the company is doing everything it can to turn oatmeal into yet another bad choice. (Not only that, they’ve made it more expensive than a double-cheeseburger: $2.38 per serving in New York.) “Cream” (which contains seven ingredients, two of them actual dairy) is automatically added; brown sugar is ostensibly optional, but it’s also added routinely unless a customer specifically requests otherwise. There are also diced apples, dried cranberries and raisins, the least processed of the ingredients (even the oatmeal contains seven ingredients, including “natural flavor”).

A more accurate description than “100 percent natural whole-grain oats,” “plump raisins,” “sweet cranberries” and “crisp fresh apples” would be “oats, sugar, sweetened dried fruit, cream and 11 weird ingredients you would never keep in your kitchen.”

Since we know there are barely any rules governing promotion of foods, one might wonder how this compares to real oatmeal, besides being 10 times as expensive. Some will say that it tastes better, but that’s because they’re addicted to sickly sweet foods, which is what this bowlful of wholesome is.

The aspect one cannot argue is nutrition: Incredibly, the McDonald’s product contains more sugar than a Snickers bar and only 10 fewer calories than a McDonald’s cheeseburger or Egg McMuffin. (Even without the brown sugar it has more calories than a McDonald’s hamburger.)

The bottom-line question is, “Why?” Why would McDonald’s, which appears every now and then to try to persuade us that it is adding “healthier” foods to its menu, take a venerable ingredient like oatmeal and turn it into expensive junk food? Why create a hideous concoction of 21 ingredients, many of them chemical and/or unnecessary? Why not try, for once, to keep it honest?

I asked them this, via e-mail: “Why could you not make oatmeal with nothing more than real oats and plain water, and offer customers a sweetener or two (honey, the only food on earth that doesn’t spoil, would seem a natural fit for this purpose), a packet of mixed dried fruit, and half-and-half or — even better — skim milk?”

Their answer, via e-mail and through a spokesperson (FMO is “fruit and maple oatmeal”): “Customers can order FMO with or without the light cream, brown sugar and the fruit. Our menu is entirely customizable by request with our ‘Made for You’ platform that has been in place since the late 90s.”

GreatBronco16
06-14-2011, 10:09 AM
Number of Americans dying of cancer per year = 500,000 (many preventable with better food choices)

Number of people killed in Mexico by drug cartels per year = 34,612



* How widespread is cancer?

It is estimated that one out of three persons will have cancer in their lifetimes. About one in six persons will die of cancer. No one knows the exact number of new cancer cases diagnosed in the U.S. each year because no nationwide cancer registry exists. We do know that about 500,000 cancer deaths occur annually in the U.S. Cancer is the second leading cause of death after heart disease. (Watch the vid in the OP to see how many are caused by processed food.)

* http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=deaths+per+year+in+Mexico+by+drug+cartels&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=


I'll be sure to keep a better eye out on the cancer running rampart in the streets here in Bama.

Meanwhile, you're comparing cancer deaths in the states to people being killed by drug cartells in Mexico? What's next, the number of people in the states dying from HIV verses the amount of people being the victim of a hit and run in Mexico?

baja
06-14-2011, 10:12 AM
I'll be sure to keep a better eye out on the cancer running rampart in the streets here in Bama.

Meanwhile, you're comparing cancer deaths in the states to people being killed by drug cartells in Mexico? What's next, the number of people in the states dying from HIV verses the amount of people being the victim of a hit and run in Mexico?

I'm comparing the two governments dereliction of duty in safe guarding there citizenry. Both are guilty.

But at least Mexico is trying.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 10:12 AM
I would think you would be concerned enough to do your own research.

The burden of proof would be on you.

Another cop out, like the violence thread.

Make a statement, but unable to articulate it anymore than "face value."

Got that research on America's top ten cancers and food's link to them done yet?

Isn't it important enough for you!?

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:13 AM
http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/food-science/princeton-proves-high-fructose-corn-syrup-woes-once-for-all-112003

The Princeton researchers had been studying not only side effects of high fructose corn syrup, but how your body reacts when it's ingested. They discovered that rats which had access to high fructose corn syrup gained significantly more weight than those with access to basic table sugar, even when their overall caloric intake was the same.

They did two studies and here are a few excerpts from their findings:

The first experiment — male rats given water sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup in addition to a standard diet of rat chow gained much more weight than male rats that received water sweetened with table sugar, or sucrose, in conjunction with the standard diet. The concentration of sugar in the sucrose solution was the same as is found in some commercial soft drinks, while the high-fructose corn syrup solution was half as concentrated as most sodas.

The second experiment — the first long-term study of the effects of high-fructose corn syrup consumption on obesity in lab animals — monitored weight gain, body fat and triglyceride levels in rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup over a period of six months. Compared to animals eating only rat chow, rats on a diet rich in high-fructose corn syrup showed characteristic signs of a dangerous condition known in humans as the metabolic syndrome, including abnormal weight gain, significant increases in circulating triglycerides and augmented fat deposition, especially visceral fat around the belly. Male rats in particular ballooned in size: Animals with access to high-fructose corn syrup gained 48 percent more weight than those eating a normal diet. In humans, this would be equivalent to a 200-pound man gaining 96 pounds.

What does this mean to you as a consumer, chef, cook, parent and conscious adult who cares about what goes into your body? It means all these months that you've been reading labels and finding out what snacks and pre-packaged foods are laced with this obesity enticing ingredient (which seems like almost everything), the time has come to say good-bye. Sure a candy bar packs a punch and for lack of a better phrase, really satisfies you, but it will do more damage than eating an entire tray of cookies fresh from the oven (and then some).

This doesn't mean you have to quit eating what you love, but it does mean that cooking for yourself and your family is more important than ever. Use real ingredients, use sugars and fats of all sorts, but the time to hesitate is through when it comes to the ever present, High Fructose Corn Syrup. As a consumer you vote with your dollar and the more we chose foods (even if they're prepackaged) without this nasty ingredient, the better!
Read more about Princeton's Findings from the University Website.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 10:17 AM
You're damn right I won't do it. I gave you a heads up on a very important issue if you are to stupid to do some research on the matter so be it!

Over the years I have linked dozens od sites on health issues and how Americans are being violated because they allow it.

Just read this thread to see the apathy.

You didn't give anyone heads up on ****.

You won't do the research because you'll find that the food link to America's top causing cancers is miniscule.

You probably don't even understand cancer, what it is, or how it develops..

You are full of crap.

If you aren't willing to back up your non-sense when challenged, why bother?

Cutting and running must be a mainstay in your life. Ever finished something through?

Probably not.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:24 AM
<a href="http://www.medicalinsurance.org/hfcs"><img src="http://consumermedianetwork.s3.amazonaws.com/medical/HFCSDangers_page.png" alt="HFCS Dangers" width="500" border="0" /></a><br />Via: <a href="http://www.medicalinsurance.org/">Medical Insurance</a>

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:25 AM
http://aspartame.mercola.com/

Aspartate and glutamate act as neurotransmitters in the brain by facilitating the transmission of information from neuron to neuron. Too much aspartate or glutamate in the brain kills certain neurons by allowing the influx of too much calcium into the cells. This influx triggers excessive amounts of free radicals, which kill the cells. The neural cell damage that can be caused by excessive aspartate and glutamate is why they are referred to as "excitotoxins." They "excite" or stimulate the neural cells to death.

Aspartic acid is an amino acid. Taken in its free form (unbound to proteins) it significantly raises the blood plasma level of aspartate and glutamate. The excess aspartate and glutamate in the blood plasma shortly after ingesting aspartame or products with free glutamic acid (glutamate precursor) leads to a high level of those neurotransmitters in certain areas of the brain.

The blood brain barrier (BBB), which normally protects the brain from excess glutamate and aspartate as well as toxins, 1) is not fully developed during childhood, 2) does not fully protect all areas of the brain, 3) is damaged by numerous chronic and acute conditions, and 4) allows seepage of excess glutamate and aspartate into the brain even when intact.

The excess glutamate and aspartate slowly begin to destroy neurons. The large majority (75 percent or more) of neural cells in a particular area of the brain are killed before any clinical symptoms of a chronic illness are noticed. A few of the many chronic illnesses that have been shown to be contributed to by long-term exposure to excitatory amino acid damage include:

baja
06-14-2011, 10:25 AM
The burden of proof would be on you.

Another cop out, like the violence thread.

Make a statement, but unable to articulate it anymore than "face value."

Got that research on America's top ten cancers and food's link to them done yet?

Isn't it important enough for you!?

Call it what you will. I gave you a heads up, do with it what you will. I could give a shiit less if you do or don't look in to it.

In the end you will get exactly what you deserve.

I will however pray that the people of America wake up to what is being done to them for profit.

bronclvr
06-14-2011, 10:25 AM
I have been in the Planting/Growing (incl. Insecticide/Herbicide application, Seed selection, etc.)/Harvesting/Processing of Food my entire Career (Animal/Plant), and have always been fascinated by it.

I will never forget an Article that I read back in the late 80's-it was an interview with the Scientist who created the first GMO Wheat back in the early 1900's-the problem back then was how to grow more Wheat, as emerging Markets were opening up, and they were trying to find ways to increase Yield.

The question to him was: "You have acomplished so much in your esteemed Career, what contriblution do you value most?"

His answer was (paraphrased here)"I have accomplished nothing. When I can produce a seed that will not produce or accelerate Cancer, then I have accomplihsed something."

Food-borne illiness is not "new"-

baja
06-14-2011, 10:28 AM
You didn't give anyone heads up on ****.

You won't do the research because you'll find that the food link to America's top causing cancers is miniscule.

You probably don't even understand cancer, what it is, or how it develops..

You are full of crap.

If you aren't willing to back up your non-sense when challenged, why bother?

Cutting and running must be a mainstay in your life. Ever finished something through?

Probably not.

Fine put me on ignore.

Did you watch the vid? No of course not. Psssst it contains some of the facts you are looking for.

You are what you eat! Have a nice day. ;D

Bye now..

Requiem
06-14-2011, 10:29 AM
Call it what you will. I gave you a heads up, do with it what you will. I could give a shiit less if you do or don't look in to it.

In the end you will get exactly what you deserve.

I will however pray that the people of America wake up to what is being done to them for profit.

You aren't telling me anything new. Get off your high horse.

I eat healthy, ride bike at least ten miles a day and am in the best shape I've been in five years easily.

Must be doing something right!

Requiem
06-14-2011, 10:31 AM
Fine put me on ignore.

Did you watch the vid? No of course not. Psssst it contains some of the facts you are looking for.

You are what you eat! Have a nice day. ;D

Bye now..

I'm mobile, my phone doesn't stream big files well. So no, I can't view it.

Today I ate a banana and had water with a health bar. I'm a banawatebar.

baja
06-14-2011, 10:32 AM
You aren't telling me anything new. Get off your high horse.

I eat healthy, ride bike at least ten miles a day and am in the best shape I've been in five years easily.

Must be doing something right!

Hooray for you.

What about your children and their children.

DenverBrit
06-14-2011, 10:33 AM
Staying away from processed and fast food would be a good place to start.

And the huge portions.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 10:37 AM
Hooray for you.

What about your children and their children.

They don't exist, and when they do, I expect them to make sound decisions regarding a healthy lifestyle, which includes more than diet.

I'm so touched you "care."

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:37 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1379458/Acrylamide-cancer-chemical-processed-foods.html

A chemical which causes cancer has been found in a huge range of foods including bread, crisps and baby food.

Scientists have identified high levels in thousands of cooked and processed products.

The substance, acrylamide, has been linked to several types of cancer including bowel, bladder and kidney, and is known to cause infertility and loss of muscle control

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1379458/Acrylamide-cancer-chemical-processed-foods.html#ixzz1PGx1FKIW





http://www.naturalnews.com/028905_school_lunch_beef.html

Dirty, contaminated beef fed to children through school lunch programs

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/028905_school_lunch_beef.html#ixzz1PGzbTyTj

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:38 AM
Hooray for you.

What about your children and their children.

...and the rising cost of healthcare. Imagine when people retire and they are on medi-X?

Requiem
06-14-2011, 10:38 AM
Staying away from processed and fast food would be a good place to start.

And the huge portions.

Dude, I could go for some fish and chips right now. Six plates. Wanna go?

DenverBrit
06-14-2011, 10:44 AM
Dude, I could go for some fish and chips right now. Six plates. Wanna go?

Right behind you!

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:55 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candidiasis

A weakened or undeveloped immune system or metabolic illnesses such as diabetes are significant predisposing factors of candidiasis.[16] Diseases or conditions linked to candidiasis include HIV/AIDS, mononucleosis, cancer treatments, steroids, stress, and nutrient deficiency. Almost 15% of people with weakened immune systems develop a systemic illness caused by Candida species.[17] In extreme cases, these superficial infections of the skin or mucous membranes may enter into the bloodstream and cause systemic Candida infections.

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4728101_candida-cause-cancer.html#

Prevention of Candida Growth in the Body

Candida on the arms

The kidneys, liver, immune system and digestive system are not capable of processing the chemically processed foods that so many people eat on a daily basis. Due to daily intake of these types of foods, it is becoming more difficult for the various defense systems within our bodies to filter and clean out all of these noxious, toxic invaders. As a result, the more unnatural foods that we intake that are high in sugar and chemical content, the more we feed and encourage the Candida bacteria. The Candida, therefore, continues to feed off of the human body's vital fluids and tissues. However, there are ways to prevent Candida from excessively growing within the body. One major way is to avoid ingesting certain types of foods and substances that create and sustain Candidiasis. The foods and substances to avoid to discourage Candida include white sugars, white flours, white potatoes, corn syrup, high fructose, sorbitol, dried fruits, honey, processed beets, fruit juices and refined carbohydrates. Refined carbohydrates convert very quickly to sugar within the blood. Sugar is a major culprit in encouraging Candida overgrowth. Stored grains are also a concern in regards to Candida overgrowth. This is because stored grains ferment within three months and begin to produce mycotoxins. Alcohol, tobacco, antibiotics and birth control pills also have a negative effect on the body and can encourage the overgrowth of Candida. Therefore, these foods types and substances should not be taken on a daily basis.


Read more: How Does Candida Cause Cancer? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4728101_candida-cause-cancer.html#ixzz1PH46A7aX

baja
06-14-2011, 10:58 AM
look up the health concerns of Aspartame sometime.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 10:59 AM
look up the health concerns of Aspartame sometime.

methane poisoning is awesome!

baja
06-14-2011, 11:01 AM
Now try floride research relative to the Nazis of the 1930's.

baja
06-14-2011, 11:02 AM
watch this documentary; King Corn

alkemical
06-14-2011, 11:04 AM
watch this documentary; King Corn

I saw this film.

baja
06-14-2011, 11:07 AM
I saw this film.

It saddens me to see the level of apathy displayed on this board I can only hope it is not reflective of all of the American people.

Some good links there Josh. I hope they are appreciated by others but I have my doubts.

Requiem
06-14-2011, 11:13 AM
I doubt you really care about "others" when you constantly judge and look down on them. Hence your misguided view on my beliefs and what I value in this thread. Being a good person requires more than what you've displayed here. It's quuite shameful.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 11:20 AM
It saddens me to see the level of apathy displayed on this board I can only hope it is not reflective of all of the American people.

Some good links there Josh. I hope they are appreciated by others but I have my doubts.


I'm not here to tell people HOW to live, just knowing that when i was 20 years old - I was 120lbs more than I am today.

Once I cut out HFCS, and as MUCH crap as possible (I still go out and have dinner/drinks with friends here & there) - I was able to drop that weight, get rid of the onset of type II Diab., and am now fighting the remnants of a candida infection (you can see blotches here and there)...all from processed foods, high nicotine and high caffeine for those early parts of my 20's.

I suspect, that some of these foods cause hormonal problems as well. But haven't found anything concrete. (I swear fast food makes you depressed.)

I used a cleanse from Nature's sunshine: http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/product/cleanstart-wild-berry-14-day/sku-3993.aspx

I am looking to see if i can find something to help with the candida.

Garcia Bronco
06-14-2011, 11:26 AM
How do you feeds billions without preserving the food with chemicals so it can get to the stomach before it decays?

alkemical
06-14-2011, 11:36 AM
How do you feeds billions without preserving the food with chemicals so it can get to the stomach before it decays?

Do you like to put diesel fuel on your food?

MplsBronco
06-14-2011, 11:56 AM
You aren't telling me anything new. Get off your high horse.

I eat healthy, ride bike at least ten miles a day and am in the best shape I've been in five years easily.

Must be doing something right!

STFU already.

LRtagger
06-14-2011, 12:07 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319562/McDonalds-Happy-Meal-bought-Sally-Davies-shows-sign-mould-6-months.html

Looking almost as fresh as the day it was bought, this McDonald's Happy Meal is in fact a staggering six months old.

Photographed every day for the past half a year by Manhattan artist Sally Davies the kids meal of fries and burger is without a hint of mould or decay.

In a work entitled The Happy Meal Project, Mrs Davies, 54, has charted the seemingly indestructible fast food meals progress as it refuses to yield to the forces of nature.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319562/McDonalds-Happy-Meal-bought-Sally-Davies-shows-sign-mould-6-months.html#ixzz1PGr9EJWj


[IMG]

6 months and it doesn't decompose? Blech.


http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/11/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html

The problem with coming to that conclusion, of course, is that if you are a believer in science (and I certainly hope you are!), in order to make a conclusion, you must first start with a few observable premises as a starting point with which you form a theorem, followed by a reasonably rigorous experiment with controls built in place to verify the validity of that theorem.

Thus far, I haven't located a single source that treats this McDonald's hamburger phenomenon in this fashion. Instead, most rely on speculation, specious reasoning, and downright obtuseness to arrive at the conclusion that a McDonald's burger "is a chemical food[, with] absolutely no nutrition."

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 12:15 PM
http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/11/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html

The problem with coming to that conclusion, of course, is that if you are a believer in science (and I certainly hope you are!), in order to make a conclusion, you must first start with a few observable premises as a starting point with which you form a theorem, followed by a reasonably rigorous experiment with controls built in place to verify the validity of that theorem.

Thus far, I haven't located a single source that treats this McDonald's hamburger phenomenon in this fashion. Instead, most rely on speculation, specious reasoning, and downright obtuseness to arrive at the conclusion that a McDonald's burger "is a chemical food[, with] absolutely no nutrition."
Don't worry, neither Baja or Alkemical require more than a health food website's claims to believe that something is truly bad for them. Which is fine.

It can't hurt anyone to eat more fresh foods and take in fewer chemicals, but the amount of unfounded overreaction they display is ridiculous.

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 12:20 PM
I'm not here to tell people HOW to live, just knowing that when i was 20 years old - I was 120lbs more than I am today.

Once I cut out HFCS, and as MUCH crap as possible (I still go out and have dinner/drinks with friends here & there) - I was able to drop that weight, get rid of the onset of type II Diab., and am now fighting the remnants of a candida infection (you can see blotches here and there)...all from processed foods, high nicotine and high caffeine for those early parts of my 20's.

I suspect, that some of these foods cause hormonal problems as well. But haven't found anything concrete. (I swear fast food makes you depressed.)

I used a cleanse from Nature's sunshine: http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/product/cleanstart-wild-berry-14-day/sku-3993.aspx

I am looking to see if i can find something to help with the candida.

I'm betting that eating less processed food helped you lose the weight which is great. The weight loss along with discontinuing tobacco use probably account for 99.9% of your increased health. Adipose tissue is a major endocrine tissue, just losing weight fixes a lot of hormonal imbalances. You give far too much credit to health problems supposedly resulting from processed foods/ingredients as opposed to lifestyle choices and overall calorie consumption/sources of calories.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 12:42 PM
Don't worry, neither Baja or Alkemical require more than a health food website's claims to believe that something is truly bad for them. Which is fine.

It can't hurt anyone to eat more fresh foods and take in fewer chemicals, but the amount of unfounded overreaction they display is ridiculous.

I love ammonia in my burger!

Nice poison the well tactic, but seems that facts about the chemicals and preservatives in processed foods destroy the notion of it being nutritious.

This ammonia-injected beef comes from a company called Beef Products, Inc. As NYT reports, the federal school lunch program used a whopping 5.5 million pounds of ammonia-injected beef trimmings from this company in 2008. This company reportedly developed the idea of using ammonia to sterilize beef before selling it for human consumption.

Aside from the fact that there's ammonia in the hamburger meat, there's another problem with this company's products: The ammonia doesn't always kill the pathogens. Both e.coli and salmonella have been found contaminating the cow-derived products sold by this company.

This came as a shock to the USDA, which had actually exempted the company's products from pathogen testing and product recalls. Why was it exempted? Because the ammonia injection process was deemed so effective that the meat products were thought to be safe beyond any question.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 12:45 PM
I'm betting that eating less processed food helped you lose the weight which is great. The weight loss along with discontinuing tobacco use probably account for 99.9% of your increased health. Adipose tissue is a major endocrine tissue, just losing weight fixes a lot of hormonal imbalances. You give far too much credit to health problems supposedly resulting from processed foods/ingredients as opposed to lifestyle choices and overall calorie consumption/sources of calories.

Right, because fake food is healthy!

jhns
06-14-2011, 12:47 PM
Nice approach to a very serious problem for YOU.

"Hey! Look over there Requiem, while we poison you and your family via the food you pay for."

It's people like you that make it possible for the coperate world to do this to you.

Most 1st world countries do not allow what the US does relative to the food supply but that is of no concern to you right.

The USA is number 1 in the world in one thing - CANCER - THE USA HAS THE HIGHEST RATES OF CANCER IN THE WORLD!

Haven't you also complained about the airport security because they are taking freedoms from people? Now you want them to decide what we eat? That isn't a freedom?

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 12:48 PM
I love ammonia in my burger!

Nice poison the well tactic, but seems that facts about the chemicals and preservatives in processed foods destroy the notion of it being nutritious.

You're totally right. One article about an isolated incident (that really isn't that big of a deal since the beef in schools was undoubtedly cooked long enough to kill the pathogens) of failed preservative use proves that processed food is a major contributor to cancer in the U.S.

jhns
06-14-2011, 12:48 PM
Nice poison the well tactic, but seems that facts about the chemicals and preservatives in processed foods destroy the notion of it being nutritious.

Then don't eat processed foods. Fresh foods are just as easy to get if you are worried about it.

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 12:51 PM
Right, because fake food is healthy!

Hey I didn't say that it's better for you, just that it isn't as bad as you two are making it out to be.

I don't eat much processed food because I know how to cook and I can make better food for less money. I also recognize that exercising and making sure that I'm getting appropriate amounts of macro and micronutrients and an appropriate number of calories is FAR more important than avoiding all "processed" foods for overall health.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 01:00 PM
You're totally right. One article about an isolated incident (that really isn't that big of a deal since the beef in schools was undoubtedly cooked long enough to kill the pathogens) of failed preservative use proves that processed food is a major contributor to cancer in the U.S.

Nice dodge on the use of chemicals in food.

An isolated incident in over half the meat produced in the US. There is more than enough literature from doctors and institutions citing links between processed foods and cancer. the cancer rates for those under 35 in the US has been climbing. Is it PROOF that X causes Y - not yet. But other countries don't seem to have the health issues we have. In our #1 medical care country, it's funny we seem to have some serious health issues.


The evidence is pretty much against your argument.

But it's ok if you like to eat junk food. But just like smokers - admit that you are killing yourself.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 01:02 PM
Hey I didn't say that it's better for you, just that it isn't as bad as you two are making it out to be.

I don't eat much processed food because I know how to cook and I can make better food for less money. I also recognize that exercising and making sure that I'm getting appropriate amounts of macro and micronutrients and an appropriate number of calories is FAR more important than avoiding all "processed" foods for overall health.

The rising obesity problem in America, climbing cancer rates and diabetes contradict your position.

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 01:06 PM
The rising obesity problem in America, climbing cancer rates and diabetes contradict your position.

Actually it doesn't at all. All of those things are linked more to obesity than to processed food consumption (which is commonly high in people that are obese, but doesn't prove causation in any way shape or form).

The obesity problem is way too multifactorial to place more than a small fraction of the blame on processed foods.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 01:07 PM
Actually it doesn't at all. All of those things are linked more to obesity than to processed food consumption (which is commonly high in people that are obese, but doesn't prove causation in any way shape or form).

Yes, because everyone's getting fat from oranges and water.

:rollseyes:

mmmmm

Mechanically seperated meat!

http://betweenshowers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Mechanicallyseparatedchicken.jpg

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 01:13 PM
Yes, because everyone's getting fat from oranges and water.

:rollseyes:

mmmmm

Mechanically seperated meat!

http://betweenshowers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Mechanicallyseparatedchicken.jpg

You can eat processed foods and still maintain a healthy weight. It is certainly easier to get fat by eating something that has been stripped down to empty calories like white flour, rice, sugar etc.

Which begs the question, what exactly is the criteria for something to be considered processed? Is white rice processed? Is every kind of flour processed? Butchered meat? Any ground meat? Cheese? Because I would consider all of these foods to be processed to varying degrees.

TheReverend
06-14-2011, 01:22 PM
The rising obesity problem in America, climbing cancer rates and diabetes contradict your position.

Not really...

misturanderson
06-14-2011, 01:37 PM
But it's ok if you like to eat junk food. But just like smokers - admit that you are killing yourself.

Just living in Colorado with it's higher than average background radiation levels has a much greater effect on my cancer risk than regularly eating slim jims.

alkemical
06-14-2011, 03:22 PM
Not really...

hey! it's tshirt time!

alkemical
06-14-2011, 03:33 PM
Just living in Colorado with it's higher than average background radiation levels has a much greater effect on my cancer risk than regularly eating slim jims.

I don't give a **** what you do. Just information to pass along. After spending time in a butcher shop working, and learning about what is done in the industry - it's appalling what is called food. when you find out more, the chemicals that are used you see why people are sick, obese.

baja
06-14-2011, 03:34 PM
How do you feeds billions without preserving the food with chemicals so it can get to the stomach before it decays?

Chemicals can around in the 50's how did we ever get through the previous million years?

TheReverend
06-14-2011, 03:54 PM
hey! it's tshirt time!

....What?

GreatBronco16
06-14-2011, 04:04 PM
Then don't eat processed foods. Fresh foods are just as easy to get if you are worried about it.

Well now wait a minute. I just bought some fresh food from the market that I was told to wash before I eat it because of all the chemicals they put on them to help make sure they don't get bugs and stuff inside them. I bet those chemicals are a reason people get cancer too. Let me go find that one person that did a study in their back yard to back up my claim and make it a fact.;D

Meck77
06-14-2011, 05:01 PM
Forget cancer. The smell of mexico is enough to kill you!

mhgaffney
06-14-2011, 05:47 PM
California One Care

Vermont just passed the first single payer plan in the nation -- and now a similar initiative is afoot in California.

Be sure to share with others -- after you've wartched it. This is packed with good information.

http://youtu.be/IEi0OveTtO8

Requiem
06-15-2011, 07:12 AM
Forget cancer. The smell of mexico is enough to kill you!

You owe me a carpet cleaning sir. I just pissed all over due to laughter. Post of the Week!

TailgateNut
06-15-2011, 08:16 AM
Forget cancer. The smell of mexico is enough to kill you!

The last time I visited was in '79 and it WAS the LAST TIME.

alkemical
06-17-2011, 10:20 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5812276/would-you-eat-a-burger-made-from-poop

Would You Eat a Burger Made from Poop?

Mitsyuki Ikeda, the mad scientist behind this foul mashup, says some people may have a psychological aversion to eating fake meat made from poop. I think he's wrong. ALL people will have a psychological aversion. Sure, we all make jokes that fast food burgers taste like crap but we still don't want to actually eat crap, dude.

Ikeda, to his credit, created these poop burgers in an effort to be resourceful and recycle human waste. He realized if he could use "sewage mud", which is poop (you know you're in trouble when the euphemism of a word is just as bad as the word itself) and is everywhere, to formulate his burgers he could be completely efficient. Right now the burgers cost 10-20 times of regular meat because it factors in his research costs, the price will drop if there's enough demand. I never thought I had to ask this question but would you eat a burger made from poop? [INHABITAT]

DenverBrit
06-17-2011, 10:44 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5812276/would-you-eat-a-burger-made-from-poop

Would You Eat a Burger Made from Poop?

Mitsyuki Ikeda, the mad scientist behind this foul mashup, says some people may have a psychological aversion to eating fake meat made from poop. I think he's wrong. ALL people will have a psychological aversion. Sure, we all make jokes that fast food burgers taste like crap but we still don't want to actually eat crap, dude.

Ikeda, to his credit, created these poop burgers in an effort to be resourceful and recycle human waste. He realized if he could use "sewage mud", which is poop (you know you're in trouble when the euphemism of a word is just as bad as the word itself) and is everywhere, to formulate his burgers he could be completely efficient. Right now the burgers cost 10-20 times of regular meat because it factors in his research costs, the price will drop if there's enough demand. I never thought I had to ask this question but would you eat a burger made from poop? [INHABITAT]

I've eaten one McDonald's in my life....that was enough!

Rock Chalk
06-17-2011, 10:51 AM
MANY BRAVE SOULS DIED TO GIVE YOU THE COUNTRY YOU INHERITED - TO BAD YOU ARE UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO CONTINUE THE VIGILANCE.

This from the coward who gave up and left.

baja
06-17-2011, 11:09 AM
This from the coward who gave up and left.

If you were offered a really good job in another country would you take it?

If you did accept it would you consider yourself a coward?

jhns
06-17-2011, 11:13 AM
Chemicals can around in the 50's how did we ever get through the previous million years?

Is average life expectancy higher or lower than it was in the 50s?

alkemical
06-17-2011, 11:58 AM
http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/kfc_pepsi_diabetes.jpg

The Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation has confirmed that this is a real promotion occurring now at KFCs across the country. Gulp down a “mega jug” of Pepsi — that’s a half gallon containing 56 spoonfuls of sugar — and one whole dollar will go towards finding a cure for the terrible disease that the drink will give you. Via Grist:

I honestly didn’t believe this one was for real at first. No way even KFC, purveyors of a sandwich that uses fried meat as a delivery mechanism for fried meat, would seriously market a soda size called the “mega jug.” And even if they did, they’d never have the chutzpah to donate “mega jug” dollars to juvenile diabetes research.

Sadly, I had totally underestimated KFC’s capacity for irony. The mega jug is a half gallon of soda, and this is a real local promotion. The Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation defends it thus: “JDRF supports research for type 1 diabetes, an autoimmune disease that results when the immune system attacks the cells in the pancreas that produce insulin, therefore requiring a child or adult with the disease to depend on insulin treatment for the rest of their lives. It is a common misconception that type 1 diabetes is caused by obesity or eating too much junk food or sweets.”

More on Grist

Fedaykin
06-17-2011, 12:17 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5812276/would-you-eat-a-burger-made-from-poop

Would You Eat a Burger Made from Poop?

Mitsyuki Ikeda, the mad scientist behind this foul mashup, says some people may have a psychological aversion to eating fake meat made from poop. I think he's wrong. ALL people will have a psychological aversion. Sure, we all make jokes that fast food burgers taste like crap but we still don't want to actually eat crap, dude.

Ikeda, to his credit, created these poop burgers in an effort to be resourceful and recycle human waste. He realized if he could use "sewage mud", which is poop (you know you're in trouble when the euphemism of a word is just as bad as the word itself) and is everywhere, to formulate his burgers he could be completely efficient. Right now the burgers cost 10-20 times of regular meat because it factors in his research costs, the price will drop if there's enough demand. I never thought I had to ask this question but would you eat a burger made from poop? [INHABITAT]

This reminds me of the Foundation and/or Robot series by Asimov where the lower class citizens of the planet sized cities only ate food made from the waste of the people who could afford "real" food.

alkemical
06-17-2011, 12:19 PM
This reminds me of the Foundation and/or Robot series by Asimov where the lower class citizens of the planet sized cities only ate food made from the waste of the people who could afford "real" food.

I forgot about that!

Fedaykin
06-17-2011, 12:22 PM
This is news to people?

Corporations will put/leave whatever they can get away (preservatives, drugs, human body parts, etc.) with in your food to increase their profits. If that means damaging your health -- oh well.

Archer81
06-17-2011, 12:31 PM
...No.



:Broncos:

Rock Chalk
06-17-2011, 12:47 PM
If you were offered a really good job in another country would you take it?

If you did accept it would you consider yourself a coward?

1) I dont look for jobs in ****hole countries.
2) If offered I'd tell them to **** off, Im not leaving the best place on the planet to go to your ****hole of a country.

alkemical
06-17-2011, 12:49 PM
1) I dont look for jobs in ****hole countries.
2) If offered I'd tell them to **** off, Im not leaving the best place on the planet to go to your ****hole of a country.

LOL, you are in TX, right?

:wiggle:

Rock Chalk
06-17-2011, 12:50 PM
LOL, you are in TX, right?

:wiggle:

touch&eacute;

alkemical
06-17-2011, 12:54 PM
touch&eacute;

Trust me... Penna has it's own Bull****.

We have ****ty politicians, we have ****ed up water (Thanks Macellus Shale!), and we have nothing but box stores.

Culture died here a long time ago.

Requiem
06-17-2011, 03:02 PM
38 wings later... Mmmmm I'm healthy.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-17-2011, 05:22 PM
Nice approach to a very serious problem for YOU.

"Hey! Look over there Requiem, while we poison you and your family via the food you pay for."

It's people like you that make it possible for the coperate world to do this to you.

Most 1st world countries do not allow what the US does relative to the food supply but that is of no concern to you right.

The USA is number 1 in the world in one thing - CANCER - THE USA HAS THE HIGHEST RATES OF CANCER IN THE WORLD!

Hey, dude:

This is just the price we have to pay to make sure giant corporations (I mean "persons") stay profitable. After all, they're the ones who create all the jobs and stimulate the economy, you know?

If you don't understand this, then you're just an anti-business class warrior who envies and/or hates rich people.

;)

ZONA
06-17-2011, 05:50 PM
It's all about the corporate bottom dollar. Sorry to say, that's exactly what this country has become. From box suites at stadiums that have removed the fan seats to the engineered food proteins. The politicians are in the pockets of the large corporations and trust me, the large corporations don't care about you, or that what they sell you is bad for you. And I'm not trying to stir anything up but it's the Republicans that are always trying to give the big corporations anything and everything they desire. They want smaller government and more private sector influence and less regulations. Well my friends, this is what smaller government, larger corporations and less regulations give you. Screwed up food with engineered pest control in it so they can maximize profit while you die. That's the bottom line. I'm not saying you need to depend on your government entirely but there's got to be a even mix.

Archer81
06-17-2011, 06:25 PM
It's all about the corporate bottom dollar. Sorry to say, that's exactly what this country has become. From box suites at stadiums that have removed the fan seats to the engineered food proteins. The politicians are in the pockets of the large corporations and trust me, the large corporations don't care about you, or that what they sell you is bad for you. 1. And I'm not trying to stir anything up but it's the 2. Republicans that are always trying to give the big corporations anything and everything they desire. They want3. smaller government and more private sector influence and less regulations. Well my friends, this is what smaller government, larger corporations and less regulations give you. Screwed up food with engineered pest control in it so they can maximize profit while you die. That's the bottom line. I'm not saying you need to depend on your government entirely but there's got to be a even mix.

1. Uh huh

2. Obama took more corporate money than McCain in 2008.

3. I find it funny. Big oil/Big Business = bad for people. Big government = good for people. Explain how a government big enough to give you everything and anything you need or want wont trample or remove your rights when it decides it alone knows better than you how to live your life.

:Broncos: