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Nuggets4
07-09-2005, 03:40 PM
I've been on a huge Barenaked Ladies kick lately. They're my big guilty pleasure. I don't know what it is, they just write music I like. "Gordon" is one of my favorite albums of all time. Plus, Steven Page (one of the lead singers) just came out with a solo project called "The Vanity Project", so I've been spinning that.

Disco Man
07-10-2005, 09:45 AM
The SOS band
The Cult
Elvis
The Donnas
Dokken
Mazzy Star

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-11-2005, 04:07 AM
Luuuuuuke!

http://www.stevelukather.net/images/pictures/krefeld13.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-11-2005, 04:32 AM
http://www.jeffbabko.com/images/starspangled.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
07-11-2005, 11:47 AM
I just got some of my old faves on disc and some new stuff:

Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Rage Against the Machine - Evil Empire
Pixies - Live at the BBC
XTC - Oranges & Lemons
Nirvana - Incesticide
Coldplay - X&Y
Raidiohead - Kid A

Northman
07-11-2005, 03:19 PM
Necrophagia- The Divine Art of Torture
Necrophagia- Harvest Ritual Vol 1

Hogan11
07-11-2005, 08:44 PM
Any fans of Holly Golightly on the board??

I'm gonna check her out this Saturday along with The Woggles (killer Athens GA garage band) and my fave local act The Priests......it should be cool, I'm looking forward to it.

Nuggets4
07-11-2005, 08:46 PM
Holy hell! Why was I not informed of Jeff Buckley previously in life?!? I'd always heard of him, heard he's a great musician and everything but never checked him out (my fault). Yesterday, I was hanging out with one of my buddies and I heard this incredible music. I asked him what it was and he replied "Grace" by Buckley. I immediately went out and bought a copy. It's all I've listened to since.

Nuggets4
07-13-2005, 11:29 AM
OK Hogan, need your expertice.

Finally got to hear the Pietasters......they're badass. I heard "Out All Night" on NCAA Football 2006 and then Fungus (XM 53) was playing another of their songs that I forgot the name of. Now I'm hooked. Best album to get? AllMusicGuide recommends "Willis". Usually I trust them, but want your feedback on this one.

Hogan11
07-13-2005, 03:31 PM
OK Hogan, need your expertice.

Finally got to hear the Pietasters......they're badass. I heard "Out All Night" on NCAA Football 2006 and then Fungus (XM 53) was playing another of their songs that I forgot the name of. Now I'm hooked. Best album to get? AllMusicGuide recommends "Willis". Usually I trust them, but want your feedback on this one.

I know this'll come across like some mindless fan who's unable to stand back and look at his fave band objectively but really.....you can't go wrong with any of their releases to date. Once you get them all, you can see the progression from an ace Ska band to one which masters a mix of Ska, Soul and Rock more effectively than any other band out there today IMO.

If I was just starting out, I'd go with Willis, Awsome Tape Mix #6 and Turbo....just because they can be found now much cheaper than the 1992-1996 collection.....but you'll want that one too once the others suck you in....being it a collection of early stuff, the production leaves much to be desired on the self-titled release and Comply, but it does contain the Strapped Live album which illustrates what a great and fun band they are to catch live.

They also have a DVD out that's pretty cool...Live At The 9:30 Club shows them delivering to a jammed packed crowd in all their drunken glory.

Pietasters releases can be found very cheap on Amazon, I'd try there....hope that helps.

Smiling Assassin27
07-13-2005, 04:15 PM
Allman Brothers-Eat A Peach
Faith No More-We Care A Lot
Black Sabbath-Mob Rules :militia:
Blues Traveler-Travelogue
Chris Isaak-Forever Blue
Beach Boys-Pet Sounds

Nuggets4
07-13-2005, 05:18 PM
If I was just starting out, I'd go with Willis, Awsome Tape Mix #6 and Turbo....just because they can be found now much cheaper than the 1992-1996 collection.....but you'll want that one too once the others suck you in....being it a collection of early stuff, the production leaves much to be desired on the self-titled release and Comply, but it does contain the Strapped Live album which illustrates what a great and fun band they are to catch live.

Thanks bro. I checked out Circuit City and found nothing (shocker), so I guess I'll do the amazon route. Probably start with Willis and go from there.

Hogan11
07-13-2005, 05:29 PM
Thanks bro. I checked out Circuit City and found nothing (shocker), so I guess I'll do the amazon route. Probably start with Willis and go from there.

This will give you a few more songs to check out:

http://www.myspace.com/thepietasters

Hogan11
07-13-2005, 05:51 PM
Here......check out my fave local act while you're at it....Rochester's greatest band IMO...The Priests

http://www.myspace.com/thepriests

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-16-2005, 03:14 AM
http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drf400/f434/f43403tjqej.jpg

Ripped my face off!

That Frank Gambale is one bad **********!

Sample Clips Here (http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,1720922,00.html)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-16-2005, 04:40 AM
OK - time for this week's music joke:

Q: You're standing in a dark alley and being threatened from both sides - on one side is an escaped con with a butcher knife and on the other side is a ferocious pit bull with rabies. You've got a gun but only one bullet....who do you shoot?

A: Kenny G

ak1971
07-16-2005, 07:33 AM
OK - time for this week's music joke:

Q: You're standing in a dark alley and being threatened from both sides - on one side is an escaped con with a butcher knife and on the other side is a ferocious pit bull with rabies. You've got a gun but only one bullet....who do you shoot?

A: Kenny G


Its Bush's fault

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-16-2005, 07:58 AM
Its Bush's fault

Bush made you come off the wall with that non-sequitur?

Figures.

Nuggets4
07-16-2005, 11:05 AM
OK - time for this week's music joke:

Q: You're standing in a dark alley and being threatened from both sides - on one side is an escaped con with a butcher knife and on the other side is a ferocious pit bull with rabies. You've got a gun but only one bullet....who do you shoot?

A: Kenny G

One of hte greatest things I have ever read was an article by Pat "God of Guitar" Metheney where he just ripped Kenny G a new one. It was BRUTAL. I need to find that online.....

Hogan11
07-16-2005, 11:11 AM
One of hte greatest things I have ever read was an article by Pat "God of Guitar" Metheney where he just ripped Kenny G a new one. It was BRUTAL. I need to find that online.....

Talk about irony....I've heard just as much sleep inducing, self-indulgent virtuoso wankerama from Metheney as I have from Kenny G.

I like some of Pat's stuff, in small doses....but to be honest, most of it is like Sominex with a beat.

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2005, 11:12 AM
This will give you a few more songs to check out:

http://www.myspace.com/thepietasters

Sounds a little like Frank Black (Teenager of the Year) meets ska with a little Van Morrison soul in there.

Hogan11
07-16-2005, 11:23 AM
Sounds a little like Frank Black (Teenager of the Year) meets ska with a little Van Morrison soul in there.

Interesting assessment.

They're not the best songs to have put out there IMO.....but you get the idea from them well enough. "Rachel" & "Malmo" are the most recent and most indicitive of the style they're moving into.

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2005, 12:02 PM
Interesting assessment.

They're not the best songs to have put out there IMO.....but you get the idea from them well enough. "Rachel" & "Malmo" are the most recent and most indicitive of the style they're moving into.

Decent stuff. Definately white boy soul (not a bad thing). I loves me some Van Morrison. Whoa-oh Do-mi-no!

Hogan11
07-16-2005, 12:09 PM
Decent stuff. Definately white boy soul (not a bad thing). I loves me some Van Morrison. Whoa-oh Do-mi-no!

If they ever come to your area, you wanna check them out live......they're amazing live and always a lot of fun.

Morrison is pretty cool stuff...I've got no problem with Van at all.

Nuggets4
07-16-2005, 12:45 PM
Talk about irony....I've heard just as much sleep inducing, self-indulgent virtuoso wankerama from Metheney as I have from Kenny G.

Blasphemy.

Hogan11
07-16-2005, 03:03 PM
Blasphemy.

Ha! Sorry Nug....was never big on Metheney....saw him once (which is fairly easy since he's from my general area) and he was alright...but I can get on easily without him after "It's For You" from Witchita Falls (I love that track)

Disco Man
07-16-2005, 03:26 PM
Rush-Signals
Donnas-Spend the Night
Barry White-All Time Hits
Kiss-Dynasty

Nuggets4
07-16-2005, 04:37 PM
Ha! Sorry Nug....was never big on Metheney....saw him once (which is fairly easy since he's from my general area) and he was alright...but I can get on easily without him after "It's For You" from Witchita Falls (I love that track)

The Metheney group stuff is ok, but I prefer his straight up jazz. He is, by far, my favorite soloist out there. Melodic, incredible chops. He does tend to overplay sometimes, but when you have chops like that, it's hard not to.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-16-2005, 05:01 PM
The Metheney group stuff is ok, but I prefer his straight up jazz. He is, by far, my favorite soloist out there. Melodic, incredible chops. He does tend to overplay sometimes, but when you have chops like that, it's hard not to.

Speaking of chops, Metheney, when evaluating his own technical abilities a while ago, said that maybe he needed to take lessons from Frank Gambale.

http://www.frankgambale.com/pages/home.html

Bronx33
07-17-2005, 08:36 PM
Eric claptons (crossroads) 4 disk collection....if you dont have this, get it.

Pat Bowlen
07-20-2005, 01:59 AM
Ween - White Pepper.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/wellnesscenter/bananas.jpg + http://dancesafe.org/images/cocaine.gif

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-22-2005, 10:02 PM
Luuuuuuuuke!

http://www.stevelukather.net/images/pictures/lev15.jpg
http://www.stevelukather.net/images/pictures/lev14.jpg
http://www.stevelukather.net/images/pictures/lev13.jpg

Nuggets4
07-24-2005, 09:23 AM
N.E.R.D. - Fly or Die
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg200/g233/g23394dz5c6.jpg

N.E.R.D. - In Search Of....
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf100/f152/f152121ded3.jpg

The Neptunes - The Neptunes Present Clones
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg100/g148/g14813cjij9.jpg

The Who - Who's Next
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre100/e143/e14377msg7m.jpg

The Band - The Band
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre200/e253/e25373o0u40.jpg

Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd200/d271/d2718207mj0.jpg

John Legend - Get Lifted
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg400/g488/g48820a1lsg.jpg

Common - Be
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg700/g796/g79624xt49y.jpg

Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg700/g709/g70989bif16.jpg

Jeff Buckley - Grace
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf700/f750/f75072t5l5k.jpg

FADERPROOF
07-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Still listening to Mudvayne's new CD, "Lost and Found."

Also...

Rascal Flatts - feels like today
Toby Keith - Honkeytonk University
Brad Paisley - mud on the tires
Kenny Chesney - when the sun goes down

So, aside from Mudvayne, I've just been listening to country music.

Hogan11
07-29-2005, 06:11 PM
http://www.gethip.com/content/covers/GH-1127.jpg

Can't get the disc out of the player......it's been on my playlist for months and gets better with each listen.

FADERPROOF
07-29-2005, 06:35 PM
Seether - Karma in effect
The Killers - Hot Fuss

those 2 also make it in my CD player.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2005, 05:17 AM
http://cover6.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverArt/video/Large/5407365.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2005, 05:27 AM
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/g/i/p/778640.jpg

Nuggets4
07-30-2005, 10:53 AM
http://cover6.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverArt/video/Large/5407365.jpg

I picked that DVD up at Borders for $7 a month ago. Great stuff.

Hogan11
08-01-2005, 09:10 PM
Time to play Didja know?

???

Didja know they want $55.00 to see Bo Diddley when he comes around my area next month?? Yikes!

Now I really like Bo and he's a legend and all of that...BUT 55 smacks? I didn't pay that for Dick Dale & Link Wray combined.

Raider Bill
08-01-2005, 09:51 PM
Lately, I've been listening to a bunch of old Bon Scott AC/DC..clasic stuff.

Raider Bill
08-01-2005, 09:53 PM
Ween - White Pepper.




Those guys are from around here, you hear a lot of local references in their stuff. "Pork Roll Egg and Cheese" for example. I've looked, you cannot get pork roll anywhere else but here!

Raider Bill
08-01-2005, 09:59 PM
Velvet Revolver was the first CD that I have purchased in years, and it still left me underwhelmed. I havent liked much of anything since Soundgarden or Alice in Chans!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-02-2005, 09:47 PM
I picked that DVD up at Borders for $7 a month ago. Great stuff.

Yep - it kills, alright. :)

http://www.carlverheyen.com/CVB_RumorFrontSmall3.gif

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-02-2005, 09:49 PM
http://www.carlverheyen.com/Music/slangjustice.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-02-2005, 09:51 PM
http://www.carlverheyen.com/Music/atlasoverload.jpg

Northman
08-04-2005, 01:34 PM
Obituary- Frozen in Time
Project Pitchfork- Kaskade
Mortician- Re-animated Dead Flesh
Darkane- Layer of Lies
Mors Principum Est- Unborn
Nevermore- This Godless Endeavor
Arch Enemy- Doomsday Machine

DB-Freak
08-05-2005, 11:15 PM
Opeth-Damnation

The damn CD is just excellent. Never heard a band like them.

MajikMan7
08-06-2005, 01:10 AM
Project 86- Songs To Burn Your Bridges By

Northman
08-13-2005, 08:34 AM
Naglfar- Pariah
Warmen- Unknown Soldier

Northman
08-20-2005, 12:07 PM
OMG, you assclowns allowed this to fall to the 2nd page? for God's sake! do i have to do everything for you guys! come on! get it together! lol


311- Dont Tread on Me

Hogan11
08-20-2005, 12:36 PM
2nd page? You must have your duration setting set low....

anyways, I started the day off right with The Stooges Funhouse.....quite possibly the most artless record ever made and a major mood setter.....it tends to piss off the neighbors as well for some reason...what more could one want? Ha!

OrangeShadow
08-20-2005, 03:18 PM
Boynz in da hoods new cd,didnt last long in my cd player though wasnt that good so its

the roots-tipping point

Northman
08-20-2005, 06:07 PM
Velvet Cacoon- Genevieve
Leave's Eye's- Vinland Saga

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-22-2005, 11:59 PM
http://cdbaby.com/covers/w/a/wackerman3.jpg

mattleecrew
08-25-2005, 03:12 PM
Oceansize - Everyone into Position
Four Tet - Everything Ecstatic

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-25-2005, 09:43 PM
Michael Thompson - World According to M.T.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000E0RB.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Clips:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000E0RB/qid=1125027677/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-9923129-0719366?v=glance&s=music

Kid A
08-26-2005, 12:28 PM
Beck- Sea Change

Ben Folds Five- WHatever and Ever amen

Cake- Fashion Nugget

Breck Bronc
08-27-2005, 03:10 PM
311- Don't Tread on Me
Black Uhuru - What is Life
Beck - Guero
Audioslave - Out of Exile
Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth

kent156
08-27-2005, 03:33 PM
george strait "strait out the box"

linda ronstadt "the very best of linda ronstadt"

Nuggets4
08-27-2005, 04:09 PM
Kanye West - The College Dropout

Really looking forward to his new album next Tuesday.

Hogan11
08-27-2005, 10:32 PM
Outside of The Priests & The Pietasters (primer for Labor Day weekend shows I'm attending) I've been in classic rock mode with some of my all time faves:

AC/DC - If You Want Blood...You've Got It!
Black Sabbath Volume 4
Grand Funk Railroad - Grand Funk (The Red Album)
The Doors Live In Detroit (LIve In Philly is coming out in October on Bright Midnight!!)
The Who Live At The Isle Of Wight 1970

Bronx33
08-30-2005, 12:09 PM
Ray Charles: anthology......i picked this up the other day and it kicks arse!

Lynch
08-30-2005, 02:02 PM
Bronx: Yep, great stuff on there.



Currently playing : George Lynch - Furious George.
Just picked this up the other day after having
little to no luck searching for it for a while.

Kid A
08-30-2005, 04:02 PM
The Appleseed Cast- Low Level Owl 1
DJ Shadow- Entroducing
Explosions in the Sky- The Earth is not a Cold Dead Place

Mogulseeker
08-30-2005, 07:01 PM
Nine Inch Nails - White Teeth
Blindside - The Great Depression

Breck Bronc
08-30-2005, 08:16 PM
Nine Inch Nails - White TeethIs that a NIN remix album performed by dentists?

Mogulseeker
09-04-2005, 01:23 PM
Is that a NIN remix album performed by dentists?

My bad... With Teeth. Never really payed attenton to the name.

Come on man, you know I never think before I post.

That said, I'm convinced that Blindside is the greatest band around right now.

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Hogan11
09-07-2005, 06:36 AM
Been playing a bunch of R.L. Burnside since he passed away a few days ago....I especially like his collaboration with The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion An Ass Pocket Of Whiskey the blues of the delta filtered thru the wildness of the Explosion makes for some very exciting noise.

Hanging with The Pietasters last weekend I brought up R.L. They were bumming about his death pretty bad. They told me this story of how when they toured with him in 1998 (A very strange bill BTW...it led off with R.L. Burnside, followed by The Pietasters and then headlined by Joe Strummer...it was captured by HBO for their Reverb show of the time) they gave him a bottle of Jack Daniels for his 75th Birthday.....he cancelled his opening spot for the rest of the tour the next day after he damn near drank the entire thing. Strummer blamed The Pietasters and never forgave them for it.

Nuggets4
09-07-2005, 07:46 AM
OK, everyone needs to post something in this thread now. That video Smurf posted damn near gave me a heart attack a few seconds ago.

Kanye West - Late Registration
They Might Be Giants - A Users Guide To They Might Be Giants

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2005, 04:15 AM
This disc is slammin!'

Can't stop listening to it.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4742/mt14lv.jpg

Nuggets4
09-11-2005, 08:21 PM
All right people I respect, need some opinions.

Always been a fan of Frank Zappa, but never gotten anything of his (sadly, I feel more guilty about this than a lot of other things in my life). Recommendations? I'm thinking I'll probably get "Strictly Commercial" because it has a lot of great songs on it (specifically "Peaches en Regalia" -- personal favorite of mine because we did an arrangement of it in a percussion ensemble at UNC) and covers a lot of ground. Big problem with that one is that it doesn't have "The Black Page" on it. So I guess I'll just have to get more than one CD. :D

So, I need recommendations for good studio and good live albums (because his bands are AWESOME live). I thank you in advance.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-11-2005, 09:53 PM
All right people I respect, need some opinions.

Always been a fan of Frank Zappa, but never gotten anything of his (sadly, I feel more guilty about this than a lot of other things in my life). Recommendations? I'm thinking I'll probably get "Strictly Commercial" because it has a lot of great songs on it (specifically "Peaches en Regalia" -- personal favorite of mine because we did an arrangement of it in a percussion ensemble at UNC) and covers a lot of ground. Big problem with that one is that it doesn't have "The Black Page" on it. So I guess I'll just have to get more than one CD. :D

So, I need recommendations for good studio and good live albums (because his bands are AWESOME live). I thank you in advance.

"Baby Snakes" (the DVD) is my favorite live Zappa recording - it's just over the top!

I'm also a "200 Motels" fan.

I still like the early Mothers of Invention records like "Apostrophe" and "Overnight Sensation." I used the guy who played drums on those two records (Ralph Humphrey) on my last CD. Guy's a monster!

I listen to the commercial hits-oriented package "Have I Offended Someone?" in the car a lot. It's fun to see some of the looks on people's faces when you roll up to an intersection with the windows rolled down and "T*tties and Beer" or "Bobby Brown" blasting. :D

At any rate, I don't consider myself a Zappa historian by any stretch, so Hogan, et al, might have some recommendations I missed. :)

Trouble
09-12-2005, 11:25 AM
Lincoln Park-Meteoria

Hogan11
09-12-2005, 02:03 PM
All right people I respect, need some opinions.

Always been a fan of Frank Zappa, but never gotten anything of his (sadly, I feel more guilty about this than a lot of other things in my life). Recommendations? I'm thinking I'll probably get "Strictly Commercial" because it has a lot of great songs on it (specifically "Peaches en Regalia" -- personal favorite of mine because we did an arrangement of it in a percussion ensemble at UNC) and covers a lot of ground. Big problem with that one is that it doesn't have "The Black Page" on it. So I guess I'll just have to get more than one CD. :D

So, I need recommendations for good studio and good live albums (because his bands are AWESOME live). I thank you in advance.

I'm actually not that big of a Zappa fan....he just either got wayyy too goofy or wayyy to complex for my tastes, so for me, a little of FZ goes a very long way.

That's not to say I don't own any.....here's what I have in the way of Zappa:

FREAK OUT - the first installment. It actually has some pretty nice sounding stuff on it musically without going over the top. That's a minor miracle given Zappa's oft repeated mantra "The modern day composer refuses to die"...spelling it out from the very beginning the kind of musical snobbery that says this will never condescend to being 4/4 stuff. Of course the humor is there from the get go as well. I like it because it has some pop elements on it to be honest with you...songs like "You Didn't Try To Call Me" & "Any Way The Wind Blows" balance out the indulgent 12 minute "epics" quite effectively IMO. ABSOLUTELY FREE has a couple of interesting songs on it that makes me keep it in my collection, but besides LUMPY GRAVY (a disc of atmospheric tones) it's the weakest FZ CD I have IMO.

WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY - Is a vicious attack on the peace & love crowd....from the cover on down. As Zappa's answer to SGT. PEPPER, who knew Frank hated hippies so much? "Who Needs The Peace Corps?" is indicitive of the set....It's basically a collage of sounds and some songs and , for some reason, years later reminds me of something not so dissimilar to a Negativland CD.

YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - Another vicious CD, but this one probably has the musical aptitude you're looking for as well on it. I consider it his best work and a lot of it still holds up in terms or music and content...if I had to recommend one to anyone, hands down this one would be it....it's very solid.

A SHIP ARRIVING TOO LATE TO SAVE A DROWNING WITCH - Yeah, the Valley Girl one...it's a skimpy release but what's on it is pretty good stuff...if you liked the single, you'll like the album.

There, I kept it as short as I could...hope the rambling helps...BTW I've never heard any of the SHUT UP AND PLAY YOUR GUITAR or the YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE series but by the descriptions I've been given of them, they might be what you're looking for as well. I'd also check out the AMG site for this which has some very accurate write ups on anyone in music...that could help you out also.

Nuggets4
09-12-2005, 08:01 PM
Oh, I read the AMG site. That's damn near my homepage. I just wanted the personal touch from you and LABF.

I'll probably pick up a few this week sometime.

Hogan11
09-14-2005, 02:42 PM
Oh, I read the AMG site. That's damn near my homepage. I just wanted the personal touch from you and LABF.

I'll probably pick up a few this week sometime.

I thought you probably knew about it , but just in case you didn't...

Speaking of LABF (because I know he's a Tubes fan) Has anyone heard that new live Wild In London? If you have, whatcha think of it??

MajikMan7
09-14-2005, 05:41 PM
I've been listening to the album, Bat Country by Avenged Sevenfold. It's awesome.

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2005, 06:20 PM
I'm actually not that big of a Zappa fan....he just either got wayyy too goofy or wayyy to complex for my tastes, so for me, a little of FZ goes a very long way.

That's not to say I don't own any.....here's what I have in the way of Zappa:

FREAK OUT - the first installment. It actually has some pretty nice sounding stuff on it musically without going over the top. That's a minor miracle given Zappa's oft repeated mantra "The modern day composer refuses to die"...spelling it out from the very beginning the kind of musical snobbery that says this will never condescend to being 4/4 stuff. Of course the humor is there from the get go as well. I like it because it has some pop elements on it to be honest with you...songs like "You Didn't Try To Call Me" & "Any Way The Wind Blows" balance out the indulgent 12 minute "epics" quite effectively IMO. ABSOLUTELY FREE has a couple of interesting songs on it that makes me keep it in my collection, but besides LUMPY GRAVY (a disc of atmospheric tones) it's the weakest FZ CD I have IMO.

WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY - Is a vicious attack on the peace & love crowd....from the cover on down. As Zappa's answer to SGT. PEPPER, who knew Frank hated hippies so much? "Who Needs The Peace Corps?" is indicitive of the set....It's basically a collage of sounds and some songs and , for some reason, years later reminds me of something not so dissimilar to a Negativland CD.

YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - Another vicious CD, but this one probably has the musical aptitude you're looking for as well on it. I consider it his best work and a lot of it still holds up in terms or music and content...if I had to recommend one to anyone, hands down this one would be it....it's very solid.

A SHIP ARRIVING TOO LATE TO SAVE A DROWNING WITCH - Yeah, the Valley Girl one...it's a skimpy release but what's on it is pretty good stuff...if you liked the single, you'll like the album.

There, I kept it as short as I could...hope the rambling helps...BTW I've never heard any of the SHUT UP AND PLAY YOUR GUITAR or the YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON STAGE ANYMORE series but by the descriptions I've been given of them, they might be what you're looking for as well. I'd also check out the AMG site for this which has some very accurate write ups on anyone in music...that could help you out also.


For you Zappa fans...check out Mike Kenneally. You all are probably familiar with Mr. Bungle already, but their another modern take on Zappaism.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-15-2005, 04:00 AM
I thought you probably knew about it , but just in case you didn't...

Speaking of LABF (because I know he's a Tubes fan) Has anyone heard that new live Wild In London? If you have, whatcha think of it??

I was a Tubes fan back in the day, but about the only thing I listen to for pleasure nowadays is jazz/fusion stuff.

Nuggets4
09-15-2005, 04:25 PM
Alicia Keys Unplugged -- http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/index.jhtml

I love Alicia. Even better with a real band instead of the crap programmed stuff on the album. R&B DEMANDS a drummer and bass player dammit.

Plus, there's nothing sexier than a beautiful woman who's a great musician.

MajikMan7
09-15-2005, 04:36 PM
Alicia Keys Unplugged -- http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/index.jhtml

I love Alicia. Even better with a real band instead of the crap programmed stuff on the album. R&B DEMANDS a drummer and bass player dammit.

Plus, there's nothing sexier than a beautiful woman who's a great musician.


Please tell me you are kidding.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 07:19 PM
Plus, there's nothing sexier than a beautiful woman who's a great musician.

This is why I love Michelle Branch so much, believe it or not.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 07:20 PM
I was a Tubes fan back in the day, but about the only thing I listen to for pleasure nowadays is jazz/fusion stuff.

Too bad...not too many Tubes fans pre-Completion Backwards around.

MajikMan7
09-15-2005, 07:21 PM
Today I've been listening to Avenged Sevenfold and The Offspring

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 07:23 PM
Alicia Keys Unplugged -- http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/index.jhtml

I love Alicia. Even better with a real band instead of the crap programmed stuff on the album. R&B DEMANDS a drummer and bass player dammit.

Plus, there's nothing sexier than a beautiful woman who's a great musician.

I agree to an extent, but they have to do music that doesn't suck, which eliminates Alicia Keys(and Michelle Branch for Hogan.)

Nothing better than chicks in rock bands that play bass, or any instrament but it seems as the bass guitar is the choice instrament.

MajikMan7
09-15-2005, 07:24 PM
but it seems as the bass guitar is the choice instrament.

Yeah, cuz any fool could play it.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 07:26 PM
Yeah, cuz any fool could play it.

If I wasn't boycotting the rep thing, you'd get neg rep for that one...

MajikMan7
09-15-2005, 07:28 PM
If I wasn't boycotting the rep thing, you'd get neg rep for that one...

But it's so true. Sorry ladies....

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 07:28 PM
Yeah, cuz any fool could play it.

That's about the dumbest thing ever.

Any fool could play any instrament, but you have to be a bit better than that to actually be in a band.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 07:29 PM
I agree to an extent, but they have to do music that doesn't suck, which eliminates Alicia Keys(and Michelle Branch for Hogan.)

Nothing better than chicks in rock bands that play bass, or any instrament but it seems as the bass guitar is the choice instrament.

I'm unafraid to admit my guilty pleasures DenFan...she's one of mine.

Speaking of chick bass players...The Ponys have been around my area quite a bit since last November....seems Buffalo is a frequent stop....I may have to check them out again some day.

Of course...I have to mention The Donnas for the Disco Man WWWWwwwwwwwooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha!

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 07:29 PM
But it's so true. Sorry ladies....

Ever heard of Coal Chamber?

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 07:30 PM
I'm unafraid to admit my guilty pleasures DenFan...she's one of mine.

Speaking of chick bass players...The Ponys have been around my area quite a bit since last November....seems Buffalo is a frequent stop....I may have to check them out again some day.

Of course...I have to mention The Donnas for the Disco Man WWWWwwwwwwwooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha!

any potential future trips to Cleveland?

I'm going to see system of a down on September 26th, and after paying 105 dollars for 2 tickets I'm about sick and tired of this big band big venue crap, time to hit the grog shop or beachland up again for a good time.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 07:31 PM
But it's so true. Sorry ladies....

Spoken like a true non-musician

MajikMan7
09-15-2005, 07:31 PM
That's about the dumbest thing ever.

Any fool could play any instrament, but you have to be a bit better than that to actually be in a band.

bass....is the easiest instrament to play.Thats all I was trying to say.

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 07:33 PM
bass....is the easiest instrament to play.Thats all I was trying to say.

It may be the easiest to pick up and play, but it takes a lot more than picking it up to be able to play in a band.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 07:33 PM
any potential future trips to Cleveland?

I'm going to see system of a down on September 26th, and after paying 105 dollars for 2 tickets I'm about sick and tired of this big band big venue crap, time to hit the grog shop or beachland up again for a good time.

I wish....I had The Pietasters ask me repeatedly if I was heading to Cleveland for their show next month @ the Grog Shop...but I don't think I can swing that (wish I could)....other than that, I've seen nothing.

I'll keep checking though and let you know if and when I'll be coming out.....much better selection of bands coming in there than in my area.

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 07:36 PM
I wish....I had The Pietasters ask me repeatedly if I was heading to Cleveland for their show next month @ the Grog Shop...but I don't think I can swing that (wish I could)....other than that, I've seen nothing.

I'll keep checking though and let you know if and when I'll be coming out.....much better selection of bands coming in there than in my area.

I'm sure those trips to Bronco games are hurting the concert scene for you, but I'll keep an eye out for anything still.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 07:41 PM
I'm sure those trips to Bronco games are hurting the concert scene for you, but I'll keep an eye out for anything still.

The fuel costs kill the long concert trips more than anything else.....road trips are just not all that possible with 3 smack gas.

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 07:47 PM
The fuel costs kill the long concert trips more than anything else.....road trips are just not all that possible with 3 smack gas.

That's true, the guys that went down to Columbus for the OSU-Texas game on Saturday spent between 40-60 dollars just on gas...and thats just a 4 hour round trip.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 07:58 PM
That's true, the guys that went down to Columbus for the OSU-Texas game on Saturday spent between 40-60 dollars just on gas...and thats just a 4 hour round trip.

That's what I mean....that cuts heavily into the bar money, something that's damn near essential for club/bar shows. That 40 to 60 smack cost is about what I'd be looking at since I'm about 4 hours away from Cleveland as it is.

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 08:00 PM
That's what I mean....that cuts heavily into the bar money, something that's damn near essential for club/bar shows. That 40 to 60 smack cost is about what I'd be looking at since I'm about 4 hours away from Cleveland as it is.

It takes 4 hours to get to Cleveland from your place?

Ouch, it takes 2 hours to get to Columbus from here, costed 40 dollars to get down there and back on the 4 hour round trip, you'd probably be looking more around the 70-90 dollar range just for gas to drive down and back.

Hogan11
09-15-2005, 08:06 PM
It takes 4 hours to get to Cleveland from your place?

Ouch, it takes 2 hours to get to Columbus from here, costed 40 dollars to get down there and back on the 4 hour round trip, you'd probably be looking more around the 70-90 dollar range just for gas to drive down and back.

Yeah...about 3 1/2 to 4 hrs away....that's no big deal, just an overnight is all.
Very easy for shows/games...no big thing when I'm not getting raped at the pumps...

Northman
09-15-2005, 08:08 PM
Been listening to a mix of Esqarial and a song from Warmen and Meads of Asphodel. if anyone likes great guitar playing in the vein of Satch and Vai only mixed with Death vocals and riffs then check out Esqarial. awesome band man, guaranteed to impress even non metal fans. songs to look for if you are a downloader.

A Pure Formality
Inheritance
Guitar Explosion
Atlantis
Sacred War

http://www.esqarial.com/index_inh_en.php


just a few to wet your appetites.

MajikMan7
09-15-2005, 08:14 PM
Been listening to a mix of Esqarial and a song from Warmen and Meads of Asphodel. if anyone likes great guitar playing in the vein of Satch and Vai only mixed with Death vocals and riffs then check out Esqarial. awesome band man, guaranteed to impress even non metal fans. songs to look for if you are a downloader.

A Pure Formality
Inheritance
Guitar Explosion
Atlantis
Sacred War

http://www.esqarial.com/index_inh_en.php


just a few to wet your appetites.

awesome........

Nuggets4
09-15-2005, 08:41 PM
Wow Majik. When I think you can't get any dumber, you go and just prove me wrong.

Congratulations.

FADERPROOF
09-15-2005, 08:45 PM
Been listening to a mix of Esqarial and a song from Warmen and Meads of Asphodel. if anyone likes great guitar playing in the vein of Satch and Vai only mixed with Death vocals and riffs then check out Esqarial. awesome band man, guaranteed to impress even non metal fans. songs to look for if you are a downloader.

A Pure Formality
Inheritance
Guitar Explosion
Atlantis
Sacred War

http://www.esqarial.com/index_inh_en.php


just a few to wet your appetites.

speaking of metal, I got a nice mix CD which consists of:

Hatebreed
Killswitch Engage
Cradle of Filth
Wednesday 13
Coal Chamber
Slipknot
36 crazyfists
In Flames
Mastodon
Ill Nino
The Agony Scene
As I lay dying

Northman
09-20-2005, 02:52 PM
Opeth- Orchid
Burn the Priest- S/T ( previous name for band Lamb of God )
Dark Tranquillity- The Mind's I
Fear Factory- Transgression
Louder than the Dragon- Compilation feat. Rhapsody and other power metal.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-22-2005, 11:17 PM
A little follow-up on something a few of us were discussing earlier...

Pat Metheney puts the WWF smackdown on Kenny G!

Pat Metheny on Kenny G:

Question:

Pat, could you tell us your opinion about Kenny G - it appears you were quoted as being less than enthusiastic about him and his music. I would say that most of the serious music listeners in the world would not find your opinion surprising or unlikely - but you were vocal about it for the first time. You are generally supportive of other musicians it seems.

Pat's Answer:

Kenny G is not a musician I really had much of an opinion about at all until recently. There was not much about the way he played that interested me one way or the other either live or on records.

I first heard him a number of years ago playing as a sideman with Jeff Lorber when they opened a concert for my band. My impression was that he was someone who had spent a fair amount of time listening to the more pop oriented sax players of that time, like Grover Washington or David Sanborn, but was not really an advanced player, even in that style. He had major rhythmic problems and his harmonic and melodic vocabulary was extremely limited, mostly to pentatonic based and blues-lick derived patterns, and he basically exhibited only a rudimentary understanding of how to function as a professional soloist in an ensemble - Lorber was basically playing him off the bandstand in terms of actual music.

But he did show a knack for connecting to the basest impulses of the large crowd by deploying his two or three most effective licks (holding long notes and playing fast runs - never mind that there were lots of harmonic clams in them) at the key moments to elicit a powerful crowd reaction (over and over again). The other main thing I noticed was that he also, as he does to this day, played horribly out of tune - consistently sharp.

Of course, I am aware of what he has played since, the success it has had, and the controversy that has surrounded him among musicians and serious listeners. This controversy seems to be largely fueled by the fact that he sells an enormous amount of records while not being anywhere near a really great player in relation to the standards that have been set on his instrument over the past sixty or seventy years. And honestly, there is no small amount of envy involved from musicians who see one of their fellow players doing so well financially, especially when so many of them who are far superior as improvisors and musicians in general have trouble just making a living. There must be hundreds, if not thousands of sax players around the world who are simply better improvising musicians than Kenny G on his chosen instruments. It would really surprise me if even he disagreed with that statement.

Having said that, it has gotten me to thinking lately why so many jazz musicians (myself included, given the right "bait" of a question, as I will explain later) and audiences have gone so far as to say that what he is playing is not even jazz at all. Stepping back for a minute, if we examine the way he plays, especially if one can remove the actual improvising from the often mundane background environment that it is delivered in, we see that his saxophone style is in fact clearly in the tradition of the kind of playing that most reasonably objective listeners WOULD normally quantify as being jazz. It's just that as jazz or even as music in a general sense, with these standards in mind, it is simply not up to the level of playing that we historically associate with professional improvising musicians. So, lately I have been advocating that we go ahead and just include it under the word jazz - since pretty much of the rest of the world OUTSIDE of the jazz community does anyway - and let the chips fall where they may.

And after all, why he should be judged by any other standard, why he should be exempt from that that all other serious musicians on his instrument are judged by if they attempt to use their abilities in an improvisational context playing with a rhythm section as he does? He SHOULD be compared to John Coltrane or Wayne Shorter, for instance, on his abilities (or lack thereof) to play the soprano saxophone and his success (or lack thereof) at finding a way to deploy that instrument in an ensemble in order to accurately gauge his abilities and put them in the context of his instrument's legacy and potential.

As a composer of even eighth note based music, he SHOULD be compared to Herbie Hancock, Horace Silver or even Grover Washington. Suffice it to say, on all above counts, at this point in his development, he wouldn't fare well.

But, like I said at the top, this relatively benign view was all "until recently".

Not long ago, Kenny G put out a recording where he overdubbed himself on top of a 30+ year old Louis Armstrong record, the track "What a Wonderful World". With this single move, Kenny G became one of the few people on earth I can say that I really can't use at all - as a man, for his incredible arrogance to even consider such a thing, and as a musician, for presuming to share the stage with the single most important figure in our music.

This type of musical necrophilia - the technique of overdubbing on the preexisting tracks of already dead performers - was weird when Natalie Cole did it with her dad on "Unforgettable" a few years ago, but it was her dad. When Tony Bennett did it with Billie Holiday it was bizarre, but we are talking about two of the greatest singers of the 20th century who were on roughly the same level of artistic accomplishment. When Larry Coryell presumed to overdub himself on top of a Wes Montgomery track, I lost a lot of the respect that I ever had for him - and I have to seriously question the fact that I did have respect for someone who could turn out to have such unbelievably bad taste and be that disrespectful to one of my personal heroes.

But when Kenny G decided that it was appropriate for him to defile the music of the man who is probably the greatest jazz musician that has ever lived by spewing his lame-ass, jive, pseudo bluesy, out-of-tune, noodling, wimped out, ****ed up playing all over one of the great Louis's tracks (even one of his lesser ones), he did something that I would not have imagined possible. He, in one move, through his unbelievably pretentious and calloused musical decision to embark on this most cynical of musical paths, **** all over the graves of all the musicians past and present who have risked their lives by going out there on the road for years and years developing their own music inspired by the standards of grace that Louis Armstrong brought to every single note he played over an amazing lifetime as a musician. By disrespecting Louis, his legacy and by default, everyone who has ever tried to do something positive with improvised music and what it can be, Kenny G has created a new low point in modern culture - something that we all should be totally embarrassed about - and afraid of. We ignore this, "let it slide", at our own peril.

His callous disregard for the larger issues of what this crass gesture implies is exacerbated by the fact that the only reason he possibly have for doing something this inherently wrong (on both human and musical terms) was for the record sales and the money it would bring.

Since that record came out - in protest, as insignificant as it may be, I encourage everyone to boycott Kenny G recordings, concerts and anything he is associated with. If asked about Kenny G, I will diss him and his music with the same passion that is in evidence in this little essay.

Normally, I feel that musicians all have a hard enough time, regardless of their level, just trying to play good and don't really benefit from public criticism, particularly from their fellow players. but, this is different.

There ARE some things that are sacred - and amongst any musician that has ever attempted to address jazz at even the most basic of levels, Louis Armstrong and his music is hallowed ground. To ignore this trespass is to agree that NOTHING any musician has attempted to do with their life in music has any intrinsic value - and I refuse to do that. (I am also amazed that there HASN'T already been an outcry against this among music critics - where ARE they on this?????!?!?!?!, magazines, etc.). Everything I said here is exactly the same as what I would say to Gorelick if I ever saw him in person. and if I ever DO see him anywhere, at any function - he WILL get a piece of my mind and (maybe a guitar wrapped around his head.)

http://www.jazzoasis.com/methenyonkennyg.htm

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-22-2005, 11:32 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002AGM.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

DB-Freak
09-22-2005, 11:55 PM
Opeth- Orchid
Burn the Priest- S/T ( previous name for band Lamb of God )
Dark Tranquillity- The Mind's I
Fear Factory- Transgression
Louder than the Dragon- Compilation feat. Rhapsody and other power metal.

The singing style between Burn the priest is drastic from Lamb of God.

New lead singer or new style?

Nuggets4
09-23-2005, 08:47 AM
That Kenny G thing happened either my freshman or sophomore year of college at UNC. One of my buddies photocopied hundreds of copies of it and handed it out to everyone he could in the music school for a week.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-24-2005, 01:24 AM
That Kenny G thing happened either my freshman or sophomore year of college at UNC. One of my buddies photocopied hundreds of copies of it and handed it out to everyone he could in the music school for a week.

:laugh:

That's rich!

-Slap-
09-24-2005, 08:53 AM
A little follow-up on something a few of us were discussing earlier...

Pat Metheney puts the WWF smackdown on Kenny G!

Pat Metheny on Kenny G:

Question:

Pat, could you tell us your opinion about Kenny G - it appears you were quoted as being less than enthusiastic about him and his music. I would say that most of the serious music listeners in the world would not find your opinion surprising or unlikely - but you were vocal about it for the first time. You are generally supportive of other musicians it seems.

Pat's Answer:

Kenny G is not a musician I really had much of an opinion about at all until recently. There was not much about the way he played that interested me one way or the other either live or on records.

I first heard him a number of years ago playing as a sideman with Jeff Lorber when they opened a concert for my band. My impression was that he was someone who had spent a fair amount of time listening to the more pop oriented sax players of that time, like Grover Washington or David Sanborn, but was not really an advanced player, even in that style. He had major rhythmic problems and his harmonic and melodic vocabulary was extremely limited, mostly to pentatonic based and blues-lick derived patterns, and he basically exhibited only a rudimentary understanding of how to function as a professional soloist in an ensemble - Lorber was basically playing him off the bandstand in terms of actual music.

But he did show a knack for connecting to the basest impulses of the large crowd by deploying his two or three most effective licks (holding long notes and playing fast runs - never mind that there were lots of harmonic clams in them) at the key moments to elicit a powerful crowd reaction (over and over again). The other main thing I noticed was that he also, as he does to this day, played horribly out of tune - consistently sharp.

Of course, I am aware of what he has played since, the success it has had, and the controversy that has surrounded him among musicians and serious listeners. This controversy seems to be largely fueled by the fact that he sells an enormous amount of records while not being anywhere near a really great player in relation to the standards that have been set on his instrument over the past sixty or seventy years. And honestly, there is no small amount of envy involved from musicians who see one of their fellow players doing so well financially, especially when so many of them who are far superior as improvisors and musicians in general have trouble just making a living. There must be hundreds, if not thousands of sax players around the world who are simply better improvising musicians than Kenny G on his chosen instruments. It would really surprise me if even he disagreed with that statement.

Having said that, it has gotten me to thinking lately why so many jazz musicians (myself included, given the right "bait" of a question, as I will explain later) and audiences have gone so far as to say that what he is playing is not even jazz at all. Stepping back for a minute, if we examine the way he plays, especially if one can remove the actual improvising from the often mundane background environment that it is delivered in, we see that his saxophone style is in fact clearly in the tradition of the kind of playing that most reasonably objective listeners WOULD normally quantify as being jazz. It's just that as jazz or even as music in a general sense, with these standards in mind, it is simply not up to the level of playing that we historically associate with professional improvising musicians. So, lately I have been advocating that we go ahead and just include it under the word jazz - since pretty much of the rest of the world OUTSIDE of the jazz community does anyway - and let the chips fall where they may.

And after all, why he should be judged by any other standard, why he should be exempt from that that all other serious musicians on his instrument are judged by if they attempt to use their abilities in an improvisational context playing with a rhythm section as he does? He SHOULD be compared to John Coltrane or Wayne Shorter, for instance, on his abilities (or lack thereof) to play the soprano saxophone and his success (or lack thereof) at finding a way to deploy that instrument in an ensemble in order to accurately gauge his abilities and put them in the context of his instrument's legacy and potential.

As a composer of even eighth note based music, he SHOULD be compared to Herbie Hancork, Horace Silver or even Grover Washington. Suffice it to say, on all above counts, at this point in his development, he wouldn't fare well.

But, like I said at the top, this relatively benign view was all "until recently".

Not long ago, Kenny G put out a recording where he overdubbed himself on top of a 30+ year old Louis Armstrong record, the track "What a Wonderful World". With this single move, Kenny G became one of the few people on earth I can say that I really can't use at all - as a man, for his incredible arrogance to even consider such a thing, and as a musician, for presuming to share the stage with the single most important figure in our music.

This type of musical necrophilia - the technique of overdubbing on the preexisting tracks of already dead performers - was weird when Natalie Cole did it with her dad on "Unforgettable" a few years ago, but it was her dad. When Tony Bennett did it with Billie Holiday it was bizarre, but we are talking about two of the greatest singers of the 20th century who were on roughly the same level of artistic accomplishment. When Larry Coryell presumed to overdub himself on top of a Wes Montgomery track, I lost a lot of the respect that I ever had for him - and I have to seriously question the fact that I did have respect for someone who could turn out to have such unbelievably bad taste and be that disrespectful to one of my personal heroes.

But when Kenny G decided that it was appropriate for him to defile the music of the man who is probably the greatest jazz musician that has ever lived by spewing his lame-ass, jive, pseudo bluesy, out-of-tune, noodling, wimped out, ****ed up playing all over one of the great Louis's tracks (even one of his lesser ones), he did something that I would not have imagined possible. He, in one move, through his unbelievably pretentious and calloused musical decision to embark on this most cynical of musical paths, **** all over the graves of all the musicians past and present who have risked their lives by going out there on the road for years and years developing their own music inspired by the standards of grace that Louis Armstrong brought to every single note he played over an amazing lifetime as a musician. By disrespecting Louis, his legacy and by default, everyone who has ever tried to do something positive with improvised music and what it can be, Kenny G has created a new low point in modern culture - something that we all should be totally embarrassed about - and afraid of. We ignore this, "let it slide", at our own peril.

His callous disregard for the larger issues of what this crass gesture implies is exacerbated by the fact that the only reason he possibly have for doing something this inherently wrong (on both human and musical terms) was for the record sales and the money it would bring.

Since that record came out - in protest, as insignificant as it may be, I encourage everyone to boycott Kenny G recordings, concerts and anything he is associated with. If asked about Kenny G, I will diss him and his music with the same passion that is in evidence in this little essay.

Normally, I feel that musicians all have a hard enough time, regardless of their level, just trying to play good and don't really benefit from public criticism, particularly from their fellow players. but, this is different.

There ARE some things that are sacred - and amongst any musician that has ever attempted to address jazz at even the most basic of levels, Louis Armstrong and his music is hallowed ground. To ignore this trespass is to agree that NOTHING any musician has attempted to do with their life in music has any intrinsic value - and I refuse to do that. (I am also amazed that there HASN'T already been an outcry against this among music critics - where ARE they on this?????!?!?!?!, magazines, etc.). Everything I said here is exactly the same as what I would say to Gorelick if I ever saw him in person. and if I ever DO see him anywhere, at any function - he WILL get a piece of my mind and (maybe a guitar wrapped around his head.)

http://www.jazzoasis.com/methenyonkennyg.htm

Oh, man, was that a great article. I'm reminded of the musical desecrations performed on various blues standards by odious, fat, balding, white cretins like Bruce Willis and Jim Belushi.

Where to even begin with a douchebag like Belushi? First, his brother's bloated corpse was still warm when Jimbo slithered onto the cast of Saturday Night Live and into all the roles in which his brother would have been featured. "Look, its just like John would have done it, except not funny".

Oozing his way into that part of his brother's career was unseemly, but forgivable, I mean this fat bastard has to eat, right? Unfortunately, not having an original idea in his empty head, Jimbo decides to resurrect the Blues Brothers Band with Dan Ackroyd. Piss on Ackroyd for being a enabler, too. I know his movie career isn't what it used to be, but give me a break. The original Blues Brothers concept with John Belushi was sent up purely for laughs and it was effective in that regard. This was sickening.

Much to my horror, John's no talent sibling decided to take the ball and run with it. He now occasionally headlines(!) at the House of Blues in Chicago, fronting bands full of real musicians, who dwarf him in talent, but don't have idiotic shows like According To Jim to narcotize the masses.

I think that is my biggest complaint. The incredibly disgusting reserviors of ego it requires to take the stage as the front man and focus of attention, when you're by far the least talented person on stage. Amazing and deplorable.

Bruce Willis' forays into the blues are only marginally less offensive, probably because he has an actual movie caeer to fall back upon. This gives him no pass whatsoever and it gladdens my heart to know some fuzzy cheeked punk like Ashton Kutcher is giving Demi the high hard one in Brucie's old bed.

Apparently the thrill of performing overwhelms all sense of propriety and good taste. Robert Klein has been mining the neurotic Jew from New York comedy vein for about three decades. This has brought him a fair degree of success, especially considering his act is far from original in content or execution.

One of Klein's funniest bits would be when he would whip out a harmonica and start bleating out a repetitive rhythm, while keeping time with his foot. He would stomp in time to the music in exaggerated fashion for about a half a minute. Just when the audience would start to wonder what he's doing, he would start singing, "I can't stop my leg! I can't stop my leg!"

Truly a hilarious bit and the crowd ate it up every time. It had the feel of a tribute to the art form, much like the Original Jake and Elwood Blues of John Belushi and pre-sellout Dan Ackroyd. Unfortunately it got good to him.

A good 15-20 years after I first saw Klein do that bit, I happened to turn on HBO, (or Showtime), and saw Robert Klein on stage. So, I decide to catch a few minutes, maybe see him do his old "I can't stop my leg" routine. Well, he did the routine alright. Except this time, he didn't just whip a harmonica out of his pocket. Instead, the stage opened up and a ten piece band and three beautiful backup singers appeared onstage. All of them black, (hey, gotta be authentic, right?), all of them far more talented musically than the preening knucklehead who assembled them for this project. Klein proceeds to run through a 15 minute set and completely lose my respect in the process. I used to laugh at that routine, now I would like to slap that harmonica out of his hand and some sense into his arrogant head.

Pricks like Willis, Klein and even a sleazy dead-brother-career-stealing dickload like Jim Belushi enjoyed commercial success before their grotesque forays into an art form they clearly do not appreciate. I would like to strap these a-holes down and make them listen to seminal recordings from John Lee Hooker, Son House, Muddy Waters and a thousand unknown blues men until they understand what they're doing is disgusting and deplorable. Money and vanity are poor excuses.

RhymesayersDU
09-24-2005, 04:31 PM
Wow, haven't been around this topic in a while... In my player now:

Boyz N Da Hood - Self Titled
Mack 10 - Hustla's Handbook
Warren G - In The Mid-Nite Hour
DJ Kay Slay Presents: Papoose & Memphis Bleek: Do Or Die Mix Tape
Three 6 Mafia - The Most Known Unknowns
Tony Yayo - Thoughts Of A Predicate Felon

JPEZ
09-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Toby Keith :Broncos: !Booya!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-24-2005, 06:09 PM
I think that is my biggest complaint. The incredibly disgusting reserviors of ego it requires to take the stage as the front man and focus of attention, when you're by far the least talented person on stage. Amazing and deplorable.


That's today's popular music biz in a nutshell, unfortunately.

Nuggets4
09-24-2005, 06:34 PM
The worst part is that usually the worse the front man, the better the backing band too. Gotta sit through some crap front men to see great musicians.

Northman
09-24-2005, 09:11 PM
The singing style between Burn the priest is drastic from Lamb of God.

New lead singer or new style?


new style, they did have one different member in the band but the singer was the same.

FADERPROOF
09-25-2005, 10:38 AM
The worst part is that usually the worse the front man, the better the backing band too. Gotta sit through some crap front men to see great musicians.

That's why bands that I'm into must have a good frontman in order for me to really get into it.

Even the real hard metal that I'll listen to has to have more substance from the lead singer other than screaming at the top of his lungs with words that you cannot even make out.

Hogan11
09-28-2005, 10:26 PM
Oh, man, was that a great article. I'm reminded of the musical desecrations performed on various blues standards by odious, fat, balding, white cretins like Bruce Willis and Jim Belushi.

Where to even begin with a douchebag like Belushi? First, his brother's bloated corpse was still warm when Jimbo slithered onto the cast of Saturday Night Live and into all the roles in which his brother would have been featured. "Look, its just like John would have done it, except not funny".

Oozing his way into that part of his brother's career was unseemly, but forgivable, I mean this fat bastard has to eat, right? Unfortunately, not having an original idea in his empty head, Jimbo decides to resurrect the Blues Brothers Band with Dan Ackroyd. Piss on Ackroyd for being a enabler, too. I know his movie career isn't what it used to be, but give me a break. The original Blues Brothers concept with John Belushi was sent up purely for laughs and it was effective in that regard. This was sickening.

Much to my horror, John's no talent sibling decided to take the ball and run with it. He now occasionally headlines(!) at the House of Blues in Chicago, fronting bands full of real musicians, who dwarf him in talent, but don't have idiotic shows like According To Jim to narcotize the masses.

I think that is my biggest complaint. The incredibly disgusting reserviors of ego it requires to take the stage as the front man and focus of attention, when you're by far the least talented person on stage. Amazing and deplorable.

Bruce Willis' forays into the blues are only marginally less offensive, probably because he has an actual movie caeer to fall back upon. This gives him no pass whatsoever and it gladdens my heart to know some fuzzy cheeked punk like Ashton Kutcher is giving Demi the high hard one in Brucie's old bed.

Apparently the thrill of performing overwhelms all sense of propriety and good taste. Robert Klein has been mining the neurotic Jew from New York comedy vein for about three decades. This has brought him a fair degree of success, especially considering his act is far from original in content or execution.

One of Klein's funniest bits would be when he would whip out a harmonica and start bleating out a repetitive rhythm, while keeping time with his foot. He would stomp in time to the music in exaggerated fashion for about a half a minute. Just when the audience would start to wonder what he's doing, he would start singing, "I can't stop my leg! I can't stop my leg!"

Truly a hilarious bit and the crowd ate it up every time. It had the feel of a tribute to the art form, much like the Original Jake and Elwood Blues of John Belushi and pre-sellout Dan Ackroyd. Unfortunately it got good to him.

A good 15-20 years after I first saw Klein do that bit, I happened to turn on HBO, (or Showtime), and saw Robert Klein on stage. So, I decide to catch a few minutes, maybe see him do his old "I can't stop my leg" routine. Well, he did the routine alright. Except this time, he didn't just whip a harmonica out of his pocket. Instead, the stage opened up and a ten piece band and three beautiful backup singers appeared onstage. All of them black, (hey, gotta be authentic, right?), all of them far more talented musically than the preening knucklehead who assembled them for this project. Klein proceeds to run through a 15 minute set and completely lose my respect in the process. I used to laugh at that routine, now I would like to slap that harmonica out of his hand and some sense into his arrogant head.

Pricks like Willis, Klein and even a sleazy dead-brother-career-stealing dickload like Jim Belushi enjoyed commercial success before their grotesque forays into an art form they clearly do not appreciate. I would like to strap these a-holes down and make them listen to seminal recordings from John Lee Hooker, Son House, Muddy Waters and a thousand unknown blues men until they understand what they're doing is disgusting and deplorable. Money and vanity are poor excuses.

Slap nails it.

I was never a Blues Bros. fan when it came to the music (I did like the first movie however). The renditions of classic soul and blues songs left much to be desired and the longer the bit went on (for three agonizing albums I think) the more it seemed to be a big ripoff of the music rather than a tribute to it.

I won't even waste time weighing in on the 2000 movie.

Nuggets4
09-29-2005, 08:03 AM
I won't even waste time weighing in on the 2000 movie.

That movie never happened.

Never I tell you.

Smiling Assassin27
09-29-2005, 09:29 AM
Shooter Jennings-Put The 'O' Back In ****ry
The Derailers-Mix
Ray Charles-Very Best Of
The Thorns-The Thorns

-Slap-
09-29-2005, 06:18 PM
Slap nails it.

I was never a Blues Bros. fan when it came to the music (I did like the first movie however). The renditions of classic soul and blues songs left much to be desired and the longer the bit went on (for three agonizing albums I think) the more it seemed to be a big ripoff of the music rather than a tribute to it.

Oh, good lord, there were three albums?

I retract what I said earlier. Ackroyd was a money grubbing weasel throughout. I give the dead Belushi a pass because he was riding the horse and incapable of ethical decision making.

Hogan11
09-29-2005, 06:46 PM
Oh, good lord, there were three albums?

I retract what I said earlier. Ackroyd was a money grubbing weasel throughout. I give the dead Belushi a pass because he was riding the horse and incapable of ethical decision making.

Yes, including the soundtrack...there were three records with Belushi (you're excused for not remembering the putrid Made In America).

There are a few live things that came out after John's passing featuring what you were talking about earlier in the thread.....I've never seen nor heard them and I really have no intention to.

Northman
10-03-2005, 06:44 PM
Vesania- God the Lux
Chimaira- s/t
Dew-Scented- Issue VI

DB-Freak
10-03-2005, 06:46 PM
Vesania- God the Lux
Chimaira- s/t
Dew-Scented- Issue VI
As a metal fan, how you like Sepultura?

Bronx33
10-04-2005, 04:24 PM
Anubis some time ago i lost all my bookmarks so my question is do you still do the web radio thing? an if so can i have the link again.

thanks in advance

Northman
10-04-2005, 08:21 PM
Ill answer both your questions. for DB- yea, ive been a long time Sep fan but i do miss the days when Max was with them but i can listen to the new stuff but it isnt the same obviously.

as for Bronx, yea, im still doing it but at a different location. im at Vertigo Radio now in the midst of doing a Battle of the bands kind of thing over the internet. you can catch me at these times:

www.vertigoradio.com

tues- 8-10pm
weds- 8-10pm
sat- 12-5pm

all these are Eastern times. and now that i think about it i saw Smiling Assassin on the tagboard the other day over there but i guess i missed him. stop in guys and check it out, we've done some upgrading to the site and are continueing to do different things.

RunByDesign
10-04-2005, 08:33 PM
http://www.okayplayer.com/nowhearthis/images/dmar_lp.jpg

01. Confrontation
02. There for You
03. Welcome to Jamrock
04. The Master Has Come Back
05. All Night
06. Beautiful
07. Pimpa's Paradise
08. Move!
09. For the Babies
10. Hey Girl
11. Road to Zion
12. We're Gonna Make It
13. In 2 Deep
14. Khaki Suit

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-05-2005, 12:39 AM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000001T6.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000001RM.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Nuggets4
10-06-2005, 03:56 PM
This is why Steven Thomas Erlewine is my favorite writer out there today. Read the whole review, it sets up the final sentence PERFECTLY!

With their fourth album, All the Right Reasons, Nickelback ditches any pretense of being a grunge band and finally acknowledges they're a straight-up heavy rock band. Not that they've left the angst of grunge behind: they're a modern rock band living in a post-grunge world, so there's lots of tortured emotions threaded throughout the 11 songs here. But where their previous albums roiled with anger -- their breakthrough "How You Remind Me" was not affectionate, it was snide and cynical -- there's a surprisingly large sentimental streak running throughout All the Right Reasons, and it's not just limited to heart-on-sleeve power ballads like "Far Away" and "Savin' Me," the latter being the latest entry in their soundalike sweepstakes. No, lead singer/songwriter Chad Kroeger is in a particularly pensive mood here, looking back fondly at his crazy times in high school on "Photograph" ("Look at this photograph/Every time I do it makes me laugh/How did our eyes get so red?/And what the hell is on Joey's head?"), lamenting the murder of Dimebag Darrell on "Side of a Bullet" (where a Dimebag solo is overdubbed), and, most touching of all, imagining "the day when nobody died" on "If Everyone Cared" (which would be brought about "If everyone cared and nobody cried/If everyone loved and nobody lied"). Appropriately enough for an album that finds Kroeger's emotional palette opening up, Nickelback try a few new things here, adding more pianos, keyboards, and acoustic guitars to not just their ballads, but a few of their big, anthemic rockers; they even sound a little bit light and limber on "Someone That You're With," the fastest tune here and a bit of relief after all the heavy guitars. All this makes for a more varied Nickelback album, but it doesn't really change their essence. Sure, they stretch a little bit, but they still favor clumsy, plodding riffs, still incessantly rewrite the same chords and melody, still harmonize exactly the same way on every song, Kroeger still sounds as if he's singing with a hernia, he still writes shockingly stupid lines that make you long for the days of such subtle double-entendres as "she's using her head again" (such as "She'd be pissed if she could see the parts of you that I've been kissing," "It's just a little hard to leave/When you're going down on me" -- and, mind you, this album does not carry a Parental Advisory sticker, even though "a**holes" is prominently used in two songs), and despite the attempted sarcasm of "Rockstar," he still shows no discernible sense of humor. Which means, despite all their newly developed relative nuances, Nickelback remain unchanged: they're still unspeakably awful.

AllMusic.com (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE57A1CD247A57E20D19C3C40DBA17EE129D64C EE831F29461BDFBA3C5487047BEC59E795CCB1E573AB7BAFFF 2BE85F05D7C2E455FBCC0640&sql=10:ut9ks33ea3vg)

Disco Man
10-06-2005, 04:42 PM
I'm unafraid to admit my guilty pleasures DenFan...she's one of mine.

Speaking of chick bass players...The Ponys have been around my area quite a bit since last November....seems Buffalo is a frequent stop....I may have to check them out again some day.

Of course...I have to mention The Donnas for the Disco Man WWWWwwwwwwwooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha!
Meeeeeeeeen WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Gene...................I have a cd with Ric Flair clips in my player

Hogan11
10-06-2005, 05:40 PM
This is why Steven Thomas Erlewine is my favorite writer out there today. Read the whole review, it sets up the final sentence PERFECTLY!

Great piece........and I couldn't agree with it more.

Hogan11
10-06-2005, 05:41 PM
Meeeeeeeeen WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Gene...................I have a cd with Ric Flair clips in my player

You mean, the mic spots are out on CD somewhere? ???

That's gotta be self-made......if it isn't, I'm crass enough to be picking that up shortly! WWWWOOOOOOO!!!!!! Ha!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-06-2005, 10:47 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000AS1HKY.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Just ordered this bad boy and I'm keeping an anxious eye on the mailbox.

Should be a virtuoso guitar lover's wet dream. :)

Disco Man
10-07-2005, 08:43 AM
You mean, the mic spots are out on CD somewhere? ???

That's gotta be self-made......if it isn't, I'm crass enough to be picking that up shortly! WWWWOOOOOOO!!!!!! Ha!
Meeeeaaaaaan Wooooooo Gene...yep it's self made and it's funny as hell!

ak1971
10-07-2005, 09:01 AM
Meeeeaaaaaan Wooooooo Gene...yep it's self made and it's funny as hell!


come on Disco its all about NWA....'find a good piece of p#ssy and....' :pimp:

Hogan11
10-07-2005, 09:59 AM
Meeeeaaaaaan Wooooooo Gene...yep it's self made and it's funny as hell!

...and why didn't you break that one out at the Sat. night get together or at the tailgate? ???

Northman
10-08-2005, 02:36 PM
Dawn of Relic- One Night in Carcosa
Twilight- S/T
Warmen- Beyond Abilities
Siebenburgen- Darker Designs & Images

Nuggets4
10-14-2005, 05:15 PM
I have no idea why, but I've been on a HUGE rap kick lately, making my list a little, well, unusual.

Jay-Z's entire catalog
Outkast's entire catalog

Add that to

Avenged Sevenfold - "City Of Evil" (great drumming and "Sidewinder" is one of the best tracks I've heard in a LONG time)
Alicia Keys - "Unplugged"
Steely Dan - "Citizen Steely Dan" (complete collection in one box set)
Fall Out Boy - "From Under The Cork Tree"
Transplants - "Haunted Cities"

Hogan11
10-14-2005, 07:54 PM
Steely Dan - "Citizen Steely Dan" (complete collection in one box set)


What a great box set that is....Steely Dan in it's prime was one of the very best duos the USA ever produced (and I say Duo because outside of Becker and Fagan, it was rotating session guys).

Today I was into the King Crimson box Frame By Frame......a dose of Robert Fripp's brilliance is necessary every once in awhile.

Nuggets4
10-15-2005, 09:37 AM
What a great box set that is....Steely Dan in it's prime was one of the very best duos the USA ever produced (and I say Duo because outside of Becker and Fagan, it was rotating session guys).

Not only that, but the sound quality. I mean, my God, there's stuff on there that sounds like it was made yesterday.

Sassy
10-15-2005, 10:25 AM
"SKA for Sassy" ;D :devil:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-15-2005, 04:57 PM
Steely Dan - "Citizen Steely Dan" (complete collection in one box set)


:thumbsup:

That's a tight package!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-15-2005, 05:03 PM
http://www.carlverheyen.com/CVB_RumorFrontSmall3.gif

Hogan11
10-15-2005, 08:41 PM
Bright Midnight has got it's shat back together and is starting to release more vintage live material...check it out:

DATE: THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2005


THE DOORS BREAK ON THROUGH
TO THE CITY OF BROTHERLY LOVE

Inspired Philadelphia Concert Captures The Band On Its Last Tour, Available From Rhino Handmade November 29


LOS ANGELES — Mr. Mojo was indeed rising when The Doors returned to the road in 1970 after a year plagued by concert cancellations stemming from controversial charges of lewd, indecent and drunken behavior from a March 1969 show in Miami. The Doors had just completed recording the astonishing Morrison Hotel when they launched a tour in April 1970 in Boston. Back on stage for what would be the band’s final tour before singer Jim Morrison’s death the following year, the band was dialed in and at their blistering best. Rhino Handmade Recordings captures one of the highlights from that spring tour with THE DOORS: LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA. Featuring the complete show recorded May 1, 1970 at the Spectrum, the two-disc set is available November 29 at www.rhinohandmade.com and select retail outlets for a suggested price of $29.98.

The evening began with the local fire marshal telling fans to return to their seats and clear the aisles or the show would be cancelled. When The Doors – Morrison, keyboardist Ray Manzarek, guitarist John Densmore and guitarist Robby Krieger – finally took to the stage, the quartet unleashed a stomping rendition of “Roadhouse Blues” from Morrison Hotel. The Philadelphia show found The Doors balancing the band’s mystical explorations with gritty blues and includes the band’s cover of Howlin’ Wolf’s “Back Door Man,” their own hits, “Light My Fire” and “Break On Through (To The Other Side)” along with epic musical voyages through “When The Music’s Over” and Elvis Presley’s “Mystery Train.”

Engineer Bruce Botnick recorded several shows – including the Philadelphia concert - on multi-track tape from The Doors’ 1970 tour for the Absolutely Live album. The superior quality of the original tape reflects Botnick’s and his team’s attention to sonic detail. Botnick also mixed and mastered THE DOORS: LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA. All tracks on LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA are previously unreleased.

The album’s liner notes vividly set the scene at the Spectrum and include recollections of the show by all three surviving band members. “That was where Doctor J [Julius Erving] played with the Philadelphia 76ers,” says Manzarek of the Spectrum, with a note of awe. “We were out there on the court – it was like the 76ers and the Lakers, but we were all on each other’s side. It was us and Philadelphia. And Philadelphia is a great, great town for rock and roll – one of the best in the country – not to mention cheese steak, which I had the next night.”

“We didn’t have monitors and the mains were pointed away from us,” Krieger recalls. “I couldn’t hear a damn thing. I felt like I was on acid. But I felt we played pretty well.”

“Jim was in good spirits,” notes Densmore. “By that I mean he was in that delicate balance where he had a buzz – which took the edge off his nerves – but wasn’t too intoxicated.”


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Rhino Handmade is a specialty label focusing on out of print or previously unreleased material. Rhino Handmade is primarily available from www.rhinohandmade.com.
-----------------------------



THE DOORS: LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA

Disc 1
1. Announcer “Sit Down”
2. Tuning
3. “Roadhouse Blues”
4. “Break On Through (To The Other Side)”
5. “Back Door Man/Love Hides”
6. “Ship Of Fools”
7. “Universal Mind”
8. “When The Music’s Over”
9. “Mystery Train”
10. “Wake Up!”
11. “Light My Fire”

Disc 2
1. The Concert Continues
2. “Maggie M’Gill”
3. Roadhouse Blues (Reprise)
4. “Been Down So Long/Rock Me Baby”
5. The Music Capital Of The World, Philadelphia
6. “Carol”
7. “Soul Kitchen”

Rocket 7
10-15-2005, 08:52 PM
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Northman
10-19-2005, 04:32 PM
Blut Aus Nord- Ultima Thulee
Sunn O)))- Black One
Dolorean- Violence in the Snowy Fields
Primal Fear- Seven Seals
Old Man's Child- Vermin

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-21-2005, 02:32 AM
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/704/gm15mp.jpg

The Snake
10-21-2005, 02:46 PM
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Greatest Hits

OrangeForceOne
10-21-2005, 04:21 PM
No CD .....98.5 The Rock of Long Island............Wooooooooooooo

BroncoInferno
10-22-2005, 05:29 AM
What a great box set that is....Steely Dan in it's prime was one of the very best duos the USA ever produced (and I say Duo because outside of Becker and Fagan, it was rotating session guys).

Today I was into the King Crimson box Frame By Frame......a dose of Robert Fripp's brilliance is necessary every once in awhile.

I'm gettin' a little ornery Hogan...you still haven't commented on Brian Jonestown Masscacre compilation yet. ;D

OrangeShadow
10-22-2005, 05:58 PM
jurassic 5- power in numbers

Hogan11
10-22-2005, 09:43 PM
I'm gettin' a little ornery Hogan...you still haven't commented on Brian Jonestown Masscacre compilation yet. ;D

I haven't got my mits on it yet BI....but it's on the list, I assure you.

BroncoInferno
10-23-2005, 08:27 AM
I haven't got my mits on it yet BI....but it's on the list, I assure you.

The new Big Star album is pretty good as well. Certainly not on par with #1 Record or Radio City, but how many records are?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-24-2005, 06:19 AM
Today's words of wisdom

"Led Zeppelin didn't write songs that everyone liked. They left that to the Bee Gees."

- Wayne Campbell

http://www.cassellsmusic.com/images/wayne1.gif

Nuggets4
10-24-2005, 07:55 AM
Finer words were never spoken.

Taco John
10-28-2005, 01:27 PM
I can't stop listening to System of a Down. I try, but what happens is I get a song in my head and I'm forced to put it on again. I'll listen to a CD and my craving will subside, but not for very long before another hook gets caught in my brain and I have to listen to another one. This process repeats itself until the day is over. It's great!

Sideburn
10-28-2005, 02:24 PM
I can't stop listening to System of a Down. I try, but what happens is I get a song in my head and I'm forced to put it on again. I'll listen to a CD and my craving will subside, but not for very long before another hook gets caught in my brain and I have to listen to another one. This process repeats itself until the day is over. It's great!
I've been singing 99 luft balloons all day...I'm ****ed.

Nuggets4
10-28-2005, 04:14 PM
I can't stop listening to System of a Down. I try, but what happens is I get a song in my head and I'm forced to put it on again. I'll listen to a CD and my craving will subside, but not for very long before another hook gets caught in my brain and I have to listen to another one. This process repeats itself until the day is over. It's great!

Their new album comes out November 22nd too! If it's as good as their last one.....wow.

Hogan11
10-28-2005, 04:35 PM
The new Big Star album is pretty good as well. Certainly not on par with #1 Record or Radio City, but how many records are?

Would you equate it to Third/Sister Lovers?

Northman
10-28-2005, 04:41 PM
Ive been listening to a 200 song mp3 disc that i made with various rock/metal bands on it. some of the bands i have on there include:

The Who
Mechina
Atrocity
Cheap Trick
Joe Walsh
Fear Factory
Mors Principum Est
Darkane
Obituary
David Lee Roth
Zebra
Boston
XYZ
Cradle of Filth
Ayreon
Megadeth
Lacuna Coil

and quite a few more. :)

alkemical
10-28-2005, 04:47 PM
i've been listening to Cash & INXS latley - INXS was far ahead of their own time - music today is what inxs was doing in the late 90's

Northman
10-28-2005, 04:49 PM
i've been listening to Cash & INXS latley - INXS was far ahead of their own time - music today is what inxs was doing in the late 90's


The One Thing- Great song!

alkemical
10-28-2005, 04:54 PM
The One Thing- Great song!


I'm sort of curious to see how good INXS is without hutchence (I so butchered his name) -

When actually listening to INXS and figuring out the music, it's genuis....

and no where in the 80's was anything so crossed over then when they dropped "kick"....

FADERPROOF
10-28-2005, 05:21 PM
Their new album comes out November 22nd too! If it's as good as their last one.....wow.

I agree, although I put Toxicity ahead of Mesmerize, both were unreal CD's. They're awesome in concert too so I hope they make another trip to Cleveland here shortly.

What I'm currently stuck on is City of Evil by Avenged Sevenfold, was never a big A7X fan up until recently, but one day I got the song "Bat country" stuck in my head and listened to the entire CD, and now I can't stop listening to avenged sevenfold.

DB-Freak
10-28-2005, 05:49 PM
I'm sort of curious to see how good INXS is without hutchence (I so butchered his name) -

When actually listening to INXS and figuring out the music, it's genuis....

and no where in the 80's was anything so crossed over then when they dropped "kick"....
Holy crap.

AMESJ!!!!!

Nuggets4
10-29-2005, 10:23 AM
I agree, although I put Toxicity ahead of Mesmerize, both were unreal CD's. They're awesome in concert too so I hope they make another trip to Cleveland here shortly.

What I'm currently stuck on is City of Evil by Avenged Sevenfold, was never a big A7X fan up until recently, but one day I got the song "Bat country" stuck in my head and listened to the entire CD, and now I can't stop listening to avenged sevenfold.

I LOVE "Sidewinder" on Avenged Sevenfold's CD. The acoustic guitar solos at the end are badass in headphones.

ak1971
10-29-2005, 11:22 AM
going through another rap period...

Tajai..Power Movement
Opio..Triangulation Station
Masta Ace..Slaughtahouse
Mos Def..The New Danger

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-31-2005, 12:53 AM
Got this bad boy on order:

http://www.uglystick.net/mt/assets/images/MTScover03.jpg

MT Speaks - The New CD by Guitarist Michael Thompson

http://www.michaelthompson.cc/

alkemical
10-31-2005, 09:14 AM
Holy crap.

AMESJ!!!!!


*Poof*

Hogan11
10-31-2005, 06:10 PM
*Poof*

Where the hell have you been?

alkemical
11-01-2005, 08:54 AM
I'm getting that alot latley

alkemical
11-01-2005, 02:51 PM
I've been not around online as you can/have noticed.

I've been doing lots of work, since the IT market took a crap. So i've been filling in time working at the rail-yard, and doing landscaping and clearing concrete - In addition to that i've been working on ways to hack RFID, building my own microwave transmitter, and working on/with alchemical principals. I've also been going to MASS alot to visit my friend that lives up there. In addition to all that i'm working on buying a new age book store.

I've had a hard time getting time to get online - i've been busy eating children and working.

Pezman
11-01-2005, 02:55 PM
I've been not around online as you can/have noticed.

I've been doing lots of work, since the IT market took a crap. So i've been filling in time working at the rail-yard, and doing landscaping and clearing concrete - In addition to that i've been working on ways to hack RFID, building my own microwave transmitter, and working on/with alchemical principals. I've also been going to MASS alot to visit my friend that lives up there. In addition to all that i'm working on buying a new age book store.

I've had a hard time getting time to get online - i've been busy eating children and working.

Its good to see you back around Josh! Lets hope you can stay for awhile :)

Rascal
11-03-2005, 01:40 PM
For those that want a site of some good oldies here is one:

http://chu65nang67.us/nam/vietnam.html

Scroll about half way down and there are four play lists.

alkemical
11-03-2005, 01:50 PM
I'm here for as long as i'm allowed.

Northman
11-03-2005, 02:12 PM
New pickups today:

Akerco(c)ke- The Goat of Mendes
Monolithe- Monolithe II
Deathspell Omega- Kenose
Demon Hunter- The Triptych

bronco militia
11-03-2005, 02:13 PM
http://www.avengedsevenfold.com/batcountry/

Hogan11
11-03-2005, 06:00 PM
"I Whupped Batman's Azz"

FADERPROOF
11-03-2005, 06:43 PM
I LOVE "Sidewinder" on Avenged Sevenfold's CD. The acoustic guitar solos at the end are badass in headphones.

Sidewinder is a great song, that whole CD is damn good, I just like that they make every song complete, there's no real short song(other than burn it down) and they put it together very well.

A7X is swiftly moving up my favorite bands list right now, can't get enough of them.

DB-Freak
11-03-2005, 07:09 PM
That CD is pretty impressive.

But still my favorite song from them has to be chapter four.

Deliverance-CoC
Come away with me-Norah Jones
Disraeli Gears-Cream
Blur-Blur

bronco militia
11-03-2005, 10:42 PM
A7X....

they remind me a little of each GNR/IronMaiden/Queensryche/Metallica/

Bronx33
11-04-2005, 01:37 PM
Eddie Kirkland- Trix recordings

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-04-2005, 06:39 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/section/movies/amg/dvd/cov150/drt600/t688/t68814kazpj.jpg

Hogan11
11-04-2005, 07:09 PM
http://www.raucousrecords.com/graphics/dalespacial.jpg

Getting ready for Sunday's show with the King of the Surf Guitar! !Booya!

The Snake
11-05-2005, 03:24 AM
Pink Floyd - The Wall

Nuggets4
11-05-2005, 10:08 AM
I just got a nice little SACD player so I had to pick up a few SACD's.

Tower Of Power - "Soul Vaccination Live"
Miles Davis - "Kind Of Blue"
Blood, Sweat & Tears - "Blood, Sweat & Tears"
Michael Jackson - "Thriller"
Pink Floyd - "Dark Side Of The Moon"

The last two are two of the best sounding recordings ever, and SACD really kicks it up a few notches and the first three are three of my favorite albums of all time.

BroncoInferno
11-05-2005, 10:12 AM
I just got a nice little SACD player so I had to pick up a few SACD's.

Tower Of Power - "Soul Vaccination Live"
Miles Davis - "Kind Of Blue"
Blood, Sweat & Tears - "Blood, Sweat & Tears"
Michael Jackson - "Thriller"
Pink Floyd - "Dark Side Of The Moon"

The last two are two of the best sounding recordings ever, and SACD really kicks it up a few notches and the first three are three of my favorite albums of all time.

The Rolling Stones ABCKO records sound awesome on SACD. Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed are must owns in that format.

Northman
11-05-2005, 01:46 PM
Negura Bunget- A Crugu Bradului
The Old Dead Tree- The Perpetual Motion
Soulfly- Dark Ages

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-06-2005, 05:43 PM
http://www.johnhumphrey.com/images/scott/us_cover.jpg

MajikMan7
11-06-2005, 08:26 PM
Project 86
http://www.profimusic.ch/catalog/catalog/images/project%2086%20rest.jpg

Avenged Sevenfold
http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drg800/g842/g84220npsb2.jpg

Number One Fan
http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/images/66/p23.jpg

Hawthorne Heights
http://www.interpunk.com/itemimages2/111504.jpg

Garden State (soundtrack)
http://aolshop.com/media/coverart/pop/cov200/drg400/g429/g42934t4lmw.jpg

Rocket 7
11-08-2005, 09:43 AM
Black Sabbath-Master of Reality

alkemical
11-08-2005, 10:05 AM
If there is one thing that Nirvana brought that was horrid - it was emo -

MajikMan7
11-08-2005, 01:54 PM
If there is one thing that Nirvana brought that was horrid - it was emo -

Nirvana did not bring emo. Nobody inparticular did, but if I had to pick one band as being the founder of emo it'd have to be, Rites of Spring. Emo is my favorite genre of music, to me it's very similar to punk rock but more melodic and introspective/depressing than hardcore.

alkemical
11-08-2005, 01:56 PM
Yeah, but until nirvana, there was no mainstream push -

MajikMan7
11-08-2005, 01:58 PM
Yeah, but until nirvana, there was no mainstream push -

yeah, you're right about that.

alkemical
11-08-2005, 02:03 PM
yeah, you're right about that.


I'm not a huge fan of emo myself - alot of it like dashboard confessional makes me sick - i understand the market for it - but blargh for me.

epicSocialism4tw
11-08-2005, 02:47 PM
If there is one thing that Nirvana brought that was horrid - it was emo -

Emo is really a continuation of some of the stuff going in in the 80's. Sunny Day Real Estate made the genre unique and popular in the underground scene while Nirvana was performing Nevermind. Nirvana really reached its height of influence after Cobain committed suicide in the mid-to-late 90's.

Emo really doesnt have much of a connection to Nirvana outside of the garage band movement that tied them together along with acts like Pearl Jam, Afghan Whigs, Dig, etc.

BroncoInferno
11-08-2005, 03:01 PM
Emo is really a continuation of some of the stuff going in in the 80's. Sunny Day Real Estate made the genre unique and popular in the underground scene while Nirvana was performing Nevermind. Nirvana really reached its height of influence after Cobain committed suicide in the mid-to-late 90's.

Emo really doesnt have much of a connection to Nirvana outside of the garage band movement that tied them together along with acts like Pearl Jam, Afghan Whigs, Dig, etc.

I think Weezer's Pinkterton albumn is generally given the nod as emo 101. Of course, Weezer's various influences played a hand as well...Pavement comes to mind.

Northman
11-08-2005, 03:06 PM
Horna- Various
Nachtmystium- Demise
Toxic Holocaust- Hell on Earth
Tsjuder- Demonic Possession
Rites of the Degringolade- An Ode to Sin

alkemical
11-08-2005, 03:15 PM
Emo is really a continuation of some of the stuff going in in the 80's. Sunny Day Real Estate made the genre unique and popular in the underground scene while Nirvana was performing Nevermind. Nirvana really reached its height of influence after Cobain committed suicide in the mid-to-late 90's.

Emo really doesnt have much of a connection to Nirvana outside of the garage band movement that tied them together along with acts like Pearl Jam, Afghan Whigs, Dig, etc.


Well i'm not arguing when nirvana's influence was at it's peak - but the fact is, emo became more mainstream upon that point - that's the point i was making pointidly :)

epicSocialism4tw
11-08-2005, 03:19 PM
I think Weezer's Pinkterton albumn is generally given the nod as emo 101. Of course, Weezer's various influences played a hand as well...Pavement comes to mind.


You can go further than those bands to the Pixies as a primary influence for many Emo bands. In 1988 the Pixies released "Come On Pilgrim" with the songs "Levitate Me" and "Caribou" that have alot of the vulnerable punk timbre that Emo has. The Pixies should be given credit for the garage band movement of the early 90's and the success for bands like Pavement, Nirvana, Foo Fighters, etc.

Other Emo influences are the Cure, Peter Gabriel, Depeche Mode, etc. Then you have to look at alot of the hardcore metal bands that took the aggressive vocals shown by Black Francis of the Pixies to another level.

On Weezer...there influences are a bit older. You can thank Brian May of Queen, Kiss, and the Cars for Weezer. In fact, Ric Okasic has produced for Weezer.

epicSocialism4tw
11-08-2005, 03:24 PM
Well i'm not arguing when nirvana's influence was at it's peak - but the fact is, emo became more mainstream upon that point - that's the point i was making pointidly :)


Well, I included that bit of information to show you that they were born out of the same movement and are more like cousins than father and son. Sunny Day Real Estate played in the same venues with Nirvana in Seattle. In fact, Jeremy Enigk and co. began recording "Diary" in 1992.

alkemical
11-08-2005, 03:27 PM
Well, I included that bit of information to show you that they were born out of the same movement and are more like cousins than father and son. Sunny Day Real Estate played in the same venues with Nirvana in Seattle. In fact, Jeremy Enigk and co. began recording "Diary" in 1992.


Yah, i've been to the EMP in seattle - well i lived in seattle - and that park beside pikes place is nice, but the sprinklers come on at 5:00a

epicSocialism4tw
11-08-2005, 03:55 PM
Yah, i've been to the EMP in seattle - well i lived in seattle - and that park beside pikes place is nice, but the sprinklers come on at 5:00a

Sunny Day Real Estate released the song 48 in 1993. There's a link provided below. This is not the album version, where the chorus is much more energetic and more dramatic dynamically. You get the idea though. Typical emo guitar sounds, unorthodox drumming, vocal vulnerability and vocal patterns.

Here's one of Jeremy Enigk's solo songs called Lewis Hollow. I think that you can hear some of his emo-esque influence in there. Unflortunately, he has been defined by his influence on emo while really drawing from a sort of traditional northern european folk muse.

Christ is Risen is a song that he recorded for his album "Return of the Frog Queen."

Lewis Hollow
http://www.subpop.com/bands/jeremy/sounds/jeremy3-323.mp2

Christ is Risen (live)
http://www.oklahoma.net/~jlondon/sdre.html

48
http://www.oklahoma.net/~jlondon/sdre.html

Nuggets4
11-08-2005, 04:05 PM
How emo has gone from brilliant stuff like the artists that Llama mentioned to the jokers like Hawthorne Heights is beyond me. Although HH does provide, on a scale of 1-10, an unintentional comedy rating of 7,402,479 so they've got that going for them I guess.

Just ordered the Led Zep complete box set (I only had their first four albums, I know, blasphemous) and also found a good Motown box set. Hopefully they'll be here soon.

alkemical
11-08-2005, 04:08 PM
I"ve been into alot of stuff like Nina Simone and cuban music latley -

no lie - one of the best bands i've seen live was thin lizzy

alkemical
11-08-2005, 04:10 PM
See i'm not a huge fan of emo - i think the most emo-ish band i like would be modest mouse - hawthorn hights and dashboard, et al - drive me nuts with all this whiney crap -

I love music, i love all kinds of music - but damn is there alot of bad music.

epicSocialism4tw
11-08-2005, 04:11 PM
How emo has gone from brilliant stuff like the artists that Llama mentioned to the jokers like Hawthorne Heights is beyond me. Although HH does provide, on a scale of 1-10, an unintentional comedy rating of 7,402,479 so they've got that going for them I guess.

Just ordered the Led Zep complete box set (I only had their first four albums, I know, blasphemous) and also found a good Motown box set. Hopefully they'll be here soon.

(with sarcasm)
Nuggets4, I think that the 13 year old girls liked the "cool" emo style, but didnt like the scary music so the record companies obliged their whims and provided them with bands like Good Charlotte and Dashboard Confessional.

Ugh!

Northman
11-08-2005, 04:17 PM
i never considered those early bands as emo, just alternative rock.

epicSocialism4tw
11-08-2005, 04:23 PM
i never considered those early bands as emo, just alternative rock.

That works also Anubis, as a general category.

MajikMan7
11-08-2005, 09:22 PM
good emo bands: Rites of Spring, Maximillian Colby, Shotmaker, Sleepytime Trio, Heroin, Sunny Day Real Estate, Hoover, The Get Up Kids, Swing Kids, caP'n Jazz, Jimmy Eat World, Taking Back Sunday, Thursday and Underoath.

bad emo bands: Dashboard Confessional, My Chemical Romance, The Used, Fall Out Boy..........many many more

epicSocialism4tw
11-08-2005, 09:59 PM
good emo bands: Rites of Spring, Maximillian Colby, Shotmaker, Sleepytime Trio, Heroin, Sunny Day Real Estate, Hoover, The Get Up Kids, Swing Kids, caP'n Jazz, Jimmy Eat World, Taking Back Sunday, Thursday and Underoath.

bad emo bands: Dashboard Confessional, My Chemical Romance, The Used, Fall Out Boy..........many many more

I always liked Pedro the Lion. Are they still doing anything?

Hogan11
11-11-2005, 05:35 PM
Two releases coming out for Xmas:

THE DOORS LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA '70 Nov. 29th thru Rhino Handmade. Pre-orders have not started yet: http://www.thedoors.com/bma/news.html

Jimi Hendrix's last show, THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE: LIVE AT THE ISLE OF FEHMARN coming out Dec. 13th. Pre-orders are going on now: http://www.daggerrecords.com/disc8.html

I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-14-2005, 12:24 AM
http://www.stevelukather.net/images/pictures/grupoluxem4.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-14-2005, 12:25 AM
http://www.stevelukather.net/images/pictures/grupobern3.jpg

Hogan11
11-14-2005, 06:44 AM
one of the best bands i've seen live was thin lizzy

You must've been a little guy then since Phil Lynott passed away in 1981. I don't think they ever regrouped after that. If you did see Phil before he shuffled off this mortal coil, then kudos to you...that guy had one of the smoothest voices ever.

alkemical
11-14-2005, 09:12 AM
no they were in york, pa a few years ago - played at the wheelie bar in that down - so it was not the 'original' band.

Hogan11
11-14-2005, 02:55 PM
no they were in york, pa a few years ago - played at the wheelie bar in that down - so it was not the 'original' band.

Ah so they did regroup and tour then eh? Who handled the vocals?

alkemical
11-14-2005, 02:57 PM
To be honest hogan, i don't really remember - i was a few min late to the show and was preoccupied by my female companion at times.

epicSocialism4tw
11-14-2005, 04:23 PM
Ah so they did regroup and tour then eh? Who handled the vocals?


It was Justin Timberlake.

alkemical
11-14-2005, 04:32 PM
I must also say it wasn't in my most sober of daze either -

epicSocialism4tw
11-14-2005, 04:38 PM
I must also say it wasn't in my most sober of daze either -

You were really at the NSynch cover band "cover's the 70's" concert.

alkemical
11-14-2005, 04:40 PM
might have been :)

Jens1893
11-14-2005, 04:50 PM
ska p

Northman
11-14-2005, 05:00 PM
Mechina- The Assembly of Tyrants

alkemical
11-15-2005, 08:38 AM
I saw that ozzy is coming out with a covers album......

Nuggets4
11-15-2005, 11:09 AM
System of a Down's new album (http://www.mtv.com/music/#/music/the_leak/system_of_a_down/hypnotize/index.jhtml) on MTV.com. I haven't had a chance to listen yet. I'll try after work.

Northman
11-15-2005, 04:45 PM
I saw that ozzy is coming out with a covers album......


Yep, so is Def Leppard.

alkemical
11-15-2005, 04:46 PM
*shakeshead*

Jens1893
11-15-2005, 05:00 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000B8QF14.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2005, 05:04 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000B8QF14.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


Ugh! Green Day! I expected more from you, Jens!

Jens1893
11-15-2005, 05:09 PM
Ugh! Green Day! I expected more from you, Jens!

my current playlists consits of blink182, böhse onkelz, dropkick murphys, coldplay, franz ferdinand, eminem, korn, limp bizkit, linkin park, metallica, nirvana, rammstein, ska p, the offspring and green day.

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2005, 05:10 PM
my current playlists consits of blink182, böhse onkelz, dropkick murphys, coldplay, franz ferdinand, eminem, korn, limp bizkit, linkin park, metallica, nirvana, rammstein, ska p, the offspring and green day.

Are you still in Germany?

Jens1893
11-15-2005, 05:12 PM
Are you still in Germany?

yes, but please note there´s 2 german bands on there. ;)

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2005, 05:15 PM
yes, but please note there´s 2 german bands on there. ;)

Have you heard Tool? I noticed you had alot of heavy bands on that list.

Jens1893
11-15-2005, 05:18 PM
Have you heard Tool? I noticed you had alot of heavy bands on that list.

nope, but it might be worth checking out. thanks.

my full playlist for now is in the attachment.

epicSocialism4tw
11-15-2005, 05:23 PM
nope, but it might be worth checking out. thanks.

I think that they are the best heavy group out there. The songs "Sober" and "Prison Sex" should hit the spot at first.

You should check out System of a Down...they are another interesting heavy band.

Hogan11
11-15-2005, 11:33 PM
Yep, so is Def Leppard.

They should be lined up and shot for what they did to Badfinger's "No Matter What"......whatta hack job :nono:

Northman
11-16-2005, 03:27 AM
nope, but it might be worth checking out. thanks.

my full playlist for now is in the attachment.



Hmmm, you like yourself some metal eh? check these playlists out: one is metal the other is Rock/nu-metal.


Metal List
http://www.geocities.com/mr_djanubis/AnubisMp3list.htm

Rock List
http://www.geocities.com/mr_djanubis/RockPlaylist.htm


I still have more to add to the Rock list but im not finished uploading all my stuff yet. :P

OrangeShadow
11-16-2005, 05:42 AM
Three 6 mafia the most known unkowns mixed with boyz n da hood

alkemical
11-16-2005, 08:26 AM
If you want metal, listen to anubis - he's got the pulse -

I love tool as well, but i will say one thing - the later the albums, the more you may have to read in stuff to 'get' what they are singing about - some of it is omage to somethings - but for the music - you don't have to do that to enjoy it -

Personally i see tool like the doors in alot of ways -

I"ve been listening to TypeONegative Latley

epicSocialism4tw
11-16-2005, 08:30 AM
Kings X is a good heavy band that I never hear anyone mention anymore.

DB-Freak
11-16-2005, 03:32 PM
Tool's a good band, but they wear me out now.

The only song I can tolerate from them now are 46 and 2, Reflection, and undertow.

epicSocialism4tw
11-16-2005, 03:36 PM
Tool's a good band, but they wear me out now.

The only song I can tolerate from them now are 46 and 2, Reflection, and undertow.

They definately need to release some new stuff.

alkemical
11-16-2005, 03:49 PM
la-te-ra-lus was their best album musically - but they have their downpoints - like a 2min intro into EVERY song

DB-Freak
11-16-2005, 03:50 PM
They definately need to release some new stuff.
It's not just that.

I don't know how most think, but their prog-rock style can really wear me out, because I don't think they are that talented musicians like some prog-rock bands out there and **** gets really repetitive and mediocore at times with their long and constant interludes.

And I am no longer too drawn in with the so called "deep and meaningful" lyrics. I swore by them in my music taste, but I eventually realized it's just music.

All up to personal taste.

DB-Freak
11-16-2005, 03:51 PM
la-te-ra-lus was their best album musically - but they have their downpoints - like a 2min intro into EVERY song
LOL

Their ****ing interludes show almost no change or progress.

It's just so damn ****ing repetitive.

THey really wear me out with that.