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HAT
03-18-2011, 08:32 PM
Didn't see this posted which means it probably is.....

Pretty fair assessment of Tebow IMO but they've never heard of Brandon Lloyd apparently? :spit:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/638389-2011-nfl-draft-tom-brady-tim-tebow-nfl-trade-rumors-and-thursdays-nfl-news/entry/53620-tim-tebow-grading-tebows-nfl-career-one-year-later

Tim Tebow Got His Chance To Make An Impression In 2010

One year ago all eyes were on Florida for Tim Tebow's Pro Day. Tebow was trying to make a case that he was a fast learner and could adapt his game to a pro style and be successful in the NFL.

One year later Tebow still has questions, but to call him a bust at this point means you either are not paying attention or you just do not like Tebow.

Tebow's final stat line for 2010 was 41-82 for 654 yards and five touchdowns with three picks through three starts. These numbers are not great, but compared to Jimmy Clausen, Tebow is a Pro Bowl quarterback.

You would like to see a higher completion percentage, but Denver's receivers are not the league-leading type. Only three picks in three starts is good for a rookie, though.

At the end of the day you have a rookie quarterback who showed a lot of promise. His playing style looked similar to Michael Vick's at times, and he has the size to take the hits a scrambling quarterback takes.

The Broncos had him start the final three games of the season partially because of injuries to Kyle Orton and partially because the season was over and they had to see what they had in Tebow.

What they have right now is potential. Kyle Orton played great football last year despite the adverse conditions in Denver. To cast Orton aside now would be foolish. That does not mean you bury Tebow on the bench, but it does mean Tebow could be the starting quarterback for the Broncos or another team in 2012.

At the end of his first year, Tebow is not where he needs to be, but he is farther along than many of his critics ever thought he would be.

BroncoMan4ever
03-18-2011, 09:02 PM
fair assesment. but a big difference between Tim and most other rookies, is Tebow in his first 3 games didn't look lost, he was in complete control of himself, and his teammates. yes, he looked like a rookie, but he looked like a rookie with a ****load of promise and potential.

footstepsfrom#27
03-18-2011, 09:22 PM
I don't think Tebow is going to let Fox keep him on the bench.

schaaf
03-18-2011, 10:11 PM
fap fap fap fap fap

AZorange1
03-18-2011, 10:17 PM
Not a bad report-but I especially enjoyed the last sentence. THEY'LL SEE

OBF1
03-18-2011, 10:38 PM
ofcourse, no mention of his rushing TD's

NUB
03-18-2011, 10:44 PM
Bleacher Report is like sports writing fan fiction.

BroncoMan4ever
03-18-2011, 11:11 PM
I don't think Tebow is going to let Fox keep him on the bench.

i agree. if by some miracle the CBA is worked out and we were to get a full offseason, even if Elway, Fox and Xanders all wanted to go forward with Orton as the starter and give Tebow another year on the bench i believe he would throw a monkey wrench into those plans and win the starting job anyway.

with CBA uncertainty it might take him a few weeks to supplant Orton as the QB in Denver. regardless of when or how it happens, Tebow will start the majority of Denver's games if not all of them.

OABB
03-18-2011, 11:15 PM
If fox cares about the little things like points, he will start tebow.

db56
03-19-2011, 06:12 AM
Orton has all the abilities that Tebow can learn through good coaching, repetition, and good old fashioned hard work: footwork, anticipation, reading coverages, etc.

Tebow posseses rare abilities that Orton simply doesnt posess and never will.

If Orton is that much better in camp and Fox decides to go with him, I can live with it as long as Orton plays well and gives the team a chance to win.

Orton has my respect, but the future is at the doorstep and its just a matter of time...

gobroncos313
03-19-2011, 10:11 AM
If there is truly a QB competition for the starting job:

Orton will get the start if it is decided in practice. This is because he excels in running a game plan under a controlled environment and has the experience to look really good in doing so. Tebow is still young and will struggle in practice and not look as polished as Orton in a controlled environment.

Tebow will get it if it is decided in preseason games (actual game situations). This is because Tebow excels when the pressure is on. Orton will look a lot like he does in practice between the 20's and when the called play works. When the pressure heats up such as things getting tight in the red zone or a play breaking down Orton will look his usual awful self.

I think at this point in time it would be a fatal mistake for the Broncos organization not to start Tim Tebow for the following reasons:

1. Fan support is at an all time low and Tebow energizes that support.

2. We are in transition and not much is expected of us, what better situation to let a young QB learn the ropes.

3. Tebow is not as polished as Orton but he performs better in game situations. He also raises the level of play for the entire team with his intensity when he is in the game. Orton does none of that and plays at the level of the team but with a ceiling.

4. Tebow is a winner and hates to lose, when building a foundation of a team you need leaders that can make that attitude infectious as you build.

I hope that Elway and Fox know these things. I've been watching the Broncos faithfully for 30+ years now and quit frankly if Orton starts next year I will not be too excited about this team. If Orton starts I will watch the games that are televised in my area only. I will not invest money in an expensive Sunday Ticket subscription to watch our QB put up good stats between the 20's just to fail inside the red zone. I will not take my children to watch the Broncos play at Arrowhead Stadium.
If Tebow starts I will invest in Sunday Ticket because I know I will see and energized team out there on Sundays. I will purchase the tickets and brave the red crowds at Arrowhead stadium because it will be worth it to see what my team does on the field.

Cito Pelon
03-19-2011, 10:21 AM
I didn't know much about Tebow first hand knowledge when we drafted him, just mainly things people here had posted about potentially drafting the guy. But after seeing him in PS it was clear he had potential. Then the last three games of 2010 it was clear he has "winner" written all over him.

NASurfer
03-19-2011, 11:00 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/638389-2011-nfl-draft-tom-brady-tim-tebow-nfl-trade-rumors-and-thursdays-nfl-news/entry/53620-tim-tebow-grading-tebows-nfl-career-one-year-later


At the end of the day you have a rookie quarterback who showed a lot of promise. His playing style looked similar to Michael Vick's at times, and he has the size to take the hits a scrambling quarterback takes.

Yeah, it's either take off and scramble or get sacked LOL.

Seriously I sure hope our offensive line play is jumping out on tape and steps get taken to rectify it's horrible play rather then "OMG why didn't Tebow just stand back there like a pocket passer and get sacked". :wave:

BroncoMan4ever
03-19-2011, 09:58 PM
I didn't know much about Tebow first hand knowledge when we drafted him, just mainly things people here had posted about potentially drafting the guy. But after seeing him in PS it was clear he had potential. Then the last three games of 2010 it was clear he has "winner" written all over him.

EXACTLY!

he is not the prototypical QB that will stand in the pocket and pick apart secondaries(yet, he will work his ass off and may build up that part of his game)

but anyone who watches the guy play, sees there is some sort of "IT" factor with him. he is infectious, his fiery attitude and leadership rubs off on the guys in the huddle with him, he makes his teammates play better.

look at the last 3 weeks of the season, he came in with a neutered playbook, an interim HC, and with a team full of guys who were simply phoning it in the last half of the season, and he had the team playing harder than they had in weeks, and the entire team in all 3 phases looked better.

you can't keep someone like that on the bench.

he may not win with a cannon arm like Elway, or with brains like Manning, or mechanics like Brady, but he will win.

epicSocialism4tw
03-19-2011, 11:14 PM
he may not win with a cannon arm like Elway, or with brains like Manning, or mechanics like Brady, but he will win.

He'll win much the same way that Elway did...albeit with much less of an arm, but far superior leadership qualities.

The defensive players may respect Tebow more than his offensive teammates right now. That's pretty dang cool.

epicSocialism4tw
03-19-2011, 11:19 PM
If there is truly a QB competition for the starting job:

Orton will get the start if it is decided in practice. This is because he excels in running a game plan under a controlled environment and has the experience to look really good in doing so. Tebow is still young and will struggle in practice and not look as polished as Orton in a controlled environment.

Tebow will get it if it is decided in preseason games (actual game situations). This is because Tebow excels when the pressure is on. Orton will look a lot like he does in practice between the 20's and when the called play works. When the pressure heats up such as things getting tight in the red zone or a play breaking down Orton will look his usual awful self.


Thats not a bad bit of insight.

If Orton is still in Denver in August, he'll either show up ready to compete or he'll have folded up his tent and will be going through the motions.

Tebow's a fiery young player who will be fighting for his spot regardless of what Orton decides to do.

OABB
03-19-2011, 11:20 PM
Where's tailgatenut to talk bad about tebow for being a good person?

Inquisitive Encyclopedic Insomniac
03-20-2011, 05:25 AM
Tebow for President! Who ever that hot chick is on BroncoMan4ever avatar for life.

Orton can get you a 500 record, Tebow can be the future. Play the leader ditch the seat warmer

Bronco Vixen
03-20-2011, 07:13 AM
fair assesment. but a big difference between Tim and most other rookies, is Tebow in his first 3 games didn't look lost, he was in complete control of himself, and his teammates. yes, he looked like a rookie, but he looked like a rookie with a ****load of promise and potential.

Could not agree more. Unfortunately:

One year later Tebow still has questions, but to call him a bust at this point means you either are not paying attention or you just do not like Tebow.

Rumface will neither pay attention to anyone who does not resemble a prototypical NFL QB, nor do I imagine he "likes" Tebow as as successful Timmy would pretty much guarantee the supplanting of Johnny as the city's favorite son.

I just don't think he's going to give him a fair shot.

mustangtoby
03-20-2011, 09:21 AM
I don't think Tebow needs a fair shot, just a shot will do. He will prove himself and all will be well.

Taco John
03-20-2011, 10:11 AM
I love how they are hyping up how Orton might be the starter if there is football this year. The thought of Orton and Tebow in a competition for the job makes me laugh. It's the proverbial one legged man in a butt kicking contest. How in the world can Orton possibly beat Tebow for a job playing quarterback? And if he does - he must be scoring a LOT of touchdowns, especially in the red zone. I like the sound of that. Imagine Orton suddenly becoming a red zone phenom... Well, if you can. I'm trying, but like I say, the thought of that just makes me laugh.

schaaf
03-20-2011, 10:19 AM
Damn.... I can't wait to watch Tebow next year.

broncswin
03-21-2011, 12:21 PM
Tebow for President! Who ever that hot chick is on BroncoMan4ever avatar for life.

Orton can get you a 500 record, Tebow can be the future. Play the leader ditch the seat warmer


wow...that has a little bit of a Mock post feel to it....damn I miss that guy:(

Inquisitive Encyclopedic Insomniac
03-21-2011, 01:45 PM
wow...that has a little bit of a Mock post feel to it....damn I miss that guy:(

Tell Elway to come back and we will spend all the money on the line. Or we offer to pay him 1 million if he gets sacked and 2 million for each playoff win. Ditch the suit

ghwk
03-21-2011, 01:53 PM
He'll win much the same way that Elway did...albeit with much less of an arm, but far superior leadership qualities.
The defensive players may respect Tebow more than his offensive teammates right now. That's pretty dang cool.

Just what drugs are you on to make asinine statements like that? He has leadership ability yes but far superior? Criminy you make some horse a$$d statements like they were some sort of unversal truth sometimes.

McDman
03-21-2011, 01:56 PM
I am going to start finding anyone who posts bleacher report articles and kicking them in the groin.

epicSocialism4tw
03-21-2011, 01:57 PM
Just what drugs are you on to make asinine statements like that? He has leadership ability yes but far superior? Criminy you make some horse a$$d statements like they were some sort of unversal truth.

John led by example. His teammates had confidence in his abilities and thats why they did what he asked and played up to his standard.

I know you're into revisionist history and all, but making Elway into a vocal rah-rah guy just doesnt fit any picture of what actually happened.

Tebow not only leads his teammates, but he leads the franchise. The guy has phenomenal leadership abilities. He's like Brian Dawkins as a QB.

You'll see. At least you should see if your head's not buried in the sand like you prefer it to be.

HAT
03-21-2011, 02:31 PM
I am going to start finding anyone who posts bleacher report articles and kicking them in the groin.

To be fair....I didn't actually post it on it's merits of Tebow vs. Orton......

I was just pointing out how epically retarded their point about Tebow's 50% completion % was. I mean the author tried to downplay it by stating Denver doesn't have league leading type receivers. Ummmm....Lloyd did, in fact, lead the lead in yards.

Gaff was also 23rd which doesn't sound like much until you consider that there are 32 teams which means he was better than 9 teams #1 WR.

I realize total yards and YPR aren't the best way to define "league leading" but it'll have to do b/c AFAIK there isn't a publicly available stat strictly for drops, official or otherwise. FO has a "catch rate" % but that includes all incomplete passes targeted at that WR no matter whose fault it was.

McDman
03-21-2011, 03:45 PM
To be fair....I didn't actually post it on it's merits of Tebow vs. Orton......

I was just pointing out how epically retarded their point about Tebow's 50% completion % was. I mean the author tried to downplay it by stating Denver doesn't have league leading type receivers. Ummmm....Lloyd did, in fact, lead the lead in yards.

Gaff was also 23rd which doesn't sound like much until you consider that there are 32 teams which means he was better than 9 teams #1 WR.

I realize total yards and YPR aren't the best way to define "league leading" but it'll have to do b/c AFAIK there isn't a publicly available stat strictly for drops, official or otherwise. FO has a "catch rate" % but that includes all incomplete passes targeted at that WR no matter whose fault it was.

You get a pass this time...