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phibacka31
03-08-2011, 04:38 PM
I thought this was a decent article. Not surprising, but they plan on meeting with Dareus, Fairley, and Miller this week!:strong:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ea8e30/article/fox-preaches-patience-predicts-return-to-glory-for-broncos?module=HP_headlines

Mogulseeker
03-08-2011, 04:41 PM
Dammit. It's not everyday that a guy like Patrick Peterson comes along. He's the best player in the draft and he'll be there by the time we select.

I like Darius, too, but I like more bang for the buck.

phibacka31
03-08-2011, 04:43 PM
Dammit. It's not everyday that a guy like Patrick Peterson comes along. He's the best player in the draft and he'll be there by the time we select.

I like Darius, too, but I like more bang for the buck.

Agree X10, still glad they're talking to all of the possiblities

footstepsfrom#27
03-08-2011, 04:48 PM
I think when Elway looks at Peterson and sees a guy as big as he himself is playing CB who can move like that he's gonne be sold. Then snag Marvin Austin or Phil Taylor later and we might even be lucky enough go find our TE in the 3rd.

OBF1
03-08-2011, 04:56 PM
I can see a smoke screen when it is put right in front of me... Mentioning those 3 players by name means we are going Peterson. Been there, done that before with our Broncos.

Houshyamama
03-08-2011, 05:02 PM
I'm not sure we need much of a smoke screen at the #2 spot. I really don't think Peterson is going #1 overall

Broncoman13
03-08-2011, 05:03 PM
Actually CBF I think Fairley is the player they like the most but have concerns regarding him and for good reason. If Fairley does anything to mitigate those concerns or at least make the Broncos feel comfortable that they will not affect his ability to be highly successful... he will be our pick!

footstepsfrom#27
03-08-2011, 05:07 PM
Actually CBF I think Fairley is the player they like the most but have concerns regarding him and for good reason. If Fairley does anything to mitigate those concerns or at least make the Broncos feel comfortable that they will not affect his ability to be highly successful... he will be our pick!
Out of curiosity, how would Fairley mitigate concerns?

SonOfLe-loLang
03-08-2011, 05:07 PM
Actually CBF I think Fairley is the player they like the most but have concerns regarding him and for good reason. If Fairley does anything to mitigate those concerns or at least make the Broncos feel comfortable that they will not affect his ability to be highly successful... he will be our pick!

Id be more than fine with this...and if we grabbed a paea/taylor in the 2nd? Boner!

KO5K
03-08-2011, 05:13 PM
Out of curiosity, how would Fairley mitigate concerns?

Weight.
Technique.
One year wonder?
Suggestions he takes plays off.
Dirty? (Good or bad?)

Mogulseeker
03-08-2011, 05:14 PM
Weight.
Technique.
One year wonder?
Suggestions he takes plays off.
Dirty? (Good or bad?)

We signed John Fox, not Jeff Fischer. Ha!

footstepsfrom#27
03-08-2011, 05:16 PM
Weight.
Technique.
One year wonder?
Suggestions he takes plays off.
Dirty? (Good or bad?)
He would mitigate concerns by listing them? ???

Garcia Bronco
03-08-2011, 05:21 PM
Guys... this is SOP and signals absolutely nothing.

TheReverend
03-08-2011, 05:26 PM
It's not even signs or signals. They're talking to the guys as they hit their pro days. LSU's doesn't start until March 15th. They'll be talking to Peterson then.

footstepsfrom#27
03-08-2011, 05:36 PM
It's not even signs or signals. They're talking to the guys as they hit their pro days. LSU's doesn't start until March 15th. They'll be talking to Peterson then.
No...no I'm sure it signals...something or another. ;D

epicSocialism4tw
03-08-2011, 06:15 PM
Glad to see their interviewing Miller too. That dude could be big time.

crush17
03-08-2011, 06:23 PM
If they don't select Dareus at #2 I will be bummed.

footstepsfrom#27
03-08-2011, 06:30 PM
If they don't select Dareus at #2 I will be bummed.
Consider the possibility they could trade down and still get him. If Carolina takes Fairley and Denver trades out of the #2 pick with someone like Arizona, it's possible. Cam Newton is the wild card here. If someone falls in love with his athleticism and his arm, they might offer enough to make it worth while to move down. Buffalo probably takes Peterson 3rd and Cincy would probably want Green, then it's between Bowers, Miller and Dareus maybe...we could conceivably pick up at least another 2nd maybe more. I'm leery of doing that more than a few spots though, and only if they don't want Peterson, who I think is gone by 3.

footstepsfrom#27
03-08-2011, 06:37 PM
Id be more than fine with this...and if we grabbed a paea/taylor in the 2nd? Boner!
Pae was considered as high as 8th on some boards I' believe. He's also tweeked his knee recently so he might slip a bit. I'm totally unsure where Taylor goes. I think he could go anywhere from 15th to 50th.

rugbythug
03-08-2011, 07:07 PM
Dammit. It's not everyday that a guy like Patrick Peterson comes along. He's the best player in the draft and he'll be there by the time we select.

I like Darius, too, but I like more bang for the buck.
This is said every year.

epicSocialism4tw
03-08-2011, 07:10 PM
This is said every year.

Its funny because last year it was widely prognosticated that Denver would take Thomas or Tebow, and they followed script and took both.

BroncoMan4ever
03-08-2011, 07:20 PM
if we take Peterson or Fairley and Dareus is on the board still i am going to drive down to dove valley after the draft and kick Fox, Xanders and Elway all in the nads. i will seriously want to kick my childhood hero(Elway) in the balls if they don't take Dareus if he is available or worse if they take Peterson at all.

BroncoMan4ever
03-08-2011, 07:22 PM
Dammit. It's not everyday that a guy like Patrick Peterson comes along. He's the best player in the draft and he'll be there by the time we select.

I like Darius, too, but I like more bang for the buck.

if you want bang for your buck, take the best player at the position that directly impacts the overall play of the rest of the defense. and sadly that position isn't CB it is DL

listopencil
03-08-2011, 08:57 PM
Its funny because last year it was widely prognosticated that Denver would take Thomas or Tebow, and they followed script and took both.

I think it's kind of funny and I think it's kind of sad. The drafts where we were dying were the best we ever had. I do think it's kind of funny that everyone in the known universe was saying that we would grab Tebow. Then we get Thomas instead. Then we trade back into the 1st to grab Tebow anyway. Also kind of sad that everyone "knew" we were going to do it. WTF is up with that?

listopencil
03-08-2011, 08:58 PM
This is said every year.

Well...yeah. There is a draft every year.

zdoor
03-08-2011, 09:18 PM
It's not even signs or signals. They're talking to the guys as they hit their pro days. LSU's doesn't start until March 15th. They'll be talking to Peterson then.

This

epicSocialism4tw
03-08-2011, 09:25 PM
I think it's kind of funny and I think it's kind of sad. The drafts where we were dying were the best we ever had. I do think it's kind of funny that everyone in the known universe was saying that we would grab Tebow. Then we get Thomas instead. Then we trade back into the 1st to grab Tebow anyway. Also kind of sad that everyone "knew" we were going to do it. WTF is up with that?

This board was Hi-larious when the Broncos traded back into that pick.

Everyone knew it was Tebow. I doubt that there will ever be another moment like that here again. Im not sure what the traffic was like, but in the chat room it was pure pandemonium. I saw what it looked like to see the weeping and gnashing of teeth juxtaposed with pure joy in the same space at the same time. It was wild!

schaaf
03-08-2011, 09:35 PM
if we take Peterson or Fairley and Dareus is on the board still i am going to drive down to dove valley after the draft and kick Fox, Xanders and Elway all in the nads. i will seriously want to kick my childhood hero(Elway) in the balls if they don't take Dareus if he is available or worse if they take Peterson at all.

This must be because you are a legitimate NFL scout and have proven yourself on draft day. You know exactly what's best for the team, no one else in the front office does... Sooner or later they will be forced to recognize your talent evaluation and you will be the next General Manager of the Denver Broncos. You my friend are a boss.

BroncoMan4ever
03-09-2011, 12:43 AM
This must be because you are a legitimate NFL scout and have proven yourself on draft day. You know exactly what's best for the team, no one else in the front office does... Sooner or later they will be forced to recognize your talent evaluation and you will be the next General Manager of the Denver Broncos. You my friend are a boss.

yes it is true, and i appreciate you pointing out my superiority so that i did not have to do it myself. lol

when someone else points out your awesomeness it is a good thing

if you do it yourself, you look like a dick

so again i thank you! lol

Shananahan
03-09-2011, 01:01 AM
I think it's kind of funny and I think it's kind of sad. The drafts where we were dying were the best we ever had. I do think it's kind of funny that everyone in the known universe was saying that we would grab Tebow. Then we get Thomas instead. Then we trade back into the 1st to grab Tebow anyway. Also kind of sad that everyone "knew" we were going to do it. WTF is up with that?
I don't think it's sad at all, and really don't understand why it would ever be seen that way. The fact that everybody else supposedly knew who Denver wanted can only make the trading and subsequent drafting of Thomas and Tebow that much more impressive. At worst, they were just in the right place at the right time and made all the right trades to get two guys nobody else wanted. At best, they perfectly executed each trade both down and up in order to land the two players they were after despite other teams targeting them as well. Stuff like that gives me hope for our front office.

If you must use the word 'sad' in regard to trades made on draft day, however, I can think a fairly recent year in which it might apply.

epicSocialism4tw
03-09-2011, 01:13 AM
I don't think it's sad at all, and really don't understand why it would ever be seen that way. The fact that everybody else supposedly knew who Denver wanted can only make the trading and subsequent drafting of Thomas and Tebow that much more impressive. At worst, they were just in the right place at the right time and made all the right trades to get two guys nobody else wanted. At best, they perfectly executed each trade both down and up in order to land the two players they were after despite other teams targeting them as well. Stuff like that gives me hope for our front office.

If you must use the word 'sad' in regard to trades made on draft day, however, I can think a fairly recent year in which it might apply.

It did look like Tebow would have been gone a few picks down the line.

Cito Pelon
03-10-2011, 10:42 AM
I think the big deal about that article is the BBT is putting in a lot of hours to make this a good draft. I think they're very excited about the challenge of making this a kickass team again.

bowtown
03-10-2011, 11:13 AM
I think the big deal about that article is the BBT is putting in a lot of hours to make this a good draft. I think they're very excited about the challenge of making this a kickass team again.

As opposed to those other lazy teams who feel that the draft and team building are overrated? Kind of just a dart board affair?

All teams spend a lot of time, energy and resources ensuring that their draft is good. Not sure why it's exciting until we actually see their execution.

underrated29
03-10-2011, 11:32 AM
I think all you PP people are going to be on suicide watch after we do not select him.




Really the ONLY way I see it that we take PP is if we trade down with some team to get more picks and by the time we finally make our selection, fairley, dareus, bowers, and quinn are gone; then we will take him. But honestly, I think that is our only shot. And it is a looooooooooooooooong shot.

Cito Pelon
03-10-2011, 11:51 AM
As opposed to those other lazy teams who feel that the draft and team building are overrated? Kind of just a dart board affair?

All teams spend a lot of time, energy and resources ensuring that their draft is good. Not sure why it's exciting until we actually see their execution.

I think there's more energy from the BBT than we've seen for a long time, and also more of a cohesive effort.

Shanny was like, yawn, "we just have to add one or two more pieces" for year after year. Then Josh came in and ran ramshackle, but left some good pieces in place on offense.

There's a good chance the D can get built this draft.

epicSocialism4tw
03-10-2011, 11:55 AM
I think there's more energy from the BBT than we've seen for a long time, and also more of a cohesive effort.

Shanny was like, yawn, "we just have to add one or two more pieces" for year after year. Then Josh came in and ran ramshackle, but left some good pieces in place on offense.

There's a good chance the D can get built this draft.

They have also made information available to the fans as soon as they have it...basically bypassing the media with major news. It helps that its The Duke who breaks it.

I think that management just seems more accessible, more confident. Maybe theyre being naive, maybe theyre sewing good networking seeds with other managers. Maybe a little of both.

listopencil
03-10-2011, 12:27 PM
I don't think it's sad at all, and really don't understand why it would ever be seen that way. The fact that everybody else supposedly knew who Denver wanted can only make the trading and subsequent drafting of Thomas and Tebow that much more impressive. At worst, they were just in the right place at the right time and made all the right trades to get two guys nobody else wanted. At best, they perfectly executed each trade both down and up in order to land the two players they were after despite other teams targeting them as well. Stuff like that gives me hope for our front office.

If you must use the word 'sad' in regard to trades made on draft day, however, I can think a fairly recent year in which it might apply.

I think it is sad that so many sources seemed to know who we wanted. There was tremendous Tebow To The Broncos hype on draft day. It was ridiculous. That really shouldn't happen. I wouldn't count on that happening again though. McD doesn't value draft picks, only players. There is some good and bad in that approach. But it doesn't apply to us anymore.

underrated29
03-10-2011, 12:33 PM
I think it is sad that so many sources seemed to know who we wanted. There was tremendous Tebow To The Broncos hype on draft day. It was ridiculous. That really shouldn't happen. I wouldn't count on that happening again though. McD doesn't value draft picks, only players. There is some good and bad in that approach. But it doesn't apply to us anymore.



Well remember from the tebow documentary that they were saying that each and every team from like 18-30 had received a call from the broncos about trading back into the first round. It is pretty hard to keep a secret when over HALF of the NFL knows what your intentions are.

Yet we still pulled it off.

listopencil
03-10-2011, 12:36 PM
Well remember from the tebow documentary that they were saying that each and every team from like 18-30 had received a call from the broncos about trading back into the first round. It is pretty hard to keep a secret when over HALF of the NFL knows what your intentions are.

Yet we still pulled it off.

Yeah, but was that before or after our first pick? I don't remember.