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txtebow
03-31-2011, 04:39 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14879833/moon-angry-over-perceived-racial-bias-toward-newton



"A lot of the criticism hes receiving is unfortunate and racially based, Moon told Freeman. I thought we were all past this. I dont see other quarterbacks in the draft being criticized by the media or fans about their smile or called a phony. Hes being held to different standards from white quarterbacks. I thought we were past all this stuff about African-American quarterbacks, but I guess were not"

Enablers such a Footstepsfrom27 agree fully with this assertion no doubt....

Quoydogs
03-31-2011, 04:41 PM
Please.

schaaf
03-31-2011, 04:42 PM
hahahaha :)

Cool Breeze
03-31-2011, 04:45 PM
Heaven forbid they do so with a legitimate reason in mind.
Thats the ultimate cop out.

cmhargrove
03-31-2011, 04:46 PM
When did they let black people start playing in the NFL? Is this new?

oubronco
03-31-2011, 04:50 PM
Well shyt fire and save matches **** a duck and see what hatches

Mogulseeker
03-31-2011, 05:14 PM
Donovan McNabb is overrated.

Jetmeck
03-31-2011, 05:20 PM
Please...it is the same things they were bringing about Tebow last year minus the delivery BS...................

jhns
03-31-2011, 05:22 PM
Only racists hate on Tebow.

Houshyamama
03-31-2011, 05:33 PM
Warren Moon hates white people.

THE719!
03-31-2011, 05:33 PM
man how can we become a better country when race is still an issue.... shaking my head

TDmvp
03-31-2011, 05:37 PM
Warren Moon ... Used to think you was a ok guy now you are proven to be a typical moron.
Gratz and good luck with that.

vancejohnson82
03-31-2011, 05:38 PM
Warren Moon hates white people.

he should...he was kept out of the league for too long because he was black...

but this is ridiculous...people are trashing Cam Newton because he's a clown

Archer81
03-31-2011, 05:42 PM
he should...he was kept out of the league for too long because he was black...

but this is ridiculous...people are trashing Cam Newton because he's a clown


Not quite. He did not get into the NFL because he refused to play anything other than QB while coincidentally being black. Good career regardless.

:Broncos:

El Minion
03-31-2011, 06:14 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14879833/moon-angry-over-perceived-racial-bias-toward-newton



"A lot of the criticism hes receiving is unfortunate and racially based, Moon told Freeman. I thought we were all past this. I dont see other quarterbacks in the draft being criticized by the media or fans about their smile or called a phony. Hes being held to different standards from white quarterbacks. I thought we were past all this stuff about African-American quarterbacks, but I guess were not"

Enablers such a Footstepsfrom27 agree fully with this assertion no doubt....

Nolan Nawrocki of Pro Football Weekly. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/31/nolan-nawrocki-responds-to-warren-moons-claim-of-racial-bias/)

Nawrocki responded to Moons argument on Thursdays PFT Live.

I think its absurd, Nawrocki said. I mean, anybody that is familiar with the publication, you can go back and look at what was said about [Notre Dame quarterback] Jimmy Clausen. It was some of the same things. He came across as very scripted and disingenuous in interviews. . . . We treat every player the same. Were just trying to get to the end result. . . . Evaluate the character and get the evaluation right. I think the best evaluators in the NFL are colorblind in their assessments, and we treat it the same way. Were not trying to take shots at anybody. Its all about getting the evaluations right.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-31-2011, 06:25 PM
I totally agree some of this is racially influenced, if even on a subsconious level. no doubt

TDmvp
03-31-2011, 06:35 PM
I totally agree some of this is racially influenced, if even on a subsconious level. no doubt

O yea cause people just can't have a opinion on something without race being a part of it...

People need to get over race , they all suck equally.
Being adopted and knowing nothing about what race I am lets me hate them all equally as well :spit:...

But race is stupid , It's not like you pick it , and I find it hard to hate anyone for something that was just dumb luck , as in what race you was born.
It's would be like hating someone because they had blue eyes or brown hair.


We as a people should stop being proud of race and stop making opinions because of it. Be proud of a loved one , or a achievement and hate because of a action someone takes. But to do either because of something random that no one can control is just stupid.


Race is stupid ,overrated and unimportant.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-31-2011, 06:43 PM
O yea cause people just can't have a opinion on something without race being a part of it...

People need to get over race , they all suck equally.
Being adopted and knowing nothing about what race I am lets me hate them all equally as well :spit:...

But race is stupid , It's not like you pick it , and I find it hard to hate anyone for something that was just dumb luck , as in what race you was born.
It's would be like hating someone because they had blue eyes or brown hair.


We as a people should stop being proud of race and stop making opinions because of it. Be proud of a loved one , or a achievement and hate because of a action someone takes. But to do either because of something random that no one can control is just stupid.


Race is stupid ,overrated and unimportant.

I agree it SHOULDNT play a factor in any decision making or perception of another human being, but youre out of your mind if you think people don't skew view due to race. I have zero doubt we'd look at Newton differently if he were white.

Sir_Robin
03-31-2011, 06:44 PM
Warren Moon hates white people.

No ****! It's so bad he "can't even see other quarterbacks". Dude can only see black qb's, what a racist pig.

footstepsfrom#27
03-31-2011, 06:44 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14879833/moon-angry-over-perceived-racial-bias-toward-newton

"A lot of the criticism hes receiving is unfortunate and racially based, Moon told Freeman. I thought we were all past this. I dont see other quarterbacks in the draft being criticized by the media or fans about their smile or called a phony. Hes being held to different standards from white quarterbacks. I thought we were past all this stuff about African-American quarterbacks, but I guess were not"

Enablers such a Footstepsfrom27 agree fully with this assertion no doubt....
Racism as an embedded institutional problem in this country interests me at the highest level. Warren Moon's personal view of the Cam Newton thing is of little to no interest to me, and your transparent attempts to bait me are of even less interest.

Arkie
03-31-2011, 07:47 PM
Newton flashing his fake smile. Auburn was pleased with the results.

http://dailywd.womansday.com/.a/6a00d83452f37b69e20148c7830ec4970c-800wi

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
03-31-2011, 08:54 PM
Nevertheless, he's out to lunch on this one.

BroncoLifer
03-31-2011, 09:00 PM
This is absurd. People who criticize Cam Newton aren't racist. Racists are white people who criticize Obama.

JDB7821
03-31-2011, 09:06 PM
His smile, really? No one criticizes Cam Newton for anything other than the fact that you can't rely on pure athleticism in the NFL and the system he comes out of isn't conducive to being a success.

If Michael Vick can't rely on pure athleticism then no one can. Vick is finally on his way to becoming a real threat, but it took a lot of humility for it to happen. If Newton wants to be successful, he needs to have a good, long chat with Vick.

StugotsIII
03-31-2011, 09:17 PM
Vick, Russell, Akili Smith, Mcnabb would disagree.

peacepipe
03-31-2011, 10:25 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14879833/moon-angry-over-perceived-racial-bias-toward-newton



"A lot of the criticism hes receiving is unfortunate and racially based, Moon told Freeman. I thought we were all past this. I dont see other quarterbacks in the draft being criticized by the media or fans about their smile or called a phony. Hes being held to different standards from white quarterbacks. I thought we were past all this stuff about African-American quarterbacks, but I guess were not"

Enablers such a Footstepsfrom27 agree fully with this assertion no doubt....no matter,i'm considered anti-god cause I don't believe tebow can walk on water.

epicSocialism4tw
03-31-2011, 10:42 PM
Where was Moon, Footsteps, Jesse Jackson, or any of the other racemongers when people criticized Tebow?

The racemongers can shove it.

footstepsfrom#27
04-01-2011, 07:20 AM
Where was Moon, Footsteps, Jesse Jackson, or any of the other racemongers when people criticized Tebow?

The racemongers can shove it.
I don't recall race being a factor in Tebow's criticism, though i do recall passionately argung that he was one of the top ATHLETES at the combine as well as the guy we needed to draft about a year before almost anyone on this board said this (go look it up why don't you). I think criticism was centered on the system he played in followed by questions about arm strength, but don't let facts get in your way there pal. You and the OP...birds of a feather. The only difference is you clam Christianity and he doesn't, which oddly makes him a smaller hypocrit than you.

LRtagger
04-01-2011, 07:39 AM
Plenty of people claimed TT came across as fake. I'm sure a black guy or two was in that mix of criticism. Black people can't be racist, though so it's cool.

bendog
04-01-2011, 08:16 AM
Moon is not wrong about this, though:

Moon added: "The thing that makes me laugh is the question of can he [Newton] come out of the spread offense? Can he run a pro offense? Colt McCoy came out of the spread offense and very few people raised that issue about him. So did Sam Bradford. Same thing. Very few questions asking if Bradford could run a pro offense. Some of these questions about Cam are more about his intellect. It's blatant racism, some of it.

"When I played I fought some of this. Guys like myself and Randall Cunningham, we were playing for a bigger calling. We were playing for guys like Cam and others. It's disappointing to see some of this stuff still exists.

"There is no question," Moon added, "that African-American quarterbacks are in a better place. We've had black quarterbacks taken first overall recently like JaMarcus Russell ... Unfortunately, those players didn't have success.

"One of the things that's happening with Cam is that he's being lumped in with them. It's not fair. They're all different guys." Moon explained he doesn't think NFL teams are discriminating against Newton.

Moon is most troubled by the notion -- a notion that continues to grow -- that Newton is something he's not. To Moon, it's contrary to the Newton he knows.

"You can't be fake and win a national championship," Moon said. "The players will see through it. He's won at every level. He took that Auburn team to the national title and that team wasn't as talented as some other teams in the SEC.

"Just turn on the film and watch what he does on game day. Then if you have concerns just spend time with him. Go around the kid himself. Spend as much time as you need around him. You can only fake so much."

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Still, imo, Cam will eventually implode. Not with purple dank, but because at some point he'll cheat on taxes, or screw up in a biz deal, or something like that. And that has nothing to do with race.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-heisman121110

Cam Newton isnt getting a share of all those No. 2 jerseys that are being worn across the South. He didnt receive a $225,000 bonus for winning the SEC title, like his coach did. He wont get $500,000 more for the BCS title either.

He may have scored 10 touchdowns in his last two games, but he isnt getting a cut of the $19.99 commemorative DVDs of those games that the school is selling as stocking stuffers.

The No. 2 Heisman Hopeful shirts available on the Auburn website? Nope. The framed pictures of him that can cost up to $289? Of course not. Will the NCAA claim the right to forever sell his likeness in video games and car commercials? You bet it will.

Cecil Newton saw all of this. He saw his sons ability. He saw all the schools circling, saw the system dying to get a hold of a commodity that could help deliver games, glory and lots and lots of money. He saw the boosters and their desperation to win.

So he asked for some.

Tales of pay-for-play are as old as the game itself. If there had never been a buyer (the schools themselves), then there never wouldve been any sellers. Cecil Newton was just wading into the longstanding underground economy of college athletics.

The fact he asked for such an unusual amount $180,000 suggests he didnt invent the figure off the top of his head. He was working with a veteran recruiting middle man. They asked for that sum because they thought they could get it; perhaps because someone else offered $150,000. Which means some other coach/booster had told him his son was worth more than a scholarship.

Yet Cecil Newton is the bad guy for asking for something close to what the market would bear? Meanwhile all of the suits who run the game can sip cocktails and enjoy the Heisman ceremony?

fdf
04-01-2011, 08:20 AM
I agree it SHOULDNT play a factor in any decision making or perception of another human being, but youre out of your mind if you think people don't skew view due to race. I have zero doubt we'd look at Newton differently if he were white.

I've decided to conclude all my posts with the following text: "Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist homophobe." That way, we don't have to go thru the pretense we are having a discussion. I can get right to the crux of the matter.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist homophobe.

55CrushEm
04-01-2011, 08:24 AM
I've decided to conclude all my posts with the following text: "Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist homophobe." That way, we don't have to go thru the pretense we are having a discussion. I can get right to the crux of the matter.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist homophobe.

Does that mean you're a black homosexual?

Beantown Bronco
04-01-2011, 08:32 AM
Does that mean you're a black homosexual?

No, but his boyfriend is.

LRtagger
04-01-2011, 08:39 AM
Moon is not wrong about this, though:



Yes he is.

bronco militia
04-01-2011, 08:47 AM
Moon added: "The thing that makes me laugh is the question of can he [Newton] come out of the spread offense? Can he run a pro offense? Colt McCoy came out of the spread offense and very few people raised that issue about him. So did Sam Bradford. Same thing. Very few questions asking if Bradford could run a pro offense. Some of these questions about Cam are more about his intellect. It's blatant racism, some of it

the same questions were raised about Tebow and Alex Smith. Do you know why? Because they actually played in the spread offense.

Waren Moon is a football moron, a racist, and beats his wife

jhns
04-01-2011, 08:52 AM
I have to admit, the only reason I hate on Orton is because I'm racist.

bronco militia
04-01-2011, 08:53 AM
I have to admit, the only reason I hate on Orton is because I'm racist.

damn, I guess I'm a racist too.

at least I don't beat my wife

oubronco
04-01-2011, 09:01 AM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5DWcuQiyXZdAukfBsmst9LZNg3gFr5 UEaWgLuTYR7MOEFZk2oeQ

LRtagger
04-01-2011, 09:02 AM
Moon added: "The thing that makes me laugh is the question of can he [Newton] come out of the spread offense? Can he run a pro offense? Colt McCoy came out of the spread offense and very few people raised that issue about him. So did Sam Bradford. Same thing. Very few questions asking if Bradford could run a pro offense. Some of these questions about Cam are more about his intellect. It's blatant racism, some of it

the same questions were raised about Tebow and Alex Smith. Do you know why? Because they actually played in the spread offense.

Waren Moon is a football moron, a racist, and beats his wife

Exactly. And tons of people raised that question about McCoy. It's one of the reasons he was drafted in the Third round.

The same questions were asked about Bradford until his pre-draft workouts shot him up the boards. The two biggest questions about him were his shoulder injuries and the offense he came out of. He rose up the boards after the combine and pro-day just like Newton has.

Moon is more of a racist for not seeing those guys taking on criticism just because they are white. If Colt McCoy were black it would have been racism as the reason he was not a 1st round pick. What a douche.

StugotsIII
04-01-2011, 09:04 AM
I'd have to agree with Warren Moon. Racism is alive and well in the NFL and the media that surrounds it.


Newton will most likely by a top ten pick, even with all this racism surrounding him.


Take it from Warren Moon, one of the best spear-chuckers the NFL ever saw....the dude knows of what he speaks.

bendog
04-01-2011, 09:06 AM
yeah, Moon's an idiot about the race crap. But look at all the people on this board who've chimed in that Tebow is better physically than Cam. He's not. Newton has a better NFL release, just as good an arm, and is bigger and faster, and comes from a similar offense. Sure the posters here are McDites rather than racists, but the problems with Cam are all about his personality. IF BENRAPESBURGER can lead a locker room, so can a guy who takes pay for play and cheats on taxes.

it's a joke that the pundits are saying 'oh cam can't get along in a lockerroom.' Mike Dogkiller Vick was voted the eagles most inspirational player. Right now the story people want to hear is how bad Cam is. He's a jerk. But so are most people who have lived off of double standards for morals, ethics and grades since junior high school, and who have done nothing in life beyond playing a game well. But today's draft story is everyone lining up to watch Cam fall. We all like to see the mighty fall. Oldest game in journalism.

But the bottom line is that if Rapesburger keeps raping eventually he'll go to jail, and Cam took around 180K and didn't pay a dime in taxes, and if he keeps that up the IRS will put him in jail too. Nothing about race.

The one thing people can bank on is that Tebow isn't going to rape anyone or play fast and loose on taxes anymore than Elway and Bowlen. If you look in any K-12 school or any volunteer organizations where young people in their twenties are helping others, you'll find hundreds of thousands of people who are just as compelling as Tebow. However, what sets him apart is his peers in the NCAA DivI and the NFL.

I would not say that Moon is a football moron, however.

fdf
04-01-2011, 09:23 AM
Does that mean you're a black homosexual?

Oh, no. Why would you think that? These terms transcend race and sexual preference. Today, they are just argument enders and may be used by anyone sufficiently shameless.

It just means that anyone who disagrees with me is a racist and homophobe. I win!! :)

And anyone who disagrees with me is a racist and a homophobe.

Pony Boy
04-01-2011, 10:36 AM
He's just calling a spade a spade.....................;D

epicSocialism4tw
04-01-2011, 01:10 PM
I've decided to conclude all my posts with the following text: "Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist homophobe." That way, we don't have to go thru the pretense we are having a discussion. I can get right to the crux of the matter.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist homophobe.

You're up late too, eh?
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TDmvp
04-01-2011, 06:24 PM
You're up late too, eh?
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RED EYE REP !!!! .....


Been watching that since it came on the air years ago ... It's hard to even describe to people because as soon as you say it's on Fox News you lose them.

Hard to open a conversation with , you should see this show , it's the funniest crap ever and then tell them it's on Fox New and you've lost em Hilarious!



And nothing beats Courtney Friel Ab news heheh
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epicSocialism4tw
04-01-2011, 10:40 PM
RED EYE REP !!!! .....


Been watching that since it came on the air years ago ... It's hard to even describe to people because as soon as you say it's on Fox News you lose them.

Hard to open a conversation with , you should see this show , it's the funniest crap ever and then tell them it's on Fox New and you've lost em Hilarious!

Its the funniest, wittiest news show on TV. ^5

Tombstone RJ
04-01-2011, 11:53 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14879833/moon-angry-over-perceived-racial-bias-toward-newton



"A lot of the criticism hes receiving is unfortunate and racially based, Moon told Freeman. I thought we were all past this. I dont see other quarterbacks in the draft being criticized by the media or fans about their smile or called a phony. Hes being held to different standards from white quarterbacks. I thought we were past all this stuff about African-American quarterbacks, but I guess were not"

Enablers such a Footstepsfrom27 agree fully with this assertion no doubt....

you know what is sad? Warren Moon caring about Newton, that is what is so sad. I love Moon, he had the best arm in the NFL. ever. But he just has to admit that Newton is a clown. so what? Newton's got a check to cash and he's gonna cash it. roll on brotha...

Play2win
04-02-2011, 08:04 AM
NewtonNextClarett

DarkHorse
04-02-2011, 01:11 PM
Of course, this is the new age of thinking.

rugbythug
04-02-2011, 01:41 PM
I don't recall race being a factor in Tebow's criticism, though i do recall passionately argung that he was one of the top ATHLETES at the combine as well as the guy we needed to draft about a year before almost anyone on this board said this (go look it up why don't you). I think criticism was centered on the system he played in followed by questions about arm strength, but don't let facts get in your way there pal. You and the OP...birds of a feather. The only difference is you clam Christianity and he doesn't, which oddly makes him a smaller hypocrit than you.


Weren't you the one trying to be a Police officer? Cause you made the point of the original poster then attempted to pull a gotcha.

Play2win
04-02-2011, 01:53 PM
Of course, this is the new age of thinking.

People (of all types of backgrounds, creeds, cultures, and orientations) don't want equal rights, they want PREFERENTIAL RIGHTS.

broncogary
04-02-2011, 03:55 PM
Weren't you the one trying to be a Police officer? Cause you made the point of the original poster then attempted to pull a gotcha.

Please keep up, rugbythug. FloridaBronco was the poster trying to be a Police officer. footstepsfrom#27 is the poster attempting to be a mobile pit BBQ catering promoter.

errand
04-02-2011, 07:50 PM
RACIST VIEWPOINT- Cam Newton is a high risk because he's a black man, and I think blacks lack the intelligence and work ethic to become good NFL QB's.

OBJECTIVE VIEWPOINT - Cam Newton is a high risk because he's disingenuous, his replies seem scripted, he lacks the footwork and decision making to suceed in the NFL

I would think a college educated man regardless of his skin color would know the difference between a racist remark and an objective viewpoint

errand
04-02-2011, 08:00 PM
I don't recall race being a factor in Tebow's criticism, though i do recall passionately argung that he was one of the top ATHLETES at the combine as well as the guy we needed to draft about a year before almost anyone on this board said this (go look it up why don't you). I think criticism was centered on the system he played in followed by questions about arm strength, but don't let facts get in your way there pal. You and the OP...birds of a feather. The only difference is you clam Christianity and he doesn't, which oddly makes him a smaller hypocrit than you.

Of course race wasn't a factor when people critcized Tebow...only a black man being criticized is considered racist.....

txtebow
04-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Racism as an embedded institutional problem in this country interests me at the highest level. Warren Moon's personal view of the Cam Newton thing is of little to no interest to me, and your transparent attempts to bait me are of even less interest.

The irony in the highlighted portion of your statement is that the only institutional racism that is now being practiced is that which is biased FOR 'minorities' and directly opposed to those of European origin (and I use that term 'minorities' very loosely--one only need to look at the recent census data (~48% of children under 18 are non-european in the USA)

I am 110% for income level based incentive programs for opportunity. I am 200% opposed to utilizing race as any factor in any such program.