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rugbythug
03-27-2011, 03:21 PM
Team Building a Draft Exercise.

The premise would be you are the GM of a Team with no NFL talent whatsoever and are required to Build a Championship Level Team in 4 years. Using only the Draft. Before you even see the players of each draft It is my postulate that a Good GM knows what he must use his Draft Picks on to be competitive.

Year 1
Round 1- QB
Round 2-Center
Round 3-MLB
Round 4-Guard
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 2
Round 1- Defensive End
Round 2-Wider Receiver
Round 3-Right Tackle
Round 4-Guard
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 3
Round 1-Left Tackle
Round 2-Corner Back
Round 3-WLB
Round 4-Wide Receiver
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 4
Round 1-Defensive Tackle
Round 2-Corner Back
Round 3-Running Back
Round 4-Tight End
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Reasons- Each Round one would be the Positions that I think requires the most talent on a Good football Team. They are ordered by Maturation required to play each position at high level by Year 5. Also this premise suggests the team is getting better each year so drafting later and later. Obviously some the 5-7 round players would need to become starters.

chickennob2
03-27-2011, 04:04 PM
A championship defense with only one NFL-caliber defensive tackle?

(I guess you're filling holes through free agency. But I'd make that a priority.)

rugbythug
03-27-2011, 04:14 PM
A championship defense with only one NFL-caliber defensive tackle?

(I guess you're filling holes through free agency. But I'd make that a priority.)

One Good one means the other guy gets it easy. Does not need to be as good.

Missouribronc
03-27-2011, 05:12 PM
Team Building a Draft Exercise.

The premise would be you are the GM of a Team with no NFL talent whatsoever and are required to Build a Championship Level Team in 4 years. Using only the Draft. Before you even see the players of each draft It is my postulate that a Good GM knows what he must use his Draft Picks on to be competitive.

Year 1
Round 1- QB
Round 2-Center
Round 3-MLB
Round 4-Guard
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 2
Round 1- Defensive End
Round 2-Wider Receiver
Round 3-Right Tackle
Round 4-Guard
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 3
Round 1-Left Tackle
Round 2-Corner Back
Round 3-WLB
Round 4-Wide Receiver
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 4
Round 1-Defensive Tackle
Round 2-Corner Back
Round 3-Running Back
Round 4-Tight End
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Reasons- Each Round one would be the Positions that I think requires the most talent on a Good football Team. They are ordered by Maturation required to play each position at high level by Year 5. Also this premise suggests the team is getting better each year so drafting later and later. Obviously some the 5-7 round players would need to become starters.

Take it a step further...

Year 1
Round 1- QB
Round 2- Cornerback
Round 3- Defensive Tackle
Round 4- Safety
Round 5- Running Back
Round 6- Defensive Tackle
Round 7- Special Teams/Athlete

Year 2
Round 1- Left Tackle
Round 2- Defensive End/Outside Linebacker (Depends on system)
Round 3- Right Tackle
Round 4- Wide Receiver
Round 5- Guard
Round 6- Center
Round 7- Tight End

Year 3
Round 1- Defensive End/Outside Linebacker (Depends on system)
Round 2- MLB
Round 3- Safety
Round 4- Wide Receiver
Round 5- Defensive Tackle
Round 6- Guard

Year 4
Round 1- Defensive Tackle
Round 2- Corner Back
Round 3- Running Back
Round 4- Tight End
Round 5- Defensive Line
Round 6- Special Teams
Round 7- Running Back

Quarterback, Tackle, Rush Specialist, Cornerback, Middle Linebacker are the most important positions, in order of importance.

v2micca
03-28-2011, 04:03 AM
This is certainly a fun little exercise. Here is my take.


Year 1
Round 1- Left Tackle
Round 2- Defensive End
Round 3- Defensive Tackle
Round 4- Center
Round 5- Guard
Round 6- Defensive Tackle
Round 7- Special Teams/Athlete

Year 2
Round 1- QB
Round 2- Defensive End
Round 3- Right Tackle
Round 4- Wide Receiver
Round 5- Guard
Round 6- Safety
Round 7- Tight End

Year 3
Round 1- MLB
Round 2- Corner
Round 3- Safety
Round 4- Wide Receiver
Round 5- Defensive Tackle
Round 6- Special Teams/Athlete

Year 4
Round 1- Corner Back
Round 2- Outside Linebacker
Round 3- Running Back
Round 4- Tight End
Round 5- Wide Reciever
Round 6- Special Teams
Round 7- Running Back

Arkie
03-28-2011, 04:03 PM
Year 1
Round 1 Quarterback
Round 2 Middle Linebacker
Round 3 Center
Round 4 Cornerback
Round 5 Safety
Round 6 Guard
Round 7 BPA

Year 2
Round 1 Left Tackle
Round 2 Safety
Round 3 Right Tackle
Round 4 Outside Linebacker
Round 5 Wide Receiver
Round 6 Fullback
Round 7 BPA

Year 3
Round 1 Defensive End
Round 2 Defensive Tackle
Round 3 Outside Linebacker
Round 4 Guard
Round 5 Tight End
Round 6 BPA
Round 7 BPA

Year 4
Round 1 Defensive Tackle
Round 2 Defensive End
Round 3 Running Back
Round 4 Cornerback
Round 5 Wide Receiver
Round 6 BPA
Round 7 BPA

Boomhauer
03-28-2011, 04:15 PM
Yr1 Rnd1-5: MLB, QB, WR, S, TE

Yr2 Rnd1-5: CB, RB, DT, C/LG, WR

Yr3 Rnd1-5: LT, DE, DB, RG/T, RB

Yr4 Rnd1-5: OLB, DT, QB, OG, DB

HAT
03-28-2011, 04:59 PM
Assuming a 4-3......

Round 1's
QB, LT, DE, MIKE

Round 2's
FS, CB1, RB1, WR1

Round 3's
Center, SOLB, WOLB, DT1

Round 4's
Guard1, RT, WR2, DE2

Round 5's
TE, SS, Guard2, DT2

Round 6's
RB2, FB1, CB2, WR3

misturanderson
03-28-2011, 05:18 PM
Why is everyone waiting until the 4th year to pick DTs which are historically players that are second only to QBs in terms of development time?

Mogulseeker
03-28-2011, 05:30 PM
Team Building a Draft Exercise.

The premise would be you are the GM of a Team with no NFL talent whatsoever and are required to Build a Championship Level Team in 4 years. Using only the Draft. Before you even see the players of each draft It is my postulate that a Good GM knows what he must use his Draft Picks on to be competitive.

Year 1
Round 1- QB
Round 2-Center
Round 3-MLB
Round 4-Guard
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 2
Round 1- Defensive End
Round 2-Wider Receiver
Round 3-Right Tackle
Round 4-Guard
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 3
Round 1-Left Tackle
Round 2-Corner Back
Round 3-WLB
Round 4-Wide Receiver
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Year 4
Round 1-Defensive Tackle
Round 2-Corner Back
Round 3-Running Back
Round 4-Tight End
Round 5-7 Special Teams Players BAP

Reasons- Each Round one would be the Positions that I think requires the most talent on a Good football Team. They are ordered by Maturation required to play each position at high level by Year 5. Also this premise suggests the team is getting better each year so drafting later and later. Obviously some the 5-7 round players would need to become starters.

I like this take, but I would switch up the first round for years 2 and 3 - get an LT in year two and a RDE year three.

Boomhauer
03-29-2011, 01:26 AM
Based off the six draft outlines above, a did a quick and meaningless compile of what importance we put on the different positions. Higher the number given means that position was drafted sooner and in higher rounds. Only went to Rnd4 as it was the lowest included in all replies.

QB: 95
RB: 29
WR: 54
TE: 3
LT: 80
RT: 43
G: 20
C: 55

DT: 71
DE: 78
MLB: 73
OLB: 63
S: 57
CB: 72

Requiem
03-29-2011, 02:35 AM
Who I would select in a given year would depend on the talent in that class. Let's put it this way. Am I going to select a QB in a year that doesn't have much starting talent? No. Approaching the draft requires knowledge of who is going to be in it.

Are there positions where I'd place certain premiums over others? Absolutely. Unless he was an unsual talent, I'd never consider taking a guard in the first round. Same would go for a kicker or punter. I'd probably never consider taking a safety in round one unless he was a Sean Taylor type talent.

QB, LT, DL and LB are positions where I'd look heavily to invest first round selections. Cornerback too. The first three positions are where the elites are drafted. You can always find a productive LB in most classes early on. Not a huge bust ratio with good LBers, IMHO. A talented corner is always a plus, but I'm not gonna draft a great one super early until my front seven foundation is built.

Rounds two and three is where I'd load up on my running backs, receivers and in general, the offensive weapons. I'd look for safeties here and other secondary players, but preference on drafting would be dependent on scheme. Zone corners vs. Man corners, etc.

Guards, Centers and Right Tackle would all be round three or after consideration for the most part. Prospects at these positions are gonna have to blow me away if I want to invest highly in them.

Sort of my general philosophy.

v2micca
03-29-2011, 04:50 AM
Who I would select in a given year would depend on the talent in that class. Let's put it this way. Am I going to select a QB in a year that doesn't have much starting talent? No. Approaching the draft requires knowledge of who is going to be in it.





This is a given. But this is a mental exercise which specifies creating an over-arcing strategy before you get to evaluate talent from any draft. Obviously, these lists would be initial outlines that would be revised over the 5 year period. But the challenge of the exercise was to simply create the starting point.

Although, I do find it interesting that I seem to be in the minority when it comes to deciding when to attempt to draft a QB. I've just seen too many first round QBs chewed up when thrown out to the wolves behind a sub-par offensive line. Yes, the truly great ones persevere. But, I would want to maximize my first round drafts chances to succeed at the NFL level.

Requiem
03-29-2011, 06:37 AM
Well, I gave my strategy. I'll put it in short form:

Positions Addressed in Round 1: QB, LT, DL, LB
Positions Addressed in Round 2: RB, WR, TE, CB
Positions Addressed in Round 3: OLB, S, RT, C, OG

I'd note that the value for positions 2 and 3 could be used interchangeably. I always think there tends to be a good value for all those positions in those rounds and that those are good rounds to get those players.

Positions Addressed in/after Round 4: Special Teams, (Specialists, Kicker, Punter) and all others
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There wouldn't be a reason not to address all positions in round for and after once you get primary players slotted in with earlier selections over the course of the years we have to build a Super Bowl team.

I'd also like to say that I would always be willing to gamble on a player who doesn't have a true position, but is a threat at the other level. Whether it be a return specialist or a utility weapon on offense. I like the idea of getting a KR/PR specialist every draft. Someone whose role is almost exclusively that. Have your main wide receivers and running backs. Don't let integral players on the offensive (or) defensive side of the ball return kicks unless they have superior/elite abilities to do so.