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brncs_fan
03-12-2011, 11:40 AM
It is upon us. Already have some upsets and buzzer beaters in the conference championship games and the tournament, I believe, is wide open this year.

Discuss...

Broncos4Life
03-12-2011, 11:59 AM
GO U OF A WILDCATS!!!

SoCalBronco
03-12-2011, 12:08 PM
Since Miami will not make the tournament, I am rooting for North Carolina.

Missouribronc
03-12-2011, 12:15 PM
The C-USA game and the Stony Brook-Boston game were pretty good. Both times, the underdog led the entire way, until the favorites took it in the end.

Garcia Bronco
03-12-2011, 12:17 PM
UNC is stealing Clemsons lunch.

Hokies and Duke up next.

TonyR
03-12-2011, 01:23 PM
Freshman Harrison Barnes with 40 points and 8 rebounds for the Heels in their win today.

Missouribronc
03-12-2011, 04:03 PM
So Kansas goes from struggling against a 9 seed on Friday, winning by 1, to possibly the No. 1 seed overall in the NCAA Tournament as they pound Texas.

Missouribronc
03-12-2011, 04:59 PM
One of the worst offensive foul calls I've ever seen in Arizona-Washington game.

Missouribronc
03-12-2011, 05:18 PM
And 1 Williams! Cats are gonna win.

Edit: Nice jinx idiot.

That One Guy
03-12-2011, 08:25 PM
F'ing Louisville... very talented team with some great energy but, ****, if you can't avoid getting down by 10-15, you wont be able to win consistently.

Trailed 11-2 two nights ago, down by 16 in first half yesterday against ND, and down 12 or 14 or something tonight.

Still, game came down to one of their 3 point shooters having to hit 3 FTs to go to OT... he misses the 2nd and then accidently makes the 3rd. :o

AZorange1
03-12-2011, 08:42 PM
I am #1 a Syracuse fan--bigtime #2 Big East fan #3 Az fan(Wildcats) Gotta be impressed with UConn and Kemba Walker. 5 games, 5 nights and they play hard. I give them a real shot. If Syracuse had to make a foul shot to save the world, we would all be in big trouble.

Requiem
03-12-2011, 08:48 PM
This is the year that a #16 seed goes all the way. You heard it here first. A-DUR.

That One Guy
03-12-2011, 08:50 PM
I am #1 a Syracuse fan--bigtime #2 Big East fan #3 Az fan(Wildcats) Gotta be impressed with UConn and Kemba Walker. 5 games, 5 nights and they play hard. I give them a real shot. If Syracuse had to make a foul shot to save the world, we would all be in big trouble.

He was good but both in the stretch where he was on the bench along with the stretch where they doubled him and locked him down, they looked reaaaalllll vulnerable when he wasn't there to do it for them. If Louisville wasn't a bunch of jackasses throwing up shots blindfolded and backwords from Timbuktu, that wouldn't even have been a game.

For being their 5th game in 5 days though, they kept their composure pretty well. I just think if that's the best the Big East can ultimately offer, they'll once again be the touted conference sitting at home watching the Final Four despite, at least before the conference tournaments, being proposed as holding two of the #1 seeds.

That One Guy
03-12-2011, 08:52 PM
This is the year that a #16 seed goes all the way. You heard it here first. A-DUR.

I'll put $10 up that a non-16 seed wins it all. Deal?:yayaya:

Requiem
03-12-2011, 08:56 PM
No.

AZorange1
03-12-2011, 09:22 PM
He was good but both in the stretch where he was on the bench along with the stretch where they doubled him and locked him down, they looked reaaaalllll vulnerable when he wasn't there to do it for them. If Louisville wasn't a bunch of jackasses throwing up shots blindfolded and backwords from Timbuktu, that wouldn't even have been a game.

For being their 5th game in 5 days though, they kept their composure pretty well. I just think if that's the best the Big East can ultimately offer, they'll once again be the touted conference sitting at home watching the Final Four despite, at least before the conference tournaments, being proposed as holding two of the #1 seeds.

UCONN plays like they want it. I have to agree at this point that the Big East will be better represented by either Pitt or Louisville, but don't rule out UCONN.

AZorange1
03-12-2011, 09:35 PM
Think about this for a minute though. Half of the Big East conference are ranked teams. The Big East style of play is far more physical than most other conferences, and unfortunatley they have to play and beat-up on each other to finish the season. You are a Big East team and you are playing in your conference, chances are you are playing a top 20 team week-in and week-out. Not the weaker scedules I see other ranked teams playing.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 10:22 AM
I amend my statement from last night. The worst offensive foul call goes to every bull**** call in Duke games against their opponents on offensive fouls.

That foul early against North Carolina today was beyond ridiculous.

spdirty
03-13-2011, 02:08 PM
Lunardi's latest bracket has CU as an 11 against St. Johns. Also hope like hell that he is right about Greeley and they are a 15, avoiding the play in.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 02:12 PM
Lunardi's latest bracket has CU as an 11 against St. Johns. Also hope like hell that he is right about Greeley and they are a 15, avoiding the play in.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

UNC will avoid the play in. Big Sky has a good enough standing RPI-wise and their record is good enough to avoid being a 16 seed.

spdirty
03-13-2011, 02:23 PM
This is fun. Been about 7 years since Ive been really excited about NCAA BBall.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 02:25 PM
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spdirty
03-13-2011, 02:29 PM
LOL I know it won't happen, but how ****in funny would it be. K-State is a projected 6 seed and Colorado is a projected 11. Have a few heads explode in Manhatten if they did that.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 02:31 PM
LOL I know it won't happen, but how ****in funny would it be. K-State is a projected 6 seed and Colorado is a projected 11. Have a few heads explode in Manhatten if they did that.

Oh, I made that...that's no one's projections but mine, which will be totally and utterly wrong and I completely wasted the last hour of my life...but what the hell else am I going to do on a boring Sunday when none of the championship games were competitive whatsoever all day?

And K-State will be a higher seed than Colorado, despite head-to-heads.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 02:32 PM
I want to know why when they show live look-ins at the committee they are NEVER talking?

Shouldn't they be discussing stuff and not staring at computer screens?

spdirty
03-13-2011, 02:34 PM
Oh, I made that...that's no one's projections but mine, which will be totally and utterly wrong and I completely wasted the last hour of my life...but what the hell else am I going to do on a boring Sunday when none of the championship games were competitive whatsoever all day?

And K-State will be a higher seed than Colorado, despite head-to-heads.
Lunardi also has it like that though.

I would be happy if CU got an 11 or 12 though. Don't want them to get a 10.

spdirty
03-13-2011, 02:36 PM
Id also cancel my trip to Vegas if CU or UNC got into the Denver bracket.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 02:44 PM
Bill Self is such a shmoozer. Asked about a higher seeding, and said they've had better match ups as a six seed rather than a two seed...

I don't think he's ever been lower than a four seed at Kansas...

spdirty
03-13-2011, 03:01 PM
Here we go.

spdirty
03-13-2011, 03:21 PM
Greeley is a 15 seed going against the Aztecs in Tuscon.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 03:24 PM
Missouri got jobbed as an 11 seed.

Colorado is not in, at least, if Mizzou got an 11, there's no way Colorado got in, imo.

spdirty
03-13-2011, 03:31 PM
K I'm getting scared.

rovolution
03-13-2011, 03:34 PM
WOW, if CU is shut out of the tourney the selection committee should be ashamed of themselves.


What an effing disgrace

A team with one NBA lottery pick (Alec Burks) and a bottom 1st round NBA selection (Cory Higgins) deserves to be in the tourney.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 03:35 PM
Old Dominion is in. Colorado is out.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 03:38 PM
11 teams from the Big East, and no Colorado. What a **** job by the committee.

rovolution
03-13-2011, 03:39 PM
CU shut out of the tourney

WOW

shocker

spdirty
03-13-2011, 03:39 PM
**** you NCAA!!!!!!!!!!!! Im boycotting the tournament!!! **** this!

bombay
03-13-2011, 03:41 PM
Missouri got jobbed as an 11 seed.

Colorado is not in, at least, if Mizzou got an 11, there's no way Colorado got in, imo.

Colorado finished ahead of Missouri in conference (tiebreakers) and won two games in the tournement. No was can they legitimately be kept out. Of course, this is the NCAA who will cheat for at every juncture. Colorado also beat a 5 seed three times and a 2 seed once.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 03:46 PM
Colorado finished ahead of Missouri in conference (tiebreakers) and won two games in the tournement. No was can they legitimately be kept out. Of course, this is the NCAA who will cheat for at every juncture. Colorado also beat a 5 seed three times and a 2 seed once.

Its one of the most blatant snubs I've seen in a while. Syracuse comes to mind a few years ago.

One of the worst omissions I've ever seen.

spdirty
03-13-2011, 03:47 PM
Kansas State is a ****ing 5 seed. Unbelievable. Well, since once again I really dont have a dog in this hunt, **** them, Ill watch Animal Planet instead of their bull**** tournament.

theAPAOps5
03-13-2011, 03:48 PM
NCAA where cheating is ok if you AREN'T a student Athlete. Pathetic. If more deserving teams had been in over them that is one thing. But that just isn't the case.

Connecticut Bronco Fan
03-13-2011, 03:48 PM
Colorado definitely got screwed.

VCU making it in is eye raising to say the least.

bombay
03-13-2011, 03:49 PM
Wow. Ohio St players get caught cheating, go ahead and play, boys, we need the TV ratings. Auburn's star QB accepts $200 K, no problem, we need ratings. The ncaa is filthy.

rovolution
03-13-2011, 03:50 PM
What a shame.

We gave away the game to the Jayhawks on Friday and could have easily beaten them had Cory Higgins not been tired from the K-State game.

Its an absolute shame to prevent the nation from seeing an elite future NBA player like Alec Burks.

I know of some of you Big 12 fans will try to disagree but Burks is the best player in the Big 12. He is a guaranteed NBA lottery pick and carries his team on his back each and every game.

its a shame the nation will not see a player of his ability on the big stage.

OrangeSe7en
03-13-2011, 03:51 PM
Now Gene Smith is on defending this disgrace. As if suspending Tressel two games wasnt enough of a disgrace.

bombay
03-13-2011, 03:53 PM
http://TippingPitchers.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

The ncaa is a joke. And to think they pretend to hold players/schools to some sort of standard.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

That One Guy
03-13-2011, 03:53 PM
Louisville and UK pulling 4 seeds, not bad. Lame putting louisville against another Kentucky team though in Morehead St.

Goobzilla
03-13-2011, 03:54 PM
I feel bad for Coach Boyle and the entire Buff Nation. That was a 1st class screw job all the way. 3-0 against a 5 seed means nothing I guess.

OrangeSe7en
03-13-2011, 03:54 PM
BTW, I know someone who went to Harvard that was lobbying for them to make it. I find it kind of interesting that neither BC, Colorado, or Harvard made it. If CU would have made it in, Harvard people would have been complaining since they beat CU. Same goes for BC. It almost seems the NCAA was running away from the Harvard problem.

RhymesayersDU
03-13-2011, 03:59 PM
Sad day for CU, the ESPN guys have been going off on that snub for the past 15 minutes FWIW.

Missouribronc
03-13-2011, 04:03 PM
UAB vs. a 12 seed...0-2, and a loss in the FIRST round of the Conference USA.

Colorado vs. a 5 seed...3-0 and a loss in the THIRD round of the Big 12 tournament.

What an utter fail.

OrangeSe7en
03-13-2011, 04:06 PM
Illinois shouldnt be in and neither should Michigan State. ESPN is picking on UAB and VCU but Michigan State lost 14 games and were barely .500. Come on now!

RhymesayersDU
03-13-2011, 04:10 PM
So here's what I don't understand.

There's 4 play-in games this year. One play-in game (UAB/Clemson) the winner gets a #12 seed in the tourney. Another (USC/VCU) the winner gets an #11 seed.

Shouldn't all the play-in winners inherently be given #16 seeds? I don't understand how a winner of these 2 games should suddenly get seeded as 12 or 11. If that's their seed, shouldn't they be in the tournament from the beginning? This makes no sense.

oubronco
03-13-2011, 04:13 PM
Did they say CU was 5-7 against top 50 teams

That One Guy
03-13-2011, 04:14 PM
So here's what I don't understand.

There's 4 play-in games this year. One play-in game (UAB/Clemson) the winner gets a #12 seed in the tourney. Another (USC/VCU) the winner gets an #11 seed.

Shouldn't all the play-in winners inherently be given #16 seeds? I don't understand how a winner of these 2 games should suddenly get seeded as 12 or 11. If that's their seed, shouldn't they be in the tournament from the beginning? This makes no sense.

Never heard of that... is that new?

I thought they always got the last #16 by winning the play in game.

That One Guy
03-13-2011, 04:14 PM
Did they say CU was 5-7 against top 50 teams

Uhh... no.

6-7 ;D

RhymesayersDU
03-13-2011, 04:14 PM
Well they did, but that was when there was only 1 play-in game. Now we have four.

The other two games, the teams are playing for #16 seeds.

RhymesayersDU
03-13-2011, 04:15 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/bracket

OrangeSe7en
03-13-2011, 04:15 PM
So here's what I don't understand.

There's 4 play-in games this year. One play-in game (UAB/Clemson) the winner gets a #12 seed in the tourney. Another (USC/VCU) the winner gets an #11 seed.

Shouldn't all the play-in winners inherently be given #16 seeds? I don't understand how a winner of these 2 games should suddenly get seeded as 12 or 11. If that's their seed, shouldn't they be in the tournament from the beginning? This makes no sense.

Well, some of the teams that make the tournament only make it because they won their conference tournament. It seems most of the play ins are for at large bubble teams.

That One Guy
03-13-2011, 04:16 PM
They're ranting non-stop about the CU snub... Now I'd love for VCU and UAB to get pounded to make the point.

Not because I care about CU but I hate all the nonsense that happens in NCAAB

oubronco
03-13-2011, 04:17 PM
Uhh... no.

6-7 ;D

Whatever that is why they are not in apparently

It's nothing new a team or two always gets screwed every year

OrangeSe7en
03-13-2011, 04:18 PM
They're ranting non-stop about the CU snub... Now I'd love for VCU and UAB to get pounded to make the point.

Not because I care about CU but I hate all the nonsense that happens in NCAAB

Yeah, but its the same every year. It never changes.

That One Guy
03-13-2011, 04:18 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/bracket

Hadn't actually looked at one. Thanks.

Very interesting for how that worked out. Play in should be the #16, I think, but maybe they need to rethink who gets a guarranteed shot if this is such an issue.

RhymesayersDU
03-13-2011, 04:19 PM
http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/2011-march-madness-bracket-printable-blank.jpg

spdirty
03-13-2011, 04:20 PM
CU is 6-7 against top 50

VCU is 3-6

UAB is 1-4.

1 ****ing win against top 50. Unreal.

oubronco
03-13-2011, 04:21 PM
It's funny when you look at the bottom of this page and see similar threads and one is "Medicare for Dummies"

RhymesayersDU
03-13-2011, 04:21 PM
Well, some of the teams that make the tournament only make it because they won their conference tournament. It seems most of the play ins are for at large bubble teams.

I mean, I see what you're saying, that the reality is that UAB or Clemson are probably stronger then a winner of some minor conference.

But logically, it still bugs me. If you're not good enough to get into the tournament and are relegated to a play-in game, you should get a 16 seed.

Don't like it? Have a better year or win your tournament.

OrangeSe7en
03-13-2011, 04:22 PM
CU is 6-7 against top 50

VCU is 3-6

UAB is 1-4.

1 ****ing win against top 50. Unreal.

Yeah, but you could poke holes in a number of other power conference teams, not just VCU or UAB. Illinois and Michigan State shouldnt be in. You also have Clemson and USC as well as several other teams.

OrangeSe7en
03-13-2011, 04:23 PM
I mean, I see what you're saying, that the reality is that UAB or Clemson are probably stronger then a winner of some minor conference.

But logically, it still bugs me. If you're not good enough to get into the tournament and are relegated to a play-in game, you should get a 16 seed.

Don't like it? Have a better year or win your tournament.

Thats just one of many flaws you can find with this whole mess.

That One Guy
03-13-2011, 04:24 PM
I mean, I see what you're saying, that the reality is that UAB or Clemson are probably stronger then a winner of some minor conference.

But logically, it still bugs me. If you're not good enough to get into the tournament and are relegated to a play-in game, you should get a 16 seed.

Don't like it? Have a better year or win your tournament.

Agreed. And if the tournament winners are so ****ty that they are worse than these at large teams, they need to relook the merit of that tournament.

I really think, overall though, the tournaments should have more weight. Most of them come across as a practice round for the real tournament.

Crushaholic
03-13-2011, 04:44 PM
Colorado isn't in it? Thank God. My team was getting tired of losing to Colorado...:rofl:

SpringStein
03-13-2011, 04:51 PM
East Coast bias? Nah, no such thing...

enjolras
03-13-2011, 05:09 PM
This is just amazing... I can't put it into words. You can come up with at least 10 at large teams that Colorado stacked up well against. Penn State? Michigan State? UAB? VCU?

It just doesn't make a damn lick of sense.

enjolras
03-13-2011, 05:09 PM
USC for crying out loud... they just got hit hard for cheating and even then weren't that impressive. Of course they're in.

enjolras
03-13-2011, 05:11 PM
Just another dark day for front range sports.... god this has been the worst 5 years I've ever endured as a sports fan.

AZorange1
03-13-2011, 05:42 PM
East Coast bias? Nah, no such thing...

Go back and read post #17:thanku:

Garcia Bronco
03-13-2011, 06:10 PM
snubbed for the 4th year in-a-row

BreesLightning
03-14-2011, 02:39 AM
Oh well, atleast you guys get to see another Colorado team pounded by San Diego in the first round. You guys should be use to it...

Garcia Bronco
03-14-2011, 08:30 AM
Oh well, atleast you guys get to see another Colorado team pounded by San Diego in the first round. You guys should be use to it...

You should see this chick from San Diego I pounded last week in Colorado. :P

oubronco
03-14-2011, 08:31 AM
Don't really care who wins the Championship as long as it's not Kansas, Texas, Or especially Puke

That One Guy
03-18-2011, 12:30 AM
F'ing Louisville... very talented team with some great energy but, ****, if you can't avoid getting down by 10-15, you wont be able to win consistently.

Trailed 11-2 two nights ago, down by 16 in first half yesterday against ND, and down 12 or 14 or something tonight.

Still, game came down to one of their 3 point shooters having to hit 3 FTs to go to OT... he misses the 2nd and then accidently makes the 3rd. :o

Well... Way to crap the bed again, Louisville. Big East is not representing well from what I saw before the beer kicked in. Uconn was doing well but otherwise, seemed like another letdown year could be in store.

Missouribronc
03-20-2011, 08:44 PM
The Big East blows. What a pathetic, biased job by the NCAA Tournament committee.

Crushaholic
03-20-2011, 09:29 PM
They're ranting non-stop about the CU snub... Now I'd love for VCU and UAB to get pounded to make the point.

Not because I care about CU but I hate all the nonsense that happens in NCAAB

VCU is doing pretty good, so far. Not that I expected it, either...

ZONA
03-20-2011, 10:17 PM
I was really hoping WA would have upset NC and they almost did it. Now it's time for Zona to upset puke. Do it.

orange crusher
03-25-2011, 10:01 PM
Duke out - check, Ohio St out - check. Go Heels!

SoCalBronco
03-25-2011, 10:03 PM
Duke out - check, Ohio St out - check. Go Heels!

I agree with that. Go Heels!

oubronco
03-26-2011, 09:33 AM
Go Butler and VCU!!!

oubronco
03-26-2011, 05:01 PM
Butler wins Woohoo now come on VCU!!!

troya900
03-26-2011, 05:05 PM
Butler wins Woohoo now come on VCU!!!


Such lofty dreams.

Missouribronc
03-26-2011, 05:07 PM
U of A
U of A
U of A
U of A
U of A
U of A
U of A
U of A

orange crusher
03-26-2011, 06:22 PM
Butler wins Woohoo now come on VCU!!!

I'll go along with this for this round.

Missouribronc
03-26-2011, 06:25 PM
Dang it.

AZorange1
03-26-2011, 11:18 PM
Post #16----UConn could do it. Don't know about you guys, but everybody around here said I was nuts if I thought UConn could get to the final four.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 11:48 AM
Holy crap... turnovers and offensive fouls galore for Kansas.

OBF1
03-27-2011, 12:25 PM
Rock Chalk Jayhawks....... In Shock

bombay
03-27-2011, 01:30 PM
Go VCU! Hit your free throws down the stretch.

Missouribronc
03-27-2011, 01:35 PM
Wow.

Just wow.

OBF1
03-27-2011, 01:36 PM
Kansas totally gave the game away. missed what 13 or 14 free throws?

bombay
03-27-2011, 01:37 PM
Sweeeeeeeet.

Game.

Karenin
03-27-2011, 01:37 PM
major lulz @ kansas. it's like everybody knows they're going to choke every year, but it's still hilarious every time it happens.

Kid A
03-27-2011, 01:40 PM
KU couldn't hit the ocean. Did they make a single 3 in the second half? Were lucky to hit a free throw. Choked away the easiest path to a title game you'll ever see (if they won today, they would have played teams seeded 16, 9, 12, 11, 8 to get to the championship).

oubronco
03-27-2011, 01:41 PM
Kansas goes down like a hooker at a truck stop

HAT
03-27-2011, 01:45 PM
Haha...In one of my bar pools, we had to make picks before the play in games. I Homer pick USC to the final 4 every year in at least one pool so I've got VCU by default. #Winning.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 01:52 PM
So far the Final Four is composed of a 3, 8, 11, and either a 2 or a 4 seed.

LOL

SoCalBronco
03-27-2011, 01:55 PM
Go Heels

bombay
03-27-2011, 01:59 PM
Oh well, atleast you guys get to see another Colorado team pounded by San Diego in the first round. You guys should be use to it...

You're proud of beating Northern Colorado? Odd. Proud of all superbowl champs in sd too, I guess.

Karenin
03-27-2011, 02:01 PM
Oh well, atleast you guys get to see another Colorado team pounded by San Diego in the first round. You guys should be use to it...

Just like Chargers' fans in the NFL regular season, this schmuck puffs his chest out after a meaningless win and then disappears once the SD team pulls the inevitable choke job. See ya next season, chump.

bombay
03-27-2011, 02:02 PM
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That One Guy
03-27-2011, 02:03 PM
Go Heels

Go UK.

I started the tournament rooting for Michigan, Missouri, Louisville, and UK. I think it increases the odds of having a team to root for further into the tournament.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 02:05 PM
...

Even worse than losing to Northern Iowa.

Missouribronc
03-27-2011, 02:08 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/tcmen/en/entry?entryID=1079446

Missouribronc
03-27-2011, 02:08 PM
Even worse than losing to Northern Iowa.

I don't think it is.

Bucknell and Bradley were their worst losses.

oubronco
03-27-2011, 02:32 PM
Go Butler and VCU!!!

Woohoo

bombay
03-27-2011, 03:13 PM
Northern Iowa was a damn good team. No pros, but a bunch of seniors who were good players and understood their roles. The Bradley team they lost too was damn good, too. I think they sent a couple of guys to the NBA, including (7'1") #1 pick Patrick O'Bryant*.

I don't know **** about that Bucknell team, but VCU is on a hell of a roll.


* Marcellus Sommerville, Jeremy Couch, and Tony Bennett were three other standout players on that sweet 16 Bradley team

TDmvp
03-27-2011, 03:30 PM
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Alec(rockchalk) looks like he's taking the loss really hard
:spit:

bombay
03-27-2011, 03:36 PM
http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/CRYHAWK.gif.pagespeed.ce.0w6mxes__z.gif



Yes, and it's getting worse.

TDmvp
03-27-2011, 03:40 PM
http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/CRYHAWK.gif.pagespeed.ce.0w6mxes__z.gif



Yes, and it's getting worse.

LOL ... it almost pains me to see Rockchalk so upset ... Almost heheh

Hercules Rockefeller
03-27-2011, 04:15 PM
Go Big Blue

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 04:18 PM
GooooooOOOOOoooooo UK!

Now just keep winning. Freaking UConn got Louisville in the Big East Championship and went on to be the only Big East team to do anything. Don't let them crap on Kentucky again.

SoCalBronco
03-27-2011, 04:38 PM
Sad about the result, but it was a good game against a good team. An ACC regular season title and an Elite 8 appearance is a solid output for the Heels. Hopefully Barnes, Henson and Zeller come back next season.

OBF1
03-27-2011, 04:42 PM
Kentucky is only going to be better next year with the top rated draft class in the country this year.

My bracket has been busted.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 04:53 PM
Kentucky is only going to be better next year with the top rated draft class in the country this year.

My bracket has been busted.

That D is amazing. Last year's squad was flashy (and very good, don't get me wrong) but this team has some guys that can show up on both ends. I like to see that.

phibacka31
03-27-2011, 04:58 PM
I just won my work pool with that Kentucky win... and I'm a Tar Heel fan...ironic!
I'll just have to take the winning money to buy another NC hat:thumbsup:

Jason in LA
03-27-2011, 04:59 PM
Oh well, atleast you guys get to see another Colorado team pounded by San Diego in the first round. You guys should be use to it...

The Chargers trophy case full of Super Bowl trophies really makes Broncos fans jealous.

Jason in LA
03-27-2011, 05:07 PM
Some people have said that the Final Four should be reseeded. I've always agreed with that, and I'd rather see UConn vs. VCU and Kentucky vs. Butler, than seeing UConn vs. Kentucky and VCU vs. Butler.

Think about it. David vs. Goliath is cool. Goliath vs. Goliath is like a mega match up. But David vs. David? Yeah, I'll pass.

Sure, it sets up a Davis vs. Goliath for the title game, but I rather see two David vs. Goliath match ups in the Final Four with the potential of a Goliath vs. Goliath in the title game.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 05:18 PM
Some people have said that the Final Four should be reseeded. I've always agreed with that, and I'd rather see UConn vs. VCU and Kentucky vs. Butler, than seeing UConn vs. Kentucky and VCU vs. Butler.

Think about it. David vs. Goliath is cool. Goliath vs. Goliath is like a mega match up. But David vs. David? Yeah, I'll pass.

Sure, it sets up a Davis vs. Goliath for the title game, but I rather see two David vs. Goliath match ups in the Final Four with the potential of a Goliath vs. Goliath in the title game.

But Butler developed quite the bandwagon last year in their run. A David in the championship game wouldn't be completely wasted.

Missouribronc
03-27-2011, 05:21 PM
But Butler developed quite the bandwagon last year in their run. A David in the championship game wouldn't be completely wasted.

This is good for college basketball.

Jason in LA
03-27-2011, 05:29 PM
But Butler developed quite the bandwagon last year in their run. A David in the championship game wouldn't be completely wasted.

I agree that Butler has formed a following, but I'd still rather see them play either UConn or Kentucky in the Final Four than play VCU.

Reseeding the teams wouldn't keep a David out of the title game, but it would limit the chances of those two teams playing each other, and it would give us the best chance of seeing the top teams in the title game.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 06:09 PM
I agree that Butler has formed a following, but I'd still rather see them play either UConn or Kentucky in the Final Four than play VCU.

Reseeding the teams wouldn't keep a David out of the title game, but it would limit the chances of those two teams playing each other, and it would give us the best chance of seeing the top teams in the title game.

I agree, overall. I was just telling my wife today how I love March Madness for its excitement but it isn't necessarily to see who is the best school in the country. It's just to see who wins the tournament. In this case, we're having one of the final teams be an 8 or 11 seed when they might not be one of the two best remaining teams.

That said, I think everyone who had their team knocked out likes to root for the underdogs. An "if my team can't win it, I hope yours doesn't either" and that's what the David in the championship game gives. Also, the chance that no matter how bad the two lowest seeds play in the semi-finals, all they have to do is show up one night against Goliath and they can take him down.

For basketball, Goliath vs Goliath would be the best matchup. For the dramatics that often seem to surround our game today (and, really, draw in a lot of the casual fans), having a David probably serves them better.

Jason in LA
03-27-2011, 06:21 PM
I agree, overall. I was just telling my wife today how I love March Madness for its excitement but it isn't necessarily to see who is the best school in the country. It's just to see who wins the tournament. In this case, we're having one of the final teams be an 8 or 11 seed when they might not be one of the two best remaining teams.

That said, I think everyone who had their team knocked out likes to root for the underdogs. An "if my team can't win it, I hope yours doesn't either" and that's what the David in the championship game gives. Also, the chance that no matter how bad the two lowest seeds play in the semi-finals, all they have to do is show up one night against Goliath and they can take him down.

For basketball, Goliath vs Goliath would be the best matchup. For the dramatics that often seem to surround our game today (and, really, draw in a lot of the casual fans), having a David probably serves them better.

I like to root for the underdog too, which is why I like that Butler and VCU has made it this far. I agree that having those two teams in there adds to the dramatics.

But here is the issue. Who do you root for in the Final Four? Butler or VCU? Who is the underdog in that game? To me, those two teams playing each other is kind of boring because the underdog factor isn't there. Every game that they've played so far has had that sense of drama because they are the underdog, but now it's gone. I'd be more interested in them play UConn and Kentucky. There would be an underdog in both of those match ups. If both Butler and VCU pulled upsets, again, and played in the finals, I think that would be special. But not in the Final Four. If one of those teams made it through, then the title game would have a built in underdog. If neither team made it then we'd have that mega match up.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 06:26 PM
I like to root for the underdog too, which is why I like that Butler and VCU has made it this far. I agree that having those two teams in there adds to the dramatics.

But here is the issue. Who do you root for in the Final Four? Butler or VCU? Who is the underdog in that game? To me, those two teams playing each other is kind of boring because the underdog factor isn't there. Every game that they've played so far has had that sense of drama because they are the underdog, but now it's gone. I'd be more interested in them play UConn and Kentucky. There would be an underdog in both of those match ups. If both Butler and VCU pulled upsets, again, and played in the finals, I think that would be special. But not in the Final Four. If one of those teams made it through, then the title game would have a built in underdog. If neither team made it then we'd have that mega match up.

Very good point. I was focusing on the championship game but it does take away from the flare of the semifinal game. It almost feels like a losers bracket and a winners bracket coming together except noone lost.

bombay
03-27-2011, 07:12 PM
These teams earned their way to exactly where they are. If the more highly seeded teams aren't good enough to beat them, tough ****. It's set up precisely the way it should be. The best team in the tournament couldn't beat Kentucky. That's the way it goes. If it doesn't interest you, don't ****ing watch.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 07:15 PM
These teams earned their way to exactly where they are. If the more highly seeded teams aren't good enough to beat them, tough ****. It's set up precisely the way it should be. The best team in the tournament couldn't beat Kentucky. That's the way it goes. If it doesn't interest you, don't ****ing watch.

Wow.

Jason in LA
03-27-2011, 08:01 PM
These teams earned their way to exactly where they are. If the more highly seeded teams aren't good enough to beat them, tough ****. It's set up precisely the way it should be. The best team in the tournament couldn't beat Kentucky. That's the way it goes. If it doesn't interest you, don't ****ing watch.

Dang man, why so serious? You should have a coke and a smile and...

http://www.hark.com/clips/fmswxrwgtt-coke-and-a-smile

Jason in LA
03-27-2011, 08:27 PM
These teams earned their way to exactly where they are. If the more highly seeded teams aren't good enough to beat them, tough ****. It's set up precisely the way it should be. The best team in the tournament couldn't beat Kentucky. That's the way it goes. If it doesn't interest you, don't ****ing watch.

I'll still entertain your argument.

The way I see it there are four independent brackets. So in the Final Four, what links the West region to the East region, and what links the Southwest region to the Southeast region? Nothing really.

I would be against reseeding the brackets every round. If the 16 seed beats the 1 seed, then they get to play the 8/9 winner and if they win that they most like play the 4/5 winner, while the 2 seed could have a tougher bracket in that they may have to play the 7 seed and then the 3 seed. In that sense, you don't reseed the bracket.

But now that the regions are over, they can seed these teams any way they like without compromising the brackets. Because at this point there are no more brackets.

There have been years where one semifinal match up had drastically better teams than the other. Lets say that two No. 1s play each other, but in the other game you have a No. 4 vs. a No. 7. Well that sucks.

The way to solve that issue is to seed the Final Four teams. I don't see that as being a big deal.

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 08:31 PM
That reminds me... I hate the East/West/Southeast/Southwest breakup. Why not North/South/East/West? Why not Northeast/Northwest/Southeast/Southwest?

It's like having West Virgina and then just Virgina. Where the F did East Virginia go? North and South Dakota did it right. North and South Carolina. Otherwise there's just an inbalance and it's annoying.

HAT
03-27-2011, 08:34 PM
But here is the issue. Who do you root for in the Final Four? Butler or VCU? Who is the underdog in that game?

Hahaha...Seriously? You don't know **** about NCAAB if you think Butler has any chance whatsoever to knock off Commonwealth.

VCU will absolutely own Butler.......

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 08:38 PM
Hahaha...Seriously? You don't know **** about NCAAB if you think Butler has any chance whatsoever to knock off Commonwealth.

VCU will absolutely own Butler.......

Hopefully you're kidding in the tone.

That said, haven't people been doubting Butler enough over the last two years? As I said in another post, they may not win but you never count them out.

Jason in LA
03-27-2011, 08:40 PM
Hahaha...Seriously? You don't know **** about NCAAB if you think Butler has any chance whatsoever to knock off Commonwealth.

VCU will absolutely own Butler.......

http://www.hark.com/clips/fmswxrwgtt-coke-and-a-smile ;D

That One Guy
03-27-2011, 08:42 PM
http://www.hark.com/clips/fmswxrwgtt-coke-and-a-smile ;D

LOL

You must've hit everyone's cheerios this morning.

That One Guy
04-02-2011, 05:19 PM
Hahaha...Seriously? You don't know **** about NCAAB if you think Butler has any chance whatsoever to knock off Commonwealth.

VCU will absolutely own Butler.......

Hey, look, there's a unicorn!

Oops, did I quote a stupid post and bump this thread? Well look at that...

That One Guy
04-02-2011, 05:21 PM
I like to root for the underdog too, which is why I like that Butler and VCU has made it this far. I agree that having those two teams in there adds to the dramatics.

But here is the issue. Who do you root for in the Final Four? Butler or VCU? Who is the underdog in that game? To me, those two teams playing each other is kind of boring because the underdog factor isn't there. Every game that they've played so far has had that sense of drama because they are the underdog, but now it's gone. I'd be more interested in them play UConn and Kentucky. There would be an underdog in both of those match ups. If both Butler and VCU pulled upsets, again, and played in the finals, I think that would be special. But not in the Final Four. If one of those teams made it through, then the title game would have a built in underdog. If neither team made it then we'd have that mega match up.

Absolutely pegged the semi-final game here. I thought they both played like Davids tonight. I have no doubt UConn or UK would've owned either one of these teams tonight. They played like dog****. That they'll be in the championship game is a disservice to whoever loses the late game - presuming the late game is a quality game, of course, but it can't be any worse.

EDIT: So far there's probably more turnovers than points in this game so while they look more crisp in this game, they're still not clicking here and they're not playing insanely better than either team in the first game.

AZorange1
04-02-2011, 09:47 PM
Page 1 post # 16 and 17 BIG EAST!-----------UConn!

That One Guy
04-02-2011, 09:49 PM
Page 1 post # 16 and 17 BIG EAST!-----------UConn!

They represented well. You stood your ground. Well done.

AZorange1
04-03-2011, 12:44 AM
They represented well. You stood your ground. Well done.

Thanks, I got a bad feeling about this one though. I'm thinking that Butler does it this time. If so, gotta be happy for em'.

oubronco
04-04-2011, 07:33 PM
That was the worst half of championship basketball I've seen

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 07:37 PM
That was the worst half of championship basketball I've seen

Two pretty darn good defenses. But the shooting was pathetic.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 07:44 PM
Walker looks tired, and he admitted so Saturday night. He is spectacular to watch, although I doubt his game transfers to the NBA.

Really like the Lamb kid, he's just smooth. Reminds me of Steph Curry, but clearly he's not the shooter Curry is.

oubronco
04-04-2011, 07:53 PM
Uconn keeps going inside and its over

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 07:55 PM
Uconn keeps going inside and its over

They are too long for Butler, and as long as the refs will let them play (which I like) UConn will dominate in the paint.

Finally, Butler hits a shot there. Great defense, no fouls...low score.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 08:03 PM
If you told me earlier today that Kemba Walker would be 5 of 15 from the field and have 12 points, and UConn would have a double-digit lead, with 10 minutes to play, I would have told you that you were crazy.

Jason in LA
04-04-2011, 08:04 PM
This game sucks. Just like last year's title game. Outside of the final 2 minutes of that game, when Butler came back, it was a poorly played game.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 08:05 PM
This game sucks. Just like last year's title game. Outside of the final 2 minutes of that game, when Butler came back, it was a poorly played game.

I disagree. Poor shooting doesn't mean poor play.

That One Guy
04-04-2011, 08:07 PM
I disagree. Poor shooting doesn't mean poor play.

This one is absolutely terrible. What is Butler now, 1/23? UConn isn't much better.

Jason in LA
04-04-2011, 08:07 PM
I disagree. Poor shooting doesn't mean poor play.

However you want to put it, this game sucks. There is nothing entertaining about watching missed shots all night long.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 08:08 PM
This one is absolutely terrible. What is Butler now, 1/23? UConn isn't much better.

Again, poor shooting doesn't mean poor play.

That One Guy
04-04-2011, 08:09 PM
However you want to put it, this game sucks. There is nothing entertaining about watching missed shots all night long.

LOL

Usually I'd agree but I was starting to get a chuckle out of all those missed layups. Not enjoying the basketball but laughing at the fact that this is the national championship game and they're playing like this.

That One Guy
04-04-2011, 08:10 PM
Again, poor shooting doesn't mean poor play.

I sure as heck don't watch basketball to see them miss layups and do windsprints.

Jason in LA
04-04-2011, 08:10 PM
Again, poor shooting doesn't mean poor play.

Well the point of the game is to put the ball in the hoop. If the players fail badly at that, then it is a bad game.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 08:14 PM
Well, I guess its harder to appreciate championship level defense than championship level offense...

Jason in LA
04-04-2011, 08:14 PM
A good analogy, when I played little league baseball, a lot of kids couldn't catch a fly ball, but I could, so I was really good at center field. And my speed allowed me to run down fly balls, and get to balls in the gap, turning home runs into doubles. Because I was really fast, I was a terror on the bases. I was stealing all the time. I'd get to third base in two pitches.

But I sucked at hitting the ball, so I kind of sucked at baseball. What good was all that speed when the only way that I could get on base was by getting walked.

Same thing in this game. What good is playing fundamental basketball when you can't hit a shot? That's just not good.

Jason in LA
04-04-2011, 08:16 PM
Well, I guess its harder to appreciate championship level defense than championship level offense...

Seeing some of the shots that have been missed, I'd say that it is more of a bunch of players who can't shoot then championship level defense.

Most of the players who can score go to the NBA as soon as they can.

WolfpackGuy
04-04-2011, 08:16 PM
UG-LY

Good thing my bracket was clinched last weekend thanks to UConn's run.

:D

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 08:16 PM
A good analogy, when I played little league baseball, a lot of kids couldn't catch a fly ball, but I could, so I was really good at center field. And my speed allowed me to run down fly balls, and get to balls in the gap, turning home runs into doubles. Because I was really fast, I was a terror on the bases. I was stealing all the time. I'd get to third base in two pitches.

But I sucked at hitting the ball, so I kind of sucked at baseball. What good was all that speed when the only way that I could get on base was by getting walked.

Same thing in this game. What good is playing fundamental basketball when you can't hit a shot? That's just not good.

Was there a six-foot, eight dude contesting every shot you took, when you were only six-foot, two?

rugbythug
04-04-2011, 08:17 PM
Good analogy

That One Guy
04-04-2011, 08:17 PM
Well, I guess its harder to appreciate championship level defense than championship level offense...

Defense? They're missing the shots from 4 feet away. D isn't stepping up and O is choking. If you love watching rebounds, this would be the game for you. At least if it were close, it'd have the competitive factor working for it. 10 point game and an inability for either team to score... ugh.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 08:17 PM
Most of the players who can score go to the NBA as soon as they can.

A pretty bad year to use that argument. Kemba Walker is a junior and Jimmer Fredette is a senior.

broncosteven
04-04-2011, 08:18 PM
The one day I watch college basketball all year and it confirms my opinion that I am not missing anything.

That One Guy
04-04-2011, 08:19 PM
Seeing some of the shots that have been missed, I'd say that it is more of a bunch of players who can't shoot then championship level defense.

Most of the players who can score go to the NBA as soon as they can.

Beat me to it. This is as much a defensive struggle as an NFL game when the QB is missing his guys on screen plays. Yeah, the score may be low but it doesn't have the elements you look for in a defensive struggle either.

That One Guy
04-04-2011, 08:24 PM
Over/Under on this game was 132. They're currently at 92. Ugh.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 08:25 PM
Greatest run ever? 11 straight games, 5 to win the Big East and 6 to win the NCAA Championship.

brncs_fan
04-04-2011, 08:34 PM
Second place!

I'll take it considering I watched a grand total of maybe one college basketball game this year.

Jason in LA
04-04-2011, 08:42 PM
A pretty bad year to use that argument. Kemba Walker is a junior and Jimmer Fredette is a senior.

Those are just two players. There are a lot of players who could still be in college lighting it up but instead they are in the NBA.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 08:44 PM
Those are just two players. There are a lot of players who could still be in college lighting it up but instead they are in the NBA.

Meh, the shear math of it proves you wrong, but whatever...

Jason in LA
04-04-2011, 09:00 PM
Meh, the shear math of it proves you wrong, but whatever...

I took a quick look at the 2008 and 2009 drafts. Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, Michael Beasley, DeMar DeRozan, Jrue Holiday, James Harden, and Tyreke Evans could have all played college basketball this year.

Imagine Rose and Love as seniors. Mayo would be a senior and DeRozan and junior for USC.

Naw, college basketball doesn't need anything like that.

Missouribronc
04-04-2011, 09:03 PM
I took a quick look at the 2008 and 2009 drafts. Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, Michael Beasley, DeMar DeRozan, Jrue Holiday, James Harden, and Tyreke Evans could have all played college basketball this year.

Imagine Rose and Love as seniors. Mayo would be a senior and DeRozan and junior for USC.

Naw, college basketball doesn't need anything like that.

It is what it is. To bitch about the very few players who are NBA ready before reaching four years in college in relation to a poor shooting effort by a losing team in a championship game is a little out there.

I'm guessing you're not a big fan of NCAA basketball to begin with.

There are at least 4,800 NCAA basketball players. There are 450 NBA players. Do that math. Not all the scorers are going to the NBA.

AZorange1
04-04-2011, 09:05 PM
Greatest run ever? 11 straight games, 5 to win the Big East and 6 to win the NCAA Championship.

Could be--I really need to say this, but go back to post 16 and 17. This game showed Big East defense, play in the paint and as far as Butler's bad shooting, a lot of that is nerves when your getting beat up.

Jason in LA
04-04-2011, 09:20 PM
It is what it is. To b**** about the very few players who are NBA ready before reaching four years in college in relation to a poor shooting effort by a losing team in a championship game is a little out there.

I'm guessing you're not a big fan of NCAA basketball to begin with.

There are at least 4,800 NCAA basketball players. There are 450 NBA players. Do that math. Not all the scorers are going to the NBA.

Yes, there are a lot more college players than NBA players. But any of them who can score at a really high level are not sticking around. Sorry, but there aren't a whole lot of great scorers in college. Just because there are more than 4,000 college players than NBA players does not mean that there are more great scorers in college.

You're right, I'm not a NCAA basketball fan. It's not very good.

Like, NCAA football is a lower level than the NFL, but it's still great. There are a lot of great players in college football, and on the highest levels, it's just as watchable as the NFL. The same can't be said when comparing NCAA basketball to the NBA. The NBA is just better.

Now I don't think the NBA is as good as it used to be because too many players skipped college, or now are only going for one year. College basketball was pretty much a developmental league for the NBA, so the NBA used to get more developed players, just like the NFL is getting now. But today the NBA is getting all these under developed players and it has been a negative for the league. Both college basketball and the NBA have been hurt by it.

Garcia Bronco
04-04-2011, 09:31 PM
The dude on cbs 4 just said that. "They built a new stadium in Houston thanks to Butler and all the bricks." Its funny, but its messed up.

That One Guy
04-04-2011, 09:50 PM
The dude on cbs 4 just said that. "They built a new stadium in Houston thanks to Butler and all the bricks." Its funny, but its messed up.

LOL

I've never seen a team miss so many layups. Either Butler was fatigued or had money on UConn but... I'm not certain someone could miss 20+ in a row from so close if they tried.

extralife
04-04-2011, 11:11 PM
Butler's performance was so bad it was an affront to all the teams they beat, which I am now just going to assume were secretly full of middle schoolers

TonyR
04-05-2011, 05:51 AM
The great thing and the terrible thing about the NCAA tourney is that the best teams don't always win. The upsets are fun but in the end they dilute the product. It would have been much more fun to watch KU and Ohio St., for example, in the final instead of these two teams neither of which was remotely the best in the country this year. But it is what it is. Sometimes it results in a fun final, this year it resulted in a dud.