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Dr. Broncenstein
04-06-2011, 03:28 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1184186/1/index.htm

BroncoLifer
04-06-2011, 03:50 PM
That's an amazing read. RIP Darrent.

DomCasual
04-06-2011, 04:02 PM
Wow. What a sad, terrible night.

schaaf
04-06-2011, 04:30 PM
I still remember my mom yelling downstairs and telling me what happened, RIP Darrent you will always be a fan favorite

phibacka31
04-06-2011, 04:36 PM
That was a very very good read!
Such a sad sad story...

OBF1
04-06-2011, 04:43 PM
Now we know the rest of the story... Kind of makes me sick to my stomach.

Chris
04-06-2011, 04:43 PM
Hard to read.

http://image1.findagrave.com/photos/2008/71/17236618_120536061328.gif

Tombstone RJ
04-06-2011, 04:52 PM
long read, but very worth it.

OBF1
04-06-2011, 04:57 PM
I forgot to add.... another reason to hate everything Brandon Marshall

FantomForce
04-06-2011, 05:02 PM
I couldn't tear myself away, well written, shines a whole new light

ton80
04-06-2011, 06:04 PM
Darrent partied in the same location as gang bangers and got shot. He'd be alive today partied in a location where there were not gang bangers. In part, its his own stupid-a$$ fault. Now get over it and move on. Boo freakin hoo.

schaaf
04-06-2011, 06:11 PM
Darrent partied in the same location as gang bangers and got shot. He'd be alive today partied in a location where there were not gang bangers. In part, its his own stupid-a$$ fault. Now get over it and move on. Boo freakin hoo.

Go **** yourself.

Missouribronc
04-06-2011, 06:18 PM
Darrent partied in the same location as gang bangers and got shot. He'd be alive today partied in a location where there were not gang bangers. In part, its his own stupid-a$$ fault. Now get over it and move on. Boo freakin hoo.

While you've pointed out one very simple fact, you've definitely missed the point of the entire article.

The author wasn't simply trying to say he partied with gang-bangers and now he's dead. He showing the stark contrast between the success that Brandon Marshall has had and his role in this tragedy and the Javon Walker's lack of success since the tragedy and his lack of a role in it.

There's that stark contrast that paints this picture of who these people really are, and what we can learn about them. Certainly there's the difference between Javon's upbringing in rural Louisiana and his mother's trials and tribulations being on her own versus the family/gang atmosphere that Darrent Williams (and though its not stated) Brandon Marshall grew up in, and how this affected them after the tragedy.

Marshall could move on, despite what he says. He'd seen it before. Walker could not. He ended up trusting someone he shouldn't, a victim of a robbery and a beating in Las Vegas, because he was too trusting.

Its a tremendous article. An incredible comparison.

dsmoot
04-06-2011, 06:32 PM
When I raised my children, one of the most important things I tried to leave with them was - you are no better than the people you surround yourself with. It doesn't matter if they are friends or not. If you put yourself in places where people will go for a gun or go to violence to settle a dispute then YOU put yourself at risk and YOU are not completely innocent of the action of others. There are consequences for ALL our choices. This incident was not simply a matter of the wrong place at the wrong time. One can see why trouble follows Brandon Marshall.

Unfortunately, my family became very close to another family who lost their 20 year old son (similar age to my children at the time) in a murder situation that is unbelievably similar to the Darrent Williams story. Basically good young man, putting himself in a party situation with some very bad people who came after a friend of the young man and then was mistakenly murdered. This happened about 1 year after the DWill situation and the family still hasn't recovered.

I think Darrent was at heart a very fine person. His premature and unfortunate death turned him into the perception of an ALL-PRO cornerback by many. His second year in the league illustrated that he had short comings at cornerback and the league was starting to learn how to play him to their advantage. He certainly had become an improvement over some of those who were forced into play before him. An All Pro??? NO. The jury was still out in my opinion. He certainly was very likable as a player and by no means was a bad player.

This is a sad sad story that should and COULD have been avoided by all involved.

epicSocialism4tw
04-06-2011, 06:36 PM
Darrent partied in the same location as gang bangers and got shot. He'd be alive today partied in a location where there were not gang bangers. In part, its his own stupid-a$$ fault. Now get over it and move on. Boo freakin hoo.

Thanks for giving us all the jerk opinion.

Drunk Monkey
04-06-2011, 06:36 PM
good read. Thanks for sharing. I always thought D Will was a little over valued as the player he was at the time of his demise. Blame Manning for that. But I was really looking forward to who he would become. It's a sad situation all around. For those of you who will further demonize Marshall (I am no fan of his) he will live with this the rest of his life. He was probably to young to appreciate what happened but he has the rest of his life to think about it.

epicSocialism4tw
04-06-2011, 06:38 PM
That's an incredibly shallow culture.

Darrent was a budding star. He would likely still be occupying the spot opposite Champ today had he not been hit by the bullet of a pansy with a gun.

yerner
04-06-2011, 06:39 PM
That is a very good article. Thanks for posting.

gunns
04-06-2011, 07:01 PM
Darrent partied in the same location as gang bangers and got shot. He'd be alive today partied in a location where there were not gang bangers. In part, its his own stupid-a$$ fault. Now get over it and move on. Boo freakin hoo.

How wonderful to have the Mane blessed with a turd that knows it all and has all the answers....and completely missed the point of the article. Not surprising.

Such a sad story. Changed so many lives.

ohiobronco2
04-06-2011, 07:48 PM
Darrent partied in the same location as gang bangers and got shot. He'd be alive today partied in a location where there were not gang bangers. In part, its his own stupid-a$$ fault. Now get over it and move on. Boo freakin hoo.


You're a f***ing idiot. Go play in traffic.







Disclaimer: I don't wish for you to actually go play in traffic. I wouldn't want someone's car to be damaged.

BroncoMan4ever
04-06-2011, 09:09 PM
i know this is the wrong thing to say, but the next article regarding DWill I want to read is that the ****ing prick who killed him got raped anand then shanked.

extralife
04-06-2011, 09:16 PM
I find it interesting that this one tried to talk about Clark's motivations. I hope one day that idiot realizes he's never getting out of jail and talks about them himself. after a decade or so of contemplation, you never know.

this article is not judging Marshall, come on. it's showing the contrast between him and Walker, yeah, but the point is not that there is a right and a wrong, a good guy and a bad guy (oh omane: remember when Walker was universally the bad guy?). it's that there isn't. we know Marshall feels guilty. you'd have a hard time trying to convince anyone that pays attention that he's faking it.

Dr. Broncenstein
04-06-2011, 09:19 PM
In the end it's just another sad statistic brought to you by the society of fatherless children.

Boobs McGee
04-06-2011, 09:48 PM
Excellent read, horrible story, D-will you'll always be missed and remembered. RIP mang.

Boobs McGee
04-06-2011, 09:49 PM
Darrent partied in the same location as gang bangers and got shot. He'd be alive today partied in a location where there were not gang bangers. In part, its his own stupid-a$$ fault. Now get over it and move on. Boo freakin hoo.

oh and **** you.

That One Guy
04-06-2011, 09:56 PM
In the end it's just another sad statistic brought to you by the society of fatherless children.

While I wont even try to deny your position, it's also another statistic brought to you by fools with money, idiots with egos, etc.

They take these people from lives with nothing, cater to them from high school on, expect nothing of them but their perfection of a sport, impose no real responsibility on half of them, and expect them to be mature adults?

Lacking a father doesn't help, absolutely agreed, but the high school/college/influx of money scenario leaves them idolized and their every wish catered to and could surely corrupt even the most grounded.

Mediator12
04-06-2011, 10:03 PM
In the end it's just another sad statistic brought to you by the society of fatherless children.

Ding! Not a father in that article at all. Gangs and fathers do not mix very well. Fathers actually fight for their sons well being. Most of the men (91%) and women (85%) in prisons had no actual or a terrible father figure in their lives.

Young men with all kinds of skill and life get washed away daily simply because no one shows them what being a man really means in this crazy world. And, they drag a lot of people down with them, including women.

They think money changes things, it only makes them a target, even from their own "friends". Four totally different boys making poor choices from the lack of knowing any better. Each one paid a price, a terrible price. I would never wish this on anyone. It is such an empty existence.

SouthStndJunkie
04-06-2011, 10:29 PM
I do get tired of people pointing blame on this to anyone but Willie Clark and his piece of **** friend.

Brandon Marshall nor his cousin are to blame, neither are the friends of Darrent Williams....they may not have helped the situation....but the only blame goes to the piece of **** who pulled the trigger.

bpc
04-07-2011, 12:07 AM
On the surface level, that whole night caused a curse on this franchise which has not yet been removed. The loss, the death, and the adjoining issues that came from it... terrible.

BroncoDoug
04-07-2011, 12:15 AM
While you've pointed out one very simple fact, you've definitely missed the point of the entire article.

The author wasn't simply trying to say he partied with gang-bangers and now he's dead. He showing the stark contrast between the success that Brandon Marshall has had and his role in this tragedy and the Javon Walker's lack of success since the tragedy and his lack of a role in it.

There's that stark contrast that paints this picture of who these people really are, and what we can learn about them. Certainly there's the difference between Javon's upbringing in rural Louisiana and his mother's trials and tribulations being on her own versus the family/gang atmosphere that Darrent Williams (and though its not stated) Brandon Marshall grew up in, and how this affected them after the tragedy.

Marshall could move on, despite what he says. He'd seen it before. Walker could not. He ended up trusting someone he shouldn't, a victim of a robbery and a beating in Las Vegas, because he was too trusting.

Its a tremendous article. An incredible comparison.

Tremendous is an understatement, reading this brings tears to my eyes again. I was about a block away from where all this happened that night, and remember driving past the white Hummer limo the next morning with the police tape surrounding it. It sinks my heart everytime this story is relived.

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cutthemdown
04-07-2011, 01:18 AM
On the surface level, that whole night caused a curse on this franchise which has not yet been removed. The loss, the death, and the adjoining issues that came from it... terrible.

Yeah that is what i was thinking. Rip team apart type stuff in this article. Also it shows that gang members go sort of under the radar until they kill someone important. Why not disable the tre tre crips way before this? Also here near me one city had a notorious gang for yrs. They brazenly murdered a cop serving a warrant. 2 yrs later a huge federal task force sweeps them all up. But hell they were a known thing for yrs and yrs and yrs. I will never understand why they don't just go engage this thugs before its too late.

cutthemdown
04-07-2011, 01:21 AM
Well the part where Brandon was lying to the police about who was with him shows a bit of a character problem. Even with friend dead he was not giving all the information to the cops. Is it just me or is that weird unless you were more worried about being blamed for it then you where about police having all the information. Leaving out a witness could miss something big.

BroncoMan4ever
04-07-2011, 02:02 AM
While you've pointed out one very simple fact, you've definitely missed the point of the entire article.

The author wasn't simply trying to say he partied with gang-bangers and now he's dead. He showing the stark contrast between the success that Brandon Marshall has had and his role in this tragedy and the Javon Walker's lack of success since the tragedy and his lack of a role in it.

There's that stark contrast that paints this picture of who these people really are, and what we can learn about them. Certainly there's the difference between Javon's upbringing in rural Louisiana and his mother's trials and tribulations being on her own versus the family/gang atmosphere that Darrent Williams (and though its not stated) Brandon Marshall grew up in, and how this affected them after the tragedy.

Marshall could move on, despite what he says. He'd seen it before. Walker could not. He ended up trusting someone he shouldn't, a victim of a robbery and a beating in Las Vegas, because he was too trusting.

Its a tremendous article. An incredible comparison.

it's wrong to compare how each Walker and Marshall handled the situation, because both of their parts in the situation were different. It was easier for Marshall because he wasn't present when DWill died. he was there at the club and may have been involved in the altercation that set forth the shooting. Javon was in the limo with DWill when the shooting happened, he held him while he died, had his friends blood on his hands. Two very different situations. you can't say simply that since Marshall grew up in that gang life atmosphere that he was able to move on from it because he had seen it before, you can say he was able to move on easier because he wasn't there when his friend died. Javon was, and I don't care who you are or where you grew up, holding a friend while he dies is going to mess you up bad.

looking back all us Broncos fans were pretty ****ed up towards Walker when he didn't want to play in Denver anymore. couldn't have been easy for the guy having to be reminded of his friend everywhere he went in Denver.

Dr. Broncenstein
04-07-2011, 04:46 AM
Ding! Not a father in that article at all. Gangs and fathers do not mix very well. Fathers actually fight for their sons well being. Most of the men (91%) and women (85%) in prisons had no actual or a terrible father figure in their lives.

Young men with all kinds of skill and life get washed away daily simply because no one shows them what being a man really means in this crazy world. And, they drag a lot of people down with them, including women.

They think money changes things, it only makes them a target, even from their own "friends". Four totally different boys making poor choices from the lack of knowing any better. Each one paid a price, a terrible price. I would never wish this on anyone. It is such an empty existence.


This really is the source of all societal ills. You show me a piece of shiat human, and I'll show you someone who grew up without a responsible father. There isn't a gang member on the planet who violates this rule.

Missouribronc
04-07-2011, 05:45 AM
it's wrong to compare how each Walker and Marshall handled the situation, because both of their parts in the situation were different. It was easier for Marshall because he wasn't present when DWill died. he was there at the club and may have been involved in the altercation that set forth the shooting. Javon was in the limo with DWill when the shooting happened, he held him while he died, had his friends blood on his hands. Two very different situations. you can't say simply that since Marshall grew up in that gang life atmosphere that he was able to move on from it because he had seen it before, you can say he was able to move on easier because he wasn't there when his friend died. Javon was, and I don't care who you are or where you grew up, holding a friend while he dies is going to mess you up bad.

looking back all us Broncos fans were pretty ****ed up towards Walker when he didn't want to play in Denver anymore. couldn't have been easy for the guy having to be reminded of his friend everywhere he went in Denver.

I just missed that part of it too. It all plays together, how Walker was the one who was there, Walker was the one who didn't fight outside the club and Walker is the one who's ended up down and out. Marshall was involved in the altercation, Marshall was able to leave in a different vehicle and Marshall has gone on to success. I think you and I agree, but I also think their different childhoods come into play there too. I think that was what the author was trying to convey.

Requiem
04-07-2011, 06:25 AM
Heard it on the radio when I was helping my mom move to her place in Minnesota. Started crying at Target. Full on cry. Tears.

jhns
04-07-2011, 08:13 AM
I do get tired of people pointing blame on this to anyone but Willie Clark and his piece of **** friend.

Brandon Marshall nor his cousin are to blame, neither are the friends of Darrent Williams....they may not have helped the situation....but the only blame goes to the piece of **** who pulled the trigger.

Great post. No one can be blamed for this other than the pussy with the gun.

Such a sad story.

Cool Breeze
04-07-2011, 11:25 AM
Darrent partied in the same location as gang bangers and got shot. He'd be alive today partied in a location where there were not gang bangers. In part, its his own stupid-a$$ fault. Now get over it and move on. Boo freakin hoo.

This from someone who clearly didn't even read the story...

Ignorance

You should be judged so shallowly

broncocalijohn
04-07-2011, 11:51 AM
I forgot to add.... another reason to hate everything Brandon Marshall

You mean this tidbit...

The trial judge found this a likely explanation, and so did Marshall when he talked to the police. While educated guesses can be made about how this knowledge affected Marshall (an ESPN report showed he had some 12 encounters with police in the 27 months after the shooting, most of them domestic disturbances), it didn't stop him from becoming a superstar. Darrent Williams's friends believed Williams was destined for the Pro Bowl. Brandon Marshall went instead, and last year he signed a five-year deal with the Dolphins worth more than $47 million.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1184186/8/index.htm#ixzz1IrfMZtS4


Makes it sound like this is the reason BM is an asshat. I guess they didnt know about the past before he was a Bronco. Nice to know BM has an ahole in his cousin too.

crowebomber
04-07-2011, 12:10 PM
I do get tired of people pointing blame on this to anyone but Willie Clark and his piece of **** friend.

Brandon Marshall nor his cousin are to blame, neither are the friends of Darrent Williams....they may not have helped the situation....but the only blame goes to the piece of **** who pulled the trigger.

Exactly. Almost everyone has been in a disagreement in a bar or acted a little stupid while drinking or partying. It doesn't mean someone deserves to be shot.

24champ
04-07-2011, 12:45 PM
I'd say this closes the book on what happened that night.

Sad story. RIP Dwill.