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Rascal
03-02-2011, 06:54 AM
Just a few highlights:

* Eight federal agencies oversee 80 programs to provide “transportation for the transportation disadvantaged.” The GAO could not determined a cost estimate for these programs because the agencies “often do not separately track transportation costs from other program costs.” However, 23 of these programs were allotted $1.7 billion in 2009.

* Two separate bureaus within the State Department received close to $80 billion in 2010 for “Arms Control and Nonproliferation.” The reports found significant redundancy, noting that a guiding document to outline the role and responsibilities of these bureaus “has never been drafted and approved.”

* The Department of Transportation funds more than 100 “surface transportation” programs overseen by five individual agencies (and 6,000 employees) at an annual cost of nearly $60 billion. According to the report: “The current approach to surface transportation was established in 1956 to build the Interstate Highway System, but has not evolved to reflect current priorities in transportation planning.”

* Federal data centers, which grew in number from 432 in 1998 to more than 2,000 in 2010, cost up to $450 million annually. The federal government could save between $150 billion and $200 billion over the next decade simply by consolidating these centers.

* Twenty federal agencies runs 56 programs designed to promote “financial literacy,” but, ironically enough, no one has any idea how much these programs actually cost, because “most federal agencies do not have an estimate for spending on ‘financial literacy’ per se.”

* Nine federal agencies operate 47 job-training programs, 44 of which overlap with at least one other program. These programs cost $18 billion in 2009, but GAO found that due to their duplicative nature, “little is known about [their] effectiveness.

* Ten agencies oversee 82 distinct programs on “teacher quality” at an annual cost of more than $4 billion. The report discovered that “there is no government wide strategy to minimize fragmentation, overlap or duplication among these many programs.”

* Fifteen federal agencies administer over 30 food-related laws to the tune of $1.6 billion annually. GAO discovered that “seafood oversight,” normally performed by the FDA, had been split by recent legislation that assigned responsibility for monitoring catfish to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

* Domestic ethanol tax credits, totaling close to $6 billion, are “largely unneeded today to ensure demand for domestic ethanol production.”

* More than 170 tax expenditures — in the form of tax exclusions, credits, deductions, deferrals, and preferential tax rates — account for almost $1 trillion.

* At least five departments, eight agencies, and more than two dozen presidential appointees have been tasked with coordinating an effective defense again a biological terror attack, at a cost of $6.5 billion. However, the report concludes: “There is no national plan . . . and the United States lacks the technical and operational capabilities required for an adequate response.”

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Why did it take 235 years for this to happen?

This type of analysis should be a regular requirement.

Smiling Assassin27
03-02-2011, 08:03 AM
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf

This report barely scratches the surface and is by no means comprehensive. $200B doesn't sound like much, but the multiple year savings will certainly add up. Again, with no entitlement reform, these cuts will be substantive but not significant. But hell, may as well waste minimal effort in picking the low hanging fruit.

BroncoLifer
03-02-2011, 08:21 AM
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf

This report barely scratches the surface and is by no means comprehensive. $200B doesn't sound like much, but the multiple year savings will certainly add up.

$200B sounds like a lot to me --- roughly $650 for every American. Like you say, good place to start.

W*GS
03-02-2011, 08:32 AM
Compare the GAO list with what the GOP wants to destroy.

Not a lot of overlap.

The GOP is just the party of autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. They're not interested in making government leaner and more efficient - they merely want to assure that the government continues to be servile to the uber-rich, and to chum the water for their anti-science, anti-government, anti-tax teabagger base.

Smiling Assassin27
03-02-2011, 10:22 AM
Compare the GAO list with what the GOP wants to destroy.

Not a lot of overlap.

The GOP is just the party of autocrats, theocrats and plutocrats. They're not interested in making government leaner and more efficient - they merely want to assure that the government continues to be servile to the uber-rich, and to chum the water for their anti-science, anti-government, anti-tax teabagger base.

This report just came out. The would-be cuts on it are in addition to what Republicans want to cut (and many Democrats, which you probably should acknowledge since it's you that made this partisan). Repubs also want to deal with entitlements but get a lot of push back from a certain segment of the Democratic party as well.

I assume you have statements or the platform of the Republican party that back up what you are saying about their intentions?

W*GS
03-02-2011, 10:56 AM
Repubs also want to deal with entitlements but get a lot of push back from a certain segment of the Democratic party as well.

Republicans *don't* want to deal with entitlements - why do you suppose that SS/Medicare/Medicaid/DoD are off the GOP hit list of government programs?

I assume you have statements or the platform of the Republican party that back up what you are saying about their intentions?

Remember their hit list that came out a couple weeks back? 'Nuff said.

The "GOP" [actually, PAT (plutocrats, autocrats and theocrats) party] isn't interested in fixing government or the budget - they want to lay waste to the parts that they don't like ideologically. Period.

Boomhauer
03-03-2011, 12:21 AM
snips
* Eight federal agencies oversee 80 programs...
* Two separate bureaus within the State Department...
* Federal data centers, which grew in number from 432 in 1998 to more than 2,000 in 2010...
* Twenty federal agencies runs 56 programs...
* Nine federal agencies operate 47 job-training programs...
* Ten agencies oversee 82 distinct programs...
* Fifteen federal agencies administer over 30 food-related laws...
* At least five departments, eight agencies, and more than two dozen presidential appointees...
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Why did it take 235 years for this to happen?
This type of analysis should be a regular requirement.

While entitlments must be addressed, another major issue is the shear size and redundancy of the Fed Gov, especially among management and committies. Toyota and GM both slashed their management structure to reduce cost(GM) and increase effectiveness(both), so why hasn't our government? The above, small examples are a nice start, but we should be looking at eliminating or combining entire agencies/departments to clear a huge swath of red tape and dead weight.
What do you guys think about these consolidations and do you have any?


EPA: Has become a sham agency, interested in political whim instead of science. While its research and function is essential in an industrialized nation, this should be rolled into the Department of Agriculture. This would not only combine research programs and funding, but environmental planning and preservation.

NASA: Since there hasn't been a drive for human exploration in space for 40yrs and Obama is trying his best to kill it perminently, it's time to roll NASA into the National Science Foundation. Since the NSF lacks any form of leadership and funds only political interests/agendas, while NASA has alot of ongoing research and agreements with other agencies, mostly NASA heads should take key roles.

Commerce Department: Split with the Labor Department 1913 and now includes many scientific functions, including National Ocianic and Atmospheric Administration. I'd say it's time it was disolved back into the Labor Department and NASA/National Science Foundation.

State Department and DHS: The biggest cesspools of corruption and atrocities in the United States must be dismantled with domestic programs moved to Justice Department and most forign operations, Border enforcement and Coast Guard moved to DoD. DHS created in 2002 would no longer exists. The State's bureaus of Political Affairs, Economic/Agri, Democracy/Global Affairs and Diplomatic Secret Services would remain, along with Secret Service from DHS, as the only functions of the State Department.

Health and Human Services: Split from the Social Security Administration in 1995, but it's time to put them back together. Nothing seperates their function (welfare/retirement/healthcare) other than age. I'd call this new department the Socialist Services Department.
Housing and Urban Develpment: Roll this into the new SSD as it plans for and provides roofs for that income group, though their policy R&D office should move to Labor.
Veterans Affairs: Also joins the new SSD and by joining Medicare/caid and new Fed/State employee healthcare, can provide mass savings to a government-payed program. Financial benefits and programs intertwine with former HUD and welfare programs, but care of monuments and cemetaries moves to DoD.

Education Department: Goodbye. They only provide a fraction of education funding and their testing system/requirments could easliy be absorbed by another department.

Pseudofool
03-03-2011, 12:52 AM
Good thing our corporate neighbors are paving the way for humanity to be beautiful while this evil crap happens.

While I agree our public efforts to make things right are pitiful (and I do!), it does not mean that such public efforts are in vain (even if now they might seem to be). The question that should always haunt moral creatures is: if not us than who? if not now than when? Let's fight the good fight, and let's do it now.

TailgateNut
03-03-2011, 03:46 AM
This report just came out. The would-be cuts on it are in addition to what Republicans want to cut (and many Democrats, which you probably should acknowledge since it's you that made this partisan). Repubs also want to deal with entitlements but get a lot of push back from a certain segment of the Democratic party as well.

I assume you have statements or the platform of the Republican party that back up what you are saying about their intentions?


I don't need the weather channel to tell me it's raining if my head gets wet when I go for a walk.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
03-03-2011, 06:55 AM
This report barely scratches the surface and is by no means comprehensive.

You can say that again.

It doesn't even touch corporate welfare.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
03-03-2011, 06:58 AM
Good thing our corporate neighbors are paving the way for humanity to be beautiful while this evil crap happens.


Yep.

Times have never been better for these robber barons - they are not being asked to share in ANY of the sacrifices that are necessary for this country to recover.