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RhymesayersDU
04-29-2011, 09:16 AM
Didn't see this posted. From Insider:

2a - Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
2b - Christian Ballard, DT, Iowa

Broncoman13
04-29-2011, 09:19 AM
Didn't see this posted. From Insider:

2a - Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
2b - Christian Ballard, DT, Iowa

Not big on Ballard myself... Would love to have Williams tho!

Who were the other DTs available per his mock? Can you link the whole draft... On via mobile right now.

Ray Finkle
04-29-2011, 09:20 AM
why not draft Don Rickles....he'd bring more to the table.

Rabb
04-29-2011, 09:21 AM
I am an Iowa homer, but Ballard and the whole drug thing bothers me

he is talented, but I am not sure about him right now

Gcver2ver3
04-29-2011, 09:21 AM
i figure this thread is appropriate to post PFTs mock...

2a - Austin...

2b - Rudolph...

Rabb
04-29-2011, 09:22 AM
i figure this thread is appropriate to post PFTs mock...

2a - Austin...

2b - Rudolph...

I'd be very happy with this

LRtagger
04-29-2011, 09:23 AM
Walter's 2nd round

2a - Stephen Paea (http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011spaea_greg.php), NT, Oregon State

2b -Benjamin Ijalana (http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011bijalana_greg.php), OT/G, Villanova

orinjkrush
04-29-2011, 09:23 AM
i figure this thread is appropriate to post PFTs mock...

2a - Austin...

2b - Rudolph...


This.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
04-29-2011, 09:24 AM
I'd be very happy with this

I'd be pleased. I think TE can be had in the third, though...

orinjkrush
04-29-2011, 09:25 AM
Walter's 2nd round

2a - Stephen Paea (http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011spaea_greg.php), NT, Oregon State

2b -Benjamin Ijalana (http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011bijalana_greg.php), OT/G, Villanova

or this. but not Walter's.

Gcver2ver3
04-29-2011, 09:25 AM
I'd be pleased. I think TE can be had in the third, though...

absolutely...but Rudolph is a 1st rd talent IMO...

that guy is a monster...

Gcver2ver3
04-29-2011, 09:26 AM
Walter's 2nd round

2a - Stephen Paea (http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011spaea_greg.php), NT, Oregon State

2b -Benjamin Ijalana (http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011bijalana_greg.php), OT/G, Villanova

well i like half of it...

RhymesayersDU
04-29-2011, 09:27 AM
Not big on Ballard myself... Would love to have Williams tho!

Who were the other DTs available per his mock? Can you link the whole draft... On via mobile right now.

Sorry no can do, I'm browsing ESPN on my work computer but the OMane on my phone. It's on ESPN's front page. I do know according to Kiper we pass on Paea, I know a ton of people like him.

McShay:
2a Justin Houston, DE, Georgia.
2b Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame.
3 Jaiquawn Jarrett, S, Temple.
6a Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky.
6b Cortez Allen, CB, Citadel.
7 Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware

Rabb
04-29-2011, 09:27 AM
I'd be pleased. I think TE can be had in the third, though...

agreed...he is pretty talented though and would give us back that Scheffler type threat receiving which with Tebow's development could mean a lot

RhymesayersDU
04-29-2011, 09:38 AM
McShay:
2a Justin Houston, DE, Georgia.
2b Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame.
3 Jaiquawn Jarrett, S, Temple.
6a Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky.
6b Cortez Allen, CB, Citadel.
7 Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware

Take this with a grain of salt, I didn't realize this was McShay's 7-round mock from before round 1 and hasn't been updated.

Chris
04-29-2011, 09:46 AM
agreed...he is pretty talented though and would give us back that Scheffler type threat receiving which with Tebow's development could mean a lot

He would need to be a lot more better than Scheffler.

RhymesayersDU
04-29-2011, 09:49 AM
Updated McShay round 2 mock:

2a - Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
2b - Mason Foster, ILB, Washington

Inkana7
04-29-2011, 09:50 AM
If Austin is there at 2a we have to take him, right? Him or Paea?

Ray Finkle
04-29-2011, 10:01 AM
If Austin is there at 2a we have to take him, right? Him or Paea?

Austin has better talent but is lazy....Paea is a beast with a non-stop motor....good questions. I'd lean on the guy that isn't lazy.

MABroncoFan
04-29-2011, 10:07 AM
It'd be nice to trade back some and get at least a 4th rounder, and still get Austin or Paea.

Rohirrim
04-29-2011, 10:10 AM
To walk away from the two first picks with Von Miller and Paea would be some form of paradise to me. Like walking through the Sahara and finding an oasis. ;D

DomCasual
04-29-2011, 10:11 AM
why not draft Don Rickles....he'd bring more to the table.

No, he wouldn't. That's just silly. At his age, he would get killed out there.

Ray Finkle
04-29-2011, 10:13 AM
No, he wouldn't. That's just silly. At his age, he would get killed out there.

He's the Mick! He'd find a way....

DomCasual
04-29-2011, 10:14 AM
He's the Mick! He'd find a way....

Okay, I'll give you that he might be okay for a year or two. But we're just not close enough to be able to have that luxury.

Rohirrim
04-29-2011, 10:15 AM
Bunch of hocky pucks.

listopencil
04-29-2011, 10:15 AM
Boooooooooooo!

BroncoLifer
04-29-2011, 10:28 AM
why not draft Don Rickles....he'd bring more to the table.

He'd be our best trash talker since Shannon Sharpe.

titan
04-29-2011, 10:38 AM
Elway and company did a solid job last night with the Miller selection and not making any stupid trades to move up into the end of round 1. But tonight we'll get a better idea of how good this new regime really is at the draft.

tsiguy96
04-29-2011, 10:39 AM
ballard is strong as an ox and has the iowa work ethic, dont discount him.

my question, is paea a 1st rounder in most years? or did he fall to his grade?

Agamemnon
04-29-2011, 10:43 AM
Didn't see this posted. From Insider:

2a - Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
2b - Christian Ballard, DT, Iowa

So now we know who we aren't picking...:~ohyah!:

srphoenix
04-29-2011, 10:43 AM
I would tend to think the depth of the draft at DT made Paea fall a bit. When Wilkerson was still on the board for the Jets that meant that Paea and Austin were still going to be available in the 2nd round. I also wonder if Paea is much more suited for a 4-3 than a 3-4 as he may not be big enough to be a nose tackle and may not be fast enough to be a 5 tech, I think he is going to be a beast on a 4-3 line though. I wouldn't be unhappy with Austin either just so long as we take DT with our 2a pick.

Bahshay
04-29-2011, 10:47 AM
My preference would be Paea and Powe. Paea is more of a 1 gap DT, we need a mammoth DT next to him that takes some blockers away from our pass rushers. Kenrick Ellis woudl work too, but i like Powe's lack of off the field issues a little better.

I wouldn't be too upset with the ND TE, but this is a great opportunity to turn around our absolutely awful defense. Two DTs in the 2nd and an ILB or S in the 3rd would make me very optimistic about our defense going into this season.

Agamemnon
04-29-2011, 10:59 AM
Two DTs in the 2nd and an ILB or S in the 3rd would make me very optimistic about our defense going into this season.

Aside from Miller, I really don't think rookies are going to be able to do much to fix our defense this year. Coaching is going to be key for any immediate improvement to happen. DTs in particular rarely do very well as rookies. At least those not named Suh.

Dedhed
04-29-2011, 11:05 AM
Walter's 2nd round

2a - Stephen Paea (http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011spaea_greg.php), NT, Oregon State

2b -Benjamin Ijalana (http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011bijalana_greg.php), OT/G, Villanova
I would love that!

Bahshay
04-29-2011, 11:15 AM
Aside from Miller, I really don't think rookies are going to be able to do much to fix our defense this year. Coaching is going to be key for any immediate improvement to happen. DTs in particular rarely do very well as rookies. At least those not named Suh.

I'll take rookie DTs learning on the job over the crap we have now. At least they will be interesting to watch.

We need to rebuild one step at a time. We are going to suck next year. Hopefully it wont be as bad as this year, but we will certainly suck for at least one more season. Lets draft guys that take awhile to develop now and let them all go through growing pains at the same time as Tebow, Decker, last year's OL picks, etc. Next year, we can use some higher picks on the positions that are more likely to make a rookie impact, like RBs and TEs.

Broncoman13
04-29-2011, 11:25 AM
Austin has better talent but is lazy....Paea is a beast with a non-stop motor....good questions. I'd lean on the guy that isn't lazy.

That is the really tough question they may have to face at 36 in a few hours. Do you go with the super strength, non-stop motor, and great attitude... but potential injury risk in Stephen Paea? Or do you go with the uber talented (top 10 talented), bigger, faster, more athletic Marvin Austin with a bunch of yellow flags for character?

I'd almost go for the safer Stephen Paea...

Ray Finkle
04-29-2011, 11:28 AM
That is the really tough question they may have to face at 36 in a few hours. Do you go with the super strength, non-stop motor, and great attitude... but potential injury risk in Stephen Paea? Or do you go with the uber talented (top 10 talented), bigger, faster, more athletic Marvin Austin with a bunch of yellow flags for character?

I'd almost go for the safer Stephen Paea...

I shoot for Paea as well....plus he talks funny as an epic win.

pricejj
04-29-2011, 11:54 AM
1. Stephen Paea had more production in college than Marvin Austin
2. Stephen Paea is the strongest player in the draft (broke the record at the combine)
3. Stephen Paea is an All-American.
4. Marvin Austin was suspended last year, and never had above average tackles or sacks.

epicSocialism4tw
04-29-2011, 12:54 PM
Updated McShay round 2 mock:

2a - Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
2b - Mason Foster, ILB, Washington

That would be fantastic. Almost too good to be true. Miller, Paea, and Foster?

That's getting serious about the front 7.

epicSocialism4tw
04-29-2011, 12:57 PM
That is the really tough question they may have to face at 36 in a few hours. Do you go with the super strength, non-stop motor, and great attitude... but potential injury risk in Stephen Paea? Or do you go with the uber talented (top 10 talented), bigger, faster, more athletic Marvin Austin with a bunch of yellow flags for character?

I'd almost go for the safer Stephen Paea...

We need pacific islanders on this team.

Paea was a rugby player. Tough as nails.

gunns
04-29-2011, 01:00 PM
agreed...he is pretty talented though and would give us back that Scheffler type threat receiving which with Tebow's development could mean a lot

I just don't remember Scheffler being much of a threat. He had moments but nothing consistent. Say Sharpe and I will probably start drooling.

TheChamp24
04-29-2011, 01:07 PM
I'd be estatic with Paea and if Aaron Williams fell, him as well.

Rabb
04-29-2011, 01:08 PM
I just don't remember Scheffler being much of a threat. He had moments but nothing consistent. Say Sharpe and I will probably start drooling.

I probably used a poor example in an attempt to make people forget the trades last year lol

I wish I could say Sharpe

Old Dude
04-29-2011, 01:52 PM
Updated McShay round 2 mock:

2a - Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
2b - Mason Foster, ILB, Washington

This wouldn't surprise me at all. Lots of local gushing about Mason Foster last week, and he could answer the MLB quandry.

Popcorn Sutton
04-29-2011, 02:05 PM
We need pacific islanders on this team.

Paea was a rugby player. Tough as nails.

I'm not sure but I think I saw he pressed 225 49 times?? That is sick sick sick if it's true.

Dedhed
04-29-2011, 02:12 PM
I'm not sure but I think I saw he pressed 225 49 times?? That is sick sick sick if it's true.

For your own eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2cWddxHdI

oubronco
04-29-2011, 02:16 PM
1. Stephen Paea had more production in college than Marvin Austin
2. Stephen Paea is the strongest player in the draft (broke the record at the combine)
3. Stephen Paea is an All-American.
4. Marvin Austin was suspended last year, and never had above average tackles or sacks.

Paea it is then

RunSilentRunDeep
04-29-2011, 02:37 PM
For your own eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2cWddxHdI

Short arms. :~ohyah!:

Requiem
04-29-2011, 02:40 PM
The Broncos probably feel comfortable with Paea, Austin and Jenkins on the board as their next three guys, probably with Jenkins being the sleeper. I expect us to trade down with one of our selections.

Popcorn Sutton
04-29-2011, 02:42 PM
For your own eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2cWddxHdI

Unreal.

orinjkrush
04-29-2011, 04:01 PM
follow Bellicheck's strategy: NEVER trade out of the second. trade into it anytime it makes sense. best value has been empirically shown in the second.