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Fusionfrontman
03-06-2011, 05:43 PM
I am an avid autograph/memorbilia collector and recently purchased a signed Elway 'stat' jersey from Big Bad sports Cards. It looks great, but it was advertised as having a John Elway Hologram AND JSA COA. It only has the hologram. I'm not familiar with the hologram but I usually tend to feel more comofortable with items that have a third party authenticator (JSA/PSA). The guy says I can return it but I don't want to have to go through the hassle unless I feel don't feel comofrtable that this is the real thing.

So I wanted some advice from fellow collectors. How much weight does an Elway Hologram hold?

phillybroncosnut
03-06-2011, 06:22 PM
Can you post a pic of the auto? The Holo never meant much to me. Not sure how hard it is to counterfiet them

phillybroncosnut
03-06-2011, 06:27 PM
One thing I will say, never buy an Elway auto unless it comes with a Mounted Memories Coa..... Thats who he signs for. That said, there are occasions where you can have an Elway auto that isnt through MM. I have a signed Jersey that I got from a show John was at in Edison NJ. That COA is through an authenticater that ran the show. If Im buying though, it has to be a MM COA

Fusionfrontman
03-06-2011, 06:28 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/JOHN-ELWAY-SIGNED-AUTO-DENVER-BRONCOS-STAT-JERSEY-JSA_W0QQitemZ220695279098QQcategoryZ27277QQcmdZVie wItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26it u%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7 556711789993906338

Agreed on the holo part. The auto looks consistent with other Elway autos I've seen/have.

Fusionfrontman
03-06-2011, 06:29 PM
I may be wrong, but I don't think Elway has an exclusive deal with MM anymore. I looked at their site and he isn't on it anymore.

Mogulseeker
03-06-2011, 06:50 PM
Doesn't Elway not sign Broncos gear anymore?

bowtown
03-06-2011, 08:46 PM
Doesn't Elway not sign Broncos gear anymore?

Depends on whether your kid cuts the line.

TerrElway
03-06-2011, 09:29 PM
I've got a signed super bowl football. One of I think 500. Got all the paperwork that authenticates it too. That worth anything?

broncocalijohn
03-07-2011, 12:00 AM
I've got a signed super bowl football. One of I think 500. Got all the paperwork that authenticates it too. That worth anything?

Probably $10 but I will give you $20 for it.

Fusionfrontman
03-07-2011, 10:49 AM
Seller says he will refund. Not sure if I want to go through the hassle but I want to be sure this thing is legit. They got it from a private signing, as per all of their stuff. Ugh

Mr. Elway
03-07-2011, 12:07 PM
Major red flag. You already know the seller fibbed about the authentication. Get a refund and look elsewhere, you don't want to be wondering if the thing is fake every time you look at it.

broncosteven
03-07-2011, 12:28 PM
My wife made an order from the old Mile High Stadium store back in 1998 for my birthday. In the shipment at the bottom of the box was a picture of John vs the Bungles and it had his signature on it. It was just at the bottom of the box in no envelope, kind of like it either fell in there or they were just copies they had given out at a game and were giving away.

Did anyone else remember getting something like that or seeing it somewhere? It was a great picture so I framed it anyway but there was no card or anything with it and nothing on the packing list.

DomCasual
03-07-2011, 02:58 PM
Major red flag. You already know the seller fibbed about the authentication. Get a refund and look elsewhere, you don't want to be wondering if the thing is fake every time you look at it.

I bolded the key. If he is offering a refund, take him up on it. I have a bunch of signed Elway stuff. One of the things I have is a signed Stanford helmet. The signature doesn't look like the others. I'm pretty sure it's fake. I should just trash it, but I paid a lot for it. I just put it towards the ceiling, so no one focuses on it. It bugs me all the time, though. Eventually, I'll do something about it. I wish I had at the time. It came from a reputable dealer, and I know he would have taken it back, if I would have returned it in timely manner.

vancejohnson82
03-07-2011, 03:04 PM
WHen I was 8 years old, I sent Elway a letter (it was like 2 pages) a picture of me in my hometown #7 football jersey and an Elway card

he sent it back with an autograph and a letter that said "Thanks for being a fan. We'll get that Super Bowl eventually"....awesome memory

the auto looks exactly like the one on the jersey

TerrElway
03-07-2011, 03:27 PM
Probably $10 but I will give you $20 for it.

Lemme think on that one a minute...ummm...no.

It has to be worth at least a tank of gas.

broncosteven
03-07-2011, 03:55 PM
Lemme think on that one a minute...ummm...no.

It has to be worth at least a tank of gas.

$100 bucks seems steep!

Mountain Bronco
03-07-2011, 04:21 PM
I have an autograph from Mr. Elway on a bar coster (only thing I could get to sign at the time). It is nice to know it is authentic because I saw him sign it.

Fusionfrontman
03-07-2011, 07:03 PM
I'm taking the guy up on the refund. The auto looks legit, and it has the hologram, but ultimatley the key phrase is that it WILL bother me everytime I look at it. Not because it is real or isn't real, but because I don't have 100% conviction that it IS real and authenticated by a third party. On a side note, I'm still looking for this same jersey for a good price. I'm possibly going to win an auction on a Mickey Mantle ball from steiner acution. (that site is SO addicting. )

mwill07
03-07-2011, 08:21 PM
I have an Elway autographed rookie card. Autograph doesn't really look like the one above, and it's in ball-point pen.

I know it's authentic though, because he signed it for me at training camp in Greeley when I was like 12.

Probably my most valued possession.

TerrElway
03-07-2011, 09:26 PM
[QUOTE=broncosteven;3132235]$100 bucks seems steep![/QUOTE

$100? I want to fill my car not my lawn mower!

ghostofjosh
03-08-2011, 07:09 AM
i was big into collecting for a long time,but been out for a while last 5-6 years...my understanding was Elway signed next to nothing..beware

Mountain Bronco
03-08-2011, 08:58 AM
i was big into collecting for a long time,but been out for a while last 5-6 years...my understanding was Elway signed next to nothing..beware

I had to bribe him with Kettle One on the rocks.

OABB
03-08-2011, 09:27 AM
I have an orange signed jersey. How much is that worth? Anyone? It's real.

Slade
03-08-2011, 09:39 AM
I have an autographed orange Jersey that he made out "To Ryan, a diehard Bronco fan." So I know he signed it and the autograph looks the same as yours.

bowtown
03-08-2011, 09:43 AM
I have a napkin that David Treadwell signed for me. Anyone know what that's worth?

I'm thinking it's not good for more than about 35.

maven
03-08-2011, 12:11 PM
I am an avid autograph/memorbilia collector and recently purchased a signed Elway 'stat' jersey from Big Bad sports Cards. It looks great, but it was advertised as having a John Elway Hologram AND JSA COA. It only has the hologram. I'm not familiar with the hologram but I usually tend to feel more comofortable with items that have a third party authenticator (JSA/PSA). The guy says I can return it but I don't want to have to go through the hassle unless I feel don't feel comofrtable that this is the real thing.

So I wanted some advice from fellow collectors. How much weight does an Elway Hologram hold?

It's hard to trust those. From my collecting experience, I wouldn't buy it. I don't trust them.


Anyway, since you're a collector these were my favorite cards back in the day. It was the only one at the time, and ahead of it's time, to offer autos in packs. They're not worth anywhere near as the new card autos, but I always thought they were cool.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1991-Pro-Line-Portraits-John-Elway-Auto-Proline-/140510447199?pt=US_Football&hash=item20b713465f

EDIT: Here's a cool one for Ali:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1992-PRO-LINE-PORTRAITS-AUTO-MUHAMMAD-ALI-SP-CHAMPION-/380321066541?pt=US_Football&hash=item588ce6ee2d

Best Bronco QB ever:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOMMY-MADDOX-1992-Pro-Line-Portraits-Autograph-Auto-/220660349489?pt=US_Football&hash=item336061ba31

Circle Orange
03-08-2011, 09:32 PM
I have an orange signed jersey. How much is that worth? Anyone? It's real.

You might look on Ebay under "DENVER BRONCO MEMORABILIA" and do some comparative pricing. http://scosoft.com/s/n/44748dea.gif

OABB
03-08-2011, 10:43 PM
You might look on Ebay under "DENVER BRONCO MEMORABILIA" and do some comparative pricing. http://scosoft.com/s/n/44748dea.gif

The Internet is for the mane and youporn only. I don't have time between beat sessions to do research. That's what you guys are for.