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05-30-2011, 08:49 AM
Jim Tressel resigns as Ohio State’s football coach
By RUSTY MILLER, AP Sports Writer
25 minutes ago


tweet13EmailPrintCOLUMBUS, Ohio (AP)—Jim Tressel, who guided Ohio State to its first national title in 34 years, resigned Monday amid NCAA violations from a tattoo-parlor scandal that sullied the image of one of the country’s top football programs.

“After meeting with university officials, we agreed that it is in the best interest of Ohio State that I resign as head football coach,” Tressel said in a statement released by the university. “The appreciation that (wife) Ellen and I have for the Buckeye Nation is immeasurable.”


Jim Tressel potentially faced further sanctions from the NCAA beyond Ohio State's five-game suspension of him.

Luke Fickell will be the coach for the 2011 season. He already had been selected to be the interim head coach while Tressel served a five-game suspension.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ohiost-tresselresigns

Kaylore
05-30-2011, 08:59 AM
And Michigan fans rejoiced.

Pony Boy
05-30-2011, 09:15 AM
I resign as head football coach,” Tressel said in a statement released by the university. “The appreciation that (wife) Ellen and I have for the Buckeye Nation is immeasurable.”

I hope for his wife's sake she doesn't have a tramp stamp........

Garcia Bronco
05-30-2011, 09:15 AM
Cya

ColoradoDarin
05-30-2011, 09:18 AM
THE Ohio State should be given the SMU treatment.

Hercules Rockefeller
05-30-2011, 09:46 AM
THE Ohio State should be given the SMU treatment.

If not that far, at least what USC got

elsid13
05-30-2011, 10:03 AM
If not that far, at least what USC got

That will be the starting point. I expect that OSU is in for some tough times in the future with its football team.

Baba Booey
05-30-2011, 10:15 AM
Good. **** Ohio State.

DemonEagles
05-30-2011, 11:14 AM
Nebraska is going to do well

SouthStndJunkie
05-30-2011, 11:17 AM
The Evil Empire is finished....finished!

I knew The Senator was crooked.

bronco militia
05-30-2011, 11:18 AM
go michigan

Kid A
05-30-2011, 11:33 AM
Interim coach for next year (due to the late timing of this) then...who's next. Urban Meyer will obviously be a name that floats around. Depending on Nebraska's performance, Pelini will get a long look from his alma mater. Hope it doesn't work that way, but we'll see.

illbroncsfn
05-30-2011, 11:42 AM
Interim coach for next year (due to the late timing of this) then...who's next. Urban Meyer will obviously be a name that floats around. Depending on Nebraska's performance, Pelini will get a long look from his alma mater. Hope it doesn't work that way, but we'll see.

I hate to be "this guy" but I have a great source that talks openly that if presented the opportunity Pelini WILL leave Nebraska fro O.S.U.

SoCalBronco
05-30-2011, 11:46 AM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJ2FOlABcMh6GxhZzYz_8gwSg7M5Emp wmToUbBMcnBYkSoKgUE

It's about time. I've been waiting for eight and a half years for this. That's what you get for stealing from us, O$U. Karma is a biatch. Now, hopefully, the NCAA will bring down the hammer and totally destroy that program, just like they did to U$C. Take out the trash.

Stay down, biatch.

NFLBRONCO
05-30-2011, 11:52 AM
Same old thing though OSU gets screwed coach walks gets next top dollar job in a year or so.

SoCalBronco
05-30-2011, 12:07 PM
Apparently this happened today because a damning SI story was coming out tonight detailing a ton of stuff.

montrose
05-30-2011, 01:09 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJ2FOlABcMh6GxhZzYz_8gwSg7M5Emp wmToUbBMcnBYkSoKgUE

It's about time. I've been waiting for eight and a half years for this. That's what you get for stealing from us, O$U. Karma is a biatch. Now, hopefully, the NCAA will bring down the hammer and totally destroy that program, just like they did to U$C. Take out the trash.

Stay down, biatch.

http://www.smackapparel.com/userfiles/images/robber%20in%20the%20dessert%20back%20for%20website .jpg

Time to give the U their rightful championship! Right SoCal? :wiggle:

crush17
05-30-2011, 01:12 PM
Is it me or does it fee like the NCAA is being just a tad ridiculous about some players selling and trading some merchandise in exchange for some tattoos?

I mean come on. What am I missing here??

elsid13
05-30-2011, 01:14 PM
Is it me or does it fee like the NCAA is being just a tad ridiculous about some players selling and trading some merchandise in exchange for some tattoos?

I mean come on. What am I missing here??

There is more to the story then tattoos, there is talk about car sell and other benefits

SoCalBronco
05-30-2011, 01:19 PM
http://www.smackapparel.com/userfiles/images/robber%20in%20the%20dessert%20back%20for%20website .jpg

Time to give the U their rightful championship! Right SoCal? :wiggle:

We'll never get that title back. The NCAA has no jurisdiction to award it since there is no official national champion in college football. Even if the BCS and AP were to vacate the titles, they generally don't substitute in place another champion (as we can see with U$C's impending title vacation, Auburn isn't going to get the 2004 BCS title).

But, what's important is that there is retribution for what happened there, even if there's no title. I want pain and suffering big time for Ohio State and its fans. That's all we can get at this point and I'll be satisfied with that for now.

ohiobronco2
05-30-2011, 01:29 PM
There is more to the story then tattoos, there is talk about car sell and other benefits

Nothing has been proven as of yet. Not saying more won't come out, but it's just been speculation up to now. I think we will all know more in the coming days. I'm just happy that more is going to come out and we can finally get this sh*t over with. Take our punishment and more on. Yahoo has stated that this OSU story was an 8 out of 10 and they have a story coming out in the summer which is a 10/10. So, something to look forward to. ;D

ohiobronco2
05-30-2011, 01:32 PM
The Evil Empire is finished....finished!

I knew The Senator was crooked.

;D Too bad we won't get to see Hoke vs Tressel. The one thing I like about Hoke is he really gets the rivalry. RR never did. This couldn't have happened at a better time for Michigan, the state of Ohio is loaded and if Michigan can get some of that talent they will be competitive sooner rather than later. I don't think they have enough to win this year though.

ohiobronco2
05-30-2011, 01:34 PM
I hate to be "this guy" but I have a great source that talks openly that if presented the opportunity Pelini WILL leave Nebraska fro O.S.U.

I would make sense, but if OSU gets a severe punishment I don't know if a high profile coach will jump at the opportunity to coach there. But it is OSU.

Kid A
05-30-2011, 02:53 PM
I hate to be "this guy" but I have a great source that talks openly that if presented the opportunity Pelini WILL leave Nebraska fro O.S.U.

I have serious doubts Bo has openly said anything about this. But it also doesn't take insider info to know he'd be very interested in coaching a powerhouse program at his alma mater, in his home state. We'll get an entire season of this speculation now - kinda sucks, but that's the nature of the game. Worst case if Bo does bolt, at least that means he had a solid season in the Big Ten and maybe Carl can take the reigns at NU and we get dueling Pelini's every year.

elsid13
05-30-2011, 03:02 PM
Nothing has been proven as of yet. Not saying more won't come out, but it's just been speculation up to now. I think we will all know more in the coming days. I'm just happy that more is going to come out and we can finally get this sh*t over with. Take our punishment and more on. Yahoo has stated that this OSU story was an 8 out of 10 and they have a story coming out in the summer which is a 10/10. So, something to look forward to. ;D

So you don't think that Small's interview didn't start a line of questions that could be a big problem? When all Small's ex-teammates turn on him, it sure looks like there something there.

enjolras
05-30-2011, 03:08 PM
So who's next? My money is on Auburn...

ohiobronco2
05-30-2011, 03:15 PM
So you don't think that Small's interview didn't start a line of questions that could be a big problem? When all Small's ex-teammates turn on him, it sure looks like there something there.

Honestly, nothing would surprise me, but I don't know how much you know about Small. Dude was always in trouble (in Tressel's dog house, does he have an axe to grind?), he's about the least reliable person out there. Now, Mark Titus is somebody you can believe and he is saying many of the same things. Like I said, more will come out, I won't be surprised, being a Buckeye fan this has been hell for the last 6 months.

elsid13
05-30-2011, 03:23 PM
Honestly, nothing would surprise me, but I don't know how much you know about Small. Dude was always in trouble (in Tressel's dog house, does he have an axe to grind?), he's about the least reliable person out there. Now, Mark Titus is somebody you can believe and he is saying many of the same things. Like I said, more will come out, I won't be surprised, being a Buckeye fan this has been hell for the last 6 months.

I have strange feeling that you are in for harsh couple of years when NCAA decides to make another example. Do you think the fans will turn on 5 players that got suspended?

DBroncos4life
05-30-2011, 03:25 PM
I have serious doubts Bo has openly said anything about this. But it also doesn't take insider info to know he'd be very interested in coaching a powerhouse program at his alma mater, in his home state. We'll get an entire season of this speculation now - kinda sucks, but that's the nature of the game. Worst case if Bo does bolt, at least that means he had a solid season in the Big Ten and maybe Carl can take the reigns at NU and we get dueling Pelini's every year.

I love Bo..(even though I openly say he wasn't my first choice) but, I don't think he will be offered the job at OSU. We all know Bo has some anger issues and really don't think that's a image that they want after this. Anyways hopefully the NCAA punishes them so much that he doesn't want to leave.

houghtam
05-30-2011, 03:27 PM
If not that far, at least what USC got

I'm a Michigan State fan so I hate OSU as much as the next guy, but I have my doubts that their punishment will be anything close to what USC got. Good article written on that in the Detroit Free Press.

Linkage.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110529/COL08/105290546/Drew-Sharp-NCAA-won-t-unleash-full-wrath-Ohio-State

ohiobronco2
05-30-2011, 03:29 PM
I have strange feeling that you are in for harsh couple of years when NCAA decides to make another example. Do you think the fans will turn on 5 players that got suspended?

Yeah, it will be interesting to see what finally does come out and how the NCAA rules. What matters is being hit with the lack of institutional control tag, if we are we are in deep trouble. If not, we will get punished but not nearly as bad. Concerning the other 5 players, people will boo them and maybe worse. I wouldn't be surprised if T. Pryor never plays another game for OSU. Even though he is a very talented football player, I wish he never came to OSU.

elsid13
05-30-2011, 03:41 PM
Yeah, it will be interesting to see what finally does come out and how the NCAA rules. What matters is being hit with the lack of institutional control tag, if we are we are in deep trouble. If not, we will get punished but not nearly as bad. Concerning the other 5 players, people will boo them and maybe worse. I wouldn't be surprised if T. Pryor never plays another game for OSU. Even though he is a very talented football player, I wish he never came to OSU.

You might be right. This was just posted on ESPN

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/05/30/zzz.html

ohiobronco2
05-30-2011, 03:45 PM
You might be right. This was just posted on ESPN

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/05/30/zzz.html

This is how I feel right about now. :approve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0

elsid13
05-30-2011, 03:51 PM
This is how I feel right about now. :approve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0

Just don't let the children watch it. :approve:

BTW wait til the vultures swoop in and start stealing the recruits

Champagne Powder
05-30-2011, 06:26 PM
SI just released their cover story!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

Requiem
05-30-2011, 06:40 PM
Finally. It is about time.

Kaylore
05-30-2011, 06:58 PM
SI just released their cover story!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

That was a good read. The NCAA is going to rape OSU.

houghtam
05-30-2011, 07:27 PM
That was a good read. The NCAA is going to rape OSU.

I still have my doubts. Maybe it's from years of hanging with OSU for a quarter or two, having hope, and ultimately getting blown out. But in the article I linked, as well as the last line in SI's report, the case is made that since OSU has distanced itself from Tressel and to some extent enacted self-sanctions and contrition (which USC did not), the NCAA will be more lenient on them. I hope this is not the case.

The NCAA is going to have to perform their own investigation, and who knows what that will turn up...

On a related note, does anyone know what the NCAA policy on drug testing is? Are they allowed to test if they are suspicious? If so, why not just test the entire Ohio State team? That right there will give you a good idea, if the players implicated with Fine Line turn out to be the same ones who test positive. At the very least, I bet half their team would get suspended. Their scrubs might still be able to beat Akron and Toledo, but a 2-10 Buckeye team would be a great sight to see.

Majik
05-30-2011, 07:34 PM
My favorite line from the SI article. :)

In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel.

SoCalBronco
05-30-2011, 07:53 PM
Hopefully Florida is next.

DBroncos4life
05-30-2011, 08:41 PM
NU went in to the Big 10 during the right year

24champ
05-31-2011, 02:18 AM
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Requiem
05-31-2011, 03:23 AM
Jim Tressel... A bastard!

CEH
05-31-2011, 06:09 AM
Trelell Pryor rolls up yesterday at OSU in a new week old black 350Z

Pony Boy
05-31-2011, 06:53 AM
Trelell Pryor rolls up yesterday at OSU in a new week old black 350Z

The NCAA and Ohio State are also probing more than 50 car purchases by Buckeyes players, their families and friends.
The newspaper's sources say that Pryor has been connected to at least six vehicles during his time at Ohio State.

The Dispatch reported in January that Pryor had been stopped three times for traffic violations over the past three years, each time driving cars that were owned by a car salesman or a Columbus used-car dealership where the salesman worked.

The salesman, Aaron Kniffin, told the newspaper that while working at a dealership in 2008, he allowed Pryor to drive his SUV to Pryor's hometown of Jeannette, Pa., and show it to his mother. Pryor did not buy the vehicle.

Kniffin also said he arranged for Pryor to use a 2009 Dodge while Pryor's car was being worked on at another dealership where Kniffin worked.

"He looked at a lot of cars," Kniffin told ESPN "Outside the Lines" reporter Tom Farrey.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6608432

Tombstone RJ
05-31-2011, 10:36 AM
SI just released their cover story!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/05/30/jim.tressel/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

I hate SI. I'm not a fan of Ohio State or their football program but I truly dislike SI. It's such a hack magazine that relies on sensationalism. SI was the source for the bad articles about the Broncos after Elway retired and I'll never, ever forgive this hack magazine for that crap.

Too bad for Tressel, he was well respected and appeared to be a true gentleman. I hope he gets through this mess a better person and a wiser man for his mistakes.

That being said, screw SI.

24champ
05-31-2011, 11:21 AM
Just don't let the children watch it. :approve:

BTW wait til the vultures swoop in and start stealing the recruits

I am sure Recruits are already looking elsewhere. Wonder if Pryor and the rest will apply for the Supplemental draft? According to Schefter, the NFL will hold one if they apply for it.


@AdamSchefter Even though there are no plans for one now because no one has applied, NFL allowed to hold supplemental draft; it's covered in 2006 CBA.

Garcia Bronco
05-31-2011, 11:27 AM
This is the dumbest **** I have ever heard of....

maven
05-31-2011, 11:44 AM
http://www.smackapparel.com/userfiles/images/robber%20in%20the%20dessert%20back%20for%20website .jpg

Time to give the U their rightful championship! Right SoCal? :wiggle:

It was ****ing bull****!

To add, might as well get out before the sanctions hit. No point sticking around.

ohiobronco2
05-31-2011, 12:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1xlg3SWDsk

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-31-2011, 01:10 PM
I hate SI. I'm not a fan of Ohio State or their football program but I truly dislike SI. It's such a hack magazine that relies on sensationalism. SI was the source for the bad articles about the Broncos after Elway retired and I'll never, ever forgive this hack magazine for that crap.

Too bad for Tressel, he was well respected and appeared to be a true gentleman. I hope he gets through this mess a better person and a wiser man for his mistakes.

That being said, screw SI.

I love how you attack the messenger for Tressel's mistakes. Classic Tombstone!

Kaylore
05-31-2011, 01:22 PM
I'm a Michigan State fan so I hate OSU as much as the next guy, but I have my doubts that their punishment will be anything close to what USC got. Good article written on that in the Detroit Free Press.

Linkage.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110529/COL08/105290546/Drew-Sharp-NCAA-won-t-unleash-full-wrath-Ohio-State

This article is totally lacking in any substance. He just says that Ohio State is complying in a general sense without naming specifics and then says because of that they will get a lesser penalty. If the author's point is that it won't be as severe because they are helping the investigation, I disagree. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

USC was largely nailed for the incident involving Bush. The penalties were addressed specific to that one year. The information coming out about THE osu are painting a picture that spans a decade of non-compliance and either willful disobedience, or a complete lack of effort in self-policing and cover-up. Then repeated lying until they were caught. They might be participating now, but it's only because they got caught and can't hide it anymore. I'm not convinced the penalties won't be as severe as USC's.

Tombstone RJ
05-31-2011, 01:27 PM
I love how you attack the messenger for Tressel's mistakes. Classic Tombstone!

I explained why I have little respect for SI and yes, its MHO. If you like SI fine, but their hack job on the Broncos left a bad taste in my mouth.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-31-2011, 01:37 PM
I explained why I have little respect for SI and yes, its MHO. If you like SI fine, but their hack job on the Broncos left a bad taste in my mouth.

That's all well and good, but somehow I doubt that this same reporter was the guy writing stories that left the bad taste in your mouth. They have some absolutely fantastic writers at that "hack magazine," some excellent in-depth researchers as well. Lumping them all in with a reporter who apparently had an ax to grind is pretty childish, but definitely your prerogative (and your MO).

24champ
05-31-2011, 01:48 PM
I love how you attack the messenger for Tressel's mistakes. Classic Tombstone!

http://tshirtgroove.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/drunk-driving-classic-hangover-tshirt.jpg

BroncoLifer
05-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Is it me or does it fee like the NCAA is being just a tad ridiculous about some players selling and trading some merchandise in exchange for some tattoos?

I mean come on. What am I missing here??

That like Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton already demonstrated, lying to cover up often makes things much worse for you than the original crime.

Tombstone RJ
05-31-2011, 01:56 PM
That's all well and good, but somehow I doubt that this same reporter was the guy writing stories that left the bad taste in your mouth. They have some absolutely fantastic writers at that "hack magazine," some excellent in-depth researchers as well. Lumping them all in with a reporter who apparently had an ax to grind is pretty childish, but definitely your prerogative (and your MO).

Yep, I don't like SI. I've read enough of their stuff to know they generate a lot of their sales on sensationalism which is fine. I know sensationalism in the media is your kind of thing and is definitely your MO. Congrats brosef.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-31-2011, 01:57 PM
Yep, I don't like SI. I've read enough of their stuff to know they generate a lot of their sales on sensationalism which is fine. I know sensationalism in the media is your kind of thing and is definitely your MO. Congrats brosef.

Really? Sensationalism in the media is my thing?

What are you talking about? Do you even know anymore?

Tombstone RJ
05-31-2011, 01:59 PM
Really? Sensationalism in the media is my thing?

What are you talking about? Do you even know anymore?

What are you talking about?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-31-2011, 02:01 PM
You can't honestly be this stupid.

Do you have a head injury that causes short-term memory loss?

Tombstone RJ
05-31-2011, 02:02 PM
TEKO, flaming away.

ZachKC
05-31-2011, 04:06 PM
Pinkle being talked about for the Ohio St. job. Doubt he would jump on it though.

Champagne Powder
05-31-2011, 04:16 PM
Pinkle being talked about for the Ohio St. job. Doubt he would jump on it though.

Some Mizzou fan you are. You don't even know how to spell your head coach's name correctly. ****ing retard!

ohiobronco2
05-31-2011, 04:45 PM
Pinkle being talked about for the Ohio St. job. Doubt he would jump on it though.

I'd guess he is pretty far down their wish list. If they get hit with major sanctions they will have trouble getting Ed Gennero to coach there, if not they will get a premier name and by that I mean Meyer, Pelini, Stoops.

Inkana7
05-31-2011, 05:34 PM
I'd guess he is pretty far down their wish list. If they get hit with major sanctions they will have trouble getting Ed Gennero to coach there, if not they will get a premier name and by that I mean Meyer, Pelini, Stoops.

I really hope you mean one of the non-Bob Stoops, because I really doubt he leaves OU for OSU.

ohiobronco2
05-31-2011, 06:11 PM
I really hope you mean one of the non-Bob Stoops, because I really doubt he leaves OU for OSU.

Both Stoops have been mentioned. I doubt Bob leaves as well, he definitely won't if we get hammered with violations

Majik
05-31-2011, 07:23 PM
I love how Pryor drives a $25k car to the osu players only meeting today.

http://www.the-ozone.net/11-12images/football/TPryor-05-30-11-car.jpg

Kaylore
05-31-2011, 07:33 PM
Some Mizzou fan you are. You don't even know how to spell your head coach's name correctly. ****ing retard!

:erm?:

Woah nelly!!!

ZachKC
05-31-2011, 07:45 PM
I'd guess he is pretty far down their wish list. If they get hit with major sanctions they will have trouble getting Ed Gennero to coach there, if not they will get a premier name and by that I mean Meyer, Pelini, Stoops.

Eh, I doubt he is that far down. He took a Mizzou program that was flailing and has made them a good (close to great but not quite there) team for a while now. He puts guys in the league. There are a lot of Mizzou players doing good work on Sundays.

Michigan wanted him when they had an opening...he didn't even interview with them.

ZachKC
05-31-2011, 07:47 PM
<img src="http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=15709&stc=1&d=1147936819">

Woah nelly!!!

Yea. **** just got real.

houghtam
05-31-2011, 09:38 PM
This article is totally lacking in any substance. He just says that Ohio State is complying in a general sense without naming specifics and then says because of that they will get a lesser penalty. If the author's point is that it won't be as severe because they are helping the investigation, I disagree. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

USC was largely nailed for the incident involving Bush. The penalties were addressed specific to that one year. The information coming out about THE osu are painting a picture that spans a decade of non-compliance and either willful disobedience, or a complete lack of effort in self-policing and cover-up. Then repeated lying until they were caught. They might be participating now, but it's only because they got caught and can't hide it anymore. I'm not convinced the penalties won't be as severe as USC's.

Oh, believe me. I'm not saying their punishment won't be as harsh, and if I had my druthers I'd give them the death penalty. I'm just not holding my breath. My thinking is that Tressel resigned because the university pulled him in and said "look, we're going to be facing some serious consequences if we don't part ways, so either quit or you're fired." If the University can pin everything on King Sweatervest and distance themselves from his and his players' actions, the NCAA may be more lenient. I'm sure that's what OSU is banking on. What results of it I guess we'll have to wait until August to find out.

Evenrude
06-01-2011, 02:03 PM
I hate to be "this guy" but I have a great source that talks openly that if presented the opportunity Pelini WILL leave Nebraska fro O.S.U.

I think OSU is the one school that could pry Bo from Nebraska. Hopefully they don't come calling, maybe the temper will scare them off... he might pull a Woody Hayes on the sidelines.

DBroncos4life
06-01-2011, 02:46 PM
I think OSU is the one school that could pry Bo from Nebraska. Hopefully they don't come calling, maybe the temper will scare them off... he might pull a Woody Hayes on the sidelines.

If the NCAA hammers them then no coach will want to go there right away which I think hurts us. Dr Tom won't let him go without a plan or a fight though.

Rock Chalk
06-01-2011, 04:54 PM
The hammer is going to fall harder than a Tommy Lee pounding of Pam Anderson.

AND it couldn't happen to a ****tier school.

Florida, you're next bitches.

houghtam
06-01-2011, 06:14 PM
I love how Pryor drives a $25k car to the osu players only meeting today.

http://www.the-ozone.net/11-12images/football/TPryor-05-30-11-car.jpg

Man, when it rains, it pours...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6616791

Kaylore
06-01-2011, 07:55 PM
Oh, believe me. I'm not saying their punishment won't be as harsh, and if I had my druthers I'd give them the death penalty. I'm just not holding my breath. My thinking is that Tressel resigned because the university pulled him in and said "look, we're going to be facing some serious consequences if we don't part ways, so either quit or you're fired." If the University can pin everything on King Sweatervest and distance themselves from his and his players' actions, the NCAA may be more lenient. I'm sure that's what OSU is banking on. What results of it I guess we'll have to wait until August to find out.

I was speaking more to the article. The author waves his finger saying "not so fast" and then only speaks in general terms and doesn't make a case one way or the other. I am sure the University is trying very hard to put this all in Tressel's lap and he fell on this sword like a good soldier. My problem with that is this failed at multiple levels and it's not just the Coach's job to ensure full compliance. Not only that, but even if the coach is fired, that doesn't mean they can just avoid penalties. Bush was largely the culprit at USC but the entire school was penalized. The same will likely happen for OSU. Eleven years of lies and cover up take more than one willfully ignorant coach. This goes deep and the school should be hit hard.

Rock Chalk
06-02-2011, 09:34 AM
I was speaking more to the article. The author waves his finger saying "not so fast" and then only speaks in general terms and doesn't make a case one way or the other. I am sure the University is trying very hard to put this all in Tressel's lap and he fell on this sword like a good soldier. My problem with that is this failed at multiple levels and it's not just the Coach's job to ensure full compliance. Not only that, but even if the coach is fired, that doesn't mean they can just avoid penalties. Bush was largely the culprit at USC but the entire school was penalized. The same will likely happen for OSU. Eleven years of lies and cover up take more than one willfully ignorant coach. This goes deep and the school should be hit hard.

They cant put it all on Tressel's lap and they know it. They are going to try but every University has a compliancy department who report to the Athletic Director. These compliancy departments monitor everything, email, phone, everything. They are 100% responsible for making sure coaches, assistants and players do not do anything to compromise NCAA regulations.

This is then given to the Athletic Director and they are required to self-comply. If there is a failure and there is "lack of institutional control" (which really seems apparent here), then the entire Athletic Department is at fault and no amount of firing's is going to change that.

Too little too late for tOSU and I really, as a fan of college sports, demand the death penalty for them. They have not only repeatedly broken numerous NCAA regulations but there was no institutional control, no self-compliancy and a complete and utter lack of discipline in the heirarchy of the Athletic Department.

I would not be surprised if the AD isn't given the axe shortly as well.

enjolras
06-02-2011, 09:50 AM
In this case wasn't the big issue that Tressel received information and never notified the compliance department tho?

Pontius Pirate
06-02-2011, 01:01 PM
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TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-02-2011, 01:25 PM
In this case wasn't the big issue that Tressel received information and never notified the compliance department tho?

Yes.

And I'm not sure about RockChalk's allegations, but when I worked in a collegiate athletics office, the compliance officers didn't monitor phone calls, or emails, or anything of the sort. It was a smaller school, and a smaller athletic department, but nothing like that was even close to the reality.

The compliance officers were there to make sure the coaches and players knew the rules of compliance. Period. Doesn't sound like a lot of work, but there are a ****load of rules, and they were the ruling party on any questionable contact (hopefully before it was made) or anything that might compromise the department in the eyes of the NCAA.

I would be interested to hear more about them apparently tapping phone lines and reading emails...

Kaylore
06-02-2011, 01:26 PM
In this case wasn't the big issue that Tressel received information and never notified the compliance department tho?

Along with several others, yes. Over several years.

jhns
06-02-2011, 01:29 PM
I just hope Ohio St doesn't go after Bo. That is the one place I could see him leaving Nebraska for.

Bronco Yoda
06-02-2011, 01:53 PM
I hate SI. I'm not a fan of Ohio State or their football program but I truly dislike SI. It's such a hack magazine that relies on sensationalism. SI was the source for the bad articles about the Broncos after Elway retired and I'll never, ever forgive this hack magazine for that crap.

Too bad for Tressel, he was well respected and appeared to be a true gentleman. I hope he gets through this mess a better person and a wiser man for his mistakes.

That being said, screw SI.

That's when I dropped my SI subscription and never renewed it. I still will buy issues from time to time but probably never own a subscription again. I voted with my wallet.

SouthStndJunkie
06-02-2011, 02:10 PM
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houghtam
06-02-2011, 02:19 PM
Yes.

And I'm not sure about RockChalk's allegations, but when I worked in a collegiate athletics office, the compliance officers didn't monitor phone calls, or emails, or anything of the sort. It was a smaller school, and a smaller athletic department, but nothing like that was even close to the reality.

The compliance officers were there to make sure the coaches and players knew the rules of compliance. Period. Doesn't sound like a lot of work, but there are a ****load of rules, and they were the ruling party on any questionable contact (hopefully before it was made) or anything that might compromise the department in the eyes of the NCAA.

I would be interested to hear more about them apparently tapping phone lines and reading emails...

This.

The compliance department is there to educate, but wire-tapping is not within their realm of duties. If that were the case, then you would have to assume that most universities are in compliance, or in cahoots with their compliance department to cover it up.

My feeling is that this sort of stuff happens at most major universities, and definitely at every university in the 6 power conferences. However, I seriously doubt it takes place to this extent at many universities. A $500 handshake here and there, while still not excusable IMO, is a far cry from what's been going on at OSU.

If the NCAA can prove that there is a history of violations and a culture of corruption that involved the university, I would not be surprised if they threw the book at them. If the university is successful in painting this as the actions of a few that they were not aware of, the punishment will be considerably smaller.

Regardless of what they find, there's no way in hell the NCAA will hand out the Death Penalty to OSU. Although the NCAA can hand out the Death Penalty for extremely serious violations, precedent indicates that they would have to be put on some sort of probation before this would be a possibility. Add in the fact that OSU is a huge university with a large national following, and I just don't see the Death Penalty as a possibility.

My guess on what will happen is:

- Pryor suspended for the 2011 season
- OSU gets a 1 year ban on postseason and bowl games
- OSU loses 5-10 scholarships for the next 3 years
- OSU placed on 5 year probation

Residual effects of this I think will include:

- OSU may voluntarily suspend other players involved in the scandal for more than the original 5 games or the entire season
- OSU's Athletic Director resigns or is fired

Requiem
06-02-2011, 08:20 PM
Good, because Ohio State is dogpiss. The whole state is worthless. They've been wallowing in depression since 1850's.

rmsanger
06-02-2011, 08:41 PM
Anybody really care about OSU or Michigan? Unless you're from either state or went there both schools are meh.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-03-2011, 07:17 AM
Anybody really care about OSU or Michigan? Unless you're from either state or went there both schools are meh.

Actually, a lot of people care about both.

In fact, if you're a reader, pick up War as They Knew It. An interesting look at American History and War as seen by Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler. There's a lot of great information in there, and some things that, as a Michigan fan (since I was a little kid; my mother went to undergrad there), I found very interesting.

Good read, and you can get through it in a couple days.

SouthStndJunkie
06-03-2011, 08:50 AM
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ZachKC
06-03-2011, 09:03 AM
Anybody really care about OSU or Michigan? Unless you're from either state or went there both schools are meh.

The answer to anyone who is honest is "yes"

I am not a fan of either of them. I happen to like Michigan but don't like OSU. Both of them are still elite programs and coaching gigs in NCAA.

They both offer some of the best most and intense home field atmospheres in the country.

Having said all that. Go Mizzou. :approve:

houghtam
06-03-2011, 10:53 AM
The answer to anyone who is honest is "yes"

I am not a fan of either of them. I happen to like Michigan but don't like OSU. Both of them are still elite programs and coaching gigs in NCAA.

They both offer some of the best most and intense home field atmospheres in the country.

Having said all that. Go Mizzou. :approve:

I hate em both but I agree with the above posters. If you think they're irrelevant, you should probably stop watching college football.

SouthStndJunkie
06-04-2011, 02:04 PM
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ohiobronco2
06-04-2011, 08:56 PM
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LOLROFL!

SoCalBronco
06-04-2011, 09:33 PM
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ROFL! Very nice.

Ahh Ohio State....my old friend...revenge is a dish that is best served cold. It will be very cold after the NCAA gets through with you.

I'm going to enjoy every moment of this.

Retribution is sweet. The program needs to be completely and totally brought to its knees. I hope this is alot worse than U$C.

****ing bury them.

houghtam
06-04-2011, 11:34 PM
ROFL! Very nice.

Ahh Ohio State....my old friend...revenge is a dish that is best served cold. It will be very cold after the NCAA gets through with you.

I'm going to enjoy every moment of this.

Retribution is sweet. The program needs to be completely and totally brought to its knees. I hope this is alot worse than U$C.

****ing bury them.

Not to derail the OSU conversation, but there's not a whole lot else that's going to happen with this situation until August. Just a question for you Big Ten outsiders.

Let's say things stay as they stand. Ohio State loses its five players for the first five games of the season, and Tressel is gone, nothing more.

What are you guys' thoughts on how the Big Ten plays out and why? Does OSU still have a shot at the Big Ten title? Do you believe Michigan State is legit? Will U of M make a resurgence? Does Wisconsin move into the top spot? Any other thoughts?

ohiobronco2
06-05-2011, 06:43 AM
Not to derail the OSU conversation, but there's not a whole lot else that's going to happen with this situation until August. Just a question for you Big Ten outsiders.

Let's say things stay as they stand. Ohio State loses its five players for the first five games of the season, and Tressel is gone, nothing more.

What are you guys' thoughts on how the Big Ten plays out and why? Does OSU still have a shot at the Big Ten title? Do you believe Michigan State is legit? Will U of M make a resurgence? Does Wisconsin move into the top spot? Any other thoughts?

If OSU does not face anymore sanctions, it's a two horse race. They may have a set back at Miami and against Michigan St. If they start 5-0 the game at Nebraska will most likely determine the Big 10 champ. Wisconsin is great, but they lost a lot of talent and they aren't a school that merely re loads. Michigan will be inspired to beat OSU with Brady Hoke (who really gets the rivalry, which is great), but they are so far behind talent wise that it likely won't happen this year.

KipCorrington25
06-05-2011, 11:58 AM
Yeah this is getting bad, McDaniels now even thinks Tressel is a liar and a cheat.

houghtam
06-05-2011, 04:56 PM
If OSU does not face anymore sanctions, it's a two horse race. They may have a set back at Miami and against Michigan St. If they start 5-0 the game at Nebraska will most likely determine the Big 10 champ. Wisconsin is great, but they lost a lot of talent and they aren't a school that merely re loads. Michigan will be inspired to beat OSU with Brady Hoke (who really gets the rivalry, which is great), but they are so far behind talent wise that it likely won't happen this year.

Just my opinion, but I don't think Nebraska will go over .500 in the Big Ten. We'll see.

ohiobronco2
06-05-2011, 07:15 PM
Just my opinion, but I don't think Nebraska will go over .500 in the Big Ten. We'll see.

Could be. I have no idea what to expect from them since they are in the Big 12. Time will tell.

DBroncos4life
06-05-2011, 08:39 PM
Just my opinion, but I don't think Nebraska will go over .500 in the Big Ten. We'll see.

Lol thats rich. We have the best trio of players on D in the nation. Our D will keep us in every game.

houghtam
06-05-2011, 11:51 PM
Lol thats rich. We have the best trio of players on D in the nation. Our D will keep us in every game.

Good defenses are nothing new to the Big Ten. Again, we'll see what happens after all the games are played, but I'm betting Nebraska at least loses at Wisconsin and at Penn State, as well as at home against Michigan State and Iowa.

DBroncos4life
06-06-2011, 01:27 AM
Good defenses are nothing new to the Big Ten. Again, we'll see what happens after all the games are played, but I'm betting Nebraska at least loses at Wisconsin and at Penn State, as well as at home against Michigan State and Iowa.

This should be our best D we have had in the last few years and if you have been paying attention our D has been damn good over the last few years.

We won't lose to Wisconsin and we sure as hell won't lose to Iowa at home. The only games that scare me are Michigan and Penn State cause they are back to back.

jhns
06-06-2011, 08:56 AM
Good defenses are nothing new to the Big Ten. Again, we'll see what happens after all the games are played, but I'm betting Nebraska at least loses at Wisconsin and at Penn State, as well as at home against Michigan State and Iowa.

LOL

Bo is going to make the Big 10 look like a joke.

houghtam
06-06-2011, 06:52 PM
LOL

Bo is going to make the Big 10 look like a joke.

We'll see. Because you know, the Big 12 North was such a tough division.

Edit: Anyone care to make a friendly wager? Say, changing avatars fr a given amount of time to whatever (TOS-friendly) the winner says?

DBroncos4life
06-06-2011, 08:47 PM
We'll see. Because you know, the Big 12 North was such a tough division.

Edit: Anyone care to make a friendly wager? Say, changing avatars fr a given amount of time to whatever (TOS-friendly) the winner says?

Hell yeah I will. If NU goes .500 or better I get your avatar for 4 months if they don't you can have mine.

Kid A
06-06-2011, 09:02 PM
Good defenses are nothing new to the Big Ten. Again, we'll see what happens after all the games are played, but I'm betting Nebraska at least loses at Wisconsin and at Penn State, as well as at home against Michigan State and Iowa.

I'm not as upbeat a Nebraska fan as the other two. To be sure, I like the team we bring into next year, but still some big questions on offense and a brutal Big Ten schedule, even if a few of the big dogs are down. No easy road games in this league, and we play at several of the toughest.

Still, with 2, maybe even 3 losses we still can get through to the championship game, which should be the goal. Right now I think NU is arguably the top team going into the season, but it isn't by very much and it would hardly be an upset for them to lose a few.

What kind of team is Mich St bringing back this season? I do think people are overlooking what a solid season they had last year when they tied for the league title. At Sparty is as tough as any other on the schedule. I think I'll enjoy this season, though, seeing as I'm willing to accept that wins will be tough at times. Should be very competitive.

SouthStndJunkie
06-06-2011, 09:27 PM
I think Nebraska will probably go 8-4 next year....maybe 9-3 if things fall right for them.

houghtam
06-06-2011, 09:28 PM
I'm not as upbeat a Nebraska fan as the other two. To be sure, I like the team we bring into next year, but still some big questions on offense and a brutal Big Ten schedule, even if a few of the big dogs are down. No easy road games in this league, and we play at several of the toughest.

Still, with 2, maybe even 3 losses we still can get through to the championship game, which should be the goal. Right now I think NU is arguably the top team going into the season, but it isn't by very much and it would hardly be an upset for them to lose a few.

What kind of team is Mich St bringing back this season? I do think people are overlooking what a solid season they had last year when they tied for the league title. At Sparty is as tough as any other on the schedule. I think I'll enjoy this season, though, seeing as I'm willing to accept that wins will be tough at times. Should be very competitive.

They surprised even the most die-hard homers last year.

Going into this year the only key players they've lost are linebacker Greg Jones and corner Chris Rucker. Those two will be tough to replace, but last year was an incredibly young team.

I believe they are returning 8 starters on defense, and on offense, their leading rushers were a sophomore and a freshman. Kirk Cousins is back, 3 of their top 4 receivers return, and I think their entire offensive line returns, as well.

Michigan State is going to be a hard team to beat this year, IMO.

The way I see it, the Big Ten is a two horse race this year, even if Ohio State doesn't get any more sanctions. I think Wisconsin and Michigan State are at the top. Next tier would be Ohio State, Iowa and Penn State, with Michigan and Nebraska wild cards that could make a play. Illinois and Purdue will fight for a bowl game, and Northwestern, Indiana and Minnesota will fight for the bottom.

jhns
06-07-2011, 06:36 AM
We'll see. Because you know, the Big 12 North was such a tough division.

Edit: Anyone care to make a friendly wager? Say, changing avatars fr a given amount of time to whatever (TOS-friendly) the winner says?

Nebraska also didn't have a problem in the North....

I will make a bet. What is the bet you had in mind?

jhns
06-07-2011, 06:39 AM
I'm not as upbeat a Nebraska fan as the other two. To be sure, I like the team we bring into next year, but still some big questions on offense and a brutal Big Ten schedule, even if a few of the big dogs are down. No easy road games in this league, and we play at several of the toughest.


The schedules for the next two years are pretty brutal. It should be fun!

houghtam
06-07-2011, 12:04 PM
Nebraska also didn't have a problem in the North....

I will make a bet. What is the bet you had in mind?

I will bet Nebraska doesn't go over .500 in Big Ten play this year. If they do, I have to change my avatar for 6 months to something of your choice, and if they don't you have to change yours to something of my choice. TOS approved.

jhns
06-07-2011, 12:10 PM
I will bet Nebraska doesn't go over .500 in Big Ten play this year. If they do, I have to change my avatar for 6 months to something of your choice, and if they don't you have to change yours to something of my choice. TOS approved.

I'll take that bet.

I will probably lose either way though as I most likely won't remember this, even if I win, by that time.

ohiobronco2
06-07-2011, 12:37 PM
Nebraska is a great team with great tradition and fans. They are also coming into the conference at the right time with traditional powers having trouble. If OSU does not get hit with LOIC (which I don't believe they will) and all they have to deal with is 5 players missing 5 games, they will contend. They play Miami in Miami with a new coach (yes Tressel is gone, but I'm sure the philosophy will remain the same), new scheme and perhaps a new QB. Miami lost quite a bit of talent to the draft if I'm not mistaken (so did we, but we are OSU, we just reload). Michigan St will be tough, but the fact that it is at home helps. I think people are giving Wisconsin way too much credit. Look at their losses, Tolzien, Clay, Kendricks, Watt, Gilreath, Carimi and other I'm missing. Michigan is still a couple of years away (Hoke is going to be solid). Their D was terrible, alot of it was scheme, but RR didn't recruit great talent there. I think he believed that slot WR's could play any position. Should be competitive.

houghtam
06-07-2011, 01:55 PM
I'll take that bet.

I will probably lose either way though as I most likely won't remember this, even if I win, by that time.

Meh, honestly I probably won't remember either, it's the taking of the bet that counts IMO.

Either way like ohiobronco said, it'll be an interesting season. I think people are underestimating both the actual and psychological impact of losing the coach and 5 key players for 5 games will have...sure Ohio State may win 3 or 4 of those first 5 games, but when those players come back, they'll basically be thrown right into the heart of the Big Ten schedule. IMO it's not out of the realm of possibility that OSU starts the Big Ten season 0-4. Do I think that will happen? No. But would I be surprised if it did? Not really.

ohiobronco2
06-07-2011, 03:11 PM
Meh, honestly I probably won't remember either, it's the taking of the bet that counts IMO.

Either way like ohiobronco said, it'll be an interesting season. I think people are underestimating both the actual and psychological impact of losing the coach and 5 key players for 5 games will have...sure Ohio State may win 3 or 4 of those first 5 games, but when those players come back, they'll basically be thrown right into the heart of the Big Ten schedule. IMO it's not out of the realm of possibility that OSU starts the Big Ten season 0-4. Do I think that will happen? No. But would I be surprised if it did? Not really.

Pryor does not get his job back, obviously. ROFL! I doubt Herron gets his RB job back. You will get the LT in Adams and Posey back for game 5. Will it impact them, sure, but (not trying to sound arrogant) the biggest programs in the country just replace kids. I think OSU will be fine. Maybe 3 losses, but I doubt that many.

jhns
06-07-2011, 06:36 PM
I'm just looking forward to visiting Big 10 stadiums. I think Nebraska will do good but the schedule is the hardest one I can remember. The schedule won't matter much because Pelini is the ****.

SouthStndJunkie
06-07-2011, 07:17 PM
Terrelle Pryor signings netted thousands

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

Hercules Rockefeller
06-07-2011, 09:23 PM
And Sports by Brooks is saying there's a paper trail (checks). God Pryor and that photographer are retarded.

DBroncos4life
06-07-2011, 09:30 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong here but from what I have read from other boards didn't the NCAA allow Pryor to play in the bowl game because he agreed to stay in school and serve the 5 game suspension? You would think if that was true that NCAA isn't going to look to kindly on him leaving.

houghtam
06-08-2011, 11:10 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong here but from what I have read from other boards didn't the NCAA allow Pryor to play in the bowl game because he agreed to stay in school and serve the 5 game suspension? You would think if that was true that NCAA isn't going to look to kindly on him leaving.

No, that was Tressel's doing.

SouthStndJunkie
06-18-2011, 12:43 AM
Ohio State's new head coach, Luke Fickell, reminds me of Rob Riggle, of "Step Brothers" - "Randy here is gonna eat your dick like Kobayashi." and "Hangover" as the dick cop - "In the face!!!!" fame.

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FADERPROOF
06-18-2011, 06:45 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong here but from what I have read from other boards didn't the NCAA allow Pryor to play in the bowl game because he agreed to stay in school and serve the 5 game suspension? You would think if that was true that NCAA isn't going to look to kindly on him leaving.

The NCAA allowed the players to play regardless, Tressel told them that he would not play them in the sugar bowl if they weren't going to come back for their senior year.

With Pryor now gone(thank god), time to gear up for tje Braxton Miller era.

FADERPROOF
06-18-2011, 06:49 AM
Terrelle Pryor signings netted thousands

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

Taking a trip up to the big house this coming season for the eastern michigan game, it was bound to happen with my girlfriend and a best friend both being Michigan fans, hope its a decent game.

Seen the Michigan throw back jerseys that they'll be wearing for the Notre Dame game?

StugotsIII
06-21-2011, 03:28 PM
The funny thing about the SI story is how much of it turned out to be total BS. That, along with the "car scandal" which was just cleared by the Ohio BMV and numerous other bogus stories.

Bottom line...

Tressel was forced out by a promonant OSU booster. That is a fact. This booster couldn't take the media attention and caved, in turn threatening to withhold MILLIONS if Tressel stayed.

In the end...Tressel protected his players and payed the price for it.

FADERPROOF
06-21-2011, 03:37 PM
The funny thing about the SI story is how much of it turned out to be total BS. That, along with the "car scandal" which was just cleared by the Ohio BMV and numerous other bogus stories.

Bottom line...

Tressel was forced out by a promonant OSU booster. That is a fact. This booster couldn't take the media attention and caved, in turn threatening to withhold MILLIONS if Tressel stayed.

In the end...Tressel protected his players and payed the price for it.

Im HOPING that George Dohrmann loses his job for that BS Sports Illustrated article, what a sham!