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Bronx33
05-01-2008, 09:32 PM
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Los Broncos
05-23-2008, 10:28 AM
Blind Willie Johnson, James Harman...

Hogan11
05-23-2008, 11:48 AM
Rain by Joe Jackson.....if you liked the Ramsey Lewis Trio, you'll love this, trust me.

Los Broncos
05-23-2008, 06:30 PM
Today its Blind Willie Mctell with a little metal mixed in.

Doggcow
05-23-2008, 07:12 PM
Nonpoint - Vengeance
Neurosonic - Drama Queen
Ekotren - Light the Fire

FADERPROOF
05-24-2008, 09:03 AM
Nine inch Nails - the slip

Los Broncos
05-24-2008, 05:16 PM
Allman Brothers - Jessica, love it, so happy.

Kid A
05-25-2008, 02:55 PM
Vampire Weekend
Portishead- Third

epicSocialism4tw
05-25-2008, 03:38 PM
Vampire Weekend
Portishead- Third


The Portishead bit is a nice slice of pie.

Los Broncos
05-25-2008, 03:54 PM
Nothing but the blues on 88.1 KJAZZ.

BroncoBuff
05-25-2008, 04:21 PM
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Jenny Owen Youngs

Hogan11
05-25-2008, 08:42 PM
Washignton DC's Exit Clov..."Respond Respond" EP. New Wavish stuff with Lush-like vocals from two identical twin sisters. The more I listen to it, the better it gets.

"MK Ultra"
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"Violent Berries"
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-26-2008, 12:33 AM
Bill Connors - The Assembler
Allan Holdsworth - Metal Fatigue
Jeff Beck - Guitar Shop, Blow by Blow, and Wired
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Steve Lukather - Ever Changing Times

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-26-2008, 12:36 AM
Speaking of Jeff Beck, get a load of this girl playing bass for him.

She's only 21 years old. Holy crap!

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Los Broncos
05-26-2008, 01:55 PM
Charley Patton - King of the delta blues box set.

DB-Freak
05-26-2008, 07:31 PM
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Liquid Tension Experiment

Something upbeat to get my mood lifted.

DB-Freak
05-26-2008, 07:32 PM
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something chill with eric johnson.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-27-2008, 12:03 AM
That last studio record by EJ ("Bloom") had some nice stuff on it.

epicSocialism4tw
05-27-2008, 07:39 PM
The Rentals - Seven More Minutes

...there are a couple of Matt Sharp classics on this one..."Barcelona" could have been on the Weezer blue album and "Big Daddy C" sounds like it came straight out of Pinkerton.

Sharp produced this one and it's lacking in that department. It could have used a touch up in just about every aspect of the album. The guitars are thin, the bass is less present than it should be, and the vocals sound like they were recorded in a dead room.

Bronx33
05-27-2008, 08:13 PM
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Bronx33
05-27-2008, 08:21 PM
Speaking of Jeff Beck, get a load of this girl playing bass for him.

She's only 21 years old. Holy crap!

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www.talwilkenfeld.com

Los Broncos
06-01-2008, 11:34 PM
Muddy Waters: The anthology two disc.

Blind Willie Johnson: Complete recordings.

Hogan11
06-03-2008, 07:02 AM
Found a couple of vintage Life, Sex And Death videos from back in the day

DON'T PLAY THIS ONE AT WORK OR IN FRONT OF KIDS: "F'n S A"
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and "School's For Fools" (this one is ok to play anywhere)
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Stanley was quite the character...someone told me he's doing stand up instead of singing these days, hopefully he finally bathed.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-04-2008, 04:14 AM
Need to go score this package a.s.a.p.:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9864208

Two thumbs up for the new singer!

Los Broncos
06-08-2008, 04:17 PM
Harmonica Jones, James Harman, Lead Belly: Secret history of rock and roll.

Los Broncos
06-08-2008, 04:18 PM
Need to go score this package a.s.a.p.:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9864208

Two thumbs up for the new singer!

Thats a good deal.

ak1971
06-08-2008, 05:55 PM
I've been listening to the soundtrack from Office Space..I forgot how how much I love the Geto Boys.

epicSocialism4tw
06-08-2008, 09:01 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-11/1227628/morphine_1_small.jpgMorphine: Live in Detroit



- for anyone who missed Sandman and Morphine, you missed one of the most unique and fulfilling embodiments of raw blues and street jazz that have come around in decades.

The slide-bass/double-baritone sax groove is like liquid thunder. These guys built a unique sophisticated blend of blues that really should be treated as one of the more interesting creations of the genre in years.

Hogan11
06-08-2008, 09:08 PM
Exit Clov - Respond Respond E.P.
The Brian Johnstown Massacre - Tepid Peppermint Wonderland: A Retrospective

BroncoInferno
06-08-2008, 09:44 PM
The Brian Johnstown Massacre - Tepid Peppermint Wonderland: A Retrospective

What did ya think of this, Hogan? BJM is a favorite of mine.

alkemical
06-09-2008, 09:56 AM
The Get Out Clause, Manchester stars of CCTV (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/1938076/The-Get-Out-Clause,-Manchester's-stars-of-CCTV-cameras.html)

Many people are uncomfortable with the march of the surveillance state but a Manchester band has used it to their advantage.

They got a video, check this out...

Florida_Bronco
06-09-2008, 12:43 PM
I'm really liking this new 3 Doors Down song.


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alkemical
06-09-2008, 12:50 PM
http://www.discobiscuits.com/

Raider Bill
06-09-2008, 09:14 PM
David Lee Roth - Eat 'Em and Smile

Hogan11
06-10-2008, 12:52 AM
What did ya think of this, Hogan? BJM is a favorite of mine.

Admittingly, I haven't paid much attention to the BJ Massacre since being disappointed years ago by Strung Out In Heaven....this is so much better than that, it isn't even funny.

alkemical
06-10-2008, 09:47 AM
<a href="http://graphjam.com/2008/05/08/song-chart-memes-thats-great/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-724" src="http://graphjam.wordpress.com/files/2008/04/funny-graphs-end-of-the-world-flowchart.gif" alt="song chart memes" /></a><br />more <a href="http://graphjam.com">graph humor and song chart memes</a>

Los Broncos
06-10-2008, 10:28 AM
Finis Talsby.....nice and warm.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-10-2008, 02:25 PM
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The Teddybears with the man.

Hogan11
06-10-2008, 09:03 PM
More Brian Jonestown Massacre
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What's with Anton always getting into fist fights on stage?

Los Broncos
06-11-2008, 01:13 AM
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Butterfield

Hogan11
06-14-2008, 12:48 AM
I'm really getting into that Brian Jonestown Massacre CD Inferno....gets better and better and grows on you more and more with every listening.

My fave? "When Jokers Attack"
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Los Broncos
06-14-2008, 02:08 AM
Guitar Slim - Sufferin' mind.

Los Broncos
06-17-2008, 02:02 AM
A little Stevie Wonder..

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-17-2008, 04:34 AM
Thats a good deal.

:yep:

2 CDs + 1 DVD for 11.88 is a pretty good deal.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-17-2008, 04:48 AM
How 'bout some Raging Honkies?!?

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Yes, that's Abe Laboriel Jr. (Paul McCartney) on drums.

Los Broncos
06-17-2008, 10:32 AM
:yep:

2 CDs + 1 DVD for 11.88 is a pretty good deal.

No kidding, good for you. :)

Hogan11
06-17-2008, 11:35 AM
One of the very best underground groups out there today....Toronto's own Bedouin Soundclash
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Hogan11
06-18-2008, 01:42 AM
Check this out, found some old footage of the brilliant roadshow for National Lampoon's Lemmings....basically a show from 1973 that had a lot of SNL guys in it. It made fun of Woodstock, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, James Taylor and Joe Cocker et. al.

The Bob Dylan parody
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The James Taylor paraody
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and of course, Belushi's classic Joe Cocker sendup
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alkemical
06-18-2008, 04:09 PM
<div><object width="420" height="336"><param name="movie" value="http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x3az8t&related=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x3az8t&related=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="420" height="336" allowFullScreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always"></embed></object><br /><b><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3az8t_buckethead-whitewash_music">Buckethead - Whitewash</a></b><br /><i>Uploaded by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/Satch_Jr">Satch_Jr</a></i></div>

Los Broncos
06-19-2008, 12:35 AM
I remember seeing bucket head way back when.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-19-2008, 03:19 AM
LOS LOBOTOMYS action!

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Killericon
06-19-2008, 03:32 AM
http://www.clickmusic.com/upload/neptune300.jpg

24champ
06-19-2008, 03:43 AM
I like the Coldplay Viva La Vida CD so far....not so bad.

I wasn't a fan of their last album so much with XY.

alkemical
06-19-2008, 08:52 AM
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-20-2008, 11:15 PM
http://91.103.160.40/admin2/public/hudba/rockpop/Journey-Revelation-137724.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-20-2008, 11:45 PM
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bfoflcommish
06-24-2008, 11:26 AM
Tech n9ne "killer"

Los Broncos
06-26-2008, 12:47 AM
Ry Cooder - How can a poor man stand such hard times.

Hogan11
06-26-2008, 09:04 PM
When life gets stressful, Bill Evans chills me out....Waltz For Debby, a jazz classic
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BroncoBuff
06-26-2008, 09:47 PM
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This is a clue to the "test"

BroncoBuff
06-26-2008, 09:49 PM
When life gets stressful, Bill Evans chills me out....Waltz For Debby, a jazz classic
I'll see your chilly Three Time, and raise you Two ...

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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-26-2008, 11:56 PM
When life gets stressful, Bill Evans chills me out....Waltz For Debby, a jazz classic
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I have a cool book of Bill Evans lines transcribed for guitar.

A weath of material there. :thumbsup:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-27-2008, 12:00 AM
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This is a clue to the "test"

PF was one of my earliest guitar heroes (both with Humble Pie and his solo career.)

His melodicism and his ability to subtly weave jazz lines into rock solos made him stand out from the pack in the 70s.

alkemical
06-27-2008, 01:09 PM
Type O's: Least worst of

epicSocialism4tw
06-27-2008, 01:31 PM
Ben Kweller

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-28-2008, 05:54 AM
http://www.patrick-hoss.de/landau/RH_Boner.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-28-2008, 05:59 AM
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BroncoBuff
06-28-2008, 03:40 PM
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Come with me now ... On my magical fly-away

BroncoBuff
06-28-2008, 03:43 PM
When life gets stressful, Bill Evans chills me out....Waltz For Debby, a jazz classic
I'll see your chilly Three Time, and raise you Two ...
Get it?

Your waltz is in 3-time, and 'Take Five' is in 5-time .... soooo... "I'll raise you TWO" ... see?






Oh just forget it ... :nono:

BroncoBuff
06-28-2008, 03:49 PM
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Top 15 All-Time Classic Rock

Hogan likes = Z E R O

BroncoBuff
06-28-2008, 03:55 PM
Only one step away
Before I touch the bay
Do I still have to pay
Sand between my toes
And nobody knows how I'm feeling
Just not healing
We'll do it again one more time

I'm not turning you away
I'm needing some advice
If you think I'm running out
It's you I want to live with
Till I can't go any further
Lovin' you
We'll do it again one more time

Only one step away
Before I show the world
All the hurt you have inside
Only lasts awhile
'Cause nobody knows how I'm feeling
Just not healing
We'll do it again one more time
Till I can't go any further
Lovin' you
We'll do it again one more time
Nobody knows how I'm feeling
Just not healing
We'll do it again one more time

The vibes and backing vocals were NAILS on this one :thumbs:


** Actually listening now, that's all guitars. The vibes were on Cying Clown.

LordHelmchen
06-29-2008, 03:13 AM
Judas Priest - Nostradamus

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-29-2008, 09:15 AM
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Come with me now ... On my magical fly-away

Here's how to play this song:

1) If you want to play the song in the same key as PF plays it in the video, then tune your guitar to 'A' tuning (low to high: E A E A C# E)

2) If you are worried about putting too much tension on your guitar's neck, then you can drop the whole thing down a full step to 'G' tuning (D G D G B D)

3) I just tabbed the parts - not the entire form (since I'm sure you know how the song goes.)

4) On the first line of tab, you can omit the notes on the 'A' and low 'E' strings if you want (i.e., just play the part of the chord that's on the top four strings.)

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3633/pfntfvo5.jpg

Los Broncos
06-30-2008, 01:29 AM
Blind Willie Mctell - Last dime blues, blues around midnight.

alkemical
06-30-2008, 03:21 PM
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alkemical
06-30-2008, 04:08 PM
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The distillers - enjoy! (I love punk rock girls!)

alkemical
06-30-2008, 04:31 PM
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Hogan11
06-30-2008, 06:13 PM
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Top 15 All-Time Classic Rock

Hogan likes = Z E R O

Actually, that's not even close to being true, as I like #'s 15,14,10,9,8,5 & 4

That's not to say that it still isn't a pretty piss poor list though.

alkemical
07-01-2008, 01:17 PM
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24champ
07-08-2008, 02:24 AM
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:peace:

Killericon
07-08-2008, 04:31 AM
http://images.roosterteeth.com/Killericon48731d8f5464b.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-09-2008, 06:29 AM
http://www.patrick-hoss.de/landau/BW_burning_water.jpg

http://www.patrick-hoss.de/landau/BW_mood_elevator.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-09-2008, 06:43 AM
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/ee/a5/6834f0cdd7a012ab68d87110.L.jpg

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Hogan11
07-10-2008, 01:23 AM
Definitely an acquired taste and not for everyone, but I did love The Tubes.

Hence, my fave Tubes video
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-10-2008, 02:49 AM
Definitely an acquired taste and not for everyone, but I did love The Tubes.

Hence, my fave Tubes video
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Always liked that tune.

BTW, the song was co-written by L.A. studio ace Steve Lukather. :thumbsup:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-11-2008, 05:14 AM
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DB-Freak
07-11-2008, 04:04 PM
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Probably the best bodom song.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-12-2008, 09:19 AM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Z9VKZJGNL._SL500_.jpg

BroncoBuff
07-12-2008, 10:19 AM
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Gnarls Barkley ... 21st Century revival of good old fashioned soul.

This video is not theirs, but rather a homemade video cover, a preachy world-citizen statement video. The Odd Couple is a great album, tops on my Sansa Clip :thumbs:

Hogan11
07-12-2008, 10:35 AM
Here's a new wave classic for Broncobuff
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Talk about totally artless...I dig the guy with the glass of water, there's some heavy contimplation going on there

DB-Freak
07-12-2008, 01:02 PM
Here's a new wave classic for Broncobuff
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Talk about totally artless...I dig the guy with the glass of water, there's some heavy contimplation going on there

lol I actually like it.

Dagmar
07-12-2008, 04:11 PM
http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/wp-content/pictures/2008/05/frankturner_loveiresongcover.jpg

Hogan11
07-13-2008, 12:35 AM
lol I actually like it.

Yeah, Trio was a very weird, German...I guess you could call it a band. There's an actual concert posted on you tube from them. The lead vocalist uses some kinda weird throat mike half the time that I've never seen anyone else ever use before or since. Definitely an acquired taste, it's gets less funny and more cool with repeated listenings and has aged fairly well over the years IMHO.
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oubronco
07-13-2008, 04:38 PM
The Dustin Pittsley Band

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=3928812

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbMRfDb9vTM

alkemical
07-14-2008, 01:33 PM
Kings Of Leon - California Waiting Lyrics



Little Mona Lisa laying by my side
"Crimson and Clover" pullin' overtime
I Fell too close to be losin' touch
By givin' in, what am I givin' up
Am I losin' way too much

Hey
California waiting
Every little thing's gotta be just right
Say
While you're tryin' to save me
Can't I get back my lonely life

I'm goin' so fast that I can't slow down
It's hard to get up when you're spinnin' round and round
I'd tell you the news but nothin's changed
I'd sing you a song but they blew it away
All wrapped up in this stupid ass game

Hey
California waiting
Every little thing's gotta be just right
Say
While you're tryin' to save me
Can't I get back my lonely life
Can't I get back my lonely life

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-15-2008, 07:48 AM
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Hogan11
07-15-2008, 08:46 PM
A band I miss a lot....The Stone Roses
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Rohirrim
07-15-2008, 09:00 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61CCG5tDlFL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Hogan11
07-16-2008, 01:00 AM
For Broncobuff
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epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2008, 01:07 AM
Ben Kweller

Hogan11
07-16-2008, 02:48 AM
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bronco militia
07-17-2008, 12:42 PM
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9229/deathmagneticcover800x6pp9.jpg

bronco militia
07-17-2008, 12:44 PM
Metallica covers 'Remember Tomorrow' for Iron Maiden tribute CD

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epicSocialism4tw
07-18-2008, 01:15 AM
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Okay, they have to cover "Age of Aquarius", no?

Hogan11
07-18-2008, 02:53 AM
Okay, they have to cover "Age of Aquarius", no?

I thought they did a nice job on it myself. I was wrong to write them off after the early releases didn't impress me much.

epicSocialism4tw
07-18-2008, 02:56 AM
I thought they did a nice job on it myself. I was wrong to write them off after the early releases didn't impress me much.

You have to be kidding...they covered "Aquarius"?

Hogan11
07-18-2008, 03:00 AM
You have to be kidding...they covered "Aquarius"?

No...but "Sailor" is a cover of an obscure psychedelic nugget from the late 60's.

Hogan11
07-18-2008, 04:25 AM
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epicSocialism4tw
07-18-2008, 10:42 PM
No...but "Sailor" is a cover of an obscure psychedelic nugget from the late 60's.

Good. Aquarius is a beating.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-21-2008, 08:37 AM
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alkemical
07-21-2008, 09:03 AM
i got 10000 days playing again.....

epicSocialism4tw
07-21-2008, 01:01 PM
Back to the basics...

Frank Black - Cult of Ray
While this wasnt Thompson's most popular effort, I believe that its packed full of excellent tracks. For the Black purist, this album has as many home runs as his first record. Cult really showcases Lyle Workman as one of the most creative and skilled "underground" rock guitar players of his era. From beginning to end, this album has always struck me as one of Thompson's best and most complete efforts.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-21-2008, 06:51 PM
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Rohirrim
07-21-2008, 07:54 PM
:thumbsup: LABF. Hilarious! I forgot how big Mick's lips are. And even Keith looks mostly humanoid. It looks like Bill and Charlie were barely awake. I always thought Charlie looked like one of those marionettes from that underwater kid's show The Thunderbirds.

This is what I've got in the car cd player right now:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411FxwsvuHL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Hogan11
07-22-2008, 12:36 AM
Forget Rick Rolled...this thread just got PLANTMANNED!!!!! Ha!
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-22-2008, 05:51 AM
:thumbsup: LABF.

I was listening to "Some Girls" this morning, and came across that Youtube video a few hours later. I had no idea the Stones had even done a video for "Far Away Eyes."

Those lyrics still crack me up 30 years later. :D



Hilarious! I forgot how big Mick's lips are. And even Keith looks mostly humanoid. It looks like Bill and Charlie were barely awake. I always thought Charlie looked like one of those marionettes from that underwater kid's show The Thunderbirds.

Yep - Steven Tyler of Aerosmith may be Mick's only competition in that department. Wyman and Watts were/are definitely a couple of eccentric characters.


This is what I've got in the car cd player right now:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411FxwsvuHL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Nice! :thumbsup:

One of my favorite Metheney projects was this concert with Joni:

http://www.guitarch.com/Joni%20Shadows.jpg

Hogan11
07-22-2008, 06:44 AM
Some Girls is a good album, but other than Mick, they look pretty bored doing that track....maybe that was the point. I'll take it over "Miss You" but I wouldn't take it over any other track on that release. Too bad it appears they are the only two songs off the album they did vids for at the time.

Earendil
07-22-2008, 06:48 AM
Still Queen, still stunned Freddie Mercury is a better friend to me than some I've known since Broncomania was still Broncomania, and never mind he's been dead since I was in HS.

Also: Buy, borrow or steal a copy of Neck and Neck. If you like Country: Chet Atkins. If you like Rock: Mark Knopfler. If you like jazz: Both.

BroncoInferno
07-22-2008, 08:57 AM
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-22-2008, 07:10 PM
Some Girls is a good album, but other than Mick, they look pretty bored doing that track....maybe that was the point. I'll take it over "Miss You" but I wouldn't take it over any other track on that release. Too bad it appears they are the only two songs off the album they did vids for at the time.

Yeah - the vid is crappy and doesn't do the song justice, IMO.

You can even hear a couple spots where they punched in vocals.

Orange_Beard
07-22-2008, 07:21 PM
Hold Steady- Stay Positive.
I am digging it.

Kid A
07-23-2008, 12:00 AM
Black Lips- Good Bad Not Evil

Beck- Modern Guilt

No Age- Nouns

Hogan11
07-23-2008, 12:40 AM
Yeah - the vid is crappy and doesn't do the song justice, IMO.

You can even hear a couple spots where they punched in vocals.

It's too bad too , because there are great songs on the album....and all you find on you tube for them are cruddy fan vids or live footage of them (and let's be honest, the Stones post 1969 are not a very good live band).

At least for Tattoo You decent songs got the vids (I will not mention the disaster that was Emotional Rescue

bombay
07-23-2008, 01:30 AM
Just because this is a music thread..

Went down to Fiddler's Green tonight to see the kool concert. Ordinarily would avoid this sort of thing like the plague, but I was interested in seeing both Jack Bruce and Eric Burden. They played along with Badfinger, Melanie, and The Turtles. We missed Badfinger, arriving in time to see Melanie, unfortunately. After 20 minutes of annoying off key shrieking, she went away. Flo and Eddie (The Turtles), appeared to be half toasted, and were pretty effective comedically, and did what they do - vocals - reasonably well. They were funny. Jack Bruce did a half hour pure Cream set, and sounded damned good. His guitarist was excellent, and his voice is still very strong. Excellent show. He introduced the band, but I was unable to understand the names through the Fiddler's sound system. Eric Burden's voice is still remarkably powerful, and he truly put on an excellent 40 minute or so show. I was afraid we had wasted our time coming early on, but both Bruce and Burden were excellent. Good night of music.

bombay
07-23-2008, 01:39 AM
Still Queen, still stunned Freddie Mercury is a better friend to me than some I've known since Broncomania was still Broncomania, and never mind he's been dead since I was in HS.

Also: Buy, borrow or steal a copy of Neck and Neck. If you like Country: Chet Atkins. If you like Rock: Mark Knopfler. If you like jazz: Both.


Knopfler pretty much borrowed Chet Atkins style lick for lick.

Hogan11
07-23-2008, 01:43 AM
Just because this is a music thread..

Went down to Fiddler's Green tonight to see the kool concert. Ordinarily would avoid this sort of thing like the plague, but I was interested in seeing both Jack Bruce and Eric Burden. They played along with Badfinger, Melanie, and The Turtles. We missed Badfinger, arriving in time to see Melanie, unfortunately. After 20 minutes of annoying off key shrieking, she went away. Flo and Eddie (The Turtles), appeared to be half toasted, and were pretty effective comedically, and did what they do - vocals - reasonably well. They were funny. Jack Bruce did a half hour pure Cream set, and sounded damned good. His guitarist was excellent, and his voice is still very strong. Excellent show. He introduced the band, but I was unable to understand the names through the Fiddler's sound system. Eric Burden's voice is still remarkably powerful, and he truly put on an excellent 40 minute or so show. I was afraid we had wasted our time coming early on, but both Bruce and Burden were excellent. Good night of music.

That sounds like a cool show. I'm always afraid of going to revue shows of 50's and 60's artists because I don't want to see a cabaret, Vegas-like performance (like The Monkees reunion tours) instead of seeing an actual band play. Glad to hear you lucked out.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-23-2008, 04:30 AM
It's too bad too , because there are great songs on the album....and all you find on you tube for them are cruddy fan vids or live footage of them (and let's be honest, the Stones post 1969 are not a very good live band).

At least for Tattoo You decent songs got the vids (I will not mention the disaster that was Emotional Rescue

Yep - the Stones' prime happened before the video age, I guess.

Re: the "not a very good live band" observation - that's putting it politely. ;)

I always thought the Stones (like Led Zeppelin) made great-sounding records but sounded like a garage band live most of the time.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-23-2008, 04:31 AM
Some serious (and very original-sounding) Strat abuse:

http://gallery.me.com/suhrguitars#100836

Hogan11
07-23-2008, 06:12 AM
Yep - the Stones' prime happened before the video age, I guess.

Re: the "not a very good live band" observation - that's putting it politely. ;)
.

Well, I think Get Your Ya Ya's Out is a pretty strong live album, but it's a fluke since the ones that have come before it or since have all been embarassments (save for maybe Love You Live, but that's a huge maybe). It just always appeared to me like the live thing was something that the band did because it had to rather than wanting to like most bands do...hence the lifeless, rote performances on those albums.

Studiowise, I still think Tattoo You was the last true great one....everything since has been spotty. If I had to choose, I'd take Keith's solo album Main Offender over anything the Stones have put out in the last 27 years that wasn't a compilation.

Hogan11
07-23-2008, 07:18 AM
The Doors The End from Toronto TV 1967....best footage I've seen yet of the early Doors. Check out Kreiger's fingernails, that'd drive me nuts (I'd use a pick anyday)...love Densmore's playing on this as well.
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-23-2008, 09:32 AM
Well, I think Get Your Ya Ya's Out is a pretty strong live album, but it's a fluke since the ones that have come before it or since have all been embarassments (save for maybe Love You Live, but that's a huge maybe). It just always appeared to me like the live thing was something that the band did because it had to rather than wanting to like most bands do...hence the lifeless, rote performances on those albums.

+1 on "Get Your Ya Yas Out" - don't know why I forgot about that one.

When I was 14, I was in a band that played high school dances and socials, and "Live With Me" and "Midnight Rambler" (the GYYYO versions) were part of our set list.

Studiowise, I still think Tattoo You was the last true great one....everything since has been spotty. If I had to choose, I'd take Keith's solo album Main Offender over anything the Stones have put out in the last 27 years that wasn't a compilation.

That's a coincidence - I just downloaded "Tattoo You" today.

Great record.

It's amazing how almost all of the songs on that record are outtakes from previous recording sessions.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-23-2008, 09:34 AM
Check out Kreiger's fingernails, that'd drive me nuts (I'd use a pick anyday)...

I use both pick and fingernails (although I keep the nails relatively short.)

It allows you to play a lot of things you can't play with just a pick.

alkemical
07-23-2008, 09:39 AM
I'm an INXS fan....

Earendil
07-23-2008, 10:09 AM
Knopfler pretty much borrowed Chet Atkins style lick for lick.
I don't know I'd go that far, but there's definitely some influence, and I'm sure that only increased when they started playing together regularly. I don't have much trouble telling which is which though, and enjoy both. ;)

bombay
07-23-2008, 12:27 PM
That sounds like a cool show. I'm always afraid of going to revue shows of 50's and 60's artists because I don't want to see a cabaret, Vegas-like performance (like The Monkees reunion tours) instead of seeing an actual band play. Glad to hear you lucked out.

Thanks. That's what it felt like - we were lucky to see a couple good performances.

bombay
07-23-2008, 12:28 PM
I don't know I'd go that far, but there's definitely some influence, and I'm sure that only increased when they started playing together regularly. I don't have much trouble telling which is which though, and enjoy both. ;)


Yeah. That's more accurate.

Hogan11
07-24-2008, 12:51 AM
+1 on "Get Your Ya Yas Out" - don't know why I forgot about that one.

When I was 14, I was in a band that played high school dances and socials, and "Live With Me" and "Midnight Rambler" (the GYYYO versions) were part of our set list.



That's a coincidence - I just downloaded "Tattoo You" today.

Great record.

It's amazing how almost all of the songs on that record are outtakes from previous recording sessions.

Tattoo You was a collection of outtakes? I've never heard that before....makes sense though as it has been well documented that tensions within the band were escalating at that time.

Seriously, the only other decent live Stones material I've heard other than Ya Ya's was the stuff on the Rock 'N' Roll Circus soundtrack and a song here and there on Love You Live. Every damn one of the live albums other than Ya - Ya's sounds and feels like going thru the motions ripoff....pretty cheesy for the supposedly greatest rock 'n' roll band of all time if you ask me.

Hogan11
07-24-2008, 12:52 AM
I use both pick and fingernails (although I keep the nails relatively short.)

It allows you to play a lot of things you can't play with just a pick.

Long fingernails drive me nuts...when I saw his, it creeped me out.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 01:52 AM
Long fingernails drive me nuts...when I saw his, it creeped me out.

Yeah, that wouldn't work for me.

Most guitarists who use hybrid picking (pick and fingers) keep the nails fairly short, but there are exceptions.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 02:01 AM
Tattoo You was a collection of outtakes? I've never heard that before....makes sense though as it has been well documented that tensions within the band were escalating at that time.

This article provides a pretty good breakdown of which songs came from which sessions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoo_You

Seriously, the only other decent live Stones material I've heard other than Ya Ya's was the stuff on the Rock 'N' Roll Circus soundtrack and a song here and there on Love You Live. Every damn one of the live albums other than Ya - Ya's sounds and feels like going thru the motions ripoff....pretty cheesy for the supposedly greatest rock 'n' roll band of all time if you ask me.

More like "world's greatest garage band" when they play live.

(And I'm a fan.) ;)

Hogan11
07-24-2008, 02:38 AM
This article provides a pretty good breakdown of which songs came from which sessions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoo_You

More like "world's greatest garage band" when they play live.

(And I'm a fan.) ;)

Very interesting wiki article, thanks for that. I never knew the background on the album, just kinda took it as an article of faith that it was new (recent) material...my image of them being recharged as they were for Some Girls is now totally blown....assembling outtakes as a "new" album rather than an outtake collection smacks of laziness, no matter how successful it was. I'm also surprised that "Tops" and especially "Waiting On A Friend" date from Goats Head Soup...that was a terrible album, those tracks would've been two of the best on it if they'd been included IMO.

"world's greatest garage band"? I dunno about that....I know a few I'd take over them live...quite a few actually. Garage bands are usually raw and have abundant energy in a live setting, it's been many a moon since the Stones were either live.

Hogan11
07-24-2008, 07:07 AM
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Rohirrim
07-24-2008, 11:07 AM
+1 on "Get Your Ya Yas Out" - don't know why I forgot about that one.

When I was 14, I was in a band that played high school dances and socials, and "Live With Me" and "Midnight Rambler" (the GYYYO versions) were part of our set list.



That's a coincidence - I just downloaded "Tattoo You" today.

Great record.

It's amazing how almost all of the songs on that record are outtakes from previous recording sessions.

I don't want to sound like a snotty name dropper but I was at the concert at the Forum in L.A. where some of "Ya Yas" was recorded. :pimp:

Hogan11
07-24-2008, 11:34 AM
I don't want to sound like a snotty name dropper but I was at the concert at the Forum in L.A. where some of "Ya Yas" was recorded. :pimp:

You lucky, lucky Man.....the envy grows.

Rohirrim
07-24-2008, 12:46 PM
You lucky, lucky Man.....the envy grows.

One of the most memorable concerts I ever went to. BB King and the Ike and Tina Turner Review opened (which was great in itself). Then there was some kind of equipment malfunction that went on for an hour or more. The place started getting a little out of control. Finally, the Stones come on stage with the signature couple of guitar thumps in the dark by Keith. Then Mick takes the mike and says, "It took so long to get out here so we're going to stay a while." When we came out of the Forum, the sun was breaking on the horizon. They were playing old stuff too, from the first couple of albums. Stuff I've never heard them do before or since. I'm a Stones freak. If they came to the states, I saw them. But if they come again I'll pass. That last tour they were phoning it in. They were great back in the day though. Definitely the best shows I've ever seen (except maybe for The Who at the Long Beach Auditorium). Definitely up in the top two.

Actually, a couple of buddies of mine followed that tour up to Altamont Speedway. Glad I passed on that one. ;D

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 07:11 PM
I don't want to sound like a snotty name dropper but I was at the concert at the Forum in L.A. where some of "Ya Yas" was recorded. :pimp:

Awesome! :notworthy

Glad you passed on Altamont, BTW.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 07:22 PM
Very interesting wiki article, thanks for that. I never knew the background on the album, just kinda took it as an article of faith that it was new (recent) material...my image of them being recharged as they were for Some Girls is now totally blown....assembling outtakes as a "new" album rather than an outtake collection smacks of laziness, no matter how successful it was. I'm also surprised that "Tops" and especially "Waiting On A Friend" date from Goats Head Soup...that was a terrible album, those tracks would've been two of the best on it if they'd been included IMO.

"Goats Head Soup" was rather inconsistent, but it did produce a pretty strong single in "Angie." One of my favorite Stones tunes of all time (esoteric, I know) is "Comin' Down Again" - which is also on that record. I enjoyed "Heartbreaker" too.

Wasn't GHS the last record Mick Taylor played on?

"world's greatest garage band"? I dunno about that....I know a few I'd take over them live...quite a few actually. Garage bands are usually raw and have abundant energy in a live setting, it's been many a moon since the Stones were either live.

Can't argue with you on the energy point. When I said "garage band" I was thinking about how sloppy the Stones' live shows could be. That sort of thing always bothered me about Led Zeppelin's live show too (especially when the monkey on Page's back turned into an 800 lb. gorilla.) I loved both bands' records, though.

Hogan11
07-24-2008, 08:08 PM
"Goats Head Soup" was rather inconsistent, but it did produce a pretty strong single in "Angie." One of my favorite Stones tunes of all time (esoteric, I know) is "Comin' Down Again" - which is also on that record. I enjoyed "Heartbreaker" too.

Wasn't GHS the last record Mick Taylor played on?

I thought the whole thing was rather sloppy, to be honest. Yeah "Angie" and "Heartbreaker" were the standouts, but compared to the usual standard they had at the time, I thought they were well below that. I'm embarrassed to say that I honestly can't remember "Comin' Down Again" at the moment...the only other songs on it that I recall were "Dancing With Mr. D" which blew and "Star Star" an obnoxious Chuck Berry ripoff.

I believe Mick Taylor's last Stones album was It's Only Rock 'N' Roll...a much improved affair, but like Black And Blue after it, rather bland save for the excursions into reggae that later turned into the disco of "Miss You" & "Emotional Rescue"...Yeech.


Can't argue with you on the energy point. When I said "garage band" I was thinking about how sloppy the Stones' live shows could be. That sort of thing always bothered me about Led Zeppelin's live show too (especially when the monkey on Page's back turned into an 800 lb. gorilla.) I loved both bands' records, though.

Sloppy can be one or two things IMO...engagingly reckless abandon or just plain careless. I honestly think the Stones stopped caring about the live performance in the mid- 1970's. They've been rote jobs ever since.

Hogan11
07-24-2008, 08:11 PM
One of the most memorable concerts I ever went to. BB King and the Ike and Tina Turner Review opened (which was great in itself). Then there was some kind of equipment malfunction that went on for an hour or more. The place started getting a little out of control. Finally, the Stones come on stage with the signature couple of guitar thumps in the dark by Keith. Then Mick takes the mike and says, "It took so long to get out here so we're going to stay a while." When we came out of the Forum, the sun was breaking on the horizon. They were playing old stuff too, from the first couple of albums. Stuff I've never heard them do before or since. I'm a Stones freak. If they came to the states, I saw them. But if they come again I'll pass. That last tour they were phoning it in. They were great back in the day though. Definitely the best shows I've ever seen (except maybe for The Who at the Long Beach Auditorium). Definitely up in the top two.

Actually, a couple of buddies of mine followed that tour up to Altamont Speedway. Glad I passed on that one. ;D

Wow, whadda great bill....it makes me want to dust off and throw Ya Ya's in the player tonight. It's been awhile.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 08:50 PM
Holy crap!

This guy is not a mortal man:

http://gallery.me.com/suhrguitars#100839

Username: scott
Password: bigdog

My jaw is on the floor!

Rohirrim
07-24-2008, 08:59 PM
Holy crap!

This guy is not a mortal man:

http://gallery.me.com/suhrguitars#100839

Username: scott
Password: bigdog

My jaw is on the floor!

Come on. He's got it on echo. ;)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 09:04 PM
I thought the whole thing was rather sloppy, to be honest. Yeah "Angie" and "Heartbreaker" were the standouts, but compared to the usual standard they had at the time, I thought they were well below that. I'm embarrassed to say that I honestly can't remember "Comin' Down Again" at the moment...the only other songs on it that I recall were "Dancing With Mr. D" which blew and "Star Star" an obnoxious Chuck Berry ripoff.

I liked "Dancing with Mr. D."

I was 15 when GHS came out, and there was a furniture store right down the street from my house called "Mr. D's Furniture." "Dancing with Mr. D" was getting a fair amount of play on the local progressive FM station, and all the neighborhood "heads" would smile at each other and wink when they drove by that store.

Berry was a huge influence on Keef, that's for sure.


I believe Mick Taylor's last Stones album was It's Only Rock 'N' Roll...a much improved affair, but like Black And Blue after it, rather bland save for the excursions into reggae that later turned into the disco of "Miss You" & "Emotional Rescue"...Yeech.


That's right - Goat's Head was '73 and Only R&R was '74 - I always get the years mixed up.

I really dug Mick Taylor's solos on "Time Waits for No One." Nice laid-back, smoky kinda vibe.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Come on. He's got it on echo. ;)

Yes, he's using tap delay on the intro, but how about the rest of the tune?

Rohirrim
07-24-2008, 09:18 PM
I thought the whole thing was rather sloppy, to be honest. Yeah "Angie" and "Heartbreaker" were the standouts, but compared to the usual standard they had at the time, I thought they were well below that. I'm embarrassed to say that I honestly can't remember "Comin' Down Again" at the moment...the only other songs on it that I recall were "Dancing With Mr. D" which blew and "Star Star" an obnoxious Chuck Berry ripoff.

I believe Mick Taylor's last Stones album was It's Only Rock 'N' Roll...a much improved affair, but like Black And Blue after it, rather bland save for the excursions into reggae that later turned into the disco of "Miss You" & "Emotional Rescue"...Yeech.





Sloppy can be one or two things IMO...engagingly reckless abandon or just plain careless. I honestly think the Stones stopped caring about the live performance in the mid- 1970's. They've been rote jobs ever since.

I thought the Mick Taylor Stones were the best incarnation. I was a big Mick Taylor fan from his time with John Mayall (Crusade is still my favorite Mayall album) and was ecstatic when he joined the Stones. I just preferred the Stones with the heavier blues sound. That's their back-bone sound, IMO. Jones was excellent for his time (with the harpsichords, mandolins and psychedelic touches), but that time had passed (it's mostly Taylor on Let it Bleed, the Stones' best album). For me, Ron Wood was always too twangy and loose (and too much of a "light touch") for the Stones. Great for the Faces (and Gasoline Alley) and their kind of "banging around" loose sound, but I've never been fond of his additions to the Stones.

Rohirrim
07-24-2008, 09:28 PM
Yes, he's using tap delay on the intro, but how about the rest of the tune?

He sounds like one of those Nashville studio flatpickers that you never hear about but who are on about a hundred incredible country tracks.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Don't let the delay thing fool you into thinking Scott can't play...

Scott Henderson Steve Bailey & Greg Bissonette - Fusion Jam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY4TVWXrOhI

Joe Zawinul - live at Munich-with Scott Henderson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkP99Euf_CU

Scott Henderson with Chick Corea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiF4DOTg_Vg

Triba Tech - "Jakarta"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOeKWvQ6Qsc

Scott Henderson - Dolemite (Live In Salerno)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVhN_LuNaVs

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 09:33 PM
He sounds like one of those Nashville studio flatpickers that you never hear about but who are on about a hundred incredible country tracks.

I'm sure Scott would take that as a major compliment as he's actually a jazz/blues/rock player who was just dabbling in country guitar on that particular track.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 09:39 PM
I thought the Mick Taylor Stones were the best incarnation. I was a big Mick Taylor fan from his time with John Mayall (Crusade is still my favorite Mayall album) and was ecstatic when he joined the Stones. I just preferred the Stones with the heavier blues sound. That's their back-bone sound, IMO. Jones was excellent for his time (with the harpsichords, mandolins and psychedelic touches), but that time had passed (it's mostly Taylor on Let it Bleed, the Stones' best album). For me, Ron Wood was always too twangy and loose (and too much of a "light touch") for the Stones. Great for the Faces (and Gasoline Alley) and their kind of "banging around" loose sound, but I've never been fond of his additions to the Stones.

I remember when Taylor left and the Stones were searching for a replacement.

They considered my man Steve Marriott for about a minute and a half.

In retrospect, I can see it wouldn't have worked (Jagger would have been living in a state of perpetual professional jealousy) but I still wish I could have heard Marriott with the Stones at least once. :~ohyah!:

Hogan11
07-25-2008, 02:23 AM
I thought the Mick Taylor Stones were the best incarnation. I was a big Mick Taylor fan from his time with John Mayall (Crusade is still my favorite Mayall album) and was ecstatic when he joined the Stones. I just preferred the Stones with the heavier blues sound. That's their back-bone sound, IMO. Jones was excellent for his time (with the harpsichords, mandolins and psychedelic touches), but that time had passed (it's mostly Taylor on Let it Bleed, the Stones' best album). For me, Ron Wood was always too twangy and loose (and too much of a "light touch") for the Stones. Great for the Faces (and Gasoline Alley) and their kind of "banging around" loose sound, but I've never been fond of his additions to the Stones.

Hard to argue with any of this as I agree with the notion of Taylor era Stones being the artistic highpoint....it was dwindling down by the time he left however.

The only thing I'd dispute here is Let It Bleed being the Stones best album.....as great as Bleed is, that distinction, IMHO, belongs to Beggars Banquet.

Hogan11
07-25-2008, 02:25 AM
I remember when Taylor left and the Stones were searching for a replacement.

They considered my man Steve Marriott for about a minute and a half.

In retrospect, I can see it wouldn't have worked (Jagger would have been living in a state of perpetual professional jealousy) but I still wish I could have heard Marriott with the Stones at least once. :~ohyah!:

Interesting....I always liked Marriott, but thought he blew his voice out with Humble Pie.

Hogan11
07-25-2008, 11:10 AM
No Lou Reed fans in here? ??? Coney Island Baby was about the last thing he did before his voice went.

bombay
07-25-2008, 01:22 PM
I remember when Taylor left and the Stones were searching for a replacement.

They considered my man Steve Marriott for about a minute and a half.

In retrospect, I can see it wouldn't have worked (Jagger would have been living in a state of perpetual professional jealousy) but I still wish I could have heard Marriott with the Stones at least once. :~ohyah!:

I never heard about Marriot being considered as a replacement for Taylor. That would have changed the Stones, and that's probably why it didn't happen. He and Frampton fought a kind of Lennon/McCartney battle for the direction of Humble Pie, and while I loved that band, it made them sort of schizophrenic.

bombay
07-25-2008, 01:33 PM
Hard to argue with any of this as I agree with the notion of Taylor era Stones being the artistic highpoint....it was dwindling down by the time he left however.

The only thing I'd dispute here is Let It Bleed being the Stones best album.....as great as Bleed is, that distinction, IMHO, belongs to Beggars Banquet.

Make mine Sticky Fingers.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-25-2008, 07:12 PM
I never heard about Marriot being considered as a replacement for Taylor. That would have changed the Stones, and that's probably why it didn't happen.

I remember it quite well.

Also, if you check out the video "The Life and Times of Steve Marriott," there's an interview with Rick Nielson of Cheap Trick toward the end of the film where he talks about hanging out with Marriott when Steve was in L.A. for the Stones audition.

Yes, Marriott would have definitely shaken the Stones up in a big way (especially if they had let him sing - he would have blown Jagger off the stage.)


He and Frampton fought a kind of Lennon/McCartney battle for the direction of Humble Pie, and while I loved that band, it made them sort of schizophrenic.

Yes, Humble Pie started out as a democracy, but there was eventually a tug of war between Frampton and Marriott, which Marriott ultimately won (ironic since it was Frampton who started the group and subsequently invited Marriott to join.)

I thought Pie was at its best when Frampton was still in the group.

Although I enjoyed the later records with Clem on guitar, I thought "Rockin' the Fillmore" represented the peak of HP's artistic prowess - due in large part to PF's inimitable guitar work.

bombay
07-25-2008, 08:33 PM
I remember it quite well.

Also, if you check out the video "The Life and Times of Steve Marriott," there's an interview with Rick Nielson of Cheap Trick toward the end of the film where he talks about hanging out with Marriott when Steve was in L.A. for the Stones audition.

Yes, Marriott would have definitely shaken the Stones up in a big way (especially if they had let him sing - he would have blown Jagger off the stage.)


Yes, Humble Pie started out as a democracy, but there was eventually a tug of war between Frampton and Marriott, which Marriott ultimately won (ironic since it was Frampton who started the group and subsequently invited Marriott to join.)

I thought Pie was at its best when Frampton was still in the group.

Although I enjoyed the later records with Clem on guitar, I thought "Rockin' the Fillmore" represented the peak of HP's artistic prowess - due in large part to PF's inimitable guitar work.


I appreciate that kind of rock history - thanks. The Stones with Marriott would have been a truly dynamic band. I would like to have seen that.

I went to school in Champaign, Il in the early '70's and saw a lot of Cheap Trick in a local bar called the Red Lion. It must have been '72 or '73 when they played there a lot. I think they were based in Wisconsin then, maybe Alpine Valley. At that time they were starving artists - Zander had really bad teeth and couldn't yet afford to fix them. A couple other bands that got pretty well known were also Red Lion regulars: REO Speedwagon, who was basically the house band until local pizza magnate Irv Azoff took them, and I think Dan Fogelberg, to LA. Head East was another one.


Regarding Frampton in Humble Pie, I'm in full agreement that they were better with him. Not only was Frampton a great guitarist, he kind of kept Marriott's baser instincts at bay.

BroncoBuff
07-26-2008, 03:39 PM
I remember when Taylor left and the Stones were searching for a replacement.

They considered my man Steve Marriott for about a minute and a half.

In retrospect, I can see it wouldn't have worked (Jagger would have been living in a state of perpetual professional jealousy) but I still wish I could have heard Marriott with the Stones at least once. :~ohyah!:
Your other man Peter Frampton was supposedly on the short list too I thought ???

My favorite = Exile on Main Street by a nose over Let it Bleed. To be fair though I never really soaked up Beggars Banquet.


From another thread - Chris Cornell covers Michael Jackson (unplugged). Funny though, I don't hear that screeching fingers on a chalkboard vocal style Hoghan complains about ... sounds more like a less-spastic Joe Cocker to me:

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BroncoBuff
07-26-2008, 03:43 PM
LABF is a Fightin' Illini?

bombay
07-26-2008, 05:16 PM
LABF is a Fightin' Illini?

Sorry, that was me. I screwed up the quote function but just went back and fixed it.

Hogan11
07-27-2008, 12:07 AM
My favorite = Exile on Main Street by a nose over Let it Bleed. To be fair though I never really soaked up Beggars Banquet.

Exile had a bit too much filler on it for my liking...don't get me wrong when I say that, overall I really enjoy the album but they really struggled to maintain a high quality over a double album set IMHO.

When it comes to the Stones, my faves are:
Beggars Banquet
Get Your Ya Ya's Out
Let It Bleed
Some Girls
Tattoo You
Exile On Main Street
Their Satanic Majesties Request
and then I rely on the Greatest Hits type compilations for the rest.

From another thread - Chris Cornell covers Michael Jackson (unplugged). Funny though, I don't hear that screeching fingers on a chalkboard vocal style Hoghan complains about ... sounds more like a less-spastic Joe Cocker to me

So he doesn't do it here as much as he did in Soundgarden or Temple Of The Dog (especially Temple Of The Dog) He's an irritating vocalist any way you slice it....he pretty much defines the term histrionic

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-27-2008, 04:29 AM
Can't really pick a single Stones favorite - too many records spanning too many years.

Finally had to make my own iTunes compilation. ;)

BroncoBuff
07-27-2008, 04:36 AM
So he doesn't do it here as much as he did in Soundgarden or Temple Of The Dog (especially Temple Of The Dog) He's an irritating vocalist any way you slice it....he pretty much defines the term histrionic
Wow, really? You thought he was histrionic in that one? Well I guess we have to agree ... I'd call him soulful and powerful.

Rohirrim
07-27-2008, 01:29 PM
Can't really pick a single Stones favorite - too many records spanning too many years.

Finally had to make my own iTunes compilation. ;)

Good point. I don't pay much attention to past compilations anymore, now that I can make my own. My latest is so eclectic as to be bizarre. It includes the theme from Das Boot, Sarabande from Barry Lyndon, some Eric Clapton, Parachute Woman by the Stones, some Pat Metheny, Leo Kottke, The Band, Barber's Adagio for Strings, Traveling Wilburys, Leonard Cohen, Nora Jones, LOTR soundtrack stuff and David Bowie. Nobody would buy my albums, except me. Ha!

My Stones list would be:
Bleed
YaYas
Banquet
Aftermath
and then some individual songs from the rest. I always really liked the Stones version of Silver Train.

Maybe I'll put that on my next compilation. :wiggle:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-27-2008, 07:24 PM
Good point. I don't pay much attention to past compilations anymore, now that I can make my own. My latest is so eclectic as to be bizarre. It includes the theme from Das Boot, Sarabande from Barry Lyndon, some Eric Clapton, Parachute Woman by the Stones, some Pat Metheny, Leo Kottke, The Band, Barber's Adagio for Strings, Traveling Wilburys, Leonard Cohen, Nora Jones, LOTR soundtrack stuff and David Bowie. Nobody would buy my albums, except me. Ha!

My Stones list would be:
Bleed
YaYas
Banquet
Aftermath
and then some individual songs from the rest. I always really liked the Stones version of Silver Train.

Maybe I'll put that on my next compilation. :wiggle:

Sounds about my speed.

iTunes makes it too easy these days.

I finally decided to just create two Stones compilations - one with all of my favorite tracks from the 60s and another with faves from the 70s-early 80s.

:thumbsup:

Hogan11
07-27-2008, 08:44 PM
I still make compilation tapes the old fashioned way and still make them on cassettes. I try to justify it by saying the tape is 90 mins. whilst the cd is only 80...10 minutes more of music. Hey, the car is old, the deck is old...there's no need to upgrade it at this time, so....

Besides, doing it that way is more fun for me.

I also like making some pretty jarring and outlandish mixes on those....if I can get a puzzled look on the face of those riding with me, then I consider the mix tape successful Ha!

BroncoInferno
07-28-2008, 09:06 AM
I still make compilation tapes the old fashioned way and still make them on cassettes. I try to justify it by saying the tape is 90 mins. whilst the cd is only 80...10 minutes more of music. Hey, the car is old, the deck is old...there's no need to upgrade it at this time, so....

Besides, doing it that way is more fun for me.

I also like making some pretty jarring and outlandish mixes on those....if I can get a puzzled look on the face of those riding with me, then I consider the mix tape successful Ha!

Another thing about mixed tapes is that if you make a theme-based tape for another individual, they are much more likely to listen to all the songs since it's more difficult to skip around.

Hogan11
07-28-2008, 08:18 PM
Another thing about mixed tapes is that if you make a theme-based tape for another individual, they are much more likely to listen to all the songs since it's more difficult to skip around.

Absolutely....and I still think they're easier to handle in a car as well.

What got me to work today? This did:
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epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2008, 10:01 PM
So he doesn't do it here as much as he did in Soundgarden or Temple Of The Dog (especially Temple Of The Dog) He's an irritating vocalist any way you slice it....he pretty much defines the term histrionic

Cornell is great for the genre. His vocal and Thayil's odd guitar tone/work made a nice combination.

Your irritation does not a bad vocal make. Thousands would disagree. Some would probably call him the best metal vocalist of his era.

Superunknown is an excellent album.

epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2008, 10:02 PM
Absolutely....and I still think they're easier to handle in a car as well.

What got me to work today? This did:



Sorry man, but that sounds like the same britpop droll that has seeped out of every dive in London since 1972.

epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2008, 10:08 PM
Knopfler pretty much borrowed Chet Atkins style lick for lick.

Knopfler owes alot to Atkins, but Atkins is a world beyond Mark.

Hogan11
07-28-2008, 10:12 PM
Cornell is great for the genre. His vocal and Thayil's odd guitar tone/work made a nice combination.

Your irritation does not a bad vocal make. Thousands would disagree. Some would probably call him the best metal vocalist of his era.

Superunknown is an excellent album.

Well, you know what they say about the lowest common denominator....

Hogan11
07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
Sorry man, but that sounds like the same britpop droll that has seeped out of every dive in London since 1972.

Which is still heads and shoulders above most of what else is out there.

If you're not familiar with Teenage Fanclub, it's your loss. Very underrated, they evolved into a great power pop unit and one of the best bands of the 90's
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epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Which is still heads and shoulders above most of what else is out there.

If you're not familiar with Teenage Fanclub, it's your loss. Very underrated, they evolved into a great power pop unit and one of the best bands of the 90's
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Sure...I know Teenage Fanclub...as much as I could take. The only stuff I could get into was the EP they did with Frank Black.

I was introduced to them in 1995 I believe, and was exposed enough to take the disc to CD Tradeworld fairly quickly.

Hogan11
07-28-2008, 10:36 PM
Sure...I know Teenage Fanclub...as much as I could take. The only stuff I could get into was the EP they did with Frank Black.

I was introduced to them in 1995 I believe, and was exposed enough to take the disc to CD Tradeworld fairly quickly.

Sounds about what I did with Black's post Pixies work.

epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2008, 11:09 PM
Sounds about what I did with Black's post Pixies work.

Touche.

Its definitely not The Pixies.

Much more skill on display in Frank Black. He actually has a couple of guys who can play on those records.

Its more Beefheart than Black Francis.

There's some great stuff on early Frank Black records, though. Stuff that never existed before he put it on record. Trademark stuff. The kind of music that you would expect to have heard in some acid head's collection circa 1970.

Equally as original as The Pixies. More subtly influential. Less attractive to the anxious. In the vein of XTC...not Nirvana.

Hogan11
07-29-2008, 12:14 AM
Touche.

Its definitely not The Pixies.

Much more skill on display in Frank Black. He actually has a couple of guys who can play on those records.

Its more Beefheart than Black Francis.

There's some great stuff on early Frank Black records, though. Stuff that never existed before he put it on record. Trademark stuff. The kind of music that you would expect to have heard in some acid head's collection circa 1970.

Equally as original as The Pixies. More subtly influential. Less attractive to the anxious. In the vein of XTC...not Nirvana.

Didn't think much of anything post-Pixies that came across my desk...and I was jazzed early on because he was working with ex Pere Ubu members, alas nothing much impressed me, not even "Headache", which now, I can barely remember. Last thing to come my way was Fast Man Raider Man, again, I was unimpressed.

Like Bob Mould's, Black's solo career has largely lost my interest these days..you can only be disappointed so many times and although I regret not seeing the Pixies reunion shows, they didn't really come around my area anyways, so there ya go.

Los Broncos
07-29-2008, 12:19 AM
Control Denied

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-29-2008, 09:32 AM
http://bluepower.com/media/guitarcarl.mov

epicSocialism4tw
07-29-2008, 11:39 AM
Didn't think much of anything post-Pixies that came across my desk...and I was jazzed early on because he was working with ex Pere Ubu members, alas nothing much impressed me, not even "Headache", which now, I can barely remember. Last thing to come my way was Fast Man Raider Man, again, I was unimpressed.

Like Bob Mould's, Black's solo career has largely lost my interest these days..you can only be disappointed so many times and although I regret not seeing the Pixies reunion shows, they didn't really come around my area anyways, so there ya go.

I wasnt a big fan of his singles save Los Angeles which is a unique witty piece with an odd time sig and loud guitars.

I think that his best stuff is heard in the ones that were too far removed from Pixies for those fans to even hear the songs out. Songs like "Two Spaces", "Abstract Plain", "Every Time I Go 'Round Here", "Superabound", "The Marsist", "Parry the Wind High Low", "The Creature Crawling", "Big Red" etc.

His recent albums have lost the witty charm and quirky chord progressions that his earlier stuff had in bunches.

TailgateNut
07-29-2008, 11:47 AM
Ultimate Zydeco.


Where's my "hurricane"?:~ohyah!:

Hogan11
07-29-2008, 12:00 PM
Ultimate Zydeco.


Where's my "hurricane"?:~ohyah!:

Is there any Beau Jocque on that? My all time fave Zydeco artist, I loved that guy's stuff, I have all the original releases. I had a chance to see him once at the Mid City Lanes and passed on it....he was gone two years later :(

Hogan11
07-29-2008, 12:05 PM
I wasnt a big fan of his singles save Los Angeles which is a unique witty piece with an odd time sig and loud guitars.

I think that his best stuff is heard in the ones that were too far removed from Pixies for those fans to even hear the songs out. Songs like "Two Spaces", "Abstract Plain", "Every Time I Go 'Round Here", "Superabound", "The Marsist", "Parry the Wind High Low", "The Creature Crawling", "Big Red" etc.

His recent albums have lost the witty charm and quirky chord progressions that his earlier stuff had in bunches.

Nah, it never caught on with me...I compared him to Bob Mould in that his solo stuff I also had high hopes for and (save for Sugar's Copper Blue) most of what I heard underwhelmed me. Expectations could've been too high, but that would've worn off over time I think.

TailgateNut
07-29-2008, 01:06 PM
Is there any Beau Jocque on that? My all time fave Zydeco artist, I loved that guy's stuff, I have all the original releases. I had a chance to see him once at the Mid City Lanes and passed on it....he was gone two years later :(


"Pine point trail ride" and "No Good woman" by Beau Jocque and a few good ones by Rockin Dopsie Jr and the Zydeco twisters who where the band at a private party I attended while in Nawlins last week.

BroncoInferno
07-29-2008, 01:26 PM
Sorry man, but that sounds like the same britpop droll that has seeped out of every dive in London since 1972.

Not every band has to reinvent the wheel. Certainly, Teenage Fanclub cribbed liberally from Big Star, Badfinger etc., but hell, who cares....it just sounds great (this is basically my opinion of the first two Oasis albums as well).

BroncoInferno
07-29-2008, 02:06 PM
Guided By Voices

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epicSocialism4tw
07-29-2008, 02:32 PM
Not every band has to reinvent the wheel. Certainly, Teenage Fanclub cribbed liberally from Big Star, Badfinger etc., but hell, who cares....it just sounds great (this is basically my opinion of the first two Oasis albums as well).


Not every band has to reinvent the wheel, but IMO its more interesting to appreciate the designs of a mercedes as opposed to those of a little red wagon.

Its quite a better ride as well.

I have never enjoyed Oasis either.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-29-2008, 08:14 PM
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Hogan11
07-29-2008, 11:22 PM
Stand Up is a much better representation of Jethro Tull IMHO
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That bass line was one of the very first things I learned how to play when I was starting out....the album is still my overall fave in the Tull catalog to this day.

bombay
07-29-2008, 11:57 PM
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I like this one from the Rolling Stones Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. Ian Anderson appears to be somewhat deranged:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIyvb2gtOSA

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 12:11 AM
Stand Up is a much better representation of Jethro Tull IMHO


That record is one of my favorites too, but I think Tull is much too multi-faceted to be represented by any one particular album.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 12:44 AM
That record is one of my favorites too, but I think Tull is much too multi-faceted to be represented by any one particular album.

Oh, I don't know...I thought that summed up all the band's strengths quite nicely in a package that was solid from top to bottom. I know it's not as popular as Aqualung or as career definitive as Living In The Past, but I still consider it the apex of early Tull.
Another fave from that record ;D
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 02:00 AM
Oh, I don't know...I thought that summed up all the band's strengths quite nicely in a package that was solid from top to bottom. I know it's not as popular as Aqualung or as career definitive as Living In The Past, but I still consider it the apex of early Tull.


The record was a pretty good snapshot of Tull at that particular moment, but the band continued to evolve and change over time.

"Stand Up" was particularly impressive when you consider that the band had just switched guitarists.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 05:26 AM
The record was a pretty good snapshot of Tull at that particular moment, but the band continued to evolve and change over time.

"Stand Up" was particularly impressive when you consider that the band had just switched guitarists.

The apex of early Tull, yes ;) The band always had a somewhat revolving door of musicians around Anderson...the most interesting to me is noted in bombay's quote:
I like this one from the Rolling Stones Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. Ian Anderson appears to be somewhat deranged
The guitarist is none other than Tony Iommi on his way towards Black Sabbath
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Hogan11
07-30-2008, 05:33 AM
Speaking of The Rock And Roll Circus, everyone generally acknowledges The Who stole the show, so why not?
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Moonie at his best

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 07:05 AM
Speaking of The Rock And Roll Circus, everyone generally acknowledges The Who stole the show, so why not?


I've never been much of a Who fan.

When I was in my teens, just about everyone my age was infatuated with Led Zeppelin, and The Who was sort of like your older brother's band. The consensus among my peers at that time was that there was nothing The Who could do that Led Zeppelin couldn't do a hundred times better, so who needs 'em?

Also, the smashing of the instruments thing is such a huge turn-off for me that I just can't get past it - no matter what they play. It's just so boorish and low-rent, IMO.

OK - you can flame me now. ;D

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 07:10 AM
The guitarist is none other than Tony Iommi on his way towards Black Sabbath


I'm so glad Martin got the gig instead (although he was so nervous he almost blew it.)

Iommi is about as mind-numbingly monotonous and one-dimensional as rock guitarists get, IMO.

Not good if you want to play with Ian Anderson.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 07:30 AM
I've never been much of a Who fan.

When I was in my teens, just about everyone my age was infatuated with Led Zeppelin, and The Who was sort of like your older brother's band. The consensus among my peers at that time was that there was nothing The Who could do that Led Zeppelin couldn't do a hundred times better, so who needs 'em?

Also, the smashing of the instruments thing is such a huge turn-off for me that I just can't get past it - no matter what they play. It's just so boorish and low-rent, IMO.

OK - you can flame me now. ;D

Well, I'll take The Who over Zep anyday...but I've been Zepped to death over the years and never really thought they were all that anyways, so that's not surprising. The only thing about The Who's legend that I dispute is that the rock operas IMHO, really didn't work. I never thought Tommy was all that successful an album (convoluted story, didn't really flow well and had bad production) That clip of "A Quick One" is one of the rare times when something like that worked...the studio version sure didn't.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 07:31 AM
I'm so glad Martin got the gig instead (although he was so nervous he almost blew it.)

Iommi is about as mind-numbingly monotonous and one-dimensional as rock guitarists get, IMO.

Not good if you want to play with Ian Anderson.

Maybe that's why he only lasted a week Ha!

Rohirrim
07-30-2008, 08:42 AM
I've never been much of a Who fan.

When I was in my teens, just about everyone my age was infatuated with Led Zeppelin, and The Who was sort of like your older brother's band. The consensus among my peers at that time was that there was nothing The Who could do that Led Zeppelin couldn't do a hundred times better, so who needs 'em?

Also, the smashing of the instruments thing is such a huge turn-off for me that I just can't get past it - no matter what they play. It's just so boorish and low-rent, IMO.

OK - you can flame me now. ;D

Oh yeah? Well who the **** are you? :welcome:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 09:06 AM
Oh yeah? Well who the **** are you? :welcome:

I dunno, but a policeman knew my name... ;)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 09:17 AM
Well, I'll take The Who over Zep anyday...but I've been Zepped to death over the years and never really thought they were all that anyways, so that's not surprising.

Plant > Daltrey
Page > Townshend
Jones > Entwistle
Bonham > Moon

JMO.



The only thing about The Who's legend that I dispute is that the rock operas IMHO, really didn't work. I never thought Tommy was all that successful an album (convoluted story, didn't really flow well and had bad production) That clip of "A Quick One" is one of the rare times when something like that worked...the studio version sure didn't.

I thought the film itself was cool (sort of) but the music was lame.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 09:45 AM
Plant > Daltrey
Page > Townshend
Jones > Entwistle
Bonham > Moon

JMO.

I disagree on all counts...to put it as mildly as I possibly can.



I thought the film itself was cool (sort of) but the music was lame.

Oh you've got to be kidding me...That thing was close to being unwatchable IMO (save for the Moon appearances and Ann-Margret rolling around in beans). I'll take Quadrophenia over it (both film and album) anyday and twice on Sundays.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 09:46 AM
I dunno, but a policeman knew my name... ;)

Didja wake up in a SoHo doorway? Ha!

BroncoInferno
07-30-2008, 10:15 AM
Frankly, I always thought Jethro Tull sucked balls. That damn flute always gave me the image of hippies frolicking in a meadow. And those mystical lyrics...ugh. Not my cup of tea at all.

On the Who vs. Zepp debate...I enjoy both, but I've gotta go with the Who as the better band. Pages' playing got too repetitive at times, Plants' voice could become a tad annoying over the course of an entire album, and the lyrics were a bit uninteresting when written by Page and too damned mystical when penned by Plant.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 10:25 AM
Oh you've got to be kidding me...That thing was close to being unwatchable IMO (save for the Moon appearances and Ann-Margret rolling around in beans). I'll take Quadrophenia over it (both film and album) anyday and twice on Sundays.

That's why I said "sort of."

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 10:25 AM
....and the lyrics were a bit uninteresting when written by Page and too damned mystical when penned by Plant.

Page wrote lyrics?

cutthemdown
07-30-2008, 10:26 AM
Jethro Tull was different though didn't sound like the other bands. The Who were a little more versatile then Led Zep was. Led Zep was more the hard blues band with soaring lyrics. Still though both bands had great drummers who died and famous lead guitar players so they have some stuff in common.

cutthemdown
07-30-2008, 10:27 AM
Frankly, I always thought Jethro Tull sucked balls. That damn flute always gave me the image of hippies frolicking in a meadow. And those mystical lyrics...ugh. Not my cup of tea at all.

On the Who vs. Zepp debate...I enjoy both, but I've gotta go with the Who as the better band. Pages' playing got too repetitive at times, Plants' voice could become a tad annoying over the course of an entire album, and the lyrics were a bit uninteresting when written by Page and too damned mystical when penned by Plant.

Ian Anderson is the name of that flute player I think. He's a good player but I have to agree that its pretty hard to work flute into a rock band. There is a reason the saxophone is the woodwind of choice when it comes to rock.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 10:30 AM
Frankly, I always thought Jethro Tull sucked balls....

I guess you had to be there. :sunshine:

I think ~98% of all popular music recorded since about 1980 sucks balls, so I guess it's all relative. ;)

BroncoInferno
07-30-2008, 10:34 AM
Page wrote lyrics?

Pretty sure he wrote the songs in full during the early days of the band, but I'm sure Hogan can confirm. There is certainly a variance in style lyrically between early Led Zep and later.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 10:48 AM
The Who were a little more versatile then Led Zep was.

Are you serious?

Led Zeppelin's music drew from a much broader range of styles than The Who's.


Led Zep was more the hard blues band with soaring lyrics.

LZ started out as a "hard blues" band, but they didn't stay that way for very long. Each successive album drew from a broader range of musical styles, e.g., acoustic fingerstyle ala Bert Jansch and Joni Mitchell, traditional Celtic folk, Indo-Carnatic melodies, Arabic modes, and more.

Not sure what "soaring lyrics" means.


Still though both bands had great drummers who died and famous lead guitar players so they have some stuff in common.

Is Townshend really famous for his lead work? Most of his fans would probably say he's more noted for his rhythm work.

Moon couldn't carry Bonzo's practice pads, IMO.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 10:54 AM
Pretty sure he wrote the songs in full during the early days of the band...

Um, no.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 10:58 AM
Ian Anderson is the name of that flute player I think. He's a good player but I have to agree that its pretty hard to work flute into a rock band.

For something that's supposed to be so hard, Tull was pretty successful doing it.

:D

Rohirrim
07-30-2008, 11:28 AM
Just put on Live at Leeds and crank it.

Argument over. ;D

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 11:32 AM
I'm not aware of Page actually writing very much lyrically, that's more of Plant's domain and the main reason for all the hippy dippy fantasy bullshat. Page is solely credited with a few songs here and there ("Dazed And Confused") but I believe his main input overall was song construction and not lyrics.

I'd agree with The Who being more versitle, but more than anything, The Who was much more creative....any doubts can be easily erased by looking at not only the bodies of work of each band, but also the individual members themselves, who all (save for Moon) had decent and quality solo careers outside of the band whereas only Plant has gone on to anything of note musically (The Firm was a disaster and I do not count producing as the same as actual music creation, so Jones does not count). Zep also never attempted anything as complex an idea as Tommy, Lifehouse or Quadrophenia...lofty concepts that sometimes escaped The Who themselves.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 11:35 AM
For something that's supposed to be so hard, Tull was pretty successful doing it.

:D

Well, if it was so easy, more bands would've done it. It is hard to intergrate instruments like that into the rock band form...even Tull itself was not wholly successful in doing so all of the time. Yeah, sometimes the flute grates and I do have to concede that a little Jethro Tull does go a very long way unless one is truly committed but IMHO, the early records (before the formula set in) are pretty rewarding listenings in small doses.

bombay
07-30-2008, 12:27 PM
Speaking of The Rock And Roll Circus, everyone generally acknowledges The Who stole the show, so why not?
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Moonie at his best


I thought that was a tremendous performance, too, and particularly Moon's contributions. The story has always been that Jagger didn't release the show because of the Who, but it was probably the Stone''s own lackluster that kept it out of circulation for so long.

I also agree with you on Stand Up. It's always been my favorite Tull recording.

BroncoInferno
07-30-2008, 12:47 PM
OK, Plant had one songwriting credit on LZ I, then become a regularly contributor on II. I had read somewhere the Page was reluctant early on to give Plant writing duties, but I thought it was about the third or fourth effort that he finally let him out of the box. In any case, I found the lyrics generally either uninteresting or too far out with the fantasy crap.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 12:52 PM
I thought that was a tremendous performance, too, and particularly Moon's contributions. The story has always been that Jagger didn't release the show because of the Who, but it was probably the Stone''s own lackluster that kept it out of circulation for so long.

I also agree with you on Stand Up. It's always been my favorite Tull recording.

I was very disappointed with The Stones performance in that....seeing them sing along to a freakin' backing track of "Salt Of The Earth" (one of my all time fave songs by them) was extremely offputting to say the least.

Hogan11
07-30-2008, 01:01 PM
OK, Plant had one songwriting credit on LZ I, then become a regularly contributor on II. I had read somewhere the Page was reluctant early on to give Plant writing duties, but I thought it was about the third or fourth effort that he finally let him out of the box. In any case, I found the lyrics generally either uninteresting or too far out with the fantasy crap.

You're far from the only one to hold that opinion.

We've been over and over the Zep thing several times on this board, it's as tiresome as the band itself is to me. Really, I've been subjected to the band so much over the course of my life that I honestly wouldn't care if I never heard any of it ever again.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 07:47 PM
I'm not aware of Page actually writing very much lyrically, that's more of Plant's domain and the main reason for all the hippy dippy fantasy bullshat. Page is solely credited with a few songs here and there ("Dazed And Confused") but I believe his main input overall was song construction and not lyrics.

I'm not aware that Page ever wrote lyrics (as Inferno claimed) - period.

Both the words (with some tweaks) and music to "Dazed and Confused" were pretty much stolen outright from some poor, unsigned blues singer named Jake Holmes.

As for the "hippy dippy" assessment - I guess that's just a personal taste thing again.

One man's "mystical bullsh*t" is another man's poetry.

I'd agree with The Who being more versitle, but more than anything, The Who was much more creative....any doubts can be easily erased by looking at not only the bodies of work of each band, but also the individual members themselves, who all (save for Moon) had decent and quality solo careers outside of the band whereas only Plant has gone on to anything of note musically (The Firm was a disaster and I do not count producing as the same as actual music creation, so Jones does not count). Zep also never attempted anything as complex an idea as Tommy, Lifehouse or Quadrophenia...lofty concepts that sometimes escaped The Who themselves.

I think I just made a pretty good case that LZ was more versatile a few posts ago - given the range of styles the band could play (and from which their music was drawn.)

As for Page, I think you can attribute his post-Zep disappearing act to drug addiction.

As for concept albums - they bore the crap out of me (personal tastes again.)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 07:50 PM
Just put on Live at Leeds and crank it.

Argument over. ;D

I didn't mind listening to that record.

DB-Freak
07-30-2008, 09:42 PM
LOL...

What are your thoughts on the band YES LABF?

BroncoBuff
07-30-2008, 10:47 PM
LOL...

What are your thoughts on the band YES LABF?
Yes probably does have better PURE musicians than either The Who or Zeppelin, but as far as saying The Who is more "versatile" than Zeppelin? Man ... where to start on the transparent falsity of that assertion?

You might like the Who more than Zeppelin, which is fine. But "versatility" is not an issue open to any real discussion. Led Zeppelin had more stylistic range than any band except the Beatles ... in fact, their versatility was perhaps their second most amazing feature (next to their groundbreaking originality, also something The Who cannot match).

Zep could do sugary love songs (Thank You, All My Love), folk-rock beauties (Going to California, That's the Way), towering blues-rock milestones that will never be eclipsed (Since I've been Loving You, The Lemon Song), ground-breaking metal numbers so unique they were weird at first, but are classics now (Dazed and Confused, Whole Lotta Love), classic album anthems (Stairway, Rain Song), and uterly unusual, moody blusters (No Quarter). Now THAT'S versatility. They even pulled off what I like to call the first real headbanger-headbanger number, Four Sticks, and a Top 40 Rockabilly number, Hot Dog. And these weren't just "stabs" at different genres ... these were hammer and tong mastery of the styles, with their own inimitable uniqueness laid over. No pretenders were they, not by a long shot: 'That's the Way' is a genuine and pure folk-rock classic ... 'Since I've Been Loving You' is a genuine and pure blues-rock classic ... and on and on.


The Who's versatility, while mildly impressive, shouldn't really be compared to Led Zeppelin, it's just not fair. The Beatles maybe, but that's it. Zeppelin was the most musically versatile band of the rock era.
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BroncoBuff
07-30-2008, 10:58 PM
We've been over and over the Zep thing several times on this board, it's as tiresome as the band itself is to me. Really, I've been subjected to the band so much over the course of my life that I honestly wouldn't care if I never heard any of it ever again.
That's the biggest problem with this discussion ... you DISLIKE Zeppelin with a near-passion. Which is FINE. But it clouds your judgment when evaluating things like versatility and uniqueness. Your opinions are so intetrtwined with your dislike of Zeppelin as to render them invalid on their face.

As far as musicianship ... Page over Townsend, seriously? That is completely not worthy of an argument, Page in a walk.

Robert Plant was FAR more unique, groundbreaking and influential that Roger Daltry, but I suppose if you like Daltry more that's okay. Personally, I don't think it's even close. Example: I spent years not knowing that Pete Townsend sang lead on "Going Mobile," and I'm pretty darned observant of instruments and singers and arrangements ... so if the guitar player's lead singing can be easily confused with the lead freaking singer, then what is Daltry really? The blonde frontman.

Bass and drums is tougher to rank. I gotta say John Entwistle is better that JPJ to be honest. Jones is an amazing bass player, but Entwistle is unthinkably good.

Drums, kinda tough to call, both were unique and much-imitated. Next time "Who Are You?" comes on when you can really listen, focus on Moon ... it's un-freaking-real. But Moon's appeal had much to do with his personality, and other drummers could do what he did. John Bonham though, was a force of nature that cannot be underestimated as an influence on not just drums, but on rock and metal music itself. Edge to Bonham.

;D

BroncoBuff
07-30-2008, 11:51 PM
Just put on Live at Leeds and crank it.

Argument over. ;D
The Who did put on amazing, even unparalleled live shows ... Daltry swinging the mic, Pete twirling the arm, John with his "beverage" decanter, and Moon the lunatic were impressive as hell and unforgettable showmen ... even before they destroyed their equipment (which they might've been the first to do). I always thought being "the loudest" band was kinda gay, but for live spectacle, The Who is hard hard to beat.

But overall ... The Who is CLEARLY number four among English bands ... the other three are on a level The Who simply cannot match. The Who is on the next level with Sabbath and Yes (if there even are "levels" ;))

BroncoBuff
07-30-2008, 11:55 PM
Page vs. Townsend ... that's an even more preposterous argument than the versatility question. I can't think of a single guitar solo of note by Townsend. There is no doubt Pete Townsend is a musical genius or near there (he's a gay pedophile too, but that's different story), but to compare him to Jimmy Page as guitar players is silly.
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Hogan11
07-31-2008, 12:03 AM
That's the biggest problem with this discussion ... you DISLIKE Zeppelin with a near-passion. Which is FINE. But it clouds your judgment when evaluating things like versatility and uniqueness. Your opinions are so intetrtwined with your dislike of Zeppelin as to render them invalid on their face.

That's the biggest problem with this discussion ... you LIKE Zeppelin with a near-passion. Which is FINE. But it clouds your judgment when evaluating things like versatility and uniqueness. Your opinions are so intetrtwined with your love of Zeppelin as to render them invalid on their face.

DB-Freak
07-31-2008, 12:13 AM
I'm a not big fan of Plant's voice and actually like Dalt's voice, but...

the variety songs that Zep put out are far more "encompassing and varied" than the WHO's.

BroncoBuff
07-31-2008, 12:19 AM
That's the biggest problem with this discussion ... you LIKE Zeppelin with a near-passion. Which is FINE. But it clouds your judgment when evaluating things like versatility and uniqueness. Your opinions are so intetrtwined with your love of Zeppelin as to render them invalid on their face.
Say ... that's an impressive argument! :~ohyah!:
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Hogan11
07-31-2008, 12:28 AM
Say ... that's an impressive argument! :~ohyah!:
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Well really, Zep has been debated to death here several times over...why pick the scab off from that whole thing yet again? It's basically a stalemate, circular debate on all sides and ultimately, boring.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-31-2008, 12:51 AM
Yes probably does have better PURE musicians than either The Who or Zeppelin, but as far as saying The Who is more "versatile" than Zeppelin? Man ... where to start on the transparent falsity of that assertion?

You might like the Who more than Zeppelin, which is fine. But "versatility" is not an issue open to any real discussion. Led Zeppelin had more stylistic range than any band except the Beatles ... in fact, their versatility was perhaps their second most amazing feature (next to their groundbreaking originality, also something The Who cannot match).

Zep could do sugary love songs (Thank You, All My Love), folk-rock beauties (Going to California, That's the Way), towering blues-rock milestones that will never be eclipsed (Since I've been Loving You, The Lemon Song), ground-breaking metal numbers so unique they were weird at first, but are classics now (Dazed and Confused, Whole Lotta Love), classic album anthems (Stairway, Rain Song), and uterly unusual, moody blusters (No Quarter). Now THAT'S versatility. They even pulled off what I like to call the first real headbanger-headbanger number, Four Sticks, and a Top 40 Rockabilly number, Hot Dog. And these weren't just "stabs" at different genres ... these were hammer and tong mastery of the styles, with their own inimitable uniqueness laid over. No pretenders were they, not by a long shot: 'That's the Way' is a genuine and pure folk-rock classic ... 'Since I've Been Loving You' is a genuine and pure blues-rock classic ... and on and on.


The Who's versatility, while mildly impressive, shouldn't really be compared to Led Zeppelin, it's just not fair. The Beatles maybe, but that's it. Zeppelin was the most musically versatile band of the rock era.
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Very well argued, and I quite agree. :thumbsup:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-31-2008, 12:59 AM
LOL...

What are your thoughts on the band YES LABF?

I have the utmost respect for the musicans in YES - they are all accomplished players - but I never really dug their style of music. I'm not a huge fan of prog rock that's classically-influenced - I'm more of a jazz and blues-based guy.

My favorite prog band was Jethro Tull because I loved their fusion of blues, jazz, rock, and ethnic (e.g., Scottish) folk music.

DB-Freak
07-31-2008, 01:33 AM
OF COURSE
So you ride yourselves over the fields and
you make all your animal deals and
your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.

It's toe-tappingly prog.

I'm not a big Tull fan, but that song is just amazing.

BroncoBuff
07-31-2008, 01:50 AM
Well really, Zep has been debated to death here several times over...why pick the scab off from that whole thing yet again? It's basically a stalemate, circular debate on all sides and ultimately, boring.
You can like whomever you wish ... I am totally cool with subjective taste for music and artists. And as far as singers - they are really a personal thing, a subjective decision which one you like more (unless you're talking about range or pipes, but those things don't make the singer).

An artist's versatility is a different question though, not really a "stalemate." That question can be answered largely objectively. Their songs can be evaluated for the varieties of genre and sub-genre, and for how authentically the artist expresses that genre. Zeppelin clearly tackled more styles than The Who, and tackled them with authenticity and flair.

And guitar players - they are yet another question. Some comparisons are close enough to flip a coin ... but some comparisons are nothing more than simple math problems, 2 + 2 = 4. And Pete Townsend vs. Jimmy Page is a simple math problem. The answer is there, and not subject to "opinions." You can like Townsend more than Page, but you cannot simply "will him" to be as good a guitar player.
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TDmvp
07-31-2008, 05:04 AM
I am a long hair and have sang in bands for 15 years ... and my fav band is Pink Floyd , I like alot of metal and rock , grunge cause of when i grew up ...

I say all this then ask am i a poser for wishing this Billy Ocean video was Hi Qual .. LOL ... I love alot of the stuff from the 80s tho ... The Outfield and stuff like that ... sigh i guess i am a poser :O(


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watched the whole show and boy the old man can still sing like a bird ... and watching him get down cracks me up ... somebody is having a good time in Amsterdam

Hogan11
07-31-2008, 06:49 AM
I am a long hair and have sang in bands for 15 years ... and my fav band is Pink Floyd , I like alot of metal and rock , grunge cause of when i grew up ...

I say all this then ask am i a poser for wishing this Billy Ocean video was Hi Qual .. LOL ... I love alot of the stuff from the 80s tho ... The Outfield and stuff like that ... sigh i guess i am a poser :O(


Not at all. There's nothing in the world wrong with guilty pleasures. I'm into a lot of different stuff and one of my passions is for 60's & 70's bubblegum pop music. My friends are not surprised when one of those songs pops up smack in the middle of a mix I made, but it has been a bit jarring for those who don't often ride with me. Talking about The Who earlier, I followed up "Bargain" with this once and then put the Mahavisnu Orchestra on the other side of it.
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I don't care what anyone says, it's a great fun pop song.

BroncoBuff
07-31-2008, 11:07 AM
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"Going Mobile" ... one of my The Who favorites (but it's funny, Daltry must've had a cold, cause he sounds a bit different than usual ;))

The amazing part of this song is that it's a simple three-piece band, Pete on acoustic, until the bridge synth comes in ("out in the woods, or in the city"), then the wah-wah lead later. But other than these two overdubs, it's just a 3-piece. And according to Pete and the producers in that great VH-1 series "Classic Albums," it was recorded live in the studio: Moon, Entwistle and Pete on acoustic ... AND, Pete did the lead vocal at the same time! They played the lead vocal track alone, and you can hear the guitar some thru the mic!

That is very impressive, Pete is very very talented.
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Hogan11
08-01-2008, 04:42 AM
One of my all time favorite videos and songs....from one of my all time fave albums.
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TDmvp
08-01-2008, 05:00 AM
yea Hogan , REM is another one i take hell from my friends for ... I can't help they have poor taste , cause i love me some REM heheh .. i must have bought automatic for the people 3 times ...

Rohirrim
08-01-2008, 03:02 PM
The Who did put on amazing, even unparalleled live shows ... Daltry swinging the mic, Pete twirling the arm, John with his "beverage" decanter, and Moon the lunatic were impressive as hell and unforgettable showmen ... even before they destroyed their equipment (which they might've been the first to do). I always thought being "the loudest" band was kinda gay, but for live spectacle, The Who is hard hard to beat.

But overall ... The Who is CLEARLY number four among English bands ... the other three are on a level The Who simply cannot match. The Who is on the next level with Sabbath and Yes (if there even are "levels" ;))

The Who on the same level as Yes and Sabbath? Don't make me gag. I realize you are a Zep Gopi, but please, your argument is breaking up on reentry. As far as comparing Townsend and Page, I'd use the argument of recognizable licks. I hypothesize that if you got together fifty music fans and played them licks from those two (admittedly excellent) guitarists, the fans would recognize far more of Pete's than they would Jimmy's. The Who made iconic music. Think of how many of Pete's compositions became rock anthems. We Don't Get Fooled Again? Tommy? Pin Ball Wizard? My Generation? Blue Eyes? Who Are You? Baba? etc. etc. etc. About the only iconic piece of music Zep ever came up with was Stairway..., and they stole that from Randy California. ;D