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LonghornBronco
02-28-2011, 10:10 AM
With the #36 selection of the 2011 NFL Draft your Denver Broncos select?

Just wanted to spark some conversation about players projected to go in this area, and to more or less educate myself on the prospects...

spdirty
02-28-2011, 10:14 AM
Kyle Rudolph

Dedhed
02-28-2011, 10:15 AM
There are going to be some really nice prospects available at that pick. Particularly on the DL.

If we take a DL at #2 I really like a guy like Martez Wilson at ILB.

SonOfLe-loLang
02-28-2011, 10:18 AM
Paea? Rahim Moore?

spdirty
02-28-2011, 10:19 AM
Paea? Rahim Moore?

You think Paea will fall to 36?

bpc
02-28-2011, 10:20 AM
Front seven, front seven, front seven!

We don't have the resources to but I really like Ponder from fsu, and Leshoure from Illinois.

TheReverend
02-28-2011, 10:24 AM
You think Paea will fall to 36?

Not anymore... he was my favorite for that pick too, but I HIGHLY doubt he'll last that long now.

Chris
02-28-2011, 10:41 AM
Paea isn't doing any other drills. The bench guys usually don't do anything in the NFL. Why does this take him over the top? His knee injury is a big concern. I think he makes it to the second round.

It all depends on who's there.

1. Paea
2. Taylor
3. A. Smith
4. Rudolph

BroncoMan4ever
02-28-2011, 10:44 AM
You think Paea will fall to 36?

i don't think Paea will last til 20

rugbythug
02-28-2011, 10:58 AM
Paea Will fall some, feats of strength. Mean more to fans than scouts. The guy who I am enamored with is marvin austin. I can only hope he falls.

ColoradoDarin
02-28-2011, 11:01 AM
I think Paea drops, and we land him at #36. I hope.

Shananahan
02-28-2011, 11:03 AM
Kyle Rudolph
I've come around to this opinion as well. Sometimes absolute need can take a backseat to talent, and Rudolph is a very good talent who fills a slightly lesser need than DL. Getting a guy like that would help immensely in the redzone. Just look at what Gronkowski started to do for the Pats toward the end of the season. If he's there, we should take him.

enjolras
02-28-2011, 11:04 AM
Are there any solid safeties?

Beantown Bronco
02-28-2011, 11:06 AM
Are there any solid safeties?

There's at least one in FA. None in the draft that seem worth it there.

SpringStein
02-28-2011, 11:11 AM
Are there any solid safeties?

One of the weakest classes for safeties. Next year will be a different story.

cmhargrove
02-28-2011, 11:15 AM
Phil Taylor or Kyle Rudolph would seem to be there.

You could get lucky and have a Cameron Heyward or Liuget fall out of the first, or one of the Offensive Tackles could fall like Carimi or Sherrod. Probably won't happen, but take them if they are there.

oubronco
02-28-2011, 11:18 AM
Dareus at #2 and Taylor at #36

cmhargrove
02-28-2011, 11:19 AM
Are there any solid safeties?

I haven't looked much at the safeties but what about Rahim Moore from UCLA?

Dedhed
02-28-2011, 11:21 AM
Phil Taylor or Kyle Rudolph would seem to be there.

You could get lucky and have a Cameron Heyward or Liuget fall out of the first, or one of the Offensive Tackles could fall like Carimi or Sherrod. Probably won't happen, but take them if they are there.
No chance Liuget is there, I pray Heyward isn't there, because I'm not a fan of his at all.

I love Phil Taylor in that spot, and I think there's a chance he's aroud, buthe's creeping into first round discussions.

RocBronc
02-28-2011, 11:22 AM
Dareus at #2 and Taylor at #36

Ding, Ding, Ding... We have a WINNER!!!

Dedhed
02-28-2011, 11:23 AM
If we take a DL at #2 I really like a guy like Martez Wilson at ILB.

Wilson just ran an unofficial 4.44 at 250 lbs!

Broncoman13
02-28-2011, 11:43 AM
Anybody know anything about Martez Wilson... just blazed his 2nd 40 in the 4.4s as well.

I know nothing about the guy though???

Broncoman13
02-28-2011, 12:01 PM
Wilson looked good in drills too. Von Miller, kind of sloppy.

Akeem Ayers 40 was in the 4.8s. Will that cause him to slip out of the first round? 4.8 for a LB that was said to be fast... can't help!

Bigdawg26
02-28-2011, 12:03 PM
I say a either Taylor, Wilson, or Austin.

illbroncsfn
02-28-2011, 12:21 PM
Anybody know anything about Martez Wilson... just blazed his 2nd 40 in the 4.4s as well.

I know nothing about the guy though???

Yes- quite a bit as a Illini season ticket holder. Just think DJ Williams w/LESS instincts...... I know that is tough to wrap one's head around- but if you find DJ maddening you will absolutely detest 'Tez as a MLB.

'Tez is a phenomenal athlete- actually was supposed to play both LB and WR at Illinois.....just tends to completely lack the instincts/awareness that one would deem to be extremely desireable as MLB>

strafen
02-28-2011, 12:23 PM
Richard Quinn. tight end

GoBroncos DownUnder
02-28-2011, 04:23 PM
Paea is a beast, but (from what I've seen/read) he doesn't have much ability as a pass rusher in the NFL.
IF he's still there in the 2nd round, TAKE HIM! :D

footstepsfrom#27
02-28-2011, 05:05 PM
I don't think Paea lasts to the 2nd round but mayabe Phil Taylor and Marvin Austin do.

meangene
02-28-2011, 05:10 PM
Muhammad Wilkerson.

Williams
02-28-2011, 06:03 PM
i don't think Paea will last til 20

This mock disagrees: http://walterfootball.com/draft2011_2.php

Absolutely love this mock, btw. Bowers, Moore, Paea, and Jacquizz Rodgers in the first 3 rounds. What a haul that would be. Quizz may be my favorite projected mid-rounder in this draft.

StugotsIII
02-28-2011, 06:04 PM
Trade up to get Heyward.

Wes Mantooth
02-28-2011, 06:09 PM
After we trade Orton, we should be able to move up to get Paea

Wes Mantooth
02-28-2011, 06:09 PM
This mock disagrees: http://walterfootball.com/draft2011_2.php

Absolutely love this mock, btw. Bowers, Moore, Paea, and Jacquizz Rodgers in the first 3 rounds. What a haul that would be. Quizz may be my favorite projected mid-rounder in this draft.

And mine too. He is amazing.

HAT
02-28-2011, 06:16 PM
This mock disagrees: http://walterfootball.com/draft2011_2.php

Absolutely love this mock, btw. Bowers, Moore, Paea, and Jacquizz Rodgers in the first 3 rounds. What a haul that would be. Quizz may be my favorite projected mid-rounder in this draft.

There's no way in hell Paea makes it to #46 anymore.....36, maybe.

orange crusher
02-28-2011, 06:42 PM
After we trade Orton, we should be able to move up to get Paea

Not gonna be able to trade Orton before or during the draft unless some miracle happens and they have an cba in place.

Chris
02-28-2011, 06:51 PM
Ding, Ding, Ding... We have a WINNER!!!

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-G6M0OWuhuY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

HooptyHoops
02-28-2011, 06:51 PM
Give me Marvin Austin....that guy has totally impressed me! In fact, I like him better than most of the other DT's in this draft and to get him at #36 would be highway robbery!!

Dedhed
02-28-2011, 07:00 PM
Give me Marvin Austin....that guy has totally impressed me! In fact, I like him better than most of the other DT's in this draft and to get him at #36 would be highway robbery!!

I've never seen a piece of tape on Austin that i liked.

HAT
02-28-2011, 07:11 PM
Here's an intriguing scenario......

Pats are sitting on #17 & 28 in the 1st round as well as the first pick of the 2nd round at #33. And we all know how Belichick loves moving down to acquire 2nd round picks.

How would you guys feel about trading #36 + #46 to NE for #17 + #124 (the 28th pick in round 4) ? Value wise, it's almost spot on with 'the chart'.

I realize Denver needs help all over and having two seconds in a draft like this would be sweet but if they are dead set on front 7 early than I'd rather move up. Otherwise, they might 'settle' on whatever D lineman drops to #36 and then reach on a 3rd round LB at #46 instead of looking at BPA at other positions of need like OL, S, TE, etc.

#17 opens up all kind of possibilities at DL...Jordan, Kerrigan, Clayborn, Ayers, Watt, Liuget, Wilkerson etc. (Bonus: Denver would jump SD & KC at 18 & 21).

Then maybe look at LB in the 3rd (Mathews, Sturdivant, Sheppard, Jones) and BPA anywhere in the 4th.

What say ye?

A) Do you think NE would do it?

B) Would you want to?

Broncoman13
02-28-2011, 07:24 PM
Here's an intriguing scenario......

Pats are sitting on #17 & 28 in the 1st round as well as the first pick of the 2nd round at #33. And we all know how Belichick loves moving down to acquire 2nd round picks.

How would you guys feel about trading #36 + #46 to NE for #17 + #124 (the 28th pick in round 4) ? Value wise, it's almost spot on with 'the chart'.

I realize Denver needs help all over and having two seconds in a draft like this would be sweet but if they are dead set on front 7 early than I'd rather move up. Otherwise, they might 'settle' on whatever D lineman drops to #36 and then reach on a 3rd round LB at #46 instead of looking at BPA at other positions of need like OL, S, TE, etc.

#17 opens up all kind of possibilities at DL...Jordan, Kerrigan, Clayborn, Ayers, Watt, Liuget, Wilkerson etc. (Bonus: Denver would jump SD & KC at 18 & 21).

Then maybe look at LB in the 3rd (Mathews, Sturdivant, Sheppard, Jones) and BPA anywhere in the 4th.

What say ye?

A) Do you think NE would do it?

B) Would you want to?

In most years I would say yes but the amount of talent that looks to be available in the 2nd round would lead me to say no. I think we could end up with a Marvin Austin/Phil Taylor type player at the beginning of the 2nd round and then a Jimmy Smith type at 2b. Not a big enough upgrade in trading up to the mid first.

Tim
02-28-2011, 07:25 PM
allen bailey

BMarsh615
02-28-2011, 07:52 PM
Marvin Austin <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VTEfRNfqaF8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bigdawg26
02-28-2011, 07:56 PM
With the Jets releasing Kris Jenkins that means Phil Taylor won't get past the first round. So I would love to get a playmaker in the front 7 like Von Miller or Marcel Dareus. I think the 36th pick with be Muhummad Wilkerson or Marvin Austin.

Dedhed
02-28-2011, 07:58 PM
Marvin Austin <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VTEfRNfqaF8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Not impressive at all, imo. Gets washed a lot, and ends up on the ground too much. He's not disruptive at all from what I see, and only makes plays that come right to him.

JDB7821
02-28-2011, 08:02 PM
Muhammad Wilkerson.

I just posted that in the Tommie Harris thread, but Wilkerson would fit Fox's scheme really well. Disruptive with a high motor.

~Crash~
02-28-2011, 08:04 PM
Dareus at #2 and Taylor at #36

this:strong:

Dedhed
02-28-2011, 08:06 PM
With the Jets releasing Kris Jenkins that means Phil Taylor won't get past the first round. So I would love to get a playmaker in the front 7 like Von Miller or Marcel Dareus. I think the 36th pick with be Muhummad Wilkerson or Marvin Austin.

wilkerson is a first round lock.

Carmelo15
02-28-2011, 09:37 PM
Here's an intriguing scenario......

Pats are sitting on #17 & 28 in the 1st round as well as the first pick of the 2nd round at #33. And we all know how Belichick loves moving down to acquire 2nd round picks.

How would you guys feel about trading #36 + #46 to NE for #17 + #124 (the 28th pick in round 4) ? Value wise, it's almost spot on with 'the chart'.

I realize Denver needs help all over and having two seconds in a draft like this would be sweet but if they are dead set on front 7 early than I'd rather move up. Otherwise, they might 'settle' on whatever D lineman drops to #36 and then reach on a 3rd round LB at #46 instead of looking at BPA at other positions of need like OL, S, TE, etc.

#17 opens up all kind of possibilities at DL...Jordan, Kerrigan, Clayborn, Ayers, Watt, Liuget, Wilkerson etc. (Bonus: Denver would jump SD & KC at 18 & 21).

Then maybe look at LB in the 3rd (Mathews, Sturdivant, Sheppard, Jones) and BPA anywhere in the 4th.

What say ye?

A) Do you think NE would do it?

B) Would you want to?

I think a better deal for us would be to move up to New England's other 1st round pick (#28), using our 3rd round pick. #36 & #67 for #28 & #92 works perfectly on the chart. We could still get one of the guys you mentioned at #28. But I would like to do it for Phil Taylor at #28, whom I think has no chance of falling to #36. Six consecutive 3-4 defenses draft picks 30-35. If the top NT in the draft is still available there's no way he makes it through all those teams. Don't think Paea makes it through all those teams either.

A Marcel Dareus-Phil Taylor combo gives me a semi so to me it's well worth moving down from 67-92 to get him. That's 652 LBs of beef in the middle, athletic beef! Phil occupies two blockers. You put him between Elvis and Dareus and let the defense choose which of those two NOT to double team and that guy will make a lot of plays in the backfield. The LBs should have the freedom to make plenty of plays behind this line! This is the type of huge DT combo Fox often had in the middle throughout his Carolina tenure.

Then at #46 we could move down to pick up an early 4th rd pick.

Trade #36 & 67 to NE for #28 & #92
Trade #46 to Seattle for #57 and #98

#2 Marcel Dareus UT, Alabama
#28 Phil Taylor NT, Baylor
#57 Bruce Carter SOLB, UNC
#92 Colin McCarthy MLB, Miami
#98 Marcus Gilbert RT, Florida
6th Rd Pick 24 Charles Clay FB, Tulsa
7th Rd Pick 2 Alex Green RB, Hawaii

epicSocialism4tw
02-28-2011, 09:43 PM
I wouldnt be happy with anything less than:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51dWUiief2L.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
02-28-2011, 09:45 PM
I might settle for this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jesse-Ventura-Action-Figure-Football-Coach-Zubaz-/190506925179?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5b18fc7b

HAT
02-28-2011, 10:02 PM
I think a better deal for us would be to move up to New England's other 1st round pick (#28), using our 3rd round pick. #36 & #67 for #28 & #92 works perfectly on the chart. We could still get one of the guys you mentioned at #28. But I would like to do it for Phil Taylor at #28, whom I think has no chance of falling to #36. Six consecutive 3-4 defenses draft picks 30-35. If the top NT in the draft is still available there's no way he makes it through all those teams. Don't think Paea makes it through all those teams either.



That'd be sweet also. Great point about all the 3-4s drafting just before 36. I agree that Taylor & Paea will be gone by 36. One of the DL 'names' may drop but you never know.

I think Beli would probably be more likely to deal 17 though. With the way he values 2nd rounders I'm sure he'd love to be sitting on 28/33/36/46

Carmelo15
02-28-2011, 11:02 PM
That'd be sweet also. Great point about all the 3-4s drafting just before 36. I agree that Taylor & Paea will be gone by 36. One of the DL 'names' may drop but you never know.

I think Beli would probably be more likely to deal 17 though. With the way he values 2nd rounders I'm sure he'd love to be sitting on 28/33/36/46

The only lineman I would be willing to take that deal for would be Corey Liuget. I have him as the 2nd best 4-3 DT in the draft to Marcel Dareus. I think Liuget is better than Fairley. He is an absolute beastDareus' versatile enough to play 4-3 NT with Liuget as the UT. Those two guys would really get after the QB. 36 & 46 would be worth the getting both of the top 2 DT's in the draft in my opinion.

schaaf
02-28-2011, 11:25 PM
I'm hoping for either Martez Wilson, Greg Jones, or Paea

SPORTSWRITER
03-01-2011, 03:49 AM
Anybody know anything about Martez Wilson... just blazed his 2nd 40 in the 4.4s as well.

I know nothing about the guy though???

According to cbssports.com, Wilson has previously had surgery for a herniated disk in his neck after the first game of the 2009 season. Reportedly, he was somewhat of an underachiever until the 2010 season, his junior year at Illinois. Their draft "experts" rate him as a second round pick, but state that "his straight line speed and length could allow him to play middle linebacker in a 3-4 defense." They compare him favorably with Miami's Karlos Dansby.

robbieopperude
03-01-2011, 07:41 AM
I will take a guy like Marvin Austin with our first second round pick and Baldwin out of Pitt (BPA) or Ryan Williams out of V.Tech with our additional 2nd round pick.

Also, I am all for signing Tommie Harris to a one year incentive laden deal or a multi year deal to come play here. That would really help our DT rotation with him in there. Are we going to keep Jamal now?

LonghornBronco
03-02-2011, 09:32 AM
Don't know if he's there at 36 but I would love to get him.

Ryan Kerrigan
Height:6'4"
Weight:267 lbs.
Arm Length:33 3/8 in.
Hand Size:9 1/2 in.
College:Purdue
Conference:Big 10
Position:DE

LonghornBronco
03-02-2011, 09:42 AM
If he drops to us at 36 I'm happy.

Kyle Rudolph


Height:6'6"
Weight:259 lbs.
Arm Length:34 in.
Hand Size:10 3/4 in.
College:Notre Dame (http://www.orangemane.com/combine/players?filterType=college&filterCond=Notre Dame)
Conference:IA Independents (http://www.orangemane.com/combine/players?filterType=conference&filterCond=IA Independents)
Position:TE

JDB7821
03-02-2011, 09:46 AM
Don't know if he's there at 36 but I would love to get him.

Ryan Kerrigan
Height:6'4"
Weight:267 lbs.
Arm Length:33 3/8 in.
Hand Size:9 1/2 in.
College:Purdue
Conference:Big 10
Position:DE

I'm hoping and praying he drops to 27, much less 36. He's the number one guy on my radar for the Falcons. I wouldn't mind moving up for him.

GoBroncos84
03-02-2011, 10:37 AM
With the #36 selection of the 2011 NFL Draft your Denver Broncos select?

Just wanted to spark some conversation about players projected to go in this area, and to more or less educate myself on the prospects...

My board would be in this order: phil taylor, rahim moore,kyle rudolph

Chris
03-02-2011, 10:39 AM
My board would be in this order: phil taylor, rahim moore,kyle rudolph

That's my order too but I'd put Paea in after Taylor.

Dedhed
03-02-2011, 11:00 AM
If he drops to us at 36 I'm happy.

Kyle Rudolph


Height:6'6"
Weight:259 lbs.
Arm Length:34 in.
Hand Size:10 3/4 in.
College:Notre Dame (http://www.orangemane.com/combine/players?filterType=college&filterCond=Notre Dame)
Conference:IA Independents (http://www.orangemane.com/combine/players?filterType=conference&filterCond=IA Independents)
Position:TE

I love Kyle Rudolph, but we can't go offense in round 2 with the defensive talent that will still be on the board there.

Dedhed
03-02-2011, 11:03 AM
My board would be in this order: phil taylor, rahim moore,kyle rudolph

I like that list, but I would add in Martez Wilson and Stephen Paea before I considered offense.

underrated29
03-02-2011, 11:03 AM
are you guys all assuming Muhammed Wilkerson goes in the first? Just curious.

zdoor
03-02-2011, 05:07 PM
Depending on what we do at #2, I'd like MArvin Austin or Paea

Dedhed
03-02-2011, 05:31 PM
are you guys all assuming Muhammed Wilkerson goes in the first? Just curious.

Top 25.

serious hops
03-02-2011, 06:01 PM
The obvious names have been mentioned; Cameron Heyward, Phil Taylor, Marvin Austin. I don't see Paea falling that far. If there isn't a DL there we really want, I'd be interested in Jimmy Smith or preferrably Brandon Harris if one of them is available.

GoBroncos84
03-02-2011, 06:30 PM
I like that list, but I would add in Martez Wilson and Stephen Paea before I considered offense.

Those would be my next two players on the list after Rudolph. I think Quan Sturdivant can be had in the 3rd, and isn't a big drop off from Wilson. Paea would be the DT to target if Taylor is gone, pending a clean bill of health on his knee.

Carmelo15
03-02-2011, 06:30 PM
The obvious names have been mentioned; Cameron Heyward, Phil Taylor, Marvin Austin. I don't see Paea falling that far. If there isn't a DL there we really want, I'd be interested in Jimmy Smith or preferrably Brandon Harris if one of them is available.

Besides Heyward, I like the other 5 you mentioned. However, there are six 3-4 teams drafting directly in front of us at 36. This decreases the chances of Phil Taylor and Cameron Heyward being available at 36, since they're perfect fits for 3-4 schemes. I really like Taylor and feel he can be a great fit for a 4-3 as well. But I'd be shocked if he's available. Paea has a good chance of making it to our pick even after the 45 reps. He's a very nice prospect but the sheer numbers of this defensive line class mean someone has to drop. I'd be elated if Brandon Harris was available at 36. He is the 2nd best CB in this draft in my opinion. I'd be shocked if he's available. Jimmy Smith would be great too and I think he has a decent chance of being available. I would like the pick, but I don't expect him to drop quite that far down.

Chris
03-02-2011, 06:39 PM
Besides Heyward, I like the other 5 you mentioned. However, there are six 3-4 teams drafting directly in front of us at 36. This decreases the chances of Phil Taylor and Cameron Heyward being available at 36, since they're perfect fits for 3-4 schemes. I really like Taylor and feel he can be a great fit for a 4-3 as well. But I'd be shocked if he's available. Paea has a good chance of making it to our pick even after the 45 reps. He's a very nice prospect but the sheer numbers of this defensive line class mean someone has to drop. I'd be elated if Brandon Harris was available at 36. He is the 2nd best CB in this draft in my opinion. I'd be shocked if he's available. Jimmy Smith would be great too and I think he has a decent chance of being available. I would like the pick, but I don't expect him to drop quite that far down.

In short this draft is like a candy store and we're the sugarholic kid that's been without sugar for at least five years.

Carmelo15
03-02-2011, 06:40 PM
One thing that's really gonna help the Broncos get quality players in the 2nd round is that I expect at least 6 QBs to be drafted by the time we pick at 46, and at least 5 before pick 36. I know that seems crazy but this is a fairly deep QB class and if the CBA doesnt get done, QB's will be overdrafted even more than usual. Teams can't go out and get free agents so they will choose to draft one of these guys and there are a LOT of teams that need a QB this offseason. Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert and at least one other QB will go in the first round. Then Ponder, Locker, Mallett and Caepernick have good chances of going top 35. You have two QB needy teams in Buffalo and Cincinnatti picking 34 and 35 respectively. So I will be surprised if those 5 aren't all gone by 36. If not they will certiainly be gone by 46. Picks 37-45 you have teams like Arizona, Tennessee, Washington, Minnesota, and San Francisco. I expect the 6th QB to go somewhere in here.

Perry1977
03-02-2011, 06:55 PM
This Rahim Moore talk is making me sick. He is absolute GARBAGE. Why anyone thinks he's worthy of a high second round, or even a first day, pick is beyond me. Here's a "highlight" video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sFfFdQ-u0



Back to the original topic, my picks in a perfect world:

1) Robert Quinn
2a) Stephen Paea
2b) Greg Jones
3) Greg Little

oubronco
03-02-2011, 07:02 PM
This Rahim Moore talk is making me sick. He is absolute GARBAGE. Why anyone thinks he's worthy of a high second round, or even a first day, pick is beyond me. Here's a "highlight" video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sFfFdQ-u0



Back to the original topic, my picks in a perfect world:

1) Robert Quinn
2a) Stephen Paea
2b) Greg Jones
3) Greg Little

Damn he took horrible angles and can't tackle for shyt and mark my words Quinn will not make it out of the top 15

Perry1977
03-02-2011, 07:09 PM
Damn he took horrible angles and can't tackle for shyt and mark my words Quinn will not make it out of the top 15

Yeah, that's my first 4 picks of the draft....Quinn at 2, Paea at 36 etc.

GoBroncos84
03-02-2011, 08:13 PM
This Rahim Moore talk is making me sick. He is absolute GARBAGE. Why anyone thinks he's worthy of a high second round, or even a first day, pick is beyond me. Here's a "highlight" video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sFfFdQ-u0





180 tackles, 14 INT in 3 years. He's been productive. Has the speed, hips, and fluidity of a cornerback. Great range, ballhawk. Very hard worker. Smart. Instinctive. He isn't stellar in run defense, far from it, but he is the top safety in this class. It's a very weak class, but he is a good player. He creates turnovers, which is what we need.

TheReverend
03-02-2011, 08:55 PM
180 tackles, 14 INT in 3 years. He's been productive. Has the speed, hips, and fluidity of a cornerback. Great range, ballhawk. Very hard worker. Smart. Instinctive. He isn't stellar in run defense, far from it, but he is the top safety in this class. It's a very weak class, but he is a good player. He creates turnovers, which is what we need.

^

Moore should be a very good cover safety in this league. Is he an elite player in every aspect? Definitely not, but the 3 down safety is steadily becoming an extinct dinosaur anyways, so he'll be a valuable player for some NFL team.

BroncoMan4ever
03-02-2011, 09:58 PM
I love Kyle Rudolph, but we can't go offense in round 2 with the defensive talent that will still be on the board there.

i agree. with that in mind I would much rather go after Virgil Green in like the 6th round.

6'5" 240lbs, but can easily add another 10-15lbs

great athlete, good speed, good hands, not a great blocker, but we need a receiving TE.

http://www.silverandbluesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Virgil-Green-650-1.jpg

Carmelo15
03-02-2011, 10:11 PM
180 tackles, 14 INT in 3 years. He's been productive. Has the speed, hips, and fluidity of a cornerback. Great range, ballhawk. Very hard worker. Smart. Instinctive. He isn't stellar in run defense, far from it, but he is the top safety in this class. It's a very weak class, but he is a good player. He creates turnovers, which is what we need.

No thanks. Give me this...

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ecbU_IsFxWk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

One of my favorite targets for #46. There's gonna be much better talent than Moore at #36.

Perry1977
03-03-2011, 12:23 AM
No thanks. Give me this...

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One of my favorite targets for #46. There's gonna be much better talent than Moore at #36.


Damn right dude! If Moore was that terrible against Temple, God help us when Darren McFadden is breaking into the second level...

cutthemdown
03-03-2011, 12:27 AM
Are there any solid safeties?

My boy Raheem Moore from UCLA is a great player. He may be there at that spot.