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Gutless Drunk
04-26-2011, 11:55 AM
Demaryius Thomas: Broncos were too optimistic on Thomas rehab

The Denver Post confirms the Broncos initial timetable on Demaryius Thomas' rehab from Achilles tendon surgery was "too optimistic."
John Elway admitted as much last week when he said the Broncos hoped to have Thomas back "halfway" through next season. Mid-October, eight months removed from surgery, is a realistic timetable for a return to the practice field. With the caveat that medical technology has come a long way in 20 years, NFL skill-position players have a poor track record of staying healthy and effective following Achilles

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=5700&line=202662&spln=1

2KBack
04-26-2011, 11:57 AM
Booooo....I really like that kid, not just as a player

*WARHORSE*
04-26-2011, 12:06 PM
Me too.

oubronco
04-26-2011, 12:17 PM
I doubt he'll ever be the same

Mountain Bronco
04-26-2011, 12:19 PM
Bustorama. His injury history should have made us shy away from him, but it is what it is. I really hope Tebow works out, so we get something out of that draft.

TheReverend
04-26-2011, 12:22 PM
It's always smart to take a player first at his position when he isnt rated first at his position and is injured.

vancejohnson82
04-26-2011, 12:25 PM
It's always smart to take a player first at his position when he isnt rated first at his position and is injured.

at least he hasn't been arrested at a mall yet

bronco militia
04-26-2011, 12:27 PM
I doubt he'll ever be the same

what does that mean? never injured again?

Ha!

TheReverend
04-26-2011, 12:28 PM
at least he hasn't been arrested at a mall yet

I'll take saggy pants AND a hooker mother if it comes with production on Sundays, but that's just me.

Goobzilla
04-26-2011, 12:30 PM
I'll take saggy pants AND a hooker mother if it comes with production on Sundays, but that's just me.

What the Rev sez :notworthy

KevinJames
04-26-2011, 12:30 PM
I was so mad when we didn't draft Dez Bryant smh....

oh well lets not make the same mistake this year DRAFT PETERSON !

vancejohnson82
04-26-2011, 01:08 PM
I'll take saggy pants AND a hooker mother if it comes with production on Sundays, but that's just me.

I couldnt agree more....just being a bit dry

I still can't wrap my head around the thought process that went with the pick

Mogulseeker
04-26-2011, 01:12 PM
at least he hasn't been arrested at a mall yet

For his underwear showing.

broncosteven
04-26-2011, 01:13 PM
I couldnt agree more....just being a bit dry

I still can't wrap my head around the thought process that went with the pick

There are a lot of thought processes during the 18 month's mCd was here that I couldn't wrap my head around.

epicSocialism4tw
04-26-2011, 01:14 PM
I couldnt agree more....just being a bit dry

I still can't wrap my head around the thought process that went with the pick

I'm sure that anyone who interviewed Bryant figured out pretty quickly that he was as dumb as a rock, had the work ethic of a union guy, and the common sense of a schizophrenic.

Thomas on the other hand is a sparkling citizen with a ton of physical gifts. I still have hope that he'll make it in the league.

epicSocialism4tw
04-26-2011, 01:16 PM
For his underwear showing.

Several times.

That moron had been warned several times previously and didnt have the common sense just to go in there with his pants up so that people didnt have to look at his underwear.

Moron.

"Hey, here's a great idea! You know how every time we go into that mall they tell us that we cant walk around amongst children with our pants down? Why dont we go to the mall right now, and we all pull our pants down and walk around? That'll show 'em!" - Dez Bryant

vancejohnson82
04-26-2011, 01:18 PM
I'm sure that anyone who interviewed Bryant figured out pretty quickly that he was as dumb as a rock, had the work ethic of a union guy, and the common sense of a schizophrenic.

Thomas on the other hand is a sparkling citizen with a ton of physical gifts. I still have hope that he'll make it in the league.

true....but the injury thing was what had me shaking my head....

and I honestly think that wide reciever is one of hte positions that you can be a moron and still have an impact

meangene
04-26-2011, 01:18 PM
I'm sure that anyone who interviewed Bryant figured out pretty quickly that he was as dumb as a rock, had the work ethic of a union guy, and the common sense of a schizophrenic.

Thomas on the other hand is a sparkling citizen with a ton of physical gifts. I still have hope that he'll make it in the league.

I agree. And, the foot injury that he had at draft time last year did heal. He didn't have a prior history of injuries and certainly showed flashes of developing into a great receiver in the NFL. This one is just bad luck. Unfortunately, I have real concerns whether he can come back to full speed.

55CrushEm
04-26-2011, 01:33 PM
true....but the injury thing was what had me shaking my head....

and I honestly think that wide reciever is one of hte positions that you can be a moron and still have an impact

Tell that to the Patriots after drafting Chad Jackson.......

Physical beast.....no brains.....out of league.

vancejohnson82
04-26-2011, 01:54 PM
Tell that to the Patriots after drafting Chad Jackson.......

Physical beast.....no brains.....out of league.

true...I also think that wide reciever takes a deep level of work ethic...perfecting routes, etc...

all I'm saying is that there isn't a lot of intellectual responsibility when you are lined up outside and asked to run a go route

55CrushEm
04-26-2011, 01:56 PM
true...I also think that wide reciever takes a deep level of work ethic...perfecting routes, etc...

all I'm saying is that there isn't a lot of intellectual responsibility when you are lined up outside and asked to run a go route

If that's the case, then Chad Jackson was stupid beyond imagination......

DarkHorse
04-26-2011, 01:59 PM
I doubt he'll ever produce for us


I agree

Kaylore
04-26-2011, 02:17 PM
I doubt he'll ever be the same

Stokely came back from a blown Achilles in his thirties and was still productive. As productive? No, but he was thirty so it's hard to know whether that was age, the injury or both.

tsiguy96
04-26-2011, 02:19 PM
thomas had a limitless ceiling based on measurables, but damn this sucks. hope he is available for the playoffs :thumbsup:

WolfpackGuy
04-26-2011, 02:27 PM
Sucks because his health was never a question mark until just before the draft, but you should never draft an injured guy.

serious hops
04-26-2011, 02:48 PM
Shocker. I hate to say it, but it's hard not to think of him as a wasted pick at this point. Maybe he can still give us something down the road. But if we could do that draft over again, I'd target Pouncey over Dez Bryant, and take a receiver like Golden Tate later.

razorwire77
04-26-2011, 03:28 PM
I feel for the kid. Shut him down for the entire year and allow him a complete
rehabilitation. Hopefully, he'll be able to produce in 2013, but it looks pretty bleak.

robbieopperude
04-26-2011, 03:32 PM
If that's the case, then Chad Jackson was stupid beyond imagination......


I don't think Chad Jackson was rated nearly as highly as Dez Bryant. Dez was considered better than Crabtree who was a Top 10 pick the year before. It was his maturity factor that had him rated even that low. On physical ability Dez was probably a top 5 talent last year. Chad Jackson on the other hand was never considered a top 5 talent coming out of Florida. I remember he had the "Florida WR" label on him because they are rarely productive after they come out of college. He was ranked around the 15 to 20th best player in the draft and some mocks had him going second round. I do remember I wanted him in the second.

Big difference in how the two WR's graded out.

robbieopperude
04-26-2011, 03:34 PM
Side Note: D.Thomas looked pretty decent when he was out on the field. McD overvalued character but I don't think he completely missed with this pick. He made a mistake taking Thomas over Bryant from a talent on the board standpoint but Thomas to me looked pretty deserving of a pick between 25 and 35. So only a slight reach.

Second Note: It was just plain stupid to put a guy that big back there to return kickoffs. He looked completely awkard and it didn't surprise me he got hurt tyring to return kickoffs.

epicSocialism4tw
04-26-2011, 03:39 PM
Side Note: D.Thomas looked pretty decent when he was out on the field. McD overvalued character but I don't think he completely missed with this pick. He made a mistake taking Thomas over Bryant from a talent on the board standpoint but Thomas to me looked pretty deserving of a pick between 25 and 35. So only a slight reach.

Second Note: It was just plain stupid to put a guy that big back there to return kickoffs. He looked completely awkard and it didn't surprise me he got hurt tyring to return kickoffs.

No doubt. He ended up with a lower leg injury.

DarkHorse
04-26-2011, 03:40 PM
Side Note: D.Thomas looked pretty decent when he was out on the field. McD overvalued character but I don't think he completely missed with this pick. He made a mistake taking Thomas over Bryant from a talent on the board standpoint but Thomas to me looked pretty deserving of a pick between 25 and 35. So only a slight reach.

Second Note: It was just plain stupid to put a guy that big back there to return kickoffs. He looked completely awkard and it didn't surprise me he got hurt tyring to return kickoffs.


Awesome! He made it on the field what - 10 times? 4 of those he picked himself up gimpy.

Or are we counting pre-season too?

TheReverend
04-26-2011, 04:14 PM
Side Note: D.Thomas looked pretty decent when he was out on the field. McD overvalued character but I don't think he completely missed with this pick. He made a mistake taking Thomas over Bryant from a talent on the board standpoint but Thomas to me looked pretty deserving of a pick between 25 and 35. So only a slight reach.

Second Note: It was just plain stupid to put a guy that big back there to return kickoffs. He looked completely awkard and it didn't surprise me he got hurt tyring to return kickoffs.

How'd we end up with guys like Baker, Cox, etc then?

ZONA
04-26-2011, 04:33 PM
I think Thomas could still be one heck of a player. His speed might not be the same but he won't lose anything in the size and strength area. He's a big strong WR who had some good route skills and soft hands. I think he can still be a good WR for us next year. We shall see.

Rabb
04-26-2011, 04:37 PM
let's discount anything in his past for a second, if he can just recover from this it's a good start and that worries me in itself

he has speed and size that are tremendous, I just am not convinced he can play enough to make it matter at all, but alas I am rooting for him obviously

gunns
04-26-2011, 04:45 PM
Thing is you don't take a WR in the first round. We were no better with him and we'll be no worse without him. And quit taking players that already have injuries.

Rabb
04-26-2011, 04:47 PM
I truthfully think they gave into the "how will they replace Brandon Marshall" hype, we basically played without him and could have used that pick a lot smarter

epicSocialism4tw
04-26-2011, 04:53 PM
Thing is you don't take a WR in the first round. We were no better with him and we'll be no worse without him. And quit taking players that already have injuries.

Listen to this woman about football. She speaketh the truth.

oubronco
04-26-2011, 05:10 PM
I truthfully think they gave into the "how will they replace Brandon Marshall" hype, we basically played without him and could have used that pick a lot smarter

Defense would've been alot better option

Rabb
04-26-2011, 05:18 PM
Defense would've been alot better option

yessir

TonyR
04-26-2011, 06:04 PM
I'm sure that anyone who interviewed Bryant figured out pretty quickly that he was as dumb as a rock, had the work ethic of a union guy, and the common sense of a schizophrenic.

Thomas on the other hand is a sparkling citizen with a ton of physical gifts. I still have hope that he'll make it in the league.

I rarely agree with you but you're right on the money here. D Thomas over Dez Bryant was the right call. No way to know that the former was going to tear his Achilles, but there was a way to know that the latter was/is an idiot. And is everybody blind to the fact that the Cowboys are none to happy with him right now?

epicSocialism4tw
04-26-2011, 06:21 PM
I rarely agree with you but you're right on the money here. D Thomas over Dez Bryant was the right call. No way to know that the former was going to tear his Achilles, but there was a way to know that the latter was/is an idiot. And is everybody blind to the fact that the Cowboys are none to happy with him right now?

Bryant bucked against the Cowboys all season long.

I had my fill of that with Brandon Marshall, and Marshall wasnt nearly as stupid as Bryant.

KipCorrington25
04-26-2011, 07:07 PM
Hold him out until 2012 and bring him back as a TE.

Jay3
04-26-2011, 07:31 PM
The weird part is that the injury that got him wasn't the one he had. I know there's a tendency to say "well, it's all related," but really a blown achilles is a freak snapping of a very strong tendon. Clady did it playing basketball.

TheReverend
04-26-2011, 07:34 PM
The weird part is that the injury that got him wasn't the one he had. I know there's a tendency to say "well, it's all related," but really a blown achilles is a freak snapping of a very strong tendon. Clady did it playing basketball.

Achilles =/= ACL....

Lestat
04-26-2011, 07:43 PM
ugh, can't we catch a break with injury question guys that we draft? Toviessi,Foster & Middlebrooks weren't enough punishment?

Rock Chalk
04-26-2011, 07:59 PM
It's always smart to take a player first at his position when he isnt rated first at his position and is injured.

Dez.Mother.****ing.Bryant.

Hamrob
04-26-2011, 09:44 PM
Thomas is a beast. He is young and will recover.

I wanted us to draft him (over Dez) and I stick to that. He's a good kid. He will work hard to rehab. This team will get better and he will be a big part of Super Bowls 2-3 years down the road.

That's my thinking!

Baba Booey
04-26-2011, 10:15 PM
I'm still not giving up on him. He's still only 23, and showed a ton of promise when he was, indeed, on the field.

Thankfully we have WR depth, and this will only mean more playing time for another young guy in Decker.

I still think he'll recover and be 100% for the 2012 camp.

cutthemdown
04-26-2011, 11:46 PM
Bust

SonOfLe-loLang
04-27-2011, 12:10 AM
Defense would've been alot better option

I'm pretty convinced they had their heart seat on Sean Weatherspoon

broncocalijohn
04-27-2011, 01:09 AM
Thing is you don't take a WR in the first round. We were no better with him and we'll be no worse without him. And quit taking players that already have injuries.

Maybe the answer is dont take a WR with injuries IN THE FIRST ROUND. McD needed to find a quick replacement for trading Brandon Marshall. Too bad we couldnt all see what Lloyd would give us last year and go a different direction in the first round.

BlaK-Argentina
04-27-2011, 04:23 AM
We're still in good shape at WR but this blows. He looked pretty impressive last year in the little time he was in there.

Here's to hoping he makes a full recovery.

Tombstone RJ
04-27-2011, 11:25 AM
Too bad, DT had all sorts of upside. Perhaps he can still come back and be productive.

BroncoBuff
04-27-2011, 12:41 PM
Using two high picks on WRs with bum wheels ... not a great idea.

What's Decker's situation?

2KBack
04-27-2011, 12:42 PM
Using two high picks on WRs with bum wheels ... not a great idea.

What's Decker's situation?

perfectly healthy

BroncoLifer
04-27-2011, 12:49 PM
Using two high picks on WRs with bum wheels ... not a great idea.

What's Decker's situation?

For some reason, reminds a lot of people of Steve Watson.

razorwire77
04-27-2011, 01:56 PM
Willis flashed some potential in the preseason last year too. It'll be interesting to see what he does in camp this year (assuming we have training camp).

55CrushEm
04-27-2011, 02:02 PM
For some reason, reminds a lot of people of Steve Watson.

Or Eddie McCaffrey

:D

alkemical
04-27-2011, 02:06 PM
Or Eddie McCaffrey

:D

http://www.thehomeplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ThatsRacist.gif

Ambiguous
04-27-2011, 02:11 PM
thomas had a limitless ceiling based on measurables, but damn this sucks. hope he is available for the playoffs :thumbsup:

Does that mean he'll be ready in 2 or 3 years?

tsiguy96
04-27-2011, 02:18 PM
Does that mean he'll be ready in 2 or 3 years?

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID43585/images/DebbieDownerRachaelDratch.jpg